The document production by USAO Jeff Jensen to Michael Flynn attorney, Sidney Powell, provides an opportunity for me to share a detached research opinion from my ongoing time outside the wire in the center of the swamp.
No matter what open source information is collected; and no matter what evidence congress can assemble; the toxic political environment in DC is the primary driver of DOJ investigative events. It shouldn’t be, but the reality of action reflects an uncomfortable truth. Here’s my opinion on what is happening.
Attorney General Bill Barr is trying to split the baby against two competing narratives.
♦ On one hand there is enough evidence to indict former officials for gross abuses of power, falsifying information to a FISA court (violating fourth amendment protections); manipulating investigative effort for political purposes; weaponizing the intelligence apparatus of the U.S. to target political opposition, and then using their positions to cover-up their corrupt and unlawful conduct.
♦ On the other hand there is a current highly toxic political environment; consisting of elected politicians and a fully vested branch of government; attempting to cloud the reality that corrupt former government officials worked hand-in-glove with deceitful media, which includes agents of Lawfare, who collaborated in the effort.
This leads to current DC officials and people within those remaining institutions saying: “there are delicate balances.”
In my opinion, in an effort to thread this needle -and considering the timing of the 2020 election- Bill Barr is using the document production from Missouri USAO Jeff Jensen as a backdoor method to provide the information he will not/cannot put forth in a press conference, report or series of indictments. This is why Jensen is providing new information to Michael Flynn’s defense attorney Sidney Powell.
The U.S. Attorney General knows Powell will make this information public; therefore Powell becomes a conduit to receive significant amounts of evidence previously hidden by the Special Counsel (Weissmann/Mueller) cover-up operation; the “insurance policy” of sorts. Barr is essentially funneling information through Powell in lieu of a report which would include much of the same evidence.
This is just how all indications align. Occam’s razor.
Much of the released information has no direct bearing on Flynn *IF* there was going to be an alternate use of the evidence.
Bill Barr is splitting the baby.
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More to come….
Solomon’s Conclusion: Barr is not the father of the baby.
NEXT
SO inside. 🙂
I follow Solomon closely but have not seen that conclusion. Link?
…hehe I love the treehouse…
as in King Solomon…not the tick tock intrepid reporter
1 Kings 3:16-28
Omg. Sorry. I’m lame. Got it.
Well, now i must disagree with you, Trygve, No, you are not lame!
xo
Trygve, haha it’s just the view from the weeds. Sometimes we forget to poke our heads up. We’ve all been there often enough.
ecclesiastes.
1 Kings 3:16-28
Oh. I took coppertop’s comment to be a reference to king Solomon – the first to suggest splitting a baby – not to John Solomon
Barr is like all of DC. They think everyone reads the WaPo nyt and CNN. They dont realize the msm is done. No one listens to them and no one believes them. Walter Cronkite and his 40 million viewers are long gone. CNN has under 1 million viewers for its prime time shows. They are irrelevant. They play to NY California and DC. Trump gets it. Its why they cant take him down. Trump manipulates them. Its why they hate him. Some Republicans are waking up to this. Hannity Levin rush talk radio, internet and local news crush the msm. Its what they dont want you to know. Barr is in the bubble. Its how the msm controls the narrative. It only works on DC dwellers. Its why they leak. People outside the bubble are not buying the msm anymore. Barr needs to realize that. Perhaps Sundance can help him with that.
“They think everyone reads the WaPo nyt and CNN.”
Everyone around them does.
And tens of millions of people believe what the Post, the Times, and the on-air/cable MSM put out implicitly. And their belief in the lies will not be easily shaken, Joe Biden could be shown eating a baby and they would refuse to believe and still for for him, because OMB is so BAAAAD with his mean tweets and vulgar names and questioning the experts, he’s Mr. H times ten and only us valiant members of the #Resistance stand between the nation and doom, Doom, DOOM! And that is why the election is going to be tough. Because there are a lot of dumb or intentionally ignorant true believers out there.
Trust me, I know what they’re like, my entire family are rabid NeverTrumpers, and none are stupid, all are very successful people with college degrees from when degrees actually meant something. I know how they think, I know what they read and see. It’s always OMB’s fault, or White Supremacy, or something. Never the actual perps. And in the end the justification for all of the Deep State’s actions always has been and always will be because Orange Man is BAAAAAAAD!
There are many people who are academically smart, professionally shrewd (and maybe “successful”) but completely lacking many “street smarts” or common sense / wisdom. I have witnessed this firsthand after my father taught me how to spot them. He learned it from his dad.
President Trump is street smart besides being well-educated. Snobs who sneer at him simply missed the major part of their education that doesn’t come from a book.
Amen Brother!
AG Kael.
You stumped me with that one…?
I do too, at great expense to my well being. I make a dedicated effort to know what the enemy is up to.
It is seriously painful at times. But I am a Viking and can handle it, even if it causes great pain. I owe it to my family and friends to be able to say what lies are being promulgated on any given day.
Pain doesn’t kill you. It is giving up hope that kills.
Exactly. This is why they can constantly say “Watching CNN now” (cf. those newly released text messages) without as much as blushing and not even realizing how completely out of touch they are,
Truly prefer your explanation. I will agree with your explanation about the disconnectedness of the MSM.
The vested interests in power, the interests that finance MSM remain undeterred in the effort to snuff out POTUS Trump. Barr is part of the Bush and Marco Rubio Bubble and further data points in the dissolution of the power of the DC Masters Bubble is awaited.
Because Barr is calling the baby ugly, not his, and that someone else should take care of it.
Genie,
He chose the role as foster parent. Parents utilize various methods to modify behavior. Lots of undisciplined children to deal with here.
At This Critical Time In Our History This Is NOT The Time For “Half-Measures”.. Anything Less Than Full Accountability Would Be a Travesty.. Barr Has To Get This Right!
Agreed!
He talks a great game, maybe he can become a spot guest on Fox after he is fired.
Barr said he would wrap things up by “the end of summer” Was he referring to indian summer?
Which year?
Wrap things up as in retire at the end of PDJT’s 1st term and leave the battered can for the next guy to takeover kicking??
Barr said he would wrap things up by “the end of summer” Was he referring to indian summer?
Ag Barr – POTUS warned you.
Contained in Sidney Powell’s released document page 11–likely Strozk and Page.
Dated May 18 2017–the day after the FISA is leaked by Wolfe–‘burr and warner’ are named in the text.
“But they’re Senators. And this is their game, their rules. We assume it’s ours, but it’s not.”
Sorry–March 18 was the day after the Wolf FISA leak–May 18 was the day after Mueller was appointed to head Special Counsel.
Russian spy – Fionna
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look at Gaeta – (name above)
running thought -when you re-review from link. (hi future)
I reposted your comment. Hope Sundance sees it.
Why is Rubio only “acting” chairman? Is his role only as obfuscator until a real adult can chair the committee?
“Duck and Run” is a tactic as old as the hills.
Why is FOX propping up the “you must win the popular vote…yadda yadda yadda” narrative? Precisely why everyone should stop watching all cable news. Starve the beast.
Got it. So the institutions are more important than pursuit of true justice.
And the institution is nothing but corruption – yeah, ?, that’s worth saving.
I’m hoping that by “more to come”, Sundance is implying that Barr, by facilitating this increasing drip of information ‘from’ Ms Powell and others, believes that public pressure will mount, and “force” DOJ to act.
Yep sloobid…Barr is a good man but he confused bringing down the institutions with bringing down the country. Ironically he may end up doing both
Agreed. The anarchists are at the gate and silent majority might be joining soon. s/
The institution is corrupt might not worth saving. No justice. No peace.
Without the institution, there is no justice.
We will never give up this country. If evil destroys or ability to be a civil union.
We will crush evil, and America will be another failed government.
The Republic must succeed. The left crossed the line with the bio-weapon.
They are killing us. There is no second chance, either way.
So is there enough of the 100 million Americans who never vote, to push back this tyranny, as the most advanced civilized government in history?
I pray to God every hour, they will come out and vote. We have been here before. The more vile these Marxists get, the more people will vote to end it.
In our history, the American people, have delivered every time, when the devil is at the door.
When we win this election, we can start repairing our incredible country, starting from September 11, 2001. The day evil made it to our doorstep.
The irony is, these delusional sheep will survive, if we win.
If their masters, somehow over run the Republic.
Then they’ll have to deal with us, we don’t do social justice theater.
Is Judge Sullivan in on the deal?
Joe Biden Would Elevate Sullivan To A New “Lofty-Perch” At The Supreme Court For His Complicity In The Cover-Up!
Yep, and “truth is so very precious in wartime that she must always be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies.” Winston Churchill
he is the caught part of the DOJ’s catch22.
Right is right and wrong is wrong
Good vs evil
I do not give a rat’s behind about “delicate balances”
If evil is not stopped, and the right thing is not done this nation will not survive !
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
lewfarge48, ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’
Just goes to show you……….so far, it seems we have very few good men these days. And, those few are working their butts off……………..but, need help.
Yes, no compromises and no rationalizations. Release the documents to Sidney great do it.
Have a press conference as well and so what the press is hostile and the political environment is toxic.
The way I read it the infection has already spread well beyond containment. At this point radical amputation might save the government but it’s doubtful.
The very Constitution is at risk, the republic is at the sake.
This overgrown governmental bureaucracy that we men have created with all its amendments and it’s add-ons and other such nonsense has allowed for corruption and defilement.
It’s really time we get back to the basics that we the people have the power to say what we want our nation to be like.
Wealthy lawyers have taken over our institutions we gotta get them out that’s all it’s too it. They gotta be removed one way or the other.
Powerful lobbyists can’t play in our government for profit anymore that’s gotta stop
No one is motivated to make these changes except the Patriots.
We can’t count on the institution to mend itself Barr is not able to do what needs to be done.
Anyone with half a brain can see that Barr is not capable. He must think the way to preserve the Republic is to save the institutions.
We disagree the current corrupt institutions are killing the Republic.
Sorry for the long post.
Please don’t tell me to go away
barr and durham have to have airtight cases ,but they are also trying to help an innocent man, flynn. the vaunted DOJ/FIB rule of not interferring in an election will be ignored,with an airtight case. imho.
A lot of people believed Mueller was going to deliver too.
not relevant.
Trust the plan.
the plan of the Gospel.
see… that’s really the issue i have with this.
no, Barr DOES NOT need air tight cases. he has provable evidence .. materials and records… texts and testimonies. oathed interviews.
there is no such thing as air tight. you go with what the evidence you have. a grand jury determines if itnis sufficient in the indictment phase.
one has to suspend ALL DISBELIEF that a grand jury would not agree that.a least 60-100 unique crimes and conspiracies to commit criminal acts meets the threholds.
so the question is simply:
what evidence is.he refusing to submit to a grand jury… obviously he would have mountains of it and would include everything that sundance has been able to produce…?
what grand juries have been conducted at all? with 9 prosecutors in the SC durham team does not inspire confidence…at all?
why go on and on about POLITICAL silos? of course there is a political element. it was a effing coup against a president stupid. get over your delicate DC sensibilities…grow some balls…or just fake it until they drop… but constant droning whiney quibble about politics belongs in some first semester political science mashup…the AG of MAIN JUSTICE
IS ULTIMATELY DEALING EXCLUSIVELY WITH POLITICAL ISSUES…ITS WHY YOU HAVE A SPECIAL DAMNED PLACE IN THE SEPARATIONS OF POWER PRINCIPLE SO STATED IN THE CONSTITUTION!!
bill barr:. wake up… eat your Wheaties!! its time to either shit or burn the outhouse down. sitting there navel gazing isn’t impressive.
a lack of action on your part is supporting the coup!
Or is Barr beating Sullivan to death? The longer Sullivan plays game against the DOJ, the greater the pain will be. Maybe it is a dual game of chess. Sidney Powell will not mind beating the dem piñata with whatever gets dumped in her lap.
Yes.
Jensen feeding Powell
AND also
Ratcliffe releases.
Boom and boom!
Obama probably offered Sullivan a lucrative Netflix deal. Sullivan has to be getting paid a lot to risk it all. They lose Flynn and they have lost everything. Whoever is paying him has to be sweating bullets now. They are getting beat by the person they conspired to beat. Quite tasty.
bert, any rebuke to Sullivan are simply pinpricks to a whale. When you own the DC Circuit of Appeals and the Supreme Court—Epstein Roberts—- Sullivan simply chuckles when Sidney Powell refers to the Constitution.
Barr is a complete tool. More examples…
“Justice” Department Fighting to Hide Records of FBI’s Protection of Epstein
https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/news/muckrakers-fight-to-unseal-fbi-files-on-jeffrey-epstein-kept-alive-by-judge/article_1e193d0d-bc84-53a2-83c9-a53209266329.html
No one is mad about this because the media isn’t telling people to be mad about it.
So in other words, Sidney Powell has become the defacto AG.
Go get em, Ms. Powell!!!!
Respectfully disagree, her client is in no different legal place than he was 1 year ago; except her meter is running.
Wrong. He is close to complete exoneration and the DOJ & FBI are being made to look like fools.
How does the media look like fools if the media is controlling the narrative?
No one is mad about this because the media isn’t telling people to be mad about it.
Priority #1 for Trump if re elected is to reign in on the lying media.
Close to exoneration is equal to close to being indicted – in both cases neither are factually true, but both are meaningless.
He could not possibly afford her “meter” for this long battle. My sense (correct me if I’m wrong) is that she’s representing him pro bono. She’s doing this to save America.
I see no reason she should be working for free. Given the amount of fraud involved in his persecution, Flynn should be able to recover legal fees. Sullivan should be held liable for anything past the DOJ dropping the case.
WE THE PEOPLE responded to the call and have been getting the word out to donate to the FLYNN CASE.
Sidney is being taken care of…generously…premium comes to mind.
in reality what she is doing is priceless.
Likewise LTGEN FLYNN is back in black.
we continue to donate because its a direct investment in our own sense of security AND JUSTICE.
https://mikeflynndefensefund.org/
Respectfully disagree, her client’s legal position is now realistically case dismissed, appealed – case dismissed, or pardoned.
Her meter payment due extraction from the justly deserved millions of dollars settlement and deepest apologies from the U.S. Government.
Corrupt google!
I can not seem to get any info now, but I have seen it in the past.
My understanding is she, personally, is working pro bono.
If sundance or any one else can confirm or clarify Please do.
The reason Gen. Flynn is in the same place has nothing to do with Ms Powell – it is totally the fault of all the corruption of the fbi/justice dept and the CORRUPT pos sullivan !
I’m a simple man and this seems very simple to me. There are laws that were codified many years ago. There are people who are charged/responsible for the enforcement of these laws. Therefore, ENFORCE THE LAWS as written/codified as you swore to do. “Delicate balances” have NOTHING to do with law because if it’s good for me, it’s good for thee. To hell with delicate balances!
Exactly, we’re supposed to be thrilled Billy Bagpipes is attempting to save an institution so rife with criminality it had no moral or ethical dilemma attempting a seditious coup of a sitting President. Occam my bum.
And anything less than full enforcement of the law leads to a country that is not America.
Another old mutt agrees with you!
My sense is that what “delicate balances” means is this: The DOJ/FBI is so infested with deep state traitors, that it is DIFFICULT to get staff to carry out orders from Trump/Barr/Durham. The patriots in the department don’t know the identities of all these traitors, especially at the lower levels where the worker bees sit, and some of them “pretend” to be patriots. By analogy, Trump’s recent order to IMMEDIATELY halt ALL “critical race theory” training is being ignored, as reported by whistleblowers who offered proof that the trainings are continuing in defiance of Trump. Once they indict a big name, the low-level traitors will be activated. If not handled “delicately”, one deep-state traitor could FLUB an entire prosecution. These cases must be air tight. Just my humble opinion FWIW.
We have to remember that 96% of Washington DC voters did not vote for President Trump. Almost everybody who lives in Washington DC works for the government in someway or other. They want to protect their paycheck, their union, their friends, their way of life. The President will leave in four or eight years, preferably four, so what do they care? But in this Presidency they are much more likely to be obstructionists, if not out right hostile and destructive to having the truth come out.
here again is the issue.
bill bart has the exclusive power to prosecute a case. this power, enormous in scope and magnitude ALSO allows him to hand pick prosecutors who will perform.
its a sick and twisted circus act for him or anyone else to presume he does not have powerful immediate options to step outside of the rank and file and select a race horse.
Barr is telling you the truth… listen. believe him.
he is gutless to his own true power.
there is no question he is not the correct professional for this job.
he has given you every single excuse WHY he isn’t able to perform his job.
once…just once…i would like someone… anyone to ask him this very simple question..
its one of my very favorite questions…my old boss a two star would ask this question in executive meetings when confronting an officer who offers only excuses:
so you’ve told me all of the reasons why this is not possible.
NOW I WANT YOU TO GIVE ME FIVE REASONS WHY IT IS POSSIBLE!??
invariably… results are achieved.
i loved the old man…he had a keen sense of
making what ought to be
what is
I had a boss that would ask this after a screw up: Are you stupid or is it that you just don’t care? I think President Trump should ask Barr this question: Are you too stupid to recognize the criminality or do you just not care about people breaking the law?
Sundance, if you are correct, this borders on brilliant. I must admit to feeling a twinge of excitement…..
I think this is the correct way to feel about it.
Barr’s Hillsdale College speech was quite good.
He’s a good speaker and comes across as calm and confident despite all of the bullshit from the enemy desperate to save their asses.
Powell spoke there too.
Powell spoke there too.
Either former officials broke the law or they didn’t. The idea Barr needs to protect institutions and route information thru Powell bypassing media is nonsense.
Either bureaucracy can create false narratives to try an impeach a president or they are held accountable.
Truth is not a hard thing. Accepting it is the measure.
spot on
I hate to be so negative, but I also think Durham and Barr will do nothing. It will be up to General Flynn to file in civil court armed with this information. Hopefully, he will recoup some of the money he lost- but it will never be justice. I honestly don’t know what further evidence Barr or Durham would need to press charges. This abuse of the FISA court has gone on long enough. I won’t be happy until they actually disband it, because obviously, nobody will be punished for abusing it (unless they are Republicans).
Boy, Robert Barnes has been off lately. Is there an imposter posting?
Durham has NOT been around more than 3 years!
First there was Jeff Sessions, then Huber. Jez. And Rosenstein.
“In May 2019, Attorney General William Barr tapped Connecticut’s U.S. Attorney John Durham to look into issues related to the origins of the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation.”
16 months.
Durham is mentioned in texts going as far back as April 2017. It’s not clear yet in what context he was involved.
False – Durham was assigned by Sessions to investigate Comey’s leaks in AprilMay of 2017. Durham has been around the block multiple times, with no results save for a lackey.
And the lackey, Clinesmith, wasn’t even an indictment by Durham and company. It was a criminal Information with no grand jury, where he reportedly came forward voluntarily.
oh lets not forget
before unkleenwordsmith, durhams crack team of 9, NINE, prosecutors took down some jackwagon who made shiftyface nervous on social media.
so he’s got that one notch in his rifle stock.
and rumor has it, they also took down 3 jaywalkers who completely ignored the crossing lights and spit some gum on the street.
they are doing the best they can… truly.
/s
Perot, Tell me about any indictments. AND the get out of jail free Clinesmith Sham does not count.
I would rephrase this thinking …..
Based on Sundance’s thoughts – and many pointed articles, it appears Barr and Durham are addressing these crimes via Civil Litigation.
1) sundance pointed out the Carter Page Litigation about a week ago.
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/page-fisa-litigation
2) sundance is now pointing out the feeding to Flynn’s litigator
does Civil litigation bring money only? enough crippling money to purchase new MEDIA EMPIRES?
Barr knows – the uniparty and the media ARE MORE POWERFUL than the doj (demonstrated by their ability to INCITE VIOLENCE)
the MEDIA is the enemy of the people. They are the most powerful entity in this World.
I agree with you that civil litigation is an avenue, but it is a very long and protracted legal battle and not really justice. Even General Flynn would need to file against several litigants and that will cost a lot of money, especially if the cases are split.
Plus, Carter Page is probably CIA, so I doubt he will actually file anything. I think he will just continue to speak in his highly trained “word salad” on tv until we forget about him.
i agree it sucks!
what other way can we go after a SWAMP. no DOJ, no FBI, no Legislative, No Judicial
and this way AG Barr can say “it wasnt me” and keep his HEAD ON HIS SHOULDERS when the swamp killers come.
FISC was established by the legislature, the House and the Senate, a separate arm of the gubmint. The legislature writes the laws regarding FISC, and only Congress can change those.
What would you like Barr/Durham to do?
You are correct, there are no actual checks and balances on the FISC except the FISC judges themselves, and Judge Roberts. But in a normal court, if the judge discovers that an attorney has falsified evidence and manufactured false charges, not only will they get an earful in front of the court, but they will probably be disbarred. What repercussions have the FBI suffered? Sensitivity training? No repercussions means no proper checks and balances and it is still ripe for abuse. Barr should be openly acknowledging these legal loopholes and be openly hostile to Wray and his protective stance of the FBI. Barr has many times stated how he hopes to protect the agencies.
arrest them for insider trading.
Check + balance + mate
you are on the correct track.
of course the spy powers are used corruptly for other even more powerful egfects, but exposing the money game IS the best strategy to draw attention to it and motivate citizens to care about spy powers even of they do not blink about the privacy and 4th issues and violations.
everyone hates a scafflow.
keep it up whiteboard… this will work.
dig deep.
I’ll be posting more about this subject in near future.
timing.
note…there is a reason why the SARS leaks happened recently…start looking there.. banks are very nervous about the fincen gate becoming a thing.
media isn’t covering it…
that is no mystery why.
Durham has been specifically tasked with the “Russian Hoax” investigations since April 2019. so 17 months/ If Barnes is referencing how long he has been a USA then it is a lot longer than that.
Barr is a feckless, useless AG, no better than his predecessors.
His inaction emboldens the next wave of criminality within the Department. The latest document production merely reaffirms there’s nothing within that institution worth saving.
He ended Mueller, right?
Brought in Durham?
Fired Jessie Lui?
Firing Liu after she allowed the Awan brothers to skate, along with Wolfe too, are you serious? We should congratulate Barr for firing the person who let the horse out of the barn then watched while the horse ran away as she burned down the barn? Surely you jest.
Ending Mueller AFTER he covered up the biggest crime of country is the same as above – Mueller accomplished the mission, the cover up was completed and no one was prosecuted. Again, you want to celebrate that?
Brining in Durham has resulted in what exactly – the lowest lackey on the least of charges. Did you mock Obama for celebrating mediocrity too?
Barr is weaseling his way out of a job he asked for while allowing the greatest crime against this country to go unpunished – where do you want the fireworks delivered to?
Yes end??? What exactly has Durham done? Wake me up when Comey et all are in cuffs until then it is pure political theater.
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Yankee, AND Wray is certainly an undeniable appendage of Barr.
Or … he wouldn’t have to release these if Judge Sullivan did his job and fully exonerated General Flynn. His hand is forced.
I think Judge Sullivan wants POTUS to lose. If General Flynn is exonerated, the whole Russia fiasco is officially exposed. And the odds of PT winning go up.
Will we see Indictments the next few weeks?
Like many have said, if POTUS loses, it all gets buried.
Putting selected info out there to a conduit only enforces the concept that Barr will do nothing knowing full well that we the people know what happened. Totally fubar. I can’t believe PDJT is okay with this.
Ultimately, Solomon never *actually* cut the baby in half, as the story goes. The true mother was willing to give up her child to save it. After recognizing her willingness to preserve the child’s life, the child was returned to her.
In that respect, if Barr wishes to save the institutions that are the FBI/DOJ, he *must* give up ALL of the participants of the coup to Justice. He cannot continue to play this halfway, with backhanded leaks to a court case that is about to be closed. Because that day is coming, Flynn’s case will end, and all the court submitted evidence goes … where? Did it make it into an IG report, a disciplinary report, a military court? Or will the 2016-2017 coup be lost to history?
Great Biblical points and questions.
As for this new evidence, it is in the public record for all to see.
As for a “report”, it is in the form of pleadings written for the record by Sidney Powell.
As for the redactions, I suspect there is a very good reason for them at this time.
There is no delicate balance. Like the political silo, this is some concept Barr has invented to protect his friends. His thinking is that of an imaginative white collar defense attorney. That’s not his job. He’ll be gone in six weeks. Hopefully then the fun starts.
The fun starts whin the prevailing bureaucracy no longer has the power to dictate what is acceptable for documnent requests the public makes.
My take is that Barr can’t expose and prosecute everything that happened without “compromising” the “sources & methods” utilized by our intelligence agencies (Brennan) and doing that would be crossing a veritable political Rubicon which he would prefer not to cross if he could help it.
Barr’s problem is he will accomplish NOTHING unless he makes that crossing.
If Barr can’t make this decision, he needs to tell the president and let himself be replaced by a man who will.
Clivus- i think its more pathetic than that.
Obama ordered it.
Only problem with that is the Sources and Methods were crafted by Brennan out of thin air.
PDJT will not tolerate that as an acceptable excuse not to act. Barr will be gone faster then a fart in the wind if he uses that logic.
Sources and methods are the bumper and airbag designed to protect the vehicle occupant. Allowing the occupant to die in order to maintain the integrity of the bumper and the airbag is inverted value; they exist precisely for the benefit of the occupant. When a crash occurs, they are the expendables.
To protect S&M while the presidency (as an institution) is lost and the rule of law is destroyed, well, that’s so absurd that a 1st grader wouldn’t need an explanation. But, there are plenty of adults who do.
I think a lot of the sources and methods are known and, if our national security rests on them, then our enemies are laughing. The only thing delicate is that if the 90% that believe the 90% corrupt media find out the extent of their brainwashing there might be hurt feelings.
I think the major problem both Barr and PDJT recognize along with the terrible damage the complete package would do to both parties in the US. is the revealing of the complicity of all the “Five Eyes” nations’ intelligence in the attempt to affect a valid US election. As the old saying goes ” with friends like these……”
screech…be clear here..
there is a means to protect comsec techniques and STILL prosecute a case
this isn’t novel…in scale, yes, its a real beauty, but lets stop pretending to give DOJ MORE excuses that do not exist.
COUNTLESS cases of prosecution by main justice involving criminal abuse and corruption wrt classmat over many decades…those courts NEVER had a problem shielding sensitive material.
there is NOTHING holding Barr back except
fear!
he’s a coward and not qualified.
he lacks guts and a spine.
i know some people here might get offended…but an attorney general in main justice should be in fighting shape condition…the job demands a incredibly high tempo.
look at Barr.
what do you see?
this guy could not walk DOWN three flights of stairs without blowing a gaket…
its the same kind of common Sense observation made with RBG…you got to a 14 year old for brain surgery? repair your space rocket? nor would you expect an 87 year old abulatory to write decisions that effect every single 235 million americans!!
with Barr and fatties like him…you cannot possiblly expect this lard ass to carry the ball for the entire game…
but that is exactly what it takes.
and that is exactly how the competition is running away with the ball
look at Flynn… this guy likely does a 10 k before most of us reach for the box of chocolate corn puffs.
yes it matters…age, fitness, discipline
we are NOT ALL EQUAL.
and that really is a big problem with INSTITUTIONAL operators.
they talk a mean game.
Sidney shouldn’t wait; she should blow all her fuses and take the matter up with SCOTUS Friday afternoon, assuming that Sullivan stays true to form and continues to drag this out.
Do you really want to risk a 4-4 court by rushing or is it wise to wait for confirmation of the new appointment.
What is the reasoning behind:
“…has no direct bearing on Flynn *IF* there was going to be an alternate use of the evidence.”
and does it make the inverse true?:
…DOES HAVE direct bearing on Flynn IF there was NOT going to be an alternate use of the evidence.
I don’t understand what either statement really means. Is this deductive logic or an expression of instincts to be interpreted loosely?
means 2 birds 1 stone – and doenst affect Flynn litigation
– just isnt convinced their is another use of it Currently going on.
But can anyone explain WHY the quoted statement is factually or legally true? I get the general gist of the article, but the “*IF*” statement seems like its being used as a main logical support for the argument without anything to support it.
Why can’t it have both direct bearing AND additional use? Sundance usually has a set of supporting proof to demonstrate assertions like this.
i’m assuming it doesnt cross any other lanes of litigation. as if this is really tight, and the techniques observed are demonstrating this?
im just pulling this out of the air –
its the OPPOSITE of saying this RELEASE screws Flynn getting justice.
I stumbled on that one, too.
Sullivan has been ordered to dismiss, so I don’t know how he can’t. More evidence apparently means nothing, as the evidence in existence proves the same thing that this new evidence does. What’s more straw on the camel if the camel is down with a broken back? I guess in that sense, it has no bearing on Flynn’s outcome–the outcome being foreordained by now for dismissal.
Maybe it’s the direct vs. indirect bearing…as in, the evidence will course through Sullivan’s court, into the public domain, and the firestorm will cause a breakthrough in snapping the resistance in half, sending numerous rats scurrying for replacements to their fraudulently obtained, void insurance policies.
The en blanc panel by taking on the mandamus dismissed the 2-1 Appeals Court ruling so technically “Sully” has not been ordered to dismiss the case. It is in limbo until action on the motion to dismiss is taken.
correct… thanks for that.
its been long and dogged road to navigate.
its great that you set a map ” you are here” to remind.
from my perch powell does not have to wait to file another WOM. if sullivan has not placed this on schedule or on a timely manner, it would ve wise to hammer another WOM demanding he do just that.
given there is NO CHARGE HERE AT ALL…there are no legal or even imaginary reasons to delay a decision to rule on dismissal motion.
the argument must be that any further delays by sullivan amount to a depravation of civil rights AND that he continues to operate under a DPA by THIS COURTS INACTION.
At this point…max pressure on this judge to rule.
its time for another WOM.
At least get the DC appeals court attention and make it newsworthy.
make them say they don’t care about flynns innocence and liberty.
in trying to split the baby, Solomon Barr is killing this baby and aborting the entire country.
does he really not understand what is at stake here? have the left not explicated it to him in graphic detail every day?
short of pre-election wholesale indictments, the MSM will simply not even cover any of this, and will run, unabated, to scam the election
50-100 people need to be indicted within the next week or two. otherwise, you are inching closer to civil war, Barr.
If this Barr theory is true, then Barr is acting. The “how” may not be bold and direct, but the “what” could be net-net effective against the resistance and beneficial for the current administration.
Effective, in that it goes right to the heart of the bad actors and their crimes.
Beneficial, in that it allows Barr to preside over non-partisan professionals just doing their daily jobs, turning over leaves, and sending their findings to aggrieved parties. Oh, and the findings just happen to be blockbusters that incriminate the former administration and exonerate the present one.
Quite interesting juxtaposition, wouldn’t you say, Watson?
The Conservative Media, their paid Familiars, and interviewed pedestrians off the street are contouring themselves every way to Sunday about Mr. Barr’s intestinal fortitude. Welcome to my world.
Listen, I’ve backed Mr. Barr and Mr. Dunham from beginning and I wouldn’t think of backing off now. But this thing, as far as the concerned public knows, is as best I can estimate 30%-35% revealed. My hope is the trust we’ve placed in President Trump’s administration is rewarded tenfold.
I’ll be the first to acknowledge we’re still a long ways from full transparency. But I have to admit today restored a lot of faith.
why would this restore your faith?
more proof was brought out that 100 deep state operatives should have been indicted 3 years ago already.
none have been yet
the country is on the brink of a constitutional crisis not seen since 1860, wide-spread violence and civil war.
if todays revelations are not followed by indictments, Barr will be judged in history as a Falstaffian farcical figure
junior –
Calm down.
100 might be a slight exaggeration.
Three years would have been prior to Mr. Barr’s nomination and confirmation.
I’m aware we’re all not playing nice w/ each other but it’s also not the end times as described in Revelations.
‘If’ is a big word.
*why don’t we sit and watch a spell and see where we’re at in two weeks
Sundance, imho, is saying…..nope….wrong terminology……I interpret Sundance’s posting as saying AG Barr is going to “decline to prosecute” regardless of what Attorney Durham wants/does/indicts. And he is using Attorney Jenson to filter info to Powell to make it look like Barr is doing something when in reality he does not give a rat’s ass about LTG Flynn. He just wants to preserve the institution(s). Sad.
If so, AG Barr will be judged harsher than just an “average” guy.
“Saving” the institutions means absolutely nothing if the public winds up with no confidence in them. And we’re mostly already there.
There’s no splitting hairs if doing little more undermines it in half the population, and doing enough to satisfy that half, would undermine it in the minds of the other half (indictments etc).
Exactly.
I’ve said from the beginning Barr’s putting all the heavy lifting on Sidney Powell, attempting to retract the abusive prosecution while protecting the institution.
Barr is hiding behind explanations buried in process and arcane legalese (no “predicate investigation” therefore the lie could not have been “material” …), leaving it to Sidney Powell to make the arguments. Sidney Powell is merely stating what is now obvious — but Barr’s Justice Department will not call a spade a spade and that leaves the opening for corrupt operatives to claim it is all political.
What Barr’s doing IS political. He is not being a straight shooter on what Rosenstein’s/Mueller’s prosecutors did. Dissembling makes people suspicious. He’s bringing all of this on with his weakness.
Delicate balances? My checkbook is delicately balanced. Does that mean I get a free pass if I need to skip paying my income taxes to maintain that balance?
Why, yes. I believe that’s exactly what it means. (Let us know how that works out)
Of course, that’s not the way real life works, but their habit of talking about delicate balances instead of lawful and unlawful, right and wrong – – – is what they impose on everyone else while they call it public service.
Not Barr. Trump is calling these shots.
Thank you Sundance et al. They already know Trump is going to win. Releasing more through Flynn case does appear to be slow walking, however there is so much more they have, and your efforts have helped them know, that WE KNOW WHAT THEY DID!!!
So you’re unhappy either way?
It appears the task at hand is forcing Judge Sullivan’s liberal young clerks to accept the exoneration. Or even Sullivan. Next hearing within a week.
These releases could also help seal plea deals, and educate the public.
Crime is contagious. If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.
– Justice Brandeis, Olimstead v. United States 277 U.S. 438 (1928)
Barr is accelerating the contempt by his inaction. Congrats Billy, you burned the DOJ into the ground. The Anarchists and Marxists give you and your department the finger, nightly.
They already know Trump will will. It’s been agreed to. Barr will show everything after America wins.
Respectfully disagree with your projection, but am open to facts.
“Barr will show everything after America wins.”
And you know this how?
Tik Tok.
maybe a woman should replace Barr.
With high cheekbones, blond hair and from Texas?
my criteria only lists a lawyer with a spine and a few ounces of raw courage.
sidney is far too qualified!!
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I think it was the same with the Hillary email scandal. If they had prosecuted Hillary…..they would have been forced to prosecute perhaps hundreds of top level people in the Obama Adm…..all the way up to Obama.
They did not see this as any possibility. Therefore, they let it drop.
There could be a third way to address it.
The truth.
That the corruption was so bad it was entrenched in our institutions so deeply it would be impossible to prosecute everyone without disrupting government, in general. That some prosecutions might be needed because they were direct, leadership, or just too severe. Others could be reprimands and minor punishments. However, what was more important was reform to be sure corruption was rooted out and enough oversight to prevent it from ever reaching this level again.
I think this is the MOST sensible and realistic comment I have read here today
That’s the key point…indictments of DC swamp creatures would always circle back to ensnare the investigators and/or justice officials with the oversight.
We need outsiders, like PDJT, to pour into leadership positions throughout DC to root this out. We all know that’s not likely to happen any time soon, if ever.
disrupting government.
hmm.. lemme see now.
4 years of non stop.disruption to the presidency.
pandemic that so called government takes to mean suspend the durham investigation.
millions spent trying anything they can think of to throw at trump AND the people around him. for years non stop
these were crimes… conspiracies to coup a democratically elected president.
they suspended any other efforts.
maybe it would be okay to staff a real SC prosecutor with more than nine attorneys and begin arresting some folks… raids at o dark hundred for real criminals who are getting fat checks writing books and. speaking. events.. and relaxing in retirement.
imagine if a military Commander was explaining why the enemy would cause his troops some snooze time.
main JUSTICE mission is primary security and protections of THE LAW.
IT EXISTS PRECISELY TO COMBAT against these kind of crimes. there is nothing… nothing more deadly than abusing spy powers to take down a president.
if DOJ believes fighting back and arresting suspects would disrupt “government”..,these people do not understand the job…
all this is doing is giving the corruptors freespace to do it again.
and they will.
you can take that to the Bank!
Barr is a fool and a coward.
I think this is Barr’s shot across Sullivan’s bow. Judge Sullivan will recognize the case cannot be delayed another month. Every further delay will cause more dibs and drabs to come out before the election. If Judge Sullivan were to try to delay another month, he cannot be sure the dribs and drabs will become a floodgate.Like a defendant offered “community service” for a guilty plea, Judge Sullivan would do well to take the offer.` I wouldn’t be surprised if this case was dispatched, quietly, Friday night.
Sullivan has SCOTUS Chief Justice Roberts to protect his back.
This might just be correct. Obviously, the targeting of Flynn did not stop, ever. First Strzock’s buddy Contreras gets assigned the case, then when Contreras gets recused, Sullivan magically gets the case. Just like Amy Berman Jackson magically gets all the other politically motivated cases. There are no coincidences.
What are the chances Zebley and Van Grack and others were equally careless with texts or emails about judicial assignments? Like, “no need to worry that Contreras is gone, we will get Sullivan assigned? ”
The next set of releases, if they were that, would be the equivalent of Hiroshima in DC. Judicial fixing, if undeniable – that was be beyond anything else to date. It’s a good guess that is a small part of what was on those wiped SCO phones.
Except, nothing is ever truly wiped. Agent of a foreign power? Igor Danchenko – known Russian spy – connects to Steele, known UK spy — and then it is a real quick two hops to anyone from Mary McCord to Fiona Hill to Peter Strzock to get to the whole SCO.
FISA goes both ways, and the NSA has it all.
Time for Sullivan to fold his hand.
Perhaps what Barr would really like is for the coup members to get together, draw straws and pick a handful of people who will come negotiate with him for Clinesmith type deals. That way, the worst stuff can be kept out of the public eye, and a delicate balance can be struck between institutional damage and the appearance of equal justice under the law.
Leaking what he has is a hint for them to expedite the process. The longer they wait, the more serious stuff gets leaked. Cut your deal now while the worst stuff can still be swept under the rug.
The only difference of course is that Solomon was able to achieve Justice and return the baby to the rightful mother. Barr plans on really, splitting the baby!
Split all the babies you want, but I want to see Brennan’s head on a pike:
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/09/24/secret_report_how_cias_brennan_overruled_dissenting_analysts_who_thought_russia_favored_hillary_125315.html
Color me just plain stupid but I do believe this is significant.
I know all Barr and Durham haters are out there and that team is not moving fast enough for some.
But THEY are on the Front Lines and KNOW the Enemy within better than I do.
So, I take my cues from POTUS, he was ecstatic tonight when Scavino gave him the go ahead with the latest info.
Well, from a stupid person’s point of view, since I’m taking my cues from the one guy I know for SURE that he knows EVERYTHING:
For now, I’m satisfied and will continue to wait for more to come.
Because this is not over yet.
And don’t we all know that eventually everything will be revealed, prolly much sooner than later?
I think it’s genius that Sidney Powell is the conduit.
Well said Abigail from a fellow stupid person. ?
Damn we better stay together; gets lonely sometimes!
I will echo what DelightedDeplorable wrote.
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Abigail I agree.
I also think it’s plausible that PDJT is ok with no indictments until after the election, as long as Sidney/Flynn are fed Information from Jensen and Barr aligns to Ratcliffe releases.
After the election, I would think Bagpipes is on a very very short leash and MUST ACT or he will here the famous Trump line – “You’re Fired!”
Hear (duh!)
You have to think of the swamp in DC as very wide. It has a lot of adherents and the morality of the entire city compares favorably to ancient Sodom and Gomorrah. The sheer number of participants and outright corruption being dealt with is massive. PDJT himself has said he was surprised by the size of it. I think all of the truth-seeking political animals knew politicos tended towards corruption but few expected the extent to which it has been revealed to exist. The corrupted bureaucracy only strengthens my argument against term limiting Congress. It only further empowers the “shadow government.”
Where does the narrative stand in Barr’s queue that high ranking officials of the FBI, DOJ and CIA tried to frame the President of the United States for a crime that not only he didn’t commit but a crime that never even happened? How long would it have taken for AG Holder to investigate, indict and convict White Law Enforcement officers who attempted to frame a newly elected President Obama for a crime that never even happened??? Answer: About 20 minutes!
What about the latest “bombshell” . . . that Durham is supposedly now investigating the investigators of the Clinton Crime Foundation? What do we make of that . . . and how does that relate to everything else that’s going on?
Does investigating the investigators mean that only the investigators are under scrutiny . . . or does it mean that the Clinton Crime Foundation is being looked at again?
And finally . . . why are all these questions still necessary? If there were indictments and traitors behind bars . . . we wouldn’t have to ask them.
The crooks running the FBI and CIA essentially waged an undeclared Civil War against the USA. They ARE the enemy.
They committed these acts of sabotage and espionage in plain clothes not uniforms, therefore they should receive the penalty that George Washington dealt to spies.
Suits and ties, actually. It’s all business… strictly By The Book ‘n all that…
Barr may be splitting the baby in another way. All of this Brady material is evidence of a malicious prosecution and violations of General Flynn’s civil rights under 42 USC 1983. Barr and Durham may not prosecute Comey et al criminally, but they may be setting Sydney up to bankrupt everyone of the bastards through civil litigation. And a 1983 civil action requires only a preponderance of the evidence, not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
I would be pretty okay with Sydney emptying their bank accounts. And most of these assholes don’t live in DC. For example, McCabe lives in Virginia. So the jury pool is going to be much more favorable.
That’s not good enough for me. Go fund me will adequately provide the miscreants money to cover their costs. It’s not enough to keep them from participating in future democrat administrations. I want a felony on their records.
One last time …..
It doesn’t matter how damning the evidence is. There will be no indictments from Barr & Durham. High level Republican leaders were involved in the coup attempt to remove Trump. They knew about it and gave their blessing to take him down. Barr was installed by the Senate to cover up the mess and ensure no indictments. Because if anyone is indicted, they sing and the whole mess comes out. It probably makes Barr sick to his stomach. He knows what really happened. But he will complete his mission. No indictments of ANYONE. It’s over. Stop beating a dead horse and thinking it’s going to run.
You have to beat it, or you submit to tyranny!
America is too dysfunctional for there not to be closure. You may be right that there will not be indictments but there will be violence if this is left unresolved.
I happen to think there is no way that Peter Strzok, John Brennan, James Comey are not indicted
FBI will be shuttered. I am not a lawyer but I could defend a bad guy from a FISA warrant. Lawyers will welcome this form of surveillance. FBI will lose court cases
So why allow/facilitate this release of information if continued cover up is the goal? I’m not saying you’re wrong at all, but, like Sundance, I immediately asked myself today, why is BB allowing more and more of the cat to escape the bag?
Because communists love to demoralize you.
Every day, a bit more of the fraud, sedition… seeps into the public consciousness. I really don’t expect this mess to play out in court .. I expect a news conference in which PDJT really nukes some major institutions. I just can’t figure out how he is going nail congress and stop the corruption there.
He can halve and quarter for all I care. I see the whole baby, and I want that baby indicted!
How can we file an ethics complaint against Judge Sullivan? Adam Schiff as well
It seems to me that the only way to convince the people of the sanctity of these institutions is to prosecute those who abuse them.
Anything else is a dodge.
So…Just like mob rule in leftist states dictates that justice will not be done, Lawfare “mob” rule in DC will also dictate that justice will be torn asunder. If this is true, and I believe it is, America is on her deathbed.begging for a brave and honest man to cut out the Obama cancer and save her…instead, we put cowards in charge, and they are ignoring her plea.
America has always been called an “experiment”, because she’s novel and in constant need of loving maintenance to continue. It appears that our complacency has allowed the Grand Experiment to come to an ignoble end. Is there no one left to breath life into her? I fear not.
Declassifying under the guise of the Brady rule. Smart.
Can’t be called a political leak.
“Attorney General Bill Barr is trying to split the baby against two competing narratives.”
If so, then Barr is a very craven man.
Barr wants to save the institutions, yet those within them that he seems to be shielding, are still bent on destroying them. Quite a spot to be in.