The minute order filed by Judge Emmet Sullivan outlines a protracted time-frame for the next sequence of events in the case against Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn:
As noted in the order, Sullivan is now telling the DOJ and Flynn defense to file a joint status report outlining their “recommendation for further proceedings” by September 21, 2020. From there a briefing schedule which will require both parties to respond to Sullivan’s personal amicus (Gleeson), and additionally respond jointly to any other amicus not ordered by the court. Lastly, Sullivan is requesting three dates for oral arguments.
In essence, despite his ability to quickly convene the parties to settle all matters before the court; which includes the unopposed motion by the DOJ and defense to drop the case; Sullivan intends to drag this case out as long as possible and use the amicus as a tool forcing responses from both parties (DOJ and Flynn). So much for the “quick dispatch” outlined within the DC Circuit opinion, this case is going on for several more months.
I heard he’s compromised because of his son. Holding something over his head. Could be b.s. you know how those rumors can go.
From an article in Conservative Cardinal earlier this year:
“The lead prosecutor in the Flynn case threatened to prosecute Flynn’s son if Flynn refused to sign a confession. The prosecution was part of the Muller team. Flynn’s son was also to be charged with conspiring to act as the agent of a foreign agent.”
Ref. https://www.conservativecardinal.com/michael-flynn-exonerated-guilty-plea-coerced-with-threats-against-his-son/
I don’t know how much of a threat (if any at all) remains now since the DOJ has dropped the case against General Flynn. I really don’t think it is a concern any longer.
GB, above comment likely referring to Judge Sullivan accepting favors to help get Sullivan’s son out of jail for sexual assault or rape. Not about Flynn’s son.
Ok. Sole use of pronouns without initially naming the subject gets some of us confused as to whom the poster is referring.
Charges were filed against his son & disappeared in the system. The Thirteen year old who nearly succumbed to the sexual battery is now old enough to press charges, and she is enraged.
Also some issue about a palatial property of Flynn’s on a Carribian Island.
Another rumor is that E. Cummings and the Judge pulled off an insurance scam, the good Judge may have covertly stored some art that Cummings made an Insurance Claim on.
Also a story about redirecting money from a black college to themselves, stating that it would be wasted on the students anyway. ( I read this from someone who claimed to have worked closely with Cummings.)
Corrupt people serving in positions of power never seem to get caught. It is maddening. Maybe Cummings is paying the price now.
Nuts!
FYI I also keep notes
#EmmetSullivan2Paedophile
—Sullivan links to Elijah Cummings + Rod Rosenstein —-
https://twitter.com/Johnheretohelp/status/1261480070683688967
https://girlonfireca.com/index.php/2020/05/17/judge-emmet-sullivan-corrupt-monster-sickening-saturday/
https://www.dagnyintel.com/post/16-may-2020-judge-sullivan-exposed
https://www.howard.edu/secretary/convocations/charterday/2003/
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/441468-federal-judge-rejects-trump-request-to-dismiss-democrats-emoluments
June/July 2015 Operation Broken Heart II
https://twitter.com/sheva_ben/status/1264507816376582147
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1261480070683688967.html
Zorrorides: A perfectly functioning system of corruption.
I bookmarked this thread about the judge and his son several months ago but have no way of knowing if any of it’s true. It’s quite an eye opener:
https://twitter.com/Johnheretohelp/status/1261480070683688967
You have to click on the tweet and not “John” to get the thread, otherwise you get the most recent tweets
Someone needs to break this crap open.
Where’s that bus? We have another candidate.
The powers that be
That force us to live like we do
Bring me to my knees
When I see what they’ve done to you
But I’ll die as I stand here today
Knowing that deep in my heart
They’ll fall to ruin one day
For making us part
Let’s hope Sidney can finally help Flynn break free of Sullivan’s “chain gang”.
If Sidneys’ got an inside contact who can spring free some more of those FBI-improperly-withheld exculpatory documents, she oughtta ring that bell again, real soon
Where’s the 302?
😉
nimrodman: I don’t think anything else released will make a bit of difference. What has been released shows Flynn was set up and framed. Sullivan owes debts, and he has to pay.
Scott: We should encourage the good researchers to look into judge Sullivan’s history to either confirm or deny these rumors. His connection to Elijah Cummings needs to be explored.
Appeal to Scotus. About all that’s left now.
File for Cert and alternatively file an original writ of Mandamus in S.Ct- extremely rare.That will get emergency expedited attention. S.Ct. could kick(require refiling of mandamous) back to DC appeals court.
looseends: This is like a game of Legal Jeopardy. The finer points of the law don’t interest me or probably most people. We see right and wrong and expect the judiciary to do right. This is not right.
We don’t care about the point the appellant court makes that the writ of mandamus was filed before Sullivan ruled. Now he is going to do just what we knew he would, have his little trial within a hearing.
I don’t know who Sullivan trying. Is it Flynn, possibly for treason? Is it the doj for the motion to dismiss? Is he trying to attribute sinister motives to the doj for trying to put one over on the most high and all powerful Sullivan?
The classified information released shows Flynn was set up and framed. What else do you need to know? What else does this little tyrant Sullivan need to do but dismiss the case?
SCOTUS will not take this. The en banc panel focused on the one weak area in Sidney’s appeal – whether the mandamus petition was premature because Sullivan had only issued an order, and hadn’t had the actual hearing.
There is a concept of “ripeness” that the Court considers when it reviews a cert petition. There are two aspects to its review:
1) Does the case present important legal issues justifying the Court’s participation; and
2) Is this the right point in the proceedings to do it?
The en banc panel agreed with #1, but disagreed with the panel on #2. SCOTUS would likely go along with en banc. It gets thousands of cert petitions a year (most by prisoners with time on their hands), but only take about 80.
I am not about to second guess a superb lawyer like Sidney, but she had the options of going for mandamus immediately and risking a rejection because mandamus was premature, and waiting to see what happened at he 7/16 hearing. No doubt she discussed the pros and cons with Flynn.
Sullivan is no doubt gloating over his success and vindictive because the appeal challenged his impartiality as a judge. He is going to litigate this past the election, and if, God forbid Biden wins, Trump would have no choice but to pardon an innocent man.
I hope that the DOJ drops more embaressing Brady material in the meantime. One thing that did come up at the oral argument was Sullivan’s attorney’s statement that the judge was not going to have any evidentiary hearings. I assume this means he isn’t going to haul in DOJ attorneys and ask them in public about any interference by the White House, but I wouldn’t trust Sullivan’s attorney any more than I’d trust him.
I also hope that Sidney has read through the 17,000 pages of Covington & Burling’s “overlooked file material, and is ready to file a fat malpractice suit.
Shipwreckedcrew at Red State (a former prosecutor) had this suggestion for Flynn and the DOJ:
“My view is that Gen. Flynn’s counsel and DOJ should take the position that they are the only two parties, and file a Joint Status Conference for just the two of them — not including amicus counsel.
Amicus counsel was named by the Court to assist the Court. Amicus counsel is not a “shadow” party. Gen. Flynn and DOJ should force the Court to enter Orders directed to amicus counsel in a way that isolates Judge Gleeson as a non-party, or force Judge Sullivan to treat him as a de facto party rather than simply an advisor to the Court.
Further, they should file the Joint Status Report tomorrow, not 3 weeks from now. The Joint Status Report should take the position that briefing is complete, no sur-replies are needed and incorporate all the briefs filed in the Circuit Court. Judge Sullivan can’t claim he needs additional time to review them — he responded to them in the Circuit Court. The briefing in the Circuit Court should also be deemed the Partys’ response to non-Court appointed amicus counsel who have filed briefs.
With regard to the hearing, the Joint Status Report should explicitly state that neither PARTY intends to present evidence outside the written record already made — hell the Joint Status Report could take the position that no hearing is needed and the motion should be resolved on the written submissions.
The Report should force Judge Sullivan to himself state that he intends to conduct an evidentiary hearing – or to concede that he does not intend to do so. Yesterday’s opinion called attention to the fact that Judge Sullivan’s counsel during oral argument stated that no evidentiary hearing was planned, and that weighed against the Government’s argument of irreparable harm based on the potential that Judge Sullivan would invade the province of DOJ’s decision-making process by seeking to examine government witnesses under oath. The Parties should force Judge Sullivan to commit that to the record, or advise them of his intentions to the contrary now. As for the hearing date, the Parties should offer September 22, 23, and 24.
This would FORCE Judge Sullivan to slow-walk this case, if that is his intention, for the sole benefit of himself and amicus counsel, which would seem to go against the admonishment by the Circuit Court that he act ‘with dispatch.'”
Indeed. “With dispatch.”
Shippwreckedcrew is under the delusion that the law matters to corrupted abd/or blackmailed judges.
The yer honors have no honor.
Wethal thanks for posting this.
The link to the original article is HERE:https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/09/01/judge-sullivan-playing-games-with-calendaring-new-proceedings-in-general-flynn-case/
Seems like this strategy is a pretty good one at this point.
Wilkinson “rope-a-doped” the panel (Wall’s words) by suddenly contending that all Sullivan wanted to do was have a simple little chin-wag with the DOJ before ruling— rumors of an extended investigation by the Amicus being overblown.
The majority opinion has ASSUMED this posture.
Since the Circuit didn’t define “appropriate dispatch” force Sullivan to reveal what he thinks it means.
The law is like money (paper money or coins made of non-precious metals): both law and money are only valuable because people choose to give them value. This is hyper-true in the modern world, wherein law is no longer divinely inspired (except, ironically, in backward Muslim lands re: the Sharia law). There’s no divine sanction to law. People create it, enforce it or manipulate it, all without worry that God will take vengeance on anyone debasing the law. So, what are we left with? Debase a coinage — which used to mean ceasing to use precious metals in coins — and people won’t value it. Why should they? Same with the law. But these judges don’t seem to comprehend this reality, or they’re unconcerned about it.
I’m sure almost all of us have had dealings with “the law” in the sense of courts, lawsuits, criminal counts, whatever, and we all know that so much depends on how much money you have — you, personally. If you can afford better (or the best) legal representation, you need to get it. If you can’t, you’ll lose. That in itself debases the law, obviously. “Rich man’s law, poor man’s conviction.” But when you add on to that what we’re seeing here, whew, well, “the law” will be as meaningless as togas or buggy whips. Yet the scariest thing about it is that significant numbers of the judges, lawyers, prosecutors don’t see what’s coming.
Sidney told Dobbs last night that they were considering doing so. Unfortunately, having observed Roberts’ votes on the big cases, I would expect him to join his fellow statists to uphold the eight statists on the appellate court.
Well what did you think he was going to do? DOJ should just abandon the case. Nobody can touch Flynn. The President can make sure that
I wouldn’t have expected anything less from Sullivan.
starcker: I like it. The doj just doesn’t show up for Sullivan’s next circus act. Paraphrased Andrew Jackson quote, the court has made its decision, now let them enforce it.
I believe it is time to grant and accept a pardon. Gen. Flynn’s voice is needed now.
…or at the very least
the 302
https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/status/1300970129476460545
This action is despicable!
This judge should be removed and disbarred!
Is it time to march on his home and have hot dogs and s’mores on his front lawn?
The New Abnormal and all…
“removed and disbarred”……hmmm something “unfortunate” should definitely befall this Judge…… OK we’ll call it “removed and disbarred”
So McCarthy is saying D.C. appeals court is abusing their power as well.
That’s why obama stacked the DC Circuit Appeals Court! Abuse of power is what leftist activist Judges do, how they make new law without legislation! These are sycophants of obama and the deep state running the Federal Judicial system!
This seems more than abuse. Seems like predetermined outcomes
That abuse was clear in the ruling.
They are now claiming that THEY called for the re-hearing SUA SPONTE.
Even though they did not say this when they granted it.
” the District Judge made a filing in this Court entitled “Petition for Rehearing En Banc,” to which Petitioner and the Government each filed a response. An active member of the Court also made a sua sponte suggestion that the case be reheard en banc” (p.4)
This was to correct a glaring problem:
If Sullivan requests the rehearing he becomes a party and therefore can no longer be impartial.
Henderson covers this in rebuttal:
“When WE grant a rehearing, WE SAY SO.”
They DID NOT say it was THEM until NOW.
and continues
“That my colleagues can find no instance in which a trial judge to whom a writ of mandamus is directed asserts authority to appeal that writ is all that need be said to demonstrate how far afield from the appearance of impartiality he has moved. Would the majority give the same yawn if I petitioned the United States Supreme Court for certiorari review of its opinion herein? Of course not.”(p.29)
Kinda wish Judge Henderson would do it.
That would be a hoot.
Thank you for writing this
So could your point be brought to light via a civil action based on sua sponte ruling?
There are SO many routes to appeal this on judicial and procedural errors before even getting to any civil actions. The majority opinion portends many of them.
Shipwreckedcrew put together a great strategy to further box Sullivan in.
https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/09/01/judge-sullivan-playing-games-with-calendaring-new-proceedings-in-general-flynn-case/
Wethal has an interesting brief above that seems to close a lot of the delay options for Sullivan. My lack of knowledge in this field prevents me from knowing if there are any other delay tactics available to Sullivan. These guys are like trying to hold sand, the harder you squeeze, the faster it runs through your hand
Let us hope.
How does this stand?
Where is redress?
How is this racist poor excuse for a judge getting away with this?
Oh yes, I forgot DC is a cesspool!!
O did so much damage that is only now is being fully revealed. His handlers must have been powerful and worked overtime because IMO, he did not have the IQ for all the subterfuge.
DOJ give Flynn his passport and business back, then turn on email out of office autoreply.
He’s a bought and paid for tool of the deep state. He’s following his orders.
THAT is very clear.
I honestly don’t see how General Flynn can be properly made “whole” after this entire ordeal. He has to sue the DOJ/FBI for malicious prosecution and I’m wondering how he can punish the judicial system as well for not resolving this in an expeditious manner. There must be some sort of legal recourse for them dragging this out on purpose (mind you I’m thinking death by a thousand cuts for Judge Sullivan). How can any judge see this ordeal and think this is ok. Hang your heads in shame and do something about this!
Carrie: There is no recourse against the abuse of judicial power. The judiciary is supposed to police itself, but they don’t. The house can impeach a judge, but it only happens if a crime has been committed. I doubt the house as it is presently constituted would even do that if it was one of their leftist judges. Are you understanding now just
what the leftist have accomplished? It’s a sad state of affairs.
Sullivan is dragging this case out until after the election.
Where is Barr? What is he doing? Can’t he control the thug judges?
You are either a troll, or you flunked 5th grade civics. AG William Barr is in the Executive Branch. Judge Emmit Sullivan is in the Judicial Branch.
No Attorney General controls any judges. Separate branches of government.
There are others on this thread asking the same question. But go ahead and continue your insults and make a lot more enemies.
Outside of the lowest rung third world country, how does a relatively minor outlaw judge have so much power? He treats the whole judicial system like it’s his own personal play thing.
He was empowered by the entire DC circus court of appeals to do so.
And the DC Court of Appeals is now Sullivan’s partner in crime.
I think it’s time for Sydney Powell and Michael Flynn and the DOJ to just ignore the judge. What could he do then?
He’d sentence Flynn. The guilty plea is still on the record. And he’d add in additional time for contempt of court for failing to show up for the sentencing hearing.
Charge them all with contempt….and that’s just a start.
Just go ahead and charge them with conspiracy. There is a path that they have all shared to end up in the same place on this “matter”.
There must be some communications.
That comment deserves 100 “likes”.
We are seeing how they can screw you 6 ways to Sunday. And there’s not a $@$% thing you can do about it.
The corrupt judiciary could easily overthrow this Republic.
“Could”?
There do exist people with the skills to end Sullivan.
But there are no people who can undo the evil that lives in some hearts.
Our power resides in only in execution, not judgement.
Should we kill evil in an act of judgement?
Perhaps in an act of survival?
Right and wrong, legal/extralegal.
State sanctioned justice.
Or vigilante justice if tyranny and injustice describes the State?
Ms Sydney Powell is good. But what if the evil she fights retains the upper hand and is allowed to prevail?
Flynn should have sold fentanyl. A coerced plea. He would have been out years ago with the fentanyl.
I think Sullivan is trying to force Trump’s hand and get him to pardon Flynn.
For if he does all of the legal rights he has to sue all of these many clowns which he would have if he won his case would disappear.
This decision by the Circuit court allowing Sullivan to drag this out could be just that banal and vicious; they are protecting their friends.
“Protecting their friends,” seems clear to me as well. “Wingman” Holder, and President Planethealer would be obvious to my assessment.
Will send another contribution to the Michael T. Flynn Legal Defense Fund c/o Barbara Redgate, Trustee (his sister). P.O. Box 711533, San Diego, CA 92171. Look it up.
He deserves our help and our prayers.
It’s up to the honorable General Flynn how he wants to proceed. Does he want Trump to deny him a clear name? A pardon does that. Flynn is innocent and deserves to sue the prior legal representation for millions of dollars + the Fed gov’t who framed him.
It would be wonderful if we could have Flynn serve again sooner than later to help us right some wrongs. But it’s unfair to ask Flynn to make another sacrifice for what has become such a terrible nation. A pardon is a scar. It denies Flynn real justice. What does the man himself want?
A pardon moots Flynn from acting within government in the future.
What if Powell and the DOJ just ignore this? Don’t even file anything more in this freak’s “court”. Can they legally do that, and if so, could it hurt Flynn more than he’s already been hurt?
Sidney and Barr: “What was that noise? You say Judge Sullivan made some squeaky little sounds about something? Weird guy, that Sullivan.”
Or better yet:
Since the DC Appeals court has not protected the separation of powers and allowed Sully to continue and be a partial participant (ie DCA allowed him standing in the En Banc appeal), prosecutor and judge, Barr should convene his own Court and dismiss the case.
This will no doubt cause a Constitutional crisis but so what. That’s all we’ve had since Trump was elected, one Constitutional crisis after another. Better yet, this might get the SC to act and make this go away in order to protect their domain.
Disclaimer: I’m no attorney and I didn’t play one on TV. All of the above is wishful thinking provided it gets resolved in the good General’s favor.
We’ve had a constitutional crisis since 1871.
OK…I am in…what the heck! I may convene my own court in my back yard…and the sauirrels can be…the convicted. The Blue Jay, Robin and Cardinel can be the jury.
I’ve got the Blue Jay judge and jury. I’ve been bribing them every day with raw peanuts. Like the DC mob, they will do what I say.
And they are loud!
I believe that was always the plan. Drag it out until the Biden is President. And then prosecute Flynn.
Flynn will be pardoned either way
Ha, no. Should Biden “win” (which could only happen through fraud) and be DECLARED the winner by our wonderful media, that would be it. Game over. All the “cold anger” we’ve stored up would be released, would go HOT… instantly! So by the time Biden was supposed to be taking office in January, this country would be unrecognizable. The LAST thing on anyone’s mind, including Mike Flynn’s himself, would be his prosecution.
Jello333,
You are pretty much correct. However, with all of the things that the Democrats have recently tried (and failed with) regarding their fraud-laced mail-in-ballot schemes, I believe that the Democrats are aiming for the following scenario, where they:
1. Prepare for a Trump landslide
2. Prepare to manufacture enough “lost” mail-in ballots after the election to tip it
From there, they will challenge the results of the election and try to keep it tied up in courts.
This has every appearance that they’re worried about what General Flynn will spill once he’s finally unencumbered by the system of injustice.
They’re using this basket-case of a judge to do their dirty work for them, and intend to keep General Flynn hamstrung for as long as can be orchestrated.
Who has the most to lose once this patriot is free of the albatross?
General Flynn has already spilled the beans to President Trump. This is only about chain of custody announcements, IMHO.
Who gives a crap? Just release the dogs!
The sad thing is we’ve come to expect this. It’s everywhere you look. There isn’t one government institution we can count on to do the right thing. There’s nowhere to turn for justice. The magnitude of the corruption is breathtaking.
Our options are severely limited.
The Democrats deliberately went down this path / it is no accident:
Podesta Emails – Wikileaks
“And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging. “*
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599
However, thanks to sites like CTH, the unawareness (as well as the compliance) is fading fast. We have come a long way since 2016, but we are not home yet.
Quotes like that one from the pedo podesta email are exactly why Donald John Trump is currently President of the United States of America.
And will be for four and a half more years. Term Two will be EPIC.
Hang Sullivan. It is pitchfork time.
Can General Flynn bring a civil suit against Sullivan and his entire court? Some MOAB number like $250MM
Judicial immunity.
Sullivan became an adversary i thought that might change his status
Truly, with the judicial branch exercising the tenants of lawfare, the legislative branch intimidation tactics utilizing the intelligence committee, and executive agencies selling out to the highest bidders, is it any wonder we’re here at all?
I am getting to the point that the only way I can be assured that the above three-pronged attack on the citizenry of these United States will cease, is for those branches to agree to a one-time suspension of the presidential election to allow Donald J Trump his rightfully earned, fairly won, utterly trespassed-upon first term from 2020 – 2024, with a resounding re-election for the 2024 – 2028 term most viable.
The history books can treat 2016 – 2020 as a time period when a very successful businessman volunteered to manage the country while it was in receivership due to unrelenting attacks on its status as a REPUBLIC. Here, now, for all to see in vivid color, that those who kept calling our country a democracy were all in for mob rule . . .
Nice of you to write out my thoughts like that Debra! Excellent comment… 😉
What happens if the left fails to steal the election and POTUS gets 4 more years? Then… what?
Then they burn down America. Its what they Bragg about doing. Sick and evil, is what they are. Lesser people trying to blackmail a President is what it amounts to.
If Trump wins, Sullivan drags it out, but he has to issue a ruling on the motion to withdraw and motion to dismiss prosecution sometime, and then Sidney has a timely appeal as of right.
On appeal, the DOJ and Sidney will be on the same side, and Sullivan can’t be a party at this time, because he is not personally involved (or shouldn’t be).
One reason Sullivan called in Gleeson and allowed other amici is because he can’t think of any legal grounds for denying the motions. There are none, and he’s lazy and stupid as well.
Sullivan is hoping someone will come up with something, but the withholding of critical Brady material is such an obvious violation of Flynn’s constitutional rights, so Sullivan has to find away around the Brady violation.
Time to file criminal charges against Sullivan.
1. Dereliction of judgeship
2. Practicing US Constitutional law with illegal license (from Banana Republic).
There’s probably a few more I can think of but I’m totally disgusted with this guy.
No one is above the law, right?
Show me how this guy is.
SOB Commie Obamination bootlicker.
How bout this: Bill Barr gets off his fat ass and fires Van Grack, then charges him with malicious prosecution. For starters.
I mean, if there was still the Rule of Law in this country.
No, keep Van Grack on and march him into the courtroom to sit there as the DOJ attorney details how Van Grack violated Flynn’s Brady rights.
I assume little Brandon has been kept on to squeeze him for every drop of information of Russiagate he has. As long as he’s employed, he probably can’t take the Fifth.
The DOJ also has to review every criminal case Van Grack handled to see if there are Brady violations in them, too.
Exactly. Thumbs up!
I’m convinced there is more intelligence and knowledge right here at CTH than there has ever been in DC, beginning but not ending with Sundance.
I award five stars to all of you because even if the law is not your expertise, common sense and patriotism IS! Bravo!
He was ordered to proceed with dispatch. This is not proceeding with dispatch, and Powell now needs to go back to the Appeals Court and tell them sullivan is defying their order and they need to take urgent action to protect the court’s prerogatives.
Good one.
This is where I think Sydney goes first. This forces the Appeals Court to address the Judge. The judge who is now making a mockery of other judges sitting on the Appeals Court.
These are fickle people who are very full of themselves. They won’t like Sullivan now making them look like fools. They could have him removed due to contempt….
Flynn would have taken a pardon along time ago.
Holding off on a pardon is to protect the President and the presidency. Legally speaking a pardon does not foreclose jobs, or lawsuits,and if anything would remove seals or gag orders.
Flynn would rather exonerate himself, but his reputation will always be damaged anyway. His dismissal would be just as controversial as a pardon in a lawsuit. In fact a pardon cleanses everything.
I would go to S.C. If they don’t play, I would pardon Flynn before the election. I would not allow Flynn to go before Sullivan again. He may be running out the clock. Or he could hold him in civil contempt. The President should not recognize Sullivan as a lawful authority.
Heartbreaking, but I don’t want Trump to pardon, I want Flynn to be a free man and back in government. God bless both he, and Powell.
Sad to say, but this is going to drag out until election day, and if God forbid, Biden wins, until Inauguration Day. Trump could pardon Flynn that morning. Clinton pardoned fugitive fraudster Marc Rich (on recommendation of DOJ attorney Eric Holder, and after a generous “contribution” to the Clinton Foundation byt Rich’s wife), practically on the way out the door to Bush’s swearing in.
I don’t think Trump should pardon Flynn at this point. There is still time for more Brady material to drop, including the stuff that was being held back because it’s involved in the Durhan investigation.
Sidney has her sources at the DOJ (remember the detailed Brady request – names, dates, emails, etc.), and she is working on the same side as the DOJ in this.
President Trump will still be President in 2021.
Go ahead and sue the previous attorneys at Covington & Burling right now. Let the screaming begin immediately. It is abundantly clear that they engaged in legal malpractice. There is evidence in papers that have already been filed in this case. Couldn’t treble damages be anticipated? The longer this drags out, the greater the damages (legal bills). Let the (D) lawfare swamp creatures get angry with Barack Hussein Obama for giving the order to drag this out as long as possible.
Eric Holder raised money for gerrymandering. Apparently, Alex Soros was a funder. The Wingman is a partner in the firm. Distract him and bring down his compensation.
Rip up Covington & Burling’s reputation. Let prospective clients see that they might not be able to trust the firm to properly represent them. Draw blood.
Yes
Not just draw blood but make that first wound so deep that they never truly recover from it. You know the wound you have to constantly pay attention to because it will never stop bleeding and it hurts.
When DJT wins his landslide re-election victory, and possibly an opening appears on SCOTUS (from the leftist faction) Sullivan will see the writing on the wall. He will take a week of vacation.
While on vacation in a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the USA, Sullivan will email his resignation to the court.
End of case. Flynn exonerated, free, and ready to talk frankly.
ReglarMerican says: “When DJT wins his landslide re-election victory, and possibly an opening appears on SCOTUS (from the leftist faction) Sullivan will see the writing on the wall. He will take a week of vacation.
While on vacation in a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the USA, Sullivan will email his resignation to the court. End of case. Flynn exonerated, free, and ready to talk frankly.”
Nice bit of fan fiction, but it’s not going to go down like that.
Judge Sullivan hasn’t done anything illegal (at least not “illegal enough” to get called on it. “Highly irregular” isn’t illegal), so at worst he will retire and live with a nice juicy pension – a Globalist “soldier” that did his part for the Deep State. Retired with honors.
Someone, somewhere, might wag a finger and demand “reform” (which, we know what that means).
Sidney has 90 days for file for cert (which I doubt she’d get, but she can try). So she can wait until after the September scheduling to see what Sullivan is up to, and whether it gives her more evidence of Sullivan’s mishandling of this case before she files.
Then there would be 30 days for a reply, or a letter from the DOJ of no contest. SCOTUS starts oral arguments the first week in October, and usually has a “long conference” the week before in which it reviews the cert petitions that came in over the summer. It might not reach Sidney’s filing then (assuming she filed right away), but could hold it and schedule it for re-conferencing. SCOTUS can rule on cert when it’s ready to. (It is, after all, the SUPREME Court.)
The original panel had the mandamus issue right the first time. Now Sullivan violates the court’s mandate. Ripeness has two parts: The case and controversy clause, the core, which is not involved here, and judicial abstention, an elastic judicial policy doctrine that can be relaxed or waived by the court. A pick ‘n choose doctrine. There isn’t enough time to get exonerated through Sullivan. The S. Ct will at least have to respond to an emergency writ. So they deny it.
SIdney can go for a regular cert petition or an emergency writ, but i doubt that SCOTUS would grant an emergency writ.
Who would make that decision to grant or deny an emergency writ? Would that be Chief Justice Roberts since this case would arise from the DC Circuit?
I don’t know how these things work. I don’t know much about lots of things.
My guess is that Roberts would want to find a scholarly excuse to avoid touching this case. However, IIRC the appeal hung on their recent and unanimous Fokker decision. RBG wrote that decision and might uphold it via the Flynn case if Flynn can make it into SCOTUS in a timely manner.
This entire episode makes me sick to my stomach. Flynn was mis-represented by his 1st legal team who advised him to plead guilty- twice. We know the facts. Now it seems we are in a situation that has less to do with justice and more about legal process. Pure mental and egocentric , self centered mental masturbation by Sullivan
The DC court needs to be flipped. Trump train rolls on.
A new Trump appointee took to the bench today. He was confirmed as a replacement for one of the judges on the en banc who was moving to senior status or retiring. That’s why this all took place before September 1 – one less Trump judge.
One thing Cocaine Mitch has been doing is keeping that judicial confirmation train chugging along. I think he’s flipped the First and Third Circuits, and brought the Ninth Circus almost into balance. Others are moving towards flipping.
Harry Reid created more judgeships on the DC Circuit, and Obama filled them, so it is hard to flip hte DC Circuit when the Obama judges are still too young to retire.
So, if dispatch is not honored, can Sidney repetition this court?
One hates to bring up even more painful memories of Sullivan’s behavior, but IIRC, he also wanted briefing on whether he should hold Flynn in contempt for lying under oath when Flynn twice affirmed in court that he lied to the FBI..
The S.O.B. could also grant the motion to withdraw the plea, and motion to dismiss the prosecution, and still throw Flynn in the slammer for a while for contempt.
Sidney could immiediately appeal and ask for a stay of Sullivan’s order, but it’s something Sullivan (or his Lawfare puppetmasters) may also consider.
Wethal twenty years ago you didn’t think the S. Ct. would take cert in Bush v.Gore, either.
Tell me true?
A good time to remember that if Barr were doing what he’s supposed to, all of this would be moot and Flynn would be fully vindicated.
Barr’s DOJ deserves no credit for trying to thread the needle while dropping the case. DOJ presented a basis for withdrawal that’s a bunch of legalese. Barr opted to protect the institution rather than hold criminal actors accountable and spell out what actually happened.
These developments are beyond maddening. But these dirty judges wouldn’t have even had the chance to drag things out if Barr had presented the evidence, called out the dirty investigators/prosecutors, and left no room for doubt.
This is on Barr.
And it’s a harbinger of things to come, if Barr continues with mealy mouthed half measures.
And he will.
Great comments btw.
They need to file a joint recusal motion for prejudice.
Dear Judge Sullivan, the US Dept of Justice will participate more further in your political theater until you issue a ruling in the May 2020 motion to dismiss. Love, DOJ
^no further
Okay, I’ve had it. I’m done. Sorry. Every day, every single f’ing day I wait, patiently or otherwise, while I read/watch CTH, TGP, FOX (Tucker- screw Sean), OAN, and twitter accounts of Last Refuge, Tom Fitton, Catherine Herridge, ETC!!!!!! NOTHING F*CKING CHANGES!!!! EVER!!! F*CK IT!!!!!
Barr?!!!! F U B A R
I’ll be there when the shooting starts. Trust me. I’m ready. And it will start. Until then, f this.
General Flynn is one of Pelosi’s “Enemies of the State”.
Wait until you see what awaits Donald Trump, if he loses the election.
At least you don’t get served poison tea, like in Putin’s Russia. Coming soon?
FTA: ‘So much for the “quick dispatch” outlined within the DC Circuit opinion, this case is going on for several more months.‘
IIRC, it was “appropriate dispatch”.
Which, when I read it, I knew it meant, “Take as long as the lawfare string-pullers instruct you to” – because that would be defined as “appropriate” to them. (I even wrote a post stating that, but ended up cancelling it because it seemed obvious).
Not surprised in the least. Lefty’s / Deep State / Globalists are all about redefining language to both suit their purpose, and allow others to infer other meanings.
The “after election” angle is only important because it delays justice to Flynn.
There is zero evidence that Flynn being freed before the election will make any other difference. Trump doesn’t need Flynn for the election.
What’s left to unsaid is the danger Flynn is in. No matter what happens in November, Flynn should get pardoned. I could be wrong but Sullivan still has the guilty plea. That’s a problem. The only reason why Sullivan is doing what he’s doing is to rule on that plea in my opinion. If Sullivan does that, Flynn is going to jail.
Again, legal people correct me if this scenario is not possible. Even if not likely, the process to get Flynn out of jeopardy will drag on for months which frankly is a fraud on the American people going to the polls. It’s similar to the Durham investigation going beyond the election. It’s a fraud if Durham doesn’t produce before November. The voter goes to the booth not knowing that Flynn was framed and that the Special Counsel was the insurance policy to hamper Trump’s administration.
If Trump doesn’t win and the Dems manage to distract him by drawing out the vote count due to mail in voting and the ensuing legal battle, Flynn and Durham will be buried!
Trump will win but I’m dismayed that the American people have been defrauded and this Trump is being denied a greater victory in November.
dufrst says: “What’s left to unsaid is the danger Flynn is in. No matter what happens in November, Flynn should get pardoned. I could be wrong but Sullivan still has the guilty plea. That’s a problem. The only reason why Sullivan is doing what he’s doing is to rule on that plea in my opinion. If Sullivan does that, Flynn is going to jail.”
One thing that has been a point of confusion for me is that potential pardon.
Can he be pardoned when he hasn’t yet been judged guilty (if Sullivan still has the guilty plea that implies Flynn hasn’t yet been found guilty).
Can one be pardoned when not yet judged guilty?
That’s been on my mind…
There is something called a blanket pardon. Ford used it for Nixon who was never charged with any crime.
Mortimer says: “There is something called a blanket pardon. Ford used it for Nixon who was never charged with any crime.”
Interesting.
Sounds like that would fit the bill.
Thanks!
If Trump loses … Flynn gets pardoned before he leaves office.
If Trump wins, no pardon is likely to be needed. Just some time.
Good point about fraud on the American people in advance of an election.
And lest we think it couldn’t happen, well it did in 2018. We now know (and SD had meticulously documented) that the ruse was up for Mueller by early 2018 but Rosenstein allowed it to continue, while cautioning the President that if he over-ruled his minions on declassifying information it would be construed as obstruction of justice.
As far as I’m concerned, Barr is already in the Rosenstein category, ie, “prudent” to the point of complicity and now a participant.
I had SO hoped it wouldn’t come to this. But there’s no valid justification for letting his Justice Department persecute General Flynn to hide the sins of current and past colleagues.
Barr is now one of them.
Stop playing f’cking games. If Flynn has something he can reveal, but this persecution prevents it, then f*cking pardon him and let him reveal it. You have 62 days. That’s it. Barr IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAILURE. Just as he was assigned to be. Barr is a FRAUD. If you don’t drop a bomb, or 10, so as to prevent this mail-in fraud that EVERYONE SEES COMING, then why should we f*cking care? USE YOUR POWER. DO SOMETHING.
Who says Flynn has something he can reveal that would affect the election?
I see a ton of people whose imagination makes that claim, but nothing of substance to go on.
Flynn had no idea what they were doing to HIMSELF ….much less what they were doing top Trump.
You may be right. I don’t know. That’s why I said “If”. But I hear/read it all the time. That;s why they’re continuing it past the election. I’m sure you hear/read the same. Thus, IF true, then F*CKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!
Sorry to all for my all caps demeanor tonight. I’m just tired of it.
and why do I have to fill out email, name, and website EVERY SINGLE TIME I decide to post?!!!!
Not to worry. I share your frustration. I just think people panicking over this going beyond the election …. are imagining much of that importance.
Flynn deserves justice. And fast. End of story.
SWG, I had to do that, too, sign in every time to post. Then I discovered some symbols near the top of the “enter name”. I think there’s a google or Facebook. But then there’s a big W for WordPress. When I clicked that W, WordPress let me sign in and stay signed in – for real.
I posted that solution some time ago for people who were having trouble signing in. Guess I should have continued to post it occasionally.
Flynn knows all the secret side deal sin the Iran agreement. He was also going to audit the intelligence agencies. He probably has conveyed the side deals informaiton to Trump through backchannels.
It’s the audit and re-roganiztion the deep state feared, so they took away Flynn’s authority to do them.
None of that will affect this election.
Plus, if Flynn had anything explosive and has told Trump …. then it’s already baked in.
Attorney Shipwrecked Crew suggests several avenues, including a reply by the DOJ & Ms. Powell w/in 24 hours – no new submissions – no 3-week delay.
That could speed things along & force the next move.
Shipwrecked knows 100 times more about these proceedings than U do, but common sense tells me that isn’t likely to speed it up.
Why? Because Sullivan has introduced a third party …. his buddy Gleeson. I’m sure Gleeson and Sullivan will agree that Gleeson needs the full 3 weeks to prepare.
Shipwrecked said that Sidney and the DOJ should file their status report without Gleeson. He is not a named party, just an amicus. *The case is USA v. Flynn – two parties). there are other amici in this case, too.
Shipwrecked recommended makihg Gleeson go to Sullivan, and ask Sullivan try to officially declare Gleeson a “party,.” which even Sullivan might be hesitant to do, since Sullivan himself called Gleeson an amicus.
I wasn’t using the term “party” in the legal sense.
Gleeson is in the mix. The DC Circuit said so. As has Sullivan.
You can’t accept the benefits of a judgement and then file for cert.
Sorry for the typo. I meant to say 100 times more than “I” do. Not YOU.
Sweetness will be Trump reelection and Flynn being hired for his 2016 gig.
From Sullivan’s order today:
” … additionally respond jointly to any other amicus not ordered by the court.”
In other words, we’re back to Sullivan allowing almost any outsider who wants to weigh in ….. to weigh in.
This is infuriating. Barr needs to provide all evidence to Sidney that the FBI has been hiding that will exonerate Flynn. I have given up any hope that Durham is going to do anything. All that will be done is some FBI training and some reviews of FISA applications.
Durham will do nothing should be quite clear by now.
Barr will do nothing – should be quite clear by now.
Like I always say, when you have government investigating government, this is what you get.
the fact that none of my predictions has come true is merely proof of my farsightedness.