Remember when former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told President Trump the Canadian government could not continue its economic policy if the United States demanded they become self-sufficient.
One of the key reasons cited by Trudeau was the Canadian dependence on the USA for defense. Canada simply could not spend the amount of money needed to create their own military at a level required for independent defense and simultaneously follow their govt spending plan. Canada relied on the U.S. military as their defense strategy.
Yesterday, former British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said the same thing; only this time Starmer was saying the United States is no longer willing to “bankroll” Europe’s defense and both the U.K and European Union were going to need to find money to build their own military.
(VIA BBC) – Sir Keir Starmer has said Europe should build a common security framework, warning the change in its defence relationship with the US is permanent rather than “an aberration of the Trump presidency”.
The former prime minister was speaking at a British Irish Chamber of Commerce (BICC) dinner in Dublin on Friday evening.
Sir Keir said a “common security framework” for Europe was needed as much as a common market, with the UK at its centre.
He warned that “things will not go back to the way they were,” adding that the US had made clear it will no longer “bankroll” its European allies. (read more)
This public statement and admission by Keir Starmer follow remarks by current Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney to Politico on the heels of the Canadian-EU summit, also yesterday.
“If you’re connected to a satellite system that a billionaire, almost trillionaire, decides to turn off at one moment or not, that’s not a good idea,” Carney said. (source)
Think about this for a few moments. Canada, the U.K and Europe are all facing the same problem…. MONEY! Where are they going to come up with the funds to pay for a military investment they have declined to make for the past 50+ years?
It’s not just an issue of finding funds for a standing military, hardware, ships, submarines, aircraft, tanks, heavy and light artillery, missiles and drones etc., they also have to fund the technological capabilities to use and deploy modern weapons.
They also need advanced manufacturing, steel works, technological guidance systems, large numbers of strategically placed satellites, a space program that includes rockets to put them into orbit, and much, much more.
At scale this is multiple trillions, and that doesn’t include the baseline manufacturing systems needed to create all this independent infrastructure.
It’s one thing to say, ‘we will build out our military capacity‘, and it’s another thing entirely to actually build it. Does Canada or Europe even have the human resources within the engineering sector to create all this infrastructure? Think about it.
When you really stand back and look at the required level of investment needed, in addition to the time it takes to build all of the ancillary processes that are required to meet such an expressed objective, it really puts the context of the Canadian, British and European opposition to President Trump into context.
What is more feasible? Doing what is required to build-out your own military defense systems; or is it simply easier to get rid of the person who stops you from using the USA as your standing army?…
… ‘There are trillions at stake.’
All
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Trump has used reality to get them to pay for defense.
No to little extra money needed.
With US in NATO, Europe is secure.
Europe though wants US to pay for their offensive wars. And make believe that is defense.
Trump says NO!
I also say NO!!!!!
What’s the over/under on the UK re-joining the EU? Or will the EU concept collapse?
UK can join the EU History Theme Park as another themed destination, Old England Land, kind of like France Land and Espana Land. Make nothing. Sell nothing. Just invite the tourists to come and look at a fake presentation of how good it once was.
For all legal purposes … the UK never left the EU.
It is BREXIT in name only. The UK has remained a member and signatory to economic, banking, territorial, immigration and more related treaties/agreements with the EU and they are members of NATO.
The people who voted for BREXIT did not get BREXIT … they were gaslighted, “ROYALLY” … pun intended.
“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”
Margaret Thatcher
And, after +/- 70 years, doesn’t it make sense that the Marshall Plan should come to an end? Or, do the European countries remain nothing but a junior partner in perpetuity?
And, now that it is finally sinking in that Europe need to stand on their own two feet and provide for their own defense (among other things), how does it make sense that Canada wishes to hitch their wagon to the EU?
I think they’ll start with riot shields, batons, helmets with plexiglass visors. You know the essentials for citizen control.
Didn’t see you’d already posted the Margaret Thatcher quote.
But it’s worth repeating!
When it comes to foreign interference in U.S. elections I’d say that was pretty blatant. Of course it was fellow travelers helping Harris, so the two tiered justice system would/did protect them.
The broke UK’s saber-rattling at Russia is hilarious.
More match of equals today. How many US homeless can fit into Russian Siberia, once Trump finalizes the deal?
If I’m banking at a system that can shut off my access merely because the government doesn’t like my politics that is not a safe place to be.
Even the venerable Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland financed Hitler when he needed funding to invade Czechoslovakia. No dishonor among thieves, was their rule of thumb.
As did the Vatican among many others
Would have been a lot cheaper to pay the 5% Trump asked for.
Then they could not cut the side deals with the defense industries, , like they are accused of doing right now.
At some level Europe must have realized they were in an untenable situation with regard to their defense. It goes back to the American system of sovereign, wealthy nations instead of a single monolithic block of poor countries which abdicated their responsibility to see to the welfare of their citizens by ceding control to an elite group of perfumed princes in London and Brussels. Self sufficient countries can help each other, poor, dependent countries cannot.
They grew addicted to Uncle Sugar and have been in denial for 50+ years. Like all addicts, first step is acknowledging the addiction. Seems where we are. However, step 2, the crash, is never ever a fun time.
The EU experiment is dead. No energy. No manufacturing. No AI. Mass Islamic migration with most permanently on welfare. With a shrinking GDP overall compared to inflation. When does Europe face the hard truths?
Canada and Europe will be doing good if they can heat their homes.
Military? Probably not in the cards for them.
This may prove to be a blessing, once the Rags have taken control of EU governments.
True, but sad for non rag that may not have a clue what is happening.
No kidding………ever give power toys to little kids with no idea of how to use them responsibly?
Bear in mind the europeans started world wars one and two without the rags……..does anyone doubt for a minute they wouldn’t use their militaries against each other again, if they had them? Probably start another world war…….
Remove our nukes and personnel from the eu and let them go to 3rd world status. Couldn’t happen to more deserving people
Supposing they were to ally themselves with the most powerful military on their continent instead of provoking a war with it?
The US will no longer be the ruler wielding heavy in their rules based world order.
Boo hoo.
Kweir finally woke up to reality and now he has the sadz.
0.o
“There are trillions at stake” is THE reason the EU wants war. The debt issues can be hidden for a long time with war. I can think of only one country in Europe which has the capacity to manufacture given current factories and that is Germany (multiple auto plants) but will they be able to re-tool if necessary?
We need to exit NATO. Period.
chynna enters the chat.
Correct. I’ve posted several times in the past month that the EU has already surrendered their economic security to China, might as well throw in the towel and give them their national security too.
As our host reminds us: Economic Security
IS national security.
“Think about this for a few moments. Canada, the U.K and Europe are all facing the same problem…. MONEY! ”
Money = energy (petroleum, hydro, nuclear, etc.)
They’ve thrown their energy future away in the quest to fight the imaginary foe: global warming.
yes
more pretending
Now Ursula Fond of Lying (TY, Neil Oliver) says the Arctic belongs to the EU; how will they defend it from the big bad orange man?
Seal skin canoes armed with shark teeth spears. Just like always.
Hey don’t mess with the Innuit!
I’d bet money they could take out the EU’s naval fleet of 2 ships and two TDS-driven captains.
It’s Halloween. They are dressing up as leaders and saying “leader stuff.”
Annex Canada.
…but only as a territory. We don’t want those kooks as voting citizens.
Correct
Hard pass.
It does not matter at all. Why? Europe will soon be bowing to Mecca. We certainly do not wish to share anything with them. The old system is finished. The only thing left is the whining of the MIC and bureaucrats.
this is why I always say the entire world economy is addicted to the drug of federal reserve counterfeiting. its cold turkey time. its sucks to go though withdrawal, but its worse to stay on the drugs. you must go through withdrawal to get healthy and well.
it will be fun to watch the drug (printing money) induced delusions of socialalism, climate cult, etc. be confronted and discarded by all of our bratty foreign dependents.
The French say they want the butter and the money from [selling] the butter.
41 trillion dollars of national debt says “It’s about time!”.
Kier Starmer is or was in Leadership of the Socialist Fabian wing of the Socio-communist elements in the European theater. The Socio-communist mind set is unable to transit outside their ideology. Simultaneously they are committing suicide via the false “Green” BS. I am posting this again from 1928 and a bodied: – 1923-1926 – Communist Psychopolitics – The description of a course taught at the “Lenin Institute” to Americans sent by John D. Rockefeller. Rockefeller was member of the CFR This course still exists. What is “Psychopolitics? The art & science of asserting and maintaining dominion over the thoughts and loyalties of Individuals, Officers, bureaus, and Masses and the effecting of the conquest of enemy Nations through “Mental Healing”. Psychopolitics, is a less known oblique to Geo-politics, dealing with molding the highest strata of the “Mental Healing” arena – through this effecting of the conquest of enemy nations through “mental Healing”. Objective, conquest through social chaos. Beria, Mass Murderer of entire villages in the Russian conquests, was the Professor of the 2 year course.
Authors note: Beria was the longest-surviving and the most influential of Stalin’s secret police chiefs of the People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs (NKVD). The responsibility of the NKVD was to ensure the internal security of the Soviet Union and it systematically did so through massive political repression, authorized murders of many hundreds of thousands of politicians and citizens, kidnappings, assassinations, and mass deportations. He was murdered when his works were accomplished.
– 1928 – Origin of Environment fear as genesis of the Totalitarian New World Order. This through Environmental mental fear application. At the Sixth Party Congress held in Moscow in 1928, Communists wrote and approved “The Program” to bring in the New World Order. What most Americans cannot comprehend is the real nature of this diabolical criminal scheme. The Program of the Third International called for a global environmental program for transformation of all human beings on earth to accept the New World Order. These and other facts are brought to light by General Benton Partin in his videotape, Globalism: The Program. This through the above 1923-6 continuing Rockefeller Psychopolitics education program. Now think; 1892, 1904,1913,1923,1926,1934, 1945 and on.
Canada has 3 third world tubs, a couple of paper airplanes and their army consists of paid mercenaries from foreign countries. Nobel Carney couldn’t defend the Calgary Stampede.
But, but, his elbows are up.
Makes it difficult to keep sending $$$ to Ukraine
I asked GROK to make an image of Carney with a millstone around his neck with the letters EU on it
Carney is a WEF/Globalist; being born in Canada is of no consequence since he is looting Canada and joining the EU/WEF team. Canadians be damned.
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And it needs to be manned by individuals willing to defend the West. Even if they could develop the capacity, they don’t have enough people willing to stand up and fight.
exactly.with all the muslims in the e.u. those boys aren’t gonna want to go fight and leave all their women to fend off the gang rapers.
UK/EU: “Hey, you’re a top-tier industrial engineer. Can you help us?”
Dipl.Ing.: “Nice thought old boy, but I’m getting insane money from Audi to go to Georgia and build out their new plant.”
“If you’re connected to a satellite system that a billionaire, almost trillionaire, decides to turn off at one moment or not, that’s not a good idea,” Carney said
stop telling him that you’re going to put him in jail if you get the chance……..thats not a good idea either………..
Cry me a river, Canada.
Now go back to being so smug, claiming you are so superior to your loathsome neighbor to the south.
Sofia Patel-Election interference-will not work-we do not want cackling Kamala.
With the time it takes to re-arm, it’ll be too late. These days, they’re come-as-you-are wars.
Notice how the European riots are kinetic and fast. Unexpected even. Not enough security forces? How’d that happen.
Monty Python is Canada’s new defense minister.
Basic training consists of clapping two coconut shells together to simulate marching horses while hurling insults at the enemy: Your mother was a hamster, your father smells of elderberries. And I fart in your general direction. Boo.
Make trabuchons great again.
Ursula “Fond of Ly’in” is desperate to entangle Canada into the EU and failed to ask the other members. Hilarity ensued. Carney is taking leaps into the abyss and not bothering to ask the Canadian peasants for approval. Quite the facist move yet the low IQ, easily provoked masses fell for the “orange man bad” bait.
They hired a globalist banker named Carney and are surprised that they got a circus…
Europe is worried about Russia? Maybe they might want to consider the invaders already within their borders. They are not there to assimilate but, to conquer. Europe may very well fall before they ever get around to defending themselves.
The EU has talked about an ‘EU army’ for years. A bit of a laughable concept, as they have no manufacturing base, and no legitimate source of fuel to activate the manufacturing or the mobility of the army itself. Of course, their politic was similar to that of the Dems, where the US military was being weakened as well. I suppose they hope that once President Trump is gone, the US will revert back to the free trade globalism that the Dems initiated. Or else, perhaps the EU can source its equipment from China…..
“What is more feasible? Doing what is required to build-out your own military defense systems; or is it simply easier to get rid of the person who stops you from using the USA as your standing army?…” – Sundance
“As of 2026, Canada remains the only G7 country without indigenous orbital launch capabilities. All recent Canadian satellites, including the RADARSAT Constellation Mission and 12 launches in 2025, have relied on foreign providers, primarily SpaceX’s Falcon 9. “
As Carney prepares for a US military invasion he claims is going to happen he better get his own satellite system in place or he’ll have no eyes in the sky! 🤣 He’s a globalist puppet and outright fool! Canada is circling the proverbial toilet bowl! JMO
“Think about this for a few moments. Canada, the U.K and Europe are all facing the same problem…. MONEY! Where are they going to come up with the funds to pay for a military investment they have declined to make for the past 50+ years?”
As Margaret Thatcher famously said:
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”
The socialists of Europe should have heeded her wise advise before continuing down their road of socialism that could only be accomplished by the USA funding everyone else’s defense.
Back when it was Europe on $5 a day (1970’s) Europe indeed still needed US help.
But today it is Europe on $1000 a day. Realignments are long overdue.
With their DEI (anti merit) & climate policies, along with rampant theft of the taxpayer for their indulgences, there’s zero chance they can produce anything. They MUST Steal NOW, and they know it. Thats THE ONLY thing they’ve been good at.
Are the young men in the countries of the “Coalition of the Willing” going to sign up for a safari in a harsh realm?
Or will they have to be kidnapped and drugged?
So the globalist financiers wanted to carve up Russia for it’s vast natural assets to make even more $ so they had their puppets entice Russia into a war they knew would happen and they expected we USA taxpayers to ultimately foot the bill – as we have for decades.
I remember when Biden got installed and he went to Europe and proudly said “America’s back”. Yeah..here is our wallet…take what you want.
The entire federal debt is caused by two things…fraud and bankrolling every other country than our own. And neither of these things have any benefit to the American taxpayer. The ripple effect of electing just one man has been so incredible when you think about all of the things it has exposed.
They’re all done. They will sink or swim on their own. George Washington was right.