Several people have inquired about the Washington DC subpoenas for former CIA Director John Brennan being withdrawn, and what does that mean. I intentionally did not write about it at the time because I wanted to look closely at the fact pattern.
The DOJ is still planning to send requests for voluntary interviews and grand jury testimony according to media reports.
From my perspective, this is a good sign. Potentially a very good sign.
The issues around the CIA targeting President Trump are extensive, attached to numerous individuals and entities, and generally complex. Normally, an investigation of this scope would begin with questions to the outer perimeter individuals who were carrying out the instructions of those above them.
CIA Director, John Brennan and CIA Analyst, Eric Ciaramella
It is from those types of lower-level interviews that material is gathered for use in examining the truthfulness of those who organized and directed the operations. In the example of John Brennan’s false statements to congress surrounding the ICA (Intelligence Community Assessment), or the inclusion of the Steele Dossier in the analytical material, there are key people within the Directorate of Analysis, National Security Agency and National Intelligence Council who can give first-hand statements about Brennan’s instructions.
Those types of interviews are just as important as questioning John Brennan himself, and for obvious reasons those interviews should come first.
♦ Here is where it becomes important to remember a key thing that happened between the time the investigation of Brennan began and the arrival of investigative Asst to the AG, Joe DiGenova.
Do you remember the recent criminal referral by DNI Tulsi Gabbard for former CIA Analyst Eric Ciaramella?
BACKGROUND: Former CIA Director John Brennan was being investigated during the time that DNI Tulsi Gabbard was working on retrieving and declassifying the material surrounding the first impeachment effort against President Trump. CIA Analyst Eric Ciaramella was the “anonymous whistleblower” that triggered the report to Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson that started the impeachment operation.
This same CIA Analyst Eric Ciaramella was also involved in the fabrication of the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment, which is at the heart of the false testimony to congress that John Brennan is being investigated for.
Eric Ciaramella was criminally referred by DNI Gabbard for his actions in relation to the impeachment operation. This sets the DOJ up with the potential for a plea agreement with Ciaramella on his impeachment conduct, in exchange for testimony against Brennan on the ICA construct.
Suddenly we see reports of DOJ Brennan subpoenas being withdrawn immediately after the DOJ criminal referral for Eric Ciaramella is introduced.
**nudge-nudge* *wink-wink** See the dynamic?
I’m not saying this is happening, but the timing is awfully coincidental, no?
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department has withdrawn subpoenas issued in the investigation of former CIA Director John Brennan, with officials asking for voluntary interviews instead of testimony before a grand jury, two people familiar with the matter said Tuesday.
A small handful of subpoenas were known to have been issued over the weekend for witnesses to appear before a grand jury in Washington. But investigators on Monday evening informed lawyers that the subpoenas were being withdrawn in favor of requests for voluntary interviews, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity to The Associated Press to discuss developments in an ongoing investigation.
The reason for the reversal in course was not immediately known.
The months-old Brennan investigation is one of several criminal probes the Justice Department has opened over the last year against President Donald Trump’s perceived adversaries. It centers on one of the Republican president’s chief grievances — a U.S. intelligence community finding that Russia interfered on his behalf during his successful 2016 presidential campaign. (read more)
TIMELINE:
Aug – Nov 2025: CTH emphasizes need for ICIG Atkinson material to get to Ciaramella/Brennan
December 2025 – Brennan attorney notified he is under investigation.
Jan – March 2026 – DNI gains access to Atkinson transcript from HPSCI
March 2026 – DNI assembled ICIG Atkinson material from Ciaramella report and investigation.
March 25 – HPSCI releases transcript to DNI.
April 13 – HPSCI released ICIG declassified transcript / DNI releases ICIG Ciaramella report.
April 15 – Eric Ciaramella criminal referral.
April 21 – Brennan witness subpoenas withdrawn.
Hopefully the timeline helps people to understand what is likely happening in the background.
I suspect, well, let’s consider, Ciaramella has been given the opportunity to cooperate as a witness in the 2017 Brennan case; perhaps in exchange for something like limited immunity in the 2019 impeachment issue. The timeline tracks.
I definitely want them to proceed cautiously on this and take the time to do it right so accountability can actually happen…and stick. I will hope that this is the path we’re on. I’m good with trading Ciaramella for Brennan, Clapper and Comey.
IKR
I second this motion. At least 2 out of three knew what was going down in 2001.
Some people say there might be a prayer rug involved.
Don’t forget The Kenyan Kid.
I’d really love to see John Brennan get his backside handed to him.
If I get to see Brennan’s arrest and perp walk, and subsequently get to see him wearing orange and shackles, I can die a happy man. There are a few whom I despise as much as Brennan, and none more so.
I don’t think he’s the kind of guy that will ever go to prison. My guess is, if they haven’t taken his passport, he will leave the country. With his connections, he can probably get out of here without a passport. If the rumors are true, related to his conversion to Islam, he will head to Turkey or Indonesia. Otherwise, I bet he has a cyanide pill stash.
If he flees, I hope our friends in Mossad will do us a favor.
I’d rather he help convict Obama but I think he will “eat his gun” before he cooperates and turns on his fellow Muslim traitor.
He is too prideful to do anything but snarl at the little people.
The pride all these demons have is same reason I don’t worry about death bed conversions. Imagine Hillary or Brennen or Comey or Obama admitting with sincerity that they were wrong and admitting that without God they are nothing. AINT gonna happen.
Abso freaking lutely agree with that!
Andrew Weissmann, maybe…..
Actually hate Weissman more then the rest of them.
He’s directly responsible for affecting the livelyhoods of 10s of
thousands. Taking families into account, 250 thousand would
not be an unrealistic number.
The man has no soul.
I like to see Brennan’s backside handed to some large, Muslim prison cellmate who is very lonely and not picky about his lovers.
But self converted JB might enjoy it
🌈 ☪️
instead of prison orange, he should be issued a goat costume
I’ve been waiting for justice to grab him by the throat since the first time this traitor falsely called our President a traitor.
I SO want to see that communist thrown in prison.
I would rather see him take a short flight on a Russian helicopter. IYKYK
I would have have irrefutable evidence against the main players in this that would ensure they go to jail before I would support any immunity for anyone.
I’m still waiting for the indictment of Susan “by the book*” Rice.
* The book was authored by a guy named Alinsky.
The penultimate target has to be Obama. He was responsible for implementing all of this. But Obama’s handlers have to be the ultimate target.
What, if any, are the differences between information gathered by subpoenas, and the requests for voluntary interviews, as far as that information gathered either being withheld from public view or being made readily available?
My guess is there is a timetable after the subpoenas were issued by which the interviews have to take place. If so, withdrawal buys more time to put the screws to Ciaramella and make a deal.
Ciaramella did not commit suicide…
Lol – not yet!
I get it, let the rats dive out of the sinking ship and they call out the snakes on the way down
I love seeing Joe DeGenova rising from the shadows of the past to pull all the loose threads together again.
And whatever happened to Jeff Sessions? Is he gonna be bringing the crowning glory smackdown?
Mr. Feckless Sessions has done the right thing and given up public life. He teaches Sunday School classes now, supposdely.
Do not forget Mike Pence.
Who?
He shouldn’t even be doing that.
Ciaramella better be under guard. If he makes a deal, these guys will rub him out faster than a discarded cigarette.
Actually he already looks like a scared worm who got stepped on and is still wiggling
I don’t mind using a little fish to get one or several big fish, but keep at least one little nugget, perhaps a small felony open and remind him of it thru the process. Don’t give away the whole store.
Limited immunity. Not total.
If former CIA Director John Brennan is ever imprisoned, would it be “cruel and unusual punishment” to play PDJT’s voice into his cell 24/7 from all the rallies, news pressers, etc.?
It would not have to be loud.
Or a more personalized message. I can hear it now:
“You’re a loser John. You’ve always been a loser. Your parents knew you were a loser. Your Imam knew you were a loser; and now John, everyone in the world knows you’re a loser.”
Over and over and over again.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
😄
Or have AI-generated Trumpian script playing nonstop in his earpiece, requiring him to answer, thus making all the other prisoners believe he’s cray-cray.
Hellary’s cackle on a continuous loop. Does it get any worse than that?
Kamala’s hyena laugh?
Nope, it really doesn’t, just ask Bill
hahahaha –!
or…”What difference does it make”?, John.
Or….”am proud to be an American where at least I know I’m free” on a continual loop alternating with “…YMCA..”
TOTALLY as an aside
https://www.nysun.com/article/justice-department-approves-use-of-firing-squads-as-trump-administration-seeks-to-revive-federal-executions?
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/doj-announces-return-of-firing-squad-as-execution-method/
I hope Obama and Brennan have seen this news. Might trouble their sleep a tad.
Well, if nothing else Obama does smoke.
And the timing of that one?
No coincidence either…
I wonder who got a little woozy and light headed?
Interesting.
One can make a case that there are those who should not be dignified with a firing squad over a hanging.
I would like to see Brennan dragged thru the courts for 5 or 6 years then cut loose to make a living.
He has his government retirement income due.
They can take it away with a sedition conviction. Or a felony conviction; felonies related to public corruption, bribery, fraud and perjury. Bingo! We could get rid of at least half of Congress.
Thing that make you go hmmmm…..
Things are happening. Forward motion is something to be proud of. Most certainly with this bunch of heretofore untouchable cretins.
Here’s to the fleas shouting in front of the furnace. 😁
Two traitors that need to be recalled to duty and tried for at minimum sedition by military law:
Vindman the sitting CONgress critter needs recall to active duty and courts martial.
Talk to War Dept and make it happen.
If we had not had traitor Milley (he is rank in my book and should be stripped of his retirement and rank by courts martial.)
Then Vindman WOULD HAVE BEEN COURT MARTIALED!
Sec Def can call for these two actions on his own initiative.
This sure makes sense to me.
I have learned not to second guess Sundance…not since he made the early, early call on Bill Barr being a scumbag…possibly a traitor.
Sundance has been .doing really good work for a long time.
Amen
He deserves the modern equivalent of a Pulitzer Prize, if we could update that prize without the NY Times/Globalist connection.
I have learned not to second guess Sundance…not since he made the early, early call on Bill Barr …
“Bondo” was Sundance’s call
Serious question, does anyone know if we the taxpayers are going to end up paying for these scumbags legal defense?
Jack = Brennan
Elizabeth = Ciaramella
The Kraken = Trump administration
Sundance, I’ve been waiting for your take on the DOJ’s sudden rescinding of subpoenas related to the Brennan investigation ever since I read about it in the NYT three days ago…because I wasn’t sure whether to feel elated or depressed or somewhere in between over what it means.
Presumably, the DOJ’s subpoena withdrawal three days ago is related to the appointment of Joe diGenova four days ago to lead the DOJ’s criminal investigation into Brennan…and both those events dovetail nicely with Tulsi Gabbard’s criminal referral of Eric Ciaramella just nine days ago.
Ciaramella has been sloshing around in swamp galoshes long enough to know his boss, Brennan, and Brennan’s boss, Obama, were likely already hatching plans to throw him under the moving bus…which gives Ciaramella a powerful motive to cut a plea with DOJ before that happens. It also looks a helluva lot better for him to do his canary song before the Grand Jury voluntarily rather than being subpoena-compelled to testify!
So I was already teetering on the edge of feeling good about all this, Sundance, and your **nudge-nudge* *wink-wink** has me taking a few tentative practice steps to my Trump/YMCA happy dance!
This is all too technical, and way above my pay grade. The main thing I am most concerned about is making absolutely sure that all involved in the attempted coup against President Trump will either face life in prison or take the dirt nap. I do not want them to be able to run out the clock, get a reduced sentence, plea bargain, or anything that will reduce their time or punishment. I want some damn JUSTICE in this Country for once. I want the blatantly guilt to get the maximum punishment they rightfully deserve. That would be Obama, Hillary, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Susan Rice, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Alexander Vindman, Mark Milley, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, Bruce and Nellie Orr, John Podesta, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Andrew Weissmann, and the list keeps on going. Those would be at the top and an excellent list of candidates to face the maximum punishment. I know I must be hallucinating if I believe for a second that most on that list will ever be even the slightest inconvenienced, but will continue in life free as little birds, continuing to receive their dark money, their scam money, and whatever children of Satan do. But a MAGA Patriot can dream can`t he?
Paragraph breaks help a lot…….but I hear you
Add Warner to the list. Pretty please.
This is like calling all the brats into the principles office one at a time the morning after Halloween. A little more significant that just toilet paper, though.
I read today that the DOJ is readopting firing squads in federal executions. Coincidence??
To quote SD ‘s coincidence reference above,
“**nudge-nudge* *wink-wink** See the dynamic?”
If Ciaramella flips-schiff and so many others better lawyer up! I’d love to see a whole lot of dems on impeachment side of things retired or expelled before midterms-looking at you piglosi and schumer.
If Ciaramella’s word was good enough to support the attempted impeachment of an innocent sitting President…
Why wouldn’t it be good enough to prosecute those guilty of it’s attempt.
Had Brennan, Clapper and Comey ceased their political opposition to President Trump in 2017, I believe they wouldn’t be prosecuted.
Politics against an opposition candidate is political speech.
However, once Trump was elected President, continuing the ruse that Trump was a Russia Agent was a criminal conspiracy.
Borrowing a regular phrase from the dingdongs at CNN and MSNBC:
“The walls are closing in!”
Even if we get favorable jury convictions in places like FL or AL, if we get a Biden or Obama judge I wouldn’t put it past them to overrule the jury’s guilty verdict.
A judge can overturn a “guilty” verdict if the prosecution failed to provide sufficient evidence to prove every element of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. This is known as a Judgement of Acquittal (Rule 29) and is extremely rare, occurring in less than 5% of criminal cases.
I share your concern. But this is where the blue slip rule “might” help us. I don’t know the exact count, but there are likely to be far fewer Obama/Biden-type judges in red states like FL and AL.
The reason I say “might” though, is there is a good chance there are many Uniparty judges in those states, mostly thanks to McConnell, which is almost as bad. But our odds are still better in those states than they would be anywhere else.
I’d like to think that it’s either they received some ‘new information’ and want to slow down a bit in expanding the investigation or they feel they already have everything they need and offering a ‘voluntary’ interview – with hopefully the reality being some combination of both. (Embracing the power of “and”.)
Why didn’t they consider this play before they announced an indictment? Always ready to pull the trigger too quickly with an announcement, only to have to walk it back. Kash, get your strategy down first, then proceed. Americans are getting tired of false starts that end up going nowhere. You’re putting a lot of unnecessary extra pressure on mid-term election of our already do-nothing Republicans in the Senate. Glad to see Joe diGenova in the mix, he doesn’t play footsie.
I am cautious about DiGenova. I cannot forget how everyone thought Bill Barr was the real deal so I praying that DiGenova turns out be a good replacement.
Maybe the DOJ will open an investigation into the death of journalist Michael Hastings, who was investigating John Brennan around the time of his death.
You have a beautiful mind Sundance.!! I pray it is on track on this analysis of DOJ for the good guys.
Eric learned to sing “bigly” in 6 days.
My question is why DC? There is a much more favorable venue in FL with a judge (Cannon) that knows what’s up. There is a federal nexus for a grand conspiracy case (18 USC 2384) with the raid on Mar-A-Lago that can be threaded/tied all the way back to the time Trump came down the escalator.
I actually think this is happening because Comey was subpoenaed in FL and he’s been out of the loop (except for all the times he lied to congress and others) since Trump fired him in 2017. The fact that they dragged him down to FL shows that case down there is MUCH bigger than that ill-conceived raid.
It’s amazing how quickly the DOJ floodgates have opened, since Pam Bondi’s departure.
Freakonomics: “It’s amazing how quickly the DOJ floodgates have opened, since Pam Bondi’s departure.”
It sure as hell isn’t a coincidence! We will now be seeing if Todd Blanche is a Trump loyalist or he isn’t.
These leftist criminals never turn on their fellow demonrats. Only republicucks do that.
I hope the plea is something like, ‘Well we won’t execute you for treason, but, if you co-operate, you will have to serve 25 years in an El Salvador prison. But if you’re really helpful, we will give you 25 in a Florida Federal prison instead’.
I hope the DOJ uses Ciaramella’s testimony to drag in his friend Sean Misko. Since Sean Misko is considered to have been Ciaramella’s conduit into HPSCI and allegedly to Adam Schiff himself, getting Ciaramella and Misko to cooperate could lead to interesting times for Schiff.
Schiff now sits on the SSCI. Sean Misko has been working as an SSCI staffer since last July.
I guess this is part of Schiff et al getting their ducks in a row for another Trump impeachment attempt before February if the Democrats take Congress.
It would be interesting to know if any of them kept some sort of recording just in case they needed to throw one of the others under the bus to save themselves. Comey is not smart enough to have planned that. Brennan is to vain to have done so. Eric or Susan might have been clever enough to plan for such a contingency. What do you think?
Headline top prosecutor leaves.
Headline diGenova to join.
Headline subpoenas issued.
Headline diGenova sworn in.
Headline subpoenas withdrawn.
That all came after Ciaramella referral.
Looks to me as if there are still saboteurs in the Brennan investigation.
At the time the subpoenas were blamed on diGenova who had not been sworn in yet.
I saw at the time, you thought the withdrawal was a good thing. And what you say makes sense.
The sabotage was broader than just the Brennan investigation
Some details are unclear. How long were subpoenas in the works?
Was exiting prosecutor involved?
Was sabotage in rebellion for departure?
Was it someone rushing forward to do something that was being suppressed?
But it was clear at the time that the issuance was blamed on a person who was to join but did not have any power.
The fact that the sabotage impacted more than the Brennan investigation from which it came, is icing on any TDS saboteurs cake.
Very good assessment, and I believe has gotten into the real center of this whole affair!