Everyone can see the play by President Trump. Essentially, the “coalition of the willing” (U.K, Germany, France) are not willing to go to war against Russia without the United States in front of them. Giving the coalition the weapons puts the consequences of their use on the heads of NATO allies.
Despite the majority of Washington DC, specifically the Senate thirsting, pleading and demanding an expanded NATO war, President Trump does not want to go to war against Russia. However, simultaneously Trump has to try and steer the war machine controlled by DC, the Senate, USIC and NATO.
The INERTIA for expanded war is evident. President Trump is now trying to split the baby regarding Russia, by sending patriot missiles and weapons to NATO as opposed to sending them directly to Ukraine.
In February Marco Rubio earnestly and honestly said, “The Ukraine conflict is a proxy war for the United States against Russia.” President Trump has concurred with that statement and through his prior comments he attempted to extricate the U.S. from this dynamic.
The shipment of missiles to NATO instead of Ukraine is simply a way of trying to stop direct support, yet Trump is forced by the inertia toward war to maintain a footing of expanded conflict with Russia.
To be very clear, Russian President Vladimir Putin is clear-eyed on this situation with NATO, and he has been all along.
Putin has said repeatedly that NATO was/is in direct conflict against Russia despite Ukraine not being a NATO member. This conflict with NATO well precedes Putin’s decision to conduct a ‘special military operation’ within Ukraine.
Now, we see through Trump’s approach the dropping of pretenses. Putin was correct. With NATO directly providing the war weapons to Ukraine there is no pretense, no doubt. NATO countries are funding an offensive war against Russia using a non NATO proxy state, Ukraine.
As I have said, this western triggering has always been the inertia for war, and that war is now likely to expand as a result of NATO and even, unfortunately, President Trump’s approach.
The only thing that works in his/our favor is the cowardice of the U.K, France and Germany to fight Russia without the USA.
President Trump may try and distance himself and by extension the USA from this consequence of expanded conflict. But the consequence exists regardless of the obfuscation. We are parsing terms.
The US is going to fund expansion of the conflict directly with arms to Ukraine or indirectly by sending arms to NATO to give to Ukraine. The destination and intent of the weapons is the same regardless of the procedural process.
I came to Russia this time to understand the nature of how western inertia to war can exist, despite the people of the west demanding the opposite. I wanted to see for myself exactly what Russia was preparing for, and exactly how the people of Russia were reacting to that preparation.
Russia is well prepared, both physically and psychologically to go to war against any adversary. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s approval rating is between 70 to 80%, and despite what you might have heard in western propaganda media, the economy inside Russia is doing very well. In addition to the two-year service requirement (18-20 years old), all men aged 25 to 35 have been refresher trained in preparation.
The psyche of the Russian military is ready to get rid of the Nazis. Also, the sentiment of Europeans’ dislike of Ukrainian Nazis is easy to spot, albeit not well known outside the region. Despite decades of Brussels and USA provocation and political manipulation (perhaps because of it), there’s not a lot of pro-NATO support for the west here.
I am not a big fan of Russia; nor do I agree with the way the government constructs societal life within it. There are a lot of negatives to daily life in Russia. However, I do have a complete understanding of the govt positions and reasons for them.
Western media have pretended that Ukraine was not a U.S/NATO proxy war against Russia. Now, those pretenses are dropped. Conversely, Vladimir Putin never pretended.
Putin always accepted that Ukraine was, and long has been, a NATO proxy state for conflict against Russia; which is exactly the reason he ‘invaded‘ Ukraine in the first place.
President Trump may be trying to split the baby amid the retention of pretense, but it’s a pretense Russian President Vladimir Putin never held, he could not afford to.
Thus, the inertia of war and people asking “how did this happen?”
If I am accurate in his exit strategy, President Trump hopes to extricate himself from the Russia-Ukraine problem by putting the conflict directly into the lap of NATO, more specifically into the lap of British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz; the so called “coalition of the willing.”
President Trump is giving the weapons to NATO, again Starmer, Macron and Merz, for transfer to their buddy in Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. President Trump then stands back and draws distance from the consequence of what they do with them. However, this is also a massive provocation because NATO is now essentially operating on behalf of a non-NATO state, Ukraine, against another non-NATO power, Russia.
President Trump cannot remove the fact that the USA is the lead in all things NATO. As soon as France, Germany and the U.K start bombing Russia albeit from the geography of Ukraine, the conflict will expand.
NATO -thanks to President Trump- would then be baiting Vladimir Putin to attack France, Germany or the UK in retaliation, which would trigger Article 5; subsequently the USA is drawn into the conflict by agreement, and voilà a full expanded war between NATO and Russia commences.
But why?
If neither Russia or Ukraine are NATO members, why is NATO involved at all?
Good question. Perhaps President Trump will answer that question on Monday.
President Trump told NBC News, “I think I’ll have a major statement to make on Russia on Monday.”
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Live your very best life, but prepare for war.
Like a fat kid playing dodgeball, I’m out of here tomorrow (hopefully), and will hold an AMA on the topic of all things Russia next week.
Love to all,
~ Sundance
Having followed this conflict from the very beginning, Putin has always advised that this was a conflict of ‘attrition’, rather than a conflict for acquisition of land. Other than the issue of NATO at Russia’s border, his intent was also to ‘de-nazify’ Ukraine. The attrition part is interesting, particularly now that President Trump will provide the weapons to NATO rather than to Ukraine. The armed forces of France, UK and Germany are quite inadequate, in comparison to Russia. Early on, they had already sent whatever weapons they had ‘in excess’, to Ukraine. And there now becomes the issue of the deliverance of those weapons into Ukraine, which is not an easy task. I wonder exactly where the weapons will be delivered to….France? the UK??? There is no way that the EU is able, either through weaponry or troops, to withstand a conflict against Russia on their own. The population of Russia views NATO on their doorstep as an existential threat, and rightly so. I suspect (hope) that President Trump, by diverting the weapons ‘off site’ has devised a plan to finally bring this conflict to an end.
Which is why he didn’t take more land that necessay
Very good input and synopsis!
Putin attempted at the beginning of the war to bring a very quick end to it with that initial drive on Kiev. When that failed, he withdrew from the Kiev area and settled down for a war of attrition using the eastern oblasts that are mostly ethnic Russian as his base of operations. He has been gradually nibbling away at surrounding areas to the west and appears to have largely destroyed any offensive and even defensive ground capabilities of the Ukrainian army. That the Russians do not occupy more of Ukraine than they do is evidence that they are not in it for “acquisition of land”, as you said, at least not beyond those ethnic Russian oblasts in the east. That war is now being kept going by the drones and long-range rocket capabilities and other advanced weapons being supplied by the U.S. and NATO and not by any remaining capabilities of what is left of the Ukrainian military itself.
That was a feint to have Ukraine keep troops around Kiev and not get sent to Donbass. The RF only sent a small group to Kiev, not anything like they would need to occupy the fortified capital. This fake-out worked, they pulled their own forces when they had accomplished the goal (Oh, Russia is retreating!) and Ukrainian forces in the east did not get support until after they had been engaged.
Sun Tzu would have loved the RF execution of the SMO.
Exactly!
I wonder what kind of aircraft fleet CIA has in operation.
Here’s PART of the Answer –
https://www.americanspecialops.com/cia-special-operations/air-branch/
Wonder how they get parts to keep the Russian aircraft flying.
Russian IC would surely be aware of all this.
Are the US and Russia ICs colluding behind that scenes?
Another data point.
Maybe it’s still “air America”?
Or something controlled by the same interests, now named differently.
RVN 1970.
Slight tweek
There is no way NATO can win an all out non nuclear conflict with Russia in a place that is some 1500 miles from the nearest Atlantic port. It’s the military prowess of Russia plus location
Hold on. Napoleon and Adolph just weighed in. It’s also the sheer size of Russia that counts
and the winter offenses……….
Praying for this
Exactly. The stated goals of the SMO were the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. This is continuing apace.
Some different things to think about…or remember.
July 2023
U.S. legislation restricts Presidential authority to withdraw from NATO – National Security
Nov 2024…..
The law is ‘not airtight’: Trump may have a way out of NATO – POLITICO
💥💥As for US draft….pretty interesting that Ukraine just lowered
their draft…..to 25 years old — April 2024.
Interesting article…they are blaming US for pushing to lower
their draft age to 18?
😉 😉 I am thinking that if our government wanted to
start drafting our 18 year olds….whole lot of pushback 😉
As US pushes Ukraine to lower conscription age, why won’t Kyiv draft younger men?
Kyiv Independent…December 2024
Just imagine the exodus if they drop to 18.
A silver lining presents itself: imagine if a few million Ukrainian boyos and their rabid Galician (Azov) counterparts show up to the coming scrum with the Muslims.
It would be like the cavalry has arrived. There are times when soccer hooligans come in real handy.
If seen as a workaround to the president’s lack of contol over the IC’s rogue conduct in Ukraine (and Putin’s awareness of it), he may be demonstrating contol of the Pentagon and its significance.
The president’s strategy could be something like:
1. Assume the relatively low risk of NATO expansion of the war without the assurance of joinder by the US ( See 4. below);
2. Highlight the strictly defensive nature of the US weapons transferring to NATO (thereby limiting the US contributuion to Ukraine’s offensive war fighting capability, while magnifying Ukraine’s inherent “war of attrition” disadvantage (See 4. below);
3. Leave CIA effectively limited to a.) managing such attrition to Ukrainian’s inevitable defeat, or b.) retiring from the fight;
4. Thereby effectively signaling to Putin, Zelensky, NATO and the IC that presidential contol does exist to a determinative degree; and thus
5. Provide the new basis and impetus for negotiations to the war’s end.
Cancel all cia missions. Transport it to military drone and economic hits in the meanwhile. And have every operator lead brief the president directly on their current operation
It would behoove us, somehow, to infiltrate you into Trump’s inner circle. You appear to know what you’re talking about
Too charitable, but thank you.
Just searching for the plausible, like most commenters here.
I think there’s also the possibility that he’s employing a similar tactic to the one Gorbachev used, against his variant of the Soviet MIC/IC, when they constantly suggested that they could achieve a military solution in Afghanistan. He gave them the resources and watched as the results never came close to their rhetoric, and when he announced they would pull out there was little opposition.
Same with Ukraine, nothing, bar a substantial NATO deployment, will shift the scales and the weapons delivered cannot magically make up the shortfall of trained recruits, or enable Ukraine to regain any significant territory lost to Russia. Just as no amount of hardware allowed the Soviets to obtain anything more than a temporary control over the vital Panjshir valley.
Not only does the Gordy gambit squarely focus blame on the IC and their European proxies and 5-Eyes cohabitors, but it effectively insulates Trump from any attempts to suggest he’s secretly a Russian asset. A clever strategy borne of necessity, not desire, and one that offers the opportunity of a rapprochement, post-conflict. Something that terrifies the DS and threatens to upend their entire strategic/economic programme of breaking up Russia into vassal states. Remember, not only are trillions of dollars at stake but also the trillions of minutes spent preparing this desired outcome.
Too many times already Russia has destroyed stockpiles of munitions, sometimes as soon as they touch ground in Ukraine. It’s probably safer to ship them to europe and then transport them overland by truck. It also put the onus on europe to decide the depth of their commitment, instead of them standing behind the skirt of Lady Liberty and expect us to do all the heavy lifting while they talk crap behind our backs.
And it’s to shut purple hair ukraine flag flappers up
Defensive weapons. Pointless
Safe travels home
General Sundance.
The oligarchs who own politicians are absolutely drooling over oceans of American, Russian and European blood, spilled in an unwinnable nuclear war.
Horrific crimes are burried by war. And never brought up again. Genocidal atrocities occur in war. Many that are never acknowledged. While the wealth of nations are plundered during and after. And finally it is the quickest population reducer ever.
End
They are weak punks. And their drool is dried up.
See comments above
And, the rich stay rich and the rest of us are too shocked and too filled with grief to do anything about the reasons for the war.
In other words, the powerful stay powerful because there is no emergent families or organization to contest their power, their authority, their grip. That is the intent.
Brutal and brilliant in one bloody stroke.
Bout damn time someone put the word invasion in quotes. It was never such a thing. Russia no more invaded Eastern Ukraine than the US and Allies invaded France on D-Day. You don’t invade the territory of people who support you
And as for any civilian deaths being war crimes, the Allies committed aa many of these crimes in France in ONE MONTH (July, 1944) than Russia has in this entire war. There has been a figure bandied about of 12K civies killed in Ukraine on both sides, which includes a few thousand intentionally murdered by Ukraine. So let’s say 8K caused by Russia
Back to WW2, Allies bombed the towns of Caen and St Lo into rubble at a cost of perhaps 8000 civilian deaths (5k in Caen alone) And these were the people we were liberating! And let’s not even get started on civilian deaths in Germany and Japan combined
I really like that analogy comparing Russia liberating Eastern Ukraine to the Allies liberating France because that is exactly what is happening.
To cart out an old(but true) cliche.
The first casualty of war is the truth.
Over 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainian citizens shelled in the Donbas by the Ukrainian government, and that was by the time the war started. Heavy military bunkers and artillery emplacements pointed at their own citizens on the Donetsk/Lugansk borders. You’re darn tootin’ they begged Mother Russia to come save them, just like the Crimeans did.
And some people still wonder why Putin doesn’t want the U.S. negotiating/arbitrating a peace agreement.
If I was Putin I would require that the first paragraph of any peace agreement set forth who started the conflict.
That is Nuland, Bojo the Clown and the people pulling their strings.
And I wouldn’t have any part of a negotiation with the country who was behind all of it from the start. At least not until the truth was put forth.
I would also want some clarification on who is actually running the I.C.’s for the countries who are claiming interest in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
seconded.
if Trump really is NOT in charge of the IC, then any adversary country would be a fool to make peace with a pretend vichy government.
Just since 9-11 I have had to take off my shoes to board an airplane. Then not take off my shoes anymore. Then suddenly getting yelled at to take off my shoes. And now I don’t have to remove my shoes again.
I know why Putin doesn’t believe much of anything coming from the US Bureaucracy. I wonder if Lindsey Graham approves of this lastest TSA reversal? /sarc of course
In the same vein as Trump sending weapons to NATO rather than Ukraine, (and presumably with the same intent of slowing the intertia to war), Trump has told Lindsey Graham and his Senate war hawks that he will not sign their bill calling for sanctions against Russia unless that bill is modified to give the President sole authority to oversee U.S. foreign policy by allowing him to waive those sanctions at his discretion.
I am having difficulty understanding the motivations of Graham, Starmer, Macron and Merz, for beating the drums of war.
These are not personally brave men but their actions are making the prospect of nuclear fire raining down on Washington, London, Paris and Berlin more likely. Why they continue to play this game of Russian Roulette with atomic bullets is beyond me!
“I am having difficulty understanding the motivations of Graham, Starmer, Macron and Merz, for beating the drums of war.”
A: The love of money.
Why are we sill in NATO?
inertia.
MIC
$
making sure people like Lindsey stay in charge.
Yep!
Lindsey Graham?
Our corrupt politicians…who were working
during Biden installment to “Trump Proof “
that he would get re-elected and pull out
of NATO.
July 2023
U.S. legislation restricts Presidential authority to withdraw from NATO – National Security
Nov. 2024…May have a way out—🙏🙏
The law is ‘not airtight’: Trump may have a way out of NATO – POLITICO
JULY 11 2025
reuters
Senate panel approves $500 million aid for Ukraine in defense bill
The Senate Armed Services Committee has approved $500 million in security assistance for Ukraine
[…]includes a provision to extend the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative through 2028, increasing authorized funding to $500 million from $300 million in 2025.
The initiative aims to bolster Ukraine’s defense capabilities as it battles Russian forces
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/senate-panel-approves-500-million-aid-ukraine-defense-bill-2025-07-11/
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I vote no but my vote hasn’t made any difference at any level of Government for 50 years.
“security assistance ”
Sounds so benign.
Within the Reuters article, it refers to the bill as a draft and says that it will make its way back thru the house.
USA (DJT) sells weapons to NATO.
USA is main funder of NATO.
USA buys its own weapons thru NATO.
NATO sends the USA’s weapons to Ukraine.
Voila! USA not involved in sending weapons to Ukraine.
USA is not involved in the war in Ukraine. Impartial third party. The great negotiator/mediator.
Sanction 3rd party purchasers of Russian energy 500%. Make friends everywhere in the world and cripple imports to the USA.
Voila! Resulting inflation and economic collapse is caused by RUSSIA!
It will be WAR and it won’t be my fault.
Genius stuff! MAGA Smart! I AM A GENIUS!
How is europe authorized to confiscate NATO munitions and then ship them, for use, to a 3rd party non-NATO country. If that is in the NATO Charter, then yes, we do need to get out of NATO.
Rules-based-order, of course.
Geniuses hard at work figurrrrring stuff up!
Charter!?!
We don’t need no stupid charter!
Since when has anybody in government obeyed the rules?
Nato illegally bombed and attacked the Serbs our allies and friends to help nazis in the balkans and finish what the nazis tried to do in in ww2
Yes we did at I have to constantly remind people just a few years younger than myself about Bill Clinton’s war. Funny that the press never covered it and never reminds anyone about that travesty.
Picture of Enoch Powell: “I tried to warn you”.
American version – picture of Pat Buchanon: “I tried to warn you”.
You understand. Ty
“Rivers of blood”, indeed.
The effeminate effete of Europe may be shocked when the peoples of the world side with Russia.
If one wants US Soldiers fighting and dying a good way to do it is article 5. No declaration of war, tolerable culpability politically.
“We had to, we have to honor our treaty commitments”
I am always suspect of NATO… the closest thing to a European Commision.
This development must mean the end of any hope of breaking Russia away from China.
This entire war has been engaged by the US from the beginning as a cover up for deep state activity–specifically bio-weapons research by its USAID recipients–as well as a money-laundering operaton for politicians on the take, for which the Hunter Biden-Burisma affair was certainly the tip of the icebeg. And of course, as a military-industrial complex cash cow.
This also served to divert attention from Biden administration corruption.
No one has tried harder than Donald Trump to bring the war to a close, but you have to suspect in doing so there are factors compelling limits due to his larger agenda of trade and economic dominance for the US.
With this latest move, the war is cementing itself as President Trump’s war too, not just Biden’s.
Otherwise, he would simply announce there would be no further US weaponry shipments; it was in Ukraine’s best interests to make peace; while announcing to NATO members that as of the date of his announcement the US unilaterally withdraws from the killing fields of Ukraine and NATO member s are on their own if they continue fueling Ukraine resistance under its own absurd terms for peace.
With the Epstein DOJ coverup, it’s been a hard week for MAGA.
Sundance’s description of western politicians, flagrantly ignoring their constituents, continued insistence on expanding the war in Ukraine as the INERTIA for expanded war is brilliant. Inertia is the tendency of an object to maintain its existing state of motion regardless of its velocity. Only an outside force can change the velocity.
By forcing NATO to arm Ukraine, Trump is hoping to alter the velocity of the conflict. However, I don’t think using NATO, given how intertwined and US dominate it is, will provide the requisite force to alter the velocity (or the trajectory if you like). The blatant hypocrisy of this proxy NATO war against Russia using a non-NATO nation is staggering particularly in light of goal to provoke Russia into attacking a NATO country to trigger Article V.
This is the worst of trajectories, and it is being cheered by the worst of people: Those who are willing to provoke a catastrophic war to achieve the goal of a World Government.
Back to Trump and Putin:
Given what is a stake: If they are privately communicating well, including using trusted back channels, and if both leaders understand the catastrophe that NATO is initiating via UK, France and Germany, perhaps these two known patriotic leaders can create enough force to change the inertia.
The pattern of inertia is eerily similar to that in 1914. Complicated alliances creating the inertia for a war that most did not want. In a sense, even more devastating than the grueling combat & destruction, WWI created the opportunity for the internationalists of the day – Fabians, Socialists of varying stripes and Communists – to use pacifism as the sheeps’ clothing to cover their lupine desires to destroy private property and usher in, according to the “science” of History, a new classless order.
It was in Russia that the full horror came to pass with Lenin and his Bolsheviks instigating a civil war resulting in 10+ million dead. Some historians insist it was inevitable (INERTIA). Neither WW1 nor the Russian Civil War had to have happened. There just was no outside force strong enough to alter the velocity, and the world careened into a bloody cauldron it
has yet to escape from.
Well thought out, and I agree completely with your assessment, healy.
The comparison to 1914 is too close for comfort.
Currently reading Dreadnought by Robert K. Massie for the second time. Brings all of this home rather loudly and uncomfortably.
“The pattern of inertia is eerily similar to that in 1914. Complicated alliances creating the inertia for a war that most did not want. ”
The WWI comparison has been going through my mind, also, lately.
It had nothing to do with a war most did not want. It escalated too quickly after the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand by Gavrilo Princip a member of the revolutionary group Black Hand.
The whole internationalists of the day sentence I couldn’t follow. All the principles of this war were related to the Queen of England. It was not complicated alliances. The Russians joined the ethnic Serbs and Germany jumped on the side of Austria-Hungary. It wasn’t that complicated, at all, then. It complicated when the French and British jumped in.
The civil war in Russia was due to the ineptness of Russian generals with whom some were dismissed, shot or committed suicide. The Russian soldering was so bad the women brigades were called into battle. They then called it quits with the Brest-Litovsky Treaty which they gave away the literal bread basket of their country now Ukraine. Then came Alexander Kerensky and a thought of a pro-western government was squished by Lenin and others………Bolsheviks and Menshiviks.
Yes, it was the worst of times. Though I am not sure how you can say it should’ve never happened. It did happen and yes, no one could have stopped it’s course once it began. It almost like saying what would have happened if the Japanese didn’t attack Pearl Harbor. It did and we got WWI.
“The shipment of missiles to NATO instead of Ukraine is simply a way of trying to stop direct support”
Seems direct enough to me.
Direct or indirect? If it ends up in the same place, it still ends up in the same place.
The only reason to go through NATO is so EU countries can pay US with proceeds from Russian frozen assets.
Also some public shaming involved. If EU countries want to get Patriots to Ukraine, they can send the systems like SD said already deployed in their own countries. Then take the newer systems paid for with Russian assets for themselves.
Spain in particular should be shamed into giving up the Patriot system they refuse to pay for via NATO contributions.
“Trump resumed weapons shipments to Ukraine because Russia is coming close to winning the war there. If that happened, Trump would be blamed by all Democrats and many Republicans for “losing” the war. This is a critical threshold. Until this decision, Trump could plausibly claim that this was Biden’s war and Trump was trying to end it. With this decision to continue weapons shipments, it now becomes Trump’s war, and he is invested in not losing. This is the same mistake Lyndon Johnson made in Vietnam. That was JFK’s war and LBJ could have ended it quickly. Instead, he escalated, and it became LBJ’s war. This led to Johnson’s political undoing. The same thing will happen to Trump. This is the biggest mistake Trump has made (under the influence of neocons in the White House and Congress) and will be the beginning of Trump’s political downfall.” – Jim Rickards
Now we see why the 2024 NDAA was changed (look up who authored and proposed the amendment) to prevent US withdrawal from NATO without CONgressional approval.
Article 1: The Parties undertake to settle any dispute in which THEY (emphasis added) may be involved by peaceful means…
Article 8: Each party…undertakes not to enter into any international engagement in conflict with this treaty.
German/French/British/NATO provision of weapons to Ukraine would seem to run afoul of Articles 1 and 8. This is not a conflict THEY are involved in. They have entered into an international “engagement” that conflicts with the treaty’s stated goals.
Trump has grounds to withdraw from NATO and if they’re hellbent on dragging us to war then we SHOULD. Thanks to the 2024 NDAA, VSGPDJT would have to fight that out in the SC.
Mike Lee has introduced a bill to withdraw the US. I doubt it gets traction but we can dream.
“President Trump told NBC News, “I think I’ll have a major statement to make on Russia on Monday.””
I’m not Nostradamus, but I rather doubt it will be singing any praises of Vladimir Putin.
Time to get out of NATO, I think.
The whys and wherefores of Putin’s invasion seem to be plenty and varied.
But the one thing that sticks with me is the enormous drain on the US’ military stockpiles that began with the start of the war.
We are now so short of armaments that China is having a hard time holding off taking Taiwan, safe in the knowledge the US only has two or three days’ worth of many primary weapons.
Given Puppet Biden’s remark about it being okay for Putin to do something along the lines of what occurred, it’s hard not to think of the Obama group acting once again to diminish the US very much along the lines of paying the Iranians to build and deploy nuclear weapons.
No matter how much you despise Obama, it will never be nearly enough.
“The Kremlin has acknowledged Trump’s upcoming statement and is awaiting its content. It remains unclear what specific actions or announcements Trump will make, but the focus appears to be on increasing pressure on Russia through sanctions and military support for Ukraine.”
If that’s true then to me that’s a mistake and Biden’s war becomes President Trump’s war!!!! I wish he would just walk away from the Ukraine period!!!!
It has been President Trump’s war for quite a while already.
173 days in a 3+ year war isn’t a long time but I guess it could be in politics. What he announces coming up will determine if President Trump takes ownership of that war from demented, pedo Joe Biden! If he increases military aid it’s his war and that’s a big mistake! It will mean to me he’s listening to the neocons and warmongers surrounding the White House! JMO
All countries operate as a type of super-ego. Interests, interests, interests and when you think the interest list is exhausted add more interests.
We’re all quite use to the non-pretending reality that media, specifically print media is use as a tool in ways that are very hard to discern.
My radar is highly attuned to print media unsuspectingly being played to loosely inflame passions and emotions driving an unspoken agenda.
Where in many cases the underlying objective is of an overt contrarian narrative and/or of a counter intuitive methodology.
Sundance illustrates this perfectly for us on many occasions.
To understand the problem is to ask what is not being talked about via Ukraine-Russia, US-Russia and Nato-Russia. This is the real driver of this conflict. Whether it is called a proxy war or civil war.
Any impartial analysis of this proxy war is going to have its talking points. While many of them are valid. These are also the pure emotional headline grabbers designed to tribalize the raw emotion. In a manner of speaking, this creates that covert space where the unspoken agenda operates. And, it is way more uglier than any can image. Then there are the peripheral agendas. These are the grey areas where the hidden agenda comes to analyze and correlate the raw emotions for effectiveness.
Look most here at CTH readily understand this intuitively. We all may bitch and moan about the IC, but we do ever look at it in this manner. Emotionally detached and prepared to entertain conflicting narratives to see how the IC wields it’s power over officials and public opinion. And, doing so take back the IC’s power.
The issue is the US and Russia are both trying to extract something from Ukraine that has everything to do with Ukraine and absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine.
Positions that both sides find themselves trying to put the genie back into the bottle since the die was cast in back in 2011-2014. Since both sides are in many ways in alignment with the big picture outcome while at the same time being at loggerheads over domestic blowbacks of what is truly happening.
Ukraine just happens to represent the ultimate non-grey area where two Nations find that emotional super-ego not willing to budge. That quintessential dark space where things can get out of hand. There are many media data points from this period of time (2011-14). Very discreet observations that made headlines back in the day, that support this dark conclusion of mine.
(Side note: None of us are innocent, that is how ugly it is. It is even drags in those who would proclaim innocence.)
I can not even safely say, “I have the words to state this conclusion directly because the truth is none are prepared to remain emotionally detach.”
The only choice is just stop the insanity. Just stop.
Most just want a nice bow and ribbon package under the tree.
The issue is the US and Russia are both trying to extract something from Ukraine that has everything to do with Ukraine and absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine.
As surprising substantial that exclamation is, “It is packed full of nothing.”
Just what is its meaning. What is that something?
To me it’s about how the Federated States are trying to grapple with their perceived population-bomb issues and for USA and aligned it’s all about the basket-case making of the currency-basket we find ourselves in.
Hopefully and pray won’t hurt either, that we find both Mr. Putin and Mr. Tump are approaching Ukraine through that lens. That is to say, “Hopefully both have come to understand that is what the super-egos of their respective Nations are trying to sort out and doing so put back into the genie bottle the ugly march, creep of hidden agendas.
(Again no angels here)
(And don’t think for a second that the respective adversarial ICs are not in-bed with each other.)
(The IC got alot of mileage out of that song)
I know there is more to this song than meets the eye so try these..
While there no music video to that I could find and the ones that paid tribute are very long with only a splash graphic
Мы не виноваты
We are not blame
By “Кино” (Kino)
There is this…
In that I believe speaks of legacy of Tsoi very poignantly.
Just as does…
How does one prepare for war?
Bet you didn’t think you’d be asking that 6 months in.
The best hope at this point is Trump announces the US withdrawal from NATO. If they start a war they must fight the war., ALONE!
Europe is lost anyway. Either via Russia or moose slum births.
NOT OUR FIGHT!!!
Weapons shipments, or no, IMHO, POTUS still needs to make a clear statement that should NATO countries act aggressively towards Russia, this invalidates the NATO mutual defense agreement and those NATO countries who act unilaterally will have earned any retaliatory action by themselves, alone … and deserve it.
NATO is a defense treaty. Period. Let’s rescue this notion from the slippery slope that it is now precariously sliding down.
The War on COVID was fake too.
Adolf Heusinger. Served as Acting Chief of the General Staff of the Army for about 6 weeks. Was present at the Wolf’s Lair during the 7/20/1944 assassination attempt, injured in the bombing and was arrested and interrogated by the Gestapo, released a few months later. Taken prisoner by the western Allies and was interred for 2 years. Returned to service when the Bundeswehr became active in the mid 1950s. Appointed as Chairman of the NATO Military Committee in the spring of 1961, served until he retired in 1964.
Public clarity would help. There is so much pretending still going, and by this administration.
Lay out the history and documentation: Pentagon operating 46 bio labs in Ukraine, the years of maneuvering a Nazi infested Ukrainian regime as an imminent NATO member on the border with Russia, the western overthrow of Ukrainian elections to further this, etc.
How refreshing if Trump laid it out: Putin was absolutely correct to defend his country by putting a stop to this cancer. NATO is totally culpable as agressor (show the NATO maps of their dream Russia divided into zones based on their $74 trillion in natural resources) and should be disbanded as a a now-perverted agresssor organization bent on taking Russia.
He would have the facts, history and righteousness on his side. Americans would recognize it.
Imagine if Russia was setting up bio weapons labs in Mexico and Canada and overthrowing those country’s elections to install regimes with strong Nazi links so as to integrate them into of an anti-US military organization. What would be the obvious conclusion?
Don’t pretend to know all the hidden little games no doubt in play, but really don’t care. One. Bit. Godzilla mode, please, wipe out these scummy NATO jerks dreaming of Napoleonic conquest and seizing the wealth of other countries.
The whole continuance depends on misleading public perceptions of what’s going on, so end that. 90% of the people I know think Ukraine is an innocent victim, Putin invaded because he’s Hitler, and its our job to stand up for the “little guy” and stop Hitler. So ironically twisted.
Putin invaded Ukraine. Putin is a Commie loving dictator who is trying to put the old Soviet Union back together again. Ukraine is his first and biggest step.
Is that you, Miss Lindsey?
Yes, it’s Miss Lindsey. So where do you disagree with anything I stated??
Prescient and true.
When talking about Russia, George Kennans words read to the dumb and the dishonest, is like giving garlic to a vampire.
I’m just over here pondering. As good as Russian intelligence is, do they know exactly who the “deep state intelligence community” is that’s pushing this war?! I’ve little doubt they do. It seems to me that information handed off to Trump discreetly, very discreetly, would offer him another avenue of deescalation to this insanity. Maybe Trump already knows who they are. I’m just wondering
Russian knows who most of the CIA players are who are keeping this war going. President Trump should order every CIA employee home, put a total outgoing communication blanket on Langley. Any agent who isn’t accounted for in Langley after a week is disavowed by name and a bounty put on their head.
Then let nature take its course…
I miss Trump 45. Trump 47 is not willing to do the hard things he was elected to do, one of which is to shut down the pointless foreign wars.
As long as NATO exists, as constituted today, war with Russia and/or China is the eventual trajectory and outcome. Since the potential exists to extinguish all human life in these countries as well as the USA, it behooves the USA to exit NATO asap, under any pretext, absent any direct threat to the USA.
One thing is for sure:
If the EU clowns that pose as its political leaders insinuate as much as half a comma of a possible military conscription for EU boys on a rumor of a whisper of open war with Russia…well …
…the EU plebs already really, really, pi$$ off with everything else WILL REVOLT as never seen since the French Revolution lol.
‘The shipment of missiles to NATO instead of Ukraine is simply a way of trying to stop direct support, yet Trump is forced by the inertia toward war to maintain a footing of expanded conflict with Russia.’
Rubio says it is to expedite deliveries to Ukraine:
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2025/07/11/us-is-selling-weapons-to-nato-allies-to-give-to-ukraine-trump-says/
But let’s talk about why Trump is ‘…forced by the inertia toward war to maintain a footing of expanded conflict with Russia.’
He could end it immediately by ending military/intel support.
Why, exactly, is he continuing it? (Be specific. Not just vague things like “the inertia”.)
It’s been discussed in these pages ad naseum – POTUS does not control the IC. Legally, he has the authority. The silos are structured to box him in and prevent him from using it. Intel is obscured. The system is set up to prevent him from even knowing HOW and WHERE to apply his authority.
My $0.02.
The only thing Trump can do to slow the drums of war on Monday:
The US will sell weapons to NATO and what they do with them is their business.
However if Russia attacks a NATO country because of the conflict in Ukraine the United States will not come to Europe’s defense. The defense of Europe must come from Europe.
The war will end very quickly.
Interesting Ukraine Budanov announced this today
11 Jul, 2025 22:11
Ukraine needs ceasefire by end of 2025 – spy chief
A truce with Russia must be brokered as soon as possible, Kirill Budanov has said
A ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine must be reached by the end of the year, the head of Ukraine’s military intelligence, Kirill Budanov, said in an interview with Bloomberg published on Friday.
He made the remarks as Ukrainian troops steadily lose ground along different sections of the front line, and after the 2024 incursion into Russia’s Kursk Region ended in costly failure. The Ukrainian army has also been struggling to bring in new conscripts.
Budanov told Bloomberg that “a ceasefire must be reached as soon as possible and well before the end of this year.”
“Is it realistic to do so? Yes. Is it difficult? No,” he said. “It takes at least three sides – Ukraine, Russia, and the US. And we will get to this position.”
Moscow has rejected the proposal for an immediate and unconditional truce, insisting that Kiev and its Western backers must first agree to several demands, including the withdrawal of troops from Russian territory claimed by Ukraine, an end to Ukraine’s mobilization campaign, and a halt to foreign military aid.
Russian President Vladimir Putin also accused Ukraine of seeking a pause in the fighting to rearm and regroup its forces. Moscow has also warned that it will not accept the presence of NATO troops in Ukraine, even if they are deployed under the guise of peacekeepers.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said this week that the sides are working to arrange a third round of direct talks in Türkiye. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said at a summit in Rome on Thursday that the countries must first complete the prisoner swaps agreed to in Istanbul on June 2.
(Budanov is one of highest level leaders in Ukraine intelligence, this is a serious statement and it’s surprising that Zelensky didn’t stop him.)
https://www.rt.com/russia/621366-ukrainian-spy-chief-softens-ceasefire/