The latest developments in the effort to purchase the unsustainable magic coffee shop are quite revealing.
According to the New York Post, “Musk himself is willing to invest between $10 billion and $15 billion of his own cash to take Twitter private, two sources close to the situation said. That’s up from the current 9.1% stake in the company he revealed on April 4, which is worth about $3.4 billion.”
However, more revealing about the overall issue are the comments from the PR firm of the U.S. Intelligence Community, The Washington Post:
(WaPo) […] “Putting so much power in the hands of one company is bad enough, but putting it in the hands of one person, as is largely the case with Facebook shareholder Mark Zuckerberg and would be the case if Twitter were owned by Musk, would be incompatible with democracy.”
“There are simply no checks and balances from any internal or external force,” … “It would leave Musk, like Zuckerberg, with an amount of assembled data about people and the ability to use it to manipulate them “that cannot be compared to anything that has ever existed, and allows intervention into the integrity of individual behavior and also the integrity of collective behavior.” (read more)
People are starting to catch on to the reality that costs for data processing on many social media platforms (the free coffee), exceeds the ability of the platform to generate revenue. People are starting to understand that behind the scenes of the Big Tech consortium, there is something else, some other operational construct and mechanism, that subsidizes & facilitates their existence.
It is very revealing how the intelligence apparatus of the United States had no issue with Twitter data and influence, until the potential for private ownership, perhaps uncontrolled private ownership, surfaced. Do not be naïve in pretending not to know how The Washington Post represents the interests of the intelligence apparatus.
In the long arc of history, I truly believe we will discover the inflection moment for the merge of U.S. Deep State (intel community) and U.S. Social Media, will be identified in the early moments of the Arab Spring of 2010/2011. That was when Facebook and Twitter became tools for the State Dept operation in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Bahrain and beyond. That was the beta-test of synergy.
“Arab Social Media Report by the Dubai School of Government give empirical heft to the conventional wisdom that Facebook and Twitter abetted if not enabled the historic region-wide uprisings of early 2011.” (LINK)
It was from that original, albeit misguided and manipulative partnership, when the actual details about how to create the social surveillance state was first tested. Everything after those events more than a decade ago, has been this rapidly evolving blend of social media technology and the capacity of the U.S. intelligence apparatus to create and fund the underlying structures.
Daily, we see numerous examples of the ideological control that surfaces as a direct result of this public-private partnership, the closed-conversations between deep government interests (the Fourth Branch) and social media companies which are dependent on the subsidized technology for them to exist.
Perhaps 2022 represents the first time the commonsense of the American electorate begins to recognize the fallacy of the ‘free coffee’ business model. Personally, I am very optimistic people will soon recognize what many have suspected for a long time.
Ultimately the question becomes, how far will the U.S. Fourth Branch of Government go to stop people from understanding?
Marc Andreessen believes Govt and Big Tech will double, triple and quadruple down to keep their public-private partnership, the backbone of the Free Coffee Shop, hidden. I cannot say I disagree, because ultimately it is still only the minority of people who understand the stakes. However, on the upside, the number of people who are starting to understand it, is growing almost exponentially thanks to Elon Musk.
This is one of those situations where we should all welcome being called ‘conspiracy theorists’, because no matter how big the crowd is that refuses to believe it, ultimately the impossible business model of Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop will reveal everything.
That’s why the public-private partnership must stop Elon Musk. As the Washington Post noted, this level of revelation “cannot be compared to anything that has ever existed.”
“Very shadowy” indeed.
What are they hiding? Isn’t the Washington Post is a tool for the Left/Deep State, or did I miss something?
Bezo’s – so yes its Intel.
Non Official Cover – N O C
But it’s just ginger-peachy for Bezos to own WaPo.
“It would leave Musk, like Zuckerberg, with an amount of assembled data about people and the ability to use it to manipulate them “that cannot be compared to anything that has ever existed, and allows intervention into the integrity of individual behavior and also the integrity of collective behavior.”
WE’RE the only ones allowed to do that
— signed, The Intelligence Community
hey! give that person another fake like (edit – via the alogorithm to trick people into thinking they are getting legit interaction for a LIVE HUMAN), or retweet – to keep their behaviour checking in daily. so we can utilize the trending to shape thought impression
You beat me to it-I was going to say “Signed The NSA”
NO no no,WE HAVE A ‘FREE’ PRESS in the US that is vital to our democracy(DS)
Wapo is a CIA mouthpiece.
Amazing. The billionaire that owns the Post also owns Amazon. Amazon Web Services (AWS) is probably the biggest cloud hosting entity in the world. Government agencies are greatly expanding their use of AWS to host government systems. I would bet Amazon has as much control over information as FB and google. Guarantee the IC, the federal government and Amazon are almost one.
Bezos, The Beast.
Yes they are, I work in the fringes of it.
People don’t understand how powerful data is.
Precisely, that’s why Amazon project “Sidewalk” competes with Google`s project “Jigsaw “.
Another thought about Elon. Some commenters wonder how he can make this financially viable. Remember, his business model is to use government to fund his operations. Carbon credits for Tesla were a huge portion of his top line revenue. Still are I would bet. He has government contracts to launch payloads into space. Buying twitter and its integration with the IC is another opportunity to scratch each other’s backs and be a financial opportunity. Knowing what’s under the cover is great leverage. That said, it will be interesting and fun to watch heads explode.
If it is ok for twitter to use gov funds, why not Musk.
True!
And when one of their own heavies goes rogue on them, well, there may not be a readily available algorithm to handle that kind of challenge without themselves being scorched to death by the ensuing inferno.
We saw a little bit of that in this CTH post as WAPO jumped on the issue of oligarchs, money and big data and needed to out FB, Deep State, AND, IMPORTANTLY, THEMSELVES in the process.
Time to extend the Dark Net.
Do not use DNS.
Use IP addresses.
Use encryption.
Use the Tor Browser as much as possible.
Maybe realize you don’t need an HTML browser to send information.
Go back to SSH, Command Line Interface (CLI)… remember rn (newsreader) in Unix machines?
Remember, it is text that matter.. you can transfer video and pictures as well.
The mechanism is simple. Have a rotating, shifting number of IP addresses. Do not connect to the same one. Physically, move those servers all over the place. Keep moving them. That keeps the ISP from filtering them.
You could do Internet Address “searching” servers, not html based web browsers.
The Dark Net is simply the Internet as it was back in 92, and it worked fine for us. It will work great for you too. You just might have to learn about it.
is russia doing a different internet ? and how? cause they are
Plz remember some of us have no idea what you’re saying.
How about this – only use your phone as a phone. Keep your internet usage to a bare minimum. Buy local. Pay cash. It’s not that hard.
Many people where I live go to the library because they cannot get internet where they live, some can’t get cell service.
But they’re shutting down libraries as much as they can.
IMO, keep the NOC for purposeful disinformation and use alternate channels as you outlined. I got in a bit late, touched it in the 70’s in engineering school but didn’t really use the commercial internet until the early 90’s, mostly NNTP. When HTML became popular I coded my business web site in it and it remains out there today in crude HTML, a reminder of how things once were.
PDJT was savvy about alternate means. That was one thing, of many, I liked about him.
.gov has backdoors into TOR
I use too many sites to go old school again. I have enough trouble with every business wanting a password and logon.
I even digitally signed all my RE documents for the home I bought last year. Reams of paper involved.
Even with all the automation, my inspection reports were put in my promotions instead of my regular inbox and I had to hunt them down.
Oh the good days. But wasn’t the W3 browser so cool when it came out?
The left is terrified the videos showing their depravity will be on the web without any chance to delete or stop them.
It is becoming abundantly clear just how much all of the world is herded, controlled, manipulated, groomed, and brainwashed by the MSM and by extension social media companies.
The US government lost some control over the people with the rise of the internet and alternative sources for information and went to work on regaining complete control over what is allowed to be discussed or spoken on.
This could only be planned and accomplished by the rogue CIA and intelligence agencies.
I never thought in my lifetime that I would see a political party (really – BOTH of them), 99% of the Federal bureaucracy and most of the mainstream FEARFUL OF THE TRUTH.
they did some bad things in the shadow with the belief it would never arise to the surface.
terrified. terrifed. terrifed. they will not face hangings. they may be quartered.
they’ll skate……..
if courts are the verdict.
We can dream, so far they haven’t taken that from us, yet. The movies and books tend to predict things, the movie Dreamscape w/Dennis Quaid comes to mind. Old, but good movie.
Basically, only certain preapproved “people” are allowed to be in the club. Bezos, gates , Zuckerberg, dod, cia, other dems. A. After DJT won in 2016, TPTB mostly blamed Zuckerberg. He comes up with the 350million and all the other help from Mitch,Barr, DOD, and whatever else they had to do , but could not allow a rechecking of the ballots. No one has ever answered that q? . Who ordered the stopping of ballot counting and in what world does millions of votes come in for 1 candidate after getting crushed be the counting stopped. If it doesn’t make sense it normally isn’t true.
The New Mexico Secretary of State who was serving as president of the org of Secretaries of State probably gave the order to stop the vote count. She had predicted doing it, previously in a pre election meeting which you can find on YouTube.
I have no idea why this wasn’t the principal issue the trump team addressed after election. Vote count stoppage violates the election laws of the swing states either explicitly or implicitly. All counting done post stoppage was void.
Actually I do have an idea but whatever.
Ask yourself–who Was the “Trump team” anyway? Barr? Pence? Meadows?
None of them wanted a second term. It was an inside job and Republican driven.
The only loyal person I can think of is Dan Scavino.
Can probably add Stephen Miller to that list. I would say Bannon and Navarro as well.
Ty.
They got away with it the last time so LOOK OUT for the next ones!
“The government will one day be corrupt and filled with liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth.” – Thomas Jefferson
I am waiting for the people to start taking flight………………
“Tell the truth.”
So Musk’s control of Twitter is… incompatible with democracy? It’s become apparent that “democracy” comes in at least two flavors: the type created by our founders vs the so-called democracy controlled by tyrants.
If you believe our founders created a democracy, you’re part of the problem.
They abhorred the concept of “democracy” (mob rule) and instituted a Constitutional Republic.
Maybe read some history books.
Who cares now? The elected ones are the problem. I would side with a second amendment “mob” over any of these bloodsuckers in government.
Sigh. I was going to ask that please no one lecture me on democracy vs constitutional republic and now I’m sorry I didn’t include that bit. Maybe you should read the post in the spirit in which it was written and not obsess over the specific language—language I was just quoting back from above.
And don’t ever call me part of the problem again, unless it’s a problem you’re looking to have.
They sling the word democracy around worse than a hired hand slinging horse manure for a rich woman. It drives me nuts, even Jim Jordan is using the term now. I had to call and complain.
By “democracy” they mean “our democracy” aka the ongoing coup. Musk controlling Twitter and people being allowed to speak freely will crash the whole edifice of the coup.
Bezos – owns massive logistical data worldwide on humans = non issue
Elon = issue
Bezos = Intel. that dumbass cant make a company. his wife was his warning. look at her image.
It is my firm belief, and I’ve posted this for years, that all big tech has been in bed with the IC since their inceptions. None of the people who supposedly founded any of these social media companies comes close to having what it takes to get them off the ground. They made a deal with the devil.
then Intel needs to be exposed as either a servant of the people or a treasonous subvertor.
When you look at Zuckerberg, do you see a genius? A visionary and inspiration of the people? Most people you ask consider him detestable. He’s a willing partner, a shill for the Big Guys. He’s nothing.
I’m starting to believe all the social media platforms were started as a way to get enough data on us to exert voting influence and ultimate control. Bad things being uncovered, very bad things.
Lifelog (DARPA) converted to Facebook. Check date Lifelog closed and Facebook went public.
DARPA has been around a couple decades. I remember DARPA net, that’s on Win95/98.
It’s good that Musk seems to be challenging the status quo, but I find it a bit disconcerting that we’ve placed all this trust in the CEO of a company that launches U.S. spy satellites into orbit.
Good to see a jr. member get hit tonight, Reed Hastings of Netflix. 25% of value lost tonight, over 40 billion. Even they hurt shareholders to be a standing member in the club. They canceled over 700, 000 members from Russia. So because Putin evades Ukraine, their citizens lose their netflix memberships.!!!
Next they’ll try to convince us that the MaObamas sold off their big investment in Netflix . . . last week . . . before its stock crashed & burned?
They get paid because they are such great producers and filmmakers. Lol. Around 50 million. The stock is like an extra bonus
Yes, heartwarming !
mutual goals is why elon and thiel are favored at this time.
they realize the first company to dominate a market – buys the politicians, gets the regulations to prevent others from catching up – and they stall all other competing technoligies to profit until they die.
Thiel and Elon want to build – so they overthrew the fake government
they said this book was their philosophy
Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop is an absolutely brilliant analogy!
Shadowy is also quite apropos, considering this is a Derp State Shadow Government affair.
To the Moon, Elon! Send ’em to the Moon!!
dont forget Elon’s upside down smiley about the prince owning twitter stock. mr. tied upside down and punished in the hotel room then made to sleep on the floor with the rest of the “princes”
(day after las vegas shooting_)
Ha! I love it!
FL. will be taking look at Board of Twit, since it holds shares.
Dang, he is good. I have to also give credit to his staff and those he surrounds himself with. He isn’t doing it all alone.
“Staff IS corporate culture & policy”
Can the government LEGALLY buy the information that Google and Twitter and Facebook collect on people?
I think they can, but I am wondering if any of you legal eagles has ever researched that question. Perhaps this is the database Maxine Waters was talking about. Someone, somewhere is administering, FOR THE GOVERNMENT, a database on all of the publicly available information that can be bought.
Think about that for a few moments. Then some things really begin to make sense.
Then ask yourself:
Lots of questions. And finally:
NO
which is the panic.
and they most likely are not purchasing. they own it
The deal is very simple: the government provides the servers and mega-data infrastructure to Big Tech at minimal to no cost, and in return, the government gets to access the data for Psy-Ops purposes.
and the smithmundt act reversal makes this legal?
What’s legal? (answer: whatever the regime or its acolytes and toadies says is legal).
It is called the Hammer, it is located in an NSA facility in Ft. Washington MD. It was set up by John Brennan and Clapper, with hardware provided by Robert Mueller’s FBI, by the direction of Pres. Obama. It is completely illegal and that is why they are panicking.
🧐…remember when maxine watters talked about a database being put in place, the likes of which had never been seen before in life? (Her paraphrased words in 2013.)
Yup, the Achilles’ heel of the globalists is their massive “databases.”
Globalists can’t control you without their massive “databases.”
Without their huge databases, they are just a small group of rich commies. who are sitting around in their gated villas counting their ill-gotten gains.
Pull the plug on the globalists/ coup plotter’s massive databases and set the world free……. it is that simple…… it truly is the Achilles’ heel of the globalists and the coup plotters, both foreign and domestic……… including the alpha deep swamp.
And to find out, we, the people, have been funding the infrastructure.
Time to drive home the destruction of all the massive data bases.
Time to go back to dis-jointed files……. they work just fine for freedom.
All we need is a good Carrington Event !
The massive databases were built on our nickel, we can tear them down the same way.
No time to waste.
Can’t be done. That data exists now on a special block chain. Did you ever browse your user directory in windoze and noticed those funny little files names made up of funny little alpha numeric characters? You add in punctuation characters and you have a block chain that makes sha256 (Bitcoin) look like a joke. As an example one of those names could represent the site you visited, date, ip address, content displayed by the web site, etc,etc,etc. All you need is the key! Ah the search for primes.
This technique is so powerful that you can take a snapshot in time of a computer system and represent it as a say, 512 bit alpha numeric symbol character. That’s all the files on the computer. All you need is the key.
Every new user costs Twitter money. They’re losing at least $7 Billion a year. Who can afford that?
A: People who own printing presses and mints.
17 Intelligence Agencies Agree– Again!
Glenn Greenwald:
Half of the Twitter links in my blogrolls have been cancelled by the Regime. And as we know, they don’t cancel you for lying; they cancel you for telling the truth. I felt bad about deleting the links, but I don’t want to send people to a dead link. So I try to find their new platforms.
Many tweeters are threatening to leave if Musk gains ownership. “My arguments are so weak and unpopular they can’t possibly survive unless Twitter censors my opponents for me!”
But Free Speech issues are almost beside the point.
I’ve often compared this functional fascism to Hitchcock’s “Strangers on a Train”, where criminals swap crimes to provide each other’s alibis. Social Media does the Regime’s illegal censorship while the Regime ignores the anti-trust crimes, privacy violations and business fraud perpetrated by Big Tech.
But now we see that Big Tech and Big Occupation Government are actually ONE AND THE SAME. There is only on Stranger on this Train.
Sure, they have well-paid beards to make it seem otherwise, but when the Alphabet Agencies underwrite the operation of these platforms, it becomes a Wizard of Oz farce, a “No Yellow!” Brick-masquerade where all roads lead to D.C..
That means that the workaday censorship of dissidents is Government Censorship and a criminal violation of Civil Rights under Color of Authority.
When a Twitter Mob descends on a victim, that is a Digital Brownshirt Mob facilitated, encouraged and sent by the Powers That Be.
Just one more Kristallnacht Caboose on Jefferson’s Long Train of Abuses.
“No, Chief; I said “Cone of Silence“, not “Cone of Silencing“!”
Rest in the Vine: Twitter, Facebook & Google = DARPA, NSA, CIA, ETC.
Chaos and Control.
“we will discover the inflection moment for the merge of U.S. Deep State (intel community) and U.S. Social Media, will be identified in the early moments of the Arab Spring of 2010/2011. That was when Facebook and Twitter became tools for the State Dept operation in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Bahrain and beyond. ”
May be just coincidence but Tucker Carlson had a segment last night that tracked the beginning of the “racist ” labels began around 2010 also. Seems the Obama years were great for The Deep State.
Time to throw that word in the trash. Nobody cares any more about “racist”–it means nothing these days. “YOU are RACIST against geys! YOU are RACIST against Ukrainians! YOU are RACIST against trans-people!” Only thing is, none of these groups are “races” (whatever that means–humans interbreed, so we are not different “races” but different “breeds”–like horses and cats and dogs of different breeds can interbreed. Goldendoodles are a prime and very popular example of different breeds of dog combining and creating a new dog breed.)
Reminiscent of the attacks on Candidate and then President Donald J. Trump. He must be stopped at all costs.
I don’t trust any of them including Musk..I hope he is sincere but seeing his interviews on trans humanism..I am not going to say..I trust him anymore than the rest..I hope he is..straight up honest in this..but I am not so sure….Bots to take over our jobs..chips..in people’s brains..I get the ones where someone has a disease that prevents them from being able to speak and move..like with ALS..but he isn’t just talking about that ..He wants a virtual reality..world..
https://t.me/Forecast432Hz/4217
5 of 11 Twitter Board members are connected to Klaus Schawb’s World Economic Forum.
This explains… a lot.
To take a page out of President’s Reagan’s history:
On the first day of President Trump being certified as the winner of the 2020 election,
“President Trump, tear down those massive databases”, the American People.
the same second we flattened every other countries databases.
Thank you Sundance for your bright light on the edge of darkness.
It will eventually drain enough to reveal fraudulent electioneering. Then the true weight of the WAPO claim will be understood.
Interesting how WaPo paired Musk with Zuckerberg and then threw them under the same bus. Is this a foreshadowing of putting the albatross that is the 2020 election fraud around Zuckerberg’s neck?
I was naively thinking in 2016 that President Donald Trump would go in and take they reigns of the intelligence agencies and begin to expose the truth of our corrupt institutions and people. I dreamed of information on the podestas and breitbart and jfk and Hilary and on and Brennan and McConnell and drug running and corruption amd blackmail of all sorts. Maybe we’d see how Paul Ryan or Tom Cotten or Linda graham were co-opted. Etc etc etc
But now I know that it was inevitable that the 3 letter agencies and bureaucrats and gloabalist and dark forces and evil spirits and Satan have a tremendous foothold on us.
Pray hard we are in amazing times. I pray God will expose the truth and throw the wicked into confusion and He would strengthen any who have a shred of righteousness.
We need the full expose of truth
Catholic prophecy has several sources over the centuries referring to a “3 Days of Darkness” event when world totalitarianism / war looks worst.Many sites deal with it, look for visionaries or saints approved by the Church. Disregard the others.
I read about this years ago. I still have the holy water and beeswax candles. I have shades for the windows as well. What I worry about are my animals. I can’t bring two horses and 25 hens into my house.
Bring them inside! 🙂
Do they have no sense of irony?
Honestly, this is not what’s being made of it… If you wanna extract and manipulate data from Twitter just sign up to their partnership program. You can do it all day long if you wish.
No conspiracy required, it’s part of their business model.
Never fails when they are flailing and flopping they use the word democracy. I get tired of it, like they care about democracy, or our REPUBLIC.
Surprisingly, because never thought about him one way or the other, but am adding Mr. Musk and his family to the prayer list for continual protection, safety, and guidance. The same original reason we pray for Donald Trump and his family, because he fights.
We need all the fighters we can get.
The first time that I heard about the US government and Big Tech working together to bring forth regime change abroad, was in 2009, during the so called ‘Green’ or ‘Student’ Revolution in Iran. Before that, Radio B54 as it operated in Belgrade during the last war against Serbia, was considered to be the ‘golden standard’ for fomenting color revolutions worldwide, imho.
Careful Sundance, you’re almost sounding like you support Q theory. Who would have thought a few years ago that some of those theories would prove to be reality.
Since we are talking of shadowy players, it seems that there has been a hidden hand forcing some disclosures that otherwise would be buried to protect the IC. The question is, who is controlling and forcing those releases?
I have a theory there. A worse actor pushing these from behind is doing this. Can’t you see the shadowy outline of some dread cabal behind this take down of the USA? You can almost get a sense of it, but not quite. It lurks there in the darkness, working its evil against this great nation.
The hypocricy would be hysterical were it not so evil.
Purchased for the sole purpose of destroying the REAL President ,Donald J. Trump .
“Reported” nothing but LIES, LIES & more LIES.
Disgusting………
“Very shadowy”, whom does that describe? If you had to name one person, who would it be? George Soros. Arab spring certainly fits his MO of creating uprisings, with regime changes.
As I read this, after having digested the ‘go deep’ article from some days ago about how Twitter MUST use government servers, etc., in order to exist, I wonder: While this situation with Musk may very well disclose the relationship between government, surveillance and ‘free coffee’, will that disclosure necessitate the introduction of the ID/log in feature for ALL internet access, as has already been discussed? In other words, is Musk the ‘good guy’ here, in that he is revealing what is actually behind social media? Or is he a ‘bad guy’ whose actions push forward the end of internet anonymity???
Obozo wanted to introduce that single log-in at one point. You know it never went away. And with the overt push for “social credit scores” a single-point log-in would be necessary to capture your entire browsing session for evaluation against WOKE.
If the WaPo is against it, I am for it!
Put another way, can we say that the Intelligence Community does not like competition?
WaPo states the reason behind social media out loud:
an amount of assembled data about people and the ability to use it to manipulate them “that cannot be compared to anything that has ever existed, and allows intervention into the integrity of individual behavior and also the integrity of collective behavior.
Which is exactly what the ugly little gnome second in command to that bald mug Schwab wants to do–hackable humans. These people are infinitely evil.