Pentagon Spokesperson John Kirby stated in this interview that “no U.S. service members were killed in the attack” that took place near the Ukraine-Poland border in the town of Lviv. However, it is important to qualify that government “contractors” are often used in these Military training centers.
The military compound in Lviv, which is only 15 miles from the border with Poland, was being used as a military “training facility” for Ukrainian forces. Knowing the U.S. and NATO were funneling weapons into Ukraine through this specific region, it stands to reason this “training facility” was targeted by Russia specifically because it was a weapons cache for arms flowing into Ukraine.
John Kirby appeared on ABC shortly after the compound targeting was public. WATCH:
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(WaPo) […] On Sunday, Russia’s Ministry of Defense issued a statement that was at odds with the Ukrainian account and threatened more such attacks. “At these facilities, the Kyiv regime deployed a training center for foreign mercenaries before being sent to the areas of hostilities against Russian military personnel, as well as a storage base for weapons and equipment coming from foreign countries,” the statement said. (link)
Aftermath of Yavoriv training center strike pic.twitter.com/pktJfggNfy
— Michael Kofman (@KofmanMichael) March 13, 2022
The [Lviv] facility is indeed the “main training center where U.S. and Canadian troops have been working with our Ukrainian partners for the last 6-7 years,” retired Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, who served as commander of U.S. Army Europe during the Obama and Trump administrations, said via text.
Mark Felton put up a essay on if U.K. could stop a Russian conventional attack of the British Isles – the answer was ‘No’. The U.K. has severely cut back on it’s national defense capability over the years, and yet I believe they are supposed to be one of the more capable NATO members. NATO knowingly, and with at least complicity from America, became an expensive protectorate of America. Hence all the American foolishness going on. The American people never asked for any of this – President Trump understood this.
Foreigners who volunteered where being housed there. On the ground level it’s just stupid kids in a barracks probably all tweeting or whatever with no real clue about war. Then reality hits.
People, not just kids, who thought actual war would be like a computer game played in the woods. Almost out on a hunt, but in this case the hunted are better prepared and armed than the hunters.
Even trained NATO military personnel have been stunned, from their tweets, at the reality of being under attack from a real enemy , with OMG artillery!!!, which for example the Taliban never had, completely exposed with no Combat Air Support to arrive just in time. A novel and, in many cases, fatal experience.
This crazy encouragement of volunteers into an almost certain death or injury (no POW rights either) is a terrible reflection on our leaders.
The phrase cannon fodder is taking on a whole new meaning.
Ah, yeah, alas it is all part of the narrative building. Look at these poor, poor IDEALISTIC young people from all over the world, they ‘came to defend Ukraine and our (the West’s) way of life’ and now they’ve been senselessly attacked while defenseless…. It is incredible that people, even military personnel, think they should always be beyond danger in a war as long as they are not on a front line. You are a soldier, this is a war – ergo, you are always a target.
This reminds me also of the navy seal cry-babies who testified (I believe LIED) against Eddy Gallagher because he dared to wanna send them towards the enemy.
I’ve said that for the last two decades, that the reason so many of our young men (and now women) return from the wars damaged beyond repair is because they’ve been utterly unprepared psychologically for what a war really is.
I would not bet against Russian artillery. Their training is top-notch.
No, this is its original meaning.
Field artillery, aka the king of battle, has been neglected by the US military for quite some time now. The standard HE 155mm round is still a fearsome and cost effective weapon. And a tip to any bullies out there that might pick a fight with an arty cannoneer….don’t do it. After a year or so in that MOS, they tend to be muscled up from lugging 100# rounds and swinging shovels and pickaxes. Go red legs!!!
Almost could call it “Western Jihad” couldn’t we?
In fantasy vs. reality, reality always wins.
All NATO countries including the US have spent the last 30 years optimising their militaries to fight 2nd and 3rd rate powers. Then along comes a 1st rate power, who has spent the same time getting ready to defend against a 1st rate power, and they have little to respond with.
The UK might be an island but virtually nothing has been spent on ‘homeland’ defence for 50 years. Knock out 6 air bases and we are helpless.
Russia isn’t going to attack the UK unless they attack him first.
Yes. The concern is that America/NATO attack Russia in Ukraine. Then U.K. is exposed to conventional attack by Russia.
Mark Felton is the best.
even in depth defenses can be overwhelmed by sheer numbers – you can concentrate say 100 SAMs but they would be overwhelmed by 200 ASMs. It’s about the numbers.
Anyone believe weak Biden Cabinet wouldn’t put forth anything the Admin wanted them too?
The smart people are all behind the scenes pulling the strings.
Can’t imagine anyone on his team who speaks publicly would say “I can’t say that”.
Lviv is struck then a “NY Times reporter”, who has not worked for the Times since 2015 is announced dead. They then fake an interview with his partner who has a story that does not make sense. Now they can claim no American died in that Airstrike. Suspicious.
And shot in the back of the head from ‘friendly fire’ from Ukrainians.
Eyes on Kherson, specifically, on nearby Oleshky Sands and what comes up there. When it does, we’ll be seeing this smug A-hole Kirby having to clean a load out of his pants. Did I say I can’t stand this guy? Justice is served when lying sacks o’ tish like this get the beatings they deserve.
People like Kirby are incredibly dangerous to the well being of America – it’s all politics to them.
Why go fight tyrant five thousand miles away in Ukraine? When we have tyrant only three hundred away in DC?
“Pentagon Spokesperson John Kirby stated in this interview that “no U.S. service members were killed in the attack” that took place near the Ukraine-Poland border in the town of Lviv. However, it is important to qualify that government “contractors” are often used in these Military training centers.” – Sundance
He immediately said in that same sentence “no Americans” were killed. But he’s lying, of course.
Forumla for winning/losing this war:
https://thesaker.is/amateurs-think-strategy-generals-think-logistics-or-why-ukraine-is-doomed/
Kirby’s facial expressions are revealing that he is lying when asked the questions.
I thought the same. I’m sure China, and possibly Russia, have mapped Kirby’s facial expressions to lies in AI recognition software and can read him pretty good.
Kirby is one among many pathological liars.
Pure unadulterated EVIL.
Near the Ukraine-Poland border in the town of Lviv? Wow! Not even a close proximity to the truth. Lviv isn’t a “town” but the 6th largest CITY in Ukraine with a population of over 700,000. That isn’t a “town”. Lviv is a Ukrainian city that sits just over 30 miles from the closest Polish border.
But as the Pentagon’s propaganda commissar Kirby said, there’s little reason for the United States to insert itself as a protagonist where two nuclear forces might clash. No, best to send covert American contractors and high end offensive weapons instead. You know, to keep it on the down low.
If you’re stupid enough to believe that one then I also believe it’s time for your 4th and 5th booster injection of gene editing mRNA too. You know, just to be “safe”. Got to keep stacking those bodies up and what better way to do so then to create reasons for nuclear detonations on your own cities? Am I right? That would seem to be their plan now. Phase one didn’t succeed in the desired outcome, so maybe phase two will do the trick.
Witness the death of a “narrative”. For decades our Corporate News and elected politicians told us “beware of the Russians.” As it turns out, the Russians have no greater military capability then the Ukrainian militia. Less, when you factor in the rudimentary weapons the West is supplying Ukraine. I imagine the Russian nuclear capability, its ICBM’s, are in a similar state of disrepair and obsolescence. Why would they not be?
In the meanwhile the real threat, China, is purposely being ignored. It’s fairly common knowledge that these same politicians, who loudly cried “Russia!”, are actually on the CCP payroll. Not just Hunter and not just Democrats, the bribery is pervasive in DC.
It seems Trump (along with Pompeo) was right again.
I had heard in the early days of launching satellites that the Russians repurposed some of their old missile systems to put satellites up in space. Anyone else hear that?
Curious on what basis you assess that “Russians have no greater military capability then the Ukranian militia”?
Three weeks of insufferably poor results.
“If Putin is successful in taking over Ukraine…it’s a direct reflection on the Obama administration, because it should of never happened.” – Donald J. Trump March 9, 2022, Full Send Podcast
-How Soros’s Secret Network Used Ukraine to Cover for Hillary, Hunter, and Target Donald Trump (2014)
thenationalpulse.com/2021/11/05/excerpt-how-soross-secret-network-used-ukraine-to-cover-for-hillary-hunter-and-target-donald-trump/
-Canada’s Operation UNIFIER starts in Ukraine (2015-present)
canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/reports-publications/transition-materials/caf-operations-activities/2020/03/caf-ops-activities/op-unifier-ukraine.html
-Allegations of Canadian troops training neo-Nazis and war criminals sparks military review (2021)
ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/allegations-of-canadian-troops-training-neo-nazis-and-war-criminals-sparks-military-review/wcm/de412654-e732-4e39-a983-ec727ffb6964/amp/
that took place near the Ukraine-Poland border in the town of Lviv.
Lviv population is north of 700,000 hardly a town.
A more accurate location of attacked site is better described as some 20 miles West of Lviv and some 15miles from Polish border.
My previous post must have went to the bin. Folks remember that Romney’s guy was Cofer Black, “flies on the eyeballs guy”
On April 26, 2007, Black was chosen by Mitt Romney to head a campaign counter-terrorism policy advisory group during the Republican‘s 2008 U.S. presidential campaign.[
In October 2011, Black was chosen by Romney to serve as “Special Adviser” on all foreign policy issues during his 2012 presidential campaign.
Burisma Board connection:
In February 2017, the Ukrainian oil and gas corporation Burisma announced the addition of Black to the company’s board of directors, leading the company’s security and strategic development efforts.
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Black was hired six months after Hunter Biden had departed the board
Black remains a member of the Burisma board as of February 2021.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cofer_Black
What’s really bad is that this may give the bad actors (China) reason to believe that the U.S. has this same level of disconnect and that we therefore may be ripe for the big one.
Initially, that may even be true but long term no way. Such a false sense of strategic advantage could easily lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths.
When China takes Taiwan, you will likely hear the same from Biden, Romey, Graham, McConnell, etc as you heard when Hong Kong was crushed – cricketts. Some have suggested the chest thumping about Ukraine is to soften the blow when nothing is done for Taiwan.
Interesting
Barron’s reported:
Russia on Saturday said its troops could target supplies of Western weapons in Ukraine, where the Russian army has been advancing since late February. “We warned the United States that the orchestrated pumping of weapons from a number of countries is not just a dangerous move, it is a move that turns these convoys into legitimate targets,” Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told state television. He said Moscow had warned “about the consequences of the thoughtless transfer to Ukraine of weapons like man-portable air defence systems, anti-tank missile systems and so on.” Ryabkov said Washington had not taken Moscow’s warnings seriously and added that Russia and the US were not holding any “negotiation processes” on Ukraine.[1]
China amplifies unsupported Russian claim of Ukraine biolabs
By DAVID RISINGMarch 11, 2022
The Russian ministry also said that it had received documentation from employees at Ukrainian Biolabs, which confirmed urgent destruction of dangerous pathogens. The allegations were quickly amplified by Russia’s ally China. According to Hindustan Times report, China’s UN Ambassador Zhang Jun expressed concern at Russia’s accusations and called for an investigation to “provide a comprehensive clarification and accept a multilateral verification.”
The US has responded to claims by Russia, reiterating Washington’s position that Ukraine does not have a biological weapons program or such laboratories supported by the United States. US envoy to UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield said it was Russia that could use chemical or biological agents in Ukraine. “The intent behind these lies seems clear, and is deeply troubling,” she said. “We believe Russia could use chemical or biological agents for assassinations, as part of a staged or false-flag incident, or to support a tactical military operation.[2]
Biden pentagon funded Ukraine biological weapon lab 3-12-22
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rVsXMZFOOzkM/
1 https[Colon]//www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/russia-warns-start-targeting-western-arms-convoys-entering-ukraine/
2 https[Colon]://www.livemint.com/
Propaganda, Ukraine, Russia, and the USA… what to believe?
https://rumble.com/vxdmhe-tipping-point-pedro-gonzalez-controlling-the-narrative.html
Apparently, there were a ton of Reddit retards that thought they could just walk into a war zone and be effective and useful.
https://www.reddit.com/r/volunteersForUkraine/
Joy.
Seems to me that they showed an extreme lack of preparation not having scouts, drones and security patrols out far enough to detect any forces making an approach. And certainly weren’t prepared to quickly do some counter battery fire if an attack succeeded to any degree. Either way they either weren’t prepared on purpose or were lead poorly by not being prepared at all.
This does not bode well for the future of any anti russian forces.
Why do you think Victoria Nuland went to Ukraine in 2014? That was all about preparations for the US/NATO Propagandizing Russia because the US’ Controllers Want Russia’s Resouurces & Ukraine’s, too! They didn’t get very far except to install a US puppet & the Crimea takeaway; so, up the ante & make sure the Ukrainian military is well-trained by US forces, to be utilized in this Agenda. Send weapons/artillery & then, put outa search for civilians in the US who’ve been thoroughly-brainwashed, to go to Ukraine! Now, add Poland to the mix! If people can’t see, or don’t want to see, this Agenda for exactly what it is, they don’t want to face reality!
Is Kirby the slimiest creature on TV? I vote “Yes.”
It appears that the attack on Lviv has demoralized the volunteers who went to fight for Ukraine. One posted a missive on Reddit that was shared on The American Conservative. He said he was fed up and leaving and indicated that others were too. Here is the post:
“If you think I’m a Russian agent you’re just in denial that the situation is absolutely fuhcked. Go ahead and join the legion, by all means, but be very aware of how bad Kyiv is going to get and be aware the Russians have warplanes and you will have next to nothing. Be very acceptant of the possibility of death.
“I was there today and blown off the top bunk in the barracks by the first missile. The base is destroyed, the weapons depot destroyed, possibly the end of the legion. They’re sending untrained guys to the front with little ammo and shiht AKs and they’re getting killed.
“If you still want to join them I’m not sure what the process will be since literally all the infrastructure supporting the training is all destroyed. The guys who are there now will all be going to Kyiv and many will die, the legion is totally outgunned and has a few crazy Ukrainian leaders. After the attack one officer wanted to march everyone to Kyiv and fight. Absolute insanity. Stay home.
“You quickly realize the preciousness and desire of life compared to the meaninglessness of being hit by a fuhcking Russian missile.
“Like a lot of dudes there have experience and really wanted to shape the battlefield, but ultimately they’re manning frontline positions that are going to get hammered with artillery and airstrikes, buried under rubble and your family never gets your body.”
Question: What did the volunteers expect when joining an outgunned army?
“Being able to patrol, set up ambushes, have artillery support, go on offensives to take back captured towns. Definitely not sitting around getting blasted.”
“When leadership is not providing necessary equipment or making sound tactical decisions – it’s time to move on because you’ve got to at least give yourself a chance.”
“The training was apparently 2 weeks, then 10 days and now I think they’re just sending everyone to the front since the base is demolished.”
Raddatz is a progandista, a war monger!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/here-are-all-latest-news-and-developments-ukraine-war-march-14
See zero hedge for updates on Russia /China
Also of interest is that both Chinese and Iranian foreign ministers will be in Moscow tomorrow.
the attack was reported as conducted by long range RUS aircraft launching cruise missiles from the Black Sea area. Look at the map — wonder of the missiles flew through Romanian airspace.