CTH is just presenting data without too much interpretation on this study, because it could be analyzed two separate ways.
A Denmark study of vaccine effectiveness (VE) to “prevent infection“, and that’s a key point, shows both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine benefits essentially disappear after 90 days to six months. [Study pdf Here] Now, some people are interpreting the bottom line result to say the vaccine makes you more susceptible to Omicron variant infection after the 150 day point [SEE HERE]. However, I’m not sure that’s the key takeaway.
The data does show that during the 91 to 150 day waning period of vaccine effectiveness, the vaccinated group who used Pfizer were 76.5% more likely to be infected with a variant versus the unvaccinated population. And the vaccinated group who used Moderna were 39.3% more likely to be infected with a variant versus the unvaccinated population. [Note, all natural immunity groups (previously infected) were removed from the study]
Yes, the study shows the vaccinated groups are more likely to be infected with Omicron than the unvaccinated population.
However, ¹if the Pfizer vaccinated group within the total population is at or near 76%, and ¹if the Moderna vaccinated group within the total population is at or near 39%, then what this Denmark study actually shows is a non-existent benefit from vaccination toward the Omicron variant. Not, and I repeat NOT, a finding that the vaccination itself makes you more prone to infection from Omicron.
What we need to know is how many people in the total population are vaccinated, AND what percentage of that total vaccinated population used Pfizer and Moderna.
If the total population Omicron infection rates for both Pfizer and Moderna groups mirror the vaccination rates for Pfizer and Moderna, then the vaccine effectiveness is nil for the prevention of Omicron infection. To me, that seems the most likely scenario.
The study conclusion is that booster shots are needed and provide essentially a 54.6% reduction in the risk of Omicron infection for Pfizer, and a (small sample) 82.8% reduction of the risk of Omicron infection for the Moderna group.
Obviously, more data is needed before this Denmark outcome can be accurately interpreted.
People are rightly worried that the vaccination itself might make you dependent on the vaccine forever. Heck, there are people within the British government saying exactly that in their booster ad campaigns (see poster left).
Additionally, does the vaccine itself make you more prone to infection from a variant that defeats the vaccine-specific immunity response. That’s the basic issue within Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE):
“In some cases, antibodies can enhance virus entry and replication in cells. This phenomenon is called antibody-dependent infection enhancement (ADE). ADE not only promotes the virus to be recognized by the target cell and enters the target cell, but also affects the signal transmission in the target cell.” (LINK)
Does the vaccine only target one version of the infection, and then allow other versions to avoid those vaccine antibodies, thus requiring ever continuing vaccinations that chase ever changing variants? So far, the answer appears to be yes.
That said, this issue of vaccine effectiveness against ‘infection‘ remains interesting and should be pursued. The reason is simple, if the vaccine does not prevent infection, then the premise of vaccine passports and/or vaccine mandates are moot.
Remove the ability of the vaccine to prevent infection, which seems brutally obvious at this point, and the only remaining benefit is one of medical outcome. Does the vaccine make you less likely to have a severe medical condition after you are infected?
When CTH originally started looking at hospitalization rates, what we found was that the percentage of the vaccinated population in the hospital requiring treatment was almost identical to the percentage of the surrounding overall population who were vaccinated. Ex. If the vaccination rate in the total population was 80%, the hospitalization rate for vaccinated individuals was essentially 80%. These reviews implied originally the vaccine was useless against severe outcomes requiring hospitalization.
All of the research essentially admits that both vaccinated and non-vaccinated people can be infected with COVID-19 and each variant of it. There is no vaccine value toward preventing infection. The issue is: does the vaccine immunity help you overcome the infection?
When you throw in the myriad of pre-existing conditions like obesity, diabetes and heart disease et al that make people more susceptible to any kind of respiratory infection, even without SARS-CoV-2 in the equation, then does all this vaccine chasing really amount to chasing severe cold and flu viruses with a vaccine regime?
The bottom line is that people need to make their own decisions based on their individual circumstances and everyone needs to respect those decisions. I doubt there is anyone choosing to make themselves more vulnerable with their vaccination decision.
Convincing an adult to do something is an endless quest, because it transfers outcome responsibility to the requester. The only dependency benefit in the convincing argument comes from the perspective of government. Politicians would like nothing more than for your outcome in life to be dependent on them. That’s also the scenario that abusers work diligently to construct.
When I see severe control demands and aspersions cast by who/what I define as an abuser, that flag tells me to exit.
Reading, investigating, and trying to make sense of all this data helps me to not concentrate on voting machines, organized voter fraud, or STOLEN ELECTIONS.
That’s the plan or one of many.
Funny – doesn’t help me with that at all.
Then again, 40 years in software taught me to multi-task. 😆
(Your point that it distracts sheeple is probably well taken – but here at CTH there are no sheeple.)
That’s another aspect of the virus: a drop in mental focus and failure in civic duty!
Only its worse than originally reported
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/addendumcorrection-to-danish-ve-data
What about J&J, a more traditional “dead vector” vaccine and not a experimental gene therapy? The government has been trying to disparage that vaccine from day one to get the mRNA vaccine in your arm for some reason. Why? J&J has recently begun fighting back.
NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J., July 1, 2021– Johnson & Johnson (NYSE: JNJ) (the Company) today announced data that demonstrated its single-shot COVID-19 vaccine generated strong, persistent activity against the rapidly spreading Delta variant and other highly prevalent SARS-CoV-2 viral variants. In addition, the data showed that the durability of the immune response lasted through at least eight months, the length of time evaluated to date.
“Today’s newly announced studies reinforce the ability of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine to help protect the health of people globally,” said Paul Stoffels, M.D., Vice Chairman of the Executive Committee and Chief Scientific Officer at Johnson & Johnson. “We believe that our vaccine offers durable protection against COVID-19 and elicits neutralizing activity against the Delta variant. This adds to the robust body of clinical data supporting our single-shot vaccine’s ability to protect against multiple variants of concern.”
I feel so sorry for this poor beleaguered pharmaceutical giant. /s
What are the raw numbers for all deaths from all causes? Have those numbers increased beyond any population increase? Easy numbers to verify, whereas all “covid” numbers are suspect because of the “narrative” don’t ya know.
Verboten!
These facts remain the same. There were no preclinical trials. None. Zero. Nil. Preclinical trials are imperative to safety prior to human introduction.
The clinical trial itself was aborted, like entering the Boston Marathon and riding a bike from checkpoint to checkpoint, jumping off beforehand, running through and jumping back on until the next checkpoint. In the FDA pipeline process leading to PDUFA, everything leading to each checkpoint is not just for efficacy but for safety.
In the absence of the above and because of the above, hundreds of millions of people are now part of an experiment that should have been performed on lab rats and, if proven safe with potential, over time to humans.
All of which was made possible by banning all known therapeutic drugs.
It was then deceitfully labeled a VACCINE which the aborted clinical trial data showed clearly, in ARR/NNV numbers, not to be capable of providing immunity.
The level of adverse effects is negligently inconsistent with safety standards of virtually any other drug brought to market in the past 40+ years,
While I admire the hell out of 45, he was duped. And if he can’t learn to admit and address his shortcomings, and being duped on the jab wasn’t his only, then he is likely incapable of growing to the next level.
I remain eternally grateful to him for exposing the breadth and depth of criminality of this government and always will be. For sacrificing himself, his family and large chunks of his fortune to try to save this country.
But this brew has the possibility of pure genocide as has been pointed out by many of the “previously” most revered medical doctors, scientists and virologists in the world.
Do I believe the jab has a place? As a preinfection treatment, not a vaccine, for the elderly with comorbidities, perhaps, based on its ability to reduce secondary infection in the lungs. But only there and only because, the other benign therapeutics are banned.
For Trump this should not be a political topic of fence straddling or saving face. Not when the potential for genocide exists and the signs have grown stronger, not weaker, in just the first year of usage. Only four to nine more years and we’ll have a clear understanding how bad or horrific this thing really is. But it will not prove to have been good. Not for the people who got it and not for the evolution of the virus itself.
I second that. Trump was duped. The elderly, the obese, and smokers should have been protected, the rest of us should have carried on.
Want to hamstring the USA in the future? There is a desk at the World Health Organization that has the key.
So yes, most of us were duped. Many of us, including myself, have had vaccines before, so it’s been acceptable. Yeah…I’m kicking myself. I even had the booster. Thing is, we know that Trump got covid and he was treated successfully with hydroxy-chloroquine and Ivermectin.
Thing is, the Globalists were evil enough to broad cast restrictions, as in what would be taken away from us if we weren’t vaxxed. Air travel, Ship cruises, eating at a restaurant etc. Thus the upcoming vaccine passports.
So all I will continue to do is take the specific vitamins for my immune system and of course no further booster shots of the vaccine.
Thanks for your post!
Well stated. If Trump doesn’t have the integrity to recognize that he was duped, and prove it, he has a huge blind spot that poses a significant risk to us.
Fabulous post! I agree with everything. Everything. And Missy makes an excellent additional point in her response.
Shhhh… You are making SENSIBLE OBSERVATIONS and asking the RIGHT QUESTIONS. You’re not supposed to be doing anything like that. Data is meant for “spinning!”
God gave us all we need in a robust immune system and natural remedies for every disease. Big pharma suppressed it and MSM is owned by those that own big pharma. Once you figure out the cycle – they get you sick and then magically have treatments to remedy your sickness – just think about it.
33 out of 34 hospitalized Omicron Patients in Delhi are FULLY VAXXED
India is only 40% vaccinated.
More evidence that the vaccinated is more susceptible to Omicron.
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/33-out-of-34-hospitalized-omicron
Why does it matter if anyone is susceptible to Omicron? No-one who is healthy enough to survive a common cold is going to die from Omicron.
None of this ‘79.6% of this’ and ‘39.6% of that’ matters. The ‘vaccines’ don’t matter. The ‘vaccines’ are not necessary. And why is that so? Because NOBODY dies from covid, unless their health is already so badly compromised that they cannot survive a bout of the flu. Stop chasing down the rabbit hole dissecting the minutae of the red-herrings.
We all know the old saw: people use stats as a drunk uses a lampost – for support rather than illumination.
Some thoughts to keep in mind:
Hate to say it; but, There is no illumination in your post
Can’t please everyone!
Check to see if the shade you are wearing needs to be adjusted.
Philip:
Manipulating the statistics to get the correct political result is the only objective. The monopoly of Media and the Internet is the rack upon which truth is stretched beyond it’s breaking point.
It is astounding to see how Western Governments went lockstep into Totalitarianism to deal with this China engineered blood bug.
Don’t know if I’ld use an extreme term like Totalitarianism; otherwise, I agree. Sorta, kinda like anthropogenic driven Climate Change policy – which has even less credibility for proposed climate “vax” solutions!
The bottom line is that people need to make their own decisions based on their individual circumstances and everyone needs to respect those decisions. I doubt there is anyone choosing to make themselves more vulnerable with their vaccination decision.
This is probably one of the most important paragraphs. People should be making their decisions, not others. The others can be not just the govt and their agencies, the entire control freaks starting with wh down. Others are those screaming karens of no celebrity and those other karens of the anti vax, holier than thou, tormentors who belittle the patriots who have made a decision. It is not our place to condemn the decisions of the individuals. Our individual medical decisions are not yours (public’s). The rebuking should be against the mandates, and lies. Many innocent people have fallen for lies…I am not talking about those with agenda of evil. We have enough information now to be confident of the truth. But always throwing shade at the patriots and those who are not part of the evilness is only causing the patriots to be split. That is how the enemy works.
I don’t disagree with your position. However, the response is “what if your decisions impact my and my family’s health?” That’s where the science really does matter – and it has been all over the map.
Way past time to question other Big Pharma products designed to create lifetime junkies of us, such as Lipitor. Studies are beginning to show heart damage from long term use. We have allowed our doctors to do the bidding of Big Pharma without researching for ourselves and weighing our own risks. Big Pharma writes the articles for the medical journals and our physicians are quick to get out their prescription pads instead of focusing on diet and prevention.
“If the total population Omicron infection rates for both Pfizer and Moderna groups mirror the vaccination rates for Pfizer and Moderna, then the vaccine effectiveness is nil for the prevention of Omicron infection. To me, that seems the most likely scenario.”
As a first order cut, this is correct. But the rate of prior infection in each cohort and the degree to which that prevents infection now is obviously also a factor. For instance if a decision for a large segment of people to not get vaccinated was due to acquired immunity due to previous infection and a another large segment of people got vaccinated due to not having a prior infection then obviously even if the vaccine was saline the vaccinated would then have a higher subsequent infection rate.
The Moderna EUA protocol says every other shot is a placebo. I need to do more reasearch to see if all EUA vaccine protocols are using placebos.
Pfizer’s FDA biological license for Comirnaty uses peculiar language regarding various different compositions to the shots.
These are all confounding factors when trying to arrive at vaccine effectiveness. Consider the Moderna, if half the injected group are receiving placebos, you many have half of all distributed doses in people out there crediting their great health to saline, instead of their natural immunity.