The Senate trial of former President Donald Trump should be an exercise in futility; there is no constitutional framework to impeach a former president. However , that said, when both wings of the UniParty bird are working in mutually beneficial alignment, anything can happen. [Senate Trial Rules – Impeachment #2 HERE]
Senators Schumer and McConnell have agreed to a set of rules for the impeachment trial. The rules will be voted on tomorrow, along with an initial set of four hours of arguments on the constitutionality of the entire fiasco beginning… and then a vote.
WASHINGTON DC – The agreement between Schumer and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, in conjunction with the House impeachment managers and Trump’s lawyers, will allow up to four hours of arguments on Tuesday about the constitutionality of putting a former president on trial. The Senate will then vote on whether the trial is constitutional. (more)
Assuming the trial goes forward… Then beginning Wednesday, each side will have up to 16 hours to lay out their case, spread out over two days per side. Senators will then have four hours to pose questions to the House managers and Trump’s attorneys.
National Movement to sue both political parties – and make congress run as an individual fighting for their constituents.
nice thought if we only had fair courts
the answer has to come from outside the box
before it gets to box #4
ok drop the lawsuit. we awake every dem and repub. and have them break away from the parties. those that don’t = fck em. Those that do , are the new way.
if you are with a Party – you are not with the People. its People over Party.
to wake people up
We need a media platform equal to the big boys
not obscure channels on TV or small Blogs/sites.
my wish is Trump’s kids would start something
me too.
its been 20 days. feels like a lifetime.
It’s possible Trump is laying low until after the trial. Then the howls of righteous anger will wash over this beleaguered forlorn land.
That’s my thinking as well.
It was estimated that 85+% of those who hated President Trump would still watch his every move, it’s a sickness
Sue? Nah, won’t work. What shook them up was the protesters who stormed the Capitol.
Use that information as you wish.
McConnell is a real piece of work.
He disgusts me. The RINOS are worse than the rats….at least the rats are somewhat honest about being marxists.
I would use a different word than “work”.
Meh. McConnell and colleagues will be joining the ranks of the Whig Party shortly, and hopefully will still be around to see the victories achieved by the Patriot Party.
RIP GOP
In reality though, the whigs simply infiltrated the republican party at its inception.
1000%!
I always found his looks repelling. He oozes dishonesty. The epitome of wheeling-dealing.
He definitely oozes something!
Scarlett; I sugget we review the words of Marcus Cicero: A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
A POS is more fitting
That’s definitely what The Turdle is.
That is putting it lightly.
Only the people in his District can get rid of him. Of course that is once we have fair non-fraud elections
Mitch needs to go but it’s hard to get a fat hog out of the trough.
Back in the 1980’s, I met Mitch McConnell at the airport. I was headed out on a business trip and he was in the waiting area next to mine. My family was with me and I introduced my young son to his Senator. Mr. McConnell was very gracious and sent my son a personal letter. He has not always been the man you see today. 30+ years in Washington does things to people.
You should join him then and your young son too.
If the roles were reversed, Schumer and Pelosi would be gnashing their teeth and ripping up the articles of impeachment while CNN filmed it.
Establishment GOP are such cucks.
unreal.
that whole complex needs a massive exorcisim.
or a few late term abortions
Abort Congress!!
I’ve always believed in the sanctity of life, but these people really should have been born with a hanger in their ear.
This process has already been deemed unconstitutional by virtue of the absence of a presiding Chief Justice presiding, as prescribed by the Constitution for impreachment trials. He has declined to participate in a process he sees as extra-Constitutional, as the Senate holds no legal authority over private citizens and cannot remove someone from an office he no longer holds. No Chief Justice, no Constitutionally binding ruling against President Trump. The Dems have nothing to gain by moving forward, they are stupidly and delightfully providing Trump a national audience.
But it is a distraction from the election fraud evidence that is starting to come out.
Wvvet, it’s all so predictable. All of their shenanigans are a distraction from something they have done or something they are presently doing.
Starting to come out? It’s been known since November 4th!
Speaking of election we have an unconstitutional Faux President. Let’s not forget six states violated their own laws and Federal law. Their votes should be cast out.
He is not President,
Do not comply.
YeahYouRight, it will be an audience minus me. I don’t intend to watch one minute of this national disgrace.
O.k., temporary pause on the rational, switching to the emotional.
All my life (64 yrs) I had a warm feeling whenever I saw the silhouette of the US Capitol Dome, or the iconic outline of the majestic façade of the seat of Liberty. In the 90’s I was able to take my elderly parents on a tour of the place, escorted by a bright young staffer from our solid-red-district. It was so nice to see the places of so many historical events, such as FDR’s speech at the outbreak of WWII, etc. The US flag hanging in the House chamber literally was unfurled on the moon by our Apollo astronauts.
But now, with so many anti-Americans running that place (Pelosi, Liz Cheney, Swalwell, etc) I feel a gut negative reaction that it has become enemy territory. I literally “feel” toward that building the same negatives that I feel when I see a pic of Red Square in Moscow, or the CCP meeting hall in Beijing. Each place wants to do harm to me and to my family.
Part of what is needed if we Americans can take our capitol back from the uniparty is a “purification”, maybe hold a prayer-and-fasting service under the dome.
Most importantly we need to re-capture it, then purify the District of Columbia. Maybe time-limit federal employment to a maximum of what, 12 years or so?
I’d like to hear if anybody else feels that way.
Those people – the globalist/uniparty congresscritters have destroyed so much. I loathe and despise most of congress. I pray for the few decent ones like MTG.
I am an Eagle Scout and it broke my heart to see Boy Scouting lose its moral compass. The moral bankruptcy led to financial bankruptcy. The Scout slogan, oath, and law are still the same but were not practiced (honor God with one’s lips but the heart is far away). The same path is being followed by our nation. The Constitution is the same but this impeachment charade shows a complete lack of dignity and wisdom. Seriously, which among these two sets of attributes would you consider applies to our current leadership:
1) sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery; idolatry and sorcery [drug use]; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions, and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like.
2) love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
Yes, we must pray and heck exorcise the building. The prince of this world has certainly found a home in DC. We need to kick him out.
1) sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery; idolatry and sorcery [drug use]; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions, and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. {It sounds more like the boy scouts,
Hi my name is Sly Sterling and I represent
approximately 92,700 people who have now filed sex abuse claims against the Boy Scouts of America , call me for a consultation,
Don’t you wonder how many of our elected people are on cocaine or some other drug?
You nailed it. I feel that as well.
Convention of States
So, can any president not in office at any time be impeached?
So, can any senator, in or not in office, at any time be impeached?
The Trump lawyers’ response document raises the same point. Basically they say, “If you can impeach Trump for this and disqualify him from future office, what is to stop a hypothetical future 2022 Republican congress from impeaching Biden over his previous actions as vice-president, and retroactively disqualifying him from office?”
2022 would have to be something other than GOP for it to even be considered. They are all corrupt and spineless.
There are legitimate items to impeach Osama.
MOSELEY: Trump Team’s New Legal Brief DESTROYS Democrats’ Post-Presidency Impeachment Dreams
https://nationalfile.com/moseley-trump-teams-new-legal-brief-destroys-democrats-post-presidency-impeachment-dreams/
The sheer hatred and malice the swamp has for this man is UN-BELIEVABLE! There is absolutely nothing they won’t do to try to destroy him. Just because he upset their insider, corrupt self-enrichment schemes in DC? Because he screwed with their visions of obscene wealth through corruption with globalist multi-national companies? Because he dared to stand up for the middle-class that they’re trying to stamp out? He exposed them all and what they’re up to and now we need to stand up for him. We also need the Convention of States more than ever. Term limits seems to be the only path to flushing out some of the filth in that cesspool called Washington DC.
Hmmm
maybe we should Organize a Drive by on local Republican offices
across the country
when they convict Trump in this show trial (you know they will regardless of the facts)
we should drive straight to the local Repub office and start honking outside
at a designated time.
if nothing else, it sends a message if it gets big enough???
We should do that on the 6th and 20th day of every month.
I see the Trump impeachment backfiring on the Uni-Party. There is going to be more exposure of the Uni-Party members any they will find themselves having to defend the from a defense posture rather than so much and offense posture.
Everything including the kitchen-sink has already been thrown at President Trump so there will be nothing new in regard to President Trump. As I see it, anything and everything has to be an upside for President Trump. Whereas new discoveries and exposure can be detriments to certain members of the Uni-Party.
What is puzzling to me; Why would the UniParty put themselves to what seems to be a risk to themselves? Also, why would they want Trump to be once again the focus which adds fortification for those wishing Trump to be back in the Oval office?
this is do or die for them to cement the fraud
they know who the real president is just like we do.
Trump can possibly rise from the ashes if the fraud is more widely exposed
in the future
they cannot control that end but they sure can control Trumps fate in a show trial
this is survival, they do not care about appearance
they don’t need your vote or support
we are just a gnat to them,
a pest in the way.
“this is do or die for them” which explains their desperation and willing to take the risk. As I see it, They are in a position of having to defend their plan, whereas, Trump is in the position of executing his plan.
Just throwing this out here,after reading all the comments here and on other sites about this impeachment farce nobody is stating the obvious in that Trump IS still President legally the rats know this, they also know that they connot impeach a private citizen but can impeach a legally elected President so hypothetically the insurance policy would be in case the stolen election is overturned at some point,everybody knows so there is a chance (slim) and the true result given to the rightfull winner they would be forced to acknowledge Trump as the real President,at that point the insurance policy would kick in with ‘ so he’s the President he’s still impeached’.
They cover all bases.
Interesting concept but don’t think it has credibility. The electoral college cast their votes for Biden, so officially he is president and not Trump.
Doesnt much matter to the uniparty. They have all the fire exits covered.
Not like they can be voted out of office …..
They don’t see any risk. They will us gaslighting on their own followers and attempt to use it on anyone else. They are confident that their brain-washed followers will keep their blinders to truth on throughout the proceeding. They are confident that with the media and Big Tech’s help, other people will also discount or ignore any truth that would show what they are. If not, then they will crush us, like they step on ants. So what do they have to fear?
“The Senate will then vote on whether the trial is constitutional.” Last I heard this was the role of the Supreme Court in this republic. What a usurpation of powers not enumerated to the House or Senate from the Constitution! This is traitorous behavior.
The Senate can legitimately vote on whether *they* consider it to be constitutional. (That is, if more than half the senate decides the Constitution forbids it, then the impeachment would get dropped without further action.)
However, even if the Senate decides that they think it’s constitutional, Trump still has the right to take it to SCOTUS and have it overturned in future, if SCOTUS disagrees with the Senate.
Treason, the new form of government adopted by the United States on 11/03/2020
Were Patriots Setup on January 6th?
Stop the Steal has exclusively obtained these photos of individuals who don’t appear to have been arrested. They appear to have sabotaged our event at the Ellipse and our permitted stage event that was to take place on Lot 8 that we heavily advertised. This was premeditated and not done in conjunction with President Trump, Ali Alexander or Stop the Steal.
https://stopthestealmovement.com/agitators
The FBI and CIA probably recruited these thugs. We no longer have an honest justice department and no one will be arrested.
Those agitators could be I’d in minutes by 4-Chan or 8-Chan. They will run facial recognition and locate them in minutes.
Call me when its all over.
Question: If these hornswoggling crooks manage to impeach Trump, what would the affect be to McConnell’s confirmed judges.
I’m telling you boys, if the corruptocrats get away with this massively crooked election, we have lost any ability to influence national politics.
I’m losing hope that there is some group like the Medjai from “The Mummy”, an ancient secret group sworn to protect our constitutional treasure. I like to keep up hope that something is going on in the background, but if there is a plan, I’ll be danged if I can see the logic in the way it’s playing out, and we can’t wait for something that might have been an illusion all along.
We need to prepare for the worst.
Candidus
I really can’t describe how stupid this is. Why put the country through this? I hope the left gets what’s coming there way. L S & SB.
This is confirmation of STEAL!
Why are they so afraid of PDJT?
They know that he has irrefutable proof of the STEAL.
They know that we know that they stole the election.
Things are not as they seem.
Don’t fall for the misinformation all around us.
Stop watching the damn MSM!
They are not afraid of him. They are trying to cancel us. He is just the symbol of us. They want a full out Marxist take over so they accuse us all of treason through Trump. That is why the Jan 6 attack was planned, known about, not prevented and the President not briefed.
They want to kill or imprison us all. This is planned. They are NOT afraid. Do not be deceived. We are being beaten into submission through what they are doing to the President. And he IS the president. They shoved him out of office with the help of China.
Mass extermination is what they really want. To be rid of us. Hence MSNBC blatantly talking about drone striking Trump supporters.
Trump Assassination Attempt — NEW DETAILS SUGGEST DRONE
https://realrawnews.com/2021/02/trump-assassination-attempt-new-details-suggest-drone/
Excuse me but there is ample statute to maintain there can be no impeachment for a private citizen. The weasel in chief Roberts even agrees so why doesn’t McConnell simply refuse this sham? What could the demonrats do?
The Turdle wants a “conviction”.
The railroading of private citizen Trump violates a couple clauses regarding impeachment. One) The Chief Justice shall (mandatory, as opposed to may)) preside over the impeachment of a president. Two) the remedies upon conviction being 1) removal from office and 2) removal from office plus can’t run for office again. Private citizen Trump is out of office so his situation can’t satisfy removal from office plus banned from office. Both conditions have to be met.
However, it is a kangaroo court and a railroad job. The rules and rules on motions will be such as to not allow a defense for the former president. Folks, the defense will not be entering the territory of election fraud, even if the defense team wants to go there. Bottom line is that the vote and conviction has already been determined regardless of any witness, any testimony, any defense argument.
Pat Leahy gets to be both judge and juror.
IMHO, it would appear athat there are enough potential conflicts of interest with so many Congressional members that should be brought to trial. There are a lot of members in Congress that may have some questionable ethics issue associated with them. There are excellent investigative groups exposing the corruption, but what is needed is legal action against the unethical or illegal behavior. Is the second “peachmint” fiasco just another effort to detract the attention away from the real corruption and the Deep State?
We are thinking too logically about the outcome of this impeachment. Of course it is unconstitutional. Of course, Our President will be acquitted. For the imposter, has been duly elected and sworn in. But that is where our reasoning is faulty. Everything that has happened is illogical and doesn’t make sense. 100 Senators who have been bought off and promised future favors are deciding the fate. Corrupt people don’t play by Constitutional rules. They have vey little respect for the Traditional Constitution…they want a living Constitution, one that is always fluid and woke! Nancy has theoretically shred that Old one just like she smuggly, petulantly, arrogantly shredded President Trump’s State of the Union behind his back. They will vote to convict. Who will stop them? Remember , they don’t follow rules…by Convicting they cut the head off of the snake of the Trump supporters .US. Who is our leader then? We are Rendered powerless or at least that is what they are going for…to take us out. I hope I’m wrong but don’t think I am.
The DemocRATS are hell bent on IRRATIONAL ILLOGICAL HYSTERICAL REVENGE and damn the Constitutional consequences. So if they continue the next time the GOP are charge they will IMPEACH OBAMA, BIDEN and CLINTOON. The PRECIDENCE will have been set.
GOP wouldn’t follow precedent. Too weak, corrupt, and spineless.
So, Democrat Senator Leahy will be presiding and voting?
Judge and jury member?
Banana and Star Chamber?
The fact that the Turtle agreed to this shows us which side they republicans are on. However, now that democrats know how to cheat in elections, our time to primary them may have already come to an end.
Purge Congress PERIOD! Put regular average citizens in those positions. You cannot have a trial to “remove from office” whom no longer holds office and without the Chief Justice presiding it would be an unconstitutional Bill of Attainder…. it’s all a show for the TDS Klan
Vote them out ??? Is that the Plan ???
Lord have mercy, no, we can’t vote them out. We would need a Convention of the States where We the People can be heard. It’s a long process from my current understanding, but I am still learning. Just voicing my opinion freely as everyone else here.
Still waiting to hear how there is even justification for having anything to do with impeachment permitted to even reach the Senate, never mind the possibility of a trial. There is no wiggle room in the language in the Constitution; You .cannot. Impeach. A private citizen! Moreover, if this disgraceful piece of Jackass Party vengefulness goes forward, it must be presided over by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Having some clown of a partisan Senator presiding makes the kangaroo court unconstitutional.
Which, increasingly, doesn’t seem to stop the JoeBama dictatorship.
We are now living in a out in the open, Post Constitutional United States.
Sadly for the last 100 years it was kept fairly quiet but, Now it’s in our faces.
By the time people are willing to fight this evil, it will surly be too late …..
Will there be a real kangaroo there?
There should be at least one toy kangaroo on somebody’s desk.
The demonrat party with no morals are not bound by any law so they pretend to impeach President Trump to get even in their evil mindset. We need to respond with action that hurts their Wallet by boycotting their sponsors on mslsd etc. Call their sponsors and boycott all there shows etc, 80 million strong President Trump supporters will have a big impact. We need to do these things before other actions are taken against us as the evil party plans to come after us by any means necessary including physical force.
So they “convict” (please people, technical understand the terms and the process matters!) because they will. They don’t care about the constitution because if no one pushes back, it will get accepted.
Trump will then take it to the SCOTUS for remedy. Keep in mind the SCOTUS is not participating in this sham in the first place. That should be the first indicator this is garbage.
Some people think the Republican party wing of the establishment hasn’t played a role in all of this but I beg to differ. They are equally involved in all of this. When election fraud occurred both obviously and overtly and with unbelievable evidence to show, the Republican establishment didn’t even blink. But “doing nothing” in the minds of some, is not the same as “doing bad things.” Well let’s pretend that’s true. But what about the ELECTION (the vote) FRAUD the Republicans perpetrated when they “had the votes” to get rid of Cheney? These “representatives” in our “republic” held a vote by secret ballot and by miracle, those votes changed dramatically. So either the vote was a complete fraud (and it was no matter how you look at it) in that they weren’t counted properly or the vote was genuine and we’re not allowed to know who the traitors were. A secret vote should NEVER be allowed as they are supposed to be representing the people who put them in office and when they do things in secret, it completely destroys any notion that they are representing us and are accountable to us. They flipped the roles of who is in charge.
It’s hard to predict how SCOTUS would rule once the conviction is established. If they vote for conviction in the senate “in secret” (not supposed to but let’s see!) it will absolutely happen. So if you’re really interested in the outcome, set your sights on SCOTUS rulings, not on this sham senate trial.
I see very little outrage where I live in New England (NH) and my sense is either people are in favor of canceling Trump or they are too afraid of their neighbors to oppose them. I am seeking a new place to live where freedom lives. The Live Free or Die state has let freedom die.
The desire here is to soooo malign Trump so that no one will carry the MAGA Agenda again.
McConnell has got to go. What a meretricious, duplicitous traitor. How do these villains rise so high in our Party? Scum who work against the interests of the American people.
My Bubbie had a Yiddish saying that seems appropriate: Roses wilt and shit blooms.
How come I don’t recall ever seeing a pic where McConnell to talking to Schumer and Schumer is listening? Is it that Schumer is the ‘big brother’ here? Or that they are really brunch buddies where McConnell always pays the tab, and willingly? Good grief!
Chuck Schumer, elected to Congress in 1980, is one of many leftist CIA officers elected to Congress over the years.
It is a violation of the Constitution for a CIA officer to be a Member of Congress. Article I, section 6 states: “No Person holding any Office under the United States shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.”
The men and women of the CIA are “CIA officers,” and officers of the United States Central Intelligence Agency clearly “hold office under the United States,” which means they are Constitutionally prohibited from being Members of Congress while they are in the CIA.
There have been leftist CIA officers in Congress in violation of the Constitution since the 1950s.
Joe Biden has been a CIA “asset” targeted for the Presidency since 1984. His CIA handlers are behind the election fraud of 2020.
Leftist CIA officers have been building p control of the government since the 1950s. They are bent on destroying America.
Read “DESTROYING AMERICA: The CIA’s Quest to Control the Government.”
This is a Kangaroo court.