The Department of Justice announces “Reform and Oversight” of the FBI [SEE HERE]
However, this ¹second memorandum is just mind-blowing from the perspective of someone around the table at Main Justice not saying to the United States Attorney General:
…Um, sir, you do realize a different set of FISA rules and surveillance regulations for politicians, advisors and their staff means you are codifying a two-tiered system within the administration of justice, right?
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There is only one way remaining that will be able to save the Republic. And that one way is fraught with danger. That is an Article 5 Convention of the States.
Article. V.
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
The Federal Government cannot be reformed or changed from within. The Congress will kill any amendment that threatens the deep state. NOTHING will pass through Congress that reforms congress in the way we want and need it to be reformed. The O*N*L*Y way that change can be had is through the states convening and passing Amendments to the U.S. Constitution that are specific, unambiguous and effective. By doing it through the Convention of States via Article 5, the Congress is COMPLETELY removed from the Amendment process.
While doing this, the state legislatures and governors MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to put deep state operatives in the delegations to sabotage the convention. What needs to be done? Through clear, concise language the following needs to be enacted through amendments to the US Constitution.
1. Term Limits
a. President 2 Terms (8 years)
b. Senators 2 Terms (12 Years)
c. Representatives 3 Terms (6 years)
d. These are lifetime, cumulative limits, not consecutive years.
e. No current immediate family members nor direct descendants for 4 generations.
f. No retirement, no healthcare for Congress. Each Congressman pays for their own retirement and health insurance.
2. Repeal of the 17 Amendment
a. Senators appointed by the state legislatures. No campaigns, no campaign contributions, no campaign war chests.
b. Restrict campaign contributions to individuals who live in the district of the candidate. All excess campaign money given to fund to provide support for families of service members killed in action.
c. Return to fixed number representation. 1 Representative for every 50,000 people. That would put Congress at 6,600 representatives, MUCH more in-tune with voters in their district and make the House much more responsive to the people in their district. Restrict government paid staff to 1 Administrative Assistant, 1 Researcher.
3. Federal Judges limited to a single 15-year term. No Federal retirement. Judges must fund their own retirement plan.
This is just a start.
We have to start somewhere.
When I find myself in a discussion with an Article V COnstitutional “reform” zealot, I ask them why they don’t start with low hanging fruit – repeal the 17th then come back to tal kto me about a ConCon.
I would not classify myself as a zealot. I’m more of a realist. Congress will not reform itself. They will not allow any amendment to pass through Congress that would reduce their power.
The DoJ will not reform itself nor do it’s job to get rid of the thieves.
What avenue is left? Convention of States is pretty much it.
Also make mandatory that all speeches on the House Floor or Senate Floor on CSPAN must be given while only wearing underwear and black socks.
No salary or stock trading allowed if budget is not balanced or if Debt not declining for each FY.
Congressmen must compose their own bills; no more lobby lawyers. Must explain all possible unintentional consequences and cost over-runs.
Congressmen may NOT sponsor another bill if prior bill had cost overruns or significant unintentional consequences.
Disband all government worker unions.
Lifetime government worker jobs 10 years max. (to get them back out to the private sector)
No 5th Amendment for Government Workers (the Lerner Rule).
Waterboarding for corrupt officials or workers who show any evasion.
Cannot belong to religion diametrically opposed to principles of Constitution.
No Lobby jobs for any former Congressmen and vice versa.
Workday is 8-6, 5 days a week and NO holidays off.
Must take Comprehensive US History and Economics exam (2 days each) prior to being allowed into Congress. (no Howard Zinn devotees)
William Comptroller—-That’s a good start, IMHO!
Replace (somehow) Mitch McConnel with an un-bought nationalist who will support PT’s personnel selections requiring senate approval. Institutions NEVER reform themselves. All that can be done is close said institutions down or appoint LEADERSHIP and staff that will force reform.
Second, enforce (and or pass new) laws against sedition and any activity that supports an undermining/ replacement of our governing system. That includes mandatory life in prison or the death penalty for citizens that cooperate and provide support to hostile foreign (chinese) sabotage (chinese et al, unlimited warfare in all it’s forms) on our governing system.
If all our elected officials and their appointees can’t be relied on to enforce the excellent Constitution we have, what makes you think opening it up to total destruction is a good idea?
There’s nothing wrong with the Constitution. “We have met the enemy. And he is us.” Reelect PDJT in a landslide, MAGA candidates where available, and any R where that’s the available choice. That’s how to get the job done right.
Hopefully, he will correct me if I’m wrong……
Sundance told me several years back, if they would repeal the 17th, he MIGHT CONSIDER supporting a ConCon. I believe I’m right about that as best I remember……
To Bryan Alexander;
You could not be MORE WRONG. There is nothing off limits in a Constitutional Convention, more fitly called a Con-Con. Without teaching a short class, the members of a Con-Con can void the Bill of Rights.
Which ones can you do without? First, for freedom of speech, of religion? Second to keep and bear arms? Fourth, to be secure in your papers, places, and things?
Lastly, you said “The Federal Government cannot be reformed or changed from within.” Yet you propose having state governments send state representatives to a meeting to “fix” the federal Constitution. Why not just propose to absolve the Constitution by national vote?
They cannot void the Bill of Rights without the 3/4 states then voting to do that back home… would not happen….
It’s important to note that a Constitutional Convention and a Convention of States are two different things. One of the major differences is that in a Convention of States, the Congress has no role at all.
A thumbnail sketch of how it works: A group of States get together and agree on a set of Amendments. Those Amendments, once formally proposed, must be ratified by 3/4 of the States. If ratified, they become part of the Constitution. Look Ma, no Congress!
Form the Convention of States (I’ll back you) and get just one of those changes ratified.
If you can do that then the rest has a chance. Otherwise a CoS is just a pipe dream.
Shoot for the upstairs bedroom first instead of the moon and stars.
Philosophical question: Do we have those rights, now, without the convention?
Please add:
1.All proposed legislation must be written by the proposing member(s) and can not exceed 10 pages in length of legal sized paper and font used can be no smaller than “10”.
(We’ve got to kill off the lobbies running the country)
2. All legislation to be voted on must be read by the voting member prior to any vote. Failure to read the proposed legislation will result in the member being removed from office.
Bryan Thanks for bringing it up. I joined 2 yrs ago when Mark Levin & others were touting COS but no longer. Why?
As long as we have stupid voters, we will have problems.
Sounds great the only pronlem is the state governments are just as corrupted if not more so than the federal government. They have bern bought and paid for by the same powers. This is evidenced with what we are seeing played out before us on daily basis across the country on daily basis with open defiance to adhere to the rule of law and all attempts by the President’s administration to make the changes and reforms we are all clambering for. Let us also not forget much of the real power in the swamp lies in the hands of unelected bureaucrats in the multitude of departments of the bloated departments and branches of government who are permanent better known as one of the wheels of the deep state or swamp. These people remain in place regardless of who is elected and simply ignore, undrrmine or subvert policies they disagree with regardless of who is elected. The problem is much deeper and will require generations to correct there is no simple or quick fix to the ills and problems with our governments both state and federal. I don’t have a quick or simple solution except to say that every citizen patriot is and will be required to get involved in the process by being involved, participating in and monitoring both the unrkected and elected officials of those we grant power to. It will require a true commitment from all otherwisethere is no real chance for change. Just my humble opinion.
Judges would just throw it all out on a Technicality. The system is beyond reform and barr is in on it.
That’s a GREAT start, Bryan. You’ve nailed down a whole bunch of inequities in our election system. 2.c. is rather troubling, however; where do you house and convene 6,600 representatives? Unless they all stayed home and did “virtuals”. Great start, however.
Today, ZeroHedge is reporting that the Woods File on Carter Page went missing 2 years ago, and had to be “recreated” from the FISA application given the Mueller team.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/carter-pages-fisa-related-woods-file-docs-disappear
1) I propose that there NEVER WAS a WOODS FILE to lose. There NEVER WAS a justifiable predicate since the FISA application was based on the Steele Dossier, the concoction of rumors produced by Clinton contractors Global GPS. .
2) We know that the copy of the FISA application given (and released) by the Mueller team was in fact the FBI (tracer infused) copy produced by Brian Dugan. They had to “recreate” the Woods File from the FISA application so the stories and dates all matched what was leaked to the NYT a year earlier. So the story is that the original Woods File was lost so they HAD to use the Mueller copy, see?
Given WHAT WE KNOW above, how can BARR release this DOJ nonsense today?
and when the DOJ ordered all exported data sequestered. Who confirmed it was all obtained. who confirmed the exporters?
2 hop rule – was illegal due to Clinesmith…… We have a class action lawsuit.
Were Americans Illegally Surveilled due to Clinesmith Plea?
1.
A FISA warrant was obtained for Carter Page on October 21, 2016. The Steele Dossier appears to be the primary supporting evidence of the warrant. The primary sub source (PSS) for this dossier was Igor Danchenko.
2.
This PSS was interviewed by the Washington Field Office (WFO) FBI 3 times in 2017 on January, March, and May. In May 2017 the PSS informed the WFO FBI that in January of 2017 he told the “Crossfire Hurricane” Investigation team that there was “zero” corroboration for any statement within the dossier.
3.
In fact, in the PSS’s previous interviews in January and March of 2017 he informed them it was all “word of mouth and hearsay”.
4.
On August 19, 2020 the FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith (submitting this FISA on Carter Page) admits to altering the email for the FISA application during the ‘Crossfire Hurricane’ Investigation.
Given WHAT WE KNOW above, how can BARR release this DOJ nonsense today?
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Given what we know, that’s exactly how Barr works.
PS.Cause Barr thinks we are all STUPID?????
Not stupid, just not paying attention.
knows we know but also knows there are many more that are stupid.
and they know we dont riot
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/1118/CLEANED032.%20Basket%202%20-%20NSA%20training.log.pdf
unclassified slide deck on 2 hop
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/
Ever wonder why every hop is exempt from another approval process?
Dershowitz, Barr Sr, Barr Jr, Jeffrey Epstein, Roy Cohn….. it’s not a good look Mr. President. With friends like these?
Judicial Watch: New Strzok-Page Emails Show FBI Investigated President Trump’s Tweets Critical of Obama and FBI
the investigation wasnt about words.
it was about meta.. location primarily.
Everytime you open a twitter page it collects your location. its a virtual gps by site opening.
remember the controversy with POTUS’s twitter while traveling to N. Korea.
near miss.
I still believe to this day some redactions in the text were assassination attempts (potentially jokes)
On that list Epstein is dead, but POTUS needs to drop Dershowitz.
Huh? Trump and Dershowitz were friends? Epstein? Barr? Where are you getting this from?
And regarding “Roy Cohn”, did you mean “Michael Cohen”?
No, I meant Roy Cohn
https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/
This Roy Cohn…..
https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/
https://www.cdc.gov/epstein-barr/about-ebv.html
Sorry I’m referring to the degree of separation which was meant to be implied but I did a poor job presenting :
Trump < Barr < Dershowitz < Epstein < BarrSr.
< Roy Cohen
President Trump has PROVEN that he
– cannot be bribed
– cannot be blackmailed
– cannot be bullied
IMHO he cannot be fooled, lied to or blindsided …
President Trump has PROVEN that he is the Supreme Master of the Art of the Deal.
If you acknowledge the above, why so many negative opinions about Barr, Wray or any of the Cabinet members?
Rush talks often about how the Swamp critters do not understand our Lion. I submit that only a very few people understand our President – even treepers do not understand POTUS. If they ‘knew him’, they would be able to answer their own questions about why POTUS does not fire Barr or Wray or anyone whose actions seem contrary to their perceived political correctness. Just because ‘we’ do not know what happens behind closed doors does not mean things to benefit us are not being discussed, planned or happening.
I do not subscribe to the idea that POTUS cannot take desired action until after the election. He CAN stop what is happening to Gen Flynn. He CAN force Barr and Durham to act. He has proven hundreds of times in 3 and a half years that things that need to be done GET DONE! He does, however, to things on Trump Time.
I am sure that POTUS will continue to do what he has done nonstop since the day he was sworn in … create solutions to solve problems for those of us who are rooting to Keep America Great.
You cannot ‘trust the plan’, but you darn sure can bet on Promises Made, Promises Kept. Listen carefully to what our VSG P DJT SAYS and TWEETS. Results may not be to your liking or meet your expectations, but they will be what President Trump believes needs to get done to Make and Keep America Great.
Another thought: How POTUS plans to assure that we remain a Constitutional Republic is likely different from how any of us ‘unelected’ pundits think it should be done.
Am i showing my bias?
Count me as a deplorable Trumper.
His tweets and his words are what’s keeping me hanging around… especially his tweets. It tells me He Knows!
There would be severe political consequences, but couldn’t he publicly ask Roberts to get involved? Now I know why Scalia “mysteriously” died. (I am being nice here).
This nonsense would not have happened if he were still alive and in charge of the Circuits and federal judges.
Barr said “discipline measures”
can we get something more? maybe some arrests?
The rights and powers set forth in the Constitution as belonging to the people are endowed by the Creator, not by gummint or any document. The document merely states that truth. So yes we have those rights. What we do with them is the question.
If discipline includes firing squads I could be OK with that.
dayallaxeded—-Me too!
Yeah. Get the FISA court running ASAP to violate our privacy. But investigating and indicting criminals for abuse. … slow walk that till forever. … and strip down the penalties to next to nothing for Clinesmith. If he’d been acting against a Dem he’d get 20 yrs…
Be bold and drop a bomb on the NSA Utah Data Center. That would send a message…finally, an in-your-face message to the “resistance” after 3 3/4 years of America thwarting bullsh**.
Billy Bob, where art thou?
Bill Barr was appointed nearly two years ago, and to date has done nothing. Zero.
Barr has been friends with Robert Mueller for 30 years. They come from the same Republican circles in the Department of Justice. They both worked together at the Bush Justice Department, All we heard for 20 months is that Robert Mueller is a man of the greatest integrity and patriotism. Quotes by Bill Barr regarding Mueller.
And Barr has also said some nice things about Christoper Wray who is busy covering everything up
It’s very hard to believe that Barr will do anything. He is unlikely to rock the boat and stick his neck out. The swamp is laughing all the way to the bank – and probably emboldened by the lack of action from DOJ, and continue their effort to take down President Tump.
Bill Barr was appointed nearly two years ago, and to date has done nothing. Zero.
Wrong. I’ve posted the info several times in this thread so I ask you to check out my prior posts with some of his greatest accomplishments. Search for “Mueller” and you’ll find them.
Please name the swamp members that are behind bars. Please name the swamp members that have been indicted. Please name the swamp members that have been handcuffed. NONE – ZERO
These criminals are free to commit additional crimes against President Trump. Again, No results from Barr – The American people are tired of waiting and are demanding results now from Barr.
Jesus.
We just became a Banana Republic
Not so! We have discovered we have been one since 9/11
Maybe this series of high profile takedowns by the US Marshal’s is *Another* method to reform the FBI.
@USMarshalsHQ
74 people are facing federal charges for crimes committed adjacent to or under the guise of peaceful demonstrations in Portland since at least May 29, 2020:
74 People Facing Federal Charges for Crimes Committed During Portland
justice.gov
9:00 AM · Aug 28, 2020
@USMarshalsHQ
Aug 31
Operation Safety Net recovered 25 missing children in its first two weeks, and the sting is continuing right now:
Operation Safety Net aims to rescue 200 missing Northeast Ohio children.
@USMarshalsHQ
USMS Director Donald Washington and Georgia law enforcement officials will announce the results of Operation Not Forgotten, an operation resulting in the location, rescue or recovery of 39 children, tomorrow 1pm EST at the USMS Southeast Regional Fugitive Task Force Headquarters.
11:01 AM · Aug 26, 2020
@USMarshalsHQ
The U.S. Marshals Service and the Highlands County, FL. Sheriff’s O9ffice concluded Operation Disconnect, which led to 37 arrests. The operation targeted non-compliant sex offenders, sex offenders with active warrants, and high-risk sex offenders.
11:30 AM · Aug 25, 2020
Plus. US Marshals were instrumental in down the Riot Kitchen operations in Kenosha, WI a few days ago…
https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/activists-arrested-in-kenosha-after-filling-up-gas-cans-police
again ..
our marshals seem to be doing their job
FBI? not the job i thought they had.
CIA? not the job I thought they had
Did Obama sell us to the UN?
I have no link, just phone conversation w/a friend. She had heard the TSA wants to defund the Police and become the sole law enforcement of the land. Keep your eyes peeled for any news on this because quite frankly it wouldn’t surprise me, especially since the airlines have taken such a hit, TSA out of a job.
I want to remind people that the US Marshals Service is part of the DOJ.
Can we see a copy of the full memorandum? I’ll reserve judgement until then. This is just me. No offense or disrespect intended or implied. I just like to see the whole horse’s mouth before passing judgement. There is so much at stake….
My Apologies. I just found it in a link inside the link. I withdraw the prior statement and will read the whole memo and then re-comment.
Thank you.
whats your thoughts now?
I guess Barr is just putting what has been going on in written form. This is the epitome of the “These rules are for thee but not for me” axiom. I have tried to give you a chance AG Barr but you just can’t help thumbing your nose at ordinary citizens. I take it that this is your shot across the bow in support of Socialism.
But do you feel like Trump, the presidential candidate, was an ordinary citizen? I don’t. He was particularly susceptible to the abuses of Barry’s DOJ-FBI and other agencies. And if Barry’s DOJ-FBI had been successful in knocking Trump out of the presidential race, or successful in removing him after he had become President, it would have affected the entire country.
I’m not suggesting that ordinary citizens aren’t important, but clearly Trump was more important. The new rules ensure extra oversight.
When you know the National Security Dir was framed and
When you know Attorneys withheld exculpatory evidence
And no one goes after the Attorneys who withheld this evidence either with indictments or recommending bar association action tells you all you need to know IMO
Sure the DOJ dropped the case but Flynn’s framers and those who knowingly withheld exculpatory evidence still roam free. No crimes, no penalty and no indictments.
And the only person paying any price in all of this is the innocent man, Gen. Flynn.
This simple fact alone should prove to all that a two tiered system of justice is how DC operates, period.
EXCELLENT comment. I’d like to see AG Barr respond to them…..but then again, I believed in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
A person who commented on a prior page caused me to listen to a part of the Barr-Levin interview again. Barr appointed US Attorney Jensen to look into the Flynn case. Jensen concluded that it was bogus (my words). This caused Barr to drop the case against Flynn. Is that the last thing that will happen in this matter? We don’t know. I think it’s not unreasonable to expect some legal fallout, it just hasn’t happened yet.
I know everyone is so hungry for indictments, I am too. But you all give up to easily and declare loss. Worse, because Barr doesn’t operate according to your schedule you declare him corrupt or inept. That’s just not rational. Barr has already let us know that the COVID mess impacted the investigation, in one way because Grand Juries could not be convened, and also that interviews were delayed. I suspect we would have already seen some results by now if it hadn’t been for COVID. And who knows, maybe the Dems dragging COVID out endlessly has something to do with Barr.
When you have seen them act in a day on whispered rumors, it is hard to believe that months of ‘looking’ has resulted in ‘nothing seen’ without understanding that they never even looked.
Forget the FISAs , they are spying at will. FISA is the difference between a potentially public takedown and a private one.
So establishment types are quick to pounce that 3rd parties are not viable. Could this be a scare tactic? What would it take and can we keep it pure and transparent? Could we play by Ron Paul rules?
Our current gov est. is essentially the mob.
I think, we have reason to believe that the first document is a forgery. Look at the date stamp and notice the initials and date. This appears to be a cut and paste operation. What do you think?
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/FISA%20Warrant%20Application%20for%20Carter%20Page.pdf
?w=1280&h=1580
Pages 63 and 65 on the first document match. They should not.
the 7 doesn’t cross the S,
and the slash after the 3 doesnt align to the ‘l’ in clerk
the initials and dated – appear different somewhat.
they could of cup and paste the ‘initials and date’ and the ‘stamp’ separately and superimposed.
why? have sally sign something different the blackmail her?
they reduced size of the larger one and everything aligns, perfectly. Give it another try and you will see what I mean.
Sally, did not sign all of these – these are cut and paste. A little resizing and you will see, I hope
The fix is always in.
There should be a two-tiered justice system…. Absolutely!!
Anyone who creates, enforces or prosecutes the laws of the United States of America should be help to a MUCH HIGHER STANDARD than regular citizens. The penalties for having one of those positions and breaking a law or abusing a law should be significantly more than a regular citizen.
Also any governmental official who breaks or abuses a law in this fashion MUST be immediately removed from governmental service, along with any related individuals (either by birth or marriage) and all such individuals should be barred permanently from both later service as well as suffer the loss of any pension/benefits due to that service.
Such individuals should be pariahs and their families also bear the punishment of those abuses/crimes. Knowing that not only your position is in jeopardy but also the positions of your family members should be a strong incentive against these abuses. Also knowing that your penalty will be far greater than what a regular citizen would face should act as an inducement to not do such things.
A stoke of the pen, and just like that it will never happen again. Just like you said.
Well done USAG Barr!
Send a quick email to AG Barr to let him know how much we respect him. 🙂
Email: https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice
At least let one of his loyal staff members know what he’s working for…
Don’t write to him until you’ve read the full memoranda.
#1: https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1311696/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
#2: https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1311701/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
210 day appointments just like Ric, Barr and Wray—– see ya Nov. 4. General Flynn America needs you again, please Sir
So they finally admitted the FISC acronym should actually read F&D(Domestic)ISC.
I thought this was interesting (infuriating) all day after it was announced.
Wray pats himself on the back claiming he implemented 40 changes/reforms IMMEDIATELY.
If there were 40 changes needed, then it was a sloppy law in the first place, and he should be telling Barr to go back to Congress to fix it. Putting out a friggin memo doesn’t cut it since swamp rats will just claimed they missed the memo.
In the same article, Barr/Wray were touting how Barr made additional changes in addition to the 40 Wray immediately implemented.
Again, if there were that many changes needed to protect the Constitutional rights of Americans, then Barr needs to go back to Congress and get it changed and codified in law.
The most infuriating part of reading their little cheer session was realizing Barr had pushed hard to have this law renewed long before these changes were ever announced, along with the fact that huge numbers of law-breaking swamp rats have never been held accountable for breaking the law.
WTH will they care about some memo?
My wife was just watching Fox and said she heard Trump calling out Barr. The President saying Barr better get off his butt and do something!
You need to support your claim. Find the video.
“reform” in lieu of prosecutions. Anger is approaching absolute zero.
I’m a little surprised that the link to the second memorandum was not included with this article. Much of our discussion pertains to the red underlined phrase. But there’s so much more in the memorandum. It’s not just about politicians and candidates, there are extra precautions that pertain to ordinary citizens as well. https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1311701/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
1. Before any application initiating or renewing the targeting of a United States person is submitted to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (“FISC”), relevant FBI personnel, as determined by the Director of the FBI, shall (i) review the case file and the accuracy sub-file to ensure the proposed application is accurate and complete, and (ii) report the findings ofthese reviews to the attorney from the National Security Division (“NSD”) Office of Intelligence
who is handling the case.
2. Any misstatement or omission of material fact in a submission to the FISC, as determined by NSD, must be immediately reported to the FISC in accordance with the FISC’s Rules of Procedure. With respect to the implementation of an approval or authority granted by the FISC, any instance of non-compliance with applicable law or with such approval or authorization, as determined by NSD,
including non-compliance with procedures adopted by the Attorney General and approved by the FISC, must be immediately reported to the FISC in accordance with the FISC’s Rules of Procedure. If the FBI self-identifies a compliance incident related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (“FISA”), it must be immediately reported to NSD.
#3 pertains to politicians and candidates. The extra checks include a defensive briefing (which Trump never received), sign off by the AG, and more.
Everyone needs to read the document before complaining about it.
This is pretty funny. From the first memorandum (https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1311696/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery):
In addition, the Inspector General has agreed to conduct, within one year of the date of
this memorandum, a comprehensive review of the roles and responsibilities ofthe FBI Office of General Counsel (“OGC”) in overseeing compliance with applicable laws, policies, and procedures relating to the FBI’s national security activities. The Inspector General has agreed to provide recommendations, if any, on how OGC’s roles and responsibilities should be clarified or restructured.
This is directly related to Clinesmith. In the Dec 2019 IG Report, Clinesmith is “the OGC Attorney”.
Why change anything? Start by enforcing the laws we have. There are supposed to be laws against fraud and corruption now. Enforce the laws we have now.
They are putting forward the case that what happened is due to a system problem in the government.
There’s no system problem.
The problem is dirty cops.
Get rid of the dirty cops.
Grand Jury, and then indictment.
Either what they did is wrong and against the law or it isn’t.
Publish the Grand Jury minutes.
Specific witness names and identifying information can be redacted.
If the people running the system are crooks, it won’t matter what changes you make.
It will still be run by crooks.
If we don’t have a prosecutor or DOJ or AG who can enforce the law, all the regulations in the world won’t amount to a hill of beans.
The pay off for all this was political, to defeat Trump and win the election.
Everyone understood the risk and they were willing to accept the risk of jail.
After all they were FBI agents and DOJ lawyers. There’s no one in the world who understands the details of the law better than them and there never will be.
Exactly! Bill Barr might as well make this DOJ policy retroactive to the 2016 presidential campaign period! Mary Foxtrot Papa Oscar Sam
Reforming a process that wasn’t adhered to in the first place doesn’t seem like a very effective response. And requiring two signatures authorizing a coup isn’t much of a safeguard.
Yes. It’s 100% theater.
Unless….
There are active FISA warrants against Obama officials and advisors, involving Iran for example. The standards in the Second Memo will already have been met. And they’re no different from standards in any other Memo at the end of the day.
FISA is un-Constitutional and always has been.
The Patriot Act is that as well.
We need to take a hatchet to both.
Roberts’ silence on the FISC corruption, a court which he directly supervises, is disgraceful.
Barr is doing exactly what McConnell put him there to do.
Such tyranny with impunity means the Republic is dead. All so-called “patriots” today are liars and frauds, no one can claim such a distinction while such infamy persists.