Open Letter to Attorney General Bill Barr – “We The People” Already Know…

Dear Attorney General Barr,

Former HPSCI Chairman, and current HPSCI ranking member, Devin Nunes appears on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo to discuss several matters of importance.  One of the critical topics touched is the ongoing investigations of Obama era intelligence and political surveillance via the DOJ-NSD FBI, CIA, DNI and State Dept.

Representative Nunes hits the key point when he highlights current redactions and current decisions to classify ongoing investigative documents.  It is critically important to accept this reality. There are current intelligence officers and career officials in place hiding material by labeling evidence as classified.  A recent example was the December 9, 2019, inspector general report about the manipulation of FISA. [@2:30 to @3:00 of video]

Who is doing these redactions?


There is an ongoing cover-up operation with its origin going back to June, July and August in 2018 led by Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, AAG John C Demers, FBI Director Chris Wray and FBI chief legal counsel Dana Boente.  That cover-up continues through today.

Start by reminding yourself of a series of documents released by the Senate Judiciary Committee on April 17, 2020. [SEE HERE] Within the release there is a rather alarming letter from the DOJ to the FISA Court dated July 2018.  [Link to Letter]

After the FISA Court reviewed the December 9, 2019, inspector general report, the FISC ordered the DOJ-NSD to declassify and release documents related to the Carter Page FISA application. In January the FISA court ordered the DOJ and FBI to release certain materials making them public for the first time.

That FISA court order is what led to the DOJ submitting documents to the Senate Judiciary Committee. That court order is what led to the judiciary committee current document release.  The current FISA court is forcing sunlight on the DOJ and FBI.

In the cover letter for this specific release to the Senate Judiciary and Senate Intelligence committees, the DOJ cites the January 7, 2020, FISA court order:

Keep in mind that prior to this release only the FISA court had seen this letter from the DOJ-National Security Division (DOJ-NSD).

As we walk through the alarming content of this letter I think you’ll identify the motive behind the FISC order to release it.

First, the letter in question was sent by the DOJ-NSD to the FISA Court on July 12, 2018. It is critical to keep the date of the letter in mind as we review the content.

Aside from the date the important part of the first page is the motive for sending it. The DOJ is telling the court in July 2018: based on what they know the FISA application still contains “sufficient predication for the Court to have found probable cause” to approve the application. The DOJ is defending the Carter Page FISA application as still valid.

However, it is within the justification of the application that alarm bells are found. On page six the letter identifies the primary participants behind the FISA redactions:

As you can see: Christopher Steele is noted as “Source #1”. Glenn Simpson of Fusion-GPS is noted as “identified U.S. person” or “business associate”; and Perkins Coie is the “U.S-based law firm.”

Now things get very interesting.

On page #8 when discussing Christopher Steele’s sub-source, the DOJ notes the FBI found him to be truthful and cooperative.

This is an incredibly misleading statement to the FISA court because what the letter doesn’t say is that 18-months earlier the sub-source, also known in the IG report as the “primary sub-source”, informed the FBI that the material attributed to him in the dossier was essentially junk.

Let’s look at how the IG report frames the primary sub-source, and specifically notice the FBI contact and questioning took place in January 2017 (we now know that date to be January 12, 2017):

Those interviews with Steele’s primary sub-source took place in January, March and May of 2017; and clearly the sub-source debunked the content of the dossier itself.

Those interviews were 18-months, 16-months and 14-months ahead of the July 2018 DOJ letter to the FISC. The DOJ-NSD says the sub-source was “truthful and cooperative” but the DOJ doesn’t tell the court the content of the truthfulness and cooperation. Why?

Keep in mind this letter to the court was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018. Jeff Sessions was Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG; Christopher Wray was/is FBI Director, David Bowditch was/is Deputy, and Dana Boente was/is FBI chief-legal-counsel.

Why would the DOJ-NSD not be forthcoming with the FISA court about the primary sub-source? This level of disingenuous withholding of information speaks to an institutional motive.

By July 2018 the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the court and said the predicate was still valid. Why?

It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.

In July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.  Bob Mueller is a “dear friend” of current AG Bill Barr.

This letter justifying the FISA application and claiming the current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant…. My research suspicion is that the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller had already extracted from the fraudulent FISA authority.  That’s the motive.

In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation. The DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller’s poisoned fruit.

If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there’s a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending. The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.

This is not simply a hunch, because that motive also speaks to why the FISC would order the current DOJ to release the letter.

Remember, in December 2019 the FISC received the IG Horowitz report; and they would have immediately noted the disparity between what IG Horowitz outlined about the FBI investigating Steele’s sub-source, as contrast against what the DOJ told them in July 2018.

The DOJ letter (July 2018) is a transparent misrepresentation when compared to the information in the Horowitz report (Dec 2019). Hence, the court orders the DOJ to release the July 2018 letter so that everyone, including congressional oversight and the public can see the misrepresentation.

The court was misled; now everyone can see it.

We can see it.

The content of that DOJ-NSD letter, and the subsequent disparity, points to an institutional cover-up; and as a consequence the FISC also ordered the DOJ to begin an immediate sequestration effort to find all the evidence from the fraudulent FISA application. The proverbial fruit from the poisonous tree…. And yes, that is ongoing.

Moving on…  Two more big misstatements within the July letter appear on page #9. The first is the DOJ claiming that only after the application was filed did they become aware of Christopher Steele working for Fusion-GPS and knowing his intent was to create opposition research for the Hillary Clinton campaign. See the top of the page.

According to the DOJ-NSD claim the number four ranking official in the DOJ, Bruce Ohr, never told them he was acting as a conduit for Christopher Steele to the FBI. While that claim is hard to believe, in essence what the DOJ-NSD is saying in that paragraph is that the FBI hoodwinked the DOJ-NSD by not telling them where the information for the FISA application was coming from. The DOJ, via John Demers, is blaming the FBI.

The second statement, equally as incredulous, is at the bottom of page nine where the DOJ claims they had no idea Bruce Ohr was talking to the FBI throughout the entire time any of the FISA applications were being submitted. October 2016 through June 2017.

In essence the claim there is that Bruce Ohr was working with the FBI and never told anyone in the DOJ throughout 2016 and all the way past June 29th of 2017. That denial seems rather unlikely; however, once again the DOJ-NSD is putting the FBI in the crosshairs and claiming they knew nothing about the information pipeline.

Bruce Ohr, whose wife was working for Fusion-GPS and assisting Christopher Steele with information, was interviewed by the FBI over a dozen times as he communicated with Steele and fed his information to the FBI. Yet the DOJ claims they knew nothing about it.

Again, just keep in mind this claim by the DOJ-NSD is being made in July 2018, six months after Bruce Ohr was demoted twice (December 2017 and January 2018). If what the DOJ is saying is true, well, the FBI was completely off-the-rails and rogue.

Neither option speaks well about the integrity of either institution; and quite frankly I don’t buy the DOJ-NSD spin. Why? The reason is simple, the DOJ is claiming in the letter the predication was still valid… if the DOJ-NSD genuinely didn’t know about the FBI manipulation, they would be informing the court in 2018 the DOJ no longer supported the FISA application due to new information. They did not do that. Instead, in July 2018, they specifically told the court the predicate was valid, yet the DOJ-NSD knew it was not.

The last point about the July 2018 letter is perhaps the most jarring. Again, keep in mind when it was written Chris Wray is FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy and Dana Boente is FBI chief legal counsel.

Their own FBI reports, by three different INSD and IG investigations; had turned up seriously alarming evidence going back to the early 2017 time-frame; the results of which ultimately led to the DC FBI office losing all of their top officials; and knowing the letter itself was full of misleading and false information about FBI knowledge in/around Christopher Steele; this particular sentence is alarming:

“The FBI has reviewed this letter and confirmed its factual accuracy?”


As we have just shared, the July 2018 letter itself is filled with factual inaccuracies, misstatements and intentional omissions. So who exactly did the 2018 “reviewing”?

This declassification release raises more questions than any other in recent memory. Perhaps AG Bill Barr will now start asking some rather hard questions to FBI Director Christopher Wray.

Here’s the Full Letter. I strongly suggest everyone read the 14-pages slowly. If you know the background, this letter is infuriating…


It is not accidental the fraudulent letter to the FISA court was written on July 12, 2018.

This is the exact same timeframe when the DOJ and FBI were involved in two other operations, two cover-up operations, to protect their prior activity.

The position of Bill Barr today is a direct result of decisions made by the DOJ in the summer of 2018.  The events surrounding the leaking of the FISA warrant used against U.S. person Carter Page, and the 2018 DOJ decision not to prosecute SSCI Security Director James Wolfe for those leaks, was the fork in the road moment for the DOJ.

This was the point of no return…

This is when every downstream action had to be taken to cover-up these decisions…

Everything since has been designed to protect three specific cover-up operations…

In the summer of 2018 Attorney General Jeff Session was recused, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein was in charge and the Mueller investigation was ongoing. That was when the DOJ made a decision not to prosecute SSCI Security Director James Wolfe for leaking classified information (The Page FISA Warrant).

As a result of people at the highest level of power and authority making a decision to protect themselves and the gross abuses of power by current and former DC officials and politicians…. DC-based U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu signed-off on a plea deal where Wolfe plead guilty to only a single count of lying to the FBI.

If the DOJ had pursued the case against Wolfe for leaking the FISA application, everything would have been different. The American electorate would have seen evidence of what was taking place in the background effort to remove President Trump. We would be in an entirely different place today if that prosecution or trial had taken place.

Three events revealed the Wolfe issue and highlight the cover-up:

EVENT ONE – On February 9th, 2018, the media reported on text messages from 2017 between Senate Intelligence Committee Vice-Chairman Mark Warner and Chris Steele’s lawyer, a lobbyist named Adam Waldman.

EVENT TWO – Four months after the Mark Warner texts were made public, on June 8th, 2018, another headline story surfaced. An indictment for Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Security Director James Wolfe was unsealed on June 7th, 2018.

EVENT THREE – Slightly less than two months after release of the Wolfe indictment, another headline story. On July 21st, 2018, the DOJ/FBI declassified and publicly released the FISA application(s) used against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.

♦ Later on December 14th 2018 a fourth albeit buried public release confirmed everything. The FBI filed a sentencing recommendation proving it was the Carter Page FISA that was leaked by Wolfe:

So on July 12, 2018, the DOJ and FBI were lying to the FISA court; and telling the court there was reasonable justification for the Carter Page FISA warrant, when they knew that was false.  At the same time the DOJ and FBI were debating what to do about SSCI Security Director James Wolfe leaking the FISA application.

But wait it gets worse….

Simultaneous to the decision to mislead the court; and simultaneous to the decision-making regarding Wolfe; there was yet another (a third) DOJ cover-up effort that was also necessary to retain the origin of the Russia-collusion fraud.

To further understand the decision-making of Rosenstein/Liu, as to why they hid the James Wolfe leak it is important to note the DOJ in the Eastern District of Virginia was creating the cover-story to block sunlight on the origin of how Wikileaks gained the leaked DNC emails.

On April 11th, 2019, the Julian Assange indictment was unsealed in the EDVA. From the indictment we discover it was under seal since March 6th, 2018:

(Link to pdf)

On Tuesday April 15th 2019 more investigative material was released. Again, note the dates: Grand Jury, *December of 2017* This means FBI investigation prior to….

The FBI investigation took place prior to December 2017, it was coordinated through the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) where Dana Boente was U.S. Attorney at the time. The grand jury indictment was sealed from March of 2018 until after Mueller completed his investigation, April 2019.

How does this all connect?

What does it mean?

James Wolfe was confronted about his leaking by the FBI in December of 2017. At the same time the FBI were investigating Wolfe and the SSCI, the FBI was also investigating Wikileaks and Julian Assange. This matters because it shows what the mindset was within the DOJ in late 2017 and early 2018.

In both examples, Wolfe and Assange, the actions by the DOJ reflect a predisposition to hide the much larger background story:

• A prosecution of Wolfe would have exposed a complicit conspiracy between corrupt U.S. intelligence actors and the United States senate. Two branches of government essentially working on one objective; the removal of a sitting president. The DOJ decision protected multiple U.S. agencies and congress.

• A non-prosecution of Assange would have exposed a complicit conspiracy between corrupt U.S. intelligence actors and a host of political interests who created a fraudulent Russia-collusion conspiracy with the central component of Russia “hacking” the DNC. If Assange were allowed to show he received the DNC emails from a leaker, and not from a hack, the central component of the Russia interference narrative would collapse. The DOJ decision protected multiple U.S. agencies and Robert Mueller.

As soon as Robert Mueller was going to release his Russia report, the EDVA shut down Assange with the DOJ indictment; in a similar way the DOJ shut down Wolfe with a weak plea agreement.

Again, the key takeaway here is the timing. Both DOJ operations were taking place at the same time (Fall 2017 through spring/summer 2018). Both hold a similar purpose.

What we can see from both DOJ operations is an intentional effort by Main Justice not to expose the epicenter of a multi-branch effort against the White House.

Some people within the FBI were obviously participating along with people within the DOJ. However, not all Washington DC FBI agents/officials were involved. We know there were genuine investigators, at least in the Wolfe case, because their investigative evidence shows Wolfe was leaking classified information. If they did not present the investigative evidence that proves Wolfe leaked, quite simply we wouldn’t have it to show you.

Unfortunately, in hindsight we can see something internally within the DOJ happened because the FBI evidence against Wolfe was buried. Some high-level group inside the DOJ in Washington DC, in the Summer of 2018, was making decisions on what NOT to do.

These two events highlight corruption within the DOJ that existed despite the presence of AG Jeff Sessions, and apparently with the participation of DAG Rod Rosenstein.

The decisions in the Wolfe case are critical. That’s the fork in the road. If the Wolfe prosecution had continued it would have undoubtedly surfaced that key government officials and politicians were working together (executive and legislative).

The ramifications of the Wolfe case are stunning. Had the prosecution continued it’s very likely a seditious conspiracy would have surfaced.

♦ I often field a question: If you know this; if all of this information is in the public sphere; then why didn’t any member of the media cover it?

Here’s the answer: They couldn’t….

…..At least they couldn’t cover it and still retain all of the claims they had been making since March 2017 when journalist Ali Watkins gained a fully non-redacted copy of the Carter Page FISA application and first renewal.

Politico, The New York Times, CNN, MSNBC and The Washington Post are all implicated in the James Wolfe leak to Ali Watkins. They had the FISA information since March 2017, yet those media outlets were disingenuously falsifying their reporting on the actual content of the FISA application despite their actual knowledge.

Remember all of the media denials about what Devin Nunes wrote in the “Nunes memo”? Remember the media proclaiming the Steele Dossier was not part of the FISA application?

How was the media fifteen months later (July 2018) going to report on the Wolfe leak to Watkins without admitting they had been manufacturing stories about its content for the past year-and-a-half?

It was in the media’s interest NOT to cover, or dig into, the Wolfe story.

Additionally, from both the DOJ and Media perspective, coverage of the Wolfe leak would prove the senate intel committee (SSCI) was, at a minimum, a participating entity in the coup effort. That same SSCI is responsible for oversight over the CIA, FBI, DOJ-NSD, ODNI, DNI, and all intelligence agencies.

Worse yet, all officers within those agencies require confirmation from the SSCI (including Chair and Vice-Chair); and any discussion of the Wolfe leak would highlight the motive for ongoing corruption within the SSCI in blocking those nominations (see John Ratcliffe).

Stunning ramifications.

There was a clear fork in the road and the DOJ took the path toward a cover-up; which, considering what the DOJ was simultaneously doing with Mueller and the EDVA regarding Assange, is not entirely surprising.

Was that decision wrong? Oh hell yes, it was corrupt as heck. .

Were the decisions done with forethought to coverup gross abuses of government? Yes.

Where the DOJ is today is directly connected to the decisions the DOJ made in 2017 and 2018 to protect themselves and internally corrupt actors from discovery.

It is often said: “the coverup is always worse than the crime.” This is never more true than with these examples, because where we are today… now miles down the path of consequence from those corrupt decisions… is seemingly disconnected from the ability of any institutional recovery. That’s now the issue for Bill Barr.

If Bill Barr wanted to deal with the issue he would not be telling President Trump to stop talking about the corruption; instead he would be holding a large press conference to explain to the American people about that fork in the road.

That type of honest sunlight delivery means taking people back into the background of the larger story and explaining what decisions were made; with brutal honesty and without trepidation for the consequences, regardless of their severity and regardless of the friends of Bill Barr compromised by the truth.

Here’s a big reason why Bill Barr should take that approach: We Know.

We know; the DOJ trying to hide it doesn’t change our level of information.

Regardless of whether Bill Barr actually admits what surrounds him, there are people who know…

We know….

You know….

AG Bill Barr shouting at President Trump ‘don’t tweet‘ like the Wizard of Oz doesn’t change the fact the curtain has been removed.

Turn around Bill, it’s time to come clean.

…”Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”..

~ H. L. Mencken

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489 Responses to Open Letter to Attorney General Bill Barr – “We The People” Already Know…

  1. ConservativeHawk says:

    Kudos to sundance for this informative piece! I would say it’s a piece of the puzzle, but there is no longer a puzzle to solve.


  2. Bogeyfree says:

    To All Americans,

    This is the record of the DOJ to date. When one reads the list the question must be asked, is it even possible for no crimes and no indictments on ANY of this???

    So let’s recap all of the “incidents” that have occurred over the past few years and you tell me if truth and justice is paramount anymore and if there isn’t a two tier system of justice within DC!

    1) Uranium One – No Crimes, No Indictments
    2) Hammer 47 Hard Drives – No Crimes, No Indictments
    3) Anwan Brothers – No Crimes, No Indictments
    4) HRC Unsecured Server & 33K Emails – No Crimes, No Indictments
    5) Wiener Laptop Contents – No Crimes, No Indictments (outside Wiener)
    6) DNC Server Hack – Alleged Crime, No Indictments
    7) Seth Rich murder – No arrests
    8) Fake Dossier and fraud on FISA Court 4 times – No Crimes, No Indictments
    9) Years of FISA Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments
    10) Years of FIB Contractor Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments
    11) Carter Page FISA Leak – No Crime for Leaking (just one count lying)
    12) Numerous other Classified Leaks – No Crimes, No Indictments
    13) Numerous referrals to DOJ – No Crimes, No Indictments
    14) Numerous Agents violating policy – No Crimes, No Indictments
    15) Ukraine WB fraud – No Crimes, No Indictments
    16) Impeachment Fraud and made up narrative by House Leader – No Crimes, No Indictments
    17) Ukraine Money Laundering – No Crimes, No Indictments
    18) Epstein Death – No Crimes, No indictments
    19)Withholding and then losing exculpatory evidence and records in the General Flynn case as alleged by Sidney Powell.
    20)Phil Haney Murder – No Crimes, No Indictments
    Seriously, look at this list and virtually NOTHING from our Government. I’m not sure it is even statistically possible but here it is.

    It is time Mr. President………

    1) Slide Eugene Scalia over from Sec. of Labor to AG

    2) Because Sec. Scalia has already gone through the Senate confirmation process for the Sec of Labor position, no additional Senate approvals are needed.

    3) To help AG Scalia, appoint Sidney Powell as WH Justice Czar. (Note Obama appointed 45 Czars during his presidency)

    4) WH Appointees / Czars DO NOT Require Senate Confirmation so both Mr. Scalia and Ms. Powell can start tomorrow if necessary.

    5) In her role as Justice Czar, Sidney works daily with Durham and the US Attorney’s from St. Louis, Pittsburgh and Brooklyn to allow a second set of eyes and to ensure all stones are being turned over.

    6) You provide Mr. Scalia, Ms. Powell and Mr. Grenell all with full declass authority to read and review all unredacted documents related to both coups on your Presidency.

    7) Because of Sidney’s past experience and knowledge of the DOJ and how it should work vs how it has been working, she is perfect to help AG Scalia bring about equal justice and ensure real change within the DOJ and FBI.

    Not only IMO is it time to make the above change but IMO it is also time for a new AG and new WH Justice Czar to possibly investigate the current leadership team of the DOJ to ensure there has not been any obstruction of justice issues over the past 14 months.

    It is time to rip this wide open and IMO by making Sidney Powell the WH Justice Czar ASAP is the only way and IMO the only person who is not afraid to expose it all. (WH Czar – because she can’t be appointed and confirmed by the Senate Committee ).

    We know with Sidney she is a person of the highest integrity and has seen first hand, via all the past corruption and obstruction done by leaders in the DOJ and FIB in the General Flynn case.

    She won’t hide on thing IMO because that it is not who she is. IMO she is like Grenell, honest as the day is long.

    This is why she is IMO the perfect person to bring true equal justice for all while not being afraid to look to make sure all actions by the DOJ office these past 14 months are in line with the law.

    IT IS TIME MR. PRESIDENT, before it is too late.

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  3. Instructor says:

    I lose track of who is doing what to who and when , where and how , because it all reads like a strange book with to many twist and turns. All I know is Everyone is dirty, and C. T. H. Has never made it easy to understand for the common, simple man. We all know that D.C. and all government is dirty. So my question is is simple, what has been or going to be done about it ? Will the guilty go to jail? Will the change take place so it can’t happen again? If not , what is the point of it all? No I won’t read a book for the answer. A simple yes, no, or the word NOTHING, will do.


  4. Bogeyfree says:

    I wonder if Don Jr, who I’m told reads here could help set up a meeting where Sundance can sit down with the President?

    There truly is not a person who knows the facts the players, the documents and the timeline like Sundance.

    I don’t think even John Durham knows everything that Sundance knows

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    • butch cassidy says:

      Sundance is good however knowing more about this then Durham I think is a stretch. It’s been reported that Durham has been spending days in a secure area going over classified materials. And Sundance doesn’t get to interview any of these clowns. Also you gotta believe Trump knows all of this and more. The name of the game is how to indict and make it stick. What curtmilr posted just up thread is spot on.

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  5. Zorro says:

    So how many “We the People Know” letters and emails does Barr get this week?


  6. regitiger says:

    Thank you SD!!! Excellent as always. I’ve sent this article to everyone I know. I have also sent this to President Trump and his staffers.

    Now, I do have a question….I think it’s an important question. Like you, I focus on some of the tiniest details…little mistakes…confusing or vague issues.

    on the letter: “In the cover letter for this specific release to the Senate Judiciary and Senate Intelligence committees”

    this letter does not contain a date! Now, my understanding is that a letter without a date is not official. Affixing a date to a letter is just as crucial to authenticate official communications as a signature.!!

    I see a signature…I read the content…it all looks formal and official.

    but it DOES NOT contain a date…?

    What are your opinions about this? Obviously, this was done intentionally. It’s not plausible that the DOJ would have simply made an error and forgot to date the letter? So why do you suppose the DOJ intentionally decided to NOT date this letter?

    furthermore, in my former military career, official standards and practices held that significant command authority letters be controlled by a numbering system…anything related to command policy, legal matters, regulations, court material, art 15 procedural documentation, and of course anything related to violations evidence as well as classmat. The idea was to ensure that all correspondence of significance were assigned a special numbering scheme and unique each….this solution achieved was to ensure that master originals could not be easily forged or edited. There would always be a numbered master copy (marked as official copy) located in file by the originator. The date does not satisfy this standard, but is required on all official correspondence.

    I don’t want to steer this discussion off track, but I find it more than just dubious why a letter of such importance that is sent by the DOJ to Congress would not contain a date?

    is this a means to provide some future option that the letter can be argued as incomplete and “mistakes were made”…something like this was a working draft that was “shared” but was not meant to elevate to an actual policy statement or “official” position?

    The reason I tend to doubt this is just some minor mistake? The kinds of “mistakes” you have documented thus far has accumulated dozens upon dozens of real crimes? Given the obvious nature of the scope and scale, I am skeptical of any “official” correspondence regarding ANYTHING that DOJ may or may not have released.

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    • Tulips Moran (@TulipsMoran) says:

      For me it’s quite simple. There’s an awful lot of energy being expended on all this. The question however remains, “Is that effort a continuing coverup?” or “Is all that effort making sure cases are ticked and tied ensuring Justice for those criminals?”


      • RJ says:

        Ever hear the slogan: “You can’t teach an old dog new tricks!”? Ever ask the question:
        “Why not?”

        Let’s gather up some reasons why. “Son, I’ve been doing this for some time and here you come trying to tell me of a different way!” “It’s worked for me all this time, what makes you think I want to change?” “What makes you so smart, boy?”

        Rummage through Freud’s writings and see if he talks about “resistance” as to a person’s defense mechanism. Next, let’s go to Lorenz’s work On Aggression to see why “deception” is present in behaviors. Finally, some simple common sense thinking might be all we need: “If it waddles like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, if it swims like a duck, if it looks like a duck…it must be a duck!”

        Example: This week we may see General Flynn exonerated and his guilty plea thrown out…the General becoming a free man, although all his life savings lost to his former lawyers who were defending and advising him.

        What happens when the law firm of Covington…wait a minute…who is a big time player in that firm? None other than Mr. Wingman himself, Eric Holder! Bingo…I see a duck.

        Now we are back to “birds of a feather, flock together.” Off to the Country Club, dinner with Mueller and Comey, regulars.

        So, the question is: Are old dogs like birds of a feather? Did Attorney General Barr just drop by the dining table and chat with Comey and Mueller? Is that Rod over there at another table with Paul Ryan?

        Well, I’ll be damned!

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    • MelH says:



  7. rjones99 says:

    Ouch. The twitter IC fan boy narrative spinners have been FACED.

    Sundance you are an absolute American treasure. Your role in holding power to account will be remembered in history.

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  8. Martin says:

    Have we lost hope? A post such as this used to garner over a thousand comments.

    If I could talk to Barr I would mention the following.

    Our Unique Mandate: A government of the people, by the people, and for the people. I believe you and I will be held accountable for this mandate that has come to us at such a high price. The Congress and Senate take oaths. Are they relevant? Are they accountable? They are: before the Throne of God. A mandate and commitment to preserve and defend God-given rights embodied in the Constitution. Our duty is to stand for what is right.

    The Illiteracy of the Electorate: What is our biggest problem: Ignorance or Apathy? “I don’t know and I don’t care!”

    Our first priority: Knowing the truth about our leadership. This is the critical role of a free press, which we have lost, because they are not held accountable either.
    It is an abomination for kings to commit wicked acts, For a throne is established on righteousness. Proverbs 16:12

    The abandonment of righteousness weakens the seat of government and the stability and security of the nation. The abandonment of truth and loyalty to covenants undermines the leadership of a ruler (Prov 20:28).

    Bribery is a root issue of private truthfulness (Prov 29:4). Acting on principle rather than driven by expediency. Thus, when integrity is forsaken justice is overthrown. The minimizing of truthfulness corrupts others so that the entire government becomes corrupt (Prov 29:12). Private morality has vast public implications.


    • jeffsn4 says:

      MANY of those comments were from ardent Barr supporters. They’re probably still in denial at this point.


    • Sharon says:

      “Have we lost hope? A post such as this used to garner over a thousand comments.”

      Take time to consider the look on Maria Bartiromo’s face – I think it’s representative. That look, along with the wisdom of Suspicious Cat, pretty much covers anything a thinking person might have to say, in my opinion.

      And keep in mind that many comments are not actually responses but just reactions that can be boiled down to “Hey! We got ’em now! Fer sure!”…..just like they could twenty-four months ago. Such comments are not actually evidence-based hope.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Ray Runge says:

      Celebrate the new found hope with Richard Grennell. If Grennell has enough opportunity to deliver a stream of document requests to declassification status, just maybe the embarrassment will grow large enough that Bagpipes may be force to bring indictments.

      Grennell is new to the equation.


    • MelH says:

      All the time we talk about we need to do something. Our Country is being taken away from us. How about if each of us wrote a letter to Barr, and kept a copy we could use for a media flood, if need be. A canned letter would be a waste. How much trouble would it be for YOU to write just one letter, doesn’t have to be long, could attach a copy of the Sundance article we are responding to here. “We KNOW…” has to be meaningful to him because he can’t predict what we will do if it turns out NOT to matter to him, and he, in essence, approves of the cover-ups,


  9. regitiger says:

    It’s also important to understand that exposure of the conspiratorial coup, enabled by many, was made possible by the abuse of the most powerful spy programs authorized by congress.

    it is those spy programs (702, patriot act enhanced) that was originally designed to target foreign adversaries for a mission statement central to counter-terrorism.

    what has happened is that they programs have “evolved” unlawfully wrt to the very limits placed in law and by the principles of due process of constitution principle (the true and abiding law!) these secret courts and secret police powers have not “evolved” to spy on american citizens, on US soil.

    This IS the reason why AG Barr is not motivated to do much of anything! Once the real origins and how these corrupt coup plotters are exposed, it shows the spying apparatus for what it has become: a weapon that has been focused against the will of the people to unseat a president of the united states! And on further examination, it would be shown that the “proceeds” of the intelligence gathering secret parties is one that involves money laundering, blackmail, insider trading, manipulation of the press, corruption within congress, racketeering and bid rigging.

    This is what this kind of special secret police spying apparatus achieves…it is the highest prized commodity that has no other equal…

    it’s important to realize this for what these crimes all have in common:

    these crimes were committed by people who had access to special spy powers who have used them for their own self-enrichment, protection, and enhanced at the expense of anyone and anything that has represented a threat to that special access and power.

    President Trump was not compromised…he was seen as a threat. He had made several comments regarding his misstrust of the IC…well before we was oathed.

    is there really any surprise this coup was initiated in response to WHAT President Trump represented?

    Bear in mind, this same secret police spy power still remains very much active!!! Nothing of significance has changed at all.

    Expect more coups against this president…It WILL happen.

    The obvious answer is to abolish these laws that allow for FISA, 702, patriot.

    This MUST be the answer.

    Today, we see a president being attacked and failed coup.

    tomorrow…it is you!

    It’s just that simple.

    Liked by 1 person

    • jeffsn4 says:

      “This IS the reason why AG Barr is not motivated”

      Why on EARTH do people think Barr EVER wanted to do something about it? The guy is a Deep State POS and always has been!

      Liked by 3 people

    • Linda Piersma says:

      You are exactly right! 702 done on purpose for a way to corrupt and overtake an unwanted leadership who knows what’s really going on.


  10. StanH says:

    “From your mouth to God’s ears.”

    I believe good will eventually prevail.

    Liked by 1 person

  11. jeffsn4 says:

    To all the Barr defenders who have been bashing me for the last 9 months…..this one’s for you.


    • butch cassidy says:

      What “one’s for you”? This post by sundance? sundance doesn’t come to the conclusion that Barr won’t do anything, He just says it’s time to do something. Barr has stated that Durham should wrap things up by the end of spring or early summer, that time is fast approaching.I have no idea what Barr is going to do but interesting things are happening, mostly the Flynn case. I see that as a positive. I’ll wait and see. You are already on record as to what is going to happen.

      Liked by 1 person

      • jeffsn4 says:

        Oh my God, man. You are in COMPLETE denial. You will believe in that POS until the day you die. Barr isn’t doing ANYTHING!!!!!!


        • AnotherView says:

          I agree. And Durham isn’t going to do anything either. It’s Sessions/Huber 2.0. Barr is a bag man, a fixer. Ruby Ridge always comes to mind whenever I see his pic.

          Liked by 1 person

          • Johnny Andrew says:

            AG FUBarr is the best to cover for all these spy vs spy m-peach-mint criminals.
            FUBarr was GHW Bush IRAN CONTRA cover AG – ole Reagan ate jelly beans.
            Reed’s book – “Compromised – Clinton, Bush & the CIA” – FUBarr had practice
            to cover and protect all these deep state criminals. No one prosecuted. MENA.
            Now FUBarr’s DOJ slow walks it all. Nothing to see here folks!
            So “fuhgeddaboudit”.
            Sidney Powell will be blocked by FUBarr’s DOJ to free General Flynn.
            Deep state “ball-of-worms” is too complex for Joe 6-pack to connect dots.
            God Bless Trump trying to expose them all – too many criminals to catch.
            The election clock runs down – no charges – spying continues in the USA.
            Where’s Rudy’s Ukrainian charges on crooked ole dementia Joe and Jr?
            Sorry, too many political snakes to kill – they all go free!
            Think about it!
            Wake me up after the 1st spy gets prosecuted in a DC court.
            I wish and hope they ALL get convicted before we check out.
            Sleep on it – Rumpelstiltskin


  12. borndwebb says:

    When the tea party started, they mailed tea bags to congress etc. Though that movement was not part of what became the Tea Party. The mail the tea bag movement came out of one popular website for market Traders. Weeks within that out of nowhere came another movement. Which was soon corrupted or was from the start to perhaps stop the original.

    May I suggest a movement on the same line.

    Now real tea bags or a picture, a tea bag might set off alarms, intercept.

    Picture of a tea bag cut to size to fit in an envelope , with a note tied to a string connected to teabag.



    From there, WE KNOW rally’s

    Simple, send to President, DOJ, FBI, etc.

    And you decide if you need to wear gloves,

    Liked by 1 person

  13. Bogeyfree says:

    Why is Sidney Powell the perfect person to be AG or at least WH Justice Czar?

    Because she is the only one who knows and understands the two primary issues that when exposed will truly lead to and take to the TOP DOGS.

    Russia Collusion, Spygate, Obstruction and Impeachment are the cover up vehicles.

    Yes they were also intended to take down PT but were put in motion to also hide all of the illegal spying on Americans since 2009 via the Hammer Program AND then the NSA Contractor Abuse.

    Only Sidney understands if you investigate and expose how they took a FOREIGN intelligence tool (i.e. the Hammer Program) and flipped it in Feb 2009 to a DOMESTIC spying tool and then continued this illegal spying via NSA Contractor Abuse (i.e. building the database) that this is the ONLY way to get to the TOP DOGS.

    As IMO this is the trail that most likely WILL lead to who gave the orders to do all of this.

    So yes Russia Collusion, Mueller Investigation, FISA and Impeachment will get a bunch of the weaponized henchmen but IMO it WILL NOT get you the TOP DOGS.

    Back in 2009 there was not that many layers to hide and cover the conversion of a foreign surveillance tool to a domestic surveillance tool.

    Thus it would IMO be much easier to trace down who and how this happened. In essence you can find who ordered the code red easier via the Hammer Program than through all the layers upon layers upon layers of people used under Spygate.

    Spygate is the COVER UP. The real crimes began in Feb 2009 IMO. To build out the biggest database on millions of Americans and officials in DC for one purpose – FUTURE LEVERAGE.

    And this opinion isn’t mine as it comes directly from the lips of Registered Whistleblower, Dennis Montgomery who helped design and used the Hammer Program to spy on Americans.

    Ask yourself one question, why is EVERYONE in DC afraid to open up and investigate the Hammer Program? Why were even Republican Senators afraid to put Montgomery on the stand around the same time Nunes went to the SCIF room that first time?

    Think through the full timeline. From the Hammer Program came ALL the next steps.

    Sidney Powell, because she knows about the Hammer Program, because she knows about the FIB using contractors to gather data on Americans, because she knows all the players involved and because she has lived it first hand with the Flynn Case is the perfect dog on a bone that Americans and IMO PT need.

    Sidney IMO is the ONLY person who knows it all and knows to look back all the way to 2009 if you want to expose EVERYTHING and get the TOP DOGS!

    Liked by 6 people

  14. 335blues says:

    How much evidence is disappearing under Barr’s watch?
    Barr is stalling while information, notes and evidence are destroyed
    and erased. This is why Barr is called ‘the fixer’ by criminals
    in the DOJ and FBI. Also notice that NOT ONE SINGLE
    of Hannity’s “rank and file good guys” has come forward
    to whistleblow on the coup plotters. Where are these
    good guys???
    “They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips.” Romans 3:12-13.

    Liked by 2 people

    • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

      There were no good guys in the USG under Obama. He unlike The Donald purged them right off the bat. There is NOT one department in the USG that isn’t a dem stronghold. The fact this Flynn deal is still going on 3 years deep into Trump’s stay tells you nobody in the justice dept is on Trump’s team. Nobody.

      Liked by 2 people

  15. JG3 says:

    Dutch history lesson from the 19th century: it took a little boy’s alertness to the dyke leak he spotted to sound the alarm; prevent the dyke from being breached, hold the water back, and save the country.

    American history lesson from 21st century: it took a strong man’s alertness to the corruption he spotted to sound the alarm; prevent the lawlessness, hold them accountable, and save the country.


    • Beau Geste says:

      But in this case, we are dying of thirst. Our farmlands are parched in a truth dustbowl.
      AG Barr and Wray are frantically blocking the irrigation pipes and sticking their fingers in the small leaks to our honest farmers Sidney Powell and Judicial Watch.

      Our honest water department run by our Gulliver, PDJT, is tied down by SES Lilliputians so he can’t get to the valves.

      We need some cracks in the redaction dam.


  16. gda53 says:

    Who wants to get rid of Barr?

    Well, the Dems certainly do. 44 of them voted against his confirmation. MOST tellingly, the most compromised GOP Sen. Richard Burr (yes, him again) did NOT vote at all.

    The President has confidence in Barr, as does Sydney Powell.

    That means to me that anyone who wants to get rid of Barr is not PDJT’s friend and is more than likely to be either in league with, or being played by, the Dems and the never-Trump GOP.

    Can we separate the sheep (those being played), from the goats (those actively assisting the real players)? The sheep seem to be in ascendance, judging from many comments here.

    Sure, lets get rid of Barr and get someone REALLY good. Someone that Richard Burr will approve of. /s

    Liked by 3 people

    • Beau Geste says:

      Barr is a ‘compromise’. Not as bad as sessions, who let the crooks and FISC court run completely free, but not as good as someone like Sidney Powell who would try to clean out the rot, and would not protect SES and congresscritters and their bribers, ‘donors’, kickbacks, vote-buyers, contract-fixers and deep-state cohorts.
      Barr had already proven himself as cover-up candidate. His part in the ‘compromise’ may just be to try to make the DOJ/FBI/CIA slightly less overtly partisan and political.

      Liked by 1 person

      • butch cassidy says:

        How has Barr proven himself as a cover up candidate? The only thing that he hasn’t done is go after Comely and McCabe, but there is a consensus that those charges would have be hard to prosecute and that there are other bigger crimes to get them with.I don’t know where Barr will end up here but I don’t think he has shown his hand at all.


  17. Dee says:

    I sent it to the DOJ!! With a little note to do the right thing… so over all of this…

    Liked by 1 person

    • BobR says:

      When I looked at the salaries of gov workers and political offices when considering a career I didn’t think it would be enough for what I wanted to earn. Never dawned on me to be a criminal and take down a president to supplement my income.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Beau Geste says:

        And, there is no income tax when you put your bribes in a “Foundation” or “not-for-profit-except for my ‘expenses’ (audited by lois lerner)

        Liked by 1 person

  18. JCM800 says:

    Thank you Sundance,
    Would you please continue the Open Letter To AG Barr every week, as things continue to evolve?
    JCM 800


  19. navysquid says:

    I hope that many on here realize WE do not have all the data and information AG Barr, Attorney Durham, and POTUS have at their disposal. I’ve been involved overseas in counter-intelligence and intelligence programs where, yes, it is OBVIOUS from an outsider’s perspective of the nefarious activities going on and people saying “C’mon, pull the trigger on the arrest or detainment!” However, when the people on the inside have a BIGGER objective and KNOW what the goal in mind is, “pulling the trigger” on the obvious is NOT in your best interest of the larger goal.

    My thoughts are is that POTUS is aware of everything going on in the IC and will let us all know when he sees AG Barr, Durham, or others going astray from the larger goal. Patience…it took the Deep State years to build their empire it’s going to take a while for us to dismantle the key pieces so we capture the Kingpins of the operation. The revelation of the LTG Flynn Brady information was a huge start…

    Liked by 2 people

    • regitiger says:

      The problem here is rather obvious.

      The very people who were approved and delegated authority to spy and collect and then perform fraud on order to continue A COUP are some of the same kinds of people who and others have likely operated in the same apparatus. No insult intended.

      Think about what happened!??


      Have you EVER witnessed such criminal conspiratorial within the very IC , FBI, CIA?

      To perform a coup, intentionally, to use the most powerful spy powers And corrupt treasonous criminal violations to manufacture fraud against a presidential candidate AND to continue doing so after house oath???

      There is nothing ordinary about these crimes! That this was designed and created and pushed by the highest levels of government doesn’t shake you too your soul?

      The fact that rapid sweeping arrests at o dark hundred for short 400 people over a year ago never happened tried me this isn’t just a lack of proportionate justice to.the crimes but that there is zero interest within DOJ or This Congress to actually hold criminals accountable. Further, it’s rather obvious to me and many others that these spy powers are being guarded against any scrutiny.

      That’s the 8,000,000 ton Gorilla in there room!

      Spying on Americans based purely on some criminal cosiest like conspiracy to destroy them. All of this was predicted.

      And here we are… The state knows this. But refuses to limit these powers on any way. They don’t even want to have the conversation!!!

      This is why this DOJ isn’t ever going to do anything of significance. Any serious true justice would risk looking at these spy powers.

      This current installment of state actors see only power influence and money at risk. This is what these secret police state spy powers mean to them.

      And why Congress authorised them.

      Let me ask you:. What fisa approval was required for your teams to Target foreign adversaries?

      Yeah. I didn’t think so.

      What we are talking about here:. The state is actively spying on American citizens. Unoathed civilian contractors stealing information that should be protected by the 4th. IC leaders using that information to destroy lives.

      Let’s not try to conflate your foreign targets and those missions to what has happened and what continues to be deafening ignored by Congress and DOJ!!


      • navysquid says:

        regitiger…You’re assuming I don’t see or care for the obvious. I do. My statement is factual. We do NOT know what is going on behind the scenes with AG Barr, Durham, and POTUS. I agree with everything you said about the corruption and it is Jacked Up!

        My overseas story was to explain how many times my teams were told to “execute” the trigger when we KNEW we hadn’t collected everything for the mission. Pulling the trigger now on some of these individuals may cause everything they’ve been working on to crumble and we all wouldn’t want that to happen. I don’t want to see Comey, Rice, McCabe, HRC, Obama, Strozk and Page, etc, walk…their time is coming.

        POTUS, et al within the DOJ haven’t collected all the information to bring a successful case and that is building. One example to me that AG Barr is on our side is that he dispatched outside counsel (Missouri) to look over and release Flynn’s case material. AG Barr doesn’t know (I believe) who he can trust within the DC DOJ.


        • regitiger says:

          My opinion shared by MANY here and elsewhere is that DOJ has sufficient evidence for arrests as far back as 14 months ago!

          It’s important to recognize this because as “we” are learning the DOJ has ok knowledge and provable evidence of these crimes for quite a long time.

          Think of it this way.

          Flynn arrested immediately.

          Stone. Arrested immediately

          PapaD Arrested immediately.

          42 Millions dollars and almost 2 years of a special counsel fraud investigation.

          And for legitimate crimes well documented …even perjury before Congress by at least 6 people, some multiple occasions.

          And we don’t have a single arrest?

          Not one indictment filed in court?

          I was not assuming you do not care. I’m just making a honest appraisal of the respect for timely swift justice… it doesn’t exist.

          Why that is explains the true crimes no one is willing to even discuss.

          Patriot act, 702.

          The institutions are dragging us along for a ride.. it’s plain to see.

          Criminalizing these coup conspirators means examining complicity at the highest levels for secret police spy state powers that nearly everyone in Congress and that agencies enjoy to enhance their careers and wallets.

          We need to burn that down.

          That was THE SWAMP President Trump campaigned and promised to eliminate.

          Let’s never forget what this battle is about.

          We are waging WAR against the deepest most criminal element that is now a key force in central government.

          If these powers are allowed to continue no one will be safe. We can just light the Constitution on fire and toss the flag.

          We will become China.

          But worse. China has never experienced freedom and liberty!!

          We will have it stolen from us. The very thing that makes America a true marvelous innovation.

          Stolen and beat down by technocrats and corrupt federal officials acting in accordance only with the corrupt plans of the state.

          This must end now.


  20. rayvandune says:

    With respect to Gen. Flynn’s persecution, do the delays in “processing” the 302s of his interviews perhaps reflect a shifting in strategy on the part of the DOJ / FBI away from simply getting him fired, to getting him convicted? Getting him fired unjustly could be made to look like a stab in the back from the President, a potential inducement to compose “dirt” for the Prosecutors, which Flynn claims he was asked to do.

    Once Flynn refused, he then had to be prosecuted for a crime, and the report from the interviewing agents that he did not appear to be being deceptive worked against that, and had to be changed. The original assessment that he was being truthful would have of course fit in nicely with a “whistleblower” role that the DOJ / FBI were perhaps originally grooming him for!


  21. Jerry Hodge says:

    If Trump wants to have real sunlight on everything that has gone down with Spygate, he should appoint Mike Flynn to ODNI head after he gets exonerated. The senate hearing to “vet” him would help expose a lot that has transpired during the past three years and would also make Flynn like a victim. If anyone is incentivized to rectify matters by exposing (via declassification) all the perps, it’s Flynn.


    • butch cassidy says:

      I think Flynn, at this point, has too much baggage for him to be brought aboard Trumps team, and the senate sure as hell doesn’t want him testifying and they probably wouldn’t ask him any real questions anyways. Having said that, I sure think we all would love to hear what he has to say about his last 10 years or so. He knows where the bodies are buried and after what they have done to him and his family he’s probably jumping out of skin to let everyone know what he knows. He’d better watch his back.

      Liked by 1 person

  22. oldguy05 says:

    5/23/2016 = Amateur License – KM4UDZ – Ohr, Nellie H
    Why did she get this license? Just a ham radio fan? Her hobby? Couldn’t be for communication could it? I mean. she had a cell phone, right?

    As President then candidate, Donald J. Trump was being “investigated” and then drug through the mud for Russian collusion, this woman with a doctorate in history from “Stanford” and a Harvard degree in “Russian literature”, who worked as a CIA contractor for years who them worked for Fusion GPS, gets a ham license in the middle of all this? Nothing to see here….right?

    Liked by 2 people

  23. islandpalmtrees says:

    The open double standard

    In the 14 page document we find this ” As an update. Papadopoulos subsequently pled guilty
    on or about October 5, 2017, to making false statements to the FBI in his January 2017 interview in
    violation of 18 US.C. § 1001, and is currently awaiting sentencing”.

    How many times have we seen members of the FBI and CIA, such as Comey, Brennan and Mccabe lie to the public. In one case, no-one was damaged by the lie, in the orther case the government of the United State was thrown into unending investigations and even efforts of impeachment.

    It seems, it does not matter what you have lied about, only who lied. When will Comey, Brennan and Mccabe go to jail, too?

    Liked by 2 people

  24. Jan says:

    Sundance, this is another brilliant piece of work. Thank you!!

    Liked by 1 person

  25. Johnny Andrew says:

    AG FUBarr is the best to cover for all these spy vs spy m-peach-mint criminals.
    FUBarr was GHW Bush IRAN CONTRA cover AG – ole Reagan ate jelly beans.
    Reed’s book – “Compromised – Clinton, Bush & the CIA” – FUBarr had practice
    to cover and protect all these deep state criminals. No one prosecuted. MENA.
    Now FUBarr’s DOJ slow walks it all. Nothing to see here folks!
    So “fuhgeddaboudit”.
    Sidney Powell will be blocked by FUBarr’s DOJ to free General Flynn.
    Deep state “ball-of-worms” is too complex for Joe 6-pack to connect dots.
    God Bless Trump trying to expose them all – too many criminals to catch.
    The election clock runs down – no charges – spying continues in the USA.
    Where’s Rudy’s Ukrainian charges on crooked ole dementia Joe and Jr?
    Sorry, too many political snakes to kill – they all go free!
    Think about it!
    Wake me up after the 1st spy gets prosecuted in a DC court.
    I wish and hope they ALL get convicted before we check out.
    Sleep on it – Rumpelstiltskin


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