Oh My, Interesting Ramifications – FISA Court Requires DOJ/FBI To Provide Names of Targets Within Corrupt Surveillance Applications…

Things are getting interesting, potential ramifications are growing, as the FISA Court responds to the latest information from the DOJ Office of Inspector General (OIG).

After a review of 29 FISA applications, from eight FBI field offices, the OIG informed the FBI and DOJ that none of the surveillance applications were compliant with the Woods procedures. Meaning zero applications had FBI evidence to support the validity of the claims within the FISA warrants.  That’s a very big problem if those FISA warrants were used to gather evidence used to prosecute the 29 targets of the applications.

In a FISC order released today [pdf here] presiding Judge James Boasberg is ordering the FBI to identify who those targets were; and asking the DOJ to explain what they did with the evidence gathered as a result of the fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.  Big.

[pdf here]

If evidence obtained by execution of a fraudulently obtained warrant was used in the prosecution of any of those targets; there’s a possibility those cases will be reopened.

Considering the twenty nine applications from the OIG go back to 2015, there’s a lot of potential for some downstream consequences not only for those 29 applications, but also for all FBI FISA applications with a similar level of neglect.

In the issue of the Carter Page application the DOJ and FBI were already looking into how far the ripple effects carried.  The FBI was already undertaking a ‘sequestration effort’ to identify the fruit of the poisonous tree; and the results are still unknown.

This order from Judge Boasberg essentially expands that type of review upon another 29 applications and demands the DOJ identify to the court who were the targets.  The court can then, on their own, look and see if any of those U.S. persons were prosecuted in court.

This is a hot mess…. And it is far from over.

You can read Boasberg’s order HERE.

BACKSTORY – The OIG began reviewing FISA applications from eight field offices (the proverbial “rank and file”). The OIG selected 29 FISA applications from those field offices over the period of October 2014 to September 2019. Additionally, every field office and the DOJ-NSD generate internal “Accuracy Reviews”, or self-checks on FISA applications; so the OIG inspected 42 of the accuracy review FISA files to determine if they were compliant.

The results were so bad the IG produced an interim memorandum to the DOJ and FBI [pdf link here]. Within the 17-page-memo the IG notifies Attorney General Bill Barr and FBI Director Chris Wray that all of the claimed FISA processes, in every field office, are grossly deficient, and in most cases there is zero compliance with FISA standards. The IG memorandum is presented before the IG even looks at the specifics of the non-compliance.

Below is the report/memorandum. Additionally I am summarizing the stunning top-lines identified by the IG memo:

  • The IG reviewed 29 FISA applications, surveillance warrants, used against U.S. persons.
  • The 29 FISA applications were from eight different field offices.
  • The FISA applications were from Oct/2014 through Sept/2019.
  • All of the FISA applications reviewed were approved by the FISA court.

The ‘Woods File’ is the mandatory FBI evidence file that contains the documentary proof to verify all statements against U.S. persons that are contained in the FISA application. Remember, this is a secret court, the FISA applications result in secret surveillance and wiretaps against U.S. persons outside the fourth amendment.

♦ Within the 29 FISA applications reviewed, four were completely missing the Woods File. Meaning there was zero supportive evidence for any of the FBI claims against U.S. persons underpinning the FISA application. [ie. The FBI just made stuff up]

♦ Of the remaining 25 FISA applications, 100% of them, all of them, were materially deficient on the woods file requirement; and the average number of deficiencies per file was 20. Meaning an average of twenty direct statements against the target, supporting the purpose of the FISA application, sworn by the FBI affiant, were unsubstantiated. [The low was 5, the high was 63, the average per file was 20]

♦ Half of the FISA applications reviewed used Confidential Human Sources (CHS’s). The memo outlines that “many” of applications containing CHS claims had no supportive documentation attesting to the dependability of the CHS.

♦ Two of the 25 FISA applications reviewed had renewals; meaning the FISA applications were renewed to extended surveillance, wiretaps, etc. beyond the initial 90-days. None of the renewals had any re-verification. Both FISAs that used renewals were not compliant.

But wait… it gets worse.

The DOJ and FBI have an internal self-check mechanism. The DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) chief counsel, and the chief counsel for every FBI field office are required to conduct an “Accuracy Review” of selected FISA applications. One per field office (25 to 30 field offices),which are also sent to DOJ-NSD (main justice) for general counsel inspection.

Keep in mind, these “accuracy reviews” are known in advance, so the FBI has all the time in the world to select the best FISA file for review. Additionally, I surmise the OIG wanted to inspect the “accuracy review” FISA’s because they would show the best light on the overall system itself. The OIG was looking for the best, most compliant, product to report on.

However, when the OIG inspected 42 of these Accuracy Reviews, the IG identified that only three of them had accurately assembled documents (Woods File) supporting the application. The error rate within the files self-checked was over 93%.

So the best FBI files are selected to undergo the FBI and DOJ-NSD accuracy review. The accuracy review takes place by FBI legal counsel and DOJ-NSD legal counsel. However, the IG finds that only three FBI applications in the accuracy reviews were compliant.

The error rate in the files undertaken by the internal accuracy review was over 93% (3 compliant out of 42 reviewed). These were the FISA files with the greatest possibility of being accurate. Let that sink in…

Here’s the OIG Report/Memorandum:

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287 Responses to Oh My, Interesting Ramifications – FISA Court Requires DOJ/FBI To Provide Names of Targets Within Corrupt Surveillance Applications…

  1. Pale rider says:

    Anybody remember when Nunes warned ‘that if no prosecutions were made then we would have bigger problems’? This is what it looks like in real life. And guess what, it will just keep getting worse until we are finished unless justice is served. From the crooked mayors all the way up.

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  2. Jim in TN says:

    Never forget. The entire DOJ is corrupt. It is quite obviously systematic corruption. Supported and covered up by leadership. Influenced by politics. The whole nine yards.

    Festering pus like this is going to be bursting upon the scene over and over until somebody does a thorough cleansing. Again and again we are going to have to retry criminals or let them free because prosecutors and officers are corrupt.

    Coverups are bound to fail. The truth will eventually come out. Barr is just prolonging the misery. But that doesn’t matter because he is part of the corruption he is trying to coverup.

    Fire Barr and clean it all up.

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    • coolmamie says:

      Why has Trump not appointed a Special Counsel or another outside entity to investigate the DOJ(including FBI)? I am not big on Special Counsels, but surely the DOJ cannot investigate itself.

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      • PS says:

        3 years ago, the argument was we didn’t need a Special Council because it would take too long, and there already were all those grand jury sequestered documents and Guantanamo was expanding and we are going to surprise arrest everyone and something was going to happen and …. how did all that work out?

        Kind of makes you say they should have just SC’d right , instead it’s like we were all waiting in a giant queue….

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        • flyboy46 says:

          PS
          I hate to rain on your parade, but you seem to have a problem realizing the SIZE of this job. If these files were the best files they selected, and 93% were “bad” for various reasons, that means that virtually ALL of the FISA files were bad. Now they have to look at ALL the cases associated with those files, and figure out IF the bad files led to a conviction, should the whole case be thrown out. We probably talking hundreds of cases. Then you need to look at whether the agents broke the law, and should they be prosecuted? You are standing at the bottom of Mt. Everest, looking straight ahead thru a small tube, thinking you see the whole mountain. Not quite accurate. Monumental job ahead, and Judge Boasburg probably doesn’t want his name on a further cover up.

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    • johnny andrew says:

      Yes, and also fire Robert Johnson too!
      ,,,and urinate on ole man Bush’s grave!

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    • Pale rider says:

      At this point, let Barr drowned in pus, he will be seen as the incompetent boob he is OR get busy.

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  3. Appleman says:

    Doesn’t not say good things about the court overseeing the warrants, either. It’s one thing to miss an occasional omission, but not seeing that there isn’t any back-up suggest no one was paying attention, or worse.

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  4. dcnnc says:

    “The OIG selected 29 FISA applications from those field offices over the period of October 2014 to September 2019. ”

    I wonder what the significance of this specific date range is. As Justice Colyer already outlined, they found breaches of the NSA database going back to 2012.

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    • BigTalkers says:

      2012 was the spying they were doing for Obama during his reelection campaign.

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      • dcnnc says:

        Yes, I know. But such spying would also require a FISA warrant, so why only go back to 2014? Just curious…

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        • MagaMia says:

          excerpt from Boasberg’s order:
          “The OIG reviewed 29 applications for U.S.-person targets originating in eight FBI field offices from the period from October 20I4 to September 2019. Id. at 2. That period predates actions taken by the FBI to improve the accuracy and completeness of FISA applications in response to serious errors and omissions in four applications regarding Carter W. Page.”

          Notice that the time period sampled conveniently PREDATES Christopher Wray’s “corrective actions” described in his 12/06/2019 letter to IG Horowitz.
          https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-director-christopher-wray-response-to-inspector-general-report

          Is Boasberg’s order designed to deflect scrutiny from known FISA crimes committed at FBI headquarters (WHERE’S DURHAM?) as we turn our attention instead to a sample of crimes committed at 8 of 56 FBI field offices?

          Job security for Wray?

          IG Atkinson not so lucky, heh, heh, heh….

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        • iwasthere says:

          Nope, pretty sure all that spying was done without a FISA warrant. As I recall that was exposing a joint program office (CIA/FBI/?) set of contractors created via MOU between Brennan and Comey. Heck they had a software program running in “test” mode, for years?, data mining the entire database.

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        • MagaMia says:

          2013 Edward Snowden

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  5. MaineCoon says:

    Anti-climatic for me. It’s all just background noise to me.

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  6. Bogeyfree says:

    The single best advice I’ve heard anyone give PT to date and this is why Sidney should be a WH Justice Czar and then the new AG come Nov.

    “If I were the President, I would DEMAND the Anthony Wiener Laptop and get it to my most trusted person in the military to take apart everything on it and start using it. There’s a lot that can be prosecuted on that Laptop.

    I heard that some of the NYPD officers who saw some of it even though they are hardened investigators literally had to go throw up. It’s bad!”

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  7. safvetblog says:

    The Order says “forthwith”…is that legalese for “right damn now”??

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    • coolmamie says:

      Forthwith insinuates “do it now,” but is actually relatively meaningless. When judges are serious, they give a date certain.

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  8. rockdoc76 says:

    Why would anyone think that this was not standard operating procedure by the American Gestapo?

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    • Rowdyone says:

      So the question becomes ” exactly how long has this SOP been in use and who authorized it”? I suspect it has been used this way from day one. Law enforcement is only concerned about proper procedure concerning national security issues when it comes time to prosecute and they have to go back and recreate their investigation to pass legal muster, often relying on their reputations to sway judges and juries. This practice of fudging supporting documents was, at the very least, given a wink and nod by supervisors both in field offices and at main Justice/FBI. But why didn’t the FISA courts at least do spot checks on supporting Woods files? If these judges, operating as the last protectors of constitutional rights of the accused in the absence of defending counsel, do not require proper documentation then the system needs to be disbanded. Let the FBI get a standard warrant.

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      • boogywstew says:

        Maybe the FISA judges saw that they were under scrutiny and backed off? I’m wondering if every governor, senator, congressman and federal judge were all warned about things from their past might appear as if by magic, if they didn’t toe the line? Those few without anything in their past might also have been similarly warned about their loved ones? Has a point finally been reached where those in power can blackmail everyone? Donald Trump must really be one squeaky clean person. He’d have to be!

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        • Zorro says:

          The TDSers foam at the mouth at OrangeMan Bad but, as you say, he’s squeaky clean. All the while there slick talking, civil and mannered Dem icons are dirty as Schitt.

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        • Rowdyone says:

          It sounds like you are describing tactics used by J. Edgar himself. Could it be that nothing has changed at the FBI since his departure decades ago?

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  9. What better way to distract people from this report and Durham’s upcoming report than to scare the bejeezus out of them using a pandemic.

    Liked by 6 people

    • boogywstew says:

      I don’t know about that? There must be many people here, like myself, who are bored silly by what is almost “The Corona Treehouse”. I am scouring sources so I can focus on other news. This article is a welcome change of pace. I believe even the general public is fed up with Covid-19 news. The timing might actually be advantageous for our side.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Carly says:

        Understood, but everything is joined–overwhelming to process all at once–but it is tied together, in a big knotted mess, just like Lawfare likes it.

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  10. rjones99 says:

    Just kill fisa and be done with it. The FBI cannot be trusted. If they hadn’t used their fvcking spying power to interfere in a presidential election we could’ve continued to look the other way….but they did it. And now because if their dishonesty, their lack of integrity, their utter lack of humility and chaste, they’ve endangered the country. Thanks FBI. Own it. Anyone involved in this sh1t that has a shred of integrity should resign out of shame for what they’ve done.

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  11. Mistakes
    Errors
    Non-compliance
    Misconduct
    Bias
    Abuses
    Mishandled
    Deficiencies
    Unsubstantiated
    Misapplication
    Non-candid
    Misrepresented
    Omission
    Inaccuracies
    Oversight
    Misjudgments
    Lapses
    False Statements

    They sure do have a lot of words to avoid saying “felonies”.

    And not one Attorney General who will prosecute them.

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  12. How very convenient for the FBI Stasi criminals that everyone is so preoccupied with the Chi Com Flu crisis such that very few people are paying attention.
    Why should we doubt that the absolute corruption that exists in the “Justice” Department, FBI and other alphabet agencies does not also exist in the CDC and elsewhere? Can we really trust these Swamp creatures to ever do the right thing?
    I was able to listen to quite a bit of the Levin show this evening and like Rush, he was on fire about all the misinformation that’s being spread by Fauci, the MSM and the rest of the Deep State. He had compelling reports for other highly respected doctors, scientists and experts regarding the
    efficacy of the quinine drug and other treatments.
    It boggles my mind that we are destroying our Republic based on information that comes from the Deep State Swamp.
    #END THE LOCKDOWN NOW

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  13. California Joe says:

    Three years late!

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  14. Todd says:

    The FISA Court is requiring the DOJ/FBI To Provide Names of Targets Within Corrupt Surveillance Applications…

    That’s going to be a whole lot of names. A lot more than 29. Wow.

    Hundreds, if not thousands of names of people that were illegally spied upon could be released.

    The kind of surveillance warrant (702?) the FBI had on Carter Page allowed the FBI to investigate anybody within Carter Page’s orbit.

    The FBI used the incredibly invasive warrant to spy on everyone in Carter Page’s life, including candidate Trump and President Trump.

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    • iwasthere says:

      Are you sure the order says that? To be sure, we tree-pers know, that a FISA warrant includes at least all persons within 2 hops of the target. But are those in the circle of the 2 hops the “target” of the FISA? Or just, for example, Carter Page. BTW, it would be awesome to know the names of all persons within the Carter Page 2 hop rule.

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  15. BigTalkers says:

    Looks like the Agents “ethics training” Dir Wray promised didn’t work (if it was actually done at all… unlike the Wood protocols).

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    • Guessed says:

      Every time there is a scandal or screw up in government, the response of the management is not to fire the individual responsible. Instead, they subject all the employees in the agency to mandatory training on the law and ethics pertaining to the scandal, with the unstated premise that the scandal did not happen because the misdemeanant was a miscreant. No, instead the misdeeds occurred because, you guessed it, lack of training!

      So a mandatory online training course is put together that everyone has to take or lose their computer login privileges. So everyone clicks through the half hour course online as fast as they can while doing their real work in the background. Nobody learns a damned thing, and it has no practical effect except to waste hundreds of thousands of man-hours on drivel.

      The perpetrator is not fined or fired or indicted. Someone will get an award for keeping track of the compliance with the requirement, and we employees will get dozens of nag emails to complete the training…even though we have already completed it. The emails all start out with “if you have already taken the mandatory training, please disregard this email”. And I always wanted to know why am I getting this email if you are keeping track of who has taken it!?!?!

      Former fed employee here. Others can confirm this is how business is done. One of several reasons I retired. Carry on.

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      • meow4me2 says:

        Yes, in the root cause world, many companies stop at the lack of training cause, provide new training and figure they’re done. But the training, as you described it, is ineffective. People don’t follow the rules because there are no consequences for ignoring them. They pay lip service to it, that’s it.

        Until there are real consequences for not doing the job correctly, it will not improve. The honor system doesn’t work. The review system doesn’t work – no one does it. They just sign off.

        This is the same issue as the NSA database searches. They put a control measure in place, but it is easily subverted and therefore meaningless.

        Until these actions are made crimes with MANDATORY prosecutions with MANDATORY MINIMUM sentences – or some other type of onerous consequences, these tools will be misused against the American people. Our freedom is illusory.

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      • Your Tour Guide says:

        Guessed: the same applies for medical staff.

        Wife has plenty of RN friends who have to do yearly
        “corporate compliance” training. Back when , it was caused
        by whoever that was heading the corporation cooking
        the books for medicare and medicaid funding. Can’t
        recall seeing any medical corporate types in the news
        going to jail.

        But year after year they do these dumb courses.
        Including outlining how they can’t do bribes with
        vendors. None of my wife’s RN friends has a clue
        on how they would manage to do that. Corporate
        buyers do all the purchasing. They are all too busy
        trying to stabilize people, save lives.

        The shady business is all front office. The ones that
        never get charged.

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  16. Bogeyfree says:

    Good time to repost Barr’s batting average to date……

    This AG Barr, is why so many Americans are pissed off.

    So let’s recap all of the “incidents” that have occurred over the past few years and you tell me if truth and justice is paramount anymore and if there isn’t a two tier system of justice within DC!

    1) Uranium One – No Crimes, No Indictments
    2) Hammer 47 Hard Drives – No Crimes, No Indictments
    3) Anwan Brothers – No Crimes, No Indictments
    4) HRC Unsecured Server & 33K Emails – No Crimes, No Indictments
    5) Wiener Laptop Email Contents – No Crimes, No Indictments (outside Wiener)
    6) DNC Server Hack – Alleged Crime, No Indictments
    7) Seth Rich murder – No arrests
    8) Fake Dossier and fraud on FISA Court 4 times – No Crimes, No Indictments
    9) Years of FISA Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments
    10) Years of FIB Contractor Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments
    11) Carter Page FISA Leak – No Crime for Leaking (just one count lying)
    12) Numerous other Classified Leaks – No Crimes, No Indictments
    13) Numerous referrals to DOJ – No Crimes, No Indictments
    14) Numerous Agents violating policy – No Crimes, No Indictments
    15) Ukraine WB fraud – No Crimes, No Indictments
    16) Impeachment Fraud and made up narrative by House Leader – No Crimes, No Indictments
    17) Ukraine Money Laundering – No Crimes, No Indictments
    18) Epstein – No Crimes, No indictments
    19. Withholding and then losing exculpatory evidence and records in the General Flynn case

    Seriously, look at this list and virtually NOTHING from our Government!
    I’m not sure it is even statistically possible but here it is.

    I think as more and more Americans see lists like these coupled with the lists of their people who got a pass and the people who did get indicted, they clearly see the bias and injustice.

    The American people see and now know, so what’s it going to be Mr. Barr, truth and equal justice or just more of the same?

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    • auntiefran413 says:

      AG Barr doesn’t have time right now. He’s busy busting the transgenders who want to play with the real girls.

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    • Alli says:

      Good job on the list
      It’s so disgusting and clearly its business as usual for all these rats. No consequences no worry.
      No conservative will ever trust these institutions again if justice isn’t served.

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    • angech says:

      There is a difference between broadcasting what you are doing [Mueller] and doing it right.
      Barr and Durham doing it right.
      Indictments coming up.
      Watertight.

      I hope.

      Remember he has got things moving against a mountain of opposition.

      Atkinson sacked today by Trump. Impossible without Barr supporting.

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    • Rhi says:

      Keep that list going Bogeyfree! 👍

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    • Zy says:

      Great list. I would add the Blowsy Two Door Ford hoax and Juicy Smollett hoax although it looks like there is something happening with the latter.

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  17. islandpalmtrees says:

    RENEW THE FISA PROCESS? THE CONSTITUTION SAYS NO

    COVID19 had nothing to do with the Wuhan that Research Lab and the Wuhan Research Lab had nothing to with Soro and Soro has nothing to do with the CIA and the CIA has nothing to do with the FISC. It’s all just an accident.


    REVEALED: Soros Invested Heavily in Chinese Biotech Research Company with Facility in Wuhan that Researches Respiratory Models and Infectious Disease
    April 3, 2020, by Jim Hoft


    Comey’s Crossfire Hurricane Team Inserted Blank Pieces of Paper Into FBI File Used to Document Support For FISA Warrants on Carter Page
    March 4, 2020, by Cristina Laila

    I love the CIA

    FOIA Docs Show Anti-Trump DOJ Official Appointed to Oversee FISA Reforms Sending Draft WaPo Op-Eds Attacking Nunes to DOJ’s National Security Division
    January 27, 2020, 1:47 pm by Cristina Laila

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  18. TradeBait says:

    Nunes is right and a true patriot. The rest of them can go pound sand. I know of nobody who trusts anything that comes out of the DOJ or FBI. Nobody. Most folks laugh and some get angry when they are mentioned. Zero batting average for approval.

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  19. Skidroe says:

    You just scratched the surface.

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  20. arsumbris says:

    Muh “decent rank-n-file” — the whole organization is organized crime, shut it down and let those “saintly rank-n-file” stand in the unemployment line with gas masks on like everyone else.

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  21. jus wundrin says:

    Thank you for the update, SD, its a nice break from the 24/7 chi com virus.

    People need to go to jail.

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  22. Todd says:

    Trump Fires Atkinson

    Trump fires intelligence community inspector general

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/trump-fires-intelligence-community-inspector-general-164287

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  23. JohnCasper says:

    Trump fires Michael Atkinson! (per Laurel Igraham)

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    • Sherri Young says:

      Notification letters within.

      Adam Schitt is already kicking up sand. LOL. Just you wait, Liddle Adam Schitt. You will build your own trap.

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  24. Ellis says:

    Is Atkinson out?

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  25. Can you believe Director Wray is still drawing a paycheck? Because he is, I’ve lost some respect for the President.

    I’ll give AG Barr a bit more time, but if he does not produce indictments IMMEDIATELY on some of these perps, the President will lose more.

    Hopefully someone will continue MAGA.

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  26. Dave Crain says:

    Atkinson’s just fired!

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  27. Child of Morning says:

    I put my money on a setup. FBI / DOJ cherry picked cases that have little to no downstream malfeasance. That’s the explanation for why the “29” are so bad on Woods procedure. That was not priority. The FISC is dirty up to its eyeballs. They want this over too.

    We’ll see what happens.

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  28. mtk says:

    While reading THIS in relation to the super-duper secret courts set up to address National Security concerns.

    The FISA court should be rightful concerned with the Cart Blanc issues involving TRUST of the evidence presented before the Court.

    In esence, the FISA Court should not just be going WTF. “The FISA Court should be going it can no longer turn a blind eye to being lied to in a significant and systemic manner.”

    This must be massively calling into question, “That, the FISA Court must now weigh(consider), that proceedings before the Court can no longer be bullt on a Trust relationship that appears to be solely predicated on the belief that the Executive is an honest component of Constitutional Governance and would not be before the FISA Court without reason.”

    If there is any hope left in this largesse of Trust afforded to the Executive’s presentations before the Court, the FISA Court must NOW be going, “These disturbing implications before the Court require the FISA Court to consider THEY have been systemically lied to on a regular basis.
    The point of contention is such that now the Court must now weigh, “That the Government lies to itself!”

    Therefore, in order for the any court to maintain the OATH of Constitutional Judicial Independence entrusted under Separation of Powers of the Constitution.”

    The FISA Court has squarely been confronted with an absolute Constitutional issue.
    Which leads to Constitutional arguments to deciding whether the FISA Court is a rubber stamp to the Executive, or the FISA Court’s independance still has the Constitutional Checks and Ballances merits.

    Bottom line, the role of the dice comes down to whether, “The FISA Court, and by extension any Court is an equal and unfringe Constuitional partner.

    That is the essence of what the FISA Court has to address.

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    • Sherri Young says:

      DOJ IG Michael Horowitz is two for two slamming down evidence that shows neither the DOJ nor the FISC can be trusted to follow their own processes. Judge Boasberg’s response to the earlier report was to appoint one of the problematic persons to investigate and make recommendations.

      We’ll see what happens. Michael Atkinson’s firing today will make the drama even more interesting.

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    • belle819 says:

      Justice John Roberts needs to be impeached – He appointed the FISA judges who did not do their jobs.

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  29. So, FISC (which is the court that turned a blind eye to 4th A violations in the first place) NOW puts on a show of demanding information from the people it ALLOWED to lie in the first place, and people ACTUALLY EXPECT that something will come out of this?

    How many times will people be fooled by the same old promise that Swamp Creatures will investigate and police themselves?

    GOOD GRIEF!

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    • Jim in TN says:

      The court can’t disallow anything. It is captive to the DOJ. The DOJ makes secret allegations that no one else can know about, let alone challenge. How can the Judge even know that they are lying to her? (Lips moving. But he can’t say that.)

      Now some of this should have been caught if the Judge even bothered to spot check the warrant application. But why bother? They will just clean up their lazy lies and lie better the next time.

      And all those signatures are supposed to be sworn testimony that they went over it with a fine toothed comb and double checked everything. In reality it is just a charade. A way to violate the constitution while making it look like you are protecting people’s rights.

      Eventually everyone catches on. Including the judges.

      Imagine this: A judge holds a prosecutor or an agent in contempt. So the accused gets his day in court. But the evidence is all secret. The accused goes scot-free. So they hold a secret court and convict the accused. He is to have his liberty denied him, but no one may know why. Is he allowed a writ of habeus corpus to challenge his captivity? Maybe his secret conviction by a secret trial in a secret court should be followed by doing time in a secret jail. Is his family even to know why he has been disappeared? Why even bother, why not just take him away in the middle of the night, never to be seen or heard of again?

      There is no way, short of making the secret lie public that the accused can have his constitutional rights guaranteed. But they need not worry. They can only be tried by their friends. It’s called prosecutor nullification. The abused judge has no recourse.

      So they all come to realize that they are going thru the motions so that they can deny somebody else their constitutional rights. Including pretending to take the abuses seriously if they should come to light.

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      • The pro forma proceedings of the FISC are kabuki intended to fool the public into accepting ex parte processes that violate Constitutional promises of due process. That entire system is a threat to the American concept of freedom and should be abolished.

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    • Richie says:

      Good vs. Evil

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  30. john another says:

    Hell, just telling us how many of the targets were associated with Republicans and how many were tied to Democrats would speak massive volumes.

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  31. itipmyhat says:

    Shannon Bream (Fox) just reported that the ICIG has been fired

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    • steph_gray says:

      It may not be all that we want – but it’s extremely good news! Atkinson was a beastly limpet with tentacles in many things.

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  32. Doug Amos says:

    Jordan, Meadows and Nunes supported FISA renewal. In other good news, the Seth Rich case is also unraveling and the FBI has got stuck in a box they cannot get out of; sincere tx to JW on that. We don’t have many on our side but the 1’s that we do are very good. More sleepless nights for the swamp.

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  33. Mongo Mere Pawn says:

    You backside is showing, Your Honor.

    Your predecessor, Judge Colyer, issues a 90 some odd page decision based upon Admiral Rogers’ detailed audit of subcontractor abuse of the NSA database (85% illegal surveillance searches!!), but redacts virtually all the information that would allow the public to hold anyone accountable and, guess what, the DOJ and FBI completely ignore her. Even though she expressly finds that those agencies withheld from her a Memorandum of Understanding agreed to in 2012 that apparently was the biggest culprit in the abuse that she surmised stretched across the entire four years, she did nothing.

    Then, you came along and entered your own decision recounting that, in the time frame from her decision to yours, literally nothing appeared to have gotten better.

    Then, IG Horowitz issues his Carter Page FISA abuse report and, not only do you accept, without reservations, the bogus representations of reform made by the same a**hats who have been telling you and your colleagues to go f**k yourself, you appoint an amicus attorney who was part of the problem.

    Now, with this new report, not only do we know that not one of you judicial idiots caught a single instance of DOJ/FBI malfeasance in either the original Carter Page FISA application or the three renewals, even though they were clearly the most high profile applications to be presented to you in possibly the entire history of your court — How about you just ask to see the evidence before you approve an application seeking surveillance of a presidential campaign … during the campaign? Ever hear of inherent authority? — but we now know that you guys didn’t catch any of the malfeasance in these 29 randomly reviewed FISA applications.

    The entire point of making the DOJ and the FBI file verified applications with a real live genuine genius federal district judge was to give the American public some assurance that God’s gifts to the federal judiciary would make sure those agencies would dot their i’s and cross their t’s before they could get approval to conduct Roto Rooter electronic surveillance on American citizens outside the protections of the Fourth Amendment.

    They don’t even have i’s and t’s on their f**cking government issued keyboards!!!

    Your batting .000 for 8 years. Pull your drawers back up and drop your gown. Then do something that will make us think you give a sh*t.

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  34. Alli says:

    Can anyone tell me what the swamp rats have on Justice Roberts?

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      RUMORS (to me) mentioned something about his adopted children, procedures or preferences – not sure. I do not have time in my life to investigate that.

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  35. BitterC says:

    Wonder how many of those compliance reviews were signed off on by NSD Chief Counsel Michael Atkinson?

    So many reasons to fire him, yet the media will concentrate on only one and spin it against PDJT

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  36. Paul Cohen says:

    Michael Atkinson, John Carlin, and everyone else who played a significant role in the DOJ’s National Security Division needs to be raked over the coals testifying under oath.

    That’s just for starters, of course….these fraudulent dishonest Deep State hacks need to be prosecuted and put away.

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  37. Margaret berger says:

    Alli, the rumor is that justice Roberts illegally adopted children from Ireland . He supposedly ran the adoptions thru Argentina even though the children were born in Ireland. Supposedly Ireland doesn’t allow foreign adoptions. If true it is child trafficking.

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  38. joebkonobi says:

    It would be interesting to know how any of the targets were/are americans and how many were accused of FARA violations. My guess is there will be a definite pattern of entrapment.

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  39. Eric says:

    I’ll preview what the excuse will be for this, if it ever comes time to account. The excuse will be – the “failure” rate is so bad because everyone “misunderstood” the law and Woods procedures. Self fulfilling prophecy/justification.

    And, time for my once per quarter reminder. The FBI is not a law enforcement agency. The FBI does not hire law enforcement officers. They hire linguists, accountants, scientists, and mostly lawyers. The FBI trains them in the FBI way at the FBI academy. The FBI legitimizes “ends justify the means” types of activity. Some FBI agents are good people. It’s just that none of them have been involved in any of these cases, as evidenced by the fact nobody has come forward to blow the whistle. They don’t think they did anything wrong. The problem at the FBI is not a few “rogue” administrators – it’s a culture of corruption. This is expected behavior for the FBI – they are above the law, while holding themselves out as the standard for law enforcement. They are neither a standard, nor law enforcement. They are a corrupt governmental bureaucracy, accountable to no one and in love with their own power.

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  40. Heika says:

    Barr seems to be putting on quite a bit of extra weight lately. Has he been partaking in the piggy trough? Not much else is happening other than his ‘waistline expansion’

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  41. Dutchman says:

    Whats worse for the FBI and DOJ?
    That there WERE prosecutions of the 29, thst may be ‘tainted’, and have to be thrown out, or,…..

    That there were NO PROSECUTIONS?
    In which case, exactly WHAT was the survellence FOR?

    Reporters like Sharyl Atkinson, reporting on DOJ/FBI misconduct?

    Political ‘enemies’, Politicians or ‘influencial citisens?

    A field officers ‘ex’ that he was stalking?

    A lawyer who works in mergers and aquisitions, looking for inside information?

    And, just to out salt to the wound, the Mueller report ALSO neglected to include exculpatory information, regarding the Trump Tower meeting.

    The translator working for the,Russian woman told FBI agents there was NO conversation about dirt on Hillary, no political talk, the only thing remotely related was that 2 russians had,donated to Hillary’s campaign, and Manafort dismissed it.

    The whole conversation was about the majinsky act, and the American lobbyist hired by the,woman did MOST if the talking.

    So, ALL of this was in the FBI 302’s of the agents who interviewed the translator, but NONE of it was in Muellers report.

    Its the same, from rank and file, all thexway up to “Honorable man” Mueller, the former head of the FBI.

    Disregard, and leave out of your Special Council report, or your FISA application, ANY exculpatory info.
    Its Standard Operating Procedure, from top to bottom, and NOT a “few bad apple, rogue employees”.

    Hence, even if he wanted to, Barr could NOT ‘fix’ the DOJ/FBI.
    Its like fixing up an old clunker, and I have had many.

    Sometimes, the only way to fix it, is
    “Take off the gas cap,….and put a new car under it!”

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  42. glissmeister says:

    Hot mess indeed. It’s a veritable bubbling caldera pulsing with evidence of bureaucratic unlawfulness, bad faith, administrative racketeering, and a conspiracy or two to violate the civil rights of American citizens and cover it up.

    Rumble in the swamp. The earth is shifting beneath them. Tectonically.

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  43. Sun Yat Sen says:

    Atkinson just got FIRED !!!!

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  44. reliablydeplorable says:

    The Woods files are supposed to be attached to the FISA applications, are they not? If they are missing, then why in God’s name is the FISC allowing ANY of these FISA warrant applications to go through? The FBI and DOJ deserve all of the scorn that can be heaped upon them for how they have flaunted the law time after time after time.

    And yet, where is the scorn for the FISC? They are as much to blame as the FBI and DOJ. If the FISC were doing their job, then the FBI and DOJ would be forced to comply with the requirement to back up their applications with the Woods files. But John Roberts’ FISC is not doing what they must do. So, when is John Roberts going to be called up to Capitol Hill to answer questions about why his courts are rubber stamping FISA applications? Or is it that Roberts’ FISC is as corrupt as the FBI and DOJ have proven themselves to be?

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    • johnny andrew says:

      Hey Deplorable
      You answered your own question.
      The phat azz bagpipe blower Barr (aka Robert Johnson) ain’t going to do nuthin about it.
      Move-on nuthin to see here – so just forgetaboutit.

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  45. Troublemaker10 says:

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  46. DiogeneseVindicated says:

    If there is non-compliance shortly up to September 2019 there should be something there to hang that SOB Wray with.

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  47. Don L says:

    Dirty cops and dirty judges?

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  48. Mike Robinson says:

    In the late 1970’s, when people were disturbed at what “Tricky Dick” had been doing, a “court” might have sounded like a good idea. But what it actually did was remove altogether any Presidential accountability. The courts were simply lied to, and they had no means to know it.

    Repeal FISA. Repeal PATRIOT. Replace them both with something that actually protects us, not puts us in harm’s way.

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  49. hokkoda says:

    It’s funny to look at this stuff through the CV19 lens, but I remember many months ago pointing out that the FBI/DOJ were heavily invested in defeating the “corrupt FISA” narrative because Trump is the tip of the iceberg. If FBI was falsifying the Carter Page FISA, then all prosecutions, everywhere involving FISA (and the people who falsified the Page FISA) could be thrown out. It’s a massive problem.

    This is getting closer to what I’ve been saying for awhile. It’s not just the downstream prosecutions and convictions that are called into question. The REAL question is “What upstream investigations required bogus FISAs to justify the investigations?”

    When we use phrases like “tear it out, root and branch”, this is what we mean. FISA is just the branches on the tree. The roots are things like the entire Russia investigation which started in 2016 and “ended” with Bob Mueller’s disastrous testimony in Congress last summer.

    FISA was being used for far more than just gathering evidence to prosecute someone. They were engaged in a Police State activity to target enemies of the Obama White House and the Official Government Party.

    It is not hyperbole to suggest that public hangings are needed.

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  50. prtomr says:

    FISCs need to be abolished, the FBI needs to be dismantled and replaced by the US Marshall Service.

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