FDA Speeding Clinical Trials of Chloroquine as Possible Therapeutic – FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn Transcript…

During the task force briefing President Trump announced authorizing to the FDA to relax regulationsto speed up clinical trials for several anti-viral remedies to treat coronavirus. Specifically citing a therapudic drug known as chloroquine President Trump noted trials are underway and could be made available for treatment “almost immediately.”

Now, a drug called chloroquine — and some people would add to it “hydroxy-.” Hydroxychloroquine. So chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine. Now, this is a common malaria drug. It is also a drug used for strong arthritis. If somebody has pretty serious arthritis, also uses this in a somewhat different form.

FDA commissioner Stephen Hahn told reporters scientists still have to conduct clinical trials to see if chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, and several other anti-viral medications are effective against coronavirus.  However, since chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are already FDA approved to treat malaria & arthritis, they could be used to treat other conditions, including coronavirus, in an “off label” basis.

DR. HAHN: So, before the President nominated me and I was confirmed as Commissioner for Food and Drugs, I was a cancer doctor. And I’ve sat across from countless number of patients and had to talk to them about their diagnosis and their treatment. And one thing that was really important is to provide hope. I have great hope for how we’re going to come out of this situation.

What’s also important is not to provide false hope, but to provide hope. And, as a doctor, that’s the way I come to this. I’m speaking now to the American people as Commissioner of Food and Drugs, but that part of me has not left. Just look at the way the American people have responded to our calls for mitigation, for social distancing. The American people have great resiliency, and I’m so incredibly proud of how the American people have responded.

As the President mentioned, he asked us to be aggressive, to break down barriers to innovation, and to accelerate the development of lifesaving treatments. And we’re doing that at the FDA.

The FDA is committed to continuing to provide regulatory flexibility and guidance, but let me make one thing clear: FDA’s responsibility to the American people is to ensure that products are safe and effective and that we are continuing to do that.

Our folks — and they’re tremendous professionals — are working day and night to do this. You just can’t even imagine how much they’re working to provide this support for the American people and I thank them.

Since early January, long before the first domestic case, FDA began working in collaboration with CDC. I also want to note that we stood up an incident command group and had been focused on the coronavirus since the very beginning of this public health emergency. This is, in addition, an all-of-government and all-of-America approach and I’ll describe what I mean by that, in terms of the development of therapeutics.

An important part of that work is expanding the potential therapeutic options associated with coronavirus, and we’ve learned from our colleagues across the globe about this. But I want to focus on one thing: I was a cancer researcher before all this, and one thing I know about this great country of ours is that we have unbelievable innovators. We have people who, every day, it’s their job to develop treatments for all sorts of diseases. We are incredibly blessed, as a country, to have this.

And as is true in any illness, these great American innovators — academia, private sector — they have engaged us about the best possible treatment options. We are looking at everything that’s coming across our desks as possible treatment options for coronavirus, and we’re extremely encouraged by the interest and the promise that we’ve seen from these great American innovators.

Now, again, we need to look at it. We need the data, we need the information to make the absolute best decisions for the American people. But I want to assure you, we have over 17,000 people at FDA who are doing this every day.

We need — we need to make sure that these — this sea of new treatments will get the right drug to the right patient at the right dosage at the right time. As an example, we may have the right drug, but it may not be in the appropriate dosage form right now, and that may do more harm than good. Those are the things that that’s our job to look at. And that’s why it’s really important we have these dedicated professionals looking at these aspects of therapeutic development.

At the same time, we’re also working through different mechanisms to actually get drugs into the hands of providers and patients.

The President mentioned this, but one of the mechanisms is called compassionate use. Let me just tell you about this. If there’s an experimental drug that’s potentially available, a doctor could ask for that drug to be used in a patient. We have criteria for that and very speedy approval for that.

The important thing about compassionate use — and that’s what the President meant, “This is even beyond Right to Try” — is that we get to collect the information about that. Because one of the things that I’ll promise the American people is we will collect the data and then make the absolute right decisions based upon those data about the safety and efficacy of the treatments.

We are working expeditiously, and we are working to make sure that these products are as safe and effective as they possibly can be. Let me tell you about a few things that we’re currently working on. And this is a plan that was developed with many of the people at this table, our infectious disease experts on the task force.

In the short term, we’re looking at drugs that are already approved for other indications. So they’re already approved, as the President said, for other diseases.

As an example, many Americans have read studies and heard media reports about this drug, chloroquine, which is an anti-malarial drug. It’s already approved, as the President said, for the treatment of malaria, as well as an arthritis condition.

That’s a drug that the President has directed us to take a closer look at, as to whether an expanded-use approach to that could be done to actually see if that benefits patients. And again, we want to do that in the setting of a clinical trial — a large, pragmatic clinical trial — to actually gather that information and answer the question that needs to be answered and — asked and answered.

Let me give you another example: There’s a cross-agency effort about something called convalescent plasma. This is a pretty exciting area. And again, this is something that we have given assistance to other countries with as this crisis has developed. So FDA has been working for some time on this.

If you’ve been exposed to coronavirus and you’re better and you don’t have the virus in your blood, we could collect the blood. Now, this is a possible treatment; this is not a proven treatment — just want to emphasize that. Collect the blood, concentrate that, and have the ability, once it’s pathogen-free — that is, virus-free — to be able to give that to other patients. And the immunoglobulins — the immune response — could potentially provide a benefit to patients. It’s another thing that we’re looking at.

Over the next couple weeks, we’ll have more information on that. We’re really pushing hard to try to accelerate that. That’s in the sort of more medium- and short-term. And that’ll be a bridge to other therapies that will take us three to six months to develop.

And this is a continuous process. There is no beginning and end to each of this. This is — you know, we’re pushing this through.

The other great thing about the great innovators of America is some of them tell us it’s taken us years — years — to develop therapies. They’re looking at pushing that to the months period of time. And we’re trying to provide them the reg- — the regulatory flexibility, but, at same time, the scientific oversight to make sure that gets done in the best way possible for the American people.

The President mentioned that there is a vaccine trial currently being performed. It’s a phase-one trial, so it’s the earliest study that gets done. We expect that to take 12 months to get to completion — to actually a time where we could approve a vaccine. But that’s — these are all things to bridge to the prevention part of this with a vaccine. It’s exciting work. And the President is right: This is record time for the development of a vaccine and impressive public-private partnership.

The FDA’s efforts to facilitate the development of these products are focused on ensuring timely access, while also meeting the agency’s world-respected gold standard, relying on strong data from clinical trials to determine if an experimental or an off-the-shelf drug that’s used for something else can safely and effectively treat patients.

We want to assure the American people that FDA is all hands on deck, as the President mentioned — these efforts — and continue to work with interested sponsors to help expedite the work. We remain steadfast in helping to foster the development of safe and effective therapies for COVID-19. Thank you. (transcript)

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177 Responses to FDA Speeding Clinical Trials of Chloroquine as Possible Therapeutic – FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn Transcript…

  1. pienoman says:

    Thye CDC has known since 2005 that this med was effective with SARS – COVID19 is SARS-2 – what are we waiting for?

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    • lumoc1 says:

      As you question is very cogent, I wonder where did you get your medical degree and how many of the patients you treated survived your treatment?

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      • Steve in Titusville says:

        “It ought to be no surprise that chloroquine is effective against both SARS and COVID-19. After all, they are both coronaviruses and COVID-19 has often been described in medical and research sources as SARS-2.”

        Source: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/chloroquine-known-as-effective-against-coronavirus-since-2005/

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      • sysconfig says:

        great Tweet ..By the Papers Co Author..Yeah..It works..Its already FDA approved..question is will shortages appear to gouge people bying it for their arthritis..I predict a big boom in arthritis sufferers..

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      • mike says:

        They are old drugs with well known characteristics, if not entirely benign. There are a number of papers on chloroquines since SARS, and now on nCOV. The FDA should be told to stay out of the way and help speed any supply problems.

        I’ve seen FDA interference on old drugs over the past dozen years, and have little respect for them. One 100+ yo old drug, worked great and was a cheap generic. FDA forces it off the market for testing and re-registration. Substitutes are inferior, the drug disappears for almost two years, price skyrockets over 25x, and the new brand version is inferior to old branded version (switched to a controlled release tablet vs sublingual), everyone complains. Now, everyone gets the old cheap generic again, from overseas if necessary, the generic versions are still more expensive, and the main brand was damaged.

        This happens repeatedly for small or no real improvements.

        One chemo drug available overseas worked great for us was cheap, mild even nice, great in combination with supplements and other drugs. Arcane FDA regs stopped its US registration as an old generic even 20 years ago because it had a safe natural component. Everyone like my wife in the US, is long dead e.g. 100% wipeout in 3 years, die broke (millions of $) and permanently messed up physically from side effects. After 3 years, my wife built a new house with our cost savings and plays the piano (no nerve damage vs f’d in 6-9 months on the 1st drugs).

        Several more similar stories. No, the FDA is corrupt. more danger to me and my family, personally, than benefit on old drugs beyond **simple** purity.

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      • The Dark Lord says:

        so for a week you and your ilk have been shouting from the roof tops WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE … now when a possible cure is offered you want to slow things down and take our time … make up your mind …

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    • Jeff says:

      It is not as easy as that, unfortunately. SARS is not necessarily the same as SARS-2 for COVID19. A change in the capsid of the first to the second could change a) the way FDA would identify the disease, and therefore require trials to demonstrate efficacy of even this drug known to be effective in malaria and arthritis, and b) change the way approved drugs act upon this new mutation. FDA regulates drug development heavily, so it is not so easy. Fortunately, under the Trump Administration, Right to Try was passed making it easier for patients to at least try this drug (little o administration would not pass this)…

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      • Eric French says:

        And why wasn’t this given to those who were dying? Seems like 6000 people could have been the compassionate clinical trial…

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      • Eric French says:

        And why wasn’t this given to those who were dying? Seems like 6000 people could have been the compassionate clinical trial…

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      • mike says:

        These objections are reasonably answerable with existing and recent data. Please tell the FDA stay out of other people way, We need Phase IV mechanisms that facilitate information, not stifle information or physical availability in any way.

        Beyond the trilions of dollars damage, people lose their lives from ignorance. Just the other day a big Forbes listed entrpreneur died of Covid19, we had met his wife in passing a number of times, then this obit shows up. No chloroquines or IVC available, mild symptoms, dead in three days…

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      • Petrel says:

        President Trump mentioned chloroquine in his press conference today. This effecive anti-malarial drug was developed in 1934 and the patent is long expired. No wonder Big Pharma has zero interest in it — unless it can be subtly altered and the “new drug” patented, which is then sold with a substantial mark-up.

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        • LivLovely101 says:

          Maybe they will combine it with the other drug, Zithromycin and viola – new patent.
          I took Chloroquine and Biaxin (antibiotic) for 18 months for Chronic Lyme Disease. No side effects and worked very well. I had to take probiotics and certain vitamins everyday because of the antibiotic, but that was it. I was able to return to work part time. That was about 20 years ago.

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          • Rudolph says:

            Azithromycin and Biaxin (clarithromycin) are both macrolides. Must be something about the combination between macrolides and chloroquine that make it effective.

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        • LivLovely101 says:

          Maybe they will combine it with the other drug, Zithromycin and viola – new patent.
          I took Chloroquine and Biaxin (antibiotic) for 18 months for Chronic Lyme Disease. No side effects and worked very well. I had to take probiotics and certain vitamins everyday because of the antibiotic, but that was it. I was able to return to work part time. That was about 20 years ago.

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    • Frankie says:

      Treepers, there is a caution with this medicine. It can cause eye damage. Check it out on the Net.

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      • GB Bari says:

        After prolonged use (5 years), not in the short term, provided no other conditions exist in the patient (see link below).

        Please read the info on this webpage and then click on the “Next” at the bottom to see who is at risk of retinal damage with this medication.

        https://www.aao.org/eye-health/drugs/what-is-plaquenil

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      • hvlee says:

        My wife has Sjogren’s Syndrome. She took hydrochloroquine for ten years with annual eye exams before the exams revealed the beginning of eye problems. She was taken off of it and several years of further eye tests reveal no damage.

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        • GB Bari says:

          She apparently had a knowledgeable doctor who followed the recommended procedure. Glad she stopped taking it in time.

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          • Tseg says:

            Yes, here we are talking about taking for 6 days and the sky is falling for some. I can’t understand the need for over-caution in this case, unless one works for a pharmaceutical company or the government? Which one?

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          • hvlee says:

            Took her two years to be diagnosed but after that it was handled well. She had, and is still having, annual eye tests by a specialist. Her eyes have completely returned to normal. She was taking a high dose and her eye doctor and rheumatologist have floated going back on hydroxychloroquine at a reduced dose. She says that as long as she’s doing ok, let’s leave it alone. She did say that if she came down with the Chinese Flu, she’d go for the hydroxy in a minute.

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      • Rudolph says:

        Those with mild to moderate symptoms like fever or body aches will most likely go on to recover and not require chloroquine. If you happen to be one of the unfortunate ones who develop severe respiratory complications, it then becomes a risk-benefit analysis. Not treat the virus and die, or try the treatment and worry about side effects I “may or may not” experience later?

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      • lostandfound says:

        I have been on hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for about 6 years for my rheumatoid arthritis. I am 75 and also have diabetes, high cholesterol and hyperparathyroid. All are well-controlled with medication and diet (not so much exercise), and I see my doctors twice a year. My ophthamologist does both a plaquenel and diabetic scan twice a year…so far, no problems. I am now interested to see if my long-term use of hydroxychloroquine may have given me some resistance to covid-19. At this time I am symptom free, feel great, and am active within my area of personal quarantine. It would be an interesting study later to see how many people on this medication long-term may have avoided becoming ill.

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      • texasooz57 says:

        Yes, Frankie, you are right. The possible dangerous side effect is that it can cause permanent, irreversible blindness.

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      • dutzie60 says:

        I’ve taken hydroxychloroquine for almost 20 years no eye problems. I have eye screening annually. There was a time there was scarcity of the drug. I’m thinking now it must have been during the SARS problem. I hope the medicine doesn’t get too scarce or increase in price – it’s cheap now.

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        • samwise163 says:

          As of today there was none available from our wholesaler. Should be available end of month. I think HHS and FDA will help generics to prioritize this. My prediction is this will be the interim chemoprophylaxis – 200 mg twice daily x 7-14 days – will decrease viral shedding and replication. Will act in same manner as prophylaxis as travel led for malaria prevention. Hypothesized to block the ACE-2 receptor binding site that is required for virus to enter cell and replicate.

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        • samwise163 says:

          As of today there was none available from our wholesaler. Should be available end of month. I think HHS and FDA will help generics to prioritize this. My prediction is this will be the interim chemoprophylaxis – 200 mg twice daily x 7-14 days – will decrease viral shedding and replication. Will act in same manner as prophylaxis as travel med for malaria prevention. Hypothesized to block the ACE-2 receptor binding site that is required for virus to enter cell and replicate.

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      • The Dark Lord says:

        for the last week your ilk has been screaming TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY … now a possible cure shows up and you worry about side effects that take months to ever occur … panic works in BOTH directions I guess …

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      • viator2 says:

        I took it for almost a year with no side effects.

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    • sysconfig says:

      Theyv’ve known this for a while…I’m shocked Bill Gates population mgm crews never noticed..Ask yourselves how was Africa and India, the most populated and lousy water systems on Earth able to fend of co19 leaving big gaping holes in the John Hopkins Blood red Maps used to frighten us? Is it Genes? Really.?.possible..but think tof the principle drugs used to fend off Malaria for decades and well entrenched in those areas..Could it be..Quinine Derivatives.?
      Here is what has happened imo..call it conspiracy if you want..President Trump just threw in a Yuge monkey wrench in the Pharms and vaccine makers..(no friends of Trump )all Globalist plans including CDC ..this couple a dollars remedy absolutely kneecaps all the hype and the planned profiteering in the works. This is a huge development going public..This may well prove Trump RIGHT AGAIN..watch how the disease suddenly goes down the totem pole of priorites.
      God Bless..Its a beautiful thing to behold

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      • noswamp says:

        “Quinine Derivatives”, bought me some tonic water today. Treepers, you know what I’m talking about. (Staying healthy).

        Pretty soon word will get out but until then…

        Liked by 5 people

        • Randy Hitt says:

          I scored some today too fever tree is the good stuff, plenty on the shelves at Albertsons… Nobody else was interested…

          I have another tip to give you double protection.

          Olive leaf extract. Kills virus cells without damaging your cells, and even prevents infection. Check it out…!

          With that in mind I recommend a gin and tonic twice a day with a little spritz of the olive leaf extract until this all blows over.

          Liked by 4 people

          • akearn says:

            Thanks, Randy and noswamp. Got some extra tonics (thankfully no hoarding as yet) and will try some olive leaf. Can’t think of a more pleasant way to take medicine. May not be near high enough tonic dosage, but I’ll take what I can get … may help prevent, who knows.

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        • southernmom19 says:

          My grandpa used to get some every time I took him to the grocery store. It rung a bell with me earlier today.

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        • BigTex52 says:

          I have read that you would need to consume 20 liters of tonic water per day to get the equivalent therapeutic dose of quinine. You may want to change your mailing address to the bathroom!

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    • Eric French says:

      And why wasn’t this given to those who were dying? Seems like 6000 people could have been the compassionate clinical trial…

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  2. MJ Alexander says:

    Hope… but not false hope. Gotta love it.

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  3. ezpz2 says:

    Very encouraging.

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  4. SteveC says:

    They need to get a blood test out that allows people to find out if they’ve already have had the virus. Otherwise, this vast majority of people who have already had the virus (with minor symptoms) but don’t know they have are standing down as well. Those people should now be immune and able to get back to work Keeping America Great. The more people that can function in this environment the better for us all.

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  5. I am curious to know if recent reports (of no NEW Covid 19 cases in China) are supported by non-governmental anecdotal reports? Have they TRULY managed to fully contain and stymie the virus?

    AND

    What of the thousands of known cases… have the Chinese related WHAT they’re doing to treat them, and the efficacy of that treatment? Have the Chinese TRIED Chloroquine?

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    • China has tried to let the world know what they are doing but the WHO , CDC etc… shut them down. It is a natural remedy and they can’t make boatloads of money off of it. Go to orthomolecular.org. You may have to do a search but the protocols are aviliable in English and Chinese. Mega dose IV vitamin C cocktailed with a few other vitamins. 100% healing.

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      • Fannie says:

        China’s remedy is to let people die and take one for the collective. Vitamins might be beneficial taken before exposure.

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        • mike says:

          Full blown IV vitamin C antiviral treatment is greatly misreported misunderstood, and/or unreported topic. A few, identifiable people cannot handle the largest doses, mostly G6PD deficient or those with severe existing kidney problems.

          Most people, including doctors, are ignorant and superstitious and have no data or experience about this subject on viral infections, first reported in 1948. Linus Pauling, advocating some oral vitamin C (3 – 20 grams per day), is largely an irrelevant distraction about antiviral IVC at genuinely high doses (e.g. 60 – 100 gram infusions, 3x per day).

          Pls see Tom Levy MD on high dose IVC, as a general, nonspecific antiviral treatment:

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    • Jus wundrin says:

      I take anything coming out of that evil country with a salt block. Their underhandedness was telling after they kicked the China friendly MSM out of their country.

      What are they hiding?

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      • Steve Herman says:

        Media prob wanted to feel the temp of the crematoriums.

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      • mike says:

        Yes, cheating and the CCP bs are national sports.
        We need to carefully separate our politics and information as if our lives depend on it…
        We also have South Korean reports, we must intelligently analyze and grasp the useful parts decisively in real time, or suffer greatly. Academic excess can kill you and steal the country blind.

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      • powderdayrules says:

        Maybe they want to hide how it all started in close proximity to their top bio-weapons lab??

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    • All Too Much says:

      The reported location of no new cases, in this Chicago Tribune article, is the city of Wuhan, not China generally. The narrative is false, but its out there.

      “In China, Thursday marked the first time since Jan. 20 that Wuhan reported no new locally transmitted cases, a rare glimmer of hope and perhaps a lesson in the strict measures needed to contain the virus.
      Wuhan, which has been under a strict lockdown since January, once was the place where thousands lay sick or dying in hurriedly constructed hospitals. But Chinese authorities said all 34 new cases recorded over the previous day had come from abroad.”

      https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-coronavirus-global-spread-italy-wuhan-updates-20200319-uxzpfpih5zb7vh5vcyumfjmese-story.html

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  6. Your Royal Highness says:

    Before everyone gets real excited they should read about the side effects and warnings. This drug is pretty serious. I personally think it is an over reaction to the China Virus that hasn’t claimed many lives. I think caution should be in order since the risks are pretty hefty. Just my 2 cents for what it’s worth.

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  7. Bolivar says:

    The war against the common cold is now in full swing. No expense spared. No job too important to save. No savings account to important to deplete. Whatever it takes in this war to end the common cold. Even if we must end America to save the 90 year old, that is a risk we will take. For we don’t have a choice. The government people are here and they just want to help.

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    • Mary Wilson says:

      Have you looked at Italy?

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      • Arrest Soros says:

        I just saw a new report that states only 3% of the deaths in Italy from the Wuhan Virus had no pre-existing conditions.
        Over 50% of the deaths had 3 or more serious pre-existing conditions.
        Almost all of the deaths are in the North of Italy where over 100,000 CHINESE foreign workers reside and work. Many came back to Italy after the Chinese new Year holidays.

        So no, don’t equate Italy to the US or anywhere else.

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        • California Joe says:

          Only 200 Coronavirus patients under 70 years of age died in Italy. The average age of people who died is 79.5. Young people are virtually untouched by the virus. Italians are heavy smokers and are the oldest population in Europe. Add in the 100,000 Chinese returning on direct flights from Wuhan over the Chinese New Year and you have the dumpster fire….they have now!

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        • Doug Amos says:

          Excellent report that makes more sense than the media las in the last 25 years. Gin and tonic is also very good for most virus related as well as arthritis and also mosquitos and even if it doesn’t produce great results, you will still have a nice evening.

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        • musicdoc2020 says:

          The pie chart I saw had a 0.8% complication rate with no pre existing conditions.

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        • mike says:

          How many are china born on the West coast, from Vancouver BC to San Diego?

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    • repsort says:

      If 85% of cases go unreported.. well, a strong immunity obviously deals with it just fine.
      If you’re at risk/high-risk YOU isolate and let the rest of us get on with our lives. We’ve already done irreversible damage to the economy… More will die from a jacked up economy that will ever die from this China Flu.

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    • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

      If the same number of people get infected with COVID-19 as were infected with H1N1 in 2009, we’ll see more than 1 million deaths. Facts and data are important, you should pay attention to them.

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      • California Joe says:

        You keep spreading panic, Super Elite! We did not have 1 million deaths from H1N1 in the United States. According to the CDC the number was 12,469 and you know what? Obama and the news media couldn’t have cared less! So, why did it just burn itself out instead of killing all 350 million Americans….because that’s what virus infections do.

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        • frogman says:

          Super Elite is correct.

          Joe California you belong on MSNBC, when it comes to math etc.

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          • Ned Zeppelin says:

            California Joe is correct, look at the CDC site yourself. Some trolls on this site.

            https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

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            • frogman says:

              He is using a false argument. H1N1 had a vaccine (most vulnerable, medical and care givers were vaccinated), had different transition rates. There was an established way to treat it. It was a flu that was know to seasonable. Will this virus be seasonable? Hopefully, but the jury is still out.

              Mostly do not only consider death rates. People who recovered from this virus may have some serious lung damage and other damage. Just about everyone fully recovers from a flu, not so with this virus. Look at the percentage of beds in this country filed by the supposed not at risk population. This virus is nasty. Covering yourself in toilet paper or silly internet arguments will not help.

              I do not know if the economy will tank in the long run, but mine has as I was told the office was closed this week.

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        • dman213 says:

          The 2009 H1N1 pandemic had a .02% mortality rate (~12,000 deaths) in the U.S. in part because “few young people had any existing immunity (as detected by antibody response) to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus, but nearly one-third of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virus, likely from exposure to an older H1N1 virus earlier in their lives.” (CDC). Globally, 80% of the deaths from the 2009 pandemic were in people younger than 65.

          SARS-Cov-2 has an estimated 1-2% mortality rate and is spreading as easily as influenza does. Also no one has immunity to it (possibly except for survivors of the 2003 SARS epidemic in China). We’re comparing apples to oranges here.

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    • So, you think Covid 19 is the same as the common cold?

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  8. MIKE says:

    I remember my Dad, who had to go through two bouts of Malaria in the Pacific theater, telling me not to keep drinking he and Mom’s tonic water mixer because too much quinine was bad for you.

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  9. cdnintx says:

    From what I read this drug worked well alongside Azithromycin for a good “cure” rate.

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  10. calbear84 says:

    Now if they could just come up with a treatment for Trump Derangement Syndrome!
    Alas, I think it’s incurable.

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    • StanH says:

      I would say something ugly so I won’t.

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    • GB Bari says:

      They have!!!

      Daily reading of all articles on theconservativetreehouse.com has been shown to reverse longterm Leftwing damage to several important parts of the human brain in some individuals, including the:
      – Prefrontal Cortex
      – Inferior Frontal Gyrus
      – Temporal Lobe
      – Parietal Lobe
      – Limbic System

      These are the primary regions of the human brain where thinking, reasoning, calculation, and emotional control are based.

      CTH should be high on the recommended Rx list of every psychologist and psychiatrist trying to help patients deal with the detrimental effects of public school and college education.

      Note- This is not medical advice and I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on tv.
      😉😄

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  11. Bo Long says:

    “According to their research (reported in Clinical Trials Arena),

    “Data from the drug’s [chloroquine] studies showed ‘certain curative effect’ with ‘fairly good efficacy’ … patients treated with chloroquine demonstrated a better drop in fever, improvement of lung CT images, and required a shorter time to recover compared to parallel groups. The percentage of patients with negative viral nucleic acid tests was also higher with the anti-malarial drug… Chloroquine has so far shown no obvious serious adverse reactions in more than 100 participants in the trials… Chloroquine was selected after several screening rounds of thousands of existing drugs. Chloroquine is undergoing further trials in more than ten hospitals in Beijing, Guangdong province and Hunnan province.”[6]”

    This from the abstract which can queried thusly- “

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  12. Ken says:

    Honestly if there is already anecdotal and actual evidence as to what we are hearing, the FDA needs to be bypasses. It is not an unknown new drug. Just make it available. If it is not efficacious we will know immediately.

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    • Dutchman says:

      There are always idiosynchratic reactions, adverse reactions, etc.

      Statins passed all clinical trials, and eere approved and marketed to millions of users. Only then was it apperent that about 1/10,000 who take statins will develop irreparable liver damage in first 3-6 months.

      Unpleasamt truth is, the LAST stage of drug testing is,…..marketing.
      They can test in small groups of healthy people, then small groups who are healthy EXCEPT for having the condition the medication is for, but then broad scale MARKETING, where 100’s of thousands of people, with a myriad of pre-existing other conditions, taking a host of OTHER medications, as well as supplements and OTC medications,…will often show problems its simply not possible to detirmine in any other practical way.

      The FDA approval process had gotten rediculously cumbersome, and PDJT is right to eliminate UNNECESARY or Duplicative burocratic b.s., but a certain reasonable amount of testing is prudent, particularly given this disease isn’t a World killer.

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      • Tseg says:

        If the US is locked down for more than a few months this certainly is a “world as we know it” killer.

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        • Dutchman says:

          It won’t be a few months. Probably just long enough to tank the China economy, for good.
          And, the ramp up will be as quick as the ramp down. A year from now the Dow will be at,40,000.
          IMHO,…

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    • Mikgen says:

      Have a look at Wattsupwiththat.com. Presents some data by Dr Roy Spencer who has correlated malaria incidence with Covid-19 incidence. Massive negative correlation. Of course if malaria is very prevalent lots of people will eat chlorquine or other anti-malarial drugs.

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    • Mikgen says:

      Have a look at Wattsupwiththat.com. Presents some data by Dr Roy Spencer who has correlated malaria incidence with Covid-19 incidence. Massive negative correlation. Of course if malaria is very prevalent lots of people will eat chlorquine or other anti-malarial drugs.

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      • General P. Malaise says:

        I don’t think that chloroquinine is used that much any more. the side effects can be nasty and people in malaria countries don’t take anti-malaria medicine on a continuous basis as it will do more damage than the malaria does.

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        • WES says:

          Gen:. Correct!

          They only take it when they get malaria.

          Instead they go indoors before night fall. They seldom go outside at night! Malaria misquitoes come out at night mostly. They make sure screens are good.

          During the day they also don’t go wandering through thick vegetation that might disturb malaria misquitoes. Stay in open areas.

          Worked in Africa, including the Congo. You cannot get any deeper into Africa than that!

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    • InAz says:

      Yep. But the FDA thinks it is a god.
      The doctor who treats my husband’s rare autoimmune disease has told us nightmare stories of dealing with the FDA.

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  13. Jus wundrin says:

    Pray for our President and his team.

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  14. Dutchman says:

    20 years ago, they HAD a treatment to “cure” people of HEP C, a potentially fatal virus that effects the liver.

    Frankly, the treatment SUCKED.
    Took a year, during which time your hair would fall out, and your immune system would crash.

    Had to take 4 large pills every day, and inject yourself in the gut once a week, after which you would experience “flu lile symptoms.

    Oh, and it only cured about 50% of patients.
    Today, ONE pill, once a day, for 6 weeks, with 90% cure rate.

    This is ANTI-VIRAL treatment, and there are several, like this for Hep C.

    There are around 70 medications, used in various combinations, to treat HIV.
    They don’t CURE the patient, but keep their viral load at undetectable levels.

    Some of these meds attack the virus by interfering with its ability to reproduce, others attack different aspects of the viruses functioning.

    Similar to Hep C, the first HIV treatments were difficult to administer, and had major side effects.

    Point is, we have come a LONG way, in treating viruses, and many of these approaches may well work on this virus, its just a matter of testing, to detirmine which works best.

    And this is aside from what the Dr. is talking about; extracting antibodies from those who have had the virus, and so are immune. Same thing we do now with tetanus; ever had a tetanus shot?

    THATS what it is; antibodies extracted from the plasma of people injected with a weakened form of tetanus, in order to cause their body to produce antibodies.

    So, a treatment is on the way, for sure.

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  15. mtg50 says:

    An article today at The American Thinker is very much worth the time to read. It indicates that COVID-19 is not strongly contagious. The data from the outbreak on the cruise ship suggest that a measure used to describe how infectious a disease is is well below 1, indicating the disease declines and dies out on its own. We need more data. Data is the only ammunition to change the public mind and lead to a rational approach to a virus which appears relatively mild now with both the mortality rate and the infectious rate relatively low.

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  16. Beay Geste says:

    The S. Koreans were using this publicly and successfully + zinc months ago. Why didn’t the FDA act then?
    Are there a bunch of ‘PDJT resieters’ there?

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    • Payday says:

      No. It’s just a hyper regulatory bureaucracy. Always has been.

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      • George Hicks says:

        I’m not in the medical field, but spent about 15 years as an equities trader mostly in the biotech field…I am quite familiar with the incredible amount of money and time it takes to develop a vaccine from inception to approval (and also the extremely low success rate for a viable product).
        I agree the FDA is a hyper regulatory bureaucracy, BUT the speed of bringing mRNA-1273 to Phase 1 human clinical trials is unprecedented IMO.
        Hopefully, this is a precursor to the fast development of a Covid19 vaccine.

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        • mike says:

          I’d rather rely on generics (C, D, Zn, extracts, chloroquines) the first 5-10-20 years, than try some hot new, half tested RNA vaccine with a big profit margin…

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  17. Somebody's Gramma says:

    I too was encouraged by the press conference this morning. I was treated with “immunotherapy” for a rare type of lymphoma about 3 years ago and I’m alive and kicking!! Even though it was labeled as “chemotherapy”, it’s function was less like the “napalm” used in the past. When the head of the FDA said he was a cancer doctor, I thought YAY!!! Cancer treatment has changed. They’ve mapped the human genome, they target specific genetic abnormalities now, they can give the immune system enough of a lift to start combating the cancer cells on its own. It’s a whole new world. Seeing the medical community come together and look at alternatives, along with Trump cutting the red tape, will be life changing for our country. I am very hopeful in that regard. The only thing left then, other than the lack of toilet paper, is how soon people will be able to go back to their jobs… the dominoes have started to fall for many people’s individual lives and I hear what the President is saying, and I’m thrilled he wants to bail out the American people this time (!!!!), but it’s unfortunately a snowball effect. I’m praying.

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  18. Charlie Currie says:

    Those who have real concerns about the side effects of chloroquine should never travel to a country where malaria is prevalent. If you do, you will be taking chloroquine before you leave and while you’re there, otherwise, you risk getting malaria – and the cure will be, you guessed it, chloroquine.

    All us Vietnam vets know all about that nasty pill…but, it worked.

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  19. nimrodman says:

    Bayer Donates 3 Million Chloroquine Tablets in Fight Against Coronavirus

    German pharmaceutical giant Bayer AG announced Thursday that it donated 3 million tablets of the malaria drug Resochin to the United States amid testimonies that it could potentially treat individuals with the deadly Chinese coronavirus.

    Resochin, which is made of chloroquine phosphate, is presently not approved for consumption in the U.S., though the company is working with federal public health agencies to secure authorization for its use nationwide.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/bayer-donates-3-million-chloroquine-tablets-in-fight-against-coronavirus/

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  20. JimCee says:

    People need to realize that a vaccine is needed to innoculate individuals so that they don’t get COVID-19. The drugs on the table now only address symptoms. COVID-19 is a virus like the flu. You can’t eradicate it with drugs. If COVID-19 were a bacterial infection it could be eradicated with antibiotics. Right now it’s a waiting game and putting into place good sanitary practices.

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  21. Bogeyfree says:

    Why is it we only get pieces of data?

    We get cases which include presumptive cases

    And we get deaths

    But what about…………

    1) How many of the cases are confirmed (not presumptive)?

    2) How many of the cases required hospitalization?

    3) And how many of the hospitalization cases required an ICU bed?

    4) And what is the avg age of the 150 – 173 deaths?

    5) And finally of the deaths how many or what percent had other chronic diseases such as severe respiratory issues?

    It sure would be beneficial to those of us who still can think and reason for themselves to be provided the full set of stats and not just top line “spinnable” total case and death count.

    Im actually shocked PT does not require Pence and others in these daily briefings to share ALL the stats listed above.

    IMO it would speak volumes by adding a huge amount of Transparency and more of the complete story.

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    • I know you’ve been requesting this type of very specific information several times. There are problems in doing that I don’t think you are taking into account:

      1. Legal obligations. American patients have to sign off in writing (or their surviving next-of-kin) before any identifying information can be released. You can’t find out things like other conditions they had etc. without this permission. Some patients have been shunned or threatened by fearful neighbors, especially Asians. They won’t sign. I pointed out before that some surviving families decline post-mortem exams. Without that permission, Pathologists and Medical Examiners can’t weigh in, so there is no certainty of the cause of death.

      2. Different health care agencies collate the data using different criteria (presumptive vs confirmed cases for example). Since all the types of tests are new, there are both false positives AND false negatives. The specific numbers can’t be expected to be fully accurate yet.

      3. In discussion forums like this, some people distrust specific sources for the data. Some dislike WHO, some dislike NIH or CDC. Non-Treepers don’t believe the President’s team. You’ve seen it happen, I’m sure. One commenter posts a link, the next one responds with some version of “You can’t believe THEM.”

      Since there are completely normal reasons the exact numbers can’t be codified yet, it might be helpful to look at comparative trend patterns instead. For example, the divergence between active cases and resolved cases over time indicates how clearly the long recovery times causes a negative impact on the care systems. That’s why in addition to the government/medical sites I’ve been using a “number-cruncher” site that uses AI algorithms to collate numbers from ALL the available official sources. The graphs illustrate things you can’t easily deduce just from numerical list comparisons. You can also do rapid comparisons of the situation in different countries:

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

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      • George Hicks says:

        Mikey,
        I bookmarked that site , it looks like great info…but at this time it looks like the numbers are greatly skewed for several reasons:
        The number of cases at 13,926 is rising rapidly – but that should be expected as vastly more people are being tested.
        The number of mild cases versus serious cases is a very high ratio: 13,862:64

        Then you look at the closed cases: 121 recovered vs 218 deaths and at first glance that would appear extremely problematic – but those numbers don’t project the outcome of the number of new cases discovered, especially when some 99.5% of the total cases are considered mild.
        What we need to know is the average time from discovery to closure…the closed case death to recovery ratio needs to be computed needs across that time range.

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  22. thedoc00 says:

    There have several posts with links on this drug. This one had some lengthy scientific and pharmacological information that was easy to follow. As a recovered Type II Diabetic and person who survived HEP A, there are some serious risks here to consider. I am sure others with existing conditions will also see some issues with the listed side effects that go beyond the normal CYA discussions.

    Yet, in dire or emergency situations the side effects concerns often go by the way side. Then there is also the element of time involved, when considering the amount of drug that builds up in the body. So this may not be the 100% cure as a vaccine but does look like a viable “75%” solution, covering allot of “younger” and “screened older” folks.

    https://www.drugs.com/pro/chloroquine.html

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  23. Everett Miller says:

    emanating from the unconstitutional federal government overreach and manufactured hysteria to justify shutting down the country and destroying lives, families, businesses, and the pursuit of happiness comes a few good side-effects; perhaps we can disband the FDA or completely remake it to benefit We The People instead of the multinational corporations; perhaps the NIH can get rid of the little scaremonger Dr. Fauci when his lies and fake news are exposed; perhaps some younger generation gullibles will start to see the insidiuous nature of the Leviathan as dangerous rather than savior, etc.
    Meanwhile, get a grip. You can hardly contract this virus if you try. All the deaths/percentages are related to verified cases and usually hospitalized cases–not to the entire public. In South Korea, for example, look at these numbers from yesterday:
    total population 51,470,000
    total CV cases 8,565
    deaths 91 = .00018 of 1 percent of the overall population.
    FYI here’s some even more interesting numbers:
    A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000. Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

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  24. Chip Bennett says:

    This is one of our clients. This is why I do what I do. We help bring treatments such as this one to market, quickly.

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  25. kelley says:

    For what it is worth.. My Husband is a doctor and has been reviewing the studies and talking about Chloroquine and Remdesivir since January.. He was ecstatic today.

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    • IAWulfI says:

      I was ecstatic also after reading the articles and links over at Wattsupwiththat.com. There is also links to MEDCRAM on YouTube of how chloroquine may work. Basically it is a zinc
      ionophore which means it aaids in getting zinc into a cell. The zinc is a potent inhibitor of virus replication. The post over at Watts started Tuesday I believe and is up to 672 comments plus all the links.

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    • Sentient says:

      The first Coronavirus patient in Washington State was treated with Remdesivir on a “compassionate basis”. Why can’t every seriously afflicted patient be given Chloroquine on a compassionate basis? In both cases, it’s a repositioned drug.

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  26. Danimal28 says:

    Trump doing what he does best: Letting people expose their positions publicly for accountability later. You’ll notice we have not seen CofCommerce Chair Tom Donohue(taxpayer money thief) in public for a long time.

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  27. Baby El says:

    So… for those weekend doctors that wonder what’s taking so long.
    1 – they need to study effective dosages
    2 – they need to understand effectivity vs stage of illness
    3 – they need to understand adverse effects in populations not previously studied and at anticipated dosages.

    Now, the president can give them the authority to do this without miles of red tape and get it done, but its not going to be tomorrow.

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    • jnr2d2 says:

      Sorry, if you are in ICU it needs to be tomorrow. You have nothing to lose as, depending on age, you have a 20-50% chance of dying!!!!!!

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      • nimrodman says:

        Doctors are doing just that

        Fox News had on their doctor-ese talking head doctor and he said that serious cases have been getting chloroquine as treatment

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        • nimrodman says:

          … he also said “but supplies are getting low”

          This should help:

          Bayer Donates 3 Million Chloroquine Tablets in Fight Against Coronavirus
          https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/bayer-donates-3-million-chloroquine-tablets-in-fight-against-coronavirus/

          German pharmaceutical giant Bayer AG announced Thursday that it donated 3 million tablets of the malaria drug Resochin to the United States amid testimonies that it could potentially treat individuals with the deadly Chinese coronavirus.

          Resochin, which is made of chloroquine phosphate, is presently not approved for consumption in the U.S., though the company is working with federal public health agencies to secure authorization for its use nationwide.

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          • islandpalmtrees says:

            Now the blowing smoke, chloroquine was used in the millions of tablets in Vietnam by a great many soldiers over the entire duration of the war with no ill effects.

            It’s cheap to make, a generic, and apparently effective.

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  28. Randy Hitt says:

    Why no mention of olive leaf extract?
    Ole prevents corona virus and most viruses, along with being a potent antimicrobial, antifungal, it is the best natural defense against this virus.

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    • Richie Arcangelo says:

      If you combine quercetin and artemisinin (anti-malaria) you can completely prevent it from taking hold in your body…

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  29. Randy Hitt says:

    Chloroquine is Synthetic quinine. Quinine is in Tonic water.
    Olive leaf extract prevents corona virus.

    So I recommend a couple gin and tonics with a dropper full of olive leaf extract every day til we get the all clear.

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  30. dwpender says:

    Wasn’t it great yesterday to hear that Barr has “ordered” US Attorneys and their prosecutors to “prioritize” investigating and prosecuting people promoting “fake cures” for the Chinese virus?

    One might think he ought to have “prioritized” other things, LONG ago.

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    • mike says:

      Reminds me of a classmate selling Southwestern books in the hills of Kentucky during summers. Worked his way through private college and medical school. Big personality. His superstar sales handcarry looked like a US postal box livery, red and blue with white star, with a handle. Some moonshiner took a shot at him, stepping near the property line. ‘Shiner apologized, thought he was a fed…

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  31. CM-TX says:

    Always good to disrupt evil plans…

    I for one, will be avoiding any such vaccine like it was The Plague itself.

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  32. honeybee12345 says:

    So then … they are building up to MANDATORY VACCINATION. This is what they have wanted for a very long time.

    BREAKING: Percent of Deaths from the Coronavirus Compared to Deaths From the Flu in the US Reach 0.7% (155/22,000) – The World Has Gone Mad!

    NOTE: You bet. Put this into perspective. We have seen this before. People are easily spooked. Panic creates unmanageable problems. Take a deep breath, relax, think.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/breaking-percent-of-deaths-from-the-coronavirus-compared-to-deaths-from-the-flu-in-the-us-reach-0-7-155-22000-the-world-has-gone-mad/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=daily

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  33. Reloader says:

    I did a search yesterday for Chloroquine, and the only sources I found were sellers on ebay. The best price I saw was a bottle of 20 tablets offered for $420.

    I would assume there are other sources for sufferers of arthritis …

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Chloroquine generic drug now. They don’t make any money off of it. But, I feel sure Bayer pharmaceutical could sell the US Government some.

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  34. omyword says:

    Hope we are talking about Hydrocholiquine which is far less toxic. HCQ is an ionpore. It over comes the viruses protections. It opens the cell up to allow in zinc, which is an ion…the zinc penetrates the cell and interferes with its RNA transcription, meaning it can not replicate. Thus in about 6-10 days, its dead.

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  35. islandpalmtrees says:

    In the south African countries, where chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are being used against Malaria, very few if any cases COVID19 are being reported therefore the effectiveness of the malaria drug against COVID19 has shown it’s self anecdotally to be effectively tested.

    During the Vietnam war each veteran received several doses of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine without ill effect for Malaria. So we know as a result that the use of the drug will not make the problem of any possible victim COVID19 worse.

    HUGE! Results from Breaking Chloroquine Study Show 100% Cure Rate for Patients Infected with the Coronavirus
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/huge-results-from-breaking-chloroquine-study-show-100-cure-rate-for-patients-infected-with-the-coronavirus/

    Ingram reported that testing is underway by several countries on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. And that New York is already using this medication off label by its physicians.

    Bayer pharmaceutical company gave the United States government 2 million pills of chloroquine. I’m sure Bear, would be willing to sell the United States government a great many more.

    I see no reason, why the government should not be issuing chloroquine pills and sending people back to work. However, they seem determined to delay and raise the national debt by more than $1 trillion.

    Another company, on a recent news broadcast showed off their efforts at bypassing the vaccine approach, by directly injecting antibodies, and all new approach for viruses like COVID19.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Bear should be Bayer “I’m sure Bear, would be willing to sell the United States government a great many more.”

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  36. imatexan says:

    I have autoimmune disorders and have taken hydroxychloroquine many years. My experience with this medication has been safe and effective for my situation.

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  37. I posted the following comment on American Thinker this morning. I have posted similarly here before:

    The real key is not an outside, man-made vaccine, but individuals knowing how to stop the virus at the entry point to their bodies, and if it slips past the entry point into the body — generally through the digestive tract — how to support the body’s natural defenses to shut down the virus inside.

    I would not write this if I didn’t know from long experience. Up until about 10 years ago, I would get a bug pretty regularly, once every year to 18 months, and going to the doctor to get a ten-day regimen of penicillin or amoxicillin, or an antibodies shot. Eventually I realized this was not the way to live, and I looked for natural remedies to halt the disease cycle in my body.

    To make a long story short, I found that, at the first slightest sign at the back of my mouth, the entrance to my throat, of incipient unwellness, just licking a small bit of chili powder (!) shaken onto my palm was enough to completely stop any infection. I earlier tried chewing a small piece of garlic, but though it was helpful, once I found the absolute efficacy of the chili powder, I stopped using that, though I sometimes add a dash of garlic powder to the chili powder, just for the added flavor. I also keep my nasal passages open (very important), but most important is keeping the entrance to the throat clean and treated with that smidgen of chili powder when needed (sometimes I use a quarter- to half-teaspoon of hot sauce instead of chili powder, just for variety).

    I use echinacea and goldenseal to support my internal defenses, especially if the bug gets past my throat defenses,. I use aspirin if I feel the slightest tendency to fever, but echinacea is the main thing (I use more than is recommended on the bottle, because I know to use more when I feel the illness is persisting, resisting). I haven’t been sick, certainly not needing medical attention for the last 10 years or so (remember that line in “Poltergeist”, where the psychic says, “This house is clean!”; that’s how I feel, after all those earlier years of repeated annoying illnesses). I haven’t gotten sick or needed any medical attention since, the last 10 years or more (I’m 72 now). Early this year, a particularly quick bug got past my throat, and I had to fight it with echinacea-goldenseal for about a week, but I never got outwardly sick — no fever, no coughing fits, etc. — I just kept dosing myself and not burdening my stomach with too much or too questionable food, until the bug gave up and everything got back to normal. I recognize illness, and its defeat, largely through its effect upon my digestion.

    All that this country is going through is completely foreign to me, in my personal invulnerability. This “crisis” is just another desperate attempt, for the Insane Left and anti-Trump globalists among the Republicans, to harm President Trump — and also to rehabilitate the Democrats before the election, after all the blatant insanity they have foisted upon the country since Trump’s election, and the blatant insanity of their presidential candidates now; they have kept their base in the thrall of a cult belief in an evil Trump, and that is a criminal misinformation of the American electorate, for which the whole party — now the Insane Left — needs to be utterly destroyed, removed from American discourse.

    And by the way, I voted Democrat for President for 28 years, through 8 straight presidential elections, before Obama, whom I recognized as a thoroughly false man, rooted in the Black Muslim, anti-American mindset. The last 11 years have been exceptionally painful to watch a misinformed and incompetent electorate continue to vote for a party that is no longer a legitimate political party, but only a criminal organized mob and an insane cult. This should be apparent to everyone by now.

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  38. according to Bloomberg(the news agency) a small dose of this will kill you. but it is Bloomberg, the next time they say something good about trump will be the first time.

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