Tom Fitton on FISA: “The Key to Reform is Jail”…

Completely agree with Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton here. During a discussion of congress trying to pass a clean FISA reauthorization or a reform version, Tom Fitton says the only way to really reform the process is to arrest, prosecute & jail those who abused it.

Fitton’s point is similar to the CTH argument surrounding SSCI leaker James Wolfe.  If the DOJ had prosecuted Wolfe for the criminal leaks of classified intelligence, the landscape of an adversarial intelligence apparatus over the past two years would be completely different.   The same general perspective applies to the FISA abuse issue.

Barr: “President Trump’s tweets make it impossible for me to do my job”…

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279 Responses to Tom Fitton on FISA: “The Key to Reform is Jail”…

  1. vikingmom says:

    The answer to SO many issues in DC is jail, IMHO!

    Liked by 30 people

    • Bill Durham says:

      Hannity has been bringing on the tic toc club. They seem to backing off jail time and indictments. “Shaming and exposing” is the new narrative not jail. BTW Sara Carter claims no evidence of a grand jury. Comey McCabe Brennan and clapper and Carter Page have never been interviewed. 1 year and they are no where close to going for indictments. Mueller would have had clinesmith indicted charged plea deal and cooperation by now….

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      • Frankly, I don’t think any of those blathering heads has any moar clue to what our VSG President might be leading up to than anyone else. I suspect only he and a handful of loyalists know what is on his agenda for “tomorrow”… and Term Two!

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      • nyckers says:

        All my friends with service as AUSAs have been saying since Day One there would NEVER be a prosecution of a SINGLE DOJ of FBI attorney… and pretty much all of these people are attorneys. They simply do not prosecute each other, unless they steal segregated trust money like Avenati did. THAT threatens all of them, People have to believe they can TRUST lawyers so they can go on ripping off everyone.

        I have never had an attorney who really gave s crap about doing their job. All that mattered to them was not “losing” regardless of how much it cost their client. I have watched friends pay $5 million in legal fees in litigation they could have settled for $2 million or less over and over. And in the end it comes back to the same settlement anyway. It’s unethical and gross, but it’s what they do.

        The DOJ is a corrupt club. They protect their own. My friends have been dead wrong about the facts of every case, but right about the outcomes. Watch McCabe get a big settlement from the DOJ – US in other words – because he probably had files on half of DC, We the People would want those files published, but the DC Club needs it all buried.,

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      • albertus magnus says:

        You are right. Truth is, too many n our side dont or cannot believe it. NO ONE on OUR side is going after jail time for the perpetrators. That is the reality.

        Tick-tocking all day long isnt moving that hands on the clock at all. Sorry, folks.

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        • chzheadproud67 says:

          IMO, there will NEVER be ANY prosecutions in ANY of these leak/FISA abuse cases –The ones who would be prosecuted are going to argue that “it” was done to protect OUR national security–they had “credible” intelligence that the “russians” were trying to “infiltrate” a campaign….keep in mind that ANY sane person (not suffering from TDS) would have gone to the campaign and alerted them—but that will never be mentioned. Barr is nothing more than a cleaner–wish I was wrong but that’s the writing on the wall….

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          • James Carpenter says:

            With acknowledgements to Breaker Morant:
            “We were out fighting the Deep State, not sitting comfortably behind computer screens; we got them and shot them under Rule 303,”
            … referring to the .303 calibre Lee-Enfield rifle.

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            • James Carpenter says:

              And it should be noted how Morant was rewarded for his service. Blunt, bloody, to-the-point and “uncivilized” as it was.

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    • GGHD says:

      In the Washington DC, the ‘Rules of the Swamp’ are: = Jail is for True Republicans; NOT Democrats, members of the UniParty or quisling Republicans.

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      • jumpinjarhead says:

        I think more and more people including the “Q” crowd are coming to see the Deep State more accurately. It’s breadth and depth pretty much cover every square inch inside the DC beltway, and all the government agencies and contractors around it.

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    • Indeed it is VM, and for SO many people as well… in SO many different areas of “government”.

      It’s a top to bottom situation!

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    • bentley1blog says:

      vikingmom…your opinion is not at all humble. Millions of Americans totally agree.

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    • MJ Alexander says:

      ^^^

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  2. allhail2 says:

    Dear Barr:
    Not prosecuting criminals looks like you’re not doing your job.

    You want the tweets to stop, light the crooks up.

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    • Antonius says:

      Right! Hey, it’s not that complicated.

      Liked by 3 people

    • JohnCasper says:

      It actually makes it look like he is one of them. In fact, it does make him one of them.

      Liked by 8 people

    • Randolph Scott says:

      Light these criminal bastard lawyers up with an electric chair. These mf’ing bastards are traitors.

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      Hey debela guzica (fat a..) Barr, you knew that POTUS tweeted before you decided to cover this govna up, so pray tell why did you take the job? Who is the idjot here. Never trusted this guy from day one, when he said “spying” did occur, he was telling those that did it, I know and will clean it up. JMHO but it is important to watch the person closely when he talks he body language, his eyes, his tone,the arrogance of Barr. Calm cool collected, words mean nothing.

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  3. Faye says:

    Barr: “President Trump’s tweets make it impossible for me to do my job”…
    The tweets aren’t going to stop, so put him out of his misery and sack him.

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    • Patrick Healy says:

      What is Rudi up to?
      He has been very quite recently.
      Hopefully he is being groomed to replace Barr.

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    • theoldgoat says:

      It does leave you to wonder what Barr thinks his job is as opposed to what his job is supposed to be.
      Impossible to do his job because the President looks at the injustice being done by the department which Barr heads up… it certainly sounds more like he has a different agenda and goal from that of the President.
      At what point is the question asked directly to Barr what actions have you taken against the numerous criminals who abused FISA and spied on the opposition campaign, and the multiple year investigation that was based on lies which those running the “investigation” knew about? Why are crimes that were outlined in the white washed IG report being passed over for indictment? What indictments whatsoever are being handed out?
      If he is not indicting people what exactly is it that he thinks his job is? To cover for those who committed sedition?

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      • dbobway says:

        AG William Barr knows exactly what his job is.
        Barr is the ‘cleaner’, Harvey Keitel, for the mob, type
        The AG is here to make this mess go away, with as little collateral damage as possible.
        His job is to take a few down hard, mostly small fish, maybe 2 or 3 big fish.
        A major part of this, I don’t thing Barr is going to impede in the Presidents ability to be re-elected. He might do a take down at a good time. Justice will not be served remotely.
        Bar is buying time, for the swamp.
        The President really has all the goods on these traitors, He is using it for leverage,
        For the sake of ‘We the People’.
        So, we have a job to do. The Americans qualified to vote and love their country,
        Can overwhelm the election. Yes even with all the cheating, the Dem’s, can muster.
        President Trump is setting the table, we are truly his power source, to change back to our Republic, for which it stands.
        If we want justice, We have to elect a Congress that has the teeth to do the job.
        That will take till 2022, when the ‘Turtle’ retires.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      Actually it’s looking like Barr is making it impossible for Trump to do *his* job. I expect Trump to do his job–no matter the cost. If there is no way within the system for Trump to do his job, I want Trump to blow up the system. I don’t care that much about trade deals if the corrupt US gov’t survives Trump. This is my personal opinion and what I will be basing my vote upon.

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      • petefrt says:

        “…if the corrupt US gov’t survives Trump”
        I don’t see anyone on the horizon who could fill Trump’s shoes. If the corrupt govt survives Trump, it will just get bigger and more corrupt. Trump’s probably our last chance. Might as well replace the stars on Old Glory with bananas.

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    • Bendix says:

      How unprofessional; to publicly whine.
      When you are in law enforcement, personal attacks go with the territory.
      Think what street cops get every day.

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  4. wendy forward says:

    IMHO he’s (Barr) gone after POTUS re-election.

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  5. albertus magnus says:

    Of course, Sundance and Tom are correct.

    It is just that NOBODY is going to do anything about it.

    The good guys are focused on obtainable things. Bad guys are focused on their evil goals.

    That is the reality of 2020 and has been such for decades.

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  6. sunnyflower5 says:

    Like President Trump says— “impossible is just a starting point.”

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  7. CM-TX says:

    No consequences means there is no deterrence. This lack of accountability only emboldens the DC CRIMINALS.

    The past 3 years has proven this repeatedly.

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    • TPW says:

      All of PT policies will go away and will all be for nothing if no prosecutions. I know he knows this I just cant see him letting that happen. How he handles this remains to be seen but agree Barr is part of the problem.

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      • FrankieZee says:

        Trump has to know that if he doesn’t destroy them, they will attack and ruin him and his entire family with vengeance after he leaves office. The question remains, when will the hammer drop.

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  8. JohnCasper says:

    Dear AG William Barr,

    Decency, security and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same rules of conduct that are commands to the citizen. In a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperilled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our Government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.

    – Justice Brandeis, Olimstead v. United States 277 U.S. 438 (1928)

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    • starfcker says:

      JohnCasper, he just doesn’t care. He’s a man on a mission. He has no internal moral code. He’s just a lawyer. Another sociopath lawyer. His lifetime of legal brainwashing has him convinced that it’s allright for him to do this kind of thing.

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      • Redzone says:

        “If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.”

        Welcome to the U.S. that empowered the first Muslim President / Community Organizer / Racial / Divider Barack Hussein, which launched the contempt for law. Occupy Wall Street, Antifa, Democrats, and Uni-Party operate with impunity.

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        Why is his wife in Bible study with Mueller’s wife when they both know their husbands are evil corrupt banditos? What asking God for forgiveness. I can’t speak for God, but if I were him I would forgive, but if one is constantly doing wrong and knowing it, forget about it. Good thing I am not God.

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    • treestar1313 says:

      If Barr thinks he’s “saving” the institutions, he couldn’t more wrong or more stupid. By not prosecuting, he is just reinforcing the fact that they are corrupt. Like SD said, “We Know” and the only way to save them for the American people is to prosecute and clean house. Barr’s done neither. A fool.

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      • billybob says:

        Yup, reminds me Bush and his -I’ve Abandoned Free Market Principles To Save The Free Market System’.
        Regular folk call it kicking the can down the road for somebody else to clean up . All I know is it doesn’t end well , plan accordingly , forewarned is forearmed .

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    • Raptors2020 says:

      John Casper:
      It’s the same eternal struggle between a government of laws, as Brandeis mentions, or a government of men.

      The modern Left wants a government of men: their hostility to our Constitution flows not from its obsolescence, but from the restraints it places on their grand designs.

      Social Justice means the people in power decide who the law will protect, and who it won’t. When Democrats like Mazie Hirono call for an end to the principle of innocent until proven guilty, they simply mean the people in power will determine your guilt, not the letter of the law.

      The modern Left wants an end to Republican government, and a return to Feudalism. The de facto nobles, like Hillary Clinton, and their vassals, will assess their own guilt or innocence. Hillary decided her 30K emails, despite being under subpoena, were her business alone (due to her noble status?). Her vassal James Comey agreed. This will soon be the daily standard of American justice, if left to nullities like Bill Barr.

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        I can’t tolerate Comey, but Barr I detest, because we were all hoping and praying he would be for justice and that means all, unlike Comey. A snake is a snake. Djubrad, means trash all of them.

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        • GB Bari says:

          Comey’s actions followed his weasel words… for the most part.

          Barr, OTOH, talks tough and righteous but then fails to act on even the most rudimentary cases of obvious lawbreaking by government employees.

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    • zekness says:

      Barr, like so many other esteemied defenders of the state, evaluate risk in terms that most of us cannot contemplate.

      he’s sees the risk as trivial to the citizen. It’s not his mandate. This has been his MO from day one.

      He believes the best means to protect the rule of law, is to insulate the institutions powered by law against “unnecessary” limits. To him, it’s not so much as protecting criminal acts, as it is to avoid the risk of a loss of power by committing a real effort to clean it up.

      He is also politically savvy…and not entirely corrupt. (there are few distinctions to be made however in the consequences as it does achieve a two standard irreconcilable challenge to true justice…) He is aware of these risks.

      Barr sees his role as the caretaker of a “higher” priority.

      It is his goal that the powers not be limited, even if it means no taking proper discipline to to “edge cases” of abuse of those powers.

      He straddles a dicey fence.

      He understands the risk and has taken the position that the corruption exists, but the power of the DOJ cannot be threatened or diminished. This is more than just some morale issue he is dealing with. It is an institutional power struggle. He does not want to engage that debate. He wants to avoid it.

      It’s similar in simple cases at the local police department. Yes, there are some scumbag people…yes, they have abused power, even criminally. But let’s not burn the station down or entertain the idea that removing power from the whole as an answer to some edge cases of abuse. This is a reasonable principle of sound leadership, given any organization is eventually going to be confronted with this kind of dynamic risk.

      What Barr needs to understand however, is that this is more than just corruption and edge cases.

      what took place, was a full scale institution-wide abuse of power to intentionally influence by force of a de facto coup against a presidential candidate…using the most extreme and controversial powers of surveillance that cuts away at the 4th….and threatened the will of the american people, where the very constitution is very direct in the matter.

      In many ways, Barr has chosen the worst possible option….and will achieve no success in helping the agenda (his) to continue the power the DOJ depends upon to perform its constitutional imperative. He will go down as not so smart and narrow minded and ineffective as a leader.

      The answer, which he has so far, refused to even entertain, is that the DOJ can operate to its constitutional imperative, and at the same time clean shop. He has this ability and the opportunity to do so, should be of the highest priority right now.

      Doing that, not only restores the morale and proper leadership and makes it unambiguous to the department about mission, but it restores the very solid constitutional foundations and principles that allow it to go forward.

      when you drag dirty cops down the road, doing nothing about misconduct and criminal acts, pretending this protects the institutions as a whole, you injure the institutions in ways that are much more profound than the injustice perpetrated by the few within it.

      Barr does not seem to understand this common mistake in leadership.

      Barr, in my opinion, is not dancing on the fence. He has decided there is no fence. And that both pastures, the corrupt on that side, and the lawful on this side, can be separated by a ridiculous attempt to ignore the distinctions.

      He understands the gravity of making this choice. And yet, does not act.

      I tell you this folks…in the bigger picture, not acting faithfully to an objective correction to the rule of law here, is the greater crime. This cover-up by doing nothing is much more heavy and severe than the attempted coup laying at its feet.

      it normalizes and institutionalizes the highest levels of corruption…

      it signals: if you commit the highest criminal act in this department, you will go unchallenged.

      If President Trump does not fire this man soon, I am going to have some serious problems understanding how the President is going to stand a chance of a clean re-election in a few months.

      Because that is the risk. It impossible for me to imagine that President Trump is not aware of this risk. And why he is not doing something about that right now, has me completely baffled.

      I can really only think of a few speculative reasons why trump is not acting..and frankly, none of them seem re-assuring.

      a. Barr is doing something, but waiting for a more opportunte time for reasons and calculus that is not obvious. (probability: low….Barr does not have the demonstrated legacy of this)
      b. President Trump is in calculus from a political risk, cannot do this now, and must wait for something else to happen first. I can’t imagine what that must be, but as the old safe goes “bad news does not age well”….act now, because waiting only adds risk…
      c. Is Durham really doing something that will deliver the evidence of criminal violations that Barr can draw from? Is that what the hold up is about? Is Barr refusing to directly initiate justice because he wants the indepdence of the SC Durham to drive it? possible, in theory, but why have’nt we seen more prosecutors hired and more court filings? If the case records are any clues, this SC is not active at a level we would expect a larger scope for the coup attempt….
      d. Is there some “understanding” or “deal” that Barr has entered into to, that requires that he not get this investigation into the public air, until after the election is over. There is a pretty good basis for doing just that, given the injury to the 2016 election by having the DOJ/FBI involved so closely to that cycle. Perhaps that is the concern here also…that the election should be free of the chaos that is created when high profile politically related criminal investigations happen around key elections. I think that IS important to consider..and maybe that is what is timing the eventual public airing of any future actions
      e. Maybe Barr just isn’t up to the task…because the corruption is so widespread in scale.
      Because it is. Maybe Barr is looking for a way out of taking action because he just isn’t capable. Not that he doesn’t want to…But he knows the amount of energy and time required is just not feasible…for him….Maybe he just can’t do THAT kind of effort. Not making excuses for him, but it does look pretty damned mission impossible to take it all down. Maybe he just doesn’t want to do it or can’t. Maybe Barr is just well past his prime and the job belongs to someone more motivated to take the challenge and get more help from dedicated warrior patriots who are willing to take up the unforgiving hours of time and energy required to get the institution back to condition normal.

      Why doesn’t Trump fire this man? mystery. Trump goes through management like I go through printer paper…Because he knows that people are good at one or two things and can deliver for just a few missions. Once that is complete, he is looking for the next better person to take on the next challenge. it’s what he does…like a true winner would. He makes no illusions about the goals he wants to achieve. This isn’t personal..it’s business.

      business that hasn’t been acknowledged or witnessed in a very long time in American “politics”

      Trump needs to get rid of him….this mission here is way too important to have Barr stand in the way of getting it done.

      imho

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      • Guy-Blanc Déploré says:

        Bravo. You covered a lot of ground there, and asked the questions I think a lot of us are asking. It’s so awfully frustrating because we just. don’t. have. enough. info. 😡

        I’m not sure we’ll ever get answers, and it’s infuriating.

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      • jmgreenwell says:

        Excellent analysis, Zekness.

        “ I tell you this folks…in the bigger picture, not acting faithfully to an objective correction to the rule of law here, is the greater crime. This cover-up by doing nothing is much more heavy and severe than the attempted coup laying at its feet.”

        I agree. Barr has to understand the gravity of the situation and still does not act. There can be no gray in the clean up. It’s either based on the Constitution/rule of law or it’s not, leading us to the conclusion that he must go.

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      • TPW says:

        There are mountains of evidence and he could have brought charges much earlier if than election year…excuse…..also Barr may have been sticking his toe in the water …seeing how we accepted his not bringing charges against Comey mcCabe…all good …no charges acceptable. We get what we deserve.

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    • cboldt says:

      Loss of the fundamental principle of “federal government of LIMITED power” is at the bottom of this rot.
      If the federal government had respected the limits the constitution set for it, we’d not be in this mess. Most of the federal government exists because of federal government decisions that claim power the federal government does not possess under the constitution.
      This problem took off in the 1910’s, accelerated like a rocket since the 1940’s, and is totally out of control now.
      It is a house of cards built on fundamental dishonesty and rank abuse of power.
      The people are ignorant, and now half of them are clamoring for MORE government.
      It’s toast. Going to be burnt toast. There is no way to reverse the process. Governments NEVER voluntarily relinquish power.

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    • Jim says:

      That opinion is so spot on. It’s sickening how lawless people in our government have become. Even more sickening that the people charged with defending the law (Barr) are ignoring those who have broken it.

      ….”That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security”.

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  9. Tim Cunningham says:

    According to Kim Strassel of the WSJ, https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-block-fisa-reform-11582847296, the Dems may be letting the FISA reauthorization die – which could be another solution!

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    • Streak 264 says:

      You have to be a paid subscriber for that.
      Thanks anyway.

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    • Jan says:

      I’d definitely support FISA’s expiration. The FBI, DOJ & Intelligence Agencies have proved they cannot be trusted. And it just got re-emphasized picking someone who abused the FISA process to report to the FISA Court on reforms.

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    • If the Dems are blocking it, the only explanation is that they fear being on the receiving end.

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    • grumpyqs says:

      Thanks Tim; that explains a lot! If in “letting it die”, they can wheel all evidence of their criminal acts to the incinerator and make it disappear; they will have succeeded and be able to gloat about it. Now they’re resisting efforts to manage a pandemic! PURE EVIL!

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    • cboldt says:

      They are not letting it die. They are angling for a clean reauthorization. Absence of hearings, no controversy, etc.
      It’s going to be reauthorized. Meanwhile it serves as a soap box for pointless grandstanding by the likes of Sens. Lee and Paul.
      I bet there are hundreds of full time employees serving this make-work project. No way is the government going to excess that many investigators and lawyers.

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  10. Laurie Walker says:

    I suggest you watch the British tv series “The Sandbaggers” to understand the politics of the intelligence agencies. And that was before the woke, never been challenged idiots we have now.

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  11. islandpalmtrees says:

    No process is any better than the people operating it. The IC has shown themselves untrustworthy to have such a powerful tool as the NSA Database at their disposal. Even the creator of this tool foresaw the misuse of this tool.

    Add to this that the FISA judges have shown themselves unwilling to prosecute those who break the existing laws Governing, the use of the NSA Database. We have no reason to believe that additional laws will prevent corrupt men from ignoring them.

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    • zekness says:

      correct on all accounts you’ve listed.

      in my view, the FISC never had by way of law, a method for holding to account the abuses (who watches the watchers? House oversight? laughable! Internal to the FISC? An obvious conflict of interest exists there too)

      the issue of FISA and Patriot Act are profound AND broken in so many areas.

      the RISK is observed as real and demonstrated …not as a potential for abuse…but of AN ACTUAL set of practices so poorly designed that abuse is almost guaranteed.

      and this isn’t solely related to the coup.

      this is related to spying on american citizen, unchecked that has been reported officially that centers around doing an end run around the FISA warrant process itself!

      RADM Rogers reported it in great detail and it was not a trivial number of abuses that the FISC was never informed about and even when it was made aware…no discipline or reform other than suspending “17” about provisions. There were no permanent lawful repeals to this very abused unlawful access. Congress did not act to repeal it out of FISA or Patriot…they just temporarily suspended it. What does that even mean? It means nothing. The reality is that unless another whistleblower committed to the rule of law, like RADM Rogers, comes forward, we will never know if about searches outside of the FISA authority and the FISC court is even happening? This isn’t good.. I make the laws entirely dependent on the rare occasions that some one person will willing to put their foot down. This is not a good control mechanism for keeping the program lawful. But this is the direct consequences of a lack of action to investigate and to hold account to the unlawful searches. There were no penalties and there were no permanent reforms to the law. It was literally swept under the rug…

      and here we are with evidence the abuses were much more severe than just 85% of unlawful searches outside of the FISC control. We have provable evidence that fraud was committed before the FISC control, and it was inadequate to have the means to properly test against that corruption.

      This isn’t just a failure or a bug. This is a complete failure in every respect.
      .

      This secret court and the laws that were passed to give this power of surveillance must end..It has proven unlawful in both method and in practice. It has created a space that allows abuse with no means apparently to look for it and test against it.

      and then we get into the reality that this isn’t even constitutional. DUE process does not exist for the target, the american citizen. The slimmest veneer of suspicious is used to steer the most powerful rights violating spying operations against a citizen that is innocent until proven guilty…a system that is designed to look for the crime with no real requirement to prove the spying is truly dependent on thresholds that any normal court would require. The FISC apparently does not require it be established! And now we are concerned after the violations to be concerned it was on dirty assumptions.

      this things was built to be abused.

      If I wanted to create a platform that is designed to violate every single constitutional protections provided by the constitution…I would design the FISA and patriot powers.

      and this is exactly what we have.

      a power to flush due process right down the toilet.

      it’s dangerous…it’s proven dangerous.

      and it must be killed…both FISA and partiot has to be killed.

      if the FBI wants to spy on an American citizen, it will get a warrant from a normal court, where the target is given the due process protection from a real judge that can evaluate the priority and law..

      the near 100 percent approval rate should have been our clue this was never a good idea. Out of the shoot, this should have been obvious.

      we got caught sleeping…congress is up to its ear balls in this corruption.

      there is no oversight.

      there is no one elected who has dared to slow this down.

      and here we are again, with congress trying its best to sneak this damned thing in the emerging disease budget bill.

      the criminal irony is slaying me.

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      • 3rdday61 says:

        Couldn’t agree more. I say enough talk. It’s time for action.
        No excuses. Only solutions.
        And always remember,
        If God be for us, who can be against us?

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      • lftpm says:

        Correction: ADM Rogers (4-star), not RADM (1-2 star)

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      • jmgreenwell says:

        Again, Zekness, excellent post. I would venture to say though, that we as citizens weren’t necessarily caught sleeping, but were/are frustrated beyond belief with the unwieldiness of the Federal government and only by Providence elected a Trump into office and had Patriots with access to hidden information, step up like Rogers, Sundance, Nunes, Giuliani (as well as brave whistleblowers who have risked/given their lives) – and make it known to the American public. The sunlight is forcing more and more good people to act, though without a plan only God could allow to unfold, and a President bold and courageous enough to enact it, I fear we patriotic mere mortals may be numbered too few too late.

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        • TPW says:

          Nunes Jordan Rudy…doesnt matter if we have an AG unwilling to do his job.

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        • zekness says:

          I most certainly was not implying that serious minded patriots were snoring away….Sometimes, I get carried away and the finer details escape my ability…

          the reality is this: WE KNOW this issue (SECRET SPY POWERS AND THE POLICE STATE) should be the number ONE election point of order every day and for every single election cycle. Since, the very moment it came up for renewal…WE KNOW this. WE KNOW this was an abomination. WE UNDERSTOOD THE REASONS WHY IT WAS catapulted over the constitution. For the few that cared to KNOW THIS, it was never going to work out well. For those not sleeping have been engaged in exposing it for what it is for a very long time…even before the patriot act for some of us. secret courts are just stupid and counter to everything that is valuable and worth protecting.

          unfortunately, the WE DON”T KNOWS, the WHY SHOULD I CARE, and the DOESN”T AFFECT ME have been sleeping for a very long time.

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  12. Brittney says:

    P/T most likely is giving Barr 90 days and no longer than 120 days to implement indictments to everyone involved in the coup.

    If Barr doesn’t implement Justice; P/T is 100% responsible.

    P/T is 100% or more responsible for Justice.

    P/T has many paths to implement Justice (Judicial Watch implied).

    P/T will implement Justice with or without Barr.

    Given P/T powers of the Constitution, has a bound duty to the American People to implement Justice.

    90% of criminals will Plea; individual coup criminals will not plea if the criminals believe prosecutors are weak and show any signs of being concerns of bad jury pools (jury nullification).

    Justice will happen to about 90% (plea deals) of the criminals and the 10% left (jury trials) would bring justice in the range of 90% to 100% of the criminals facing Justice. If you lose all (10%) the criminal trials, you would still have 90% of the coup/criminals facing justice. If you win all the trials (10%) the criminals facing justice would be at 100%. The criminals facing justice would be between 90% and 100%.

    The long jury trials process will destroy the criminal’s financial, mentally and physically etc. This is Justice!

    Jury nullification accounted for; we know the prosecution has both the true facts and the true laws and the criminals have fake facts and fake/no laws to protect their actions. If the jury has a not-guilty verdict, we know they did not apply the law exactly as it is given. Therefore, it would be on record, the criminal cases lost, has to do with jurors not-believing in the rule of law, U.S. Constitution, United States and our way of life. The jury would be on record of intentionally not convicting a criminal with a clear paper trail of evidence and the criminal codes (laws), showing the motive for their not-guilty verdict was a form of anarchy.

    I repeat; The long jury trials process will destroy the criminal’s financial, mentally and physically etc. This is Justice!

    P/T will implement Justice.

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    • Greg says:

      I always understood Mario Puzo’s novel “GodFather”…but now I really understand!

      If Barr came out of retirement to become the worst A/G in U.S. history and to destroy himself, so be it.

      PDJT set the perfect stages for this moment for “easy prosecutions” and it would be President Trump, who would be known throughout history, for being a weak President of not being able to implement Justice; allowing the destruction of the Rule of Law, Constitution and the United States.

      This would never happen; PDJT will implement Justice.

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      • John says:

        Great Presidents do not just point out the need to fight in WW-1, WW-2 and the revolutionary war; they actually went to war and won.

        P/T has pointed out the corruption to destroy this country from within our own government for over 3-years; P/T will act and implement easy prosecutions (Justice).

        The Rule of Law is the shield that protects the Constitution and the American People.

        The ramifications of not implementing Justice, is equal to losing the Revolutionary War, WW-1 and WW-2.

        P/T will implement Justice

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    • 90 to 120 is TOO long

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    • John says:

      I believe P/T red line s/b about 60 to 90 days for Barr to implement Justice.

      IMO-If Barr doesn’t implement Justice, than he is worse than the coup/criminals and would be a traitor to our country because he knows not doing his sworn duty for the American people and the Constitution, will eventually bring the U.S. to a 3rd world status (common sense logic).

      Barr would be worse than Comey and all of the criminals. At least the coup/criminals had an alleged motive of “MORE” money/power, believing 99% Hillary was going to be President. The coup/criminals allegedly were allowing Hillary, to place the final nail in the coffin of the United States for more power/money. This is logical for criminals to be motivated for more money/power; still unbelievable that they would destroy this entire country, knowingly. What is Barr’s motive?

      Barr coming out of retirement to allegedly betray Justice, Rule of Law, Constitution and fool/trick the American people, and instead is allegedly aiding and abetting criminal acts (willful blindness), who tried to take down the President of the United States, by framing P/T of criminal acts that the coup/criminals allegedly did, to overturn the will of the American people, is beyond being a criminal. Barr knows P/T won the Presidential election and the American people has seen the evidence that is way beyond a reasonable doubt, is beyond criminal for Barr not to implement Justice. What is the motive?

      YOU WROTE and I 100% agree:
      1. If Barr doesn’t implement Justice; P/T is 100% responsible.
      2. P/T is 100% or more responsible for Justice.
      3. P/T has many paths to implement Justice (Judicial Watch implied).
      4. I will add; easy prosecutorial cases to prosecute and P/T has a Bound duty to the Constitution and the American people to implement Justice.
      EQUALS: Point in Fact; if President Trump doesn’t use his power to implement Justice, P/T would be worse than Barr because the President has the ultimate power to implement Justice and has already passed on many opportunities to implement Justice, to set up easy prosecutions today.

      President Trump will be known throughout history, as the worst President in U.S. history, who allowed the coup/criminals to convert the U.S. into a 3rd world country.

      We know for the past 25 years, there has been no one but P/T who had the courage/brilliance to point out all the criminal acts, for the past 3-years, along with the evidence. If P/T fails to accomplish the most important Presidential act in U.S. history, and if there are no other heroes left in this Republic, than we the people “deserve the faith” of living in a 3rd world country.

      History has shown us, when the people of a country are weak and there are no brave/courageous leaders to fight, they lose their freedoms. The United States tells other countries to fight for their freedoms at any cost.

      Anyone who states Justice is not going to happen is really stating all of the above undisputable facts.

      P/T brilliant/brave acts for the past 3-years have inspired a few great men/women (small army) who are fighting for Justice. P/T will lead them to help the P/T implement Justice.

      President Trump 100% will implement Justice, with or without Barr.

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  13. BitterC says:

    I saw tonite that “they”(not sure who) are going to tie the FISA reauthorization to the Corona funding bill

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    • Jan says:

      They = the Dimms, McConnell, Graham, and the regular cast of RINOs. Rand Paul is the only Senator I’ve seen who wants it reformed. Freedom Caucus sides with Rand Paul, especially Nunes. The President wants reform.

      To “hide” this reauthorization in an appropriations bill tells you the abuse will go on.

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  14. Rj says:

    What James Wolfe did should be one of the most severe crimes for any government employee and there should be very strict guidelines no matter who the judges are.

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    • jambo says:

      Agreed. If the guy whose office was literally inside the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility can leak the entire contents of one of the most classified documents relating to the biggest govt scandal in US history and get a slap on the wrist then DC needs to be levelled and replaced with heads on pikes. Pour encourages les autre.

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    • Jan says:

      Wolfe’s criminal action was in the DC federal court, not the FISA court. Jessie Liu, the U.S. Attorney, accepted the plea because Wolfe was threatening to depose the entire Senate Intel Committee.

      It’s very likely that Senators Burr and/or Warner and/or someone else on the Committee gave Wolfe the instruction to leak the Carter Page FISA warrant to the media. Had Wolfe taken this to trial, he would have exposed that the Senate Intel Committee is part of the coup.

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      • jx says:

        Expose the Senate Intel Committee is part of the coup? Well we can’t have that, can we? And so Liu joined the coup.

        It’s the same with Barr. His answer regarding DOJ corruption, “they’re gone”, indicates that in his view there’s no need to prosecute anyone. Their leaving DOJ is good enough. And so Barr joins the coup.

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    • Can “they” go back and try him for the more serious charge?

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  15. Beverly says:

    Well I am afraid you were right all along Sundance. Barr is a snake like the rest of them.

    The evil rot goes deep.

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  16. CB says:

    Veto FISA no matter how it’s dressed. It’s that important. They can rewrite any bill so there is no excuse to vote for an omnibus.

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  17. CB says:

    I have a plan to deal with this. The Republicans can just not show up to any packed deal or vote on it. That way Trump can veto it and say it was a junk partisan bill that needs to be written properly.

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    • Dutchman says:

      CB;
      The problem with your plan is McConnell, Republicon majority leader in the Senate, WANTS FISA renewed, without changes or hearings.

      He may appear to relent, to ‘reforms’ which (as Fitton ponts out) are just head fake.

      He and the SSCI WANT the current system of FISA abuse to continue, because they benefit.

      So, looking to Republicons in Senate to do the right thing, and block FISA renewal, is like counting on the,Fox, to count the eggs.

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      • Yes, not to mention the fact that, if they had wanted to, they could have just as easily not shown up for the impeachment…except, oops, they were in the majority in the Senate, and THAT would have been embarrassing…to ANY paid clown/petty racketeer/moral degenerate (hint, hint:).

        This FISA runaround by both Barr and Congress tells everyone (SHOULD tell everyone) that they are ALL complicit, in the ongoing attempted coup d’etat against our elected President. They are “whistling past the graveyard”, determined to not speak “the name that cannot be spoken” (that name being “treasonous coup d’etat”, also known as “Obama”).

        I already put in my two cents, worth trillions of dollars (it pleases me to think):

        conservative treehouse

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  18. islandpalmtrees says:

    If the reports are correct then Barr is just another CIA person connected to the FISA process. David Kris and Judge Boasberg have many connections to the CIA. So do you really think all of these CIA related people are accidental? Which organization would benefit most from the FISA process renewal? Which organization took the lead in the coup against President Trump, CIA or FBI? Which organization did Carter Page worked for? Which organization(s) did Peter Strzok work for? The list goes on and goes.

    FOIA Docs Show Anti-Trump DOJ Official Appointed to Oversee FISA Reforms Sending Draft WaPo Op-Eds Attacking Nunes to DOJ’s National Security Division
    January 27, 2020, by Cristina Laila

    JUST IN: Reps Jordan, Meadows Send Letter to Judge Boasberg Demanding Answers About David Kris’s Appointment to Oversee FISA Reforms
    January 16, 2020, by Cristina Laila

    “You Can’t Make This Up!” – President Trump Blasts Corrupt FISA Court After Far Left anti-Trump Official David Kris Appointed to Oversee the Court’s Reform
    January 12, 2020, by Jim Hoft

    FISA Court Appoints Obama-Era National Security Leader at DOJ to Review FBI Reforms
    January 10, 2020, by Cristina Laila

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  19. Slip Knotz says:

    Hopefully they go to jail and all commit suicide like Epstein. And as for FISA- The Republicans should boycott anything unclean so that Trump can call the bills junk & advise Congress to just do their jobs that they are being paid to do.

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  20. Les D says:

    As a timeline reference: Wolfe was indicted June 2018, 21 mos ago, after getting hot with the FBI for an April 2017 fake news item 34 mos ago posted by his girl that Carter Page was in touch w/ a Ruski Intel Agent in 2013. Sessions recuses from Russia-gate March 2017. Rosy takes Russia stuff which included Wolfe’s fake news leak about Russia, and aproved or master minded the plea negotiation with Jesse Liu for 60 days jail. Plea bargain announced Oct 2018. Nov 2018 Sessions resigns and Whitaker arrives.. Wolfe sentenced Dec 2018. Barr arrives Feb 2019

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  21. HecklerDon says:

    I am such a fan of this site and have so much respect for so many of you. And to the extent your comments may put pressure on AG Barr to act more swiftly, I appreciate them (to the extent they work). Honestly, though, this is one of the rare instances where I cannot agree at this point in time. Once the outcome of Durham’s work becomes fully apparent, as well as how the FISA abuses will be dealt with, fully and finally, you all may well prove to be correct. But quoting Barr in his interview with the “he’s making it impossible to do my job,” with all due respect, is ignorant. Watch the whole interview if you would like to understand what the man was saying, rather than accepting the distorted and evil fake news media’s framing of specific quotes out of context to make them appear to mean something they did not and do not mean. Also do not underestimate President Trump’s longstanding penchant for pacing himself and moving strategically and in accordance with his own plans and strategies, of which we are not fully aware. This great man is 10 steps ahead, not just 1 or 2. Also, has anyone noticed how the media’s howls for AG Barr’s removal have gone silent since all of this hit the news? Hmmm…. well for such a “terrible” thing for Barr to say, the effect of his interview has been beautiful. The one thing Barr rushed to correct was the fake news about him considering resigning, which was totally fabricated. I know everyone on this board wants justice and wants is YESTERDAY. But again, you all have no ability to comprehend the depths of President Donald J. Trump. This is truth because this great man is one of the 5 greatest geniuses to ever walk the fact of the planet, and you all are not (although SD is pretty close, I must admit! Hat tip!)

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    • Deplorable Incisor says:

      Most of the pols in DC are actors playing on a stage in front of an audience.
      They are there to entertain and enthrall THE PEOPLE so that the people do not see what is going on behind them. They proclaim great things and wow the crowd with seemingly marvelous feats so that the crowd will not turn around and see that everything they once had is BURNED TO THE GROUND.
      At some point we are going to turn around, see what is going on and wonder how they fooled us. For over 4 years now we have had a fully exposed corrupt criminal conspiracy staring us all in the face. I’m not buying the “trust the plan” BS anymore.

      No one is going to jail except Trump people and the Republic, well it ain’t one anymore.

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    • MAGA Minuteman says:

      I am such a fan as well.

      Sundance’s being able to predict the FISA renewal would be tied to Corona Virus funding shows an ability to see same the pattern again and again to the point where one can predict the next move.

      I could give plenty of examples of that predictable pattern (i.e. one crazy nut shooter and we must ban all guns, terrorist attack and we must set up huge surveillance state, fake global warming hysteria and we must control your lifestyle). All of these things follow the same pattern of less freedom for US citizens and more power centralized in the corrupt ruling class. The pattern, once recognized, becomes so obvious that the next move becomes predictable, as Sundance has here shown here.

      With respect to this FISA issue, the sunlight shining brightly on this issue has to have an impact. If AG Barr has said many things with respect to the corruption going on to the point where he said “La Resistance” weaponized several government institutions against the incoming President and his administration. Those are his words spoken freely. By comparison Director Wray would only admit things when directly pressed by Rep Ratcliffe.

      If AG Barr is truly a man of his word, then we should be able to hold him to his word. Our constant pressure of intense sunlight may assist him in being a man of his word. “We are watching, we are on to your pattern and we are not looking away”.

      I don’t know how this is all going to play out, but I trust our President Trump and his incredible ability to hold people to their word.

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  22. Dutchman says:

    There is, as yet no WILL to prosecute anyone. Without the will to do the,act, nothing happens. And we have had a whole lot of nothing for 3 years.

    The lack of will, the clear signal communicating lack of will comes from Congress, and specifically the,Republicon controlled Senate.

    By both actions and inactions they are sending clear signals, easily understood by the swamp creatures, to continue the coverup, and continue the coup.

    Until that,dynamic is changed, we will see no prosecutions, and without prosecutions the coup attempts and resistance will continue.

    Its all about WILL, and I DON’T mean “Will” Barr.

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    • amwick says:

      The problem is there is will, amongst us,,, we know who we are, but there does not seem to be a will within the DOJ. That is a building friction,, So your point about the DOJ, is spot on. The question is how long can this friction build?

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      • Dutchman says:

        IMHO, its not that there is no will in DOJ, its that there is,no will in Congress, specifically Senate leadership.

        And its for the same reason there was no will to expose the truth about Benghazi, that a rougue operation carried out by State, sanctioned BY the SSCI, put sophisticated US weoponry in the hands of terrorists.

        Similarly, the leadership of BOTH parties in the Senate and House SANCTIONED and Countenanced the coup attempt.
        They are complicit, hence no WILL to hold anyone accountable, because it would inevitably lead right to them.

        Same with Wolfe, of coarse.

        But, I agree the will is building in the hinterlands of America.
        And, our capacity for patience is finite.

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        • amwick says:

          You could be right,,, I know there is no will in Congress, but I just don’t trust the DOJ… That being said, I hope I am wrong.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Oh, I don’t think you are,wrong, at all. Its a matter of source or WILL, or lack of WILL.

            And power centers. Don’t trust the DOJ as far as I can throw my 10 ton truck, but they are taking their cues from Congress, and all the messages they are getting from Congressional leadership, from day one, say “keep couping on”!

            Encouragement rather than DIScouragement. For instance;
            What kind of a message did it send, when Ryan authorised the bogus ethics investigation of Nunes, for ‘outing’ what he had found?’
            When SSCI in Republican majority Senate has no hearings exposing the IC (cia, nsa and fbi) involvement in the coup attempt.
            When Senate Judiciary, (again in REPUBLICAN majority Senate) has no hearings to counter the Mueller narrative, and none to investigate FISA abuse, etc.

            It sends a clear signal, in swampspeak; “we support the coup, the coverup, and the ongoing resistance; KEEP GOING!”

            And without any clear signal otherwise, from major power center of swamp, they WILL keep going,….

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            • amwick says:

              They are only a separate but equal branch on paper.. it seems..

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              • Dutchman says:

                Over 250 years, they have eroded not only the bill of rights, but the delicate seperation of powers as established in the Constitution.

                Rather than an “Imperial Presidency” often hyped, what we actually have is a Politobeuro tyrany by committee.

                The subverting of “Advice and CONSENT” to “you take who we GIVE you” on nominees, the growth of the administrative state and administrative law, the manipulation of Congress SEEMING to cede their clear responsibility to declare war, while retaining the power while shirking the responsibility, the growth of the IC, all have eroded the Constitutional seperation and BALANCE of power.

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  23. MelH says:

    https://operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com/2020/01/dem-panic-grows-over-mysterious-sealed.html
    This is a unique read, suggesting marshall Law, I think. But I suspect what you think may differ. It seems important, and gives me hope.

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  24. revarmegeddontthunderbird says:

    If you do the crime you do the time!

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  25. revarmegeddontthunderbird says:

    If you do the crime you do the time!

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  26. KevinK says:

    First get an AG. I don’t think anyone wants the job when you consider 99.9999% of the DOJ (I’m being generous) are corrupt deep staters. They need to go, all of them, including the FBI CIB and every other corrupt alphabet security department. Until this happens we’re going nowhere.

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  27. Mathias says:

    Durham can’t/won’t do the obvious convening of a Grand Jury, because he knows, from what he knows, that that would immediately lead to the windy bs’ing, Smolletish “community organizer” from Chiraq. That’s a big problem for Durhamesque white people men types, who deem to stay tight & invited to elite political penthouse parties. There’s no way in a thousand years, he’s going to have his name in history doing a James Byrd prosecutorial dragging on Barry’s rep. No way he wants to go where this really goes.

    Let’s look at a comparable moment. In the 1960’s, the left and the stealth left media wanted to drive the cause of Civil Rights. MLK was singing “I have a dream” poetry…”that one day, I will not be judged by the color of my skin, but by the content of my character.” Unfortunately, for the media dreamers, they knew the rumors were true, that as he sang the song, he didn’t dance the dance. As he was giving those grandiose speeches, MLK was indeed trying to get to the mountaintop…he was setting up 2-day orgies with white hookers. That was the reality of “the content of his character.” How would that of affected the 60’s civil rights movement, if their leader was shown to be a total fraud? So that got all washed away by omission and time, by the “gatekeepers,” until the mission was achieved and all who cared, have long since passed.

    You see, urban limousine liberals are the woke-makers and the truth takers. Truth cannot be allowed to get in the way of the glorious lie. The “first black president,” great, ethical, blah blah “Barry lie” must be protected at all costs. It is the most important thing they’ll ever do. That’s why the media has been so psychotic in their weird, daily “hide the salami” distractions. We’re fighting a cult, protecting their most sacred tenet.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      yep. humans are so flawed, tedious and tiresome. I hear they’re capable of greatness too. Probably time to see some of that in the West. Its been a long while.

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    • TJ says:

      President Trump gave the Pope a first-edition, custom-bound set of Martin Luther King Jr.‘s works and an engraved stone from the King memorial.

      President Trump was accused, by the FBI, of having urine parties with Russian hookers.

      MLK started in the 1950s.

      The FBI infiltrated his organization and sabotaged his rallies with provocateurs.

      The CIA went further.

      When the C.I.A. Duped College Students
      https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/03/23/a-friend-of-the-devil
      The Cult of Intelligence
      https://www.amazon.com/CIA-Cult-Intelligence-Victor-Marchetti/dp/0394482395/

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      • IGiveUp says:

        yes. the secret police always work for the Establishment–whether it’s controlled as currently by the libs or previously by the Repubs. That’s how it’s intended to work. Hopefully one day I’ll see it working on behalf of things I value. For ex. I wish the CIA would infiltrate colleges today and root out leftists.

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      • Mathias says:

        TJ, all true. Yes, King was targeted. That still doesn’t change my argument that he shouldn’t have gone around as a Reverend, preaching eternal justice and cosmic morality, while actually having none of those personal traits himself. He demanded to be judged by the content of his character, so I did what he asked.

        Was President Trump likewise targeted as “a man falsely accused” with Russian smears, by our government? Yes. But why did Brennan/Comey think they could use the false dossier info? Because Storybook Stormy wasn’t pulling it all out of her ***. There was enough innuendo fact, to support the fiction. At least President Trump wasn’t portraying himself as a Saint, like the myth around MLK. The factual evidence about MLK’s true “hidden character” is confirmed by friend and foe alike.

        Can you imagine how many tourists would visit the MLK memorial, in D.C., if we had the more historically accurate, massive MLK orgy statue, taking up 75 yards? I’m not afraid of “real history” massaging the eyeballs of the national conscience, on any subject.

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  28. zekness says:

    “Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent; selected from the rest of mankind their minds are early poisoned by importance; and the world they act in differs so materially from the world at large, that they have but little opportunity of knowing its true interests, and when they succeed to the government are frequently the most ignorant and unfit of any throughout the dominions.”

    Thomas Paine, “Common Sense”

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  29. zekness says:

    I just made a call to President Zelensky.

    I’ve asked him if he would take the time to call President Trump and do “US” a favor and have AG Barr fired for not pursuing criminal violations or even looking into the Biden scandal with Burisma and his son. And that if President Trump will not do that, that Ukraine will return all of the javelins, loans and aid money AND dump the money laundering case into the public square so that everyone is aware that WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT BARR KNOWS.

    WE KNOW.

    I think President Zelensky is very aware this problem that Barr is is not willing to correct is not only hurting his country…but that it is hurting his UKR AND US national security against the the real threat and risk that Ukraine loses the support of the US against a common larger military threat that is Russia, aka the US IC coup plotters (and the russian aggression still playing out in eastern Ukraine with real consequences in a very real way for UKR sovereignty and security)

    You folks might think I am kidding.

    I’m not.

    sh#ts about to get real

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    • Greg1 says:

      What did President Zelensky say in his response to you?

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      • zekness says:

        It was satirical….a comedy…but one that exposes another side of the corruption and the REAL threats about societies and cultures we should all be concerned about defending.

        Russia is a threat. There really is no way to avoid that conversation.

        there is a reason why the US foreign policy considers tge Ukraine defense against aggression very high on the immediate threat scale.

        there is a a reason why the president SHOULD CONTINUE to “ask favors FOR US” that Ukraine look into what appears to be widespread corruption that has interferred with the balance of power and rule of law in that country…

        there is also a alternate and equal reason why it would be in the best interests of Ukraine (and others) that this president place the highest pressure on the DOJ to clean house.

        it cuts both ways..because the US ends any illusions of leadership and higher moral authority on rule of law, when it makes corruption within the department of justice, the very branch of the three okay and acceptable.

        poe’s law applies to this, but I intentionall ommitted the /s tag. I consider it still an open debate point and I also realize there are many “foreign patriots” who read this CTH and get a study on what some of the issues the US is facing that seem very urgent and directly vital to the world at large.

        I just didn’t know how to put this hypothetical out there and then doom it as some distortion for the sake of satire alone.

        true comedy, and tragedy will contain some truths.

        this one is classic comedy-tragedy. that was the goal.

        I’m not so swell at it…but I try.

        perhaps a meme that illustrates the confounding irony is in order.

        I’m not very good at illustrations either…so count me out.

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  30. Parrot says:

    They are not “ashamed” and they don’t care how “exposed” they are if the DoJ doesn’t prosecute.
    If the DoJ doesn’t prosecute they simply claim any accusations were false.
    Easy as.
    The DoJ is their insurance policy and it’s operating superbly as premium insurance.
    Barr knows it.

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  31. RAC says:

    Barr: “President Trump’s tweets make it impossible for me to do my job”…
    Well that could be true or untrue, depending on how Barr defines what his job is. So far it appears to be protecting the Swamp.

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  32. scrap1ron says:

    “The key to reform is jail”.

    That’s the “key” to Wray’s training as well. The only thing to trust is the 4th Amendment. Abort the Patriot Act *dark sense of humor in that name*, and this secret court bs right now. DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, dammit!

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    • billybob says:

      I dunno ,2nd amendment isn’t half bad either.

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    • cboldt says:

      The 4th amendment is difficult to enforce as a matter of law. The remedy against the government is illusory, UNLESS you are charged with a crime and can get evidence suppressed.
      Add to that, courts, not the people, have the power to define “reasonable expectation of privacy.” The first phone tapping case at SCOTUS found that it was not reasonable to expect privacy in a phone call. No need for warrants to tap phones. An act of Congress changed that.
      Today, the government is keen on use of technology to snoop, keep track, etc. All in the name of public safety, but that’s just another word for herd control.
      Snooping will proceed to the extent technology enables it. The law is powerless, empty rhetoric – other than suppression of evidence in criminal trial.

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  33. John-Y128 says:

    We all agree Mr. Fitton, see if you can convince AG Barr, he’s in ‘cover-up’ mode at the DOJ.

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  34. TwoLaine says:

    I saw this last night on Lou’s show and thought it was a great conversation. Totally on the money. This is not rocket science.

    If I stole from my employer in the real world I would be prosecuted. I would be made to pay it back. If I defied my employer when they asked me to do something, I would be fired. If I lied to my employer, or any department therein, I would be fired, and perhaps taken to court depending on the crimes I committed. If I tried to set my employer up for a crime they did not commit, that was a hoax, I would be prosecuted.

    NO ONE knows more about the DOJ/FBIState et al being in coverup mode than Tom Fitton & Judicial Watch. They file for FOIAs, it drags on and on, they sue. If he’s lucky, 4 years later the sued dept starts “production” and it dribbles out over a period of who knows how long.

    President TRUMP may be transparent, the rest of THE SWAMP is not. There ought to be severe penalties for lack of transparency as well. This is our money they waste in court while they drag their feet. This is why we have 110,000 people in the Department of No Justice, and at least 10k attorneys who need ethics training (per Judge Hanen), and who believe they cannot be touched.

    Ad if a department believes they are untouchable, like the NSD, that department needs to be disbanded post-haste.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      The President needs a Transparency Coordinator, who reports directly to him, and then to the American public. They need to update us monthly on where each department is in fulfilling the gubt transparency requirements.

      They should start with all the requested Declassification of docs in all the hoaxes perpetrated on Donald TRUMP, his family and team.

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    • jx says:

      DOJ is completely rouge. I think resolving the problem will require the States getting involved, perhaps an Amendment establishing a tribunal for the sole purpose of prosecuting those involved in the coup and it’s cover-up – both are really the same thing. Most states are controlled by Republicans so it should be “no problem”, but they are phony weak willed and lacking direction. So we move one step closer to a Bastille type event where the people have to drag the miscreants out by their heels.

      Or Barr could do his job and do it with vigor. Yeah that’ll happen.

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    • George Connolly says:

      Two you suggest precisely the right approach. Bury them in facts. Please explain away the 17 errors in the IG report. We, the public, are not dumb or gullible, just misinformed. Blame the media.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        Comey stole docs, leaked those docs, then wrote a book about them, profiting from the stolen docs.

        These criminals now taunt us from their media perche. Just like Jussie Smollett did. They go on TV and say you can’t touch me and I will continue to lie about the hoaxes.

        They profit from their crimes, while we would be in jail.

        I hope everyone who was caught up in these jozexes sues the gubt for malicious prosecution. Maybe they need a class action suit from all of us.

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  35. Rick L says:

    I sat and watched a speech by Barr about the dangers of weakening the executive branch. Yet, he won’t demand they prosecute seditious acts and lawbreaking in the DoJ and FBI that weakened the presidency. I tried giving him a chance but the guy is just a phony. He is running out the clock for the swamp and they are all hoping Trump loses. They need someone like Fitton as an AG, this guy is for real.
    If Barr was like any of us here would he care about Trump tweeting about injustices in court cases etc? I would have said in that interview I agree with his tweets since the msm won’t give him fair coverage.

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    • George Connolly says:

      You are correct, Rick, Barr is playing both sides. Do not blame AG Barr, but leave him no alternative but to explain away the 17 errors and reconcile the errors with an IC that we the American people can trust. Cannot be done.

      Scrap FISA and while we are at it, let us take a second look at those “errors” and how they may have impacted the Just Us department’s prosecutorial discretion.

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  36. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    Barr: “President Trump’s tweets make it impossible for me to do my job”…

    Can’t seem to find where Barr mentioned this to Pete Williams

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    • OhNoYouDont says:

      The Barr ‘tweet’ interview was on ABC, not NBC.
      ABC News Pierre Thomas conducted the interview.

      Initially, ABC release a highly edited video which first aired on February 13, 2020.
      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/13/elbow-room-ag-barr-president-trump-tweets-make-it-impossible-for-me-to-do-my-job/

      After the ‘tweet’ interview became a “firestorm”, ABC quietly released the full text of the interview.

      Full Transcript of ABC Bill Barr Interview Shows Most Content Not Included In Broadcast Interview…
      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/14/full-transcript-of-abc-bill-barr-interview-shows-most-content-not-included-in-broadcast-interview/
      ___

      ****************** @ 1:35 of video ******************

      THOMAS: So you’re saying you have a problem with the tweets?

      BARR: Yes. Well, I have a problem with some of, some of the tweets.

      ********This part was cut out of ABC Broadcast on February 13th:********

      BARR: (continues uninterrupted) As I said at my confirmation hearing, I think the essential role of the Attorney General is to keep law enforcement, the criminal process sacrosanct to make sure there is no political interference in it. And I have done that and I will continue to do that.

      ****************** @ 1:42 of video ******************
      The ABC Broadcast on February 13th continues as a video cut from Barr to Thomas:

      BARR: (continues uninterrupted) And I’m happy to say that, in fact the president has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case. However, to have public statements and tweets made about the department, about our people in the department, our men and women here, about cases pending in the department, and about judges before whom we have cases, make it impossible for me to do my job and to assure the courts and the prosecutors in the department that we’re doing our work with integrity.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Yeah
        I know.
        Was kinda my point. (But don’t tell anyone)

        You should check out the NBC one I posted (if you haven’t already)

        Barr says no less than 6 times that Crossfire Hurricane collapsed in Jan 17
        (meaning Mueller never had a case)
        and a lot of other stuff.

        Pete Williams does a professional job of pretending not to hear him.

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        • OhNoYouDont says:

          Timeline of events that provides context:
          —–
          February 11th, 2020 – Four Muellar appointed US Attorneys quit case over sentencing guidelines over Roger Stone case. These wanted 7 to 9 years but was rebuked by main DOJ (Eventually, sentencing was determined at 40 months.)

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/justice-dept-to-reduce-sentencing-recommendation-for-trump-associate-roger-stone-official-says-after-president-calls-it-unfair/2020/02/11/ad81fd36-4cf0-11ea-bf44-f5043eb3918a_story.html
          —–
          February 12th, 2020, @RealDonaldTrump tweeted …

          Fake news started the “the president is making him look like his political lap dog,” questioning the integrity and independence of the AG and the DOJ.

          http://www.nytimes.com › politics › justice-department-roger-stone-sentencing
          Feb 12, 2020 – Attorney General William P. Barr’s intervention to lessen a prison … because the president is making him look like his political lap dog,” Mr. Goldsmith said. … of the Wolfe case, and Mr. Trump on Tuesday echoed it on Twitter.
          —–
          February 13th, 2020 – ABC releases a highly edited interview between Pierre Thomas and the Attorney General.

          Pierre Thomas asks “So you’re saying you have a problem with the tweets?”

          AG Barr responds with a 144 word statement attempting to explain the fake news hit job on Barr/DOJ doing the personal bidding of President Trump on the Stone case. This statement has been reduced to whatever the purveyor wants it to mean.

          This interview provided the basis to the Trump/Barr split, Barr resign stories that was a “firestorm” for a solid 96 hours.

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            Well you’ll love this.
            Nadler just gave Barr additional homework assignments for his appearance on Mar 31
            Also wants access to a bunch of career DOJ officials for testimony like Schiff did for Ukrainepeachment

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            • OhNoYouDont says:

              Poor Nadler lost his House Judiciary Committee Lawfare lawyers after the failed impeachment charade.

              Perhaps for this AG Barr hearing, Jerry will not be putting in his request to Cohen for a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken and a chicken prop.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        BTW: Awesome work on the links and specifics!

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        • OhNoYouDont says:

          Thank you for your compliment…

          There are various arguments indicating “getting rid of FISA.”
          Currently, I am working on a FISA list that shows the scope of the act:

          I have found 17 different FISA Sections (example Section 215) that have “a sunset provision” which needs re-authorization by Congress.

          I have found 18 different FISA Sections (example Section 216) that have been permanently enacted.

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  37. HB says:

    This is as simple as any problem can be. Quite infuriating.

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  38. Doug Amos says:

    Knowledge is power; when you know you can act with confidence. Sundance has taught us enough to know what has to be done; of course it will not be easy; nothing meaningful ever is. It starts and ends with the ballot box in a republic. Forget all other noise and focus on nov. It is fun watching the dumb debates but our goal is just as important as theirs and it is getting rid of the wrong people, finding the right 1’s. Do not worry about party; find the good people; Jim Jordans not Rinos. Do you really think anything is going to change with people like McConnell around? Use CTH to expose them; love it when a poster opens our eyes to another fraud. An honest, capable minority is still better than a Susan Collins, Mitt Romney majority; at least you have only 1 enemy to fight and you know who it is. Continue to trust President Trump and Sundance; they have always been a minority and look what they have accomplished. They are not afraid because they have knowledge and they know how to turn it into power. Again, find the right people and a republic is the best form of government ever conceived by some of the best minds the world has ever known. The world is watching; learn; think; act!!

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  39. Luis says:

    There could never be accountability AND stability in our Republic if we continue to have a two tier justice system. So let me get this straight, Joe Blow goes to jail immediately for stealing a loaf of bread but an aide to the Intelligence committee leaks classified information that can put the whole damn country in jeopardy and gets away with it? SMFH. The fact that they are attempting to “reform” tells me that they still believe we are just sheep!! WAKE THE F UP AMERICA!!!

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    • Doug Amos says:

      This is the age of disinformation; who knew the internet could transport so many lies, so much deceit? Soon, we will all be gone too soon. It is up to us to get this right while we are here; we have that knowledge because of Sundance and others. Used properly, it can give America’s future a chance. Really, it is all we can do. Vote for what you know is true.

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  40. As I wrote here on CTH back on Feb 6:

    Call in Barr, call in Durham, demand to know what is going on, why they are not stopping this NOW. Then fire Barr, and tell Durham he now has a new boss, the President of the United States, and 63 million plus honest citizens behind him, and he has ONE WEEK to announce criminal indictments against everyone (including the entire Obama administration, from the top down) involved in the plot to overthrow the will of those 63 million plus citizens, who elected the new boss. And if Durham hesitates, for more than a few seconds, fire HIM and appoint a new prosecutor, and a whole herd of assistant prosecutors, with the same orders Durham was too weak-minded to obey,
    Because, as I have also been writing, for the past 10 years, it is war: The War of the Insane Left.

    conservative treehouse

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    • I continue to stubbornly have confidence in Barr and Durham and Company, but I will also say that “you have investigated long enough.” Begin dropping the first and most-sure of your criminal indictments. Now is the time.

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  41. Caius Lowell says:

    Tom Fitton is doing God’s work…

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  42. Snellvillebob says:

    There comes a time in every swindle when the victims realize they are being conned. This is that time. Now, how do you vent cold anger?

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  43. No statement could be closer to the truth: if you think – if you assume – that the law of the land does not apply to you and that your position will in fact protect you from consequences, then you will become the world’s worst kind of criminal. And expect to remain so forever.

    That is simply the way of the human animal …

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  44. Marcia says:

    Retired Magistrate here: With regard to Barr; when it becomes more important to save the “institutions” rather than upholding the Constitution and the rule of law, it is time to step down and make room for someone who has the guts to do the job.

    I had hopes for Barr; however, they have disappeared just like justice has for the people who got caught in the “process” crimes.

    Upholding the law, as it is written, as a Judge, Magistrate or Attorney General is a lonely job and you go in knowing that you will not be popular. But you do it anyway for love of the law and country. Unfortunately, Barr may have had that at one time (I said maybe), but no more.

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    • cboldt says:

      I guarantee you that Barr sincerely views his approach as driven by love of law and country.
      He cannot separate the institutions from the law and the country, to him they are merely different views of the same thing.
      If he damages the institution, he is damaging the country. Only so much dirt can be exposed.

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  45. Snellvillebob says:

    If President Trump could find just four honest FBI and DOJ employees or competent outsiders, he could fire Barr and Wray then install them on a temporary basis. When their 3 months are up, replace them with the other set. Rinse and repeat every three months until McConnell gives in. The ones not in office can become the one on duty’s assistant to ensure continuity. This would dissolve McConnell’s control of not allowing a vote for either of these positions without his approval.
    President Trump showed this can be done when he made Matthew Whitaker a temporary Attorney General.

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  46. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    If the DOJ had prosecuted Wolfe for the criminal leaks of classified intelligence, the landscape of an adversarial intelligence apparatus over the past two years would be completely different.

    If Barr had made a PROSECUTIVE finding on obstruction instead of a DECLINATIVE one the landscape over the last year would be completely different too…

    President Pence would be agreeing with Mitch and Barr that FISA should have a clean renewal…
    and would be naming his Coronavirus Czar

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  47. Ploni says:

    I wrote this very idea here three years ago.

    Punishment . . . What a concept!

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    • IGiveUp says:

      how can there be punishment when there is no right and wrong and blame? I’d blame moral relativism but that would probably be racist or something.

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  48. President please Drain The swamp and Deep State coup’s,
    all Those corrupt deep state coup’s throw them in to prison,

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  49. dwg55 says:

    Barr and Durham will put things off long enough so they can say it is too close to the election to do anything.

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