The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

For the past week CTH has been outlining some lengthy research, highlighting key issues to help understand the background of what is evident.  If you’ve followed along, in this outline the individual pieces will all come together.  Bill Barr has a very big problem…

Andrew McCabe cannot be prosecuted in 2020 for the same reason James Wolfe could not be prosecuted in 2018. When we understand why we realize the problem that Michael Flynn now represents to U.S. Attorney Bill Barr.

United States Attorney General Bill Barr was not around in 2017 or 2018 when the DOJ was faced with the issues resulting from an investigation of intelligence leaks and Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) Security Director James Wolfe.

When the prosecution of SSCI Director James Wolfe was being considered, AG Jeff Sessions was recused; the Robert Mueller probe was ongoing; and as a consequence Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and U.S. Attorney for DC Jessie Liu were decision-makers.

I’m not going to repeat all the issues, you can re-read them HERE; however, the baseline is that Wolfe could not be prosecuted without running the risk of collapsing key institutions of the U.S. government. The consequences of a Wolfe prosecution were beyond the capacity of Rod Rosenstein, or the DOJ to handle.  There would have been massive constitutional crises created and the literal definition of ‘sedition‘ was at the center of it.

Accepting the 2018 objectives from Rosenstein; and factually I doubt Jeff Sessions would have made a different decision even if he was not recused; when AG Barr takes the helm in February 2019 he is forced to carry-over those same objectives.

In essence, regardless of Bill Barr’s outlook or opinion of what took place, he had no alternative except to defend the previous decisions.  As a result Barr has no option except to protect Rod Rosenstein.

If former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe was ever to be prosecuted the same issues that surfaced with James Wolfe would surface again.  The actions by DAG Rosenstein in 2017 merged with the objectives of Andrew McCabe at the same time. {SEE HERE}

It can be debated whether Rosenstein collaborated with McCabe purposefully, or whether he was blind to the prior year corrupt activity within the DOJ/FBI and fell into a trap.  It doesn’t really matter what Rosenstein’s 2017 motives were; the facts show Rosensteins’ actions facilitated the goals of McCabe and the corrupt actors within the DOJ/FBI.

Those actions had consequences, very serious consequences, and those consequences are what matters.

There is no way of prosecuting Andrew McCabe without putting Rod Rosenstein into the same crosshairs of consequence. {Go Deep} Rosenstein facilitated the FBI operations being run by Comey, McCabe, Baker, Strzok, Page, Clinesmith, Pientka and eventually culminating in Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissman et al.

When you truly understand this context you also understand why Joseph Pientka III has a blanket protective order over him.  The all-encompassing protective order is as much about preserving and protecting the institution of the DOJ as it is protecting the fulcrum of corrupt activity Supervisory Special Agent One, Joseph Pientka III, represents.

The DOJ had to throw a bag over Pientka or eliminate him.  Thankfully, and not surprisingly, they chose the former and now he’s under protection.

DAG Rosenstein could not prosecute James Wolfe without exposing ‘seditious‘ activity within the U.S. government itself.  Not pretend sedition or theoretical sedition, but an actual pre-planned subversive operation with forethought and malice.

Likewise AG Bill Barr cannot prosecute Andrew McCabe without exposing the same ‘seditious‘ activity; which also encompasses the activity of Rod Rosenstein.  Whether Barr wants to protect Rosenstein is moot; if Barr wants to protect the institutions from sunlight on two years of actual seditious activity, he has to protect Rosenstein.

It’s the underlying activity that cannot be allowed to surface; the institutions of government are not strong enough, nor are they set-up to handle, prosecutions that overlap all three branches of government. [ex. read former questions]

However, that said, now AG Bill Barr is facing a downstream and parallel issue within the prosecution of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.  How can Michael Flynn be sentenced for lying to the FBI when the DOJ is necessarily refusing to prosecute Andrew McCabe (at least what has been made public) for the exact same behavior?

Against this dynamic, the DOJ has two options: (Option A) go even harder at General Flynn using additional charges that are not as comparable to McCabe.  (Option B) find a way to drop the prosecution.

This dynamic is why the McCabe prosecution was not resolved in 2018.  This issue explains why there has been such a delay in the McCabe issue(s) since Bill Barr came into the picture in February 2019.

If Flynn just took the plea, everything would have been easier for the DOJ.  There would have been nothing to compare between the two, and time would have created distance to avoid any real comparison.  But Flynn reversed position and backed away from the plea.

So what do we see?

We see McCabe given an institutionally necessary free pass, and now Barr bringing in another federal prosecutor from St. Louis to reevaluate Flynn’s position.  The two options are again being debated: Crush Flynn on other matters; or drop it.

Take the totality of all these issues together.  Think about them for a while…

…Now do we see why AG Bill Barr needs President Trump to shut up?

Rod Rosenstein essentially protected James Wolfe because he saw no way the institutions of the U.S. government could survive the potential evidence in a trial.  Setting aside opinion on Rosenstein’s enabling of the sedition; enabling underpinning seditious activity; the decision makes sense.  [Consequences too big to jail]

Bill Barr is essentially protecting Andrew McCabe, and as a consequence Rod Rosenstein, out of a similar necessity.  From AG Barr’s perspective, there’s no way the institutions of government could survive the potential evidence at a McCabe trial; and McCabe would call Rosenstein as a defense witness.   [Consequences too big to jail]

At the heart of the matter, in the real activity that took place, there was a multi-branch seditious effort to remove President Donald J Trump.  From the perspective of those charged with the actual administration of justice – there is no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions survive.  What we are witnessing is a dance between increasingly narrowing rails and the DOJ trying to find an exit.

All of this 2020 angst is a downstream consequence of the 2018 decision not to prosecute James Wolfe; and the specific reason why they made that decision.

Those who framed the sedition recognize Bill Barr’s outlook on institutional preservation is an opportunity to weaponize against him. That is why four prosecutors could so easily defy his authority and set Barr up with the Roger Stone sentencing recommendation.

The Lawfare team know Bill Barr is trying to navigate away from exposing seditious  corruption the same Lawfare team helped facilitate.  The Lawfare group know Barr cannot prosecute McCabe; and they know exactly why. The Lawfare group can also see Barr protecting Rosenstein; and again, they know the reason why.

The corrupt crew saw what the DOJ and FBI did when they had the opportunity to expose it all in 2018.  DAG Rosenstein was afraid.

In 2020 AG Barr’s value for the institutions is also why AG Barr is afraid…

The seditious group filled the DOJ fire truck tanks with gasoline, and then they lit the House on fire.  General Flynn is trapped on the roof…. The neighborhood is shouting at fire Chief Barr “put out the fucking fire you idiots“, and wondering why everyone is just watching the House burn. Meanwhile, there’s several firefighters who know what’s in the tanks, and they are standing, smiling, hoses at the ready, cheering-on the angry shouts from the crowd…

Washington Post Article Here

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President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.

The only way I can see out of this mess; the one crack in the current lock box; is the FISA court order for the DOJ to present the identified downstream consequences from fraud upon the court.  The FISC might actually be the ladder truck here.  With the DOJ and FBI currently assembling the investigative consequences, ie. the sequestration material, Flynn’s current legal status might be identified as an outcropping of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.

Let’s hope those on the sequestration mission can return the information prior to the flames reaching the roof…

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1,327 Responses to The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

  1. clown #3 says:

    burn it down…

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    • Rhi says:

      Burn it down …
      “At the heart of the matter, in the real activity that took place, there was a multi-branch seditious effort to remove President Donald J Trump. From the perspective of those charged with the actual administration of justice – there is no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions survive.”

      I think the point is we DON’T WANT those institutions to survive filled with all the traitors currently embedded therein. Either exterminate the vermin and remodel or torch it. The foundation is solid (the Constitution) but the edifice has been infested at an ever expanding rate for generations.

      2 Timothy 3:1 Context

      1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

      Sundance rightfully illustrates the ‘too big to jail’ conundrum in that CAN YOU IMAGINE the Gang of 8 and 3/4ths of Congress on trial, not to mention the ABC agencies, Judicial Branch and large swaths of the Military to name a few other thorny issues? And while these trials are going on and a skeleton crew of patriots are manning the battle stations that some foreign adversary wouldn’t be licking their chops at exploiting the situation?

      Gordian knot indeed. The stench of corruption is reaching the breaking point. Can some compromise/accommodation be reached? Sweep a bit of the corruption under the rug to save the institutions? Are there still enough patriots who pledge their life liberty and sacred honor and believe in ‘give me liberty of give me death’?

      In order for evil to triumph good men must do nothing. Right now it looks as though President Trump and a handful of patriots are standing up against this corrupt deep state, backed by some more than 60 million supporters. And God placed him in this position for such a time as this. I like those odds.

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      • Raptors2020 says:

        Barr may well want to sweep it all under the rug, but our bureaucracies have been packed with fervent revolutionary leftists by Obama and others. These people crave an enormous confrontation they plan to win.

        The truth of the daily life of Barr, and Sessions before him, is that they exist in an atmosphere of incipient rebellion. Their orders are ignored, they are screened off from important information. Meetings over major issues take place, and they are excluded. Remember Ron Johnson’s “secret society”? Where did that blockbuster story go?

        Poor Barr is left trying to “persuade” leftists and Democrat Party activists to stop being so radical.

        In H.G. Wells novel The Time Machine the Eloi were the beautiful people who lived above ground, and the Morlocks lived below ground and ran the machinery of society. The Eloi became dependent on the labor of the Morlocks. Our politicians are the Eloi: they are now dependent on the Morlocks of the bureaucracy. The bureaucratic Morlocks give the orders because they do all the real work.

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        • The “Morlocks and the Eloi” has been an appropriate metaphor for our situation all along. I don’t think it’s quite right to call our politicians the Eloi, though; that name belongs to the idiots (us) who keep voting in scum.

          Maybe, with the politicians properly identified as the Morlocks, we might call the enchiggered bureaucrats the Mole People. (I must have thought of this because Svengoolie had that movie on last night.) The Mole People would be one further level down than the Morlocks (or even “all the way down”, what the heck).

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      • susanphd says:

        man, that’s a great bible quote. Never saw that one before. Very pertinent to today’s society, and in particular, the Flynn & Stone cases.

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    • richard verney says:

      Quite.

      I understand the issue, but I do not understand the problem. Why cannot Barr point out that some of the mebers of the gang of eight went rogue and were corrupt? Rather than undermining the Government, the fact that the Government can hold itslef to account, strengthens the Government, and gives the public confidence in the integrity of the Government.

      The rogue players at the CIA, FBI, DoJ, Mueller team are largely out of the way, so why can’t Barr hold those players to account? Again, cleaning up the stabbles reinforces public confidence.

      Of course, at its head is the Obama administration, and Obama himslef. I can undestand that prosecuting Obama might be a step too far, but everyone else can and should be sacrificed. Not only do they deserve it, it is the only way to restore the US and to stop it being a banana republic.

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  2. Rebierocket says:

    Matthew 7

    9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?

    10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?

    11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

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  3. zorrorides says:

    Not to fight with John (who is admirable and a straight thinker) but I think it can be done without civil war in America. Of course I understand that Barr and many others have strong fear that the whole building would fall and civil war will arise. Either way, the Constitution and American dream is lost, but real war, even if the good guys win, is a horrible thing.

    Then again, this fear might just be delusion because they’d prefer to not be uncomfortable.

    If it came to war, one side has believers and the other side promises to let fighters get rich and rule.

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  4. mptc says:

    Consider it like a staff infection. If you are not aggressive enough in fighting the infection (i.e. removing the infected body parts) the infection returns and the patient dies. Think of the FBI, CIA, NSA and the Justice Department like a staff infection. The NSA was established in 1952; The CIA in 1947; the FBI in 1908 and the Justice Department in 1870. It is time for surgery.

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    • mac says:

      Fiat justicia ruat caelum. If it takes burning the whole damned business to the ground and salting the ashes, so be it. Something better, more honest and stronger will emerge.

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      • Raghn Crow says:

        Indeed, “Let justice be done though the Heavens fall.” But of course, Barr feels a tremendous responsibility to prevent what could be catastrophic in terms of human lives, should a civil war situation. It takes an exceptional individual, a Caesar, a Napoleon, a Constantine the Great, to roll those dice. “Alea iacta est” as Caesar said, quoting from Menander.

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  5. trapper says:

    An excellent piece, Sundance. Sounds like you had one of those moments of clarity today.

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  6. Parrot says:

    The assumed protectors of national Institutions have got away with effectively saying “Can’t prosecute the staff that would threaten the DoJ / FBI “. Nah, Bill, it won’t, not for more than it takes to replace them and do a public apology mentioning the word “corruption” a lot.

    Accepting that Institutional protection means perps go free is simply a false paradigm for the bien pensant…..and destruction of US values, if that minor consideration is a worry for you.

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    • Dutchman says:

      As I see it, Sundance is saying NOT that the prosecutions of McCabe and,Wolfe can’t happen, because they threaten the DOJ/FBI.
      He says such prosecutions threaten to expose a seditious conspiracy that involves ALL 3 BRANCHES of Government.
      Executive; members of the Obama admon, up to Obama, AND career executive branch employees.
      Judicial; the FISA court
      Legislative; Leadership of BOTH parties, in BOTH Houses.

      The evidence Republicans were ‘in on it’ can be seen by their actions, and inactions.
      Paul Ryan trying to derail the investigation by Nunes, with a phoney ethics investigation, and his gifting the gavel to Pelosi.
      McConnells blocking recess appointments, and blocking Ratcliff as DNI. Blocking any appointments that would expose the seditious conspiracy.

      The Republican leadership in Congress are complicit, are countenencing both the ongoing coverup, and ongoing coup attempt.

      And the reason there is all this furor iver PDJT’S tweet, is NOT because it highlights the unfairness of Stones sentence reccomendation.

      It is because it does it by comparing it to WOLFES SENTENCE, and highlights a case they DO NOT WANT highlighted.

      Because Wolfe threatened to subpoena Senators on SSCI, if his case went to trial.
      Why? Because his defence was going to be that he “vas juste vollowink orders”; that Warner TOLD him to leak the Carter Page Fisa warrant.

      Basically, the’leak trap’ caught Sematir Warner.

      And THAT is why all the fuss about PDJT’S TWEETS. And that is why I eant to see him keep tweeting.

      Also, notice the narrative has now changed from Stone vs Wolfe treatment to Flynn vs McCabe?

      They announced the declination decision on McCabe, to distract attention from the WOLFE CASE.

      The WOLFE case, perhaps even more than the Flynn case, threatens to expose the Seditious conspiracy involving ALL 3 BRANCHES of our government, to take down a sitting President.

      I do disagree with their accessment.
      I think our country COULD survive seeing the Chief Justice, Republican and Democratic leadership in both Houses, and many in Executive branch, including top people in State, DOJ/FBI and yes CIA resign.

      And be stronger for it. Prosecutions, sure would love to see them, sure.
      But EXPOSURE, and being totally discredited, would go a long way towards insuring this doesn’t happen, again.
      Pictures in the history books, of men and women hanging from gallows sure wouldn’t hurt, tho.

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      • Raghn Crow says:

        An EXCELLENT recapitulation of SD’s piece, Dutchman. Many thanks. I, too, think the country could survive, but the problem is the Left (Dems, et al) and their ultimate plans. Look at what they’re doing with their grotesque “Sanctuary Cities” and their insane “bail reform” — making the Democrat-controlled areas absolutely lawless, ‘cept for the “Law of the Jungle”. I suspect they’re setting the stage with this chaos because of what they want to unleash, which is to whistle up a police state (make people so scared, they’ll accept a Leftist police state). The Devil Himself knows what they’ve got planned; if we try to “out” their sedition, they’ll strike. Maybe before they’re ready. But they will strike. We can fully expect that.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Its not just the Dems, its the Reps, too.
          Notice how on every major policy issue, the Dems always end up winning, and the Republicans seem to lose?
          You know “Republicans, the party of stupid”. The Republicans are like the boxer, taking a ‘dive’ in the third.

          Read Sundances excellently researched articles on Benghazi; he makes it clear why Congressional hearings could NOT truly establish accountability; because the Gang of 8, including Republicans, and SSCI, again including Republicans, were IN on it, and just as culpable as Hillary and Obummer.

          I surmise its the same with IRS/Tea party, and Fast/Furious. Despite what they SAY, Republicans in Congress want to take away your guns, ( Graham trying for National red letter law) they are fine with abortion on demand, and certainly o.k. wit open borders.

          The only difference between the Dems and the Reps in Congress, is the Dems are honest about their goals.
          The Reps have the SAME goals,…they just aren’t honest about it.

          Put another way, many articles out there saying “there are NO ‘moderate democrats’,…but they are,WRONG.
          There ARE ‘moderate democrats’, they are called REPUBLICANS.Ŕ

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          • Raptors2020 says:

            The true crisis will come when the money runs out, and the bureaucracy must be reduced.

            With a $trillion deficit, that day will be soon.

            Chicago is broke, but their teachers still went on strike for raises last year.

            The bureaucrats regard themselves as the true government (Vindman was aghast that Trump wouldn’t follow his orders). The bureaucrats will simply not accept reductions in their numbers, their compensation or their authority.

            Sooner or later, our “civil war” with the bureaucrats is coming.
            The battle lines are drawn: government workers vote Democrat, private-sector workers vote Republican.

            Northern Virginia is now effectively the duchy, the province of federal bureaucrats. The federal government urgently needs to be decentralized before such territories become hotbeds of actual physical violence.

            Think it can’t happen? Our Yellow Vests may well be mobs of government workers attacking the homes and persons of any politician who displeases them.

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            • john says:

              It’s no coincidence that VA is confiscating guns in one way or another. They know it will be one of the first battlegrounds shoud bad turn to worse. Those bureaucrats are anticipating a conflict.

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            • Dutchman says:

              I don’t know if thats how the battle lines will be drawn,….
              I do know work 10 years for the gov, your student loan debt is ‘forgiven’.
              Heck of a retention bonus, doubt any private sector job gives such a 10 year bonus.

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      • Parrot says:

        Nah, no prosecutions are possible.
        Any prosecution of any minor DoJ / FBI operative opens a can of worms that has unknowable consequences.
        Prosecute one DoJ / FBI, all is revealed in discovery…it never ends for them.
        Never happen.

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      • Mark Smith says:

        We need to define the problem which is widespread corruption at the upper levels of all three branches of government, and sedition by the DOJ, FBI, CIA, and State Department. The President has stated that the sedition can not be allowed to happen again to any President, and no ordinary American currently has any trust in the three letter agencies.
        If Flynn goes to trial. Sidney will use discovery to prove the sedition and entrapment of Flynn by the criminals in the DOJ . If Flynn walks, she will still publicize it in a counter suit to recover damages. Trump should wait until after he is massively re-elected with House and Senate, declassify all documents to prove sedition, rehire Flynn as National Security Adviser, and then clean house, preferably through martial law and military tribunals or changing the trial venue to Utah, where the indicted can actually be convicted. I’m sure that Rudy Giuliani has enough Ukraine evidence to convict many members of Congress from both sides, and any objective prosecution of the Foundation can take out the Clintons. Obama should be made to apologize and retire.
        At this time, Trump can also reorganize the federal government by using RICO statutes, riffing, and decentralizing the departments to the Dakotas, Alabama, and Alaska, cutting the size of government by a third, and completely changing the lobbying system in Washington. This has the added benefit of cutting the cost of the federal government and also the debt, which is another huge crisis that needs attention.
        The country can avoid a second civil war this way, faith in the federal government can be established, and the public will support this dramatic action if both parties suffer. Otherwise I see no way to remove the widespread corruption in Washington and the three letter agencies will always hold the power to control events.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Wow, sounds like you got it all figured out.
          Lets see what happens,..its election season, and I think its a safe bet there will be Oct. surprises on both sides, this ain’t over till its over, and my $ is on PDJT, to win.

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    • Issy says:

      It seems to be a very minor consideration.

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  7. nimrodman says:

    HA!

    Grenell: Trump’s Tweeting ‘Makes My Job So Much Easier’
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/02/15/grenell-trumps-tweeting-makes-my-job-so-much-easier/

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  8. Deplore Able says:

    I wonder if Barr is just setting up a delay in sentencing until after the election. If President Trump wins a second term, he can pardon General Flynn without significant consequences. General Flynn, the man who had to be silenced because he knows where the bodies are buried, will then be free to speak. Obama>Iran>Muslim Brotherhood, etc.

    Perhaps this is wishful thinking on my part. If there is no justice, then perhaps the people will have to take matters into their own hands. That is what happened in 1776. “Whenever any Form of Government shall be destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

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  9. sundance says:

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  10. JG3 says:

    3rd Option

    If they can be fired and the daily work continues to get done, then the government will go on.

    If it’s about having a trial…then, instead

    AG Barr, President, VP, and SecDef call each offender in, one at a time, “make them an offer they can’t refuse.”

    Short of a firing squad/heads on spikes…“Read, sign confession to what they did, serve a full designated jail time , equal probation time, then equal community service time (5+5+5) (10+10+10) (20+20+20+) and on up… You will forfeit all government titles/ income/retirement/ benefits/law licenses/ gain from interviews, book deals concerning this/your security clearance/ability in the future to work in government, etc.

    OR you will be indicted/be incarcerated while having a public trial with the charge of “Attempting to overthrow the/Sedition against the Government of The United State of America!”

    = no trial, no additional cost to taxpayers, no addition trauma to the country, and message sent to anyone else that might contemplate doing something like this.

    For me: Still NOT good enough, but better than letting them skate! …because some men choose to be a “9 to 5 paper-pusher!”

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    • JG3:
      My thinking was similar to yours. I’d call in all of the interested parties with their lawyers in tow and address them first as a group to reveal, without specifying names, what evidence exists, and the likelihood of seeking indictments for said evidence. Then explain the terms of an immunity offer whereby each person will be deposed individually and under oath to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth as they know it. Also inform that the Department could withdraw said immunity offers if, in the Department’s sole discretion, there is evidence of perjury on the basis of these depositions. Then dismiss them with the notification that subpoenas will be arriving soon in the mail.
      Lastly, they must also be told that these depositions will be immediately released to the public and will be a part of the public record.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Form a “roadshow”; With all of the people responsible, that we love to dispise; Hillary, Comey, etc.
      $10 a head to get in, and $100 to throw the ball.
      Its a dunk tank, full of raw sewage.
      WHAT would you pay, to see Hillary go in?
      What would you pay, to THROW THE BALL?
      We could pay off the National debt!

      Perhaps they AUCTION the chance to throw the ball.
      Vindman?

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  11. Genie says:

    Burned houses can be rebuilt if the foundation is strong. The Constitution is our foundation. It is strong enough.

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  12. Vince says:

    “Wolfe could not be prosecuted without running the risk of collapsing key institutions of the U.S. government. The consequences of a Wolfe prosecution were beyond the capacity of Rod Rosenstein, or the DOJ to handle. There would have been massive constitutional crises created and the literal definition of ‘sedition‘ was at the center of it.”

    Barr may have a genuine fear of that, but I do not think there will be a crisis. Even if half of congress, the entire FBI and DOJ are arrested, the government can still function, and citizens will not panic, as long as there is transparency as to what is happening and why. The trials and evidence must be televised and unredacted.

    First of all, We are the world’s oldest government, and Americans have an unbelievably strong normalcy bias. We can coast through most crisis that would destroy another country like an oil tanker running over a rowboat. Congress has been paralyzed since the democrats took the house in 2018 anyway.

    Second, Americans are basically independent of the federal government. What happens in D.C is more like a reality TV show for most people, rather than a critical part of their lives. Congress can’t even get us worked up in a government shutdown. Other than a lot of trials going on taking up TV time, the average citizen will not be inconvenienced.

    Third, Even if the federal government is going through a crisis, we are all citizens of states, territories, and cities with functioning governments not involved with the crisis. Order will be maintained throughout the crisis.

    We can’t fix this by hiding it. No one will change their behavior unless there is exposure and punishment. Let’s get it done.

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    • susanphd says:

      “First of all, We are the world’s oldest government,”

      Huh? Guess some people have never studied Greek or Roman Governments i.e. Before Christ. Or for that matter, a lot of americans have possibly NOT visited Greece or Rome first-hand; to see for themselves: the ancient remnants of their seats of government.

      Reminder, we were founded in 1776. We are not “old” in the big picture of History. If we don’t study and understand the lessons of History, then History is doomed to repeat itself.

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      • James F says:

        Greece has changed government many times. They were part of the Ottoman empire until the early 1800s. Their current constitution was established in 1975. That is 201 years younger than the USA.

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      • Vince says:

        There are many cultures older than us, but we do have the oldest continuous government. China, for instance, is a culture that is thousands of years old. But its government dates back to 1954. The only government older than us, and I didn’t count it because it isn’t really a territory, is the Vatican.

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      • Joemama says:

        Icelandic parliament was formed in 930 AD:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Althing

        It is still around today, situated in downtown Reykjavik.

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  13. Zippy says:

    “The consequences of a Wolfe prosecution were beyond the capacity of Rod Rosenstein, or the DOJ to handle. There would have been massive constitutional crises created and the literal definition of ‘sedition‘ was at the center of it.”

    Ah, so if there’s an act of sedition that would cause a massive constitutional crisis if officially exposed and prosecuted, we can’t enforce the law.

    Got it!

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    • Dutchman says:

      Sounds like “too big to jail”, and I think they are too believing in their own importance and don’t have enough faith in the American people.

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    • Issy says:

      I could almost reconcile their reasoning had it not been for Mueller/Weissman and their aggressive made up prosecutions. Nope, there is no way we can accept the two tier justice of the doj.

      The biggest insult is that it still continues. The coup plotters haven’t stopped pushing Russia, Russia, Russia, and they are reveling in their protected status.

      Meanwhile, Barr says Trump’s tweets are the real problem making it impossible for him to do his job. I guess it would be easier to understand that statement if we understood what he considers his job.

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  14. magoo622 says:

    FFS, put them all in jail! can we organize a public prosecution…isnt that what our 2nd amendment rights are for? Take back our government for those whom have abused their positions.

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  15. Kay Sadeeya says:

    So in the mean time the Democrats and McCabe can think they won as they are saying; “there was no charges, what took them so long?”. And the public will only hear “there was no coup, and Hillary and the rest were victims of a ‘vast right wing conspiracy”‘ and 50% of the low-information voters will continue to vote Democrat.

    Except for one thing; I don’t believe it. I think it’s all going to come out. “you may be sure that your sin will find you out.” Numbers 32:23

    There is coming a reckoning, I believe soon.

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    • ILOT says:

      Biblical or otherwise, I tend to agree. I don’t think they can save the institutions and trade off the Republic. Specifically, IF they ignore the indiscretions in order to save the institutions by very definition the Republic is dead – and Mr. Barr MUST know this. These are mutually exclusive paths and simply CAN’T co-exist. It’s like saying 2 + 1 = 4 and saying “correct”, simply because you need it to be 4. Point being the logic doesn’t work but ALSO because it’s obvious to everyone to whom you have to explain the equation; we know too much! Against the backdrops and the opinion trends (and actions) I see something being done, perhaps not everything given the level of criminality but something. I don’t think they can ignore the indiscretions and NOT expect anarchy. Just a history “buff” and not an expert here, but this appears to be the single most consequential time in all of US history. To think it comes down to 2-3 people choosing to END the Republic is a bit mind boggling and in this vein I tend to agree with Mr. Barr, PDJT should lay back on the tweets. If Mr. Barr is NOT moving in a fair and just direction, then take action and stop ginning up public sentiment via tweets…take action.

      The other factors:
      1. The Flynn case and Ms. Powell, who is seeking justice beyond exoneration.
      2. PDJT himself; it doesn’t appear he is letting this slide – “We caught them all”
      3. I think it was an anonymous Australian official that summarized Mr. Barr and Mr. Durhams visit this way; “it’s almost as if they are looking to do a hatchet job on their own IC”.

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  16. JG3 says:

    Ecclesiastes 1:
    1The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
    2Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
    3What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
    4One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
    5The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
    6The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
    7All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
    KJV

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  17. Jim in TN says:

    Sundance, your information, your analysis and your wisdom are very valuable. And I think this post is no exception. Short of having Barr confirm everything, your description of the pickle Barr is in is the best description I think we will ever get.

    But Barr should not be making these decisions alone. He needs to fully explain the situation to the President. And Barr needs to follow President Trump’s decisions on these matters. If there is one thing I have faith in in this matter is that God put President Trump here to deal with these problems.

    Besides, all the executive power is vested in the President of the United States. An AG is not some independent position, he is the President’s servant, exercising the President’s powers. And, the President is specifically tasked with taking care that the laws are faithfully executed. These matters are the President’s responsibility. And unlike his predecessor, this President will do his best for the country.

    Barr needs less arrogance and more trust and humility in regards to his position and the President. He should not be taking this all on by himself.

    Next, there is a serious flaw in the analysis. Until the arsonists have been stopped, the fires aren’t going to stop. They will only get bigger and more numerous. Even these desperate cover ups are just going to turn into more fuel for their fire.

    I personally think the arsonists want an existing government and country for them to take over. But there are probably some true Anarchists amongst them. And the rest are vile enough, that like the NAZIs, they will burn the country down around them if given the chance when they fail. So care is needed.

    But there is another mistake being made. Lack of trust in our fellow countrymen. Each and every one of us on this site already understand the gist of the problem. We already know much of the details. You have trusted us with all of this information. We are dealing with it. Barr and Trump should trust the country to deal with it too.

    Thank you and prayerfully yours.

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    • JimFromNH says:

      Agree with JIMTN…
      Were supposed to give Barr a pass because he sees himself as compelled to back down?
      Lawfare and the Deep State Dems will ALWAYS play this brinksmanship game from now on.
      The starting position is flawed.
      Besides who understands playing to win better than Trump? Barr shouldn’t be so insensitive to advice.

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    • Scott says:

      Next, there is a serious flaw in the analysis. Until the arsonists have been stopped, the fires aren’t going to stop. They will only get bigger and more numerous. Even these desperate cover ups are just going to turn into more fuel for their fire.”

      I don’t for one minute believe it is a flaw. ComInern is not a national organization and neither is the UN… Some people want to see America and its institutional submit to a higher power….

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  18. Tl Howard says:

    “Next, there is a serious flaw in the analysis. Until the arsonists have been stopped, the fires aren’t going to stop. They will only get bigger and more numerous. Even these desperate cover ups are just going to turn into more fuel for their fire.”

    Well said.

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  19. noswamp says:

    Barr has no clothes. He meant well, but one does not protect a seditious enterprise without exposing himself. His actions reveal he fears the DS and MSM far more than he fears POTUS. Problem is: there are millions of people on POTUS’ SIDE. Barr is a hypocrite who could give a damn about the rule of law. So sad, I guess he will ride off into the sunset when POTUS slaps his horse and makes him ride.

    I am very disappointed in Barr, as most Treepers on here.

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  20. snowshooze says:

    Yes, I understand, but why would Barr care if a hundred cans of worms were opened?
    To heck with that.
    If we’re draining the swamp, we’re draining it dry.

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  21. Jim in TN says:

    One more thing,
    There was absolutely one key position that the coup required be in their hands to make this all happen,
    It would have been very foolish to fail to make sure that the person in that position was not part of the coup.
    And they needed him throughout their incompetent coup.
    They needed him to put in a Special Counsel and to repeatedly expand his authority.
    They needed him to cover up Strzok and Page and all sorts of malfeasance.
    They needed him to save Senator Warner’s ass.
    They needed him to thwart Congressional investigations.
    They needed him to thwart the President from releasing the information Congress asked to be released.
    And he did all of that and more.

    A victim of manipulation would not have done all of that.

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  22. Doug Olson says:

    Not dealing with the problems is telling the people there is no problem. The people know there is a problem so we no longer trust anyone in government or politics except the ones demanding justice. Catch 22. I vote for tribunals as lawyers can’t be trusted not to destroy everything in a public trial. Classify the thing and get on with it.

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  23. snowshooze says:

    I don’t understand why Barr should give a dang about the institutions.

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  24. owtolunch says:

    Sundance has thrown a MOAB onto CTH tonite….—

    Triggered COLD ANGER big time – just read the comments… Time to listen to Bill Whittle again.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/21/bill-whittle-describes-cold-anger-fear-and-justice/

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  25. Scott says:

    Well, this was a cheery little conclusion to an ‘As The World Turns’ soap opera story line. What with China using corporate America and the voracious appetite of Americas for ‘stuff’ to subvert all of our other institutions it is nice to know that even honorable men fold in fear that the rot that is destroying ‘America’ writ large, will, with its exposure, destroy an America to weak to confront the corrupt nature of dishonorable men. This is a fitting prelude to a Bloomberg/Clinton administration. What happened to ‘See something – Say something’.

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    • rrick says:

      Where is the honor in folding to fear? There is no honor in them. There is only dishonor. If they do not resolve themselves with courage, then others who are honorable, and courageous, and responsible and responsive, will take their place. In so doing will strike the match to destroy the palaces created to weak men. So help us God.

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  26. Terra Rayner says:

    Now I have no knowledge on the final facts in all of this….but Potus has had access to everything for over 3 years. He knows the final facts already…they could try and keep it from him but he doesn’t come across as someone who wouldn’t ensure he found out what he wanted to know…when he wanted it. And if I am right then the only way Rod Rosenstein would still be protected, if he was in fact involved, is at Trumps mercy! I will keep my hopes up that Barr doesn’t care who gets tied up in this…as long as he can restore faith and the integrity the American citizens expect from these agencies. And I can’t see Trump just letting them all off the hook after all the lives they’ve destroyed and the cloud they put on his first term. Trump is a counter puncher…and he does it harder!

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  27. Ellipsis says:

    Barr’s inaction is causing the very same reaction he is trying to avoid.

    These people tried to remove the President for ideological reasons. Period. End of story.

    At this point, “protecting these institutions” is tantamount to the sedition they are trying to hide from the public.

    One can only hope that there is a bigger plan in play here. Any exoneration at this point might be applicable to the very limited investigative information released to the public.

    It is extremely difficult to reserve judgment at this point. It has also become extremely difficult to pretend that the smoldering sizzle and smoke emanating from our precious institutions is just a barbecue.

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  28. JG3 says:

    1 Samuel 30:

    4 Then David and the people that were with him lifted up their voice and wept, until they had no more power to weep.
    6 And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his God.
    8 And David inquired at the LORD, saying, Shall I pursue after this troop? shall I overtake them? And he answered him, Pursue: for thou shalt surely overtake them, and without fail recover all.

    We Americans are lifting up our voice and weeping.
    We are distressed. AG Barr has a big problem. Pray AG Barr encourages himself in the LORD our God.
    Pray AG Barr inquires of the Lord, saying, Shall I pursue justice…
    And, pray God answers with encouragement and clear directions.

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  29. inrecordtimes says:

    This leaves the citizens of this Republic only two alternatives: close your eyes and wait for the cleansing force of the light of truth, or re-enact the underlying tale of “Three Days of the Condor.”

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  30. jello333 says:

    I see another possibility of this starting to move in the right direction. I wrote a much longer and more detailed comment in an earlier thread, but the gist is this:

    If the original goal of Barr (and Rosenstein before him), in not pushing for prosecutions etc, was to protect the “institutions” from collapsing, something big has changed since then. At first, such cover-ups might have achieved the goal. HOWEVER that’s no longer the case, it’s too late… now there is so much publicly KNOWN that the “institutions” are in serious danger of collapse already. So now things have reversed: Instead of a cover-up being used to prevent collapse, now it seems to me the only way to prevent that collapse is EXPOSURE.

    If the cover-ups continue, the “institutions” are certain to collapse… but if all the dirt is exposed AND people brought to justice, then there’s a chance that people will slowly regain trust in those “institutions”.

    (By the way, Sundance, that fire metaphor is just brilliant!)

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    • nuwildcat1977 says:

      Jello…well said. If the goal of Barr is to preserve the institutions, then a thorough house cleaning is in order. The institutions will decay further if the American people lose confidence in them. Thanks to Sundance and others, the majority of Americans have been awakened to the criminality of the black hats. As painful as it may be, punishing those who broke laws is the only way to restore confidence in our institutions. AG Barr has a choice: punish those who broke laws or become complicit in their crimes.

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    • Issy says:

      I agree the information is known, but much of it has been known for some time, and the people who know are not in a position to do much about it. Lindsey is holding hearings and that’s good for a laugh. The house and lawfare are preparing more attacks to divert attention.

      Yet, the President is being told by all the guilty parties that his tweets are the problem. I guess they are if no one is to be punished except Trump supporters and McCabe is now portraying himself as a victim. Cover-Ups are really hard. This one is getting really sticky for Barr.

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  31. Parrot says:

    There is no thin red line holding the Admin State’s attack on US society.
    These bureaucratic clerks believe their rule is for our own good…. we just can’t be relied upon to understand that, bitter clinging Deplorables that we are.
    Barr should take his inspiration from the 93rd Foot at Balaclava. It’s amazing what disciplined riflemen can do in the face of a terrifying charge by Heavy Cavalry.

    Unless someone who is there fights ….we await the next impeachment, can’t be more than a month away.

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  32. TANGO268 says:

    The institution that is truly at risk is the Democrat party. They sold their souls, first to LBJ (JFK assassination and coverup), then to WJC (corrupt both in office and post-presidency), and finally to BHO (a disqualified candidate who set this current situation in motion). To the extent that the cancerous Democrat party institution has metastasized to our government bureaucracies, it must be cut out and hit with a strong regimen of chemotherapy. I cannot imagine the pain entailed, which is why it should not wait.

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  33. PMadison says:

    Does anybody know why the investigation of Wolfe was ever allowed to get off the ground?

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  34. fred5678 says:

    I can hardly wait for Nov 4, 2020.

    I have a match.ready, A whole box, actually,

    And a propane blow torch. And a few road flares.

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  35. BigTalkers says:

    “Insanity is Conagious.”

    Joseph Heller, Catch 22

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  36. frank field says:

    Rip the bandages off.
    Expose the wounds.
    Disinfect the wounds.
    Heal the wounds.
    Expose the scars after the healing for all to see and never forget.

    The USA can handle it.

    I’m praying. 🕶

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  37. Anytime you have a story about Barr, just drop in the picture of him with his bagpipes. It really is the only thing he is any good for.

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  38. 🍺Gunny66 says:

    Sessions was actually quite astute. His recusal gave him a pass for doing nothing for his entire tenure.

    Barr however, has set himself up…..you can call it hubris, pride, or just plain stupidity.
    His own DOJ has him now set up to fail.

    We know now……we all know now. Sundance has connected all the dots.
    Ya ever watch Homeland on how Carrie connects the conspiracy.
    I picture Sundance doing the same.

    I believe our President has a plan. A real plan to Clean it up.

    Many have made good suggestions…..excellent suggestions…..We know who they are snd what they did.

    Burn it down

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  39. Kelly says:

    I do understand that to AG Barr
    It is important to save the institutions.
    As I know it though these institutions
    are not mentioned in the constitution
    But sedition is.. our constitution is the
    base our Founding Fathers built our
    country on! Not these institutions !
    These institutions were put in to the
    executive branch to help our President
    to protect We the People by enforcing
    the rules of law. Not to use the tools of
    the law for their personal liking or their
    preferable agendas.

    So maybe AG Barr can broaden his
    goal an look at it looking down from
    the upper tier the Constitution. The actions of sedition that were taken by
    People in senior govt positions were
    like an attempted beheading of our country. They went for our duly elected Commander
    an Chief ! Which We the People will
    never forgive or forget! So stand for
    Your Country first to make what they did
    Wrong right again, and then you will
    be able to rebuild these institutions..

    What was done to our President an
    the people around him is so
    disgusting it has damaged our country so bad from what we have seen,
    trade off deals will by far never
    settle this an restore trust in the
    DOJ or FBI an CIA an the list is
    long down to the state dept..

    And forget about Dems an msm
    They are long gone with even a spec
    of trust!

    I truly pray that AG Barr makes
    what was done wrong to right,
    an be a leader for the justice an
    make these true lies an criminal
    actions that were done to our
    country obsolete even from
    thoughts in the future.

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    • WSB says:

      “As I know it though these institutions
      are not mentioned in the constitution
      But sedition is.. our constitution is the
      base our Founding Fathers built our
      country on! Not these institutions!”

      Thank you, Kelly!

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  40. rrick says:

    So no one can be prosecuted because of a possible ‘constitutional crisis’? What a load of horse shit. BTW: exactly what is a ‘constitutional crisis’?

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  41. Petri Volk says:

    The hidden challenge is about institutional culture. Over time the culture has shifted to one of technocratic power where valid oversight is seen as interference, and a progressive outlook which has encouraged staff to attempt to work around laws and rules to ensure a particular political objective can be met whether or not it is endorsed by the electorate, or in the spirit of the law.

    Thus you have institutions perceiving a rightwing threat and misusing their power and selectively apply the rules to attempt to counter the perceived threat to their norms. It’s a cultural problem because no-one within the institutions stepped up to say this is wrong – this is not what the administrative branches do. Instead the culture has gone rogue. It sees itself at the heart of politics, it leaks, it demands compliance of politicians to technocrats not the other way around.

    The culture is enforced by employment practices – recruiting people with a certain outlook, and promoting those who support that outlook – and then reinforced by demonizing counterviews internally through rules and norms. This is why DC is now 91% Democrat.

    The challenge for Barr (and others) is how to change this without destroying the institution itself. How do you identify and weed out the rogues, while retaining fair actors? How do you rebuild senior teams if you jettison the bad apples? And how do you clean the stables without bringing down the walls?

    I would suggest that firstly you need to expose the bad practice, double standards and dirty dealing. Even if it’s not getting into mainstream media, the last three years has been a steady series of revelations creating scrutiny of the inner workings of departments like never before. The public is watching, and those who are informed, are horrified.

    The second, is the removal of bad apples from the permanent bureaucracy. This is harder than it appears, because if one goes, the others close ranks, and potentially fight back and get as dirty as hell. However, so far the command of the FBI has been taken out. State dept is being unwound. Environment has had its wings clipped. NSC has just been decimated. Changes to the judicial branch have happened and will wend their way through over the next 5-10 years. The DOJ is at last shedding rogue prosecutors. And Congress and Senate have seen change.

    The third will be the eventual need for trials – to set a precedent and example – but this needs to come when the right people are back in charge in the institutions, so they will apply the lesson, not attempt to undermine it. The permanent bureaucracy is no place for political activists. Where, when and who to use as the example cases is an open question. Post impeachment, the public is not just accepting that some prosecutions might happen, but is actually demanding equal justice having a sense of how bad the other side is.

    I have a perception that some players now realize how bad things are for them, and have flipped. The tantalizing question is who will be left to take the fall.

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    • Parrot says:

      There will be no trials beyond maybe a J walker at DoJ.
      This is about root and branch reform of DoJ and FBI….
      Barr is not up to it.

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    • Susan D Harms says:

      our barn had a lot of termite damage — frame, joists, etc. each one was carefully removed (not all at the same time) and replaced with new wood . Of course we killed and treated for termites first. After replacing the structural members we stripped the skin that was damaged and replaced it with new wood, stained it, painted the tin. Now the structure is sound, useable and will last another 30 years (barn is at least 60 yrs old now). That is how you approach it — don’t burn it down but rid it of the “Pests” (terminate with extreme prejudice), then replace the damaged members slowly. ANd then keep the pests out.

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    • Issy says:

      Sounds great and is exactly what should be done, however, I don’t see McCabe in his role of a victim a good first step.

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  42. JJ says:

    The SWAMP so muddy, The muddy Swamp house needs to be cleaned….lets it all burn down.
    Start fresh.

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  43. rororojo says:

    So let me get this straight. This article is encouraging us to have great sympathy for Bagpipes Barr for covering for the seditious criminals who went to unbelievable and demonic lengths to destroy our president along with those who voted for him. Sorry. I am not in the camp of those who have empathy for a man who could bring justice but will not. There are consequences for all actions. That is life. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. This coup is still ongoing. It will never stop AND the criminals are further emboldened by their assurance and Barr’s guarantee that they will NEVER be prosecuted. This article is worried that prosecutions will destroy the governmental institutions? Really? Are you kidding me? They are being destroyed before our very eyes with the acceptance of complete anarchy which exists TODAY. The criminals MUST be prosecuted. F*** the Barr pity party.

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    • nimrodman says:

      “So let me get this straight. This article is encouraging us to have great sympathy for Bagpipes Barr …”

      To my eye, you appear to be reading into this an intent that isn’t there.

      Seems to me this article isn’t “encouraging us to have great sympathy” for anyone.

      The article is simply telling us how it is
      How things are
      In Barr-world

      Barr will make his choices based on his perceptions and biases

      Regardless of whether anyone’s got “sympathy” or not

      Sundance is just telling us what things look like to Barr there in Barr-world

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    • rrick says:

      To say there would be a ‘constitutional crisis’ is to assign to a lesser position than what the brilliance of their letters, correspondence, oratory, papers, even their Constitution suggests. The U.S. Constitution is a product of genius written with even such a ‘crisis’ in mind.

      What we have are weak men made ineffectual for their desire to cover their assets. They are perhaps more clever than the garden criminal yet they are criminal. They have unchained the government Geo. Washington warned about. Ironic to that of how they address one to the other, they have made themselves irrelevant. Yet they have the gall to speak of preemption of prosecution as though they are serious men to be preserved. They have arranged themselves as courtier and king, jury and judge. Arrogantly themselves unimpeachable. That same arrogance has blinded them from the heat and the wrath. Unlike the Founders, these ones ignore the history of empires.

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  44. RAC says:

    Let justice be done though the heavens fall. Anything less is building on running sand.
    Prosecute then sentence all concerned to the fullest extent.
    Then
    In the interests of Conciliation PDJT can pardon everyone, with the proviso that they are stripped of their law licenses, never again allowed to serve in any gov., position, and all fraudulently obtained financial gains confiscated.

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    • RAC says:

      To be clear “fraudulently obtained financial gains” means everything they posses, cash,shares, property, every thing. They walk out of prison with the clothes on their back and that’s it.

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  45. boomerbeth says:

    Who is William P. Barr?

    There’s nothing new about Barr aka Robert Johnson canceling “operations”
    To wit:

    Begin @1hr. 23 min

    Weep….

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  46. Rudy says:

    So you are saying nothing will result from theDurham investigation?!

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  47. maggie0987 says:

    When you rewatch the Devin Nunes Mar/2017,presser outside the White House it is really depressing to think where we are today (or where we are NOT) and how almost THREE years have gone by!
    Mind you, it reinforces what a magnificent president PDJT is?
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?425836-1/president-concerned-transition-team-surveillance

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  48. Maquis says:

    Screw your Institutions.
    Save our Constitution.
    Burn them down.

    Liked by 2 people

  49. Susan D Harms says:

    oh I am sure there were Tories in 1776, saying similarly, we cant attack the institution of King, we cant burn it all down. But we did and here we are better for it. I say let the chips fall. If we don’t, the rot continues.

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