Hubris – Peter Strzok Argues in Court His First Amendment Rights Were Violated…

The FBI official who led the team effort to violate the fourth amendment rights of U.S. person Carter Page via unlawful surveillance, is now claiming his first amendment rights to free speech were violated when the FBI fired him for gross misconduct.

WASHINGTON DC – Former FBI agent Peter Strzok, a onetime member of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe, is claiming the FBI and Justice Department violated his rights of free speech and privacy when firing him for uncovered texts that criticized President Trump. (link)

Our research indicates the lawsuits filed by Peter Strzok & Lisa Page have an undisclosed purpose. It appears both lawsuits are designed to block the DOJ from releasing the unredacted text conversations. The redactions are hiding evidence of FBI motive.

The “direct evidence” for FBI bias the inspector general says he could not find is likely located behind the redactions; the lawsuits help to block sunlight.   However, that said, the complete failure of AG Bill Barr to declassify any of the primary material also highlights an institutional motive cover-up the abuses of power by both agencies.

Almost three years after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein gave special counsel Robert Mueller investigative authority; and almost a year since that investigation was completed; and We The People are still not allowed to see the underlining justification the DOJ used to authorize and continue that investigation.

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247 Responses to Hubris – Peter Strzok Argues in Court His First Amendment Rights Were Violated…

  1. rcogburn says:

    Strozk filed a suit against the FBI for wrongful termination this past summer. I wonder where that one’s at?

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/06/former-fbi-agent-peter-strzok-files-lawsuit-against-doj-and-fbi/comment-page-1/

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    • Dutchman says:

      I think he dropped the suit for wrongful termination, I seem to recall reading that.

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    • swal106 says:

      A complete laughable joke, is it not? The very man that fomented an attempted coup against his own President complaining about HIS RIGHTS being violated? How about the President’s, Papadopoulos’s, and General Flynn’s rights that HE and others close to him violated?

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  2. mudcat46 says:

    Who authorized Strzok to be an agent of both the FBI & the CIA? If he is not a potential double agent for each organization, then he’s at minimum an asset that breaks the territorial-firewall each agency has long had with each other. I’m sure it was Brennan that set Strzok up to wear both CIA and FBI hats. Would not both CIA personnel – and FBI employees as well – find such an arrangement for Strzok – or for anyone – anathema to the integrity of both organizations?

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      This position and its description is posted on the CIA web site. Could be the product of an MOU? How could such position be created in what appears to be direct violation of the Law?

      It certainly not a stretch to believe that Strzok was directing allot more than just Crossfire Hurricane. Eric (CIA), Carter Page (CIA). It would all depend on what hat he was wearing at the time. Just think about how the Gang-Of-Eight gets notified of CIA operations by Law.

      The Chief of CIA’s Counterespionage Group is a senior FBI official who has full access to CIA’s most sensitive counterintelligence data and is thus in a position to fully coordinate the joint efforts of both organizations.

      The Chief of CIA’s Counterespionage Group is assisted by deputies from both the security and operational disciplines at CIA and has at least one FBI Special Agent on the Counterespionage Group staff full-time.

      http://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statements/press-release-archive-1996/pr111896.html

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      • Beau Geste says:

        Excellent question Island:
        “How could such position be created in what appears to be direct violation of the Law?”

        And the person in that position wrongfully merging the legally separate foreign and domestic jurisdictions is a perp in the middle of the fake FISA, and the General Flynn fraudulent entrapment “interview”. inter alia…

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        • Dutchman says:

          I suspect this came about as a result of post 9-11 critisism of “not connecting dots”, because CIA and FBI didn’t “play well together”.

          There was a ‘natural’ tension and resentment between them. CIA resented that FBI could legally work in U.S., where they couldn’t.

          And FBI resented that CIA had access to NSA info, which they did not. So, I suspect the MOU had some quid and quo;
          FBI gets,access to NSA database, AND CIA gets a field office, and agents they can run, INSIDE the USA. Called the FBI Counter-intel division, and headed up by a dual agency agent, with feet in both camps.

          We were better off with the rivalry, the solution is much greater threat than what it was intended to solve.

          Like chemotherapy for a head cold.

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    • Integrity used in the same sentence with fbi and cia is laughable, at best.

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  3. rcogburn says:

    Per the filing, Candace Will, the “deciding official” who reviewed Strozk’s conduct, was protecting Strozk from being fired. Candace Will a Mueller appointee.

    “Deputy Director of the FBI, David Bowdich, overturned the final decision of the duly designated “deciding official,” Office of Professional Responsibility (“OPR”) Assistant Director Candice Will (“AD Will”), who had been meting out punishment at the FBI for over a decade, and who had determined that the FBI’s mission was best served by not firing Strzok.”

    https://www.fbi.gov/about/leadership-and-structure/fbi-executives/will

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    • rcogburn says:

      More detail further in. Will offered him a 60 day suspension and demote him out of the SES, which he accepted, then issued a “final decision.”

      “The authority to discipline Strzok was held by Candice Will, the Assistant Director of the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility. The FBI’s published disciplinary policies call for a standard penalty of a 5-day suspension for a first infraction of its policy. Compl. ¶ 28. Will carefully considered the entire record, determined that a 60-day suspension and demotion of Strzok out of the SES was the appropriate disciplinary action, presented a “Last Chance Agreement” (“LCA”) memorializing those terms to Strzok (which he accepted), and issued a final decision to that effect on August 8, 2018. Compl. ¶¶ 30, 33–36”

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    • rcogburn says:

      One more (sorry it’s not all in a single post). August 8, Will finalized Strozk’s LCA. The next day, August 9, Bowditch over ruled Will and fired Strozk. Suit wants discovery to reveal the “pressure” put on them both (successfully resisted by Will).

      “Mr. Strzok executed and returned the LCA on July 26, 2018, to AD Will’s office, which had stressed to counsel for Mr. Strzok that “in the end, it is [AD Will’s] decision.” SOGI ¶ 59j. When AD Will did not issue her decision within several days, counsel for Mr. Strzok inquired, and was informed that AD Will was still considering whether to move forward with the LCA. Counsel noted that “to the extent that AD Will is considering terminating Pete instead of moving forward with the LCA,” Mr. Strzok requested that AD Will contact Strzok’s character witnesses “and consider what they have to say as mitigation under the Douglas factors.” SOGI ¶ 61e.

      On August 6, 2018, counsel for Mr. Strzok was informed that AD Will was ready to issue her final decision and was asked whether Mr. Strzok wanted her to wait until one of his character witnesses could submit a letter on his behalf. Counsel responded that, if AD Will was ready to move forward pursuant to the terms of the LCA, there was no need to wait for the last character letter, and AD Will proceeded to accept the LCA, extinguishing Strzok’s right to appeal to a DRB and his opportunity to submit additional mitigating evidence under the Douglas factors.

      SOGI ¶ 61f. The next day, without warning, Bowdich reversed AD Will’s decision and informed Strzok that his decision terminating Strzok constituted a final, unappealable, agency action. SOGI ¶ 61h. While discovery will reveal what (ultimately unsuccessful) pressure was brought to bear on AD Will between July 26 and August 8, 2018, DD Bowdich was evidently unable to withstand the same pressure.”

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    • Patricat says:

      Interestingly, I seem to recall TV reports showing Bowditch was FBI spokesperson/commander at the Covina CA Christmas Massacre in which that “mysterious 3rd person seen in the shooters car and apprehended in the woods wearing camo” was just let go, and nothing ever mentioned about him again. Later, he gets the promotion to Wash DC position for his “work”.
      A lot of folks think that stinks like 3 day old fish.

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  4. G Michael says:

    One hateful, anti-American loser.

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  5. pucecatt says:

    Wishful thinking here but what if Strozk has been given the heads up about those text being un-redacted and released to the public ? Could be why he is clamoring to the courts ? He obviously does not want them out for all to see..

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  6. Johnny says:

    I was one of the most hard core supporters of Jeff Sessions up the very end. I refused to look at his inaction in any negative light at all.
    I remember the threats of how good that crow was going to taste after the great day Session was going to lock all of them up right before the 2018 elections. Well look how that turned out!!

    Now we have the exact same arguments all over again, that AG Barr is gonna lock them all up. All I see is nothing so far, but the same ole bullshit of the government trying to keep a lid on how far into the damn socilist and Gestappo toilet we have slid.

    The same arguments being employed again that I used and new ones now, ” Trump can declassify just like AG Barr, so you saying Trump is bad also”.

    Trust the Plan all over again, but this time I am on the other side of the fence.

    Until you have some prison sentences to show from the Water Walking AG Barr. You have no right to tell the doubters to settle down. Have Patience, wait till after the electons, and on and on and on.

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    • ChampagneReady says:

      Don’t lump Barr in the same sentence with Barr. There are only 2 things I can remember Sessions ever doing that was worth a damn–that was lifting the NDA on whistleblower Doug Campbell and firing McCabe just before he was about to get his pension.

      I can rattle off a list of things Barr has done backing Trump and standing at his side. Barr had put John Durham on the frame up investigation TWO MONTHS before we even knew it.

      Barr knows every dirty trick of the DOJ and even the CIA. He’s got to every “i” dotted and “t” crossed with Washington DC being a cesspool of democrats that a jury for a trial would be picked from. That cannot be done carelessly.

      Trust Barr, if for no reason other than FOR WHAT HE HAS ALREADY DONE.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Barr hasn’t done a concrete thing.
        Oh, he transferred Lui! Big deal.
        Stone prosecution has proceeded under Barr.
        Flynn prosecution has proceeded, under Barr.
        IG Horowitz report on FISA delayed, delayed, delayed,…finally released and WHAT,do we find?

        The SAME schitzophrenia between the,BODY of the report, and the conclusions. Just like,when Rosie was running things.

        And speaking of which, gave,Rosie a nice send off, instead of having him dragged off in shackles.

        Wasn’t the Wolfe deal executed on Barrs watch, where they caught him dead to rights in a leak trap, but then prosecuted for lieing to FBI, after he threatened his bosses at SSCI?

        And if he is subject to pressure to pritect Burr/Warner, why wouldn’t he protect those who countenanced the coup, the higher ups who green lighted it; the,G of 7?

        DARN it, just when I tell myself I am out, I get DRAGGED right back in,…
        Like Michael Corleone!

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    • YeahYouRight says:

      I am convinced that Beauregard Sessions was one of the unnamed fbi informants on the campaign, may have even thought he was helping Trump clear his name, but unwittingly became ensnared in the coup plot, and I believe that is why he had to recuse and could not withd6bis recusal.

      Barr is an entirely different situation, and I believe him to have had a handle on all of this before his arrival on the scene. He knows why he’s there.

      Not sure why lawsuits would prohibit IG or US Attorney from viewing unredacted texts. I may be misunderstanding the idea behind the suit here.

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      • ChampagneReady says:

        In every interview Barr gives, if you look close you can see the twinkle in his eye every time he talks about Durham’s investigation. He almost delights in how casually he twists the knife in talking to these Trump haters.

        Barr knows what’s coming lol.

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        • G. Alistar says:

          The two year swamp investigation by SC Mueller was a trap .. LTG Flynn’s prosecution was not designed as a trap but has turned into one. Trapping swamp snakes and alligators is a complex undertaking as they are often very clever (i.e., lawyers) and dangerous and powerful. Swamp creatures also have lots of friends in the democrat isle of Congress, all over the media and you can sometimes find swamp creatures on the Republican side of Congress also. We call them RINOs but they are more aptly named snakes. They all live in the swamp. Trapping them and bringing them to justice is never pleasant but accountability (national survival) demands that they be disposed of like vermin.

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  7. As a man thinkth says:

    Candice Will should be called out and fired for supporting the coup while protecting Strzok…She might as well put her finger in the air and shouted “viva la resistance”…

    BTW…Strzok was put in “time out” in the FBI Human Resource Department for several months prior to being fired…

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    • WES says:

      Thinkth: Actually Strzok had to serve a little “time out” because he mis-approprated, Lisa Page, being government property, for his personal enjoyment, during working hours.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        I bet his final defense is going to be, I followed the directions of Comey, Brennan.and Obama.

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        • James Groome says:

          According to the OVERSTOCK CEO that is EXACTLY what happened…

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        • G. Alistar says:

          Oh…I hope so.would love to see those three in front of a grand jury when all the classified docs are released. Nice to see HRC and Mark Warner, D, Virginia with them.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Defence against WHAT? As far as I am aware, stroxz has yet to be charged with a CRIME!

          However, IF he,WERE to be facing SERIOUS charges, he WOULD flip in a heartbeat, and name names. Which is WHY he hasn’t, and WON’T be charged with any serious charges.

          Despite gleams that people think they see in peoples eyes, AND how they interpret them.

          By the,way, the,earlier post about Sessions as dupe, doesn’t explain him naming Huber. THAT, in retrospect, was an OBVIOUS headfake, to defer/distract criticism that nothing was being done while, in fact, continueing to do nothing.

          Just like Durham. Maybe THATS why some detect a gleam in Barrs eye, whenever he mentions Durham?

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        • Ris_Eruwaedhiel says:

          Comey, Brennan and Obama will point fingers at their underlings and blame them, claiming that they were under control.

          No honor among thieves and seditionists.

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  8. Jus wundrin says:

    Let me guess: there’s a scumbag Lawfare lawya representing and pushing him.

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    • mike dennis says:

      Do you blame them though? They’re simply laughing at Republicans because they know they are immune from any repercussions. He’s certainly entitled to full back pay, apology and possibly a promotion.

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  9. Steve boggs says:

    The best defense is a good offense, but that’s only if you actually have some kind of defense.

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  10. Magabear says:

    Using demonrat logic, we need all those texts between Lisa and Peter in order to determine if that said anything wrong. I’m sure the lawfare group would agree. 😁

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  11. jx says:

    C’mon ticktockers let’s hear it. They all will be indicted in July, trust the plan.

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  12. islandpalmtrees says:

    Something we already know

    Side note: all FISA applications for counterintelligence operations have to be signed by the AG and approved of by the President therefore Obama and Leach approved of the spying on President Trump and his campaign.. And, of course this was done to cover-up the spying, already taking place as revealed by Sundance.

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  13. DaughterofLiberty says:

    I find I don’t linger on that Struck photo at all – when its displayed, I immediately scroll beyond it – the demons within that poor depraved unfortunate appear to be ‘legion’.

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      That Strokeout photo gives me an evil vibe, I say Boze Sacuvaj translates to God protect us.

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    • G. Alistar says:

      Perhaps you underestimate just how depraved humanity can be without being possessed by demons. As the prophet Jeremiah (17:6) wrote over three millennia ago “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” “But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.” The Holy Bible notes and I think little has changed in the human condition … without Christ, without hope and without an eternal destiny with God, mankind not only sins continuously but he loves sinning.

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  14. fangdog says:

    I don’t blame Strzok for doing what he is doing to save himself. Nothing happens to anyone else, so why not go the route he is taking. In fact why not go the route all the crooks, corrupt, traitors are taking. It seems to be working,I haven’t heard a “clink” yet.

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  15. teaforall says:

    Strzok is one COCKY SOB I want to see in solitary confinement for the rest of his rotten life

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    • G. Alistar says:

      Sadly, about 60 million democrats, liberals, media and the resistance in this county don’t have a clue….buying into the ends justify the means logic, they love Strozk, Comey and the rest of the coup plotters. It will take some major prosecutions, public testimony and jail time to cut through their “ostrich head in the sand” attitudes and biases.

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      • Dutchman says:

        G. Alistair
        Appreciate what you are saying, however you are perpetuating a falsehood, albeit unwittingly.
        You say “60 million”, indicating those who are deluded, and I assume like those,who describe PDJT’s support as “65 million”, you are basing that on the 2016 election results.

        That was CANDIDATE DJT’s support, on election night, and (forgetting for the moment any ballot shenanigans) 60 million was Hillary’s.

        At that time, Candidate,Trumps only accomplishment was winning the election.
        We are now almost 3 years later, and he has an 11 page list of “promises made, promises kept”, has turned the economy around from doldrums to more people working than ever before, etc.

        Therefore, while we won’t know the #’s till election night, PRESIDENT DJT’s support is certainly greater than 65 million, and the deluded and deranged is significantly LESS than 60 million.

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    • Somewhere in Dixie says:

      You and me both. Solitary for life.

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  16. mugdiller says:

    Couldn’t help but notice the contrast between Mr. Wilson’s photo and Strzok’s photo in the adjoining article. One a true citizen hero with a gun, the other a pompous (possibly demonic) government employee with a gun.

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  17. Bob McDoulett says:

    To quote HRC, “What difference does it make?”. The scope of national betrayal encompasses so many; the electorate is so ignorant of anything but the conversion table of ounces to grams; and surveillance is Orwellian. I’ve drawn my conclusions. It will be a hard end of this Republic.
    Like F. Scott Fitzgerald or Hemingway we go forth to a future that likely is unfortunate.
    I admire Trump for standing tall, taking blows and making some difference. If only Tolkien could write the novel today.instead of Nazis/orcs it could be progressives, the black shirted antifas and democrats.
    I hope I am so wrong.

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  18. As a man thinkth says:

    Dear super:

    Serious question, How many quarters do you drop into the coke machine until you realize “THERE AINT NO COKE COMIN OUT”…get it?

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  19. Deb says:

    The left have no shame.

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  20. Zydeco says:

    Lawfare is going to turn this around as another “article of impeachment” on POTUS.

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  21. Harvey Lipschitz says:

    Sometimes we can miss the obvious.

    Peter still has many deep state pals that keep him posted. He may have word that a Grand jury indictment with his name on it is drafted. It is so easy to expect his only strategy now it to fire off a lawsuit. Make a move of offense. Peter is not stupid. He is mean and shrewd. Not stupid.

    Think about this. SD sees this as a move to lock up evidence. But this case on it’s own will cause a lot of DISCOVERY which is the last thing the narcissist needs. Discovery will drag out truck loads more of dirt drafted by Peter. If he considers a stupid mistake, what if his case is tossed out and like Avenatti and the Stripper, gets nailed with legal fees.

    If this case is filed by a slip and fall lawyer, it is on a contingency basis and the lawyer wants a chunk of a nuisance settlement to make it go away pre-discovery calendar. Slip and fall lawyer doesn’t care about the impeachment matter issues.

    I need a belly laugh. He was sure he could insure Trump defeat. It hit him that he was been impeached and become a victim of redundancy. President Trump is Grand Marshall of NYSE parade and any and all victory celebrations and Peter is a Board Certified NOBODY.

    Torture.

    Peter is in pain.;

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  22. Republicanvet91 says:

    I am not defending any of the inaction on these rats, but throwing this out.

    I saw a news report from RedState:

    https://www.redstate.com/slee/2019/12/29/lee-smiths-book-russia-collusion-coup-says-insurance-policy-coup-nunes-hopes-will-declassified/

    in which Nunes says, “It has a deeper meaning, it’s more specific than that,” [Nunes] says. “It’s what else they did to get the FISA, to ensure they got the warrant on Page. It’s as bad or worse as using the dossier. It’s another thing they hid as part of a counterintelligence investigation.””

    If these texts describe what that “worse than the dossier” information is, then it explains why they are still holding them.

    This makes me wonder, if Smirk was closely tied to Brennan since he wrote the ICA, then do his texts make that clear? Is there discussion with Brennan concerning their scheme?

    I know Nunes is not happy that this information is not yet released, but it appears from his tone he is willing to wait. I could see them being released if the end result was just nailing Smirk, but if the intention is to also sack up Brennan, then I have no problem with them being held until they are ready to nail him as well.

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  23. Alexander Bocephus Hamilton says:

    When corrupt former Agent Strzok is tried and found guilty of treason, could we please see his smugness burned alive in a cage on the National Mall, right before Comey, Brennan and clapper receive their rewards? A simple hanging or electrocution is just too kind for such a pig. Perhaps it could be done as a pay per view to raise money toward repaying the debt. I would pay $100 to see old dolphin teeth roasted like a marsh mellow, how about you?

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    • $150.00 + I’ll pay my own expenses to and from.

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        I will pay the same $150 USD that would be more in CDN the exchange is a bugger, and my own expenses, hopefully meeting some of my fellow treepers there, having a drink together and saying “Ziveli”

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    • Dutchman says:

      Sorry, but it WON’T be treason, for any of the coupists. Won’t be Sedition, or Conspiracy to commit sedition, either.

      Would LOVE to see them all hang, but legally not happening.

      If there,was the WILL, there ARE things you COULD charge the small group with that, if convicted could add up to life sentences.

      But, first you need the WILL, and so far there is NO objective evidence that Bill has the WILL.

      I am at the point where I would almost prefer a public humiliation, like the old stocks. Maybe they tour the country, Hillary, Bill, Comey, etc.
      Theres a dunk tank, full of raw sewage.
      $100/ticket to get in,….$500 to throw 3 balls?
      Pay off the National debt in 6 months!
      Have the mofos do something beneficial for the country, call it “Community Service”, and a “Diversion program”, lol.

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  24. Sorry … what part of *”gross misconduct”* do you not understand? As in, “fired *with cause?”*

    You were an employee of the United States Government. Like any employee, your “rights to express yourself” are in part constrained by your employment. The FBI had every right to terminate you for what you texted, and to refer to it as “gross” misconduct. (You never have demonstrated that you were the brightest crayon in the box.)

    Meanwhile – no, Sundance, I do not believe that this civil lawsuit will have any effect whatsoever on a criminal matter coincidentally involving the same materials.

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  25. Paula S Daly says:

    How many texts between him and Lisa were there? Thousands… and as Matt Gaetz said, like one every two minutes. Tell us about it Peter, us smelley people at the Walmart!

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  26. Paula S Daly says:

    While working for the FBI this asshole sent thousands of emails about Americans and DJT. If this Jackass gets off of anything, our Justice is, Just…Us!

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  27. hokkoda says:

    What’s hilarious about both of these lawsuits is the utter stupidity of claiming your “rights” were violated when every single IT system, telephone, etc. in the ENTIRE US GOVERNMENT has a warning banner, sticker, label (and you have to sign forms too) stating that use of said system means you have no expectation of privacy, and that all the data contained therein whether it’s your “personal” data or not is the property of the United States Government. Period. That’s literally the opening and closing argument in the cases. They have no expectation of privacy, and I believe all of the forms and banners and stickers and labels and employment agreements (you have to sign for your email account and government-issued cell phone for example) state this explicitly.

    Therefore, under our current system of (in)Justice, these cases will drag out for years as once-again these people prove that there are quite literally two separate sets of rules. One for the people they persecute, one for themselves.

    This lawsuit is the actual reason behind Hillary Clinton’s illicit “private” email server. She needed something that she could claim was not a US Government System so that she would not have to share the data. The problem (that Hillary got away with) is that once you do government business on a “personal” device, all the data and the device itself become government property. Which is why destroying her server was a felony…

    And so it goes. Anyway, if you like to tweet at people, tweet the “Use of the government system constitutes consent to monitoring and the user has no expectation of privacy” statements to Strzok and Page.

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    • Dutchman says:

      hokada,
      The REAL irony is, the ONLY difference between “Government” IT systems, computers, cell phones, etc. and non-government ones (like yours and mine) is that the government ones have the,sticker.

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      • hokkoda says:

        Yep, it’s an absurd lawsuit that fits the absurd times we live in. I wish some patriot at DOJ would just stick them on a thumb drive, walk out, and post everything online. Fill out one of those “whistleblower” forms to blow the whistle on the so-called insurance policy.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Ah, it has to “play out”, and right now its like a play, where I’m not sure we are even at the half way point intermission.

          No point in wishing it to conclude sooner than the playwrite has preordained it to.

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          • hokkoda says:

            The fact that they’re both suing for the same issue at the same time tells you where we’re at on the game clock. Those text messages are seriously damning, and according to Nunes (who has seen the texts) what the FBI was doing was even worse than the fake Russia investigation. The timing of all of this means that Durham has established the means and opportunity, and he is now working to establish motive. That last one is always the toughest because you have to get inside the criminal’s head.

            Which is a lot easier when they write that s&&t down in text message form…

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            • Dutchman says:

              Given was was released, that is NOT redacted, you gotta wonder what WAS redacted.

              Also, given how common it is for people to text and email things that come back to bite, gotta wonder if they were the ONLY ones in the small group, stupid enough to text/email incriminating info.

              Like the idiot teen agers, that video themselves committing crimes, and posting it on U-tube.

              To me, a most interesting dynamic is Nunes change in position, regarding FISA warrants and FISC.

              In my recollection, a couple 4-6 months ago, he was saying they needed to FIX it, NOW he is saying “tear it down, it can’t be fixed”, and that is a major change, in my view.

              Looking at previous re-authorisations, it seems clear there was a “full court press” to PASS it, and with no dissent, or even debate.

              I would say a SECOND test, after the Ghomert test (Did they sing “Oh, Mueller is an honorable guy, his investigation should continue”) is how they talk about the FISC and FISA.

              If they say “the problem was bad/rougue PEOPLE, and we just need to ‘tweek’ the process”, in which case they are swamp, corrupted or compromised.

              If they say “tear it down and salt the earth, there is simply no way to “fix” it”, as Nunes is now saying,…which takes MAJOR cajones, then they may be a white hat.

              Barrs statements, on both Mueller and FISC/FISA speak for themselves, sorry to say.

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              • hokkoda says:

                The Government has enormous power that they’re not going to give up willingly.

                I think it’s a safe bet that addition coup members are in the text messages. We know Clinesmith was also texting similar things to other people not named Strzok or Page. If his texts get definitively linked to them, and others are included, the Durham has a bit of an easier job.

                I would love to be the guy in DOJ who hands Strzok the firms he signed stating that he understood government systems have no expectation of privacy. I’m pretty sure everyone, public and private sector, signs one of those and has for 30+ years. “Is that your signature?”

                Lol

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  28. Chimpy says:

    A few more shooter incidents where the shooter gets a fast bullet in the head from a nearby hero, and we might finally start to see an end to the copy cats that have been acting since Columbine.

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    • Dutchman says:

      The training for the security team was obviously excellent.
      Would be goid to consider training for the CONGREGATIONS, as well.
      Guy had to wait a second to shoot, cause congregants were in his,way.

      IF your gonna train for this,scenario, and IF you have a security team in place, some drills, not unlike fire drills where people learn to “hit the dirt” might be beneficial?

      I also note him saying he was trained not to go for head shot, but had the shot and took it. I know the arguments against, but personally think the training is wrong. Just my opinion.

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  29. Jaco Johnson says:

    LOL!!! is this guy high??? so according to his absurd and idiotic logic, if you plan a murder for hire, “that’s ok,” because you’re just expressing your freedom of speech rights? yeah, nice try, clown!

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  30. Ploni says:

    Sundance . . . my buddy . . . I will do anything . . . Please! . . . not that photo!

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    • Dutchman says:

      Ploni; Do not look away, lol.
      Seriously, we need to face evil, not look away, not believe these are anything less than possesed satans minions.

      As the shooter in Texas said “I killed EVIL” Stroxz is also EVIL. Nancy is EVIL.

      There simply is no other word for it.
      Pictures like this,REMIND us of this difficult to accept truth.

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  31. CM-TX says:

    Interesting…

    “Lisa Page’s mother–Tamara Najarian–is a naturalized American citizen from Iran. How many members of the FBI are secret sympathizers or supporters of the Iranian mullahs? Peter Strzok was raised in Iran. He speaks fluent Farsi. His father is an open supporter of the Iranian mullahs.”

    Additional Comment in thread:
    | “Valerie “Rasputin” Jarrett was also raised in Iran…
    Vindman, BFF of the leaker… err, whistleblower, was born in Ukraine.
    Sondland, another ‘diplomat’ testifying on the Ukraine issue was born in Uruguay.
    Another of shiff’s consultants on that issue, Fiona Hill, was born in England.

    Makes you wonder just what the hell is going on? Just how many “globals” are embedded in Washington DC? |

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/ehu28d/lisa_pages_mothertamara_najarianis_a_naturalized/

    (Conclusion: Enemies of the State?)

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  32. When we discuss what the Inspector General “could not find,” we must remember the curious strictures of his Office. He is a process investigator, not a criminal one, although he has a duty to immediately report (without judging) anything that might be criminal – which he did.

    Horowitz gave us his rich gift “sideways.” He included a treasure-trove of incriminating information, no matter what he then officially was obliged to “say about it.” He put it in his report, thus memorializing it for others who will draw their very-different conclusions. Although Barr and Durham disagreed with some of his decisions – and made it very clear that they are not bound by them, regardless (which is true enough …) – Horowitz did his investigation well. He gave us the information. It’s right there and cannot be denied.

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    • hokkoda says:

      Big Picture, Horowitz concluded that although the investigation was begun properly (the bar is crazy low), the FBI had nothing but exculpatory evidence by the time of the election, and knew the dossier was bunk by December. His big picture conclusion is that the entire investigation should have been shut down, but instead the FBI doctored evidence, withheld evidence, and lied to the FISA Court to keep the investigation running.

      To me, that’s the big takeaway that I use with Libs/Progs I encounter online. Many of them are stuck like religious zealots on the whole “Trump is a Putin agent” lunacy…the Horowitz report demonstrates that the FBI knew even before the election that there was nothing to this making everything that followed subject to the Durham criminal probe.

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  33. Danimal28 says:

    Washington DC is the stain on our society. Period. If you work or live there you are implicated in its grotesqueness. Shame on you.

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  34. Deepupinya says:

    No one is going to jail. No one went to jail for the financial crisis, or other intentional flaunting of the law. Just think of lack of candor. Would that work with your teenager when they are caught doing something stupid? The idea that a DOJ IG would say he had no evidence of bias? What a joke. Most minorities do not trust law enforcement, along with most dems. Now most right leaning people do not trust them. A bunch of dirty cops running around with impunity. Then they have the stones to sue the tax payer? Thank God for the second amendment…

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  35. Pegon Zellschmidt says:

    When the next Democrat president is elected, Strzok will be rewarded, big time.

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  36. Beau Geste says:

    The irony, and hypocrisy of claiming constitutional rights violation, while participating in fake FISA Warrant schemes to deny civil rights, is astounding. If only the DC courts were honest, this would not even be attempted.

    With the DOJ “defending”, it is unlikely that there will be any digging into, and full exposure of strozk’s on-the-job behavior. If only someone illegally spied on (any Republican or journalist in the 2-hop rule) would intervene as a 3rd party, the discovery and trial evidence could be useful to the public and voters.

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