IG Report – Continued, Specific, FISA Date Redactions…

Amid the predictive discussions by those who have followed the three-year background of the potential DOJ & FBI FISA issues, there was one very specific aspect CTH was looking for:  Would the IG report redact the dates of the Carter Page FISA application and renewals?

We got that answer today, and that answer, unfortunately, is yes:

Ask yourself what is the national security value in hiding those dates?  Why does the DOJ need to hide them?   Unfortunately the answer highlights an institutional decision.

On its face the dates seem like an overly granular question; perhaps even a small detail that few would notice.  However, for CTH readers that little detail exposes so much.

In 2018 Main Justice made a very specific decision, a very specific lie, that once told would forever set them on a path – from which there is no return.  It was during a time between July and December 2018 that CTH realized the DOJ had handcuffed themselves to a cover story; and that cover story foretold future conduct.

When Senate Intelligence Committee Vice-Chairman Mark Warner requested a copy of the FISA application back in early spring 2017, the Jeff Sessions’ DOJ produced a copy for review, date stamped by the FISC on March 17th, 2017.  That copy was seeded with a false date of origination.  The reason for the false date was the FBI leak taskforce initiated by Sessions.  The false date was a leak trap.

Investigators provided the FISA application to SSCI Vice-Chairman Warner with a false date and then they looked to see if media reports of that FISA application would surface.  If reports started surfacing, any report that used the false date would be attributable to the application given to the SSCI.  The source of the leak would be identified.

That’s exactly what happened.

♦ On March 17th, 2017, the Senate Intelligence Committee took custody of the FISA application used against Carter Page.   We know the FISA court delivered the read and return Top-Secret Classified application due to the clerk stamp of March 17, 2017.

(Page FISA Application, Link)

The FISA application (original and first renewal) was delivered to Senate Security Director James Wolfe.  Senator Mark Warner entered the basement SCIF shortly after 4:00pm on March 17, 2017, the day it was delivered (texts between Warner and Waldman):

Now, when SSCI Security Officer James Wolfe was indicted (unsealed June ’18), we could see the importance of the March 17th date again:

(Wolfe Indictment Link)

We could tell from the description within the Wolfe indictment FBI investigators are describing the FISA application.  Additionally Wolfe exchanged 82 text messages with his reporter/girlfriend Ali Watkins.  The FISA application is 83 pages with one blank page.

The logical conclusion was that Wolfe text Ali Watkins 82 pictures of the application.

FBI Investigators applied for, and received a search warrant for the phone records of journalist Ali Watkins through November 2017.  Ms. Watkins was notified in February 2018, three months after Wolfe was questioned by FBI investigators in December 2017.

However, despite the overwhelming (public) circumstantial evidence that Wolfe leaked the FISA application, he was never charged with leaking classified information.  Wolfe was only charged with lying three times to federal authorities, and he pled down to one count of lying to the FBI.

CTH made the case in mid 2018 that someone at the DOJ had influenced a decision not to charge Wolfe with the leaking of the FISA application; despite the FBI and DOJ having direct evidence of Wolfe leaking classified information.

The logical reason for the Rosenstein DOJ not to charge Wolfe with the FISA leak was because that charge would ensnare powerful Senators on the powerful committee.  Worse still, in hindsight we now see how that committee was working to aide the purposes and intents of the corrupt DOJ and FBI officials as they built their impeachment agenda.

Remember, the SSCI has intelligence oversight of the DOJ, DOJ-NSD, FBI and all associated counterintelligence operations. Additionally, when the FBI was investigating Wolfe for leaking classified documents, according to their court filings they had to inform the committee of the risk Wolfe represented.  Who did they have to inform?.. Chairman Richard Burr and Vice-Chair Mark Warner.

Think about it.  Both gang-of-eight members (Warner/Burr), who happened -as a consequence of the jaw dropping implications- to be two SSCI members who were warned by the FBI that Wolfe was compromised…. and they, along with Feinstein in 2016, were the co-conspirators who used James Wolfe.  The ramifications cannot be overstated.

Any criminal charges for leaking classified intelligence information against James Wolfe would likely result in a major scandal where the SSCI itself was outlined as participants in the weaponization of government for political intents.  Thus, the perfect alignment of interests for a dropped charge and DC cover-up.  REMEMBER:


If it wasn’t already transparently sketchy, in an act of serendipity and self-preservation, the accused Security Director James Wolfe evidenced the schemes when he threatened to subpoena members of the SSCI as part of his defense. [See Here]

[…] Attorneys for James A. Wolfe sent letters to all 15 senators on the committee, notifying them that their testimony may be sought as part of Mr. Wolfe’s defense, according to two people familiar with the matter.

[…] Mr. Wolfe’s defense lawyers are considering calling the senators as part of the proceedings for a variety of reasons, including as potential character witnesses and to rebut some of the allegations made by the government in the criminal complaint, these people say.  (link)

Immediately after threatening to subpoena the SSCI (July 27, 2018), the DOJ (Rosenstein authorizing) cut a deal with Wolfe and dropped the charges down to a single charge of lying to investigators.  However, someone in the FBI who was doing the investigative legwork wasn’t happy with that decision.

The overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Wolfe leaked the FISA application went from a strong suspicion, to damn certain (after the plea deal) when the DOJ included a sentencing motion in mid-December 2018.

On December 15th, 2018 the DOJ filed a response to the Wolfe defense teams’ own sentencing memo (full pdf), and within the DOJ response they included an exhibit (#13) written by the FBI [redacted] special agent in charge, which specifically says: “because of the known disclosure of classified information, the FISA application”… Thereby admitting, albeit post-plea agreement, that Wolfe did indeed leak the FISA:

(link to document)

Right there, in that FBI Special Agent description is the bombshell admission that James Wolfe leaked the Carter Page FISA application to journalist Ali Watkins at Buzzfeed.

We know the special agent who wrote exhibit #13 in the December filing was Special Agent Brian Dugan, Asst. Special Agent in Charge, Washington Field Office.  The same investigator who originally signed the affidavit in the original indictment against Wolfe.

So with hindsight there was absolutely no doubt that James Wolfe leaked the 83-page Carter Page FISA application on March 17, 2017.  Period.  It’s all documented with circumstantial and direct evidence; including the admissions from the FBI agent in charge.

So, why was SSCI Security Director James Wolfe allowed to plea to a single count of lying to investigators?  Because of the ramifications of Wolfe’s leak being directed by Senator Warner.

The DOJ covered-up the fact that Wolfe leaked the classified FISA application, and from that moment forward the DOJ was forever compromised by that corrupt decision.

During the 2016 and 2017 effort to weaponize the institutions of government against the outside candidacy of Donald Trump, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) was a participating entity. Dianne Feinstein, Richard Burr, Mark Warner, Daniel Jones, and James Wolfe were all participants of varying degrees. {Go Deep}

And it gets worse… because the corrupt small group appears to have leveraged what they knew about this DOJ coverup as recently as two months ago:

[…] The Senate intelligence committee examined the allegations about Downer, Mifsud and Halper, as part of its bipartisan investigation into the intelligence community’s assessment that Russia was responsible for attacking the 2016 election, and found nothing to substantiate any wrongdoing, a committee aide said. (read full article)

Facing a great deal of public pressure, when the DOJ released a public version of the Carter Page FISA application (July 21, 2018) they had to use the same copy sent to the SSCI on March 17th, 2017, or their leak trap would be exposed; and subsequently the Wolfe non-prosecution would be at risk of exposure.  The DOJ had to redact the dates because the leak trap FISA (dates) doesn’t match the original FISA application.

Once the DOJ made the March 17th, 2017, FISC copy the public copy they had to keep the dates redacted. Hence any further release of the FISA court needs to maintain that same date redacted standard.

Once the DOJ allowed James Wolfe to get away with leaking a highly classified FISA application, they committed themselves to always covering-up the fact the DOJ allowed James Wolfe to get away with leaking a classified FISA application.

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344 Responses to IG Report – Continued, Specific, FISA Date Redactions…

  1. evergreen says:

    Someone ask Barr publicly why the dates are remotely important.

    Liked by 14 people

    • albertus magnus says:

      So does PDJT. What of it?

      NO ONE wants to see DeepState drained. No one in power that is.

      Liked by 3 people

      • G. Alistar says:

        I do…and what needs to happen is about 100 million other citizens need to know these details. Outrageous in every aspect! Corrupt and criminal too.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Green Bucket says:

          100 million citizens need to show up at the DOJ and FBI buildings with pitchforks in hand!! If the government will not take care of this, the citizens will be forced to.

          Pretty sure the deep state won’t like it…

          Liked by 3 people

          • jeff montanye says:

            last time i was there was may of 1970 but i’d go again. pitchforks might be more trouble than they are worth. maybe some chants for the sheeple?

            who killed john ashe, shawn lucas, seth rich?
            jail crossfire hurricane and the bitch (possibly too partisan)

            send the small group straight to stir
            mark warner and richard burr

            arrest bill clinton, george bush and barack obama,
            john brennan, dick cheney and chelsea’s momma.

            Liked by 1 person

      • Dutchman says:

        ONE does. One Very Special Genius, who caught them all, and is going to MAKE THEM PAY.
        And, who is far from powerless.

        Liked by 1 person

        • albertus magnus says:

          Sounds good. But since it is his administration that this cover-up is occurring under, he bares some responsibility for whatever action or inaction is taken. We cannot blame Obama for everything that happens during THIS administration. And PDJT only has to declassify the whole thing to expose what is going on.

          Until then, I still maintain that NO ONE IN POWER is focused on draining the swamp. NO ONE.

          Liked by 2 people

          • Dutchman says:

            Yeah, its an old saw, which IMHO seems to ignore reality of the situation.
            So, we agree to disagree.
            “I have a LOT of patience. Thats something about me, most people don’t know.” PDJT

            Liked by 4 people

            • jeff montanye says:

              could be he’s waiting for the audience to really tune in and care. logically the crescendo needs to come in october of next year.

              Liked by 1 person

              • Dutchman says:

                Oh, I’m pretty sure he has several October surprises in his pocket, ready to draw out just before the election.

                Funny, I don’t ever recall a time when it seemed less important WHO the opposition runs.


  2. Seneca the Elder says:

    I don’t know what we would do without Sundance! He certainly does a much better job than Horrorwitz, that’s for sure. I feel blessed that I discovered the Tree House a few years back.
    Thanks to everyone who comes here and shares their information and support.

    God bless Sundance and our President Trump.

    Liked by 45 people

    • Coast says:

      Can you imagine if most of our country was actually informed like we are?

      Liked by 17 people

      • nkmommy says:

        I’m starting to wonder if it’s not better to be blissfully ignorant because to be informed but not see justice is maddening!

        Liked by 5 people

        • spren says:

          I think that is an understatement of how we all feel. It makes me physically ill to see, time after time, these corrupt Democrats waltz away free after committing horrible acts. None of us would ever be granted this forgiveness. It is no wonder that they just keep on doing whatever they want because they have rightfully come to the conclusion that they have complete impunity. They are above the law.

          Liked by 2 people

      • G. Alistar says:

        That why like him or not…Sean Hannity is important. As is other conservative media sources.

        Liked by 1 person

    • Ron Jaeger says:

      Amen !!!! I cannot believe what I have learned on the tree.

      Liked by 10 people

    • luke says:

      Lol that’s why SD can never be allowed in govt; he’s too effective dammit. Seriously these people in DC remind me of that fake village SD used to reference up to the 2016 election. From a distance the houses in the village paint a beautiful little Norman Rockwell scene. But behind the walls there is not much if any structural integrity very much like the lies that prop up our capital city.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Remington says:

      Seneca…..no question. And it comes at a cost. ‘Don’t know about y’all, but my brain is fried. Not sure how many more of these …expose…..I can process. I may have to call it a day and pick it up tomorrow.On

      Don’t know how SD does it…..

      Liked by 2 people

    • ajlfour says:

      👊couldn’t agree more with this. POTUS DJT owes Sundance personal tweet gratitude and a job. Sundance should be Bill Barr’s replacement. I’d settle for Chief of Staff

      Liked by 2 people

      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        Disagree…….There is a solid reasoning behind Sundance keeping his identity secret.

        He learned his lesson well from Breitbart.

        If he divulged his identity they would kill him……or put him in a cell to rot…

        Sundance is doing just fine how he is…..

        Liked by 2 people

        • John Bosley says:

          You got that right Gunny.
          They would do to him what is happening to Assange.
          Black bag him and down the Rabbit hole he goes.

          Pray for SDs safety to our Almighty God.

          Liked by 1 person

  3. Loggerman says:

    With Durham investigating all this, how does Warner get away with it?

    Liked by 12 people

    • WSB says:

      I omly wonder if these have been kept redacted for Durham?

      Liked by 11 people

      • WhiteBoard says:

        grand jury. yep.

        all we can do is inform our friends, and prepare for 2020.
        Trump and his team are out weapon. – and Trump wants this war – its personal.

        i tried to find ali watkins released the fisa warrant date in october- but couldnt find anything. so sessions must have confirmed the evidence in the collection of her devices and records.

        Liked by 2 people

      • doofusdawg says:

        Then again Barr taking on the ic and doj and maybe the previous administration might just be enough. Does he really want to take on the Senate as well. Me thinks they will get the message regardless.

        Liked by 1 person

    • albertus magnus says:

      Uh, because he can and Durham isnt going to do anything about it. Watch and see.


      • honeybee12345 says:

        You are absolutely correct. How much of this disecting must we believe before we get it? They are all swamp creatures. Everyone must cover for everyone else because they are all involved. If one blows the whistle his/her behind gets a punishment worse than death by the rest of these thieving vipers. The AG is protecting the swamp. Period.


        • Dutchman says:

          This Sundance article explains the premise that DOJ can’t charge Wolfe, without charging the SSCI members.

          In an earlier in depth reprise of Benghazi, Sundance makes a similar compelling case, that the Gowdy run investigation of Benghazi couldn’t detirmine accountability, because again Congress was complicit.

          Hence, the Gowdy ‘investigate to exhonerate’ kabuki theater, summed up as “At this point, what difference does it make?!”

          I posit, firstly that is it JUST a coincidence that the same Gowdy chaired committee did the ‘investigate to exhonerate’, for Fast/Furious and IRS/Tea Party? I think not. I think leadership of BOTH parties were complicit in running guns to the,Mexican cartels, and for handicapping the,Tea party by weoponising the IRS.

          And thats why they COULDN’T hold anyone accountable.

          And, this same premise explains Barrs dilemma; he can not hold ANYONE accountable for the coup, without holding EVERYONE accountable.

          Like charging Wolfe with one count of lieing, its barely pissible that some minor charges will be filed,…

          But multiple counts of PERJURY, Obstruction, Misprison of Felony, etc.?
          No, because you can’t charge ONE, without charging ALL, and that includes not only the whole hierarchy of the previous administration, but the leadership of both parties, and both Houses of Congress.

          Hence, Barrs dilemma. Its not just or PRIMARILY all the info that,we already know, its WHERE IT INEVITABLY LEADS.

          I CAUGHT theem. I CAUGHT them ALL!
          PDJT says nice things,about Barr and hopeful things about Durham, but he didn’t tell Rudy “No, don’t bother to go to Ukraine and investigate, DURHAM is on the case!”

          He ALWAYS says nice things about Merkel. Doesn’t means he trusts her as far as he can throw the,Washington monument.

          In the criminal justice system, it is a recognised practice to make a deal with the,’hit man’, to get them to ‘flip’on who PAID them.

          The people who set up, countenanced and ORDERED the coup, are the more aggregious group, than the small group who were “chust vollwink orders!”

          And they ‘work’out of the Capitol Bldg. in DC. And only 1/2 of them are Democrats.

          Liked by 5 people

  4. Ned Zeppelin says:



  5. Buzzsaw says:

    Since justice may not be served, here’s a list of the criminal traitors who deserve bad luck.

    JOHN “DeLay” HUBER
    ANDREW WEISSMANN (Mueller team)
    JAMES COMEY (wrongfully exonerated by Horowitz and the DOJ multiple times)
    ANDREW MCCABE (wrongfully exonerated by Horowitz and the DOJ multiple times)
    ZAINAB AHMAD (Mueller team)
    GREG ANDRES (Mueller team)
    ANDREW GOLDSTEIN (Mueller team)
    MICHAEL DREEBEN (Mueller team)
    LAWRENCE ATKINSON (Mueller team)
    ADAM JED (Mueller team)
    SCOTT MEISLER (Mueller team)
    ELIZABETH PRELOGAR (Mueller team)
    JAMES QUARLES (Mueller team)
    JEANNIE RHEE (Mueller team)
    BRANDON VAN GRACK (Mueller team)
    AARON ZEBLEY (Mueller team)
    AARON ZOLENSKY (Mueller team)

    Liked by 17 people

  6. Lawrence L says:

    Fry them all.

    Liked by 6 people

  7. tacocat43 says:

    This is really difficult to explain to unbelievers. Where do I start? Leftists are celebrating. With the release of the Horowitz report. They think they “won”.

    Liked by 8 people

  8. Coast says:

    Is there anyone that’s not dirty? These people make me sick.

    Liked by 11 people

  9. grlangworth says:

    This was a clear catch of an unforced error they cannot seem to escape.

    Liked by 2 people

  10. hokkoda says:

    So, why would they leave “April” unredacted?


  11. The Boss says:

    I wonder if President Trump included SSCI in his sweeping statement “We’ve caught them all”.

    Liked by 4 people

  12. hawkins6 says:

    sundance is the Sherlock Holmes of political and legal reportage.

    CTH’s precise coverage of the James Wolfe saga and the manipulations of the Warner/Burr SSIC are one of SD’s best “solved cases” but there are many more.

    Liked by 7 people

  13. Well researched and reported by our Sundance – as usual.
    One question – can AG Barr and/or Attorney Durham charge Wolfe for the classified document release? There should be no conflict with his prior conviction for “lack of candor”.

    Liked by 2 people

  14. Sentient says:

    Sundance, brilliant write-up. Best journalist in the country.

    Liked by 8 people

  15. JohnCasper says:

    “On its face the dates seem like an overly granular question; perhaps even a small detail that few would notice. However, for CTH readers that little detail exposes so much.”

    Be careful about reading medical books. Some fine day you’ll die of a misprint.
    – Markus Herz

    Yes, details matter. Even a misplaced decimal point can kill.

    Liked by 6 people

  16. Dekester says:


    Of course PDJT and his team know this, what will they do with this?

    The intrigue grows with each passing day.

    Burr has always appeared to be the most slippery snake, his body language and facial expressions are real tells. PDJT of course read him years ago, one wonders haw he is playing him.

    Thank you Sundance.

    God Bless PDJT

    Liked by 3 people

  17. Boknows says:

    Well doesn’t that s***?

    It leads one to believe that H******* ‘s report is redacted as if he thinks we are f******* stupid.

    He seemed bent on protecting a******s and Deep State leaders such as James *****, Hillary *******, Andrew ******, among others.

    Let’s hope Dur*** blasts their holiday’s to h*** and arrest them with a SW** team breaking their doors in at 4:** am on Christmas ***.

    Is the punishment for treason *******?

    Liked by 14 people

  18. billrla says:

    The United States has graduated to the ranks of the world’s fully mature countries, where knowledge of gross deceit among the governing class is universally understood and accepted as a fact of life. We cannot turn back.

    Liked by 2 people

  19. JohnCasper says:

    Wanted Poster for FBI.

    Liked by 2 people

  20. Niagara Frontier says:

    Does anyone not believe that McConnell and Schumer were in on all of this from the beginning? Burr and Warner certainly wouldn’t engage in such conduct without the expressed knowledge and consent of their leadership. No way!

    We may have caught a whale!

    Liked by 4 people

  21. CNN_sucks says:

    Amazing that even day in a date were TOP SECRET. It only proves that the fbi and doj are participants of the coup and fraud.

    Liked by 3 people

  22. John Hyland says:

    I think this is indicative of the real point behind Graham’s recent comments. It was a clear and open signal to Trump. It’s one thing to burn the CIA, FBI, ans State, it’s quite another thing to burn Senators. It will not be allowed. If Trump doesn’t take half a loaf(acquittal), and forgo a total exposure of the deep and rotten state, the Senate will convict and he will be gone. The ramifications won’t matter because the alternative(exposure) is simply too high a price for the deep state Republicans(Murkowski, Burr, Graham, Corbyn, etc.) to pay. They will give Trump some sort of fig leaf and he will have to go along. Even the 100 million Americans who “have his back” can not save the republic now. Trump has done an amazing job, but it was always beyond saving. I won’t demand that he go over the top against the blistering machine gun fire. American Republic: 1789- 2020.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Dekester says:

      No..PDJT will not do that.

      He has them all, and he ( PDJT) has us all.

      We now know…and more Importantly PDJT and his team know.

      God bless PDJT

      Liked by 3 people

      • John Hyland says:

        Well, I might be having an Eeyore Day, and I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am. FWIW, I, presently and will in the future, consider Trump the greatest President(yep, including Ronaldus Maximus, and Abe), but he has nothing left to prove for me, and I won’t insist on martyrdom.

        “But there’s too many of them, Shane.”

        Liked by 1 person

    • Trumpstumper says:

      Rolling over and peeing on one’s belly is such an endearing trait.


      Liked by 3 people

      • John Hyland says:

        Yeah, it sounds a little defeatist to me, too, but all I’m really saying is I don’t think that the deep state people who have a choice are going to roll over and pee on their bellies. The Senators have votes, and as Sundance has said, there are trillions at stake. I think most of the Republicans know now, if they didn’t before, that it’s Trump’s party, and they will vote to acquit, if possible. Remember, though, trillions at stake. I don’t think they will allow the whole thing to take them down in the process. I’m not giving up. I’m just saying that if Trump lays back a little and takes the acquittal, I’m not going to abandon him because he didn’t hang ’em all…though they damned sure deserve it.


    • mikeyboo says:

      Thanks for the pep talk!

      Liked by 1 person

    • boogywstew says:

      You ever thought of opening up a white flag business? You’re a natural.


    • John Hyland says:

      This post is already long in the tooth, and one shouldn’t beat a dead horse, but I draw your attention to Rush’s rant in his second hour, today(12/10/2019), which makes my point so much better than I did, without making it look like surrender. You can go to Rush’s website and read the transcript…I highly encourage you to do so.


  23. dufrst says:

    Excellent Sundance. And thank you for staying on the prowl and standing for the truth. I know you must have gotten many offers to buy this website (likely to just water it down or even shut it down), but to date, you are still doing the Lord’s work and it has not gone without notice. Lou Dobbs, Mark Levin, Dan Bongino, Rush Limbaugh and many others (Trump?) have come to rely on CTH for critical understanding of this whole sordid affair!

    In the end, I hope your efforts are not in vain and I hope that Durham somehow is chasing down the great leads that you have revealed on the webpage to unravel this whole conspiracy and put people like Comey, McCabe, and Brennan in jail for their attempted coup of the president! Anything less than real accountability, will be a travesty of justice considering all that we already know, base on your research and insights, that has happened! We will truly be living in the final days of this great nation, as the Dems, the media and the Deep state fully implement single party, totalitarian rule in this nation just as it is in China! We need justice! Thank you Sundance!

    Liked by 10 people

  24. Terra Rayner says:

    The Carter page investigations started in April 2016….in the NY field office!!! WEISSMAN !!!

    Liked by 4 people

  25. “In grand style and with your usual thoroughness,” Sundance, you have just pointed out the very reason why (I think …) these dates were redacted from the report: because they are an extremely important bit of Criminal Evidence.

    Kindly notice, however, “the limits to what was, and what was not, redacted!” We know the month and we know the year: the one-and-only thing that we are not shown is the day. This is not accidental. The people who chose to do this knew full well that we would therefore be able to conclude, while at the same time preserving the legal sanctity of future criminal conclusions.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Bradley says:

      Mike, I think you are right. Barr has no allegiance to the Wolfe decision as he was installed after Wolfe made his deal. I still very much like our chances at justice! Especially with President Trump saying what he did today. I wonder what the “one move” was that made the difference! 🙂

      Liked by 3 people

    • Leaving says:


      In what way would this be different if they were protecting the swamp rather than protecting prosecution?

      I suggest that it looks the same either way and no logic can be used with the data we currently have to determine the motive.


      • Bradley says:

        Why did Barr and Durham make these rather extraordinary statements today, breaking with the IG? Again, Barr is not tethered to the Wolfe decision. Why does Trump say that he has caught them all?


      • Honestly, Leaving, we have no choice but to trust them. I don’t think that Bill Barr returned to the post of AG – thus becoming only the second person in American history to have done so – if he was not asked. If he did not want to. As the multi-millionaire former corporate counsel for American Express, he didn’t need the money and he didn’t need the political crap. John Durham the same way – he busted the FBI before.

        I think that we have here people who love the law and love the institutions (CIA and FBI) which they serve or have served, and who want them back.

        Here, for the first time both in America and now in Ukraine (and, other nations), we do not have a President about whom you can laughingly say, “call him up.” We have instead Presidents who have aligned themselves against official corruption (which every citizen knows is utterly rampant in their respective governments), and are actually moving against it.


    • Brian in CA4 says:

      Excellent and very plausable point Mike Robinson…I pray that you are correct.

      Liked by 1 person

  26. Bob Lynch says:

    Bingo. Sundance, you have answered your own question.


  27. Phil aka Felipe says:

    There you have it, as Sidney Powell indicates in her book of the same title, the DOJ/FBI are ‘Licensed To Lie’ … and cover it up.

    Liked by 2 people

  28. Mike says:

    Knock knock.
    -me, “Yes?”
    -“Hello Mike, I’m ‘special agent Shmuk of the FBI.”
    -me, “Am I under arrest?”
    -agent Shmuk, “No.”
    -me, “Then get off my property.”
    -agent Shmuk, “But Mike, you are not a suspect, we want to interview you as a witness.”
    -me, “If that is true, send my Sheriff’s Deputy with your questions. I will cooperate with my Sheriff”s Department. If you do not get off my property, I will call my Sheriff and demand that if you do not leave, you be charged with trespassing.”

    If summoned for Federal jury duty, I would tell the Magistrate, “Unless the FIB has the crime on video, and there are at least three independent NON federal LE agencies that can independently verify that the video has not been fibbed, by FIB, I will not find the defendant guilty of ANYTHING.”

    As retired 29 year LE, I would HOPE that the “justice” department, Horowitz, Chrissy Wray, Barr, etc, might conclude that, CREDIBILITY WISE, they have a BIG F*$KING problem.

    Liked by 6 people

    • James Groome says:

      I will hang any jury I am ever a part of which includes FBI or DOJ related entities…
      the whole bunch is bad if the good ones never speak up…


    • Zephyrbreeze says:

      Can we say that to the FBI if they show up? Legitimately?


  29. Skidroe says:

    Buzzsaw, love the list. Would not only add MSM, Hillary,and Obuma, but add Joe Biden and L. Graham to the list.


  30. juridicus2016 says:

    Sundance, thank you for the granular level of detail that you provide. Your specific references to the original source materials is invaluable. Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that the conspiracy to subvert Justice and remove a duly elected president is so vast that the “powers that be” can never let prosecutions taken place as the defenses that will be employed will expose the entire swamp and lay the corruption bare. Nonetheless, please keep up the fight.


  31. pucecatt says:

    We all knew this was rotten to the core , it’s unfortunate that most Americans have no clue as to what took place within our govt.


  32. Rick says:

    Are you noticing that the as more and more of their corrupt activities go unchallenged, the more agressive they become in their attempts to attack Trump using false accusations? These people will have no fear in dismantling our Constitution, once Trump is out of office. This is a monster in the making!

    Liked by 2 people

  33. Elwood says:

    President Trump has the power to declassify all the information he so chooses and eliminate the confusion caused by all the redactions. He can do this anytime. He could have done it two years ago.

    Liked by 2 people

    • JackB says:

      Yes. Why hasn’t he done it?


      • willyeye says:

        I’m pretty sure he would have been impeached even earlier. I believe Trump and Barr have a grand plan that includes the perfect timing of implementing parts of their plan to their greatest advantage. Important considerations were likely given to things like Trump’s impeachment and certain phases of the 2020 primaries and election.

        Liked by 1 person

  34. Julia Adams says:

    Besides Carter Page, how many Americans have been spied on by the US Government without committing or being charged with a crime? Furthermore, if it’s perfectly fine for federal law enforcement to omit exculpatory information in order to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on an American citizen who hasn’t committed a crime, then tell me who exactly can’t the US Government spy on?

    Liked by 4 people

  35. Hmmm... says:

    Related proof that the FISA was leaked by Wolfe unredacted is that Papadapoulos claims he was approached by ABC and NYTimes with information FROM A FISA that was incriminating against Pap. Pap believed that this was an indication that there was a FISA warrant taken out against him. He was conclusively proven to be mistaken in this view today in the IG report. There was no FISA on Pap.

    However if his story is accurate then this proves almost completely that these media outlets had a full and unredacted copy of the Page FISA. Both Nunes and Gowdy have referenced that Pap was mentioned in the Page FISA. This part of the FISA was redacted in the released version. These reporters (according to his story) also approach him with the info on April 12 2017 (the day after WaPo broke the story about the Page FISA). Putting this together gives a clear picture that the only FISA information about Pap that the reporters could have referenced was from the still redacted parts of the Page FISA. This means that they had a fully unredacted version available to them.

    This would also mean that the media had a version of the FISA that was (at that time) not even available to Gowdy and Nunes. It would also mean that all of those stories they wrote for the next year and a half pretending that they were unaware of the content of the FISA were complete lies.

    Liked by 3 people

    • evergreen says:

      Phone records would fix that.


      • Hmmm... says:

        Sure phone records could and probably did provide crystal clear evidence of what really happened. That and a DOJ/FBI who were interested in exposing the truth would be really nice.

        If there is a clear evidence that the Wolfe case was swept under the rug the more it is exposed the better. Waiting for the DOJ to police itself is a waste of time. We are left with crumbs from their reports that can sometimes be pieced together to form a more accurate picture of what really happened. If the evidence is compelling enough then it might actually force a reaction.

        A widely seen interview with Pap that puts these pieces together could make a difference. How did media reporters know in April 2017 that there was derogatory information on Pap in a FISA application? The only plausible explanation is that they had an unredacted copy of Page’s FISA. That exposes not only corruption in the DOJ (leaks and failure to apply the law to the leaker) but also in the media for their complete failure to cover the FISA story correctly despite having more information available to them than even Nunes or Gowdy. They were writing stories about how Nunes was lying about the dossier being included in the FISA despite having a copy of it and being able to clearly see that he was correct.

        Liked by 3 people

    • lewfarge48 says:

      Do we really know if there was not a PAP FISA, or a Flynn Fisa ???
      I have not studied all the report but I am not sure there were no other FISA warrants – I think there had to be a whole lot more FISA apps / warrants during this time period that are not at all part of this.
      If some one knows, please reply.
      Thanks !


  36. Judith says:

    Ironically, this is just the kind of backfill that speaks
    to *intent.* The DOJ redaction demonstrates guilt, meaning they *know* they should hide something. It’s not accidental.

    And these are the ones who *enforce* our laws? I don’t know how they can reconcile a date redaction.

    Comey stammered through his timeline with Stefanik. He admitted he knew the protocol (to report to others) and then gave his excuse for ignoring said protocol. He said it was due to the “sensitivity” of the matter.

    This excuse also speaks to intent. Comey made a conscious decision to ignore the standard protocol. This was a deliberate act and not just an accidental oversight. So is redacting a key date.

    Liked by 3 people

    • All Too Much says:

      Its as if they are begging people to question those redactions.
      Most of the redactions I have come across, I am into it about 150 pages, are short and
      make some sense, for example specific means/methods/sources, rather than big blocs blacked out. With so few redactions overall, the redacted dates are begging discussion. Its like the redactions are in red rather than black. Does it all come down to the point that all they have left are some flashing red redactions? Sundance nailed it, they are boxed in.


  37. SR says:

    Wray needs to leave and it’s good time now. It seems PTrump not interfering in Barr business. I am hoping some kind of action after Wednesday IG senate briefing.

    Liked by 2 people

  38. Somebody's Gramma says:

    If our vainglorious Senators think they are also above the law…
    If these merchants of power think we will let them off scot free…
    If they try to throw everyone under the bus except themselves…
    Then, maybe this IS the match that lights CW 2.0.
    I want justice and I don’t care how many Senators go under.
    This is perhaps our one chance in a million to clean house for a good long while
    SENATORS – YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. You do not run this joint, WE THE PEOPLE do.

    May God bless Sundance.

    Liked by 2 people

  39. Roni says:

    If Carter Page sues the government, could the redacted info be released during discovery?


  40. Perot Conservative says:

    How many people in the DOJ are aware of this? It possibly started out small, but then had to expand to dozens. Then articles like this.

    Lots of details.

    What purpose did it serve for Warner to leak the FISA application? Make the Trump campaign look bad?

    And how do we know Feinstein was involved? (I don’t doubt it.)

    Everybody is dirty, so everyone covers up?


  41. islandpalmtrees says:

    Carter was nothing more than the excuse to obtain the FISA warrant as we all know to spy on President Trump and his campaign. And, he was put into place by Brennan or Peter Strzok. So why would the SSCI leak his warrant. of all people?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Brian Baker says:

      The Carter Page FISA was the vehicle to get the phony Steele dossier into the investigative and public narrative.

      Liked by 3 people

      • gsonFIT says:

        why 3 renewals?


      • islandpalmtrees says:

        The important part for me is that Carter Page was a plant into President Trump and his campaign in order to get a FISA Warrant on virtually everyone.

        He could have only been placed there by Brennan or Peter Strzok. Peter Strzok was a Double agent for the FBI and CIA. So guess who Eric had to be working with.

        Even crossfire is no longer a mystery since it was being run by Peter Strzok with his CIA hat on.

        Liked by 2 people

      • islandpalmtrees says:

        And, correct me if I am wrong, to gain cover on previous illegal spying done without warrants on President Trump’s campaign.

        Liked by 1 person

        • gsonFIT says:

          You are not wrong. I think Carter Page is the insurance policy. Cant wait to see the FISA Warrant denied in June 2016 that Grassley wants. The reason he doesnt have it is because it is evidence for Durham. He insured Strzok that first FISA denial would be successful the second time.

          Comey is equal parts idiot and criminal, but Brennan and Strzok are evil! Best part is Satan himself sent Brennan – Obama. Not sure O will go down but history will not be kind to his admin.


    • Hmmm... says:

      I think there was a strong belief that they could piss off President Trump enough to cause him to make an error. Obstruction was the goal. It’s funny that the fake news stories about his temper and hot headedness had them convinced he would make an unforced error. They were wrong. The more blatant the abuse they were leaking the more it would have been tempting to do something rash.

      Liked by 2 people

      • FPCHmom says:

        Yes. They kept the fraud going to bait him into an obstruction charge.


      • gsonFIT says:

        He mellowed as this progressed. Also feel like Brennan’s strategy was dynamic via Mueller probe. When is America gonna see what a scam Mueller deal was.


    • Brian in CA4 says:

      ….because they wanted to damage President Trump as part of the coup attempt. ….because they thought they would get away with it. It had worked in the past.
      ….because they didn’t suspect the “leak trap”.

      Liked by 1 person

  42. PapayaSF says:

    Excellent work from Sundance as usual, but I believe differently about Rosenstein. We cannot conclude that his actions re Wolfe mean that Warner, Burr, Feinstein, Jones, or anyone else are necessarily getting away with their crimes. There could well be issues of timing, and of catching more and bigger fish, that would require Rosenstein to let some people seem to get away with something, for a while. I know we’re all impatient, but let’s hear more from Durham and Barr. I think that ultimately we’ll find out Rosenstein was a white hat.


  43. wtd says:

    Ohr still works at DOJ.

    Coup Flashback: Bruce Ohr gets $28k bonus in middle of Russiagate spying on @RealDonaldTrump — and then gets a raise AFTER he is removed for improperly colluding with Clinton spy Christopher Steele. @JudicialWatch’s heavy lifting gets more results: https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-doj-documents-show-bruce-ohr-was-given-a-28000-bonus-during-russiagate-investigation-plus-a-raise/

    Liked by 3 people

  44. Jonesy says:

    So Carter Page should go after and sue Wolfe for civil damages for identifying him illegally in the highly classified FISA and damaging him personally, financially and professionally. Let Wolfe try to prove he didn’t leak it, yet he admitted he did leak it. Sue his arse and let’s see who Wolfe gives up and be forced to give up the date of the stamp. Carter should also sue all media, and the FBI/DOJ as well. Keep Comey and crew in the courts for years and silence them at the same time, bc they wouldn’t be allowed to talk about the trial. The media channels would also be limited with slanted coverage. Carter Page should reclaim his name and reputation. Otherwise, if not, then he was complicit in the FISA abuse.

    Liked by 2 people

    • SR says:

      I have a same feeling he was a part of this operation initially but later not. He is very uncomfortable to talk about him during CIA and how come he land up in trump campaign.


    • Hmmm... says:

      Carter Page has been setting up his lawsuit for almost 2 years. He set up his company in Oklahoma. He constantly brings up the “terror threat” from Oklahoma. He has been prepping for this lawsuit for a while. It makes sense now as he has been laying the groundwork for jurisdiction for his soon to come lawsuit. They’ll fight tooth and nail to move it to DC.

      Liked by 1 person

  45. Magabear says:

    The good news is that Durham and Barr know what those date are.

    Liked by 2 people

  46. dallasdan says:

    “Ask yourself what is the national security value in hiding those dates? Why does the DOJ need to hide them? Unfortunately the answer highlights an institutional decision.”

    IMO, SD continues to get more specific in his subtle exposure of “Bondo” Barr. I anticipate that when the Durham investigation is revealed as further DOJ/FBI damage control, SD will “take off the gloves.”


  47. dufrst says:



    I knew it! Obstruction of justice and abuse of power. Ridiculous! I say they will only be able to pass abuse of power. Obstruction has to do with the Mueller report and that is being torched by this IG report on FISA. No Dem will want to have that on their record, so abuse of power on the Ukraine phone call. This is so transparently partisan and political. It will be a wonder if they actually can pass this, but they will right before Christmas. And that day will be the all-time low in US partisan political history!

    Liked by 1 person

    • dallasdan says:

      The objective has been to put the President on trial for impeachment, to either remove him or smear him for the 2020 election. The House will accomplish its goal, despite the absurdity of it all.

      Liked by 3 people

      • islandpalmtrees says:

        I do believe, this is going to the Senate but the idea that Schiff will not be called by Lindsey Graham just won’t work. The Chief Justice, will allow Schiff to be called.

        I think President Trump is looking forward to the Senate trial. An opportunity, to settle scores with a large group of people.

        Liked by 1 person

        • dallasdan says:

          I agree with the President now looking forward to the impeachment he could not stop. It’s his one opportunity to get the media coverage he needs to expose bad actors and keep from being removed from office.

          However, Roberts will determine what evidence/testimony is admissible, and it now appears the articles of impeachment will exclude the bogus Russia allegations. Hence, I expect Roberts will not allow any of that damning evidence against the Dems/Deep State to be allowed for discussion. I defer to ristvan for confirming or refuting my expectation.


  48. JackB says:

    PDJT’s inactions are truly baffling.

    He has full authority as the ultimate classification authority to declassify any classified document of the executive branch, yet he has chosen to not take direct action but outsourced to Rosenstein first and now Barr.



    • Perot Conservative says:

      This has been mentioned numerous times. If all the info was released, defense lawyers could argue that the jury pools were prejudiced.

      That’s one reason. And why tip your hand?

      Liked by 1 person

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