Bad News/Good News – Bulk Metadata (FISA) Reauthorization Hidden in Short Term CR / Extended to March 15th, 2020…

All Your Data Are Belong To Us…

The House and Senate are doing what the deep state does so well.  Buried in the final pages of a short term Continuing Resolution (CR) to fund government, the controversial bulk metadata (Call Detail Records) within the FISA program, due to expire on December 15th, is being extended to March 15th, 2020.

(pdf link – House)

As we suspected the intelligence community -and most of congress- wants the reauthorization, even if temporary, prior to the release of a critical IG report on FISA abuse.  That said, a short term extension is the best case scenario when we consider the goal of the intelligence apparatus -writ large- was a permanent reauthorization.

The “business records provision”, the “roving wiretap” provision, the “lone wolf” provision, and the more controversial bulk metadata provisions [Call Detail Records (CDR)], parts of the Patriot Act, are going to be revisited *AFTER* the report by IG Horowitz.  The new deadline for terminal expiration will be March 15th, 2020.

FISA Court judges Rosemary Collyer (declassified 2017) and James Boasberg (declassified 2019) both identified issues with the NSA database being exploited for unauthorized reasons.  The sketchy programs, and abuse therein, needs more public attention.


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69 Responses to Bad News/Good News – Bulk Metadata (FISA) Reauthorization Hidden in Short Term CR / Extended to March 15th, 2020…

  1. Elric VIII says:

    Seems like common sense. This needs to be further investigated before Congress gives it the “Okey-Dokey.”

    Liked by 9 people

    • mushroom says:

      BAD, BAD, BAD.
      I doubt PDJT has open FISA warrants out for perps, cause they’re all working against him.
      (And leaks would’ve happened to media)
      This is an opportunity for Deep Staters to continue unlawful searches nonstop through the Senate Impeachment Hearing.

      DC assault on Bill of Rights
      Hmmm…1st nope. 2nd trying for nope. 3rd YES(they don’t like guns). 4th nope(especially here). 5th nope(must be guilty). 6th nope. 7th nope. 8th YES(agree with us) nope(disagree with us). 9th YES(we don’t follow ANY of these silly rights). 10th nope(ALL laws come from us).
      They’ve gotten away with it already after 2 very damaging reports on abuse.

      Stop it until PROPER controls in place.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        PDJT does NOT open FISAs
        Only 3 Officials at the DOJ can authorize them….and one of those is BARR.
        And you can bet your sweet ass that his radar is up.
        In fact Barr has said so…..REPEATEDLY….

        These guys explain this and as a bonus…
        why the Carter Page FISA warrant cabal is so screwed: (1;10:00)

        FISA Warrants are impervious to errors thanks to the “stringent” process that prevents mistakes from occurring.
        The only way they can occur is if you INTEND THEM TO.
        OR…as in the case of Rod Rosenstein….
        You don’t know what the process is.

        “Patel asked Rosenstein to what extent the FISA on Carter Page had been verified.
        ‘I asked him about the Woods file, and he says:
        See The Plot Against the President (Lee Smith) pp 229

        This may be one of the many reasons DEVIN NUNES has concluded:
        “It’s clear that Rosenstein flipped at some point. Whether BARR INITIATED it or Rosenstein offered himself up, he started to become very helpful?
        See The Plot Against the President (Lee Smith) pp 309

        (PS: Thanks Senator Blumenthal for asking the question! )
        (PPS: Also thanks for your “military service” Senator Blumenthal)

        Liked by 4 people

      • dallavise says:

        Not sure they want to keep doing that now that there is a criminal investigation.


        • mushroom says:

          I could’ve misread, but after the first IG report damning 702 unlawful searches, they removed the ability to trace original sources for searches. This is one of the reasons why they continued to abuse systems through 2018 as described in the second report.
          I could be totally wrong, but that’s how I understood it.
          I hope they are monitoring!


  2. Mr Lawson says:

    I see this as a good thing.

    Not a great thing…but a good thing.

    Liked by 3 people

    • jeans2nd says:

      You think losing your Fourth Amendment rights is a good thing?
      How ’bout your First Amendment rights? Or your Second?
      What other rights do you consider it “good” to give up?

      Liked by 6 people

      • Rhoda R says:

        No way that FISA would have been voted down at this juncture. At least now we’ll have the IG results to hammer Congress with when it comes up for a vote in March.

        Liked by 12 people

        • Mr Lawson says:


          Liked by 1 person

        • mr.piddles says:

          “At least now we’ll have the IG results to hammer Congress with when it comes up for a vote in March.”

          It took 15 or so years for Expanded FISA Powers to become a totally corrupt process and tool of Law Enforcement.

          What makes anybody think that cycle won’t repeat over the next 15 years? And 15 years after that? And so on.. and so on.. and so on…

          Those people were granted the power to SUSPEND essentially AT WILL core rights and privileges afforded U.S. citizens by the U.S. Constitution… all facilitated by the “promise” that “strict rules and regulations” would be adhered to. I’m going to go out on a limb and say: I don’t think this deal worked out too well for Us.

          When it comes to “FISA Abuse”, the proverbial toothpaste is out of the proverbial tube, as they say. And there’s no amount of “tweaking” that can put it back in.

          Think about it… Bulk Data Collection (i.e. Big Data) + Google AI Machine = ???

          Liked by 1 person

          • Ray says:

            The IG report previously had plenty of information to stop corruption and not a thing was done. The IG went before congress and played his report down to such a degree that it might as well never have existed.
            Hope springs eternal but things are still proceeding as they always have.


        • dd_sc says:

          Unless another temporary reauthorization is buried in the next CR; de facto permanent authorization.

          Only way to stop it would be the dreaded government shutdown.

          It would be awesome to see Senator Rand Paul filibuster the CR because of this.

          Liked by 1 person

        • Linda K. says:

          Barr absolutely has to prosecute the perps who abused the FISA, because for all its safeguards the FISA can be abused by the people who can authorize one. Comey, Yates, Brennan for. supplying false information,
          If Rosey flipped, he gets to testify against them for a reduced sentence, but he should still do time.


          • Art Hyland says:

            If you read the incredible details in the Strzok vs Barr case included above, you’ll find out that despite the excellent summary of the many nefarious deeds and actions by Strzok, the Swamp merely demotes Strzok and says he should be given another chance because he’s contrite and will never do any of this kind of thing again. Well ok then. The Swamp must be drained, filtered, covered with salt, and buried under rock.


      • JohnCasper says:

        At the rate things are going, we might as real just bury the Constitution.


      • Mr Lawson says:

        dude…you don’t really think I like any of this Patriot Act bullshit do you? Come on, now! I should not have to state ceteris paribus.

        Liked by 2 people

    • sysconfig says:

      I only wish it were a glass half full or a glass half empty. Once Snowden exposed what was going on and Clapper.The Intel community and The Congress simply made things legal and easier and certainly things intel-wise have not gotten better.This is moving this stealthily as they did all the other authorization before it. I believe this comes up in December? the forever delayed IG report comes to light.
      With the so called woods procedure by the FBI shown to be a sham, just like the FISA courts 99 percent approval rate, and the gullibility of FISA judges like Contreras , dubious politically weaponized contractors with perpetual access until randomly caught the it its imperative they be shut down and rebuilt, w/o even a thought of extending it further another day. That’s just my thought..but the multiple abuses are the very reason we are waging this struggle to save Trump and the country now.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Mike says:

        Snowden called it “turnkey tyranny.” We now have the technology to surveil the entire population, a capability that would make Big Brother envious. For Deep State and the political class, the temptation is great to use it with the specious rationalization that it is necessary for security and safety. We are headed towards a brave new world.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Fringe Dweller says:

          The temptation was acted upon the first day it was feasible. The American Stasi exists, and it is far scarier than East Germany’s ever hoped to be.


    • Newhere says:

      I agree. It means they know they can’t renew it permanently before the FISA report comes out. That was not a foregone conclusion, which makes this development a good thing. It at least implies that what the report says actually matters. Maybe not — maybe they just have to go through the motions — but waiting at least maintains the possibility.

      Now, the fact that they’re aiming for PERMANENT ….. that is still a problem.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Rhoda R says:

        Absolutely. Which is why we need that report to begin a concerted and strong push for the total repeal of FISA. And rechallenging the Constitutionality of FISA, in light of the many, many violations and the IC’s inability to resist the temptation of misusing it, might not be a bad idea as well.

        Liked by 1 person

  3. GB Bari says:

    Great follow up research and report, Sundance. TY!
    No surprises here but the timing is almost laughably obvious if it weren’t so otherwise serious of an issue.

    Liked by 13 people

  4. The Boss says:

    I’ll take this as a good thing, even if only for the possibility that the people who write these things FOR Congress know they’re being watched.

    Liked by 2 people

  5. pucecatt says:

    I take this as a good thing , if the FISA report is as devastating as it’s said to be this needs careful consideration in its renewal.

    Liked by 5 people

  6. Rhoda R says:

    I wonder if this will impact when the IG report is released. If they were holding on to it until after the FISA vote then that excuse not to release earlier is gone. No way that they could excuse holding off until after March.

    Liked by 5 people

  7. Whistleblower has been identified

    Liked by 3 people

  8. HidetheDecline says:

    This doesn’t seem bad at all. If the report reveals tons of abuse that needs to be rectified, a December 15 deadline isn’t enough time to do a massive overhaul. A March date seems like the minimum timeframe needed to debate what needs to be done and write up new legislation. This appears to be good thing because it strongly suggests congresscritters recognize that changes are needed.

    Liked by 2 people

  9. Will the IG please come to Jesus before filing his next report ???? The other one bombed.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Inquiring patriotic minds want to know ….Will the next IG report disclose YUGE nuggets of truth that are solid gold along with many needed criminal prosecution referrals….
      referrals that actually get done, or will it blow chunks just like the last time?

      Liked by 1 person

      • 1riot1ranger says:

        Something in between most likely. I just don’t see how it can be an earth shaking report with what we already know and suspect, reading in here. And it has the potential to be a let down for the same reason.


  10. JohnCasper says:

    And some say the Chinese and Iranians spy on their people. Or I suppose I should say serfs.

    Liked by 2 people

  11. Doppler says:

    Without an MSM that cares one iota about the Constitution, we have lived without our privacy 12 or 15 years. Can we get it back? Only if a Willam Pitt shows up with some oratory to inspire the nation and our lawmakers, as Pitt did in Parliament in 1839: “The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail—its roof may shake—the wind may blow through it—the storm may enter—the rain may enter—but the King of England cannot enter!—all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement!”

    Who will step forward? Which one of our elected officials, all of whom, with all of our appointed officials, have sworn an oath to uphold the constitution, will rise with passion and eloquence when it needs defending.

    Liked by 2 people

  12. gda53 says:

    A 3-month extension.

    Who proposed an extension of that length? How was that length of extension agreed to? What was the process and who were the individuals involved?

    3-months should land us smack dab in the middle of the Durham revelations and perp walks. It’s going to take a lot longer to agree to new rules and to fix things (if that is intended) .

    So who gains the greatest advantage when Congress is rocked by the FISA Report + +; and suddenly this thing comes up for renewal? And who dares to vote for renewal at that point?


  13. Maga Jim says:

    Four months should be about right for this administration to use an Executive Order to have every bit of communications by All dems in positions of power communications gleaned for conspiracy and criminal activity. Start with the Clintons, Obozos, and every Senator and Congressperson and follow the Money.



    I say let’s dox these serfs, ch 2 id 3 on 6


  15. BigTalkers says:

    Sounds like good news to me… This extension will allow time to fully digest the ramifications of the IG”s FISA Report, and delay its reauthorization vote into the midst of a major election year.

    The only bad news being the people will likely go along then for promises of some imagined security in return fod some imagined reforms.

    Liked by 1 person

    • mushroom says:

      BAD, BAD, BAD.
      I doubt PDJT has open FISA warrants out for perps, cause they’re all working against him.
      (And leaks would’ve happened to media)
      This is an opportunity for Deep Staters to continue unlawful searches nonstop through the Senate Impeachment Hearing.

      DC assault on Bill of Rights
      Hmmm…1st nope. 2nd trying for nope. 3rd YES(they don’t like guns). 4th nope(especially here). 5th nope(must be guilty). 6th nope. 7th nope. 8th YES(agree with us) nope(disagree with us). 9th YES(we don’t follow ANY of these silly rights). 10th nope(ALL laws come from us).
      They’ve gotten away with it already after 2 very damaging reports on abuse.

      Let WE THE PEOPLE spy on the Deep State until March 2020!!!

      Then, stop it until PROPER controls in place.


  16. Jay Currie says:

    Good news in that there was no permanent re-authorization. Now we see what the IG says. If damning there is the chance to actually fix or remove authorization.

    Liked by 1 person

  17. trapper says:

    They will not stop collecting information. All we can hope for is some means of oversight that minimizes the chance of abuse. Clearly the FISC procedures never worked at all, and no outside contractors should be doing data searches. Somehow, there should be court review not just of the requests for searches, but also of the search words and the results after they have been conducted. Basically, the whole methodology must be rethought and redone. And there should be severe prison penalties specified for abuse that also applies to the judges if they permit abuse.

    Liked by 4 people

    • 1riot1ranger says:

      To me, that’s the problem. What are you going to arrest people, for? Violation of “Woods Protocols?” They need strict criminal laws on access. Maybe they already have it, and I am just not knowledgeable enough, but why would they need Woods Protocols if they already had such laws?


  18. mr.piddles says:

    “the ‘lone wolf’ provision”

    Does that cover the part where Tamerlan Tsarnaev murders three people, was the subject of a MS State Police investigation, was known to the FBI, was on terrorist watch lists, was specifically warned about by Russian Intelligence… and blew up 270 people anyway?

    “The FBI denies that Tamerlan was their informant, but to this day those questions have not been answered. What is the bureau trying to hide?”

    Indeed. What is the bureau trying to hide, Michele McPhee?

    “Tamerlan did not become a citizen on that October day, though the DHS will not say whether he attended. What is clear, however, is that in the weeks after that scheduled appearance, the FBI continued to email immigration officials, prodding them to approve Tamerlan’s citizenship application, according to the Office of the Inspector General’s report. Janet Napolitano, though, would not stick around to answer questions. She quit her job at the DHS months after the Boston Marathon bombings, right around the same time FBI Director Robert Mueller retired, as did the Boston FBI special agent in charge, Richard DesLauriers.”

    Hmph. There’s that name again. *shrug emoji*

    On the bright side: who’s up for some good ol’ fashioned Surveillance State?

    Liked by 2 people

  19. jello333 says:

    I’ll take the “bad” part of this bad/good news anyday. Yeah, were it not for this relatively short extension, we’d be looking at one of two scenarios. Either quickly make this slimy thing permanent, or else let it meet its long-overdue demise. I think it’s pretty obvious which of the two would have happened. But now, with the delay? Yeah, there’ll be a LOT of things going down between now and the middle of March, so I suspect support (and LACK of support) will see some pretty dramatic changes.

    Liked by 5 people

  20. BitterC says:

    Shoring up the processes all around data collection and retrieval should have been a priority for both Congressional Intel Committees after the Collyer opinion came out.

    Pretty sure that was the impetus for creating intel committees after Nixon

    A shame they’ve spent all their time on Russian Hoax & now the impeachment.

    They are going to have to make abuses of the data collection felonies or this will happen again.

    Liked by 1 person

    • 1riot1ranger says:

      That’s why I have doubts as to the OIG Report’s impact. They have “Woods Protocols.” So he will say Woods Protocols were not followed. Is that a crime? Anybody can use the muh Russia excuse for pretty much anything.


  21. Daniel says:

    Let’s direct our concerns at Trump for this. We all know what to expect of the swamp. While it is bad news, I’m willing to bet not a single reader here is shocked in the least.

    Trump’s lack of talking about FISA abuse and how it is connected to the NSA program has never been called out to the American people and thus has kept this matter away from the public discussion. There may be reasons for that but we don’t know what those reasons may be. We just know that he hasn’t even approached the idea that the NSA is huge violation of constitutional limits on government power.

    And please don’t think I’m not a supporter of the president. I am a donating and vocal supporter. I just think the FISC/FISA and NSA matter needs to be dealt with ASAP.

    My only hope is that the data is being used to take down our enemies both foreign and especially domestic. If it’s useful in taking them down, I’m okay to suffer it a while longer.

    Liked by 2 people

  22. The Collyer Report is now 2 1/2 years old. A broad rebuke on a grave issue with zero follow-up. Or is Chief Justice Roberts waiting for the Horowitz Report too? Wonder what the NSA has told him his position is.


  23. TwoLaine says:

    It is what they said they would do over the weekend. A short term CR. Why fox a problem when you can punt it to someone else?! It is the only thing they do well. Punt.


  24. In the Land of Poz says:

    Key word “Giuliani”. Continued FISA monitoring of Trump associates on FARA pretext, to generate more fodder for the impeachment committees and MSM to churn.

    Liked by 1 person

  25. Devil in the Blue Drapes says:

    Gee, if only there existed, a US citizen with standing, would file suit against the govt, and if only one activist judge would issue a nationwide injunction…..

    calling Sidney Powell on behalf of Michael Flynn. Ms. Powell pls pick up the white courtesy phone, your country needs you.

    Liked by 2 people

  26. deplorable says:

    Do all of our elected officials deeply fear being ruined by the intelligence agencies (FBI, NSA, CIA, …) if they stand up against this violation of Americans fourth amendment rights?

    Even Chuck Schumer openly admitted it:

    Intelligence Agencies “Have Six Ways From Sunday Of Getting Back At You”

    Think of it … Congress fears the intelligence agencies.

    Liked by 2 people

  27. Actually, I don’t object to re-authorization for a few months’ time, because it’s not going to be an instantaneous process to properly review FISA (and PATRIOT) in light of the abuses that we now know both laws either enabled, and/or failed to protect against. We can’t realistically read 500 pages, then convene public hearings and collect public comment, and create new legislation, before December 15th. But, neither should we renew broken laws “permanently.”

    We have broken laws here, and they are both vitally important ones and, intrinsically, extremely dangerous ones. (FISA was first put on the books in 1978, when digital computers were toys and digital communications networks almost non-existent. ARPANET didn’t adopt TCP/IP until 1983 …) They haven’t kept up with the times, and the necessary access-controls are obviously non-functional. Two(!) Judges and a cyber security expert, the former Director of NSA, have both said so. Horowitz says so. Congress can’t rubber-stamp this with a “Forever stamp” as some had wished. This must be re-done properly, and this will take time.

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  28. grumpyqs says:

    Surely the DeepState will not become vindictive, abolish FISC, declare the NSA data center and contents “salvage” and sell it to someone, like Google, FaceBook, or Aswan Bros? How would we know?


  29. MLK says:

    “Good News/Bad News”

    My previous comments have repeatedly conflated seemingly unrelated issues that in my view were the subject of the highest of high stakes horse-trading behind the curtain — Impeachment; Government Funding; USMCA; Horowitz/Barr/Durham; and FISA Renewal.

    USMCA: For months Pelosi has been under immense pressure to pass USMCA. Yet she had held it back as a chip in broader negotiations. She recently referred to it as USMCA not “NAFTA 2.0,” and that she thought it could be passed by the end of the year. She also said more than once that “Intelligence and appropriations are my wheelhouse,” while oddly challenging a reporter who referred first to the White House and then the POTUS in the negotiations over funding the government. Pelosi insisted on “let’s just refer to the administration.”

    I took all of that as her opening this phase of the negotiations by proffering, in effect, that Trump gets his USMCA and is supposed to leave Appropriations to others.

    On Impeachment, we had Bill Clinton (on audio) saying in so many words that Trump should accept the inevitability of impeachment. Obama (also on audio, not video), while seemingly talking about the 2020 Democrats, used the word “resistance” (in a backwards fashion) and warned that Democrats not get ahead of the American electorate.

    Not to put too fine a point on it but the Democrats have been going for a Nixon (resignation in the face of certain impeachment/conviction) while mindful they would have to settle for a Clinton (impeachment/no conviction). Since the spectacular crash and burn of the Mueller gambit, they’ve had to contend with being forced to accept another outcome — no impeachment, thus no conviction and removal, and thus no resignation.

    Therefore, a continuing resolution — meaning kicking the can on government funding and FISA renewal until March — takes those two off the table until March. I consider that a huge win. It projects USMCA passage by the end of the year and passage of a continuing resolution with no wall funding as a sop for Pelosi.

    While some here jumped down my throat for arguing that the delay in release of Horowitz’s report was a good, not bad, development, I stand by that reasoning.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Ray says:

      I think your reasoning is the reasoning of a desired outcome.It’s possible. But. Going by the past threee years it seems quite remote.
      POTUS has been isolated by people who knew the in’s and outs of the political system and the administrative system. On the opposing side POTUS can have many little wins that are meaningless by the time media spins it, deceitful editing and or angle and silence when necessary.


  30. Racer99 says:

    My problem with the present fisa and 702 process is that it can be replaced with a less intrusive program using profiling. The idiotic PC restraint on proper cultural and country of origin profiling was the excuse they used to “make it fair ” by including everyone in the data collection. A proper effort using profiling would be cheaper and far less open to abuse.


  31. willthesuevi says:

    BTW – Sundance. Awesome play with the “All your Data Belong to Us”.

    Still chuckling. Not a whole lot to chuckle about these days so I will take it. Good one.


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