Senator Ron Johnson Outlines Concerns With Lt. Col. Vindman Running Rogue Policy Group Against President Trump…

Senator Ron Johnson, in a letter to Devin Nunes, has provided a lengthy outline of his contacts, discussions and perspectives surrounding U.S-Ukraine foreign policy as it relates to the current democrat impeachment narrative. [Cloud Link to Johnson letter]

Senator Johnson, attended the inauguration of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky along with Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), and shared his concerns that National Security Council official Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was running a rogue and independent foreign policy toward Ukraine expressly against the intents of President Trump.

CTH readers will note we identify Vindman as a very sketchy character within the entire construct of the impeachment fiasco.  It is virtually certain Vindman is the primary source for the CIA ‘whistleblower’ dossier (complaint).  Beyond the rogue Vindman foreign policy, there is an even more sketchy affiliated network that surround him. First, here’s the letter:

Lt. Col Alexander Vindman is likely a central character within the entire impeachment hoax.  As Diana West points out, his connective tissue to the U.S. intelligence apparatus and their rogue efforts to remove President Trump cannot be ignored:

[…] The questions begin with Vindman’s activities as a staffer on the president’s National Security Council. Alarming reports indicate Vindman served as a source for the Ukrainian government inside the White House. This news may be padded by his protectors and muted by our general ignorance of the intelligence wars waged against this country, typically masterminded by the Kremlin, but it’s nonetheless deeply concerning.

Further, given the sophisticated penetration talents of the Russian intelligence services, it’s the height of foolhardiness to assume that Vindman’s Ukrainian connections end in Kyiv.

[…] We need more information about Vindman, his relationship to the Ukrainian government, and whatever “advice” he may have offered it, whether “typically communicated” in English or any other language. That’s because, if The New York Times is accurate, Vindman’s loyalties are divided between two governments. At a minimum, this disqualifies Vindman from serving the American people in the sensitive field of national security ever again.  (read more)

Over time it has become clear the first confidential human source for the CIA Ukraine dossier, written by CIA analyst Eric Ciaramella and also known as the “Whistleblower report”, is Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman a Ukraine expert inside the National Security Council on assignment from the Dept of Defense intelligence unit.

Within his deposition the ideology of Lt. Col Vindman is clear. Vindman’s mission focus was/is to shape U.S. policy toward Ukraine (and by extension NATO) regardless of the actual policy view of President Trump.  Within his deposition Vindman admitted to giving countermanding instructions to his Ukraine counterpart two weeks after understanding opposite policy objectives from his commander-in-chief.

During his deposition Lt Col Vindman also admitted -with considerable angst and attempts to deflect from his legal advisors provided by the Dept. of Defense- that he was intentionally usurping the chain of command in an effort to follow his own ideological agenda; and perhaps that of his DoD leadership.

By itself that level of admitted and direct insubordination should be alarming for many reasons; not the least of which is his lineage within the U.S. Military.  Indeed Vindman’s intent and purpose explains why he appeared for his deposition in full military uniform.

When we consider that Lt. Col. Vindman was carrying out what he believed to be his role; and when you overlay his military purpose; and when we accept Vindman was assisting CIA agent Eric Ciaramella in constructing his dossier to remove President Trump; and when we stand back and look at the aggregate interests involved, including Vindman’s divided loyalties toward a foreign power; and when we consider there was ZERO push-back from the ranks of military leadership, specifically the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and when you accept Vindman was simply allowed to return to his post inside the White House – where he remains today; well, the alarming aspect increases in direct proportion to the definition of the word: “coup”.

I would encourage all readers to think long and hard those factual data-points.

CIA Agent Eric Ciaramella never delivered his dossier briefing to the upward chain-of-command within the CIA.  Instead Ciaramella subverted the formal process and transmitted his hearsay complaint, derived from material provided by Vindman, directly to principal officials who could assist in the removal of the President.  Again, often we get caught in the weeds, but think long-and-hard about this impeachment process as it is being discovered.

President Trump released the call transcript from an April 21st conversation with Ukraine President Zelensky.  Reporters noted there was a disconnect between the call transcript and a separate summary of the call sent to reporters in April.

[…]  In response to questions from reporters, the White House said in a Friday statement that “the NSC’s Ukraine expert” prepared the April summary.

“The president continues to push for transparency in light of these baseless accusations and has taken the unprecedented steps to release the transcripts of both phone calls with President Zelensky so that every American can see he did nothing wrong. It is standard operating procedure for the National Security Council to provide readouts of the president’s phone calls with foreign leaders,” deputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley said. “This one was prepared by the NSC’s Ukraine expert,” he added. (link)

That “NSC Ukraine expert” was Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.

For emphasis let me repeat a current fact that is being entirely overlooked.  Despite his admitted usurpation of President Trump policy, Vindman was sent back to his post in the NSC with the full support of the United States Department of Defense.

The onus of action to remove Vindman from the NSC does not lay at the feet of the White House and National Security advisor Robert O’Brien; and upon whose action the removal of Vindman could be positioned as political; the necessary obligation to remove Lt. Col Vindman resides purposefully with the Dept. of Defense.

The Pentagon could easily withdraw Vindman from his position at the National Security Council; yet, it does not…. and it has not.   WHY?

There is a code within the military whereby you never put your leadership into a position of compromise; ie. “never compromise your leadership”.

In this example, President Trump cannot remove Vindman from the White House NSC advisory group due to political ramifications and appearances… The Joint Chiefs certainly recognize this issue; it is the very type of compromise they are trained to remove.  Yet they do nothing to remove the compromise.  They do nothing to assist.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was the majority (#1) source for the material CIA operative Eric Ciaramella used in a collaborative effort to remove President Trump from office.  Let me make this implication crystal clear:

The United States Military appears to be collaborating with the CIA to remove a U.S. President from office.

The Pentagon has done nothing, absolutely nothing, to countermand this implication. The Secretary of Defense has done nothing to remove the conflict that Vindman represents within the National Security Council.  The Joint Chiefs of Staff have done nothing, absolutely nothing, to diminish the appearance of an agenda toward the removal of President Trump.

This is not a complex issue.

No-one in the foreign policy group is going to take any advice or opinion from Vindman.  No-one is going to allow him to engage in material of a sensitive or confidential nature.  Lt. Col. Vindman has compromised himself; and therefore eliminated any usefulness to his prior assignment.  Yet his command does nothing?

This statement by Defense Secretary Mark Esper doesn’t make a lick of sense.

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Monday that an Army officer has no reason to fear retribution for testifying before Congress in the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump.

Esper was asked about potential retribution for Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman during a trip to New York City. The defense secretary said the Pentagon “has protections for whistleblowers” who report waste, fraud or abuse.

He said Vindman or any other whistleblower “shouldn’t have any fear of retaliation.”  (read more)

Keep in mind congressman John Ratcliffe questioned Vindman from the perspective of an Article 92 violation {READ IT}, coupled with an Article 88 violation {READ IT}. President Trump, is Lt. Col Vindman’s superior. President Trump sets the foreign policy.

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. [Article 88, UCMJ]

Two weeks after President Trump has established an agreement with Ukraine President Zelenskyy, and established the policy direction therein, Lt. Col. Vindman is now giving contrary instructions to the Ukranian government. Vindman’s lawyer recognizes where the questioning is going and goes absolutely bananas:

Here’s the Full Transcript

At 9 a.m. Eastern, tomorrow Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, will be testifying publicly in front of the impeachment committee.

This is one set of Questions and Answers that no-one should miss.

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309 Responses to Senator Ron Johnson Outlines Concerns With Lt. Col. Vindman Running Rogue Policy Group Against President Trump…

  1. I S says:

    I don’t know. I don’t think anyone “handles” PDJT. He knows what’s going on. I think he is allowing this to play out because it pulls back the curtain and shows everyone how crazy and crooked the dems are.

    Liked by 9 people

    • hokkoda says:

      Agreed. The downside of viewing everything through a lens of corruption is the tendency to decide everyone is a conspirator.

      The French made this error after the revolution as the bloodbath became over who was and was not sufficiently revolutionary. Either you were ideologically pure (a shifting standard) or you were an enemy of the state to be killed.

      As Voltaire cautioned, “we are all steeped in weakness and error; let us forgive each other our follies; that is the first law of nature” and “every individual who persecutes a man, his brother, because he is not of his opinion, is a monster.”

      At some point, we need to be able to distinguish friend from foe. The list of actual conspirators in Coup Part One – actual conspirators – is quite small. Maybe 6-10 people. There were more who were participants, but their actions were triggered by the conspirators. Lock up or hang the plotters, and the rest are driven out of government.

      No good will come from charging the entire US military of treason. It makes us sound crazy, isn’t true, and ignores our ability to kill the chickens to scare the monkeys.

      Liked by 3 people

      • WSB says:

        Agreed. But how do we handle the guy who installed the surveillance material – “The Gold” – within the White House Dining Room walls?

        I often think about this.

        Liked by 3 people

      • Nattydreadbushdoc says:


        I’d leave him right where he is too. If he starts to believe he’s untouchable, he will screw up. If he knows he is being watched he will change behavior. Those changes could be very informative. Either way, friends close and enemies closer.

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    • swissik says:

      It is against my better judgement, but I truly want to believe in what you are saying. Let me add also that the President exercise caution and NOT testify as Pelosi is requesting. I fear it is a trap and I see no value for the President in such a move.

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      • MelH says:

        swissik, it seemed to me obvious that if the President shunned Mueller, he would be a fool not to shun Nancy. But the the President said he would like to testify but would think about it. i think he also said that, or something very similar, to the Mueller Team. I agree, there would be no value. They intend to crucify him no matter what he says. Why hasn’t he had a hand in crucifying Vindman? The Pentagon can do it but no one else can?

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    • Arizona Artist says:

      The tragedy is that Trump has many more enemies than friends embedded within the bowels of the Deep State and within both parties on both sides of the aisle. Period.


  2. sDee says:

    Sundance could not make this more clear. Is this getting no traction?

    There lies no stone to be turned in our Federal government that does not expose a traitor – a web of domestic enemies that only grows wider and deeper as each knot is pulled.

    Liked by 4 people

    • The Phantom Stranger says:

      I’m not sure I can agree with Sundance’s complete analysis on this subject. As I’ve said before, the National Security Council is a pit of vipers and Vindman easily qualifies in that regard. There’s no disputing that and Vindman likely has powerful benefactors outside of the DoD. He’s not operating alone in the intel community – no one ever is.

      The upper chain of American military command has likely been compromised in some way over the past decade, that I can agree. The military was being prepared and handled much like the FBI and other powerful Federal interests before it. The tactics have worked for them in the past. Anyone unwilling to tow the line during the Obama regime was purged as seen by Flynn’s case and some others.


      • sDee says:

        But there now is no ignoring that the military is involved to the extent that it is unable to clean house.

        Regardless of the hierarchy or structure of the organization, this sedition is pervasive and I see no way that it will ever reform itself. It will have to be torn down and rebuilt – the NSC, the DoJ, the Judicial, the IC ……. each and every bit of it.

        That the military is part of the “resistance” and embraced by the Congressional element of this coup, hammers home the the sobering reality that we citizens no longer have any semblance of a representative government or a justice system based on law.

        If ever there was a time to understand the intent of our founding citizens to pen the Second Amendment, this is it.

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  3. trumpmemesandreams says:

    8 years under Bush Jr. with neocons firmly at the helm, and then 8 years of Obama [Clinton-Kerry] as a neoliberal, has left the nearly all senior US military pushing forever wars and a State department primed for intervention.

    Yet it’s not only the current members of the military, but also all those who have left it recently for their waiting 6-and 7-figure salary positions within the military-industrial complex as various ‘advisors’, think tanks, and lobbyists etc. The MIC is the swampiest and most corrupt of them all, and ties into every single congressman who has a district that produces a component for various warfighting systems — which is to say nearly every single member of congress. Mutually aligned monetary and electoral interests.

    This is why POTUS has so much trouble ending these wars over objections of the military and swamp, which the populous clearly want to end.

    Remember too that Obama in particular reshaped senior military, and military in general, purposefully. The austere budget cuts attrited out many good soldiers and leaders, plus he outright dismissed a large segment of the senior officer corps in a purge reminiscent the Great Terror in a Stalinist USSR.

    By 2013 the count was up to nearly 200.

    President Trump is besieged from all sides.

    Liked by 12 people

    • vicarioushikermom says:

      Eisenhower warned us.

      Liked by 7 people

      • Mark L. says:

        This is so true. Ike did not posses the tools to change the establishment. He observed what was around him. His great skill was to work within it. That was evident during WWII. DJT knew to some extent that the normal political tools would not work to change the status quo. He may be the only individual with the back bone and intellectual skills to bring the house down.

        He needs our prayers.

        Liked by 4 people

  4. vicschick says:

    This is all just so tiresome. I pray for America and President Trump daily. Are we fighting a losing battle? I’m a little heartbroken about Pompeo.

    Liked by 1 person

  5. rvsueandcrew says:

    It is appalling how quickly, vehemently, and with certainty my fellow treepers (mostly “newcomers”) jump to label and condemn Sec. Pompeo and VP Pence at the slightest opening. Sundance makes a thought-provoking statement regarding Sec. Pompeo, does that mean we convict the man? What is this? A Dem website? Why not hold your “tongue” out of loyalty and let things play out a little longer? Sheesh. I’d hate to face a jury with some of you people on it.

    I watched The Count of Monte Cristo last night. Some of the commenters here remind me of the crowd around the guillotine, lusting for blood. I haven’t come across conclusive evidence to justify that.

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    • Sentient says:

      He headed the CIA. Not for long, but are we to assume that he had no – zero – knowledge of and interaction with those nefarious elements that are behind this coup? If so, was he even really in charge? Has he warned the president about Haspel? She’s another Brennan acolyte and almost certainly not trustworthy. And who prodded the president to change our policy regarding Israeli settlements in the “occupied territories”? Our nominal objection to them for 40 years didn’t need to be overturned now. The pardons /commutations of those convicted of war crimes also seems like a solution in search of a problem. I suspect Pompeo in most of these hawkish stances.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Thank you for that rvsue, & crew of course. I try once in a while to interject such things and slow the roll of those who constantly question our VSG President myself, generally to little avail. I also make sure that any rolcon I see is called out, a couple have disappeared. A good thing…

      As was stated above about “every stone turned revealing a traitor”, we should expect MANY stones to be turned over to reveal evil”, it’s a UniParty district of criminals swamp. That is a given… however, how are we not seeing all the “stones” that have been staunchly doing good?

      Are we to think that every single person around our President is a traitor? Impossible. We know better, and we need to keep our absolute faith in Our Creator, however one does so in their own way, and keep our morale high and stay attentive and strong.

      I know most here share what they read and or learn here with others. I hope we all keep our heads on straight while remaining strong and say the right things to help others who aren’t nearly as informed.

      And yep, I hope all Eeyores just zip it. It’s of no use. Ignorance is only bliss to those who would use it against us.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Convict Pompeo of ambition. Then DCs a penal colony in more ways than one. Read up in Politico (West Point Mafia) on loyalty. Loyalty to whom? Loyalty to what?

      Liked by 1 person

    • donna kovacevic says:

      Hey you with all due respect, no one is condemning Pompeo, I for one was voicing what my observation and opinion of him was. What I or others are not allowed to be a little cautious? Hell I don’t trust anyone especially corrupt politicians and yes they are all guilty until they can prove they are not, the dems playbook. I trust PDJT and my Lord Jesus Christ.


      • rvsueandcrew says:

        donna…. I have noticed you often bring up the name of our Lord in comments. It’s always a joy for me to hear from a fellow Christian, however, I perceive a disconnect that vexes my spirit.

        “Hey you…” “Hell I don’t trust….” “they are all guilty…”

        You also wrote the following: “Just my female intuition, something about Pompeo his smile his laugh the facial expression(s) is not genuine and very dubious to me. I have always focused on his look, sometimes he seems very nervous. God I pray I am wrong. God Bless PDJT.”

        I hope you aren’t using the name of our Lord God as cover for stirring up distrust and making judgments. It appears you are. If I’m wrong, I apologize in advance.


    • lotbusyexec says:

      That is one of my favorite books of all time. Sadly, not one of my children’s school even has it on on reading list (optional/supplemental either) 😦

      Liked by 1 person

  6. anthohmy says:

    Am I missing something here? Wasn’t Yanukovych elected and not installed? Wasn’t it an illegal coup when they took him out? Did the vote in the Ukrainian Parliament not meet the legal threshold to impeach him after the antics-like thugs took the city over?

    When 90% of the people in Crimea voted to get out of the then illegally constituted Ukraine, was that a fake vote? I can see if that vote took place when the government was a legally functioning government, but didn’t they vote to detach from those who fomented a coup against leadership that was willing to allow elections?

    I am confused about that part.

    Liked by 1 person

  7. Abe Lincoln says:

    You do realize that at least 2 of the 6 JCS were nominated by BO right…


  8. FPCHmom says:

    Republicans need to start asking the right effing questions –

    Liked by 9 people

    • Justin Green says:

      Colonel Vindman, are you a traitor, son?
      in the late Fred Thompson’s voice

      Liked by 1 person

      • Sentient says:

        Traitor to what country? He was born in Ukraine.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Justin Green says:

          Traitor to the country we’re currently asked to believe he’s working for – the US.

          Liked by 3 people

        • TheOtherSean says:

          Traitor to the country he swore an oath to serve – you know, “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.” I’ve never sworn that oath, but Vindman did, and I question whether his actions are in keeping with it.

          Liked by 1 person

  9. Zy says:

    The Democommunists have opened up the next front. Trump was lying to Herr Mueller/Weissmann. They are telling the court this is the reason they need the grand jury material.

    Pray that the V man is taken care of and that this is our “Midway”.

    Liked by 3 people

  10. ezgoer says:

    If Obama could fire Generals Petraeus and McChrystal then Trump can fire the Joint Chiefs. No tolerance for insubordination.

    Liked by 8 people

  11. Jim says:

    Just saw this. It’s all so unbelievable. But after everything we have seen the last 3 years. Nothing is unbelievable anymore.

    Liked by 1 person

  12. Justin Green says:

    I’m amazed at the number of foreigners that make it that high up in our government. He was born in the Ukraine, for Pete’s sake.

    Nobody was watching this clown? Charges of treason, presuming we delve into his complete activities and financial records, deserve consideration as a possibility.

    Liked by 8 people

  13. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  14. JohnCasper says:

    You’ve got it right. Crimea should be part of Russia, not Ukraine. It is simply a matter of self-determination.

    Liked by 2 people

  15. Heika says:

    Here you go Sundance –

    Liked by 3 people

    • WSB says:

      That…is rather extraordinary. There are some people one just cannot fire. Another careerist? Remember when Obama inducted Government employees to attain a higher level of career officialdom?

      When does this all get even more depraved?


  16. California Joe says:

    ….and somehow because President Trump is not adhering to Col. Vindman’s political agenda with respect to Ukraine President Trump should be impeached and Col. Vindman is protected from any sort of discipline because he is labeled a whistleblower? In what universe does AG Barr allow this travesty of justice continue without having Vindman removed from his position and arrested!

    Liked by 8 people

    • coolmamie says:

      Exactly how do Trump and Vindman’s agendas on Ukraine differ?


      • California Joe says:

        You haven’t been following this saga much have you?

        Liked by 2 people

      • To answer your question:
        Vindman is an Obama holdover who seeks a continuation of Obama’s policy of, under the guise of interest and concern for Ukraine’s security and economic development, only wished to penetrate deep into Ukraine’s political and business structures, the better to subvert them, and manage Ukraine’s independence fervor away from Europe’s influence, weaken it militarily and financially by infiltration, and keeping Putin well-informed of the inner goings-on so that he may plot his own subversions. Ultimate goal? To keep Ukraine within the Russian sphere of influence.
        As someone has already said succinctly: Communists are always doing the opposite of what they say they are doing. Hence, the truth about Russia Collusion is that its first name was The Russia Reset, and was initiated in 2009 by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, the goal being: Russia was to aid Obama toward the Islamization of the Middle East, and Obama was to look the other way after Russian invasions of Georgia, Crimea, and East Ukraine. It’s was also treason of the highest order which continues to this day unabated. If you know what you’re looking for, you’ll see a lot of it in tomorrow’s House hearings.


        • coolmamie says:

          Your answer interests me greatly, and leads to my conundrum.

          If Russia (under Putin) is evil, but Europe is the heart of the globalist movement, which is worse for us – Ukraine under Russian influence or Ukraine under EU influence?

          This is a sincere question.


    • oldumb says:

      How is it AG Barr’s responsibility to remove a military officer? I think that is NOT in his prevue.


  17. Heika says:

    Paul Sperry’s on fire today… head over to his Twitter.. theres a truck load

    Liked by 13 people

    • frances says:

      And following that line of thought; if they pull Vindman out of the WH or take any action against him Schiff could make the case that the ‘whistleblower’ should not reveal himself because he too would suffer retribution. Besides, now they have him neutralized, he is sitting in the WH surrounded on all sides by those not his fans. If he was in the DoD or elsewhere he would have a free hand and phone:) to continue being a subversive, and lastly; given his nature, he is the last guy you want to have seeing himself as a “victim.”


  18. Heika says:

    Imagine this! Ha ha ha… Shifty would jump in and say ‘NOT ALLOWED’ even if they did!

    Liked by 4 people

  19. Bill says:

    So does this explain why Pompeo wasn’t brought back for the Bagdhadi raid?


  20. Some very very interesting comments by the Treepers and Branch Hangers on this post.
    I think Senator Johnson’s synopsis is excellent. It really can’t be ignored – I hope. He’s done more with that letter to support PDJT than all the rest of the Republican Senators combined

    Someone made the comment PDJT has told the military to “hold off” on Vindman. That has merit. Then after this impeachment matter is squelched – fry his ass via the UCMJ.

    Somehow I have a gut feeling the sane and rational Dems (if there are any) will see the hand writing on the wall and Pelosi will put an end to this. I’ve said it before but I still think she’s worried about her legacy.

    My inner jury is still out on Pompeo.

    Liked by 3 people

  21. Interesting thread. The part about this being a typo is intriguing. Even more intriguing is if it were changed by someone on purpose. One person has testified that he requested changes to the transcript, Vindman.

    Liked by 1 person

    • All Too Much says:

      Yes, very interesting.
      My first thought was the name was misspelled on purpose.
      The argument made by the writer smells like the truth.
      Ukraine is a sideshow or diversion taking focus off the much bigger picture of foreign aid as a huge pool of money for the Powers in D.C..
      According to the letter in the thread, Trump ordered an audit of the money, and the current Democrat frenzy is because of the billions at stake in the foriegn aid bank.
      And the name-misspelled former ambassador was the bag man; and is currently under investigation by Ukraine.

      Liked by 6 people

    • WSB says:

      So, we now know Yovanovich was born in Canada. However, where is she really from?

      Russians normally have about two to four names. Maybe this is one.


  22. The Boss says:

    I haven’t seen one comment yet asking why Senator Johnson’s letter was released today. IMHO, the memo serves as a one-sided deposition as well as a challenge to Schiff’s plans for this week’s kangaroo court.
    Will Schiff disallow any mention of the content of the Johnson memo? He’ll look like a petty tyrant again – to the point where the pettiness is removed and he’s viewed as a tyrant.
    Regardless, some enterprising Republicans got substantial, credible and relevant information into the public arena without having to wait for Schiff’s permission. And the Repubs were so nice to cc little Adam.

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  23. Beigun says:

    Bring another table for the “Banquet of Sedition” as the number of participants who desire to inhale the foul and corrupting dream of usurped power increases day by day.

    America’s greatest problem in the world is the lack of a cadre of educated persons in foreign affairs for business and security. Consequently, we see again and again public servants with dual loyalties
    conducting foreign affairs. Both the AMB to Ukraine and NSC LTC bubba have family connections to the “old country” and it is not just in Ukraine that we can find this phenomenon. Take a look around the Beltway and you will frequently find hyphenated Americans working at Think Tanks promoting policy linked to their ancestral homeland. Let these people work in the government, but they should be banned from any assignment with a link to the “old country” of their family! Of course, only in America could we find such naïveté in foreign policy.

    Who is the next witness for Schiff…the person who cleaned the room after the phone call? Another Ukrainian-American?

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  24. While the fake news may be guilty of dramatizing/accentuating the Trump/Pompeo rift for the purpose of wishfully assisting a hoped-for Sr Staff exodus from Trump (think the increasingly isolated Nixon in the Final Days for the final wet dream), the plausibility of a rift makes perfect political sense. In fact it may be a rift precipitated on two fronts:

    1. As I suggested earlier today, Pompeo’s undisguised Presidential ambitions could quite conceivably keep him from a full-throated defense of POTUS as he is not interested in alienating the Washington bureaucracy to which he is an integral member, nor will he do it for the populist (anti-Washington) movement called MAGA.

    Pompeo’s ambitions are more pressing (to him) than running unabashed sacrifice for the current POTUS. This hit some folks up here earlier today as sacrilege. Actually, it sounds very Beltway to me. In fact the article cited in the SD tweet above was conceivably sanctioned by Friends of Pompeo (imo) as it starts to delineate the narrative of how POTUS’ ‘unprecedented assault on the Foreign Service’ may be one bridge too far for the besieged SofS. The article is very sympathetic to Pompeo’s plight. He’s trying to be the loyal Trump soldier. But increasingly his department is expressing hostility towards his efforts. Something has to give. And it will. When does Pompeo head off for his KS Senatorial campaign? The exit will be rationalized by his ‘principled digging-in’ over the venerable independence of the Foreign Service. After all the current POTUS is politicizing a once-aloof and selfless arm of the US Govt. No one can accuse Pompeo of desertion. He’s taking flak for his C-in-C. But there might be a higher calling i.e. the ‘integrity’ of our institutions .

    2. The ‘senseless’ Esper statement is purposefully so. Vindman is being tacitly permissioned by DOD. As SD suggests, this is an easy call. But Esper isn’t blowing the whistle. Why?

    So we have The West Point Class of ’86, under the auspices of State and Defense, pinchering Trump. We knew State was his avowed enemy. Et tu Pentagon?

    This is a REALLY interesting article, below. It’s putting forward the notion that undue loyalty to POTUS might be an expression of disloyalty to the nation. That folks is the rationalizing preamble you hear from every military junte in every military coup ever conducted in the world: the military had to intervene (over the will of the people) for the sake of the nation. When does this soft coup get upgraded to a slo-mo encroaching military coup with able assistance from the diplomatic corps?

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      While I am sure there are many, many people involved with this attempt to unseat PDJT, there are 330 million people in this country who have never known anything other than the freedoms we enjoy. We’re friends, neighbors, relatives. We live, work, and play peacefully side by side. We have in common that we are, by a huge margin, good people. We want the same things out of life for ourselves, for our children, for our grandchildren. We aren’t going to change because a relatively small group of politicians are showing their asses. Politicians and their desires come and go. But we, the people, are always here. There will be no civil war on behalf of politicians. This soft coup will not get upgraded to a military coup on their behalf. This is ‘our’ country. We will not destroy it.


    • seekingthetruth2 says:

      Relying on Politico is silly. That is propaganda, but you are buying into it…..Wrong.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Kaco says:

      And here we all thought POTUS had the military’s support.


  25. WhiteBoard says:

    I have 1 Big Question…

    Was Vindman even on the call? or did he simply access via Sketchy means once his Password was no longer functioning in the system?

    the below excerpt is from Vindman’s Transcript pg 50 – vindman says –

    “As opposed to going into the standard communications system, it went into a different type, a different, more secure system… while i did have an account, it was not functioning properly, so i had to go analog and take a look at – get a hard copy of it – make some — annotate some changes to it, ….”

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Ha. I missed that. He started to say “make some changes”, but then caught himself and said “annotate” instead of “make”. Problem: “annotate some changes” is non-sensical, especially coming from a Really Smart Person. You either “annotate” or you “make changes”… and those two things are very different. Maybe I’m splitting hairs, but I think his confused choice of wording/rewording is telling.

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  26. I think I have Pompeo figured. A pro forma stint at CIA, a pro forma stint at State. Pompeo is a guy who wants to be President. What will he be most remembered for during these stints? That they furnished him with juicy bullets on his magnificent resume i.e. that they were stints. How many time have we seen THIS guy? Too many times to count. No real mystique, no great mystery.

    My early suspicions of Barr (as cynical Bush consigliere) have been allayed. When Barr said he was 68 and had no further career ambitions at his confirmation, I sorta believed him. Now I fully believe him. Barr is serving out of a sense of Catholic duty. His concern for the Republic is genuine and about as selfless as you’ll find inside the Beltway. This won’t fly big up here. But Barr imo has the potential to leave an imprimatur on America second only to Trump himself. And this REALLY won’t fly, but if Trump should go down in a conviction, Barr will continue on his very important mission (fighting secular militarism) unfazed under Pence, and in fact perhaps even more vociferously under our Catholic-Evangelist VP.


    • Despicable Me says:

      I’m not sure Catholic-evangelist is an accurate depiction of VPOTUS. VPOTUS was raised Roman Catholic and continued attending Mass after being “born again” during his college days. He and his wife attended a non-denominational church in northern Virginia while he was an Indiana congressional representative. His wife recently returned to teaching art part-time at the school associated with that church.


        • Despicable Me says:

          Thanks for the link. I hadn’t read that article before and it was an interesting read.

          BTW, I don’t know if you are interested, but VPOTUS’s wiki page reveals he became a born again Christian at the Ichthus music festival in 1978 in Ashbury, Kentucky. I mention this in part because I recently dusted off some some old CDs of Christian musician/songwriter Rich Mullins (who was also from Indiana and heavily influenced by St Francis of Assisi). I was trying to track down some of Rich’s earlier music and learned that he was a youth pastor at that who considered music a hobby until he took his youth group members to the Ichthus music festival in 1978, witnessed the effect music has on young people and decided to do music full time.

          I find it remarkable that two Hoosiers who rose to some level of national prominence had life changing experiences at the same music festival held the same year. I wonder who else can attest to attending that festival that year.

          I recently placed a stone of remembrance on Rich’s grave in Hollansburg, OH which is on the central Indiana-Ohio state line.

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  27. azgulch says:

    My question is, who vets these people coming into the White House? Theoretically, Pence was in charge of this, and I think he has done a really bad job of it. So there is my dish on Pence.

    I would have a rabid Pro-Trumper vet everyone of these people coming close to the President. Hire a few if you don’t have any, or replace some. This is getting tiresome.

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  28. Usually, if you follow the money, you’ll find the corruption. In Vindman’s case though, it may be tougher. It would be interesting to know if he’s been passed over twice for promotion to full bird. If so, then find out where he soft lands. If he hasn’t, then find out how long he’s been a silver chicken. Check his bank account balances, late payments on loans, etc. I would almost bet money that a really deep dive will give you the real story. The kind of deep dives that are supposed to be done on a regular basis, but I suspect aren’t or are even falsified.

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    • Despicable Me says:

      In my previous working life I recall how difficult it was working with former military types who had been passed over for promotion. They had an axe to grind, weren’t afraid to brandish it and everyone had to pay a price for not recognizing their brilliance.


      • Despicable Me says:

        Meant to say former military types who had left the military because they’d been passed over for promotion. Didn’t mean to infer I had worked for the military.


  29. Cathy M. says:

    “Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Monday that an Army officer has no reason to fear retribution for testifying before Congress in the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump.”

    Vindman is a witness, not a whistleblower & he’s a little snit w/ visions of grandeure.

    To my knowledge, there has been zero reporting that Vindman is a whistleblower nor did he ask for whistleblower protection.


  30. OverWatch says:

    Holy crap, this reads like something a sophomore wrote in an 11th hour caffeine fueled panic. I admit there is a lot of good information here. A lot of good stuff. Would have better to allow this to percolate for a day or so? You have to ignore the confusing -nonsensical to get to the prize. Kinda like getting thru the Old Testament to get to the Gospels.

    I know, I have said something bad. Bring on the hate.

    Love y’all.


  31. Cathy M. says:

    1964 movie trailer- “Seven Days in May”

    Top levels of the U. S. Military conspire to overthrow fictional president for signing bad treaty with Russia to disarm all U. S. Nuclear missiles. But Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and many others from The 1960’s Twilight Zone Show


  32. Johnny Dollar says:

    Total bull shit coming from the Military Times, implying the DOD will protect Vindman.

    The Military Times newspaper, quoted above, said this: “He [Defense Secretary Esper] said Vindman or any other whistle blower “shouldn’t have any fear of retaliation.”

    Not what Esper said.

    Esper said he would protect whistle blowers. Period. (News flash! – he’s required to by law).

    Vindman is not a whistle blower. Vindman is giving congressional testimony in which he impugns his boss. In uniform, in public, while still working for that boss. He gets zero points from Esper for doing that. And he’s not going to get any protection from the DOD.

    It may take a while; but, in the DOD, Vindman’s ass is grass.

    The slob reminds me of the Michelin Man. Just had to throw that in. Very unchristian, I know.

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  33. jkcinsalem says:

    I’ll be up at 6am to watch this worm squirm. Uniform or civilian wear? We shall see!


  34. David Peers says:

    Reading the transcript I laughed out loud when Rep. Ratcliffe referred to Rep Swalwell as “President Swalwell”!

    Wonder if this started when Cory Lewandowski sarcastically referred to failed nomination candidate, Swalwell as “Mr President” during Lewandowski’s testimony?


  35. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    The United States Military appears to be collaborating with the CIA to remove a U.S. President from office.

    Senior Officers MAY be.
    And if they decide to go HOT……they lose anywhere from 30-50+% of the active military who will “defect” to the RED TEAM the moment they do. (and many would “defect in place” as the chain of command will have for all intents and purposes broken down)

    They wanna try a VALKYRIE?
    Then BRING IT ON.


  36. G DeWees says:

    Is it within the President’s authority to request of the military NOT to take action against Vindman in order to further help expose the ‘rats’?


  37. Espionage wisdom: “If you’re going to betray your country, do it for the money. You will never find out who you are really working for.”

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  38. The President is the Commander in Chief, but in this case I think that the best thing to do – and, I might think that the Chiefs of Staff are thinking the same thing, too – is to let this man hang himself, if he may. Let testimony come out, whether it is or is not blocked by his lawyers, that he worked to usurp the authority of the President. Any contrary or disciplinary action made now would only be seen as … well, you guessed it. So, wait a little while. We are playing chess, not poker.


  39. Ospreyzone says:

    While everyone is focused on watching the impeachment show, Barack Obama has been working behind the curtain to prepare Deval Patrick for his long PLANNED entrance. As I shared on CTH a year ago, the fact that Patrick stated he was not running should have been adequate evidence that he was. He will come in hard after the impeachment food fight has been exhausted, surprisingly win the nomination, and garner enough of the black vote to derail Trump’s chances in major metro areas of the NE and mid-west. IMHO, that is the plan – directed by a master community organizer.


  40. Kaco says:

    So Obama was able to clean out top brass, fire officers, reshape the military and install people who will agree with his policies and politics, but our POTUS cannot do the same, let alone fire any one of them.

    Please tell me how he can’t do anything based on the precedent of Obama?


  41. B Woodward says:

    There could be 10 trillion reasons to impeach POTUS. It seems the CIA and the Pentagon are engaged in some sedition. I wonder why? It sounds like it is time to reopen the investigation into the TRILLIONS that have gone missing from the Pentagon. One day before 9-11 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. Rumsfeld stated: “According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.” According to a report by the Inspector General, the Pentagon cannot account for 25 percent of what it spends. There was no mention of the missing trillions after 9-11. In 2016, at the end of usurper Obama’s watch, there were reports that another $6 trillion was missing. Oh, and was it really just coincidence that the missile–I mean the aircraft that hit the Pentagon on 9-11 destroyed the Office of Naval Intelligence that was investigating the DoD funding irregularities? And if we go down that rabbit hole, what was it in the CIA and Securities & Exchange offices in WTC Bldg 7 that had to be destroyed? As Trump said, how could 2 airplanes take down 3 high-rise buildings? It’s time to follow the money.


  42. shipley130 says:

    How is someone considered a whistle blower when the basis of the whistle blower testimony is untrue?


  43. CountryClassVulgarian says:

    “When we consider that Lt. Col. Vindman was carrying out what he believed to be his role; and when you overlay his military purpose; and when we accept Vindman was assisting CIA agent Eric Ciaramella in constructing his dossier to remove President Trump; and when we stand back and look at the aggregate interests involved, including Vindman’s divided loyalties toward a foreign power; and when we consider there was ZERO push-back from the ranks of military leadership, specifically the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and when you accept Vindman was simply allowed to return to his post inside the White House – where he remains today; well, the alarming aspect increases in direct proportion to the definition of the word: “coup”.

    I would encourage all readers to think long and hard those factual data-points.”

    I thought really long and really hard on those data-points and I confess I am frightened &$#tless by what they actually mean.


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