Is Pending IG Report on FISA Abuse Being Held-Up To Facilitate NSA Bulk Data Re-authorization That Expires December 15th?…

With impeachment headlines absorbing most attention, there is a quiet background story happening in DC where re-authorization of the USA Freedom Act is needed prior to expiration on December 15th. Techno Fog points out the bulk NSA data collection and FISA(702) surveillance programs are part of this reauthorization.

Just yesterday, November 6th, the Senate Judiciary Committee held hearings on the reauthorization.  “Senators expressed their displeasure Wednesday with the Trump administration’s inability to answer questions about the National Security Agency’s collection of data records” (link). Which begs the question:

Is the current Inspector General report on FISA abuse being delayed due to the need for congress to reauthorize the very same programs the IG is about to criticize?

For context to this question, and considering the potential for some surprising revelations within the IG report on FISA, it is worth noting the Office of the Director of National Intelligence held back the the findings of FISA Judge James Boasberg that strongly criticized the FISA-702 process for a year.

The Judge Boasberg report was written in September of 2018 but not released (redacted) until last month.

There is a serious problem here…

FISA Court judges Rosemary Collyer (declassified 2017) and James Boasberg (declassified 2019) both identified issues with the NSA database being exploited for unauthorized reasons. We have a large amount of supplemental research to see through most of Collyer’s report and we are now starting the same process for Boasberg. However, an alarming possibility makes it important to outline a rough draft of what appears present.

Initially when Collyer’s report was declassified in April 2017 we were able to start assembling additional circumstantial and direct evidence. Two years of releases allowed us to see a more detailed picture.

Additional documents, direct testimony from NSA Director Mike Rogers, and later connected material from court filings, classified releases and ODNI statements made the understanding much clearer. What became visible was a process of using the NSA database for political surveillance. [SEE HERE]

With the Boasberg report we do not yet have enough supportive material to identify specific purposes. However, directly from the report itself there is a lot of information that shows a continuum of database activity that did not stop after Collyer’s warnings, and the NSA promises. It seems, the political exploitation continues; and with that in mind some recent events are much more troubling.

Boasberg notes the “about” query option that NSA Director Mike Rogers halted, technically didn’t stop. Instead operators used the “to and from” option almost identically as the “about” queries for downstream data review and extraction. The FISA Appellate Court appointed amici curiae to review Boasberg’s opinion and reconcile counter claims by the FBI. Boasberg was never satisfied despite the FISC-R amicus assurances. His opinion reflects valid judicial cynicism within his reluctant re-authorization.

One of the weird aspects to both Collyer and Boasberg is that both FISC judges did not ever seek to ask the “why” question: why are all these unauthorized database searches taking place? Instead, both judges focus on process issues and technical procedural questions, seemingly from a position that all unauthorized searches were done without malicious intent.

Accepting that neither judge had the purpose of benefit to overlay any other information upon their FISA review, their lack of curiosity is not necessarily a flaw but rather a feature of a very compartmentalized problem.

Boasberg and Collyer are only looking at one set of data-points all centered around FISA(702) search queries. Additionally, the scale of overall annual database searches outlined by Boasberg extends well over three million queries by the FBI and thousands of anonymous users; and the oversight only covers a sub-set of around ten percent.

As a result of the number of users with database access; and as Boasberg notes in his declassified opinion there is no consistent application of audit-trails or audit-logs; and worse yet, users don’t have to explain “why”, so there’s no FISC digging into “why”; the process is a bureaucratic FUBAR from a compliance standpoint; perhaps that’s by design.

All of that said, and accepting the FISC review is not engaged in the ‘why’, here’s the part where seemingly disparate dots start to connect and things are concerning.

REMINDER from the Mueller Report:

My strong hunch is that behind this process we would find the reason why the ‘Steele Dossier” was so relevant to Mueller. You see, investigating the dossier made the 2017 Mueller investigation an extension of a 2016 counterintelligence investigation and not a criminal investigation (later, those were spun off).

By maintaining the counterintelligence process for Mueller, the FBI was able to continue exploiting the NSA database as a FISA(702) tool for their investigation. The foreign actors played a key role in this process. So long as the Mueller investigation was targeting foreign actors they could collect downstream evidence on the “702” (American persons) returns.

In essence, the “small group” could stretch the NSA database rules to conduct electronic warrantless searches and massive electronic surveillance on targets direct (“to/from”) and indirect (downstream).

The violations that Boasberg is identifying (March 2017 through March 2018) must also include FISA database searches conducted by Mueller’s FBI team. It is all within the same system of electronic surveillance. The pattern, frequency and specifics of the Boasberg report are identical to the 2017 Rosemary Collyer report. Same violations. Same processes.

Against what we see more visible every day; and thinking about how corrupt we already know the Mueller investigation to be; now consider that without going to federal courts to gain legal authority, warrants, taps etc…. using their database access Mueller’s team could continue to exploit the FISA(702) process.

They could gather material for their criminal cases through the NSA database and then transfer those results to their spun off prosecutions.

That’s why the Steele Dossier would be so important. The Dossier formed the basis to continue making the Mueller investigation a counterintelligence operation, Title-I authority. Without the Dossier creating the foreign construct, Mueller’s team would have had to follow Title-III.

There is a better than strong possibility the Mueller team monitored all of their targets, extracted the evidence they needed, transferred it to prosecutors and proceeded to construct cases. They didn’t need too much actual investigation because: (a) they knew the Russian-collusion/conspiracy was false; and (2) they could just access the NSA database and pull all the material they needed.

My hunch is all of this exploitation is why ODNI Dan Coats sat on this Boasberg ruling for a year. Boasberg presented this opinion in October 2018, it wasn’t released until October 2019. That could also be a motive why Dan Coats left right before Boasberg’s opinion was released. Perhaps IC interests did not want anyone putting 2+2 together if this judicial review was released during the ongoing Mueller probe.

Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein authorized Mueller to investigate the Steele Dossier in the second scope memo (August 2017). If these suspicions are accurate, the reason Mueller wanted the dossier included would be to maintain Mueller’s investigation as a counterintelligence operation. [An extension of Crossfire Hurricane] As a result, all previous FBI exploits using FISA(702) database searches would be authorized.

To get the Dossier moved from “political opposition research” into valid “investigative evidence” the FBI needed to find a way to get it into the investigation…. Hence, Carter Page and the FISA warrant became the unwitting target and vehicle to carry it.

That explanation also reconciles why Rosenstein signed-off on the 3rd renewal of the Carter Page FISA. Rosenstein authorized a counterintelligence operation (2nd scope) and simultaneously re-authorized the cover story, the Carter Page FISA renewal.

The ramifications here are actually bigger than the original FISA database abuse. It means the Mueller group had secret ongoing background surveillance on all of their targets; and they did not need court authority (Title-III warrants) to get evidence. Maybe, just maybe, this is part of the reason why John Durham has expanded the time-frame for his review.

Now, bear with me…. Again, just to be prudent, we don’t have the supportive material yet to see through the Boasberg ruling, so there is some conjecture here. However, if we stand back and think about the bigger picture described; and we also think about current headlines continuing to surface; a whole bunch of sketchy new things start to reconcile.

Example: Listen to the video here for a minute as Chris Ferrell explains how people were being monitored by a State Department “war room”.

Remember all of the State Department “unmaskings” that were taking place? Hundreds of unmaskings assigned to U.N. Ambassador Samantha Power, and yet no-one could identify who was doing them?

One of the significant changes between the Collyer report (covering 2016) and the Boasberg report (covering 2017) was an institutional inability to track who was doing the actual database searches. Some internal process was modified to create IC anonymity.

Well, against the backdrop of Ambassador Yovanovitch in 2017 and 2018 “monitoring” American persons in/around her Ukraine interests; and considering all of these database search queries identified by Boasberg in 2017 and 2018 “incidentally” captured Americans; perhaps this explains how the Yovanovitch “monitoring” was taking place.

Burisma Leadership Meeting With Ambassador Yovanovitch in October 2018 – Link

We know what the FBI and “contractors” were doing in 2016; and given how invested the intelligence community is within the current stop-trump operations (writ large); and given the political stakes for the intelligence community, well, would there be a reason they would just stop electronic surveillance in January 2017 when President Trump was inaugurated?

I suspect this NSA database is being continually data-mined by ongoing institutional operatives and contractors who are working against the Trump administration. I suspect the surveillance of their political opposition is ongoing….

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274 Responses to Is Pending IG Report on FISA Abuse Being Held-Up To Facilitate NSA Bulk Data Re-authorization That Expires December 15th?…

  1. mike says:

    We are living in a Stasi wet dream.

    Liked by 17 people

    • A2 says:

      Well, the issue about renewing the USA Freedom Act has been on the radar for at least the past year or two. Just search out the various opinion pieces on the issue. Indeed, it has flown under the radar, but then all this other stuff has happened to get the squirrels running like brownian movement. The deadline is now approaching for renewal, thus a refocus.

      I will not dissect the various opinions from Right or Left. It is clear however, that situations change and a serious look at the act needs to be made from what we are learning.

      It was flawed at the beginning, but thought necessary at the time. Things have moved on and the flaws become more transparent.

      The act should be amended, with specific limitations to its authority.

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      • nimrodman says:

        “Is Pending IG Report on FISA Abuse Being Held-Up To Facilitate NSA Bulk Data Re-authorization?”

        I’ll go for a brief answer in a very “Outlaw-Jose-Wales” vein:

        “I reckon so”

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      • American Nationalist says:

        We don’t need “limitations”, we need to exorcise it from our political way of life. In much the same way as TSA agents and body scanners proved meaningless against radical Jihad, I would love for them to give us a success rate post Patriot act.

        Our country, our constitution, our rules.

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      • By “flaws”, one should understand “crimes by the intelligence community”.

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        • You have hit the NAIL SQUARELY ON THE HEAD….!!!

          Any intelligencia organization EXISTS ONLY FOR EXPLOITING the “unobtrusive” aspects of an organization…This is why the DC rats are on the ledge with the IG report coming out and then the Indictments. These malcontents are just trying to muddy the waters. That is all. However, we have a Pathfinder in our midst…Sundance!!!!!!!!!

          I would say that the will be a crescendo of screams coming in the VERY NEAR FUTURE in/around Washington, DC!!!!!!

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      • Trumpeter says:

        To change the act would draw attention to the abuses that require the change. Pelosi isn’t interested in that conversation.
        The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is the most corrupt committee in Congress. They are not interested in looking into abuses either.

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      • doofusdawg says:

        Undoubtedly this is what Lindsey met with Barr about… so politics will evidently impact the roll out. Once again people are talking about reforms to laws that are already on the books rather than just enforcing said existing laws. More Kabuki theater for the ignorant masses.

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      • John-Y128 says:

        As long as we can still monitor ‘the Squads’ communications!

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    • California Joe says:

      Stasi never had it this good and Stasi isn’t in charge any more!

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    • Rhi says:

      Yup, don’t need spy’s on every corner or incentives or punishments for neighbors ratting out their neighbors when you have everyone’s digital fingerprint stored in NSA headquarters just awaiting one of thousands of deep staters to tap into the system through myriad ways to get info dirt leverage or blackmail on selected target.

      Sundance posits “I suspect the surveillance of their political opposition is ongoing….” However haven’t we at least pondered the possibility that ‘FISA works both ways’? Couldn’t all the coup plotters be under LEGAL surveillance with their international co-conspirators? Would it not be fitting that the seditionists who perverted the instrument of power be taken down LEGALLY by said instrument? Hoisted on their own petard? Made an example so extreme no one would go there again? So it never happens to another President (or person) again?

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      • Redzone says:

        Rhi – everything you say would be great. Only one small problem, which is the R’s only play defense. You are suggesting offense, which would be too effective for R’s to utilize.

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    • GP says:

      SD is the master-and I believe is correct in his assertion that this FISA abuse never stopped…and I said the same thing 2 years ago. The arrogance of these people has no bounds.

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  2. Mr Lawson says:

    Damn Sundance!
    You really should apply for some position in the Trump Admin.
    Your research skills are off the chart!

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  3. frances says:

    I totally agree the entire program should be shut down and in my opinion the Patriot Act and Obama’s NDAA as well. I also wonder if the spying now runs both ways? What became of the HAMMER, who now has control of it, was it possible to duplicate it, so several agencies might at this point each have one??

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    • nimrodman says:

      Dunno about HAMMER, but here’s a telling scene from the Snowden movie (even commie film directors – Oliver Stone – leave a truthful nugget on the trail sometimes)

      “You don’t have to get a FISA court order?”
      “No, not here, XKEYSCORE’s under 702 authority, which means no warrants”

      “Ok, but – US targets – then you’d have to … get … the court order”
      “You mean FISA? Yeah, they’re just a big-ass rubber stamp, dude”

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    • ChampagneReady says:

      Dennis Montgomery who was tricked and deceived by Comey into turning over 47 hard drives of proof of the MASSIVE illegal HAMMER spy software he created for TERRORIST activity use only, which was now being used by Brennan and Clapper instead to spy on mega millions of Americans including FISA judges, congress, and even Roberts of the Supreme Court, said if the documents were printed out in sheets of paper and stacked in a pile, the pile would tower THIRTY MILES high !

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      • littleanniefannie says:

        The only way to stop this is to track down every person involved, try them for treason and execute them. Without fear of death, these treasonous acts will happen again and again. How unAmerican forces within our own government could continually these tactics not only to gain power but to keep sunshine from ever reaching their rat holes will be unbelievable for some. The Patriot Act allowed this to mushroom like an atomic cloud. I won’t say the Patriot Act started it and it’s mind-boggling to me that it could happen so quickly but I am amazed that those in “intelligence” could use the act for such immoral purposes.
        Imagine if this system is not destroyed in the next 6 months and the evil of those using it exposed to sunlight and covered in bleach. The stench alone will permeate the country and should serve as a reminder, even to the most die-hard liberals, that these tactics should never be used in our country. Then again, if the end game is to convert us to a Socialist and Communist country, this will be acceptable policy and used solely to control the masses and ensure that power remains in the hands of a few. Ironic that the crowd that “cares” about “all of us” really only cares about maintaining power and control.
        2020 will tell it all. To remain a Constitutional republic or become a Socialist Communist regime, that is the choice.

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      • Bogeyfree says:

        And yet not a single Congressman or AG has spoken to two legitimate and registered Whitleblowers for years on the Hammer Program and Uranium One.

        IMO ALL Offices of the government in DC are broken and worthless. Congress, FIB, DOJ, State, FISC Court, Judges they don’t serve the people first, they serve politics first and we know where that leads.

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    • formercrookcountyresident says:

      Some of us with very long memories remember when we first started hearing about this NSA data collection in the 1990’s! Anybody else besides me participate in “Jam Echelon Day”? https://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/jam.html

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    • formercrookcountyresident says:

      And 2 years later…… interestingly, just a few weeks after 9/11. https://www.zdnet.com/article/jam-echelon-day-called-a-success/

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  4. Gaius Gracchus says:

    Burn it all down. And jail them all, or worse.

    Or give up and stop having elections and stop pretending we live in a democratic republic where the people have any say in government.

    Liked by 4 people

    • cboldt says:

      Most elections are a sham. Frick and Frack both work for the same team.
      Universal suffrage is a death sentence for liberty, and literally 100% of our elected officials tout universal suffrage as a laudable ideal.

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  5. SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

    I know from where you’re coming and the basic worries about FISA are well put.
    That said,.. the Trump administration, Team Trump, is using FISA too. Maybe even for legit reasons to combat corruption abroad? (like Ukraine…)
    ..just a thought trying to put any cynicism aside

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    • Seneca the Elder says:

      Sam- who or what branch of the Trump Team would be using this totally corrupt FISA system? I can’t think of anyone in the Intelligence/ spying departments who would break ranks like that.

      Our President has been under grave personal assault by these Satanic “security and intelligence “ scumbags for several years at least. The raw power that they have to control and destroy is breathtaking. I don’t think it’s even possible anymore to do anything to control them. Our situation is as bad as China, maybe worse, because we still are under the illusion that this is a Free Country.

      I would rank this article as one of Sundance’s most important and terrifying works. He has clearly identified the problems with the Intelligence Community and their enforcers in the courts and elsewhere. They are running a parallel government with seemingly unlimited power. God help us all.

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      • I agree, this article is a keeper. One of my first reactions after reading the ending was, “Well, duh-uh!” (which means the same as “Ditto”, a la in the movie “Ghost” — it’s a heartfelt approval)

        In a totally different comment, however — I still think the FISA abuse prior to April 2016, and prior of course to “Operation Crossfire Hurricane” and all the Mifsud, Page, Papadopoulos, etc. talk, is the most important to communicate to the public (me). This of course is why I have asked, any number of times, “Where is Mike Rogers? Why isn’t his shutting down the abuse (as we thought) in April 2016 not being emphasized as the point at which the whole sorry “counterintelligence” criminality of the FBI (and CIA, and all of those agencies) was exposed for all to see? People don’t seem to be getting that keeping that point below the radar of public attention has kept the “fix is in” going ever since. The best single line Sundance has written about any of this is when he wrote:

        “On April 19th, 2016, the day after the FBI stopped allowing access to the FISA database, the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary B Jacoby, went to the White House.”

        https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/11/the-doj-and-fbi-worked-with-fusion-gps-on-operation-trump/

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        • The only way that Sundance sentence could be clearer (even to Sundance, perhaps) is to replace “…FBI allowing access…” with “…FBI criminally allowing unauthorized access…”. And most tellingly, during a supremely divisive presidential campaign…

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        • Bogeyfree says:

          Because they don’t want the American public to know just how bad the illegal spying and just how long it’s been going on for.

          It’s their toy and no one is going to take it from them. If they did they wouldn’t be able to play all of their mind control games.

          Just look at how many people totally changed in a short period of time once they got to DC. Why is that?

          Leverage is a very powerful tool!

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      • Bubby says:

        Seneca I would be surprised if anyone in the FBI,DOJ or IC currently accessing the FISA system would be considered on the “Trump Team”? I agree wholeheartedly that this massive illegal spying on US citizens is “terrifying” and my guess it continues to this day unabated in the ongoing coup attempt! The obama administration tore the 4th Amendment to shreds and Sundance is casting doubt whether it can be restored! There appears to be no will within Congress to change the illegal access to the FISA system? Godspeed President Trump!

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    • Seneca the Elder says:

      Sam- who or what branch of the Trump Team would be using this totally corrupt FISA system? I can’t think of anyone in the Intelligence/ spying departments who would break ranks like that.

      Our President has been under grave personal assault by these Satanic “security and intelligence “ scumbags for several years at least. The raw power that they have to control and destroy is breathtaking. I don’t think it’s even possible anymore to do anything to control them. Our situation is as bad as China, maybe worse, because we still are under the illusion that this is a Free Country.

      I would rank this article as one of Sundance’s most important and terrifying works. He has clearly identified the problems with the Intelligence Community and their enforcers in the courts and elsewhere. They are running a parallel government with seemingly unlimited power. God help us all.

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  6. cboldt says:

    — I suspect this NSA database is being continually data-mined by ongoing institutional operatives and contractors who are working against the Trump administration. —
    The institutional abuse is self-serving. Natural for it to be against accountability and the Trump administration, but also natural to think the abuse would continue under ANY administration, even one it favored.
    The government snoops to the extent it is physically possible. The law has no play here, other than massive lip service to fool the people into believing any part of the government gives two hoots about the fourth amendment.
    Church Committee – claimed it would curtail abuse, actually enabled it.

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    • I would like to point out that as a software developer these systems can work BOTH WAYS. Whoever has access MUST BE LOGGED INTO THE SYSTEM. From my understanding working with .gov computers, one needs a CAC card to access any system…try logging in without a CAC card…NO CAN DO…

      In that VAIN I believe that ALL THE DATABASE(S) ARE BEING MONITORED BY THE WHITE HATS AND THEY ARE SEEING IN REAL-TIME ALL THE INFORMATION AND QUESTIONS BEING ASKED OF THE SYSTEM!!! Reverse Sting Operation. The more coup people use the system the more is being gathered as evidence…and this brings into the picture…IF ANY QUERY IS BEING DONE ILLEGALLY AND THE SYSTEM IS BEING MONITORED THEN THAT IS PRIMA FACIA EVIDENCE OF MIS-USE OF GOV EQUIPMENT & INFORMATION!!!!!!!! OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

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  7. Darrell Michael Richardson says:

    The whole program up to and including the entire NSA,CIA and FBI are all using un-Constitutional actions against we the people period….FULL STOP.

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  8. coolmamie says:

    Do you think any of that unauthorized use of the NSA database since Inauguration Day was done by government allies of Trump surveilling people like Adam Schiff, for instance.

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    • Doppler says:

      Coolmamie, my hope is that, the reason it has taken so long is that white hats couldn’t use any unauthorized stuff to lock people up, so new people were brought in, and they, independently, got proper warrants to surveil these clowns, who’ve all now hung themselves conspiring to overthrow Trump to avoid being held accountable for their own pay-to-play, obstruction, corruption crimes, without any “fruit of the poisonous tree having to be served up.

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    • SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

      If Democrats conducted criminal activities abroad they surely had every reason to use FISA.

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  9. Andy Texan says:

    Sundance, Dennis Prager has a very interesting interview with the English-Russian women whom Stephen Halper used against General Flynn. Her name is Svetlana Lokhova, historian at Cambridge University in Cambridge, England. In the interview, she says that Halper was paid a million dollars by the Pentagon. Had not heard these allegations previously.

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    • railer says:

      That’s been out, that those Pentagon contracts were suspicious, and Halper and others were being paid out of them. That’s why Mattis stonewalled that Pentagon audit at the start of Trump’s presidency, the first thing Trump ordered. That stooge Mattis basically said that the Pentagon was un-auditable.

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  10. billrla says:

    Perhaps, this mysterious NSA database is simply Google, and we are all in it. Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, Instagram, etc., are just plug-ins to the database. We are all inside the database, looking out, and we cannot make any sense of what we see, because we don’t have authorization, and a stuck in our own data silos.

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  11. Doppler says:

    Great insight, Sundance. Deep State is going to deep state.
    Can we put privacy back in Pandora’s box? I say we try, and then support construction of a new internet that only let’s the NSA or any of our our tech companies collect thin-thread like connectivity data.

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  12. Tom Hansen says:

    Until safeguard measures are put in place by Congress to prevent the abuse of the FISA court system, re-authorization by the Senate should not approve it. In its present form, widespread abuse occurred and will continue to occur. The abuse has done more damage to the IC, DOJ, and FBI and weakened a Presidency compared to the benefits the bulk data collection obtained legally.

    Shut it down until new safeguards are in place.

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  13. islandpalmtrees says:

    This is back to who has *authority* to make such changes (Some internal process was modified to create IC anonymity), especially under the over site of the military. This is a case of bringing all of the NSA directors in for “shall I say a little talk”. Something the current CIA director can help with.

    Sundance wrote:
    “Boasberg and Collyer are only looking at one set of data-points all centered around FISA(702) search queries. Additionally, the scale of overall annual database searches outlined by Boasberg extends well over three million queries by the FBI and thousands of anonymous users; and the oversight only covers a sub-set of around ten percent.

    One of the significant changes between the Collyer report (covering 2016) and the Boasberg report (covering 2017) was an institutional inability to track who was doing the actual database searches. Some internal process was modified to create IC anonymity.”

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    • meow4me2 says:

      Yes, this key. Who authorized those changes? Who allowed the anonymity feature? All those who signed off on the change and all legal counsel affirming the propriety of the change are complicit in 4th amendment violations. Who are these people?

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      • Seneca the Elder says:

        Meow- does anyone think we will ever find out? Our situation is far worse than anything Kafka could imagine. If you use any kind of device that’s connected to the internet you’re in the electronic Gulag.

        They have so much info on me, and I’m a total nobody, that they can f#@$ me up every which way from Sunday. Look at what they did to Gen. Flynn. And I’m wondering if Manafort is still rotting away in solitary.

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      • Seneca the Elder says:

        Meow- does anyone think we will ever find out? Our situation is far worse than anything Kafka could imagine. If you use any kind of device that’s connected to the internet you’re in the electronic Gulag.

        They have so much info on me, and I’m a total nobody, that they can f#@$ me up every which way from Sunday. Look at what they did to Gen. Flynn. And I’m wondering if Manafort is still rotting away in solitary.

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    • That SOMEONE WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF CLEARANCE TO OPEN THE SYSTEM LIKE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!! Work it backward…WHO HAS the highest level of clearance that COULD turn off the bit that no one could be tracked when doing searches? NOTE: It is ONLY a handfull!!!

      However, given this hypothesis, I believe that the “WHITE” hats KNOW who is doing the illlegal searches…

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  14. burginthorn says:

    Its an extremely powerful tool. Who wouldn’t want to use it, exploit it to advantage? Protections, security and laws be damned. Its like the discovery of fire. A powerful tool that must be used with caution, there are rules because of its destructive nature. But once one experiences the benefits of fire, could you go back, do without it?
    I fear this issue will be something that will be ongoing forevermore.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Money and power are the motivations. And, all processes can be circumvented, since they are the creations of man. Want to stop it, shut the NSA database down. But, first trace the people involved back to their source.

      Same basic reply for the CIA, FBI, etc. Shut them down, by turning off the money/funding instead of power.

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  15. islandpalmtrees says:

    You know, Crowdstrike contractors could still be running these queries from almost anywhere. Or, one or more of the partners, such as Threadconnect.

    Send in some experts into the NSA database complex and you could have your answers in under one hour. To include all of the locations the clients are working from.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      We know this to be true based on the Whistleblower tapes where Montgomery goes to a defense contractor in Southern California and pays an access fee to use their Super Computer to access the HAMR program.

      So yes IMO this non stop surveillance abuse has many, many unfettered access, entry points for those who seek to abuse it.

      But again, PT has never spoken about this rampant abuse in any detail to Americans.

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  16. LouisianaTeaRose says:

    Well, Marie, sounds like Rudy crashed your cozy little corner of the coup. Can’t wait til you get your sweet lil’ pundit gig so you can trash our President along with those fake news hacks. Hope you rack some bucks so you can buy yourself a defense attorney.

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  17. This is how you know Trump is clean, and his kids too. No other candidate has been so thoroughly investigated down to the gnat’s ass like Trump. They got nothing.

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  18. WSB says:

    I have suspected this as well. However, what was it that Mike Rogers shut down? Only contractors outside the governemnt?

    And was the Ambassador to Ukraine accessing the NSA database on John Solomon, Sarah Carter and the Fox journalists? I thought she was just monitoring their social media accounts.

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  19. Gary Hunt says:

    I will ask again. How many GOP House “retirements” were a result of IC data base access convincing them to retire.

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  20. JPinBalt says:

    Such doublespeak to have them call it the “Freedom Act” which just continued “Patriot Act” authorization of warrentless mass surveilence of people by government, right out of 1984. Not too dissimilar to named legistlation like the “Affordable Care Act” which quickly caused health insurance premiums to sky rocket.

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  21. WES says:

    This is what I surmise. The IG report is being held back until the Senate can get the current FUBAR legislation passed. Once passed, it will be too late to implement the IG’s report recommendations and changes. As SD suspects it is what the deep state wants!

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    • JPinBalt says:

      Look at the committees drafting and voting on the legistlation. The members are awash with lobbyist money or campaign contributions from high tech data firms set to make a bundle of cash if they keep the unchecked surveilence state going. I wonder if some congresspersons select committees because some yield higher corporate campaign donations?

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      • WES says:

        JPin: No doubt! The more money the more power they have! Without money they have no power!

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        • littleanniefannie says:

          Every time a Democrat demands President Trump release his tax returns, he/she should first be asked to release his/hers. Those screaming the loudest likely have the most corruption to cover up. A ballot initiative should be adopted in every state that calls for the mandatory release of tax returns not only for Congressional and Presidential candidates but for each and every firm which lobbies Congress and the returns of the companies/organizations should be required to itemize every contribution, whether to a Congressperson or an individual (call it the Biden effect). Failure to comply should result in permanent loss of government funding or tax exemptions.

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  22. Jim Raclawski says:

    this mass surveillance effort – unlimited … uncontrollable.. inextricably tied to our technology driven civilization… provides near infinite collection capability ….. it is irreconcilable with a nation that cares a hot second about personal liberty and would like not to be subjugated and live under the boot of tyranny….. the “processes” can’t be tweaked… massaged…gimmiked.. oversight by trusted political elites…(deep staters) or restricted..in any way …. to counteract the nature of our darker sides. Oh for sure we need to protect against hostile actors…. but we can’t help it….
    it’ll be continue-reauthorization granted … right up until the last gulag bed space is assigned …

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    • The Demon Slick says:

      I have never understood how Mueller and crew were able to use a law that specifies that it is only for criminal investigations, the special counsel statute, and turn it into a counter intelligence weapon. How is it that they used title one surveillance, national security tools, and then used the evidence gathered in court, title 2, criminal evidence laws. How did they just in your face do it and nobody said a word? Anything Mueller did that was not specifically to further a criminal investigation is illegal. Any counter intelligence investigation is illegal.

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      • Redzone says:

        Hopefully Horowitz or Durham will provide bright sunlight on the differences between a counterintelligence investigation and a criminal investigation. Media doesn’t seem to be overly concerned.

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  23. WSB says:

    PS reauthorization, my ass.

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  24. Jeanne says:

    Since the IG and AG are apparently doddering senior who don’t remember where they are, maybe it’s time for President Trump to just do what he promised – fully declassify everything and put all the docs on the internet. Then we all have all the information. The IG and AG are taking extra time in order to keep information from us, not to enlighten us. They ask the guilty parties to review and offer edits to their reports. I don’t think we need that pile of poo.

    Just declassify so the people have the facts. We will figure out what to do with them. Given our current law enforcement agencies track records, it looks like we will have to go back to tar and feathers and putting the bent cops in stocks on the public square. We can throw rotten food at them. Gluten free of course.

    Give us what you promised, Mr. President.

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  25. The Boss says:

    We have serial peeping Toms at all levels of government.

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  26. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    This is my belief about the cases against the Ukrainians Giuliani was working with. Deep state gets tipped off that Giuliani is on Ukraine trail with help of these guys. SDNY is given years worth of NSA searches who then runs an illegal parallel investigation which they claim goes back years. I’ll never trust any federal agency again.

    When Nunes ran cover for renewing patriot act even knowing what deep state did with the powers it gave I doubted nation will ever go back to truly free. He’s about as good a guy we have and he feels mass surveillance is the only way.

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  27. MNcarrypermitholder says:

    I find it hilarious that there are anonymous searches being done in these databases.

    The FBI won’t even let me use a private IP address space and NAT to connect my workstations to my own (law enforcement) database. Because some of the records in my database contain criminal justice information derived from FBI databases, the rules require that all queries be accountable to an individual human being and also to a specific machine.

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  28. MJ says:

    Bear with me…

    I played a game once where one particular resource, money, was disproportionately available in relation to the play of the game. In other words, money was in short supply and was the most valuable resource.

    One day I found an obscure and extremely circumstantial bug that allowed me to double my money every time I logged on. The window of the bug was short but even in a short time I amassed enough money to never worry about it again, ever.

    With infinite resources I then quickly conquered all aspects of the game. It was very fun being able to enjoy so much, so quickly, and so easily.

    However, after that initial enjoyment phase, something else happened. First, the game wasn’t fun anymore as there was nothing challenging left to do. Second, I atrophied all of the skills I had learned over time. Skills that were needed in a “fair” environment were lost. Finally, I didn’t have the ability to play fair and I didn’t have any desire to play in a fair environment. The only way for me to play the game anew was to create a new account and transfer the money into that account.

    I think about these things every time I read about FISA abuses. I see the same things that I felt when I “cheated”. These FISA searches are a drug. They can’t stop using them. They can’t live without them. They don’t know how to survive without them. It’s the only way they can play.

    No, they haven’t stopped abusing NSA queries. Not a chance.

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  29. ballgame17 says:

    There are a lot of very bright and knowledgeable people on this site . I need your takes on the following:
    1- Why are the Senate Intel and Judiciary Committees NOT holding parallel OPEN hearings interviewing ALL of the same players Schiff’s “star chamber” has had in and , thus, presenting a transparent narrative contemporaneously destroying Schiff’s game?
    2- The “whistleblower ” has no legal right to anonymity in that he doesn’t meet the criteria as a whistleblower. so why is this not exposed and taken off the airwaves / MSM by the Senate?
    3- Are McConnell, Tillis( Intel) , Graham( Judiciary) , Imhofe ( Armed Services) and the other usual dirtbag suspects ( Collins, Romney, Sasse, Murkowski,, and more ) incompetent? Corrupt? or stupid? for not countering anything the House is doing?
    Help me out, please.

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    • nimrodman says:

      1- similar question was posed to a GOP Senator on TV (saw it on Fox News) and he said because Senate has no power to do so, that “impeachment” powers are solely in the House at this stage.

      Now, that doesn’t answer why they’re not conducting hearings and interviews under some other rubric like general judiciary interests … but that was the answer offered.

      The witnesses the Dems are calling are specifically having to do with the House’s “impeachment inquiry”.

      I don’t know that GOPs in the Senate could rightly call the same witnesses and mouth homilies that they’re calling them for some other purpose different from that “impeachment inquiry” … gnomesayin’?

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    • nimrodman says:

      2- the “whistleblower” is not a whistleblower

      In addition to the aspects you brought up, is he even a whistleblower with the rules and regulations

      Don’t those rules have a protocol whereby the blower is to blow within his own agency? Like to an Inspector General or equivalent up the chain from him?

      Did he?

      Or did he bypass that procedure and go outside and start working with House Dems like Schiff?

      What WAS his chain of command? He was a CIA employee detailed to the White House? So CIA chain of command? White House chain of command?

      Or do regs allow you go outside – to Congress?

      I haven’t kept up with all aspects of this, so truly don’t know

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      • cboldt says:

        This so-called whistleblower was enabled by deep state plant ICIG Atkinson. Atkinson knows this report is out of his jurisdiction, but he advanced it anyway.
        Which IG has jurisdiction over the White House? None! Although Schiff would have you think all of them do.
        September 3, 2019 DOJ/OLC Opinion: Complaint to ICIG Atkinson is not “Urgent Concern”
        October 22, 2019 – Letter from Horowitz and other IG against DOJ-OLC Opinion
        October 25, 2019 – Engel’s response to IG Community complaint
        I think it is fair to find that over half of the federal government is engaged in self-serving sabotage of one kind or another.

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      • Bromdale says:

        ‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

        Understandably, Alice was at a loss for a reply.

        The present conflict between the President and his opponents is one in which the English language is being used as one of the most powerful weapons. Specifically: there is no “whistleblower”.

        On 26 September I watched the House Judiciary Committee Hearing with the Acting DNI, Joseph Maguire, as witness. Mr Maguire had received a document from a member of his staff who was expressing concern about the content of a telephone call between President Trump and the President of Ukraine. It was clear to him immediately that the complainant was not a “whistleblower” in the generally accepted sense, as the individual complained about did not hold a position within the organisational hierarchy over which he, as Acting Director, had authority. He had sought advice on the proper way to respond, and then passed the matter on to the appropriate agencies. That was all. Not surprisingly, he had nothing else to say on the matter.

        There has to be another way to characterise the people who are spuriously appropriating “whistleblower” status to denigrate the President or his administration. In some instances it certainly seems as though certain individuals could have been installed into selected positions for this exact purpose. Once upon a time we might have referred to such a person as a “mole”. The White House seems to be teeming with moles.

        Whatever term we use, the perversion of language by the President’s opponents must be directly confronted. As currently presented, “impeachment” is not really impeachment, a “hearing” may not really be a hearing, a “witness” may not really be a witness, a “representative” may be no such thing … and so it goes on. The Maguire hearing even featured a “parody” that was not a parody. As long as the President and his supporters fail to challenge this pervasive re-working of reality they are operating from a position of weakness, the consequences of which could be significant.

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        • cboldt says:

          Notice that supposedly respectable institutions are reworking the language. Congress, the courts, the press, academia.
          This isn’t a small pocket of lunatics. The fabric of society is being torn, deliberately and with purpose. It will take a miracle to wake the public.

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          • littleanniefannie says:

            One grain of Socialist rice on square one, 2 grains of Communist rice on square 2, 4 grains of Socialist rice on square 3, 8 grains of Communist rice on square 4, 16 grains of Socialist rice on square 5, 32 grains of Communist rice on square 6, 64 grains of Socialist rice on square 7. In one week, 127 grains of Socialist/Communist rice have been introduced in our square. On the 30th day of the month over 500 million grains goon the square! The Obama administration had 8 years, no wonder the corruption was worldwide—it couldn’t be contained here!!

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    • Mark Thomas says:

      Probably compromised, just a matter of the degree. Could be illegal or immoral activity

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  30. nimrodman says:

    Sundance said: “I suspect this NSA database is being continually data-mined by ongoing institutional operatives and contractors who are working against the Trump administration.

    Ok. so what are Barr (DOJ) and Pompeo (State) going to do about it?

    And what will President Trump direct them to do about it?

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    • Bubby says:

      Nim exactly! Everyone accessing the NSA database are all under the authority of the President! The problem I see is that those accessing the NSA database don’t care what President Trump, AG Barr or Pompeo may request and will just ignore any efforts to stop illegal searches. Until someone gets indicted, convicted and jailed for illegal searches maybe then they will stop. Illegal searches are like catnip to the deep state it’s how they maintain control.

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    • Redzone says:

      They should expand former Sheriff Arpaio’s outdoor AZ tent prison, name it Reality Winner, and fill it with every single person that ever downloaded one document illegally.

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  31. LeperSandwich says:

    Seems like a top priority here for Barr and co should be to find out who modified the internal process to allow create IC anonymity when querying. Once we know who, should comb through all their communications with the database if possible to determine motive and co-conspirators, since their clearly flew in the face of the first judge’s recommendations.

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  32. jello333 says:

    Yeah, the bad guys have some intel capabilities, but I have a feeling the good guys are doing just fine…

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  33. leftnomore says:

    I well remember the Rs and Limbaugh throwing a fit when then-Senate Majority Leader Reid claimed “we killed the Patriot Act!” We wanted Reid’s head on a spire for attempting to do such a thing. Now we wish he’d been allowed to do so. Ashamedly most of us regret the Iraq war too. Are we actually closet Dems?

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    • railer says:

      The neocons are, yes.

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    • ballgame17 says:

      At least some of us reflected on the bogus GWBush Iraq War for what it cost in lost lives, shattered lives , US treasure , and , as significantly , destabilization of the Middle East / SWA/ North Africa and now the WEST with the mass migrations of Islamic garbage. Thanks for the chaos , GWB. We’re still there protecting Syrians, Kurds, Iraqis, Afghanis and Saudis—and losing American lives unnecessarily.; paying corrupt governments billions and billions and what do we get but rebuke. BTW, we can’t even protect our own borders. Good job , Bush and Cheney!

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  34. Speaking Truth to Groupthink says:

    Politics aside, I suspect many of these contractor queries are also used for insider trading/financial reasons. I suspect those with access are profiting handsomely selling information.

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  35. k4jjj says:

    The Merle Haggard song lyrics of Are the Good Times Really Over are running through my head now….”Are we headed downhill like a snowball headed for hell?… With no kind of chance for the flag or the Liberty Bell?”

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  36. ChampagneReady says:

    Even if the sinister plan to use the ruse of a counter intelligence investigation with Muller, any occasion where an American’s name was scooped up or “lifted,” they were to use MINIMIZATION procedures and to NEVER unmask the name unless it was absolutely factually certain that they were consorting with a foreign enemy country.

    NO minimization was done whatsoever. So not only did they concoct a bs reason for the investigation, they subverted all the rules and guidelines that were mandatory even in a counter intelligence investigation.

    They should hang in a public square with neon lights flashing the word TRAITORS above their gallows.

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  37. De Oppresso Liber says:

    Sometimes we just have to face the sad, hard, facts of life for what they are. In my humble opinion, my fellow Treepers, we are just stuck with the surveillance state forever.

    Regardless of “about,” or “to and from,” 702’s……whatever, the toothpaste is out of the tube.

    This is very much like the issue of nuclear weapons. Once the technology was realized, it changed our world forever, because it will now always be with us. NOBODY is going to willfully surrender that power, once it is attained.

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    • dwpender says:

      The entire FISA “process,” as well as the super-secret FISA Court should be abolished. Attempting to foist a veneer of legitimacy on these surveillance activities is a sham, as well as a massive waste of taxpayer resources.

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  38. Newhere says:

    Everything is backwards. Our representatives should be DEMANDING the report as a condition even for considering re-authorization. Instead, they’re (possibly) conspiring to keep the report under wraps so they don’t have to draft awkward talking points when they re-authorize the tools for our subjectification.

    That we even have to wonder shows how far we are from draining the swamp.

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      Every one of them that votes for reauthorization should be asked at Q&As, town halls, etc why they voted to reauthorize. Every candidate should be asked how they would vote and then should be held to account if they deviate.

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  39. pocaMAGAjunta says:

    Control of information is what the fight is all about. Is it even possible for a benevolent authority to justly wield this power without itself becoming corrupted?

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  40. sarasotosfan says:

    Whether or not there is a deep state linkage to the delay, I believe we have seen this play before. We should not allow our representatives to curtail our liberty in the name of security. Wasn’t this done two years ago?

    I suspect the potential of criminal indictments is a useful excuse and if we see the fractured Congress miraculously unite over this renewal you have hit another target squarely Sundance.

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  41. ezduzit63 says:

    Great job Sundance…the Alpha Bank scam possibly tanked due to Lynchs inability to get the FISA approval to cover spying already in progress…they needed a plausible story such as the Dossier like you pointed out for CI Investigation.All the collection I still believe started with Obamas order I believe strongly. CIA/NSA could use TAO Training excuse to skirt the FISA process but the FBI could not I dont believe.Hence Co Intel Positions for Counter Intelligence.
    Thank you Sundance for your great insight & analysis

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  42. Merkin Muffley says:

    This is totally irrelevant to the investigation! The report is being delayed because the Deep State wants impeachment to go first. Then the report is moot.

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  43. FreedomLover says:

    I watched the entire interview of Lee Smith. One thing he didn’t mention at all is how the whole apparatus could be used to spy on all of congress. I suppose all of the Judiciary branch also. He jumps from if they can spy on a political candidate for president to they can spy on all of us. I haven’t read his latest book: is this a blind spot for him? Maybe it’s just old news to him. But I think that is huge.

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  44. Bogeyfree says:

    Could this have been the subject of the Barr / Graham meeting the other day?

    Amazing a tool that was weaponized and abused, that has caused so much damage and harm to our President and many within his team but yet there is no one leading the charge for dramatic change to stop the unfettered access to the database.

    In the end they ALL seem to want to keep this spying, leverage tool in place.

    It’s time IMO for PT to start talking about the illegal and abusive searching that has been going on as most Americans are clueless and think the FIB is actually out there in the streets and knocking on doors to dig up there “evidence”

    Boy has PT exposed a ton to those who are open and willing to see the truth.

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  45. Paprika says:

    Well now, it would seem to me, that even if Congress reauthorizes without new rules/safe guards in place PT could use Executive Order or just order the heads of all the intel agencies to put the proper safe guards in place.

    If the IC’s and whoever is in over all charge of the database could change the parameters and turn a switch to no longer track and identify users as a matter of policy, then I would think PT could tell them to reverse policy and provide well defined policy/regulations with no loop holes and severe penalties for abuse. Not a perfect solution, but it is a start.

    He could also “ask” the FISA Court what safe guards they have put in place(which of course has obviously been none so far) or should be in place.

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  46. John55 says:

    Speaking of reports being held up …

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  47. Bogeyfree says:

    So one other question Sundance didn’t answer………

    If the delay is about getting funding approved for continued spying for another year before releasing the FISA report, does this have any bearing in helping us determine if Barr is more black hat or white hat?

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    • Lester Smith says:

      Let me get this right a completed report cannot be release until renewal for future Fisa rules. Maybe not being released until impeachment by house is completed. Wouldn’t want to have something out there that might interfere with impeachment. Think about this report based on present and past fisa rules. This new renewal has nothing to do with present rules. Report being held up for political reasons. What next cannot release report until elections are over. This report is being canned. Durham report based on fisa report well, well, well interesting isn’t it.

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  48. hokkoda says:

    “We TOLD you people that we would not be able to control our totalitarian state impulses if you passed the USA Patriot Act.” – Liberals, circa 2002.

    “Stop making us spy on you.” – Liberals 2019

    “Why do you love terrorists and want another 9/11? Spying on Americans is a critical tool in the GWOT!” – the Government Party in unison, sometime next month.

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  49. lolli says:

    Treepers,
    I have been posting this link to Barr’s precrime unit he is setting up.
    This is the patriot act on steroids.
    Federal red flag law.

    I don’t think Barr has an interest in ending the surveillance.
    Please, look into this. Tell me what you think, please

    This is just one article I grabbed to provide a link.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/33885-ag-bill-barr-quietly-reveals-plan-to-establish-federal-pre-crime-unit

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    • I haven’t checked it out, but it sounds like “The Minority Report” movie. So…they’re data-mining even Tom Cruise movies. Oh noes, said the small, quiet creatures.

      One of the telling meta-points of our time is the careless, even thoughtless, extension of new technologies (example: iphones) — just because, well, because they can, and of course it’s all they know how to do — for little good or, in this case, great evil. I have for most of my adult life seriously wondered how to make sure more than just a few know how to use our technologies (I still want to be able to build my own TV set, for example).

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  50. Little Berkeley Conservative says:

    It was surprising watching the hearing as the Dems fully support the program and the GOP were asking the tough questions.

    The Weigman guy from the NSC was not believable in his description of the protections in place to prevent abuse of the program.

    It was discussed that there’s supposed to be an advocate involved in each case to protect the person being spied upon, but that they never do that in practice.

    Di Chi Fi was a little to gung ho for my liking!

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    • Dee Paul Deje says:

      Di Fi Chi Spy

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      • jb says:

        Di Lie Fi Chi Spy

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        • Little Berkeley Conservative says:

          How did you get so wealthy, Di?

          Ancient Chinese Secret!

          Liked by 8 people

          • Dee Paul Deje says:

            How did you get so wealthy Di, Mitch, Paul, Hunter, Quid Pro Joe, Cankles, Justin Amash, and many more? Same Answer.

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          • “no consistent application of audit-trails or audit-logs; and worse yet, users don’t have to explain “why”” along with “no institutional ability to track users”

            Folks this is sufficient reason to NOT renew NSA Bulk Data Reauthorization until all 17 intel agencies have been completely re-engineered abolishing all redundant agencies and implementing REAL safeguards US citizens are not the target of the very systems/technologies developed and funded for international criminal activity along with SCOTUS making change to FISC rules and FISA processes that includes Qtrly citizen panel review. If an Intel agency believes a US Citizen is engaged in criminality, they must FIRST approach the FISC (court) and satisfy a series of “tests” that heavily protect the Citizen.

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      • fhb says:

        1.the USA has been infiltrated at all levels of government by actual Soviets/communists/socialists/criminal gang/billionaire puppet masters…
        this is a no-sh*t , obvious thing but to fully realize is just dis-heartening
        2.LBJ and Goldwater and Chicago politics is the pre-cursor training / experience
        as to what is happening currently
        3. zero/44 anger at those being “woke” [ which is just mentally/ emotionally] is telling them they need to be “pro-active” [which is now to channel that energy to physical action]
        like a coach would do. Seems he is also MAD that his “folks” are not ready for a regular gay president [unlike him; hiding it ] in petey b.
        4. coup has started, rebellion , 1 falls 2 take spot……a lawyer no less. not a parody

        Be ready.
        God bless USA

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