It’s Deja-Vu All Over Again – The Ukraine Effort is Simply “Obstruction 2.0″…

[Background] As I’m wiping down the white-board to outline the corrupt purposes, intents and connections, suddenly it becomes obvious. The Ukraine story is Obstruction 2.0.

To assemble a quick elevator explanation of the Muh Russia obstruction construction, and to better understand the end goal of the political objective which encompassed the use of the FISA court, CTH previously said:

To get impeachment, they needed obstruction. To get obstruction, they needed an investigation. To get the investigation, they needed evidence. To change dossier from oppo-research to evidence they needed a FISA. To get a FISA they needed a target. The target was Carter Page.

While assembling the more recent deployment of Adam Schiff’s Ukraine story, I recognize something familiar:

To get impeachment Schiff needs obstruction.  To get obstruction, Schiff needs an investigation.  To get an investigation Schiff needs evidence.  To change political innuendo into evidence, Schiff needs a ‘whistle-blower’.  To use a ‘whistle-blower’ they need a report… And guess where we are?

In the 2016/2017 Muh Russia operation we notice the same general cast of characters were involved.  •Embeds in the intelligence apparatus; •Lawfare allies -inside and outside government- constructing the narrative for media absorption and distribution; and •politicians working to utilize their constructs.

Now, remember, the Lawfare Alliance is quite smart, they purposefully use the intelligence apparatus as part of the constructed narrative because the intelligence aspect itself can act as a shield.

You might remember when Adam Schiff was making claims in 2017 about the ‘highly classified’ FISA application used against Carter Page?

As the HPSCI ranking member Adam Schiff was saying in 2017 the ‘Steele Dossier’ was not the structural evidence underlying the application (it was).  However, Schiff knew: (A) the application was hidden by its classified status; and (B) if the application did ever become public in 2018, his allied media would never hold him accountable for the 2017 lies.

When the FISA application was ultimately released, albeit in redacted form (Aug ’18), the Steele Dossier was the structural underpinning for it; yet Adam Schiff was never held accountable for the fraudulent content in the House Minority Intelligence Report.

Fast forward to 2019 and overlay this Trump/Ukraine story and what you will immediately notice is an almost identical deployment of the same playbook.

♦Obstruction 1.0 (2016 original version): Source for Obstruction narrative, Chris Steele.
♦Obstruction 2.0 (2019 Ukraine version): Source for Obstruction narrative, an unnamed “Whistle-Blower”.

♦Obstruction 1.0: Tool for Obstruction narrative, Steele Dossier.
♦Obstruction 2.0: Tool for Obstruction narrative, Whistle-Blower Complaint.

♦Obstruction 1.0: The impediment to Obstruction narrative advancement (a needed special counsel) was AG Jeff Sessions.  Solution was to force recusal.
♦Obstruction 2.0: The impediment to Obstruction narrative advancement is current Acting DNI Joseph McGuire.  Solution ongoing, hence call him before HPSCI.

[IMHO The House Intelligence Committee will likely attempt some recusal process against Joseph McGuire.  Also, if you accept this Ukraine angle was planned to roll-out, it is almost certain to explain why Schiff and the Democrats were desperately demanding the appointment of Sue Gordon.  They’ve had this operation in the works for weeks.]

♦Obstruction 1.0: narrative exploitation needed a Special Counsel investigation.
♦Obstruction 2.0: narrative exploitation now needs HPSCI investigation.

It doesn’t matter that the underlying premise is false. What matters is the ability of Schiff and team -including media- to create the illusion of possibility within their premise:

♦Obstruction 1.0: Obstruction narrative needed the premise Trump worked with the Russians etc.
♦Obstruction 2.0: Obstruction narrative needs the premise Trump worked with (pressured) the Ukranians.

Once Schiff/Lawfare create the premise and cement a false narrative; then all efforts shift to taking aggressive measures to bait President Trump into taking action that would lead to the charge of obstruction:

♦Obstruction 1.0: Obstruction narrative mostly based on Trump firing James Comey.
♦Obstruction 2.0: Obstruction narrative will advance by baiting Trump to remove Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG).

It should be emphasized the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community; the guy who accepted the ridiculous premise of a hearsay ‘whistle-blower‘ complaint, who was “blowing-the-whistle” based on second hand information of a phone call without any direct personal knowledge, is Michael K. Atkinson.

Atkinson’s self-interest:  Michael K Atkinson was previously the Senior Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General of the National Security Division of the Department of Justice (DOJ-NSD). That makes Atkinson senior legal counsel to John Carlin and Mary McCord who were former heads of the DOJ-NSD in 2016 when the stop Trump operation was underway.

[Irony Reminder: The DOJ-NSD was purposefully under no IG oversight. In 2015 the OIG requested oversight and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58 page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.]

Put another way, Michael Atkinson was the lawyer for the same DOJ-NSD players who: (1) lied to the FISA court (Judge Rosemary Collyer) about the 80% non compliant NSA database abuse using FBI contractors; (2) filed the FISA application against Carter Page; and (3) used FARA violations as tools for political surveillance and political targeting.

Yes, that means Michael Atkinson was Senior Counsel for the DOJ-NSD, at the very epicenter of the political weaponization and FISA abuse.

Immediately after the Carter Page FISA warrant is approved, in the period where DOJ-NSD head John Carlin has given his notice of intent to leave but not yet left, inside those specific two weeks, the National Security Division of the DOJ tells the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) they have been breaking the law.  The NSD specifically inform the court they are aware of contractors who have been using FISA 702(16)(17) database search queries to extract information on political candidates.

DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz has looked into the FISA application used against U.S. Person Carter Page.  Additionally, U.S. Attorney John Durham is said to be looking at the intelligence communities’ use of systems for spying and surveillance.

If the DOJ-NSD exploitation of the NSA database, and/or DOJ-NSD FISA abuse, and/or DOJ-NSD FARA corruption were ever to reach sunlight, Atkinson -as the lawyer for the process- would be under a lot of scrutiny for his involvement.

Yes, that gives current ICIG Michael Atkinson a strong and corrupt motive to participate with the Schiff/Lawfare impeachment objective.

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If you stand back and look at the big picture, what becomes visible is the purpose for this 2019 Adam Schiff Ukraine Whistle-blower narrative to create the same situation previously used in 2016/2017 to generate Trump impeachment by obstruction.

It is an almost identical playbook.

Meanwhile…

 

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464 Responses to It’s Deja-Vu All Over Again – The Ukraine Effort is Simply “Obstruction 2.0″…

  1. pucecatt says:

    My thoughts exactly , they have now begun foreign interference 2.0 .. it is shameful and another goal of theirs is to hamstring our President from having PRIVATE conversations with other foreign leaders .. this just makes me sick ..

    Liked by 28 people

    • J.Thomas says:

      I think that this is the Democrats’ way to make the call public, to disclose the thinking of Ukranian prosecutors so that everyone can get their stories straight and prepare.

      Liked by 1 person

      • bertdilbert says:

        I think the democrats have to bomb Biden fast so when he drops out he is not the “democrat frontrunner”. Biden’s video confession looks to me to be enough evidence to torpedo him. Obama is probably packing his emergency flight bag….

        Liked by 5 people

        • tucker7518 says:

          The whistleblower is getting rid of Biden.

          Liked by 4 people

          • Bill Durham says:

            These beta cucks don’t realize the story has no tractIon. Trump talked to Ukraine about Biden doing corrupt sh1t . And the problem? Obama talked to everyone about Trump.

            Liked by 3 people

          • Raptors2020 says:

            No. They’re actually trying to protect Biden. The Democrats always accuse you of what they’re guilty of doing. But Sundance is brilliant: it’s Obstruction 2.0. The Intelligence Inspector General deserves to be fired for treating a rumor-monger as a whistle-blower (more Mamet Rule – playing stupid?) ; but if Trump fires him, it’s obstruction: grounds to impeach.

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            • 🍺Gunny66 says:

              The President should get rid of Barr now…..before any investigation is started.

              Or else, Barr is in it for the long haul….just like Sessions was….doing nothing….and if fired during an investigation…….Obstruction….

              Question: Would any of the above not hold true?…….

              I’m not a lawyer, but pretend to be one on TV.

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              • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

                The President should get rid of Barr now…Or else, Barr is in it for the long haul….just like Sessions was….doing nothing….

                Gunny…
                Understand your frustration…..but there is literally no proof that any of this is true.

                If Barr’s goal was indeed to do nothing..
                Why did he shut down Mueller, instead of letting him keep collecting “obstruction” episodes
                and whatever else
                with a bagpipe accompaniment?
                He even could be adding this latest Ukrainian thing to Mueller’s mandate.

                Check that:
                RR had already given Mueller Ukrainian mandate in his AUG 2 scope memo.

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                • 🍺Gunny66 says:

                  Krashman,

                  Thanks…..you are correct….just do not want two more years of this stuff….

                  But, to me Barr still has not been up against the wall…I.E. Choice…..

                  Barr and his institution or……..the rule of law…

                  We will see….

                  Thanks again for your post..

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                • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

                  I always enjoy your input Gunny
                  and mean no disrespect.

                  IMO there were certain things already in motion before Barr that have to be allowed to resolve

                  The SCO was one.
                  The Mueller Report/testimony was another.
                  The last is the FISA Abuse report…..an investigation that was ongoing and Barr had no part in initiating.
                  IOW: He’s clean on this.

                  We have become tainted- particularly over the last 3 years-by what “investigations” look like.

                  Bombshells, Leaks, & Unmaskings
                  ARE NOT HOW THEY ARE DONE.
                  Silence is.
                  What we have been subjected to is
                  how FAKE ones are done.

                  And now we are filling that uncomfortable silence with our anxieties and past experiences.

                  Barr requested DECLASS authority and appointed his own Special Counsel outside of DC.

                  Yes we can interpret that as a FIXER operation
                  but
                  we can equally interpret that as a SWAMP workaround.
                  And actually if I was trying to clean this up and hold people accountable
                  I can’t think of a better way to do it.
                  Can you?

                  If Barr randomly declassifed documents and released them out in the wild…..
                  on their own
                  where they will simply be dispatched with….like Nunes Memo was.
                  I would be much more concerned.

                  I can wait another month to find out.

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            • distracted2 says:

              But the unintended consequences – or, for some, the intended consequences – will take Biden out of the race. Either way, it’s a boomerang headed right for Biden.

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      • I think this is also intimidation of the new Ukraine President.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      I don’t see how this becomes obstruction. The President has no reason to obstruct exposure of Biden. It was a legit phone call with Ukraine. The public might have had reason to believe the Russian story.

      Secondly, any time the press brings it up, Trump will just beat Biden and Obama over and over. This story has no traction potential.

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  2. Nigella says:

    And I expect this to turn out just as well as Russia,Russia, Russia…

    Liked by 13 people

    • Republicanvet91 says:

      I expect things will turn out to be a flop much faster than the Muh Russia! hoax.

      The swamp in the DOJ would have to convince Barr to recuse, with someone recommending another Special Counsel.

      Liked by 8 people

      • Sherri Young says:

        Barr will not recuse. No way. Unless he has a true conflict such as having represented the nation of Ukraine at some point.

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          Sherri it’s not Barr recusal they’re after….
          it’s Trump’s Acting DNI, who didn’t pass on the the whistleblower allegation.

          With Coats/Gordon gone they’ve somewhat lost control of ODNI.
          (Re: John Ratcliffe)

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          • Sherri Young says:

            Agreed. Barr is not the whole enchilada, but I was replying to a comment about making Barr recuse.

            The ODNI truly is a great big deal. Atkinson has the pedigree of someone problematic.

            People keep expecting a sudden draining of the swamp. The process actually has been more akin to skimming off the scum. Atkinson now has gained attention.

            IMO, one more person at the FBI who needs a light shown on her is Sally Moyer. She must not be SES. Apparently there is a common practice at DOJ/FBI of not revealing the names of non-SES individuals. I think IG Horowitz even mentioned such in the hearing last week. Since she is un-named, she dwells right below the surface where she is not noticed.

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            • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

              Atkinson has the pedigree of someone problematic.
              So who recommended his appointment?

              It’s truly amazing the secret passages in the Swamp that can allow Atkinson to slither directly from his job at DOJ-NSD to the IG for the entire IC.
              Or Dana Boente’s movements for that matter

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      • I think what most are NOT realizing is the following:
        1. Every time one of these cretins raises it’s swamp head it LEADS back to DOJ
        2. DOJ is the epicenter of all of the collusion
        3. Once the above is accepted then, and only then, the SSCI becomes more in-focus
        4. WHO ON THE SSCI IS DOING THE DIRECTING? Remember: there always has to be a director(s)…
        5. Schiff is up to his eyeballs in this and there is no way out for him!!!

        Ergo: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/

        Reminder: When all of this started, Sundance pointed out that this lively bunch of cretins and nothing has changed!!!!

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        • 🍺Gunny66 says:

          Eagledriver,

          Agree completely..
          The DOJ has always had the Mantra of:

          Presidents come and go, but “We”…will still be here when they are gone and must maintain a steady course……Pfffft

          That being….”Control”….The DOJ is so infected with “sycophancy” that “anyone” who has worked there is infected.

          As I stated above, the President should fire Barr now….before any investigation begins…or once started …or Barr recuses…he is stuck with him….

          Of course the problem with that being, getting another AG approved by the Senate and who would be in charge if Barr is fired.

          So, this is the true test for Barr. Is he loyal to the President or to his “institution?”
          I.E. “President’s come and go”

          Rudy, Stephen Miller, hell…put Rick Perry in for AG….

          But…again….I am not a lawyer…….but can smell BS from very far away….

          Oh yeah….

          Sundance….
          Good work….push this one hard…..get it out there so we get solid “voices” and outrage on them starting this crap again…

          Thanks

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          • Dixie says:

            Gunny, The deadliest words I ever heard….”Don’t start this again.” Depending on one’s perspective, strikes fear in the heart and a fire in the belly.

            …….And Sundance is a genius.

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      • distracted2 says:

        Yes, especially because the so-called whistleblower isn’t a whistleblower at all. This person evidently wasn’t even involved so is not covered under the whistleblower protections. It wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out this person is Blasey-Ford 2.0 – in other words, a complete fraud.

        Schiff has cried wolf one too many times so no one is paying attention to him.

        And if Biden wants to remain in the presidential race, some very powerful people are going to want this to just go away sooner rather than later.

        I give it to the end of the week, at the latest.

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  3. jrapdx says:

    So are we to assume President Trump—who is the target of Schiff’s delusions—has no idea what Schiffy is up to and is incapable of mounting a defense? How many times have we been at such a juncture? More than a few, yet the President has managed to prevail. What prevents that from happening again? I have been impressed with the outcomes as his opponents have rather consistently underestimated his resources and resourcefulness. On that basis I’d predict he’ll prevail this time as well, but I suppose nothing’s guaranteed. We’ll just have to see what happens.

    Liked by 21 people

    • swimeasy says:

      If obstruction 1.0 was going so well, why would they need to even start an obstruction 2.0. So go ahead, run the same playbook and hope for a different result.

      Liked by 6 people

      • jrapdx says:

        Yup, that’s what it sure sounds like. A big difference is the absence of an SC to exude drama and threat. And I bet no one is going to take the bait to “recuse” themselves this time around.

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    • old45model says:

      There is always the possibility that Schiff has done some naughty things in the past – and there is always the possibility that the President is fully aware of such nefarious activities – so it wouldn’t surprise me greatly if, one fine day, Schiff were suddenly to be in the ‘news’.

      Liked by 6 people

      • jrapdx says:

        Could be, but like the President, Schiff has probably been in the public eye long enough to have shaken out significantly “nasty” business.

        Chances are PT and allies will once again humiliate the Democrats, show how utterly foolish and desperate they are to stick something, no matter how trivial, on the President.

        Alas such absurd Democrat games are what passes for entertainment in the last months of 2019….

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      • fred5678 says:

        Is this naughty enough ??

        Liked by 7 people

    • carterzest says:

      JRA, waiting is fun….
      😉

      Liked by 1 person

  4. MM says:

    The picture of AG Barr Sundance posted with this story cracks me up…

    Liked by 9 people

    • Yeah, because it’s just so god damned funny that we have no representation and an evil group of corrupt globalist tools interfering in MAGA while Barr bagpipes rather than declass.

      Hilarious.

      SMH

      Liked by 4 people

      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        What the hell good would a declass do on it’s own without an accompanying criminal indictment?

        There is literally a video of Joe Biden BRAGGING about bribing the Ukranian President.
        Rudy Guiliani listed the extensive nature of the EVIDENCE he has collected and how big this all is. (Oh and I’m sure he hasn’t bothered to turn that over to Barr and Durham)/s

        And all the media/Dems/RINOs want to talk about is

        Trump colluding with Ukranians to get “dirt” on his political rivals.

        Can someone please FOR ONCE explain how randomly declassifying documents
        THAT WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY’LL SHOW and have for over a year

        will somehow get some magical new result?

        If the answer is just so we here can all say “See….I TOLD YOU SO!”
        That’s not good enough.

        Unless someone can specifically explain how this will benefit Trump…..or ANYONE….
        it seems it’s just
        pissin in a hurricane to me.

        I don’t give 2 sh*ts about Barr’s damn bagpipes…..
        he can pipe away all he wants…….as long as it’s a Scottish Battle tune and
        followed by real results.

        And if he doesn’t give it to us…….then we’ll see what POTUS does.

        I’m sorry but this “Barr is doing nothing” meme is no different than the
        MSM telling us for 2 years that impeachment was inevitable.
        And is indication of
        How well we’ve been trained.

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    • Michael Kunz says:

      Certainly starting to appear to be all wind and bagpipes.Hope I’m wrong.

      Liked by 6 people

    • Doppler says:

      🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎵🎵

      Liked by 3 people

    • Bagpipes billy. Sheesh. AG is a joke.

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      I see nothing cute or funny about it. It’s a derogatory pictorial judgment. I don’t like it. Considering that all the reports are not out and investigations are ongoing, it’s a bit premature to jump to conclusions.

      Liked by 6 people

      • jonhabart says:

        My thoughts exactly.

        I really don’t understand why Attorney General William Barr has be the target of so much vitriol and accusations of being a do-nothing swamp-guardian.

        Barr stood up strong on the Mueller Report, resisted several attempts by the left to misrepresent the findings of the investigation and forced corrective press statements when false assertions and ambiguous statements were made.

        He has initiated several investigations and appointed serious investigators to lead them.

        Every speech, interview, and other public comments have been consistent with his stated objectives and those of President Trump.

        Aside from the small minority of voices on the right who have maintained a state of heightened anxiety and frustration for the past 1-2 years because of the perception that zero action has been taken to hold the corrupt DOJ, FBI, & IC officials, that still remain at the center and subject of ongoing investigations, along with members of the Obama Administration accountable for their many subversive and destructive actions against the American people, our government institutions, the Constitution and our nation as a whole.

        I just can’t wrap my head around some of the comments coming from these people. Even in this comment section we have people buying into the many memes that Sundance has created by saying things like:

        “Yeah, because it’s just so god damned funny that we have no representation and an evil group of corrupt globalist tools interfering in MAGA while Barr bagpipes rather than declass.

        Hilarious.

        SMH”

        There are no facts that support this opinion, only the portrayal of a persistent caricature propagated thru the use of petty and snarky memes fueled by the inability of some to control their emotions.

        Until there is sound reason to believe otherwise I’m going to have to agree with Congressman Jim Jordan and “Thank God for Bill Barr”

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        • ms doodlebug says:

          Even CTH gets trolled and some seem to be of the ‘pacifer generation’ where a pacifier was stuck in their mouth for immediate gratification when they cried. It seems anyone with common sense would know this is not something that can be documented and exposed overnight.

          (Thanks for the thoughtful and sensible response. It helps restore my confidence that common sense is still ‘a thing’.)

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      • railer says:

        Of course it’s derogatory. Barr is Deep State and a pure Swamp creature, of the Bushie tribe. He’s done nothing of consequence, besides fulfill his agreement to get rid of Mueller, without which Trump would never have nominated him for the AG job. Now he and the Swamp are angling for another special prosecutor to be appointed. Watch.

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      • HB says:

        When will maturity be? 10 more years? If he doesn’t like to be made fun, then he can either grow thicker skin, or get the ball rolling.

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        • ms doodlebug says:

          I’ve wondered the same thing about democrats. When are they going to grow up and face the reality that PDJT is the best President we’ve had in decades?

          Congress is the least respected branch of our government with the lowest job approval rating for a reason. They’re like toddlers throwing a temper tantrum because they didn’t get what thy wanted.

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      • madeline says:

        I think that’s the point doodlebug. “Considering that all the reports are not out and investigations are ongoing,… I’m not sure what a doodlebug is but it might even be a good caption for the Barr picture.

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        • ms doodlebug says:

          The ‘reporting’ is that Mueller wasted $30-40 million and well over two years total (including the FBI investigation he took over) investigating PDJT – to find nothing.

          A doodlebug can be whatever you want it to be, a bug, a comedy drama, or something that goes boom. As the old folks say, it can be whatever trips your trigger.

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  5. Genie says:

    PDJT, like the Roadrunner, knows how to step around Wile E. Coyote’s ACME traps by now.

    Liked by 12 people

    • It would be nice if this were a trap set by the Roadrunner…

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      • Blind no longer says:

        Yes it is a very real possibility! If this is all second hand hear say information, that still means this faux whistle blower had to get their information from someone in the intelligence service who was listening to President Trump’s phone call and discussed/leaked/plotted to get this to Schitt for brains.

        Boomerang headed your way Mr. ICIG…it won’t be pretty either.

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      • tozerbgood8315 says:

        This was my thought as well, especially after seeing that whistle blower report based on hearsay, and Ukrainian Gov’t backs up Trump’s version of events.

        Hypothetical:
        What if the WH knew about the anti-Trump sentiments of this person (that is currently known as the “Whistle Blower”), and had someone leak to this person about Trump’s phone call… and then encourage speculation with that person about the possibility of Trump making “promises”. And that person filed a whistle blower complaint, just as the WH expected.

        And the left fell right into the trap.

        Pure diabolical speculation of course… LOL

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        • livefreeordieguy says:

          That’s a “canary trap” which I’m told is a method used to “out” leakers… Seems unlikely in this case because of the “obstruction” roadmap Sundance has laid out, but it would be nice…

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  6. Tiffthis says:

    WTH? This really needs to stop- America hates this type of BS- VSGPDJT needs not answer any press questions on any international phone calls- it’s always a trap

    Liked by 12 people

    • The Devilbat says:

      Beep beep!!!

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    • Yep, something’s got to give, I don’t see how we can handle 3 moar years of globalist corruptocrat/rino interference while enemedia spreads the bullsh!t narrative that President Trump is a “criminal” occupying the White House.

      It’s definitely Twilight Zone living in America right now.

      Full faith in our VSG President though, not going to “worry”, it does nothing productive!
      I’ll join anyone in being sick of it though, because I damn sure am.

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    • Raptors2020 says:

      The bureaucracy is packed with Democrat spies: the Resistance.

      Another feature of the Russian Collusion hoax was the whispering campaign within the new media throughout the fall of 2016. They all knew it was coming, including Never-Trumper Kristoll. Have there been hints the last few weeks? Did anybody see them, can anybody find them?

      They have to hit the ground running with their propaganda campaigns: the volume compensates for the poor quality of the evidence.

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    • Bubby says:

      Tiffthis exactly! If the conversation is released it doesn’t matter what President Trump said in it at all it will be twisted and used as evidence supporting the msm narrative! Just like when he joked about asking Russia for Hillary’s emails that is still being used as evidence of his collusion with Russians. These Democrats and msm are lunatics totally unhinged! Godspeed President Trump!

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  7. A2 says:

    ‘the first concrete evidence of “warpipes” being used in their traditional role on the battlefield comes from writings about the Battle of North Inch in 1396. This early association with the military has always stayed with the bagpipes; their penetrating notes were used to unsettle the enemy, and communicate with allies’

    👍😲

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  8. Bogeyfree says:

    How is AG Barr not totally embarrassed and outraged by all of this?

    We have……..

    An unsecured server with thousands of government emails

    Destroying of government emails

    Destroying of government issued property

    Thousands of government emails found on a civilian laptop

    A known bogus Dossier

    A Dossier feed purposely backdoor into the government

    A bogus Dossier used to secure multiple FISA warrants

    A audit which finds 85% of FISA warrants in a 6 month period are not compliant

    A bias group of investigators

    Lost investigative evidence

    A hacked DNC server that isn’t confiscated or tested via government forensics

    Massive government leaking to the media

    Alleged foreign agents who were known western agents all along

    Framing and setting up individuals within the administration

    a Uranium 1 Whistleblower no one seems to talks with

    And now this – Attempt at frame job #2

    All for the single purpose IMO to cause INTENDED harm to a sitting President of the United States.

    How much of this crap do the American people have to stomach until the rule of law for all is upheld?

    How much more BS is it going to take to see some action by those sworn to uphold the laws of this land?

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    • Julian says:

      Have some patience man. Barr has only been in there for six months or so you know.

      Liked by 5 people

      • farrier105 says:

        At the average of 1.7 indictments every month, Mueller would have had 10.2 indictments in 6 months. We did get a couple of declinations on Comey and another 6 months of handwringing about what to do about Andrew McCabe for a grand total of 18 months of handwringing.

        I’m satisfied.

        The Comey declination followed the pattern of the Hillary “email” exoneration. The prosecutor hangs everything on the Espionage Act, a statute with which the Judiciary is not enamored and is not enforced strictly in civilian law the way it is in military law. Meanwhile, there were statutes under which Comey would have easily been:

        1. Indicted
        2. Convicted

        The trick: Use the wrong statute to determine the efficacy of a prosecution and hope nobody looks up a statute with elements that intersect with the facts of the case.

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  9. So if the small group got RICO’d, then that would include Michael Atkinson, right? (My God why do we still have so many treasonous Obama-holdovers!!!!!)

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    • Remington says:

      Cheer….one hell of a question. I constantly marvel at the depth of such in the swamp. It’s a bottomless pit that needs to be sorted. Way past time to break out the guillotine.

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  10. IOENO says:

    I saw a different thread on here a while back WRT bagpipes, if you don’t learn history you are doomed to repeat it.
    Bagpipes – An Instrument of War?
    https://learn.dojouniversity.com/bagpipes-an-instrument-of-war/

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    • California Joe says:

      Bagpipes at with the British Army for 250 years!

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      • Michael Kunz says:

        As a Senior NCO, stationed in Belze, in the 70’s, we had the Britsh Forces Combined services together for a game of Soccer against the Belizean National team. The Massed pipes of the Argylll and Sutherlands introduced the match with ‘Dark Isle’. Don’t know what effect it had on the Belizeans, but Combined services won, 5-0. Certainly makes the hair on the back of your head stand up, stirring stuff, if you’re on the right side.

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    • The Devilbat says:

      My grandfather fought in the British army in WWI (1914 – 1918). I remember as a small child his telling my parents that the Scottish battalions were feared by the Germans more than anything else. This was because the Scotts took no prisoners. They simply slaughtered all enemy combatants.

      Grandad said that one German prisoner he and his fellow English soldiers captured referred to the kilt wearing, bagpipe playing scotts as “the ladies from Hell” and went on to say that the German soldiers would be scared to death whenever they heard bagpipes.

      My grandfather was badly wounded at the battle of the Somme and received an honorable discharge in 1917. We still have his medals.

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  11. Elric VIII says:

    If these Deep State and Lawfare machinations are visible to the general public (at least to those who are paying attention), what does that say about our federal justice system? And how can the citizenry ensure that the Justice Department is operating as it should, blind to partisanship and influence? The situation does not seem to be improving, and there are very few options left open.

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  12. gda53 says:

    The difference being that there is an actual, real AG in charge of the DOJ now (who can actually play bagpipes, handle the scandal and rebuff Schiff, all with one hand tied behind his back) and not a Rosenstein. Hence you can go fly a kite Mr. Schiff.

    Incidentally, Rudy was incandescent on Fox today. John Roberts was unable to maintain his talking points narrative. . Not sure if what he said was new information, but it sure shut Roberts up.

    Surprised I have not seen that commented on here (I may have missed it)

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  13. no-nonsense-nancy says:

    Different obstruction. same group of criminals. Wash, rinse, repeat.
    Thank you, SD, for another brilliant analysis.

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  14. vikingmom says:

    Is it time for an Oval Office address from the President to the American Public explaining IN DETAIL the entire conspiracy? Could the networks be conned into carrying it with a false premise so that they couldn’t all go dark once it started? And could US Marshals or the US Military simultaneously be arresting the main plotters of the coup while the address is being telecast?

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    • It could. But… do we really see the likes of that happening now, at this time? Going to have to trust President Trump on timing of anything of the sort… I reckon.

      I looked at Bogeyfree’s list above and thought of all the globalist warring going on against We The People to it in my mind as there isn’t enough bandwidth to write it all here… it’s immense in scope and evil in nature, from the fed to the extortion of our property that is used to finance the destruction of our nation, and our very lives, and back around to the insane act of “legalizing” the killing of the only innocent Americans to exist, in the womb.

      Term Two. It has to happen and there must be a severe Reckoning. I’m positive President Trump knows this and it is the reason he became President.

      The waiting is the hardest part.

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  15. California Joe says:

    What’s is typical is IG Atkinson totally overlooks Vice President Biden shaking down Ukraine by extortion and threatening to withhold $1 billion in aide unless the prosecutor investigating Hunter Biden was fired. Atkinson was not outraged about that or the highest ranking officials in the DOJ, FBI and CIA using false evidence to obtain FISA warrants, unmasking hundreds of innocent Americans and attempting to frame the President of the United States and his family members for a crime he that not only didn’t commit but a crime that never even happened. Why isn’t IG Atkinson investigating any of that? President Trump should fire the guy immediately after the 2020 election along with two incompetents….Wray and Powell!

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    • jx says:

      Biden’s corruption is so glaringly obvious it can’t be ignored. His bragging about bribing Ukraine with our money is now very well known. Atkinson’s nonfeasance might not stand the sunlight and he will be destroyed.

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    • Bubby says:

      Cali Joe Amen! Now I know how so many in Congress become millionaires! Whenever our foreign aid/ loans whatever the Federal financial assistance is given someone in Congress or someone in their family connected to that legislation get a kick back from the receiving corrupt country. Corruption is the game being played. No different than Hillary’s pay to play but that idiot Joe Biden bragged about for all to hear! Congress/DC is totally corrupt!

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  16. Wynston says:

    The deep state knows the best defense is offense. I’m so ready for the takedown.

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  17. jus wundrin says:

    Hey dems, is protecting hilly and 0Bomba really worth it, or is the evidence of corruption and sick behavior that they have on you enough to fill a library?

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  18. This is brilliant and I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to keep up with everything, remember everything and diligently remind us of everything.

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  19. The thing is, if someone isn’t held accountable soon, this will just continue. I mean, this is the crowd that implied Scalia’s death was a murder and they were not too upset.

    Podesta: “I didn’t think ‘wet-works’ meant pool parties in the vineyard.”

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  20. Republicanvet91 says:

    “Yes, that means Michael Atkinson was Senior Counsel for the DOJ-NSD, at the very epicenter of the political weaponization and FISA abuse.”

    I’m sure Adam Schiffon is well aware of who the swamp rats are, who could be useful in various situations, and what could be used to encourage their participation.

    Let him have his little hearing. Our side would be able to ask some embarrassing questions.

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  21. Conservative Foundations says:

    Unfortunately I think that there is going to only one way to drain and clean the swamp. The hard way. I

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  22. The Boss says:

    I’ve been wondering all week.
    Who recommended Atkinson to Trump?
    Perhaps Sen. John McCain 2.0?

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    • meow4me2 says:

      Boss, I’m thinking Atkinson was recommended by DNI Dan Coats based on the recommendation of his deputy Sue Gordon. I highly doubt the President would get involved in personnel appointments at that level. He’d be likely to accept the head guy’s recommendation.

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  23. Revenant says:

    Consider also whether this is a means to force pressure on Barr NOT to declassify documents. (The declassification may be blown up into some kind of obstruction/intimidation of the Intelligence Community).

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  24. Austin Holdout says:

    The cabal didn’t succeed with Obstruction 1.0 because the President was within his rights to fire Comey. It seems like he would be within his rights to fire Atkinson as well. If he found there was cause to fire Atkinson, doesn’t that make Atkinson potentially criminally liable and (with all of the inside info he has) a risk of revealing what he knows to avoid criminal liability. And firing Atkinson would eliminate a high ranking IC person with Obama loyalty who would no longer be able to monitor what’s going on in his neck of the IC for the cabal. And would open his position to a Trump loyalist.

    I’m just trying to think like an evil cabal member. Maybe they’ll try to keep the impeachment dream going on the basis of the contents of the phone call and if that doesn’t work, try to manufacture another obstruction scenario.

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    • johnnyfandango says:

      At least the ”Resistance” hold overs are exposing themselves every day. The admin has to do something about it and hopefully they getting warrants on them, wiretapping them, seizing their hardware then either start charging these people or fire them.

      Regarding Biden. When Sally Yikes made such a big deal during her testimony about the Logan act with that smirk on her face and cutie southern drawl. Why isn’t the same issue hold true for Biden. Here he is assisting his son pad his bank account. A no talent addict who is getting 100’s of thousands maybe be Millions of dollars funneled to a bank account based on his fathers influence and threats. Don’t you think these Governments could black mail Biden based on these payments, well Sally Yikes? Why don’t you come out of hiding with that smirk and explain that.

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  25. Trey Miller says:

    God called Donald Trump to the presidency, as he called Moses, Noah, and David to lead His people. Our Father is guiding him to restore our Christian nation. Have faith in Him and our president. God is in control & has His hands on President Trump.

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  26. no-nonsense-nancy says:

    IOENO, thank you for the history lesson on bagpipes. It gives me a different perspective on AG Bill Barr. He can be the instrument to bring down the deep state plotters against PT of he wants to. Now when I see him in the pic playing the bagpipes I see him going to war against these evil doers. Is it just a coincidence that he plays them? God works in mysterious ways.

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  27. Cam Heck says:

    So this is their best shot at Obstruction 2.0- as story that bring’s to light that Joe Biden held up the Ukraine to protect his prodigal son? Obviously, desperate times….

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  28. Chieftain says:

    Perhaps his conflicts should cause Atkinson to be recused. The GOP ought to demand that, no? Perhaps call him before a hearing in the Senate to probe his conflicts.
    Just like the Democrats have demanded recusal, so should the GOP.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Chieftain,
      Just my opinion, but REALLY?
      “The GOP ought to,..”
      The GOP is fully on board, and at the HEART of the sloppy soft coup attempt.

      They are behind the continueing cover up of the coup. Oherwise they would have hearing after hearing in the,Senate, and in the House would have supported Nunes, instead of running a trumped up ethics investigation, forcing him to step aside, putting cleaner Gowdy in charge, and the gift wrapping the gavel for Pelosi, and beating a hasty retreat out of town AND the limelight.

      UNIPARTY, and the entrance initiation is to be corrupt.

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      • Redzone says:

        The Ukraine set up is an attempt to give CPR to the Impeachment narrative. Impeachment only happens if McConnell pulls the votes. McConnell continually demonstrates his power by having EVERY Rep Senator vote repeatedly to block PT from making recess appointments.

        Until something is done to remediate some of McConnell’s power, the Deep State will never stop.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Agree, except; just as our Costitution has a ‘line of succession’, so does the Uniparty.
          There not STUPID, after all. Ryan leaves, McCarthy takes his place; same old wine/ brand new bottle.

          Guaranteed if McConnell were to drop dead tomorrow, his replacement is all ready to step in.
          Look at Harry Reid, as well. The whole leadership of both parties needs to be tarred with scandal, simultaneously, and forced to resign under a cloud of corruption, if not indictment.

          Actually, prosecuting the active coupists, with significant prison time would flip some, and they would name names.
          THAT could DO it, which is why there is so much pressure to protect the actives.
          So, that could be the ‘way to go’ after 2020.

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  29. carterzest says:

    This #BYTHEBOOK BS is getting 💤 and all too predictable…

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  30. redline says:

    Maybe it’s just me, but there’s another name I’m expecting to outgas its way to the surface of this particular honeybucket – David Laufman.
    He hasn’t yet directly broken the surface. Yet. But I bet he will.

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  31. mtk says:

    All this may true in regards to Obstruction 2.0.
    However, IMHO the goal here to muck up the roll out of Horowitz FISA report, to such extent that after all is said and done, the Horowitz report won’t be worth the paper it was printed on.

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    • Lester Smith says:

      Trump needs to do a joint release agreement with Ukraine president to release transcripts. A joint press conference with questions and answers. You are trying to use this as see know one can trust trump. He keeps records from us and blocks witnesses. The dems will play what’s he hiding BS. Trump needs to take them out fast. Let them call other world leaders liers. Their crazy Biden is just an old crooked fool.if Obama thinks he is safe he better think again. The libartards will take him out if it means taking control. These old dems think their are encharge, right the only thing their encharge of is maybe the keys to the bath room. It’s going to come down to old guard dems and socialist dems war. Nancy their coming for you better lay off the bottle. Trump will win but the country is being torn apart by all the dems and rinos crap. MIT Rongnee sure pulled his knife out fast p.o.s what a low life. Fox Weekend tool crew what a joke. John Roberts what you did replacing Mr peebody was the final straw. OAN see you tomorrow fox maybe at prime time. Fox day time are sell outs.

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  32. US says:

    This is a weak line of attack because the übercorrupt country of The Ukraine used the CIA/DoS Maidan Revolution money to purchase a US war against Russia so the precious Ukrainian Catholics did not s
    Pend their own blood fighting the Orthodox Christians of the Donbas and Crimea. I was all brewed at the Ukrainian Embassy in DC by Alexandra Chalupa, a Hillary Ukrainian agent. No more help for Ukrainian plotters that thought nothing of bringing down Paul Manafort who was our campaign manager. Ukraine should be rewarded by being placed under the protection of Germany and France. Not our problem except for what they did during the 2016 election.

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  33. geoffcsaltine says:

    Immediately after the Carter Page FISA warrant is approved,… in the period where DOJ-NSD head John Carlin has given his notice of intent to leave, but not yet left… Inside those specific two weeks, the National Security Division of the DOJ tells the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) they have been breaking the law; and the NSD specifically informs the court they have been using FISA applications to spy on their domestic political opposition.

    If the DOJ-NSD FISA abuse and/or FARA corruption were ever to reach sunlight, Atkinson -as the lawyer for the process- would be under a lot of scrutiny for his involvement. Yes, that gives current ICIG Michael Atkinson a strong and corrupt motive to participate with the Lawfare objective.

    It look like they are trying to get P.Trump to tip his hand and release information before he and it is ready to be made public.
    The FISA report is coming soon, lets hope after that P.Trump can share some of the hidden reports that we all want and need to see.

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  34. Bill says:

    Wonder if mysterious whistleblower is Blasey Ford’s cousin?

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    • stephen fenlon says:

      I have two suspects in my head
      considering the “whistle blower” did not here the phone conversation first hand
      that it was not part of their operational duties
      that the incident occurred in July

      either
      Sue Gordon
      or
      The previous US Ambassador in Ukraine, (forget her name), who stymied all the efforts of the Ukraine Govt. to get US Visas to hand over information on election interference from 2016. She was replaced this year if I remember correctly.

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  35. Aintree says:

    “Michael K Atkinson was previously the Senior Counsel to…John Carlin and Mary McCord at the DOJ-NSD in 2016.”

    Who advised POTUS to nominate Atkinson to the Intel IG position in May 2018? If the Intel community isn’t purged completely of its Coup related or linked people why is it surprising that these anti Trump leaks and ‘scandals” are so easily and constantly crafted for the receptive corrupt media?

    Releasing the relevant sections of the transcript to the public with Ukrainian approval would greatly help in killing this hoax about a Quid pro Quo arrangement and any other “illegalities” but it would also weaken the President’s powers and privacy. But not releasing the transcripts will feed the scandal.

    So, P Trump is once again in a Catch 22 that favors his enemies.

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    • Aintree says:

      Oddly: Intel IG Atkinson’s appointment in 2018 was delayed by Sens. Grassley and Wyden (D) due to “whistleblower” concerns.

      “Atkinson was voted out of the committee in February, but has seen his nomination delayed while senators tangled with the Office of the DNI over the fate of the whistleblower ombudsman’s office, from which long time occupant Dan Meyer was recently fired….
      Sens. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Ron Wyden, D-Ore., had held up Atkinson’s nomination while negotiating with DNI Dan Coats, whom they’ve asked to turn over documents on the firing of Meyer.”

      “Coats has said he supports continuing the Whistleblowing and Source Protection program, but the two senators have continued their hold on the nomination of Jason Klitenic to be the IC watchdog’s general counsel.”

      https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2018/05/intelligence-community-finally-has-confirmed-inspector-general/148224/

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  36. Harry says:

    Sundance wrote above “If you stand back and look at the big picture ..”. Are you saying the Trump admin and everyone else will have endure another investigation till election ? it is a shame that critical positions are not fully cleaned up and such garbage gets attention.

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  37. Magabear says:

    So is the so-called whistle blower none other than Michael Atkinson? Hmmm.

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  38. Echo Bravo says:

    Long time lurker, first time poster.

    Some thoughts on the overall scheme: this is incredibly risky for the Democrats for several reasons. First, the big club (in my humble opinion) prefers Biden over Warren for the following:

    1. Many of his gaffes can be spun as attributed to his age vs. malice or true flip flopping, which might endear him to boomer union democrats who would otherwise likely vote Trump.
    2. He’s controllable, as opposed to Warren, which means that Wall St. has nothing to fear, in contrast to Warren who’s flipped and flopped from semi-populism (see her book, The Two Income Trap, particularly the sections discussing single parenthood. Tucker Carlson had an excellent segment on this) to the left side of of socialism (if that actually exists). He’ll also run with whomever they decide should be VP as opposed to Warren who’ll likely make her own decision, in order to quell dissonance from the Bernie Bro’s who’ll vote for her, disgust notwithstanding. (See the WFP endorsement brouhaha)
    3. His baggage represents leverage, whereas Warren just has her ridiculous “Native American” faux status (which she used for actual material gain), and which Trump will constantly beat her over the head with handily.

    The risks to the Democrats for opening this can of worms are immense:
    1. Bidens baggage, now in the public conscience, are beginning to weigh on his polls.
    2. Any impeachment hearings will likely include testimony damaging to both Biden, but more importantly, former Obama administration officials who approved the deals and ignored the conflicts of interest.
    3. Trump could potentially trump TehResistance “whistleblower” by releasing portions of the call transcript.
    4. The entire NSC and DOS staff is now officially suspect by Trump, which means both purges and marginalization for TehResistance within both orgs. Which will ultimately seriously circumscribe Lawfare’s eyes and ears within the administration.
    5. If the worst were to come to pass, and Trump were to be impeached(Heaven Forfend), the galvanizing of the base would be like nothing the Democrats have ever seen. Impeachment already isn’t popular, except among a rather small sliver of the Democrats more extreme base. Following through would be the ultimate Gordian’s Knot for Pelosi and Co. Likely resulting in losing the 2020 House.

    TL; SR: This long shot by the Lawfare fellow travelers has a high probability of blowback, resulting in serious damage to the overall Democratic strategy on multiple fronts.

    END
    – Echo Bravo

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    • WeeWeed says:

      Welcome Echo Bravo!

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    • Redzone says:

      EB- interesting and well thought out analysis. With all the risks involved, it seems that it may be an attempt to remove the Ukraine/Biden arrow from PT’s quiver, notwithstanding the risks. This is absolutely a calculated move.

      If Biden is going to have a chance, he has to put this skeleton to rest. Of course, like all Dem moves, the timing is great for them and this dust-up will be used for many purposes.

      If Biden can’t survive it, they need to know sooner rather than later, so they can reorganize their chess pieces.

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  39. Appalled says:

    George Washington must be rolling over in his grave.

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  40. Allard Otten says:

    How about this scenario?

    Biden was always running only to take the hit for the Ukrainian scandal. He needed to be front runner and up in the polls to make any attempt to accuse him for Ukraine look like a political hit job.

    The problem was that we had peak Biden too early because they couldn’t keep him on script. This Trump story was all set up so they decided to run with it early while they could still claim Biden was the front runner. They’re counting on the MSM to carry the ball, but either the whistle blower was a Judas goat who got them to trigger too early or they are so desperate they had to take anything they could get and Schiff drew short straw.

    For some reason I don’t think the dems want Warren, either, but taking Warren out would look like a hit job from Biden and they have to keep the base locked. Another reason, if so, to pull Biden when the timing is best. Regardless of who the dems take out, it has to look like it’s Trump’s doing.

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  41. Raffaella says:

    Biden would be so easy to beat in general election (he has advanced stage Alzheimer’s, looks very old, and no serious pationate following).

    Having gone through the pain of Russia hoax, why would President Trump even bother discussing Biden with President of Ukraine? This time, President Trump is partially to blame for giving these deep state traitors another shot at getting him when they failed so miserably the first time.

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  42. A2 says:

    As for the Biden & Son Inc., the leaker elevated to a nosy parker gossiping over the water cooler sink, the only advice I, on my first foray at doing so, advise the President to adopt a Cantonese phrase every time the Dems and their puppets in the MSM perpetrate a hoax:

    砌生豬肉 Which literally means ‘ building raw pork’. What it actually means is ‘ to make accusations – usually ones that don’t have any merit. It rolls right off the tongue. To describe someone who has been accused of something without any proof, you would say that they had “had someone build their raw pork” .

    🤣👍🤣👍🤣👍

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  43. Fingolfin says:

    Sundance, who the heck in Trump DOJ allowed Michael Atkinson to become/remain an IG!? If he was placed there during the transition, why didn’t even one of the white hats make sure that he needed to be removed?!

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  44. john says:

    I just saw a news clip of SchiffforBrains saying that he has been very reluctant to go down the impeachment path. How in the hell does he say that lie with a straight face? Does he really think anyone believes that statement?

    A couple months ago I posted about my non political brother that, while conservative by nature, is too busy with his own life, job, house and family to pay much attention to politics. He has been mostly unaware of the coup attempt, He isnt any longer because of these new allegations. He is fully awake. For the first time, when I started talking politics, he didnt tell me that he didnt want to hear it.

    That is the measure of this Ukraine crap. The traitorous filth are waking more of the non political people up to their nefarious plot to overthrow a duly elected President, and to utterly destroy he and his family forever through lies and subterfuge.

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  45. Porpaganda Democrats I’m so sick and Tired of Them,
    The whistleblower is get rid of corrupt Biden,actually,

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  46. icthematrix says:

    This has all the signs of evil Lawfare strategy. I think Sundance is right, but this attempt is also designed to hold the fort against the broader role Ukraine played with Obama and the Dims on political espionage. That’s a deep well of corruption that goes back to their former leadership and Clinton/Biden/Obama. This is a major offensive to blunt the President and protect Joe. Look at today’s Fox News item, crafted like news but really an opinion piece by a Dem operative. She claims President Trumps level of dislike is ultra high via a BS poll by media. She links this to the Ukraine call. Unreal….

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-reelection-trouble-mary-anne-marsh

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  47. Pyrthroes says:

    Moriarty proposes, Holmes disposes: Quantum-physical correlation-correspondence is always preferable to politicians’ legal-schmegal entrapment gavotte. In phase-space, probability structures a complex/virtual (“imaginary”) spectrum of outcomes which magically reduce to Time as exponential unit-one.

    In context, where subjects transpose instantaneously from A to B without syllogistic “if this, then that” –that is, absent linear causation– spatio-temporal position via time-duration/interval reduces solely to energy coordinates as positive or negative exponents/roots, proportional functions of Probability Constant 1 : 1. Because the immutable Past is dead-and-gone, while Future contingencies lie wholly in potentiam, only the cosmos’ eternal, universal Present has any material/physical (“real”) existence.

    So… Schiff et al. take their text from Planck: Transposing from A to B, anything Rats’ partisan hate-object Pres. Trump does or says relates to some hoicked-up “obstruction” premise via shifting space/time energy coordinates (Oyez!), establishing that, in fact, Schiff & Co. are there already. Which, of course, they are.

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  48. JimWVa says:

    The IC IG Atkinson September 9th letter to Congressmen Schiff/Nunes is a non-statutory “whistleblower complaint” against the Acting DNI Maguire, because of the Acting DNI’s failure to forward to Congress a different whistleblower complaint regarding the classified communications of President Trump. IMO, the entire Intelligence Community statutory structure needs overhaul. IC IG Atkinson’s 9/9 letter blows right by the clause of the statute that requires continued non-disclosure of the classified information to Congress if it includes “differences of opinion over public policy matters.” See, page 1 at footnote 2 of the Atkinson-Schiff/Nunes letter of 9/9/2019. (Posted by Sundance at top of this thread)

    These IC statutes should protect the US President and the Homeland from malign attack by foreign military adversaries (Al Queda, etc.). The Lawfare allies in the US Government, IMO, are using these public laws to wage asymmetric political activity against the US President during the Constitutional four year term of office.

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  49. G S says:

    Their allegations:

    By: Mary Anne Marsh https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-reelection-trouble-mary-anne-marsh

    “Clearly Trump’s reelection is in trouble. And it may explain why Trump allegedly sought foreign assistance against Joe Biden, the front-runner in the crowded Democratic primary field. That should concern every American.

    It has been widely reported that Trump asked the newly elected president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, eight times in a July phone call to investigate whether Biden, while vice president, acted improperly in pressuring the resignation of a Ukraine prosecutor whose office was investigating a company that employed Biden’s son. Trump denies these allegations and the Ukrainian foreign minister said Saturday, ‘I know what the conversation was about and I think there was no pressure.’

    It was also reported that Trump threatened to withhold $250 million in military aid from Ukraine if they didn’t cooperate. That money was released this month.

    Furthermore, Trump insisted that Ukraine work on the matter with his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, not official representatives of the U.S. government.

    However, if these reports are true, a request to benefit Trump’s political prospects, rather than United States or its national security, is illegal.”

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    • Bubby says:

      “If these reports are true”? She sounds just like Mittens! But they aren’t true and both already know that but being NeverTrumpers the sinister insinuation is what counts!

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    • JeffP says:

      Mary Ann Marsh is a liberal lunatic that hates Trump AND All Americans. I would not believe it if she said it was a Woman, I would say Lift the Skirt and prove it!
      KAG2020!

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    • snellvillebob says:

      Harry Reid once said on the Senate floor that he had Romney’s tax returns. It also was a lie.

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    • Another seditious traitor at Fox. By the way, Dan Bongino was absolutely AMAZING on Mark Levin show last night. I am sure that Dan must be an avid reader of CTH. Seems to me he gets nearly all his material directly from the writing of our illustrious Sundance.

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    • 2Alpha says:

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪

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    • LEET says:

      G S:

      On what basis, I wonder, does she make the assertion that “Trump’s re-election is in trouble”, she even adds the word “clearly”, but never gives an example of how it is clear. Looks like your typical progressives manipulation, obfuscation, and prevarication.

      We will only see more and more of this in the days ahead of 2020 election.

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      • GB Bari says:

        On what basis, I wonder, does she make the assertion that “Trump’s re-election is in trouble”, she even adds the word “clearly”, but never gives an example of how it is clear.

        She makes the assertion on the same basis used for every other false assertion made about President Trump. That basis is – no factual basis, other than bald faced lies told with confidence that most MSM news consumers are sufficiently brainwashed and too busy and unaware to look any further and discover the truth.

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    • Deplorable Canuck says:

      I’m sorry but I read this screed on Fox. No need to read it here, consider the source and don’t spread this utter crap. It does not deserve a Ctrl C or a Ctrl V. Just a Ctrl X.

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      • G S says:

        I think that some people haven’t read it there and I believe that it’s important for us to know what they are saying.

        I copied and pasted parts of it here so her article doesn’t get many clicks. I posted the link as reference, should someone ask for it.
        If this is a violation of rules of this site, the moderators will delete my comment.

        I wrote at the beginning that these are «their arguments», you could’ve just skipped over it if you didn’t want to read.

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    • Rynn69 says:

      Mary Ann Marsh? LMAO. Since you live in a bubble, have fun spinning all your BS to each other. People in the Real World of America could care less. Once liars, always liars.

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    • lftpm says:

      At the denouement of this fustercluck,VSGPDJT will speak two words to the Dims: “Meep meep.”

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    • The Third Man says:

      Mary Ann Marsh is the worst hack of all. She pops up all too often with inane, predictable “opinions.” Just shut up and go away I say.

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      • NC Patriot says:

        She is on Fox EVERY Monday morning———-if you want to avoid Mary Ann Marsh—-then skip Fox on Monday mornings between 10-11 AM, I rarely see her at any other time.
        You are right——–political hack through and through!

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    • iowan2 says:

      Rudy was approached by the State Dept to act as liaison with Ukraine, first meeting in Spain with a Ukraine representative Rudy had never met or talked with. Rudy at every level being debriefed by the State Dept.
      Try to us facts, not talking points.

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    • 🍺Gunny66 says:

      G S.

      Give me a break…..Everything you state comes from the MSM….

      Go back and listen to Biden’s own words….

      “Trumps re-election is in Trouble”………… another yawner…

      Next…..

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    • Garavaglia says:

      But..what if the reports are true that I saw The Loch Ness Monster Making out with Bigfoot in Central Park last week (my dog told me I saw this). Huh..what if? Prove me wrong..lol.

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    • Patience says:

      Oh my! Baseless M A Marsh twists again.

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    • 1stgoblyn says:

      Mary Ann Marsh is just another one of those propaganda mouth-pieces: “Clearly Trump’s reelection is in trouble. And it may explain why Trump allegedly sought foreign assistance against Joe Biden, the front-runner…” blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada.

      More likely VSPGPDJT is gaining momentum and that explains why the propaganda machine and the Dims (sorry for repeating myself) keeps saying shirt like that and why Joe Biden is constantly broadcast as the front-runner leading the polls.

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