Hubris as A Strategy…

Hubris (/ ˈ h juː b r ɪ s /, from ancient Greek ὕβρις) describes a personality quality of extreme or foolish pride or dangerous overconfidence, often in combination with (or synonymous with) arrogance.

There appears to be a concerted media, and allies (think Lawfare), strategy to focus attention to the DOJ decision *not* to prosecute James Comey.  This generates outrage, which has a tendency to create useful backlash.  Mr. Comey also appears to be fueling this.

Remember, it has been clear that part of the “small group” defense is to use outrage as part of their strategy.  Focus on the actual conduct… that’s where corrupt intent is evident.

The issue(s) surround President Obama and high-ranking Obama intelligence officials, notably: John Brennan, James Comey, James Clapper and Sally Yates intentionally lying and/or misrepresenting issues to president-elect Donald Trump and the transition team in/around the transition period and shortly after the January 20, 2017, inauguration.

Some of the misinformation stems from intelligence officials telling direct lies (ex. telling President-elect, and President Trump he was not under investigation). Other aspects were lies of omission surrounding the Steele Dossier during the January 6th, 2017, intelligence briefing session with the President-elect in Trump Tower.

In essence, there were many misleading and false statements, with varying scales of severity, during the period from November 9th, 2016, through mid-May 2017 when President Trump fired FBI Director James Comey.

(FBI Declarations about Comey Memos)

The FBI, DOJ, ODNI, CIA and intelligence officials were intentionally not being direct and honest with President Trump and key members of his new administration. Obviously their lack of honesty was a serious issue, and in some cases had serious ramifications.

The expressed finding by Robert Mueller’s two-year probe of ‘no Trump-Russia collusion, no Trump-Russia conspiracy, and no Trump-Russia obstruction’ has led to some hindsight reviews where anger surfaces about the now visible deception.  However, there is a trap laid here and Democrats are hoping outraged voices will walk straight into it. Some are already getting very close.

At 12:15pm on January 20th, 2017, Obama’s outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice wrote a memo-to-self. Many people have called this her “CYA” (cover your ass) memo, from the position that Susan Rice was protecting herself from consequences if the scheme against President Trump was discovered. Here’s the email:

On January 5, following a briefing by IC leadership on Russian hacking during the 2016 Presidential election, President Obama had a brief follow-on conversation with FBI Director Jim Corney and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates in the Oval Office. Vice President Biden and I were also present.

President Obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled by the Intelligence and law enforcement communities “by the book“.

The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book.

From a national security perspective, however, President Obama said he wants to be sure that, as we engage with the incoming team, we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia.

[Redacted Classified Section of Unknown length]

The President asked Corney to inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team. Corney said he would.

Susan Rice ~ (pdf link)

As stated, many have looked at this as a “CYA” memo, but that’s not what this is.

This is a justification memo, written by an outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice to document why there have been multiple false and misleading statements given to the incoming President Trump and all of his officials.

This is not a “CYA” memo, this is a justification memo for use AFTER the Trump-Russia collusion/conspiracy narrative collapsed; if the impeachment effort failed.

The “By The Book” aspect refers to President Obama and Susan Rice being told by CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, that President Trump was the subject of an active counterintelligence investigation to determine if he was under the influence of the Russian government.

Even the timing of the memo, written 15 minutes prior to the end of the Obama administration, is ex-post-facto useful as evidence of the author’s intent.

Put aside the nonsense aspect to the origination of the investigation for a moment; that part doesn’t apply here…. Accept their position ‘as if’ it is substantive.

We are talking about Brennan, Comey, Clapper and Yates telling President Obama and NSA Susan Rice that President-elect Trump is under a counterintelligence investigation where the suspicion is that Donald J Trump is an agent of a foreign power.

Under that auspices (fraudulent though it may be) the incoming President is a counterintelligence investigation target. A potentially compromised Russian asset. Under this auspices all of the officials would be permitted to lie and mislead their target, so long as they did so “By The Book.”

That’s their justification for a lengthy series of lies and false statements.

That’s why FBI Director James Comey can lie to the President and tell him he’s not the target of the ongoing Russia investigation. That’s the justification for keeping the accusations inside the Steele Dossier (remember, the Dossier is evidence) from the President-elect. That’s the justification for all of the officials to lie to President Trump, and even mislead the media if needed.

The Susan Rice email is one big Justification Letter; setting the stage for all of the participants to have a plausible reason for lies to anyone and everyone.

Call out John Brennan for telling Harry Reid about the Steele Dossier during his gang-of-eight briefing, but not telling Go8 member Devin Nunes about it. Brennan escapes by saying Nunes was on the Trump transition team; and briefing a conflicted politician on the dossier would have compromised the FBI investigation. See how that works?

Call out James Comey for lying to President-elect Trump during the January 6th Trump Tower meeting…. Comey escapes by saying Trump was a target of the FBI investigation for potential compromise as a Russian asset; informing the target of the evidence against him would have compromised the investigation. See how that works?

Every lie, every omission, every false and/or misleading statement, must first be filtered through the “By The Book” prism of Trump being considered a Russian asset. This is the justification trap democrats are waiting to exploit for maximum damage and diminishment of counter attack.

The “By the Book” justification, where every action could have been taken because Trump might have been an actual Russian operative, is the weapon under the camouflage tarp as the radical left lures-in their political opposition. They shrug their shoulders and say in condescending voice: ‘well, we didn’t know; we had to be prudent‘, etc.

Getting outraged about the Obama administration’s lies, misstatements and fabrications can backfire if you don’t first think about it from their constructed frame-of-reference.

The ‘By-the-Book’ framework is based on a false-premise; but the action, just about any action, taken to mislead (even undermine) the incoming administration is excusable under this carefully crafted justification memo. That’s exactly why Susan Rice wrote it; and each of the participating members knows they can use it, when needed.

The way to get around the legal and political defense inside this justification memo is to ignore the activity of those protected by it and go directly to the origin of how they created that false premise in the first place.


….Cold Anger does not take action to spite itself.

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412 Responses to Hubris as A Strategy…

  1. GSparrow says:

    Worrying too much about being caught in an “outrage trap” can also be a negative if it stifles all anger. Anger can be a great motivator and a useful emotion when encountering a dangerous enemy. It has been an essential trait or emotion for human survival for millennia and it often overcomes fear. sundance strives to maintain a healthy balance between “positive” anger and maintaining a rational controlled focus on the goal.

    I believe more motivational outrage should have been generated after MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell peddled his “one source” conspiracy theory about P Trump’s companies being funded by Russian oligarchs. Millions of anti Trump wishful thinkers either still believe it or suspect it’s true. Some permanent damage has been done once again by the corrupt media.

    After the stooge’s insincere apology that included the infuriating Weissmann style comment “we don’t know if it was inaccurate,” the controversy seems to have faded away. But my controlled anger convinced me that the FBI should have at least interviewed O’Donnell and inquired about his source. I know this is verboten policy but what this stooge did was deviously present a 2nd Dirty Dossier in mini form. The FBI should at least have attempted to determine if the “one source” was a foreign national trying to discredit P Trump or is it all just a fabricated lie from O’Donnell.

    Fighting back with more restrictive rules than your unrestricted vicious enemy is not a winning strategy.

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  2. Mo says:

    Sundance Your wisdom is very keen. So is the president’s wisdom and i believe he and those close to him, hopefully to include Mr. Barr, are both aware of this justification defense, and are working at the root , the begining, just where the focus needs to be.

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    • The Boss says:

      I’d say there’s a much better than even chance all those you mention are very aware of the justification defense and the outrage trap. Plus many things not known publicly.

      Liked by 4 people

    • TWOHAWK 1 says:

      I hope all goes well, you stay above water, and that you and family remain safe.

      Liked by 4 people

    • YeahYouRight says:

      Creating one’s own justification using false information that you know is false and probably had a hand in creating is not cover. It is seditious, in this case, and corrupt.

      And it has set this country back and cost us dearly, both internally and as a matter of how the President has been”allowed” to interact with foreign powers. Sedition.

      Is this the precedent now?

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  3. visage13 says:

    Sorry, not sorry, I am outraged. Cold anger, he is a smug SOB. I guess it is okay for him and everyone else to lie & leak about the President but no one should ever do the same about him. It is a two tiered justice system and I am over it. If these people get away with everything, as I suspect they will, we have no country, no rule of law.

    Anyway, I have a hurricane coming right at me as do you Sundance and my FL friends so in the grand scheme of things, this never ending political theater is not worth it. Let me know when the cops decided to actually arrest people until then, it means nothing.

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  4. rckymtn says:

    I’m not mad because I lost hope that justice will ever be served. Our govt is just as corrupt as Iraq under Saddam H. they just haven’t started killing people yet. Once back in power, I’m guessing that will start. Trump has to know they will ruin every single member of his family and anyone that has a name that sounds like Trump or talks like him.

    Thank G for the 2nd ammendment…….

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  5. LIG says:

    America has never witnessed so much evidence of malfeasance and corruption in our government. More than we could have ever imagined! President Trump has shown us how deep and wide the depravity of our government. “ they” are so confident of never being charged with crimes they are laughing at us. The ones they know will expose them happen to be no longer living.

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  6. MeJane says:

    I am not clear on why the justification letter is looked at like it is the God’s honest truth? The letter is obviously a lie, a cover-up based on the all that has been uncovered so far (FISA abuse , Hillary funded false premise Russian Dossier, FBI anti-Trump bias etc.) and what all the players had to gain from framing President Trump. Why does the letter, written to Rice herself and suspiciously written 15 minutes before the end of Obama’s administration, actually exonerate all of the players? The meeting that she said took place with Obama where Obama had a brief follow-on conversation with herself, Biden, FBI Director Jim Corney and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates in the Oval Office. Will depositions ever be required as to what went on in that meeting? What about asking Presidential Candidate Biden his recollection of this meeting and demand some transparency? What about some additional back up to this story like note takers notes who tend to be present in important Oval Office meetings. What about notes of the previous meetings between Obama and Susan Rice being told by CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey, James Clapper, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, that President Trump was the subject of an active counterintelligence investigation to determine if he was under the influence of the Russian government? A lone letter dashed off in the manner this one was is highly suspicious w/o substantial back up.


    • I personally think that this “justification letter” was written with the tacit presumption that, “somehow or other, Donald Trump would not survive the onslaught.” He would somehow be driven out of office. The premise that “he was, in fact, a Russian agent” would somehow prevail in the end. I don’t think that anyone in the Obama administration ever thought that he would make it this far.

      No, at this point I don’t think that “justification letter” is going to be sufficient to justify anything. Not anymore. Maybe all of you need to look once again at the beach. Did you notice that that incoming wave is 100 feet high?


      • Amy2 says:

        I do get some satisfaction from that Mike. They never believed he would make it this far!! Even without any justice yet, they are stewing in their own juices and it smells DELICIOUS!


    • arze says:

      Justification Letter — From the perspective of Obama and his Clan, — albeit they were flying by the seat of their pants, and it was a Hail Mary, as it were — this JL was done precisely because an investigation of Pres. Trump was ongoing. And keep in mind Obama approved this counterintelligence/counterterrorism “investigation” against Trump.

      The Clan was arguing that their investigation, allegedly because it was operating ‘by the book’ — would trump any potential accusations/indictments against the Clan, any myriad kind of accusations that they were breaking the law. That has always been their hope and prayer.

      And this ‘by the book’ paradigm had the added ‘benefit’, if you will, of providing a version of events, however despicable, that our media apostles used as a prism through which their coverage was distilled.

      Americans, rightly, had a reasonable expectation that American Journalism would have reported news in an objective manner, and in doing so, would have reported that the Clan’s prism . . . is the Clan’s attempt to influence the public’s understanding of these events.

      That is what journalists do.

      But as we know, American Journalism as an institution failed to do that.

      And the consequences of this failure are myriad and profound.

      As Gen. Flynn is saying in the above clip: power always resides with the people. That basic law of nature no one can deny….whether we exercise and assert that is another discussion for another day….


  7. Atomic Hillbilly says:

    All that may be so, but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Barr to do anything about it.

    He’s doing damage control for the swamp.
    They’re going to wait Trump out, just like they always do when a president’s policies don’t align with the swamp.

    Nobody from inside the swamp (past or present) will fix this.

    Only outsiders can fix it.

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    • free2313 says:

      Atomic Hillbilly: They are destroying America from the inside out, and you are looking for an outsider to fix it…
      You are the fixers, you are the future and the leaders of the revolution..
      Or you can just sit back and permit the corruption from the evil swamp,destroy America the beautiful….
      “America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere.” It seems as if, those were the days, those were the dreams and those were the pure visions…
      No one is coming to save you, you are your own saviors………..


    • Michael Todaro says:

      The only difference between Barr and Sessions is that Barr won the Ana Navarro Trophy aka The Giant Burrito of Lard Award.

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  8. Baby El says:

    Arrogance and Ignorance go hand in hand!!


  9. Raptors2020 says:

    Hal Holbrook as Deep Throat in All the President’s Men “..Cover-up had little to do with Watergate, it was mainly to protect the covert operations. It leads everywhere”.

    I’m pretty sure this is what Sundance is trying to tell us.

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  10. Jive Pawnbroker says:

    Comey should be hanged, drawn and quartered. And I’d pay to watch it happen.

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  11. ElTocaor says:

    This committee owes an apology, Senator!


  12. Mr bandwagon says:

    Didn’t Comey help win the election for President Trump ?


  13. CountryDoc says:

    I ride the knife edge between outrage, hope, and preparation for battle. I try to “be where my feet are” — work on my understanding of God and His truth, and apply that to my primary relationships: my wife, my sons and my parents and family. I seek active relationships that produce growth in my church and community. I keep my body in shape and my powder dry.

    I too, have already pledged my life, my fortune, and my sacred honor to this Nation under God — and I believe God influenced everyone from the founders, to Trump, and we are hear as a nation as Reagan said: The last great hope. I have learned to be grateful one day at a time.

    I pray every day for enlightenment on what to do: Pray and be patient, start taking these bastard traitors out, or something in between. I have a calm, cold, steeled anger, and I am deadly, deadly serious. If called, I will make that pledge to God, to the people I love, and for this nation.

    These CoC bastards, RINOs, leeches, globalists, and traitors are destroying our nation. The insurance companies, and large hospital systems are killing the great healthcare system, and the ability to practice medicine in an effective way, and especially make a living without cheating or cutting corners.

    I am grateful for Donald Trump, I am grateful for Sundance, I am grateful for the patriots on this site and those I know scattered throughout my life. Every time I scan the horizon, I see more of you. Some are watching, waiting, and praying the prayers of warriors. Some are in stealth mode, some are hidden, some are disguised. You give me hope, and you give me strength.

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  14. jus wundrin says:

    Nothing will happen to this SOB, or any of the other SOBs in DC. Welcome to the banana republik of America

    Liked by 2 people

  15. FreedomIsNoJoke says:

    Wake me up when someone actually faces legal consequences.

    Liked by 6 people

  16. For Eyes says:

    Sorry, but divining a cunning plan by Lawfare to get us wound up intentionally about Comey is a bit too 64D chess-like. Too clever by half.

    This isn’t the same as trying to lure Trump into obstruction moves.

    Sometimes the simple straightforward view of things is the correct clear path. No Justice in this = No Justice.

    And sometimes anger and frustration are the only rational human responses

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    • Ray Runge says:

      Ah yes. I will attempt to stir a good ol march on the Swamp. Bus loads of millions of people to camp out in from of the terrible architectural rendering that is the FBI. AND a few more millions to camp out in front of the DNI archives.

      So many trash IG reports is a sad tale in response to a an attempted bureaucratic take over of our government. Sundance has published many times a list of documents that will prove to the legally illiterate that many people trashed our form of government to make sure POTUS Trump is thrown out or rendered neutered in his ability to govern.

      To maintain my and many peoples respect for the government, the time to force justice is now.

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      • For Eyes says:

        I marched in the first Tea Party march on DC, and others.

        To this day I don’t who organized it, but they had people and a budget. Scheduling. Permits. Communications. Stages for speeches. Speakers. Sound equipment.

        It had a purpose: grass roots to elect better Congressmen and Senators.

        Its teeth was in the fact it was aimed dead at the elected Swamp. Votes are their oxygen.

        So what’s our purpose? We don’t elect the AG and head of FBI, nor their staff nor the courts. We already have a President in control of that. We can’t demand indictment and conviction.

        So its toothless. And known to be toothless.

        I don’t know who on SSIC is up for reelection, but marching on their offices in their home state and getting them booted might be a start. A start.

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      • Dee says:

        Been saying the same since the Tea party formed because we have had enough and then some is a kind understatement.


  17. wtd says:

    Stephen Coughlin argues in his paper that there is a dialectic negation of law and even facts taking place and our institutions are replacing reason and law, with a narrative.

    Stephen Coughlin is a lawyer and former Joint Chiefs of Staff intelligence analyst who was in effect fired by the Pentagon at the request of Hesham Islam who has since been suspected of being an Islamic terrorist sympathizer.
    Stephen Coughlin Red Pill Brief: all 10 videos. Stephen Coughlin’s “Red Pill” presentation “Understanding Islamism and the radical left” was a presentation given to the Vienna Academic Society in Vienna, Austria on May 23, 2015

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    • Dee says:

      Thank you, this should be read by all. Downloaded and will work in this for a while. Real eye opener to confirm what you feel is very real, sadly.

      Liked by 1 person

    • CountryDoc says:

      what strategy should we take against it? I suspect it is the old “if you are loving christian graceful people, you will understand my circumstances” hammered away at the foundation of the constitution and law until it doesn’t matter any more.

      it is 1984 on streroids. Alinsky, Lawfare, psy-ops. The dingbat left/greenies/social justitce warriors are the Hubris puppets at the behest of the ore cunning evil/swamp/traitor/extortionists/globalists

      Where does their planning occur? how do they communicate? Where does the planning of patriots occur. how can we communicate? Important, not rhetorical questions.

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  18. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  19. omyword says:

    I wonder if POTUS and his team knew about this trap being set and have been working around this roadblock. I have a sense something will be flying in from left field. Great article ol chap. As usual


  20. mtg50 says:

    Everyone posting here knows that there was an attempted coup against President Trump. The co-conspirators, which includes Comey, need to be indicted for that crime. Indicting Comey for these memo actions, whether a crime or not, is a distraction. Barr does not want to be distracted. I have confidence in Barr.


  21. Aintree says:

    The many months that the OIG spent on this Comey investigation is not a total waste of time, effort and money.

    The IG report proves without a shred of reasonable doubt to any honest and rational person that Comey’s firing by POTUS was prescient, wise and fully justified. He was an out of control Director of the FBI who was justifiably fired and subsequently disgraced for numerous just causes no matter how desperately he and the lap dog media try to spin it. Being remembered for being fired and disgraced when you were the top dog in the FBI is not a cause to ever celebrate or to mock your critics for stating the truth.

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  22. youme says:

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  23. Pristach says:

    Comey’s greatest hubris was that he was played for a sucker by Brennan.

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  24. JoeMeek says:

    Hubris has been the Pentagon’s strategy in their Operation Enduring Insanity in Afcrapistan for the last 17 years, so they seem to still hold the record.


  25. Lee Moore says:

    Having skimmed through the IG Report, I can see why prosecution for leaking classified stuff was declined. But I think Horowitz (and Barr) have missed the criminal offense that is hidng in plain sight.

    Horowitz lays out in crushing detail why Comey’s memos could never have been “just personal” rather than official government documents. How nobody else at the FBI considered them as anything other than official. How Comey’s own treatment of them belied his claim that they were personal (eg providing them to FBI colleagues for viewing and copying.)

    But Horowitz just contents himself with proving that Comey’s claim that they were personal is wrong. He never takes the next, obvious and inescapable, step to conclude that Comey’s claim was A LIE. A repeated ‘lacking candor” lie to the IG’s investigators.

    Horowitz’s demolition of Comey’s claim is so devastating that it leaves no wriggle room. How could a clever, thorough, lawyer, well up to speed on the rules, the head of the FBI himself make such a crashing error as to thinki his memos were just personal documents ? Answer – he didn’t. He was just pretending to think that as a feeble CYA for all the breaches of FBI regs he was making. It was just a pretext, not an honest belief.

    Forrest Gump could plead that defense. Comey no.

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    • Lee, Horowitz did make a formal criminal referral based on this section of the document, as he was required by law to do. The DOJ declined to prosecute this, because it’s small-fry compared to what else they’ve already got on this man. They’ve got his signature on warrants that the Judge whom he presented them do has formally declared to be perjury. He “lied under oath,” and there’s no wiggle-room about that. These will be cases that are so easy to try that “summary judgment” might be the outcome: conviction without a trial.

      The second part of Horowitz’s report is going to specifically discuss this, and it is entirely likely that criminal referrals deriving from this part will be pursued quite vigorously. Bothering to formally pursue what is contained in this report in an attempt to obtain felony convictions probably is a waste of time and resources.


  26. Be strong and of good cheer patriots. At the end of this drama, Cold Anger will make US laugh … because those who laugh last, laugh longest .. all the way thru his 2nd term as POTUS.

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  27. burnett044 says:

    Everyone sees the injustice …the corruption…
    the question is…what are you gonna do about….???

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  28. islandpalmtrees says:

    Our DUAL System of Government!
    IG Report or Dossier III

    SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY: Director Comey, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?

    JAMES COMEY: Never.

    GRASSLEY: Question two, relatively related, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?

    COMEY: No.

    GRASSLEY: Has any classified information relating to President Trump or his association — associates been declassified and shared with the media?

    COMEY: Not to my knowledge.

    Comey admitted to the Senate Intel Committee that he gave information to a friend of his, Columbia University law professor Daniel Richman, to leak to the press.

    Comey admitted that he did so in order to prompt a special counsel to be named.

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  29. The Gipper Lives says:

    I don’t want to see Comey charged with leaking or lying or the stupid process crimes him and his crooked pals charge everyone else with.

    I want to see him charged with the sedition that is at the heart of the Coup Attempt.

    President Trump says this should never happen to another president, and he’s right. But it already has. This is an assault on President Washington and his Peaceful Transfer of Executive Power. And even more so an assault on the American People. Our elections belong to us, not to Deep State parasites like Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Loretta Lynch, Jim Comey or John Brennan, or any other of these reprobate criminals and Coup Plotters.

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    • “I don’t want to see Comey charged with leaking or lying or the stupid process crimes him and his crooked pals charge everyone else with. I want to see him charged with the sedition that is at the heart of the Coup Attempt.”
      Exactly so. They played the long game against DJT since before he won the nomination. Now the long game will be played against Them. The difference is that the full LEGAL arsenal of Executive / DOJ powers belong to President Trump and his AG.

      Hubris is a desperation defense and it will fail.

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  30. budsnblooms says:

    “DOJ declined to prosecute” Comey. My question is to “never” prosecute or decline to prosecute “at this time”? I’m hoping the DOJ does not intend to prosecute the memo violations at this time and pile on with the criminal indictment regarding the FISA submissions.


    • LULU says:

      They declined to prosecute him for removing the memos from his FBI office, for leaking the memos, etc. Process crimes. That was all that was at issue in this carve out on Comey’s memos. Just a piece of the overall scheme. He was guilty of far more in the lattert regard.


  31. jeans2nd says:

    Hubris, huh?
    Iow, Smugnorance. Pure, unadulterated, Smugnorance.

    IG Horowitz has done a fine job so far of outlining Comey’s complete and total disregard for FBI/DOJ rules, regulations, and ethics. There are at least 4 IG reports detailing Comey’s Smugnorance (do not forget the Weiner laptop), and there are more IG reports to come.

    We knew these people were experts at bending the law. They would not be Swamp Creatures otherwise. But everyone slips up. Everyone has their day.

    Do recall (paraphrased) –
    “Vengeance is Mine” says the Lord, “I will repay.”
    Deut 32:35, Romans 12:19
    We can wait…their time will come.

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  32. Chuck Arnold says:

    The ” by the book” justification defense will never work, it’s actually ridiculous(with all do respect)because the people who would try and use that defense are the same people who created the entire Russia collusion sham, and everybody knows that now. I don’t know how anybody could even think that plan could ever work for these traitors to escape justice.


  33. Pew-Anon says:

    “The way to get around the legal and political defense inside this justification memo is to ignore the activity of those protected by it and go directly to the origin of how they created that false premise in the first place.”

    Thank you. And isn’t that what this has really been about all along?

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  34. TKA says:

    Two thoughts:

    1) As much as I’d like to believe otherwise, Comey isn’t stupid. His hubris must be based on some confidence he’s going to, somehow, come out of this unscathed. it’s nave to think, coming from the ranks of FBI director, that he has no idea how this whole process works and what’s likely going on behind the scenes.

    2) It’s getting more than a little old to keep hearing the public has to be educated on what’s going on, what’s at stake, what has to be done to “catch a dangerous animal” or that these things take time. We’re on the cusp of a third IG report, and this one is supposed to “bring down the house”. If FISA doesn’t bring real indictments soon after it’s release then I think it’s more than fair to start re-evaluating the validity of everything we keep hearing about what’s to come. (Solomon, Hannity, Carter etc)

    Lastly, there are so many people involved in this tragedy. Are we really to believe there’s no low hanging fruit that can be brought to justice as a sign that what we’re being told is happening is, in fact, happening? There’s a lot that’s not adding up in this whole mess and angering people in hopes of motivating them, without a direction as to where the anger should be directed, isn’t a sound strategy. In my view.

    And yes, I lack the ability to “discern”. Feel free to call me stupid for not having that skill.

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  35. For Eyes says:

    William and Mary University must be embarrassed to have hired Comey. If they have any shame.


  36. Bubby says:

    What? How could that happen? Deep state taking care of their own! Richman should have been interviewed because he was in substance FBI! Total BS!

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  37. LULU says:

    Please do not feel insulted, but I believe that a number of us could benefit from knowledge about how the grand jury system works. It is not like a trial jury.

    Here are several articles:

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    • CountryDoc says:

      Can you summarize the differences and how they relate to the points on this thread?


      • LULU says:

        CD, why thank you for showing up. I think you’d be the perfect person to do that.


        • CountryDoc says:

          Lulu, I read about the differences between a trial jury and a grand jury. That part is clear to me, and despite your fears, I was not insulted one bit, by your suggestion that some of us might need to be more enlightened. Grand juries are more informal, are secret, allow more freedom for witnesses to share and jurists to decide — and are usually used to decide whether to indict, and make way for a faster trial if indicted. So, thank you for sharing that.

          So I was asking, and I would not be the least bit insulted, if you could further enlighten us, on how you thought those of us more ignorant of the differences between trial juries vs grand juries were misunderstanding things about Comey on this thread.


      • The most important element of the Grand Jury system is secrecy. They are considering charges against a person who is now “cloaked in a glowing robe of Innocence,” so it is not revealed that they have been convened, what evidence they are considering, nor who is the target. And yet, Grand Juries are where criminal indictments come from. I think that’s one of the basic reasons why “we don’t have a clue what’s going to happen or when.” (And, neither does Hannity … 😉 …)

        People seemed to think that when Barr was granted declassification authority, the world’s public printing-presses would go into overdrive. Instead, we surmise (but, do not know) that he is presenting this material to Grand Juries, whose citizen members would not possess security clearances. Secrecy, at this point, is actually a fundamental part of the legal process. After all, Epstein would have fled America, never to return, “had he known.”

        So, people are saying “Comey wasn’t charged.” But obviously, “Comey hasn’t been indicted yet.” (So far as we know. They could still be under seal.) Will he be? Obviously, yes.


        • P.S. “Obviously, yes?” Obviously, yes! 🙂 This man at the very least committed perjury – he made a false statement under oath – and a Federal Judge has already called him out on it in a formal ruling by her Court, delicately referring to “institutional lack of candor.” (But, she didn’t just “say it” – she ruled.)

          If Martha Stewart(!) can be sentenced to prison for much less than this, James Comey is going to be staying in the Government Apartment House for quite some time. (And this is only one of many serious felony charges that he could be arraigned for. We’ll know when the Grand Jury speaks.


        • CountryDoc says:

          Thank you. That is very helpful. I get more education here per unit of time in many areas of importance, then I do anywhere else


  38. pattyloo says:

    what is an outrage trap? i don’t understand.


  39. Bird Watcher says:

    Well, at least Horowitz didn’t exonerate the cr@p-weasel.


  40. gsonFIT says:

    Some commentator mentioned July 5th, 2016 that the general public is not supposed to know the name of the FBI director. In other words if the Director is doing their job right they are flying under the radar and the average citizen will not recall their identity.

    I’ll never forget Comey.


  41. dallasdan says:

    Being smug, disingenuous, and dishonest come easily when there are no negative consequences for lawless behavior.

    IMO, it is clearer every day that the deep state is too strong, too agile, too deep, too broad, and too powerful to be defeated by our warrior President. Such a realization is not a reason to quit the fight; rather, it is a recognition of reality.

    Moreover, “Hope porn” is as pernicious as real porn.

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  42. Lady says:

    We need one question asked and answered. WHO wrote the original dossier. Answer that first and then it will all come into focus.


  43. MD says:

    I too was disheartened when I heard about the IG report on Comey today. But, I thought about it in another way. Remember the circle or dot that Sundance puts out “This is what Trump is doing, this is what the media focus on”. Also remember Trump’s philosophy, economic power is military power. Right now the big picture is on trade deals and breaking apart the system which the swamp benefits from AND gets their power from. The way to drain the swamp may just be that their system of stealing the American people’s money is getting destroyed. All the swamp creatures will be and can be replaced by others. Their crooked system will be hard to replace!


  44. askandgettruth says:

    well this should put the last nail in the coffin of justice in america. should re-name justice to just-us get away with treason and sedition. look at history and this is what happens == empires fall.


  45. Hubris as an antidemocratic disease.

    Even a Republic should strive for democratic expression. These are supposed to be our fellow citizens, not our rulers. There should be no such thing as a career politician, an incumbency bias or a permanently ensconced (unimpeachable) SES class. Such designations embolden hubris creep. These are facets not of fellow citizens but of rulers.

    The hubris of our rulers has delivered us not simply into a Two-Tiered justice system, but an Inverted Tier system.

    Because of the tremendous power we vest in these, our fellow citizens, they should be held to a HIGHER standard than their fellow delegating citizens –beyond reproach as opposed to squeaking by on technicalities; while throwing the full force of law at some dumb kid sailor who takes pictures on board his naval vessel probably to impress a girlfriend at home. That’s the inversion. Privilege has turned things upside-down and essentially codified an aristocratic spirit.

    I was VERY disappointed at the end of last night’s Hannity spot where DeGenova and Toensing praised Barr’s ‘legal genius’, suggesting that it was right to pass on indicting Comey in this instance. Wrong! Intelligence is a circle. Sometimes you can become so smart that you become stupid. Hubris seems to be epidemic in the Swamp. Demonstrable felonies were committed by one of the highest law enforcement officers in the land.

    Under the standard of maximum scrupulousness for who hold the most power over us, there was an absolute imperative to indict Comey. No debate. Fresh off the Epstein debacle (where only 1/3 of all Americans believe the suicide verdict – the tinfoil hat comes of age!), Barr keeps digging fresh holes for himself. He’s creating a very real governability issue. A little less genuflecting at Trump rallies and a smattering of boos might not be a bad thing either. We need to register our displeasure.


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