An unusually giddy and excited Carter Page appears on Fox News with Martha MacCallum to discuss the information within today’s testimony of Robert Mueller. Page notes the mention of Steven Schrage as the contact point from Cambridge University.
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Sketch dude illuminated
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Can Sundance or anyone explain why does CNN analyst Preet Batarra pretend that he doesn’t know who Carter Page is??? Why doesn’t Preet admit that he worked with page in the New York case and page helped get convictions.
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It’s a tactic of people who are full of themselves when dealing with people who they know are far smarter and more influential than they are. . Pretend you don’t know who the person is. They think that by doing that they have designated the person a non-entity.
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Mueller left a turd in the Democrat’s punch bowl.
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“Why doesn’t Preet admit that he worked with page in the New York case and page helped get convictions?”
To do so would mean Pretty Preet knew all along that Page was not a Dastardly Russian Super-Spy–yet said not a peep to the FISA Court, which was his duty as an officer of the court.
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Page was part of the Deep State plot to take down Trump. Like Mifsud, he was not charged with anything. His bizarre behavior after learning he was the subject of a FISA warrant is an indication that he knew he was not in legal jeopardy. For the longest time, he did not hire legal counsel. Tonight he said he was “keeping an open mind,” whatever that means. The FBI picked him for a reason. It would not surprise me to learn he worked for the Company as an agent embedded in the private sector.
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Bingo.
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Bingo. That is my belief as well.
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Page comes across as a complete retard. So if he is a spy, he deserves an Academy Award!
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Thanks for the laugh. Every time I see him acting as his regular dufuss self, I remember he is a trident scholar and his dufuss stole is all an act.
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US Naval Academy
Near the top of his class
Trident Scholar
5 years Naval Intelligence
BA/MA/PhD
And he is a dufuss???? You may want to re-think who is the actual dufuss…
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Conservative 302
My comment is Intended for the guy who claimed he is a retard. One tick above you
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Why do I get the feeling that he is Adm. Rogers & Lt.Gen M Flynn’s guy, C Page had a dual role (perhaps 3), spoofing the secondary handlers and keeping tabs on plants in DJT camp. When Nellie went digging on C Page, the Roger camp threw 2 additional names into the data base along with inaccurate personal data attached. Nellie used the C Page that came close to what information she was fed by FGPS via J Brennan (it was a cat and mouse game between NSA, USMI against CIA and DOJ/FBI. Rogers had eyeballs and ears from the git go.
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Bingo. He’s now playing along to get along. Never says anything of value. Just parrots whats already been said by others. An asset as he has said. Playing this entire scenario for what it’s worth to him.
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gerorgewebb.com truth leaks said that months ago. follow George Webb he is 1 to 2 years ahead of all of this.. He says Barr is there to fix everything as even Barr and Mullers fathers were even friends all a cover-up.. I pray I am wrong but this is DC where they elite protect each others rid the town of lawyers and the all of America would be better off. Page is part of the coup as is Pappa D…
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Yep.Look up the Durham directed investigation at the CIA in 2005. No one was prosecuted even if they had destroyed evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_CIA_interrogation_videotapes_destruction
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Doesn’t Sundance often repeat a quote from David Mamet, something about how if you’re a liberal, you have to pretend you don’t know anything. Or something like that…..
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That’s different. They’re not pretending.
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Your answer lies in your description of the analyst: “CNN analyst Preet Batarra.”
Hasn’t CNN been completely discredited as a source for unspun factual information, especially about any issue involving President Trump?
So then why would anyone who knows that about CNN’s lack of credibility be concerned what any of their on-air propagandists (liars) says or omits about anything?
I’m not being sarcastic; I’m asking seriously.
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Mueller left a turd in the Democrats punch bowl…
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Carter Page- the cat that ate the canary.
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Having worked in federal law enforcement many years one of the most incriminating details of white collar crime is the number of complicated steps the criminals go through to conceal their participation in the crime and their guilt!
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Absolutely.
They lie A LOT.
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Page and PapaD are fascinating dudes.
Have they ever been interviewed together?
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I am foggy on this but maybe Hannity has…
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I believe so yes. When things were just clicking together. Was a surreal experience. I think that was about the time that things started waking up for me about the scope of this whole thing. They both seemed flabbergasted as I felt as the audience watching it.
Still surreal to think of these times.
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Those times were……”salacious”! 😆
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Hey Matt Gaetz, prosecuted by who?
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EXACTLY. still willing to bet my paycheck there will be NONE. ZERO.
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The Day…Impeeeeeeeechment died….
and they were singing,..
Bye, bye Mr. Meuller’s own lies,
So he stuttered and he stammered, but he could not tell why,
And them good ‘ole boys each took five minutes to try…
Thinkin’ this would be the way to impeach…
Thinkin’ this would be the way to impeach!
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I can’t “like” on wordpress, but this your lyrics are hilarious! Thanks for the laugh, WSB!
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Ha! One small step!!!!!! TY!
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I suppose I should have spelled Mueller correctly. Oh well!!!!
P U,,,,DEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! HELLLLLPPPPPPP!
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And we have to fit in …Maxine was cryin’ !
OK, this is an old fun ’round the fire’ throwing a story from one person to the next, where everyone chips in. Much love to add other verses, if your brain is still working tonight! 👍
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Here ya go, WSB.
And ol’ Maxine could not believe her own eyes saying
“We still gotta peach fortah fie… still gotta peach fortah fie.”
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LOLOLOLOL!!!!!
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:D, my friend.
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Ok—here’s my contribution:
Now For 3 years
Trump’s been all alone
Working and tweeting and
Dodging stones
Cuz he’s not who they wanted to win.
When the Special Council finally showed
Shift and Nadler they both dropped a load
Cause the Pitt bull
Wouldnt bark
He’d gotten too damn old.
Oh and while the pundits analyzed
The Democrats soon realized
America wont be hypnotized
The day
Impeachment Died.
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LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!! Perfection!
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👏👏👏👏👏👏
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🤗
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👍👍
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Brilliant. Bravo.
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Tell Chief Justice Roberts that FISA abuse is not an accepted policy.
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Better yet, lets demand Roberts and his FISC oversight unit all resign.
The findings in Judge Collyer Compliance Review reveal a pattern of deceptive behavior to the court and a history, since before 2012, of granting the DoJ second chances.
Where’s Roberts and his sidekicks been for the last six years, on an interstellar mission?
Why allow the DoJ to continue to hold a monopoly on our legal and mat security infrastructure? The institution has accrued quite a record of failure to protect our intell,, defend our privacy and deterrence? Hah!
The command chain itself is still instigating a coup. Our most critical institution houses a subversive subculture. They perceive their caste as exempt from punishment & only a reliable threat of imminent personal harm will break the conformity norms that bind deviant groups.
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I wouldn’t bet a single penny on Roberts helping uncover any Deep State wrongdoing.
Who Watches the Watchmen?
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I don’t think we can rely on Roberts to do anything with FISC. His ignorance and inaction here confirms my worst fears about him.
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Agree, Will Hunt and Phantom Stranger! Never in my life, did I expect this from Roberts. Who does he answer to? The Senate?
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In recent weeks, both Gaetz and SD have been increasingly critical, even accusatory, regarding the DOJ’s “goal-tending” actions. I sense they feel the DOJ, principally AG Barr, is not to be trusted to pursue justice if damage to the to the FBI and/or the DOJ may result.
IMO, it appears that the growing aggressiveness of comments made by Gaetz, Collins, Jordan, SD, et. al. indicates they are on a trajectory to turn on Barr and call him out as a resistance operative.
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I hope so, dallasdan!
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I wish I could say I trust Carter Page to be sincerely excited, but I just DO NOT trust this guy. Not a guy I would invite over for a drink.
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Agree, CD, but man, he’s an interesting odd duck. Lots of important info there, IMO. 😎
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Interesting. I trust him. He is an in the weeds wonky kind of guy and that’s why am trust and like him. My local radio host interviewed him once and it was the best interview I heard of him. You have to know how to ask him questions to get the answers you need. You have to drag him out of the weeds to get what you are looking for. I find him quite interesting and smart too.
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CP: Bit of a geek?
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I don’t either. 2 cents.
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Chip, I would not mind having a drink with him… could be fun, but I am sure as heck not going to trust him to tell the truth about anything.
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He’s an oddball that’s for sure and has interests beyond Trump.
That said he was the first to expose spygate early 2017 on his own.
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Agreed. Don’t trust a guy who smiles and never says anything concrete when accused of horrible crimes. You would think if he is innocent he would be outraged.This guy scares me.
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Page has worked as a FBI asset and who knows what else. He may have been used here unknowingly. Maybe. His ability to talk would be bound by all types of secrecy.
If he was a “bad” guy I doubt we would be seeing much of him at all.
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Mr. Carter consistently presents as on the spectrum & very high functioning.
An odd demeanor is to be expected.
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Ann I’ve thought that since I first saw an interview w/him. Top 10% of his class at Naval Academy, on to Naval Intelligence. A loner egghead no apparent emotional connection to what was happening to him.
I think SD’s analysis is a bullseye: Carter Page FISA was a dupe used by Deep State to legitimize/launder the dossier into the Intel community.
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Agree. I think he was set up.
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He may well be quite intelligent but he is seriously goofy. I’ve known plenty of them in my career – technically astute by socially inept. The perfect dupe if you were looking for one.
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correction: but socially inept
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Exactly., Will. Me too.
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Called them academic idiots in my day, Came in all shapes and sizes.
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Carter Page is an intelligence animal from the Navy, if I am not mistaken. He is not what he projects. Vassar College…same college that Nellie Ohr has frequented. I do not live far from there so was interested that both Ohr and Page, in different years, passed through. Uber left wing.
Way too many oddities…Madelaine Albright groupie…we’ll see.
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Interesting info. But what are the possible angles that would inform his placement in the Trump campaign based on that info? He was a soft-target plant that they ended up sacrificing perhaps?
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Lisa Page said in a closed door hearing that the “insurance policy” was burning a source. Sometimes I think it’s Page. The Timing is right, isn’t it? The luvvahs talked about the insurance policy in Aug 2016 and the first FISA warrant on Carter Page was secured in late October 2016. All set up and in place in case Trump won the election. They could spy on Trump and his team through Carter page from the moment Trump won all through the transition and even when he took office. I couldn’t remember so had to look it up … a Washington Examiner article says FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates signed off on the initial application. How convenient, McCabe was present during the insurance policy conversation so it’s perfect that he signed on behalf of the FBI. And Yates, I guess she took a hit for the team and spared Loretta Lynch, or else Lynch didn’t even know about it.
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Page was an asset for a Russian spy bust earlier.
What I cannot figure out is how he decided to work for the Trump campaign. Same as PapaD.
Both are now hindsight lures.
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WSB keep in mind that all of the 1st and 2nd tier advisors and campaign consultants were prevented from working on the Trump campaign by the RNC and Never Trump crowd until late spring 2016. Team Trump was full of misfits, wanna-be’s, and other risk tolerant types. Easy access to witting and unwitting assets. Page’s $1 lawsuit against the gov’t for opening a FISA on him reeks of not wanting to bite the hand that feeds him.
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I did not realize it was one of those cases! Wreaks!
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I believe Carter Page was Naval Academy and Georgetown. Degree in National Security and was an Intelligence Officer in the Navy for 5 years. He’s a spy. Not sure what he was doing with the Trump campaign…
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Same sentiments.
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Virtually everyone passing through Georgetown over the past three decades in these circles is connected to the CIA in some fashion.
Page was definitely an asset. He may or may not have been sacrificed by them once his usefulness ended. We’ll never really know.
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My take — he was inserted to do harm. He’s a spy down to his bones. He feels personally polluted by his part in the “Russia, Russia, Russia” BS, because he knows how ugly it is…..and he’s giddy because it’s imploding without implicating him.
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That’s the only thing that makes sense to me. He hates that his name is involved in coup to take down the president.
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His facial expression never seems to change, no mater what he is talking about — kind of wide-eyed with a big smile.
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Ditto, Chip Doctor.
There seems to be something off about him.
Plus, wasn’t he a CIA and/or FBI agent, which is not a bad thing in and of itself, but once an agent….
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“There seems to be something off about him.”
Totally AGREE. (I have been posting similar comments about Page since last year.)
Notice that in this interview he DOES NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ASKED.
He replies with vague “cautionary” statements and allusions/references to other information but avoids answering McCallum’s questions. IMO, at this late date, that proclaimed “caution” is fake and unnecessary – he knows darn well that a LOT of information is already in the public domain.
IMHO, Page is hiding something significant.
IMO he was (is?) a CIA asset and was secretly enlisted to be a campaign spy and a “fall guy” in public reports, so he never has faced indictment or prosecution.
After the way Weismann’s Brown Shirts went after Caputo, Cohen, Manafort, Papadopoulos etc. why the lack of interest about Page? Brennan, Comey, Rosenstein, Wray are all silent about Mr. Odd Duck.
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Very well said. I think you’re exactly right.
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Adding:
He always has that look in his eyes – kind of smiling, but in a way that says he’s goofing on US.
Plus, some of the Fox people (Tucker in particular) tried to elicit sympathy for Carter Page, by trying to tell us that this oh so sweet and innocent person has had his life ruined and is unemployable because of what was done to him, this poor victim.
And I remember someone asking Page if he was going to sue, to which he replied that he had a pending lawsuit, seeking one dollar! Hmmmm…
That, along with his goofing-on-us eyes, AND Sundance reporting that he was an asset or agent for one or more of the alphabet agencies- well, I thought and felt similarly to what you stated so well above .
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Page may turn out to be innocent of knowingly participating in the coup plans but, unless I missed major revelations about him, to me he’s still a question mark.
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If he was a long-time CIA or FBI/intel informant, which is a matter of public record, I don’t see why our first assumption wouldn’t be that he actually was a plant on the Trump campaign; or once there, asked to be a confidential informant. Which is not to say he was part of the plot; just that he may have been cooperating with intelligence as he had on other occasions (not thinking that this time it was a coup). Later he was later hung out to dry, so may indeed now feel like the cat that ate the canary.
Manafort I strongly suspect was a plant, and more likely than Carter to have been knowingly participating in the set up. He and Gates have long and deep ties to many of the small group inner circle, including Clinton, McCain, and Deripaska. He and Gates also worked on the McCain campaign, for far longer than Manafort worked for Trump, until public airing of the Russia ties became too uncomfortable. He lobbied for the Ukrainian president that reportedly favored Russia — but his efforts were consistent with Western/NATO goals, ie, how the Western elite could keep making money even with the other guy in power. Because of his long ties to all these same corrupt spygate actors now victimizing him, I tend to think he was in on it and then became a fall guy.
PapaD — I have no idea. His odd, out-sized role in spygate always seemed so weird. He seems sincere (as if we ever can tell) and I haven’t read his book. So far no evidence countering what he came forward to air publicly.
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Agree with all of this. And I think PapaD is truthful. PapaD was basically a kid to them. I think they were getting really desperate and the pressure was ramping up on the circle. So they pressured him in a sloppy manner. To his credit, he proved swift and clever leaving that $10,000 with his people. They should have made it a $5,000 amount or something that would be slightly less questioned on a flight.
I think that was the fundamental mistake they made as things were speeding up. The planting of 10k$ on PapaD (as others have posted) is going to be the thing that unwinds all of this – but the count seemed too high to me. After a series of fishy encounters, I too, would not fly back to the states in this heightened political environment, with that amount of cash on me. If they find it on you, they’ll let you pass with under 10k, but they’ll still ask questions.
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Unlike the alien lizard-like Page fellow, PapaD has been fighting all along and has implicated the critical players almost every day. Joe D said on Dobbs the interviews have already been conducted.
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With the FBI waiting for him at the airport after Stefan Halper gave him the $10,000.
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Manafort almost certainly was not a plant in the Trump campaign. He just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and the Deep State needed a convenient target with no real allies in DC that would protect him.
No one that was “in on it” has been personally destroyed like Manafort. The Deep State would never allow someone on “their” side to fall that far, lest it start making other Deep Staters in on it very nervous.
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Solitary confinement. Stalinesque.
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I found this. It doesn’t sound as bad as I thought: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/04/nyregion/manafort-rikers-island-solitary-confinement.html
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Not wanting to be an a**hole or anything, but my gaydar goes off every time I see and hear him.
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You failed in that regard.
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Today’s been great. Really happy to be at the treehouse. I appreciate the good work done here everyday.
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Representative Elise Stefanik did her homework on her questions. Mueller answered none of them. Not a big surprise at all.
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https://www.pressrepublican.com/news/local_news/stefanik-marries-on-magical-evening/article_6798bd67-694f-5752-aafa-0b02a08216c1.html
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One sharp lady. You want to back the first woman president? She’d be in the running.
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What’s he so sunshiny about?
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Because today marks a change in service and the Democrats have held serve for over two years.
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Carter is always “Sunshiny”. He’s unusual, odd & frankly ….intriguing. He’s intelligent, educated & it’s confirmed he’s a Spook. Carter first caught my attention in more than a passing way after I read the following paragraph from an article on Medium Written by From An Analytic Point Of View titled:
Is Carter Page Stalking the FISA Process? Check Out His Trident Scholar thesis.
(Article linked below)
“Carter Page is adept at saying a great deal while revealing nothing. As a sample of how Page has polished this skill to a fine art, consider this particular excerpt from the interview with Jason Zengerle of New York Magazine”:
[…]as we walked through Manhattan that afternoon, Page assured me that he was playing a long game. “How do I say this without sounding overly confident or arrogant?” he mused. “No one is better prepared to have gone through this than me.” He flashed that familiar beatific smile. “Not only am I ready for it,” he said, “I savor it.”
View at Medium.com
Now THAT is some intriguing-azz-shyte!….if you had read this back in the winter of 2018, with the players and their roles in Spygate still being revealed, would you have been intrigued too? I still wonder, who is Carter Page? Who is he REALLY? Who is the Carter Page behind the sunshiny face he likes to project? I’m still intrigued to this day!
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Carter is brilliant and playing a long hand to victory. He’s excited to see his personal sacrifice turning toward a victory he’s evaluated years ahead. He clearly sees his victory as inevitable.
Based on where we are today, awaiting the FISA Declan’s used to spy on him, he has plenty to feel giddy about.
He’s a Phd who served his country with honor. He was used and abused by evil powers inside our nation at senior levels. He’s going to come up roses and go down in history as one of the good guys in this sordid coup attempt.
He knows it, sees it, feels it which is why his comment on things soon to “come out.”
At this point, the guy can taste it.
DOJ IG Report release will be like several Christmas Days for him. Perhaps for George Papadopolous too.
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Jets…He stands to get very wealthy from lawsuits he’s got going.
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“DNC is at the center of all this”. No wonder Carter Page is giddy
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It’s very, very sad to see “one of the very most important witnesses in this case” being so utterly terrified to talk. Unfortunately, I know why.
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Once a source always a source.
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Why?
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Arkancide.
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Who Carter Page ? And why ?
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Note: I do not know, if the following chart is accurate for Joseph Mifsud
Joseph Mifsud – Soros Associate: Add His Name to British Anti-Trump Counterintelligence Operatives
May 28, 2018
Elder Patriot – Joseph Misfud is a British intelligence asset who purposely became involved with Trump campaign stringer George Papadopoulos in order to implicate Papadopoulos in a broader scheme. People can argue over the appropriate terminology, spy or informant, but if it quacks like a duck and it waddles like a duck it’s a duck.
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Clicking on the image should in-large. I am expecting someone to say Joseph Mifsud was a retired agent. Just like Steele.
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It does not show the links to the DOJ/FBI/NSA.
Also, Nunes said repeatedly Mifsud was at the WH for some speaking engagement.
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I don’t know why the FOX anchor chose to ask Page about Mifsud. Mifsud was not assigned to Page, but only to Papadopoulos. Page and Papadopoulos were picked from the list of foreign policy advisors for the Trump Campaign that some GOP bigshots and the media demanded from Trump. According to Trump, they were never taken seriously as advisors. Don McGahn sent a letter to Page explicitly stating that Page was never a formal advisor to Trump. Trump referred to Papadopoulos as a “coffee boy.”
Papadopoulos has reported that he was informed of being on the list by around March 6, 2016. Sam Clovis informed Papadopoulos of his being chosen around that date. The date is important because the public was not informed about the list until March 21, 2016. Comey called a National Security Council meeting about the list. I don’t know if such a thing has ever been done in other Presidential election years. It is also important to note that Trump had not secured the nomination on March 6, 2016, but Comey called the NSC meeting anyway. The date of the NSC meeting has never been published, but it did happen “in early spring,” which is all we have been told. There is a reason for this that has to do with the “Predicate” that Barr is trying to pin down. One way or another, the Establishment has claimed, at two different times, that either Papdopoulos or Page was responsible for the investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia to be started.
First Predicate–Carter Page trip to Moscow.
Second Predicate–Alexander Downer’s claims about Papadopoulos. This is the current predicate.
If the NSC meeting was prior to March 21, 2016, and closer to March 6, 2016, the predicate is in trouble. How would Comey have known about the names on the list prior to the list being made public?
Clue–Mifsud reached out to Papadopoulos on, or shortly after, March 6, 2016.
There was a spy in the Trump campaign that leaked the list to Comey, but not the media.
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One of Fiona’s best lines from Burn Notice (I would have worked on that show for free, ..almost)
A spy is nothing more than a criminal with a govt Paycheck.
PS if you’re a fan of that show. The episode where Michael builds a xray machine out of an old TV to shoot the package in the trunk. Was used for real in an op.
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In 3 days of the Condor, the main character (R.Redford) works in a department who’s job is to read current novels, and see if any of the details match real operations.
And your saying operational details from actual missions ARE finding there way into fiction/entertainment.
Too funny!
Yet ANOTHER way Condor was prescient. Too bad theres not a Max whatshisname, to clean up this mess!
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Dutchman,, Burn Notice is like a fn training school. especially if you have any type of knowledge. They had a ex CIA field op as their set expert for all the things they did. There are many shows on now with such knowledge.
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KNowledge of chemistry and electronics. Some of the stuff they did is doable. Making an oscilliscope out of a used tv and other stuff, a bit much. Amazon Prime bought the rights to it, not sure if they still have it. Using a am transistor radio to find a bug. Many useful today still.
Though fyi Burner Phones are about to be a thing of the past.
2 g is going bye bye. T mobile says they still support 2 g, however I tried an old phone of mine and I could not get a connection. It recognize the sim card, but would not let the phone connect to the network.
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Ha! My father had a big tech ‘office job’ For a major p TelCom company. We had a few high end oscilloscopes in the basement at all times. Always fascinated!
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Doesn’t surprise me,..
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O there are Max’s still out there. Took a minute to place what you were saying. Best advice one gave me.
If you’re outside and here a THUMP THUMP THUMP, don’t think duck.
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Put head between legs, so you can kiss ur *ss goodbye?
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After 9/11 the government supposedly spoke to Hollywood script writers and novelist types to come up with creative scenarios for terrorist attacks.
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What a bunch of disinfo…
“Oh, I have a case going in…uh…an Oklahoma court…yeah that’s it…Oklahoma, but that pesky Chris Wray at the FBI is personally withholding documents from me. Don’t you worry, though, I got some other stuff in the works that’s gonna take it to those darn Democrats, youbetcha.”
This guy is about as real as Sunday brunch at Chick-Fil-A. This is what his intel handlers want you to hear about his “predicament”.
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That’s a really funny characterization… thank you.
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I think the good guys had to wait for Mueller to get completely out of the way. Now that the report has been delivered, and Mueller fizzled out entirely, Trump can finally deliver the flamethrower of truth.
I believe overwhelming justice is coming and cannot be stopped.
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You may be right Chojun… I am usually a skeptic poster but you just might be right.
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I believe Carter is giddy because he knows the game is up for his persecutors and he is about to be vindicated completely. This is a man giddy with joy of sweet victory in sight. I trust the man -eccentric though he may be. The Dems are in deep trouble and Carter Page’s giddiness is a good omen for the good guys Page knows things that none of us know-and the Dems are not so giddy.
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Carter is giddy (like a school-girl) because he is going to go to the BANK yuge.
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Carter is giddy and Maxine bagof Waters is in deep denial.
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Devin Nunes says the investigation started not with anything from Five Eyes, but a “tip from a foreign politician”. Why “politician” instead of “official”? Yes, many officials are politicians, but this seems to imply the source was not even in government. Does anyone know who Nunes means?
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Alexander Downer – The Australian Ambassador to the U.K.
The one who engaged Papadopoulos May 10th, 2016.
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Ha! As opposed to May 6th. The FBI nimwits! Student branch hugger!
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Also Downer was the Leader of The Opposition for a couple of years and later became the longest serving Foreign Minister (your Sec State) for the conservative Howard Government (1996 to 2007).
Downers are about a 3 or 4 generation political family.
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…may the downers retire in the disgrace they deserve…..
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Downer would be the obvious reference, except that placing the start of the investigation with receipt via IC channels of the “tip” concedes that the investigation began in July 2016. The FBI and NYT can pretend it did, but surely Nunes knows that Downer’s May meeting and subsequent channeling of reports was a downstream element of a pre-existing operation.
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I think the emphasis on “politician” here is meant to highlight that (1) it came from outside of official intelligence channels and professional protocols, which raises a question of credibility, and (2) anyone in a political role acting outside official channels doesn’t deserve the same benefit of doubt as a professional acting in his or her defined capacity.
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In an interview about a month or so ago (with Maria B. I think) Carter Page said straight up that he’s had a decades long relationship with our CIA.
If the assertions made about him in the FISA Affidavit being an agent for a foreign nation etc. were even remotely true he should be in jail right now.
He may have known he was a plant, but probably not that he was being used as a surveillance portal into the Trump campaign, but in any event, he’s sitting on some big secrets.
The fact that Democrat House members haven’t figured this out yet, or even worse, if they know and are so desperate that they just don’t care, is pretty damn mind boggling scary.
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Page was Naval intelligence, so we do not have his full history.
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Wikipoo had a few tidbits.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page
Many here have taken dives into his background. Page was part of the Council on Foreign Relations and did attend some of Madelaine Albright’s junkets.
Much more within.
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The thing to remember about Carter Page–often overlooked–is that he was involved with the FBI and CIA several years prior to the Trump frame-up. He was known to be a target of Russian spy agencies’ attempt to recruit American agents. As such, the FBI did use Page to gain some level of information on the Russian activities, and, (this is the important part) could well have recruited Page to be “the fall guy” of, the “target man” of the FBI’s attempt to get at Trump. It was after the previous working relationship with the American spooks, that Page “decided” to approach the Trump campaign to “offer his services”. Seems pretty convenient that he somehow became the target of the spy efforts; more likely he was a plant working for/with the FBI, whether as a deep agent volunteer or employee, or under coercion–he became the rabbit hole with the FISC warrant to “spy on Page” as the means of spying into the 2nd and 3rd circles of his contacts which surely extended into the entire Trump campaign, and probably, to Trump himself. Page is most likely complicit in the entire affair.
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Which is why a performance like this is nothing more than damage control by his handlers. He has to play “victim” role here, like the other actual patsies, lest his real role as a plant become impossible to conceal.
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Completely agree with Mr. Miller’s assessment…….Page was working for the FBI/CIA as their asset within the Trump campaign. He is complicit.
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…thus the idiot act…..
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All along I thought Page was a CIA/FBI plant because of his previous relationship with the FBI but was unable to explain why he acts like a victim today, thanks for clarifying it for me.
Now we know why he talks a lot and says nothing he was a plant. I guess he could be giddy because Durham just gave him an Immunity deal.
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Within the past day or so a Treeper posted this:
Alexander Downer claims he was not at Cambridge in July 2016 yet in that tweet is a photo of what appears to be Carter Page sitting beside a person who may be Downer. Downer did not respond to questions. The photo appears to be a frame grab from ~33:51 in this video:
Page is in front row on the viewer’s right.
Page was invited to the conference by Steven Schrage, who is also the convenor of the conference as well as a presenter:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160627025112/http://www.crassh.cam.ac.uk/events/26818
The convention’s program also includes presenters Dearlove and Halper. Dearlove and Halper are “partners” with the Cambridge Security Initiative Halper and Downer are associated with Hakluyt.
Given the connections between the individuals and each individual’s connection with Cambridge, it’s entirely possible that it is in fact Downer in the photo. If it is then why would he deny it? But whether it is or isn’t we’re once again back with involvement of UK intelligence in the conspiracy. And that has yet to be explained.
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Can Halper explain his connection with Bill Clinton at Oxford, before Bill was thrown out? Another Rhodes scholar.
http://todayspoliticalviews.com/for-those-staying-informed-corruption/
How many Rhodes Scholars are sketchy deep state operatives?
I heard recently that Rachel Maddow was a Rhodes scholar.
See a pattern?
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I heard recently that Rachel Maddow was a Rhodes scholar.
No way that guy was a Rhodes Scholar.
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Bill was sent, however there has been a story for years that he raped Eileen Wellstone who did not press charges and a State Department-connected rep plucked him out of the country before he finished. Bill never finished his scholarship.
There are many other accounts as well.
https://freedomoutpost.com/was-bill-clinton-expelled-from-oxford-because-he-raped-eileen-wellstone-video/
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So many connections. And they all lean one way.
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You bet, right? Sad [sick]!
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Mayor Pete was a Rhodes scholar.
From the track record of Rhodes scholars,
not a far reach to consider many eligible
for future police line ups.
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Isn’t it…now, who is the selection committee?
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…when the levee breaks…
Trump 2020
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I want to have their babies.
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😆😂😄
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No reason to be concerned?
Hillary Clinton(DNC)to Gianni Pittella to best friend Joseph Mifsud. Who else is Hillarty Clinton connected to O’yes Steele.
The former leader of the European Socialists in the EU Parliament Gianni Pittella called Joseph Mifsud a dear friend in an interview in the Italian media saying “Joseph is my dear friend,” He has all these friends in high positions in government intelligence and academia for supposedly being a well documented Russian agent, and also I don’t think if he was a Russian spy Gianni Pittella would continue to call Joseph Mifsud a dear friend.
Gianni Pittella, a longtime Italian member of the European Parliament, hit the campaign trail this week. Sitting at the back of the Gran Caffe L’Aquila, he warned a group of local businesspeople and supporters of the evils of fascism. Except Pittella wasn’t touring Italy. He was sitting in Philadelphia, trying to convince American voters to oppose an American candidate: Donald Trump.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/07/24/rep-jim-jordan-exposes-the-targeted-hypocrisy-of-muellers-team-some-investigative-liars-ignored/
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Hillary Clinton(DNC)to Gianni Pittella to best friend Joseph Mifsud to Papadopoulos to Alexander Downer – The Australian Ambassador to the U.K. to FBI.
Could it really be that direct?
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At that Philadelphia meeting Pittella said he intends to campaign for Clinton
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Yes, it would be interesting to see the bank records of Gianni Pittella and Joseph Mifsud. Did they get money from the DNC?
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Hillary also has a connection with Papadopoulos: apparently sometime between 2009 and 2011 Papadopoulos was selected by Hillary to attend a conference or for him in Paris, I can’t remember the details now.
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Correction: a conference or a forum.
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I just wrote above that sometimes I think Carter Page was the insurance policy, and now I’m even more convinced of it.
In Mar 2016 Carter Page started working for the Trump campaign as an adviser.
In Aug 2016 Peter Strzok and Lisa Page meet with Andy McCabe and discussed an insurance policy that would kick in if Trump won the election. In Jul 2018 hearings both Lisa Page and Peter Strzok said the insurance policy was burning a source. Peter Strzok said:
That text represented a debate on information that we had received from an extraordinarily sensitive source and method, and that typically when something is that sensitive, if you take action on it, you put it at risk.
In Sep 2016 Yahoo News published info about Carter Page’s contacts with Russians. I say the sourrce-burning was in full effect then, the “news” was leaked to Yahoo by someone in the FBI, perhaps Lisa Page to publicly portray Carter Page as a Russian agent. IIRC, the FISA warrant application actually cites the Yahoo article. Carter Page resigned from the Trump campaign shortly after that article was published.
In Oct 2016 the first FISA warrant on Carter Page was secured. Think about it … why would they get a FISA warrant on someone after that person had resigned from the Trump campaign? My answer comes later. So for this first FISA warrant application, Andy McCabe (how convenient) signed for the FBI and Sally Yates signed for the DOJ, In a Mar 2018 hearing, FBI attorney Trisha Anderson says she normally signs the FISA warrant applications and then sends them up to her superiors for approval, but in the case of Carter Page, McCabe and Yates signed before Anderson had a chance to.
Carter Page has openly admitted that even after he left the Trump campaign in Sep 2016 he continued to contact people on Trump’s team. Why would he do this?? I say it’s because he knew he was the target of the FISA warrant, because he was a willing participant in the scheme. In order for the Trump team to continue to be surveilled, Carter Page had to maintain contact with them, and so that’s exactly what he did.
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Add into my timeline:
In July 2016, Carter Page met with Stefan Halper in Cambridge England at a “research institute symposium” per Fox. If you don’t want to be ensnared in surveillance, if you don’t want to have a record of your conversation, you need to meet in person, right?
At the end of July 2016 the FBI opened the counterintelligence investigation on Trump. Great timing there.
I think we know, or we believe, that the FBI made earlier attempts to secure a FISA warrant on Carter Page perhaps a few times before they eventually succeeded in October 2016. It would have been far better for them to be surveilling the Trump team through Page when he was still an active adviser, right? But they failed to secure the warrant, and the clock was running out. That’s why in August they cooked up the schame to “burn” Carter Page and out him publicly as a (fake) Russian agent via the Yahoo News article, then present that article as evidence in another attempt to secure the FISA warrant which finally succeeded. But there’s no way Page could keep working for the Trump campaign after that Yahoo News article was published, so he resigned, but he continued to maintain contact with the Trump team because that’s the only way the FBI traitors could continue to spy on Trump.
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They also referenced Page in a text message , Strozk asking Page if there was any relation due to the same last name .
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Trying to connect the Carter Page dots:
Naval intelligence
CIA/FBI asset for years vs. Russian intelligence and (what other groups?)
Put on a list (by whom?) as a foreign policy expert as a candidate to join Trump team.
FISA warrant subject of surveillance and 2 hop rule
Not prosecuted
On TV channels disguised as conservative-centric
Must have deep ties to DOJ FBI CIA leadership for over a decade
Was he part of the Arthur Anderson takedown?
Is he a well payed asset for hire?
Why is he still alive if he knows where the bodies are buried?
Does he have family that can be leveraged?
Proves in interviews he won’t sing, therefore maintains his status as asset for hire
What Was his role the campaign?
Who has known him for years or in the early days and why are these background reports not being done?
Today’s conclusion: small group outed him to sew uncertainty in the administration. He’s pissed they outed him so instead of hiding he’s talking on TV but saying nothing to protect his business interests as a spy for hire. Files lawsuits to protect his professional reputation because he knows the public cannot know the dirty deeds he’s done. Now everyone owes him favors for silence. Weighing his options to be team Trump’s deep throat in a new era, or to continue with the NWO bosses he’s worked for the last decade.
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He’s pissed they outed him
I think he was part of the scheme, a plant in the campaign. That’s why he kept contacting the Trump team after he resigned from the campaign. The FISA warrant would have been useless if he had stopped contacting them.
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I still think carter page is a weirdo, smart enough to be left unscathed 💯
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Smart enough to take a deal from Durham.
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Carter Page was CIA and did the exact same operation when the FBI opened a FISA on him back in 2014. Get within “2 levels” of a subject and let the FBI electronically spy.
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I believe our Pres. Trump may have knowingly allowed a few “spies” into his campaign. He knew the other side would play dirty. He is in fact a “very stable genius” 🙂
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Knowingly? I sincerely doubt it. Look at the problems it has caused him.
Trump makes mistakes sometimes. He’s an extremely smart and capable man but he is human, and he was new to politics and wasn’t a puppet and didn’t have the support of his party when he took office. Remember Rodgers’ visit to Trump Tower shortly after Trump won the election? Trump moved his entire transition team to his property in NJ after that meeting. i think all of this stuff is just as shocking to Trump as it is to us. Actually more so to Trump because he knows more, being privvy to more info.
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Today I decided to take a step back, and ask “What would Gilbert and Sullivan do with people like this”? The answer, as often, comes from “The Mikado”.
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One thing I never see mentioned is that the Dept. of Just-Us knows well how many cases defense attorney’s would be opening on behalf of clients previously convicted under similar circumstances. A parallel situation presented when it was proven the fbi “forensics” lab was tampering with evidence. Any of you remember it? I do. And now I’d venture a guess that what this punk Weissmann did could keep them busy for years. Just-Us KNOWS this and more. And those of you hoping Barr and his guy up in CT. will start popping indictments… I wouldn’t. A long way to go before Grandma’s house is in sight. If it ever is at all.
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How much money did the crook Robert Mueller collect over the past two years doing nothing while Andrew Weismann and the Democrat team ran wild? What part of the 25M did Mueller make off with?
“Harrumph. I’m not going to answer that question.”
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If you listen to the very end of this interview, Carter Page mentions that he has filed lawsuits against various entities for the false allegations made against him but that his cases have so far been stymied but none other than current FBI Director Chris Wray, who he says has been “stonewalling” and refusing to turn over documents.
What a shock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When is Trump going to get rid of the rest of the thugs in his administration??
I’m so sick and tired of all this crap.
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It’s always been my view Carter page was part of the plot: a man deep in intelligence who plays the fool. When Carter page talks notice that like Mueller he doesn’t want to talk about anything. In my view he was completely aware that he was being used for the purpose of spying on Trump and his campaign. Carter page was an FBIUCE. That is why he has always been a man seemingly unafraid of any consequences and why he was never charged with anything and at the same time never given any immunity.
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Getting an honest DOJ and AG is like playing whack a mole: as soon as you knock one down another one pops up. The moles of the corrupt family of corrupt officials who have made the way up through the decades. It is unlikely That’s a non-corrupted mole will pop up from the ranks of the corrupt. Perhaps the message to trump and other’s is that no matter how many of us you get rid of you still have to choose from one of us. I expect bar to be similar to the others, putting on a show but ultimately covering it all up.
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Correction: I expect Barr’s to be similar to the others……
Also, common sense and history make that prediction the most likely, in spite of our hopes and dreams.
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Hey – Steven Schrage worked for Romney for America….
https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-schrage-96b2907/
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Edit: Romney for President
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