Generational Déjà Vu – Iran Seizes British Oil Tanker in the Strait of Hormuz…

Iran reports they have seized another oil tanker in the Strait of Hormuz, in an apparent effort to increase hostilities in the region and make a larger conflict with the U.S. and western allies.  All of this activity has a ring of familiarity to it from the late 1980’s.

In ’87 and ’88 the U.S. took over patrolling the strait to afford safe passage for Kuwait tankers and western-flagged ships. Eventually, following the Iranian attack on a U.S. frigate (USS Samuel B Roberts), there were several U.S-Iran military fights.

It looks like Iran is attempting to provoke a similar scenario today.  Only this time former President Obama and former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry appear to be assisting the Iranian government in their political efforts.  As incredible as it might sound at first blush, if Iran kills or captures any American military members in the modern version of the conflict – Obama and Kerry will be working directly for the enemy.  FUBAR:

WASHINGTON – Tehran, Iran — Iran’s Revolutionary Guard says it has seized British oil tanker, the Stena Impero, in the Strait of Hormuz. The announcement comes one day after the U.S. said it destroyed an Iranian drone.

The military branch said the tanker over “non-compliance with international maritime laws and regulations” and has transferred the vessel to an Iranian port.

The company that owns the tanker, Stena Bulk and Northern Marine Management, said the vessel was approached by unidentified small crafts and a helicopter on Wednesday. “We are presently unable to contact the vessel which is now heading north towards Iran,” the company said in a statement. (read more)

Stand back and look at this from a domestic and geopolitical standpoint and there’s a significant amount of overlay.

The most severe elements of the deepest state, the neocons (McCain coalition) and the interests of Obama/Kerry are converging -at least ideologically and domestically- to work on removal of their natural enemy, President Trump 2020.   Meanwhile multiple international government interests (China, Russia, Iran, et al), mostly based on economics, tend to find a useful and convenient alignment.  Sprinkle the left wing media narratives (see: Ilhan Omar writ large) atop the larger assembly and this entire scenario becomes a bit more concerning.

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In this rapid pace of modern communication; and absent any cohesion from patriotism and uniting American values; the politics of far-leftist ideology now engages in international issues and puts the U.S. military at risk of conflict as an outcome of domestic political alignment.

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294 Responses to Generational Déjà Vu – Iran Seizes British Oil Tanker in the Strait of Hormuz…

  1. chojun says:

    The price of oil has been falling. That’s the impetus here, I feel.

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    • Coastal Oak says:

      Let us not forget the the UK 🇬🇧 literally pirated an Iranian 🇮🇷 tanker around July 4th. The act was illegal. Iran warned the UK that they’d pay them back. I’m this one instance I reluctantly find myself agreeing with Iran on this one.

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  2. snellvillebob says:

    It’s time to create daily convoys thru.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Yeah, and I say let UK take the lead on this
      It’s their two tankers that have been seized, after all

      Once UK warships start taking some incoming fire, Europe no longer has this excuse that Iran is a cooperative regime and Europe should double-deal by skirting US sanctions on them

      Put up or shut up, Europe

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  3. MDNA I says:

    FL Senator Marco Rubio, 13 May 2019:

    “Rubio Urges DOJ to Investigate Whether Former Secretary of State Kerry Violated the Logan Act or FARA”

    “Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) today urged the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate whether former Secretary of State John F. Kerry’s actions since leaving office related to the Iran nuclear deal violate the Logan Act or the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).[…] Rubio previously urged Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate the matter.”

    https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2019/5/rubio-urges-doj-to-investigate-whether-former-secretary-of-state-kerry-violate-the-logan-act-or-fara

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  4. beachbum31 says:

    somebody tweet Kerry: why cant you just be Matt Lauer?

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  5. WSB says:

    Notice how this occurs on a Friday at ‘document dump’ time? The talking heads are writing their script and getting ready for the 6PM News. I wonder if PT will create a shiny object on Saturday night?

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  6. Truett Harris says:

    This looks like an internal fight for power in Iran. The IRGC are calling these military shots. I believe they have been put in time-out by the Ayatollahs while trying to deal with the brutal economic pain President Trump is inflicting on the average Iranian. If America or another company attacks Iran, the IRCG becomes vital again. If not, the IRCG is being bled white by President Trump with a Death by 1000 Sanction Cuts.

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    • yucki says:

      No.
      The IRGC is the PERSONAL, military arm of the Ayatollahs.
      Its allegiance is to the Chief of the Twisted, NOT to the Islamic Republic of Iran (i.e. the Iranian Armed Forces).

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      • yucki says:

        The IRGC is transnational, imperialist. Calling itself a “Shia NATO” sounds better to Western infidels than ummah en marche.

        Khameini is estimated to have a PERSONAL fortune in excess of $200 BILLION. The people of Iran, the nation itself will starve, but an army bent on Apocalypse will do or die.

        IRGC strategist proposes exporting “Sacred Defense” culture to proxies

        Iran’s culture of “Sacred Defense” can be exported to all of Iran’s proxies in the region according to a senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) strategist, the semi-official Tasnim news agency reported on Friday.

        “Today, what can be given to Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Popular Mobilization Forces in Iraq and Ansar Allah in Yemen is the Sacred Defense culture,” said Hassan Abbasi, an IRGC officer who heads its strategic think tank the Center for Doctrinal Strategic Studies.

        The “Sacred Defense” is a term used by Iran to refer to the eight-year-long war with Iraq. Iran celebrates “Sacred Defense Week” every year with military parades…

        Abbasi claimed that Qasem Soleimani, the commander of the IRGC’s Quds Force, has created a “Shiite NATO” in Syria.

        “Shiites of the world gathered under the command of commander Qasem Soleimani and created a Shiite NATO in Syria and rescued 65 percent of Syria from under the control of ISIS,” he said.…

        https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2019/07/12/IRGC-strategist-proposes-exporting-Sacred-Defense-culture-to-proxies.html

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  7. beachbum31 says:

    The Mothers of All Falkland’s

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  8. gvillewill says:

    I have a question. From what I have read today. The Brits seized an Iranian tanker last week for allegedly trying to smuggle oil into Syria. Iran then told the Brits straight up that they intended to respond in kind the first chance they got.
    Why in the world was the UK not escorting their flagged vessels?????

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    • Robert Smith says:

      I don’t think they really have the capability, at least without a lot of lead time.

      They figure the US will take care of it anyway.

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      • Maquis says:

        Or, UK deep staters left their guard down on purpose.
        When was Kerry or Zero in the UK last?

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      • Hoosier says:

        I honestly don’t think we should come to the rescue. We should let Europe and especially perfidious albion feel what it is like to deal with them. Kind of holding a mirror up to those peksniffians.

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        • agree. Deep state Europe is all too likely collaborating with our deep state to get rid of Trump and like our deep state are perfectly happy to destroy Great Britain to win. These people do not believe in countries and consider themselves outside of citizenship to any nation, despite what their passports say.

          They have crowned themselves and have made themselves immune to all the laws they decree

          Globalists expected to have all borders revoked with Hillary’s win.

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    • Bullseye says:

      Two words: Teresa may

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  9. Patty in Porterville says:

    I am probably very naive and uninformed but I don’t see this as our problem. Iran seized a British oil tanker. Let the Brits deal with it. In light of England’s recent participation in a coup against our President, I don’t think we should lift a finger unless and until the Brits come on hands and knees with written confessions and apologies regarding their actions against President Trump.

    If I am terribly wrong please explain why we should rush to save them.

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    • Not that this justifies our involvement but it may explain it:

      Motive: Hegemony of the Petro Dollar perhaps?

      Don’t forget the BIS sits atop the international financial pyramid and uses the USD as it’s coin of the realm.

      Want to peek under the the hood of the Luciferian Left? Watch 1-3 of this if you can:

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      • FrankieZee says:

        Kind of makes you wonder if Epstein was involved in something like this. I would not be surprised if there were child rituals on Pedo Island. Some serious scary shit. Is Trump that Light in the Dark?

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        • muckeyduck says:

          Is Trump the light in the darkness? My first instinct upon considering that statement was one of sacrilege, to proclaim a man to be the light instead of God himself. But then I considered that “what reflects the light” and the “source of the light” are two different things. To say I can see the moon shining does not diminish the brightness of the sun, because the moon is only reflecting the suns light. Likewise, I reason that Trump, (a human agent) can be the light, but he is not the source of the light, that is Jesus Christ.

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      • Patty in Porterville says:

        MassiveDeplorable, I did watch the entire 1st segment. I won’t watch more. I am sickened by what he said. Justification? No way. Explanation, possibly yes. God please protect us from such evil.

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      • Hoosier says:

        I may be the only one here to watch this without subtitles. I happen to speak Dutch.

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      • muckeyduck says:

        Decent people reject this type of revelation, because they are unable to conceive that this level of evil exist. I use to be one of them. I actually tried to share some of what is happening to the young children in some of the Satanic groups that have been exposed, and my sister yelled, “Stop”, I don’t want to hear about that” as though it was too shocking to bring into reality, like hearing it would cause mental trauma. And their is indeed a risk of this.

        If you consider how our entire society has fallen into moral depravity, against what this man says, it really make it clear that this is not something that happened as thought through a natural entropy processes, but we have been steered to this point by design.

        Here is the biggest difficulty: How does one take this knowledge, and awaken other people in a way so as not to appear a nutty conspiracy theorist, or like the crazy man shouting from the street curve, “The end is near”!

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      • muckeyduck says:

        Just as this revelation forces of consider reality on a different level, I think we must guard against defining a group, or any number of people as the source of this evil, as though taking the people out would eliminate the evil.

        One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them – Tolkien’s Warning and a Great Lesson We Need To Keep close.

        In the Hobbit, and Ring Trilogy, there is a deep meaning of Good and Evil behind the ring. and there is great wisdom in the tale for us.

        For those of us who want to use the evil tactics to defeat evil Tolkien said, “You can’t fight the Enemy with his own Ring without turning into an Enemy.” Even peering into the ways of the enemy is dangerous. Elrond explains, “It is perilous to study too deeply the arts of the Enemy, for good or for ill.”

        Those who want to use Evil to achieve a Good end, don’t understand the nature of Evil. When Frodo offers the ring to the wise Gandalf he says:

        “No! With that power I should have power too great and terrible. And over me the Ring would gain a power still greater and more deadly! Do not tempt me! For I do not wish to become like the Dark Lord himself. Yet the way of the Ring to my heart is by pity, pity for weakness and the desire of strength to do good. Do not tempt me! I dare not take it, not even to keep it safe, unused”

        Understand, that using the power the wrong way, is not the bad thing, it is the power itself that is bad.

        Our wise founding fathers understood the nature of power. In every person, even the best among us, there exist Good and Evil. If a person welds power(The Ring), that power itself will by temptation corrupt the Good and it will become Evil. And a person who posses greatness already, will become all the more evil.

        Regarding centralized power, in my view, the evil does not exist because evil people govern, it is that controlling power to govern that is the evil. This is why our Founders intended men to govern themselves. Therefore, as long as the centralized institution of government power exist, the evil will exist no matter who controls the institution.

        The reason why both Gandalf and Galadriel fear the power of the Ring is that they recognize that it was made to do bad, and therefore any good action made by it will turn into evil. In the words of the Lord of Rivendell, Elrond,

        “We cannot use the Ruling Ring. That we now know too well. It belongs to Sauron and was made by him alone, and is altogether evil. Its strength is too great for anyone to wield at will, save only those who have already a great power of their own. But for them it holds an even deadlier peril. The very desire of it corrupts the heart. If any of the Wise should with this Ring overthrow the Lord of Mordor, using his own arts, he would then set himself on Sauron’s throne, and yet another Dark Lord would appear. And that is another reason why the Ring should be destroyed: as long as it is in the world it will be a danger even to the Wise. For nothing is evil in the beginning. Even Sauron was not so.

        Frodo speaks these words, of sacrifice, in his final farewell to Sam as he departs for the Grey Haven:

        I tried to save the Shire, and it has been saved, but not for me. It must often be so Sam, when things are in danger some one has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them.”

        And so patriots, we must remember this, that we do not fight to preserve life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness for ourselves alone, but for humanity.

        Quotes taken from: https://mises.org/library/tolkien-v-power

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        • Your written conclusion: “the evil does not exist because evil people govern, it is that controlling power to govern that is the evil.” IMO misses the bulls eye.
          I believe that there is pure evil- he is spirit, created, fallen and fierce because he knows his time is short. He is “…the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan” who’s language is lies: “You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
          Of these types Jesus says: “You belong to your father the devil,and you want to carry out your father’s desire.”

          No, it’s not controlling power that corrupts. It is Satan whom they serve who deceives, corrupts and kills. “the thief is come to steal, kill and destroy”

          Rev. 20:2, ,Jn 8:44, Jn 10:10

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      • Super Elite says:

        Solomon of the Bible participated in child sacrifices. However he repented and wrote the book of Ecclesiastes.

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  10. KnowSERENoFear says:

    Why care at all? How about we remove ALL our Navy from the Middle East. Leave all oil tankers vulnerable in the area. Then sell OUR oil on the cheap and insure delivery via US Navy protection of ships flying US flags.

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    • Orygun says:

      President Trump did make a point of the fact that none of that oil is ours and the countries who benefit from the oil need to provide their own escorts and security.
      No more free rides.

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  11. iPack says:

    An attempt to implicate Trump in a war and tank the economy.

    Obama/Brennan is written all over it.

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    • grumpyqs says:

      My gut is on fire too! Mueller holds his public testimony to Congress. The Jihad Squad can erupt over anything. Iran seems to be getting inside signals from “somebody”. Been no noise from NK-China lately. Border could erupt at any time. I SMELL A RAT! Something obviously well coordinated, international and gets the MSM screaming; to pressure POTUS into saying or doing something wrong.

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    • swissik says:

      Bolton and probably Pompeo, definitely pseudo conservatives like Bill Crystal chomping at the bit for war.

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      • underwhelmingposter says:

        I do not think either of them are wanting war! Both are accomplished diplomats and are very genuine in their concerns, but angling for war. I don’t think so!

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  12. CNN_sucks says:

    Will the british play feckless chicken again? When hitler annex sudenland, austria, Czech…not a peep. They only realized their mistake after poland. Deja vu?

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  13. Elric VIII says:

    The Iranians haven’t really tweaked the U.S. yet. If they go too far I’m sure we already have the plans and military assets to begin Operation Preying Mantis II: The Finale. We destroyed half their navy in Operation Preying Mantis. This time we have President Donald Trump, and there will be no more half measures.

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    • dallasdan says:

      A Dem amendment to the new defense appropriation bill will prohibit the President from launching aggression against Iran without prior Congressional approval. However, it has a giant loophole, that being the President is unrestricted in his response if Iran strikes American assets first.

      That amendment, together with numerous others intended to thwart defense-related MAGA initiatives, will survive Senate scrutiny of the defense appropriations bill and the President will have to sign it with the shackles on his behavior included (such as no diversion of funds for the wall). If he vetoes it, the military will be put in jeopardy, and the Dems know the President won’t let that happen. They have already won that battle twice over the President’s vocal condemnations.

      IMO, Iran will avoid attacking American assets to preclude the President from acting against them militarily. Hence, the Brits and other bystanders will continue to be the objects of Iranian aggression.

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      • trialbytruth says:

        Trump has a dozen proxies he could send in if he chooses to initiate.

        I don’t think he will BUT who’s oil was being delivered??? If it’s Saudi they have an impressive army of commandos at there disposal. If they were to request some eye in the sky help I am positive we would oblige. A Saudi seal team painting anti aircraft batteries and port protection installations while another team boards the tankers recovers crew and possibly sails them back out of the harbor.

        Iran is a paper tiger. Russia has provided good air defense but not much else. My guess is their air force would be grounded.

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  14. Akindole says:

    Reagan also cleaned their clock.

    And, he was a lightweight compared to VSGPOTUS.

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  15. relieveddeplorable says:

    Now would be a great time for the US to tell Great Britain to put up or shut up. You want us to protect your tankers you gotta pay for it or else bring your assets to the strait and defend your tankers yourself. If we’re gonna do it, we’re going to do it our way and will have your unequivocal public support…and no that is not negotiable. Escort our stuff through the strait and shoot anything that moves toward a tanker that is under a US flag. That goes for any other country within or outside of NATO. Pay for services performed…we could make a price chart and everything..

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    • Maquis says:

      We are not mercenaries. We are reluctant participants in the defense of Civilization. It is an existential fight, has always been, and only complete fidelity to the values and survival of Western Civilization will do. That requires sacrifice far beyond monetary concerns, though PDJT is right to demand more participation in that regard.

      Remember, NATO contributions aren’t simply payments to the US for a nuclear umbrella and huge armed forces, it also demands each participant contribute a certain portion of their GDP to the creation and maintenance of their own forces; this is where most cheating takes place. Standing up forces and integrating them with NATO goes beyond a financial sacrifice, it’s literally skin in the game and ownership of their degree of effectiveness.

      PDJT knows that, and while we only hear about financial contributions, he is leveraging all of the above.

      So I pretty much agree with your thoughts on the matter, but pushing British and other forces to deploy and defend their shipping is the approach I favor. Skin in the game. Make European-Iranian-Love virtue signaling a very expensive proposition.

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    • sturmudgeon says:

      relieved: “Now would be a great time for the US to tell Great Britain to put up or shut up. You want us to protect your tankers you gotta pay for it or else bring your assets to the strait and defend your tankers yourself.”

      You should have stopped your post at the end of your FIRST SENTENCE.

      Pres. Trump has helped to make us energy independent.

      Absolutely no need to become the ‘protection’ of those who have proven to be anti-American & anti-Trump. Time for ‘those others’ to step up and provide for themselves.

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  16. KnowSERENoFear says:

    How ‘bout, after a declared war by Congress, we Rod from God the crap out of the Iranian government. Then TAKE Iran as our 51st state. Then setup US military bases within our new state. And cook bacon so that the smell moves across ME!

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  17. MaineCoon says:

    #BREAKING: British Foreign Secretary warns Iran of “dire consequences” if captured British tanker is not released https://t.co/91sCpdHvvr— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) July 19, 2019

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    • Robert Smith says:

      I assume the UK means more sanctions.

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    • dallasdan says:

      Talking smack to the Iranians is ineffective. You must hit them in the mouth, physically or economically. to capture their attention. IMO, the Brits have earned no credibility in doing either.

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      • Raptor says:

        From the viewpoint of my small branch here, our fearless leader at this site has suggested that our Foreign policy team does not win by reacting with military action. That is exactly what the Obama/Kerry/Iran axis wants, Dan…
        Expect sanctions and tariffs unless THEY start a war.
        Trust Trump, he’s got this…

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        • dallasdan says:

          My trust in the President is complete.

          Note that my Iranian “attention-getting” methodology included “or economically.” I agree that unless and until American assets or personnel are attacked, the economic stranglehold will continue, and likely become tighter.

          However, if American assets or servicemen are harmed, I anticipate the President will immediately deliver a very physical response.

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    • sturmudgeon says:

      Maine; If you do not knock a bully on his ass at the first encounter, you are in for a lot of pain and discomfort.

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  18. MaineCoon says:

    ELINT News retweeted

    U.S. military says that unarmed surveillance aircraft, like the P-3 and P-8, are monitoring the situation in the Strait of Hormuz and the U.S. military has been in contact with ships in the area to "ensure their safety."— Idrees Ali (@idreesali114) July 19, 2019

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  19. MaineCoon says:

    Click link to see map

    Saudi King approves additional deployment of US troops to raise the level of joint action in defense of the security and stability of the region https://t.co/WAgDIDpDG7 via @aawsat_News #Iran pic.twitter.com/UjhDVZwg9k— Liveuamap MiddleEast (@lummideast) July 19, 2019

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  20. MVW says:

    Ok, so Iran is taking advice from John Kerry and Barak Obama??????? LOL!!!!! I find that hard to believe since Iran knows how stupid those 2 are. The coup put together by the idiot Brennan, sanctioned by Obama has absolutely failed. Clintons’ pay to play scheme has dried up. Trump is dancing the DimwhitCrats like a puppeteer. Globalists look like complete incompetents against Trump. (Maybe off world aliens are working with him? Whatever, don’t pick the opposing side).

    No. Iran is desperate. Sanctions are killing the Iranian leadership’s hold on Iran. By the time Trump is done with these too smart by half Iranian Clergy Iran will have kicked them out and possibly hanged them.

    Once again, the strategy of ‘Quicksand’ is working… the more Iran struggles, the faster they get sucked down. Ask yourself, ‘How many Iranian supporters are left in Europe now?’

    I hate to say it, but maybe Iran will double down and hijack another useless tanker. That would seal it. Iran is buckling and will soon cave. Break out the popcorn.

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  21. Julia Adams says:

    Why not let the Mayor of London solve this act of piracy against HMS Royal Maritime Fleet? Fat chance

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  22. MaineCoon says:

    Things I’m struck by tonight as Iran situation escalates1. Theresa May is not on tonight’s Cobr meeting, not even by secure videolink2. Boris Johnson had a secret call with Donald Trump yesterday which we discovered from US media. BJ team confirm but won’t say what discussed— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) July 19, 2019

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    • Retired USMC says:

      And what if China is working with them….

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      • Dutchman says:

        Thats my thought. More broadly, ALL the forces lined up against “Trump” are working together to undermine him, ANY WAY THEY CAN.
        If you are a GLOBALIST, you don’t see this as TREASON, cause the very concept is foriegn to you.

        You are responding to a “higher calling” than mere,allegiance to the country of your birth.

        And, they (the enemy) are DESPERATE.
        China is screwed, Iran is screwed, the multinational corps are screwed, if PDJT wins reelection.

        And they know there is NO WAY they can beat him at the ballot box, even with ballot fraud.

        Impeachment is dead, and they KNOW it.
        So, Okerrybama have been working since the election, on uniting foriegn interests, to create an international incident, a crises to try to derail him.

        He HAS his line in the sand; he has stated it unequivocally.
        Iran will NOT be allowed to have a Nuclear weopon.

        And so, they openly announce they are upping processing beyond limits set by the so called agreement.

        He doesn’t respond, because he bavked out of the agreement, long time ago.

        They shoot down a drone, he ignores it.
        Refusing to be drawn in over an unarmed plane. BUT, adds to his line in sand; Mess with American military personell, and you will pay a,steep price.

        So, they bomb some tankers, and steal others,…NOT OURS.

        I suspect PDJT won’t be drawn in, unless they cross his lines. If they do, again I suspect, a joint operation, Israel, Saudi Arabia and U.S. will destroy Irans navy and air force, and every nuke or ballistic missile development site we can hit.

        NO boots on the ground, mut if they are they will be Saudi.

        They are trying to draw him in, he is refusing being drawn in. They want a half assed “proportional responce”, hence half measures.

        Kerry, Obama and Brennan need some lead poisoning, blindfold and cigarette optional, but they won’t get it.

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        • WRB says:

          I think Iran is trying to drive up the cost of oil, assuming that will cause others (europe, for example) to cheat and buy Iranian oil at bargain prices on the sly. Or at least cause the rest of the world to put political pressure on the US to “de-escalate” and drop the sanctions.

          But in this scenario, China would suffer in the short term, because it imports lots of oil. Given that China is already in economic distress due to US tariffs, and a slow down in investment, it is unlikely (in my opinion) that China is supporting Iran’s actions. But if they are involved, it will hurt them, not us.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Conmunisms core includes the elimination of ALL religions, enforcing indoctrination to make collectivism and the,State the new diety, and promising Heaven (utopia) here on earth is just around the corner.

            And yet, we see many signs of an unholy alliance between Conmunism and Islam, which would SEEM anti-thetical.
            Accusations of Islamaphobia combined with accusations of homophobia, from the same mouths.
            China incarcerating over a million muslims, and yet Iran and China working together against the great Satan.
            I THINK China is as desperate as their US agents are. They are DESPERATE to get PDJT out of office. The actual situation hasn’t reached desperation for them YET, but they can SEE where it is inevitably headed.
            So, they would take a short term hit, gladly if they thought it could drive PDJT from office.
            Remember the hiker who cut off his own arm, cause otherwise he was gonna die?,…Like THAT.

            Oh, and if Iran thinks this is going to cause political pressure which will cause PDJT to change his position,…well than they don’t know DJT, LOL!

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            • Islam is like feminists. They pick where they will battle and abandon those who truly need help, because it’s power, money and favored status for the ring leaders, not really interest in all

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              • Dutchman says:

                Agreed. The reason Islam and Conmunism have no problem aligning, is because underneath the ideology, which is to fool both the useful idiots, and the next level ‘true believers’ both have a top level that know the ideology is

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              • Dutchman says:

                Damn phone. Didn’t mean to hit send. At top level, both know their ideology is crap; its,all about achieving power, and maintaining it thru control.

                Same control freak, consciounsless monsters, just different iteration.

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        • dallasdan says:

          “I suspect PDJT won’t be drawn in, unless they cross his lines.”

          Agree. Taunting alone won’t provoke the President into military action.

          I also agree, if my perception of your thinking is correct, that Obama, Kerry, and Brennan are Iran’s principal advisors in this ongoing, anti-American operation.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Yup. It certainly has the hallmarks; Stupidity, Hubris and grossly underestimating DJT.
            GOT to be coming from Obama, same place all the direction to Congressional Dems is coming from, with same hallmarks, and BTW, same chance of success,…
            -0-.

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  23. MaineCoon says:

    According to our tracking history since 2017, the MESDAR has picked up crude oil from Saudi a number of times, and each delivery went to China thereafter. Iran may not likely want to hold that tanker too long. China is their biggest customer. #OOTT— TankerTrackers.com, Inc.⚓️🛢 (@TankerTrackers) July 19, 2019

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  24. youme says:

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  25. youme says:

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  26. TreeClimber says:

    They’re still part of the EU, right? Where’s the rest of NATO? Let Europe sort out Europe’s problems for a change, instead of bitching at/about us all the time and then expecting us to defend their sorry asses. Talk about a co-dependent relationship…

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    • Robert Smith says:

      NATO is run like a social jobs program. I think they have something like a couple million total people, but can deploy almost nothing. And by “deploy” I mean with US airlift. I don’t think any country really has airlift.

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  27. Cocoon says:

    Where’s that EU Navy/Military?
    Oh yeah, that’s right there is none.
    Good thing Trump is building up NAFTA!
    More reason for Brexit.

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  28. youme says:

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  29. youme says:

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  30. Since UK isn’t really very English anymore, and these ships are said to not have English crewmen, it makes one wonder if *someone* turned off the tracker intentionally, to serve Iran’s purposes.

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  31. Trent Telenko says:

    Pres Trump won’t act unless formally notified of an attack on Britain via the relevant mutual defense treaty.

    P.M May simply will not do so.

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  32. freepetta says:

    I’ve said this since before 9/11 and I’m going to repeat it. Iran is purposely escalating the situation it is a trap. I’ve been through 2 terrorist bombings in NYC just like President Trump. They are here, they’ve been here!!! Render them useless before it’s too late.

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  33. MaineCoon says:

    Dr. Steve Pieczenik discusses the ~90++ year history of UK & Iran (Persia). The video was taped 1 week ago.

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  34. NoTwoSystemsOnlyOneChiCom says:

    Deja vu from Beirut. He just happened to be in the area fighting for the resistance. Just like the never-ending Communist revolution.
    https://www.albawaba.com/news/iran-wants-lebanon-out-all-regional-crises-1297975

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  35. TKA says:

    Kinda begs the question. If North Korea is a three letter construct, why couldn’t Iran be the same?

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  36. OhNoYouDont says:

    TAMPA, Fla., July 19, 2019 —
    U.S. Central Command is developing a multinational maritime effort, Operation Sentinel, to increase surveillance of and security in key waterways in the Middle East to ensure freedom of navigation in light of recent events in the Arabian Gulf region.

    The goal of Operation Sentinel is to promote maritime stability, ensure safe passage, and de-escalate tensions in international waters throughout the Arabian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz, the Bab el-Mandeb Strait (BAM) and the Gulf of Oman.

    This maritime security framework will enable nations to provide escort to their flagged vessels while taking advantage of the cooperation of participating nations for coordination and enhanced maritime domain awareness and surveillance.

    While the United States has committed to supporting this initiative, contributions and leadership from regional and international partners will be required to succeed.

    U.S. officials continue to coordinate with allies and partners in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East on the details and capabilities required for Operation Sentinel to enable freedom of navigation in the region and protect vital shipping lanes.

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  37. But, once again, we have an “entirely different” Commander-in-Chief who is actually in charge. A person who first-of-all realizes that “it is a UK tanker,” and perhaps most importantly, “tomorrow is another day.”

    Yes, “politics of ideologies” once again put our nation “at risk of” military conflict … but that really does depend on the Commander-in-Chief, now doesn’t it? (Actually, in this case it first depends on the UK.)

    “Tomorrow is another day.” The Iranians are playing poker – or maybe, Russian Roulette. The United States (and perhaps, also the UK) is playing chess.

    “Sure, we all know what ‘an ordinary American President’ would do” … hell, he might land on an aircraft carrier underneath a big banner that says “Mission Accomplished!” But, not this time.

    Oh, no. Not this time!

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  38. MaineCoon says:

    UK COBRA meeting statement. pic.twitter.com/rGqNjeCTXK— The Brit (@TheBrit96) July 20, 2019

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  39. MaineCoon says:

    Finally.

    U.S. Central Command Statement on Operation Sentinel
    U.S. Central Command

    TAMPA, Fla., July 19, 2019 —
    U.S. Central Command is developing a multinational maritime effort, Operation Sentinel, to increase surveillance of and security in key waterways in the Middle East to ensure freedom of navigation in light of recent events in the Arabian Gulf region.

    The goal of Operation Sentinel is to promote maritime stability, ensure safe passage, and de-escalate tensions in international waters throughout the Arabian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz, the Bab el-Mandeb Strait (BAM) and the Gulf of Oman.

    This maritime security framework will enable nations to provide escort to their flagged vessels while taking advantage of the cooperation of participating nations for coordination and enhanced maritime domain awareness and surveillance.

    While the United States has committed to supporting this initiative, contributions and leadership from regional and international partners will be required to succeed.

    U.S. officials continue to coordinate with allies and partners in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East on the details and capabilities required for Operation Sentinel to enable freedom of navigation in the region and protect vital shipping lanes.

    https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/STATEMENTS/Statements-View/Article/1911282/us-central-command-statement-on-operation-sentinel/utm_source/hootsuite/

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  40. MaineCoon says:

    Recap of what Iran is missing:SEA SHARK: A foreign tanker that would shuttle 1mn barrels to Syria. Was seized by Egypt late last year.HAPPINESS I: Partially laden VLCC with 1.2 mn barrels aboard. Stuck in Jeddah due to engine failure.GRACE 1: Seized in Gibraltar with 2.1 MB— TankerTrackers.com, Inc.⚓️🛢 (@TankerTrackers) July 20, 2019

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  41. mtk says:

    With the vote that took place in Congess on July 12th.
    The second time such a vote has occurred that attaches the War Power Act to the budget.

    PDJT should proactively to stage the need to pre-emptively strike an understanding (a responce put on the congressional record) that Iran does not recognize the Congress’s summer break schedule nor RESIST WE MUCH hoopla.

    Meaning the broad bush(the wording) to limit the Executive towards invoking War Powers Act IS THROWN back onto Congress(as in NOT a legitimate means a STAGE a narritive that the President is acting outside the Nation’s interests by running afoul of the Congressional wording)

    The fact is President is being helmed(by second tanker inpounded) in legislatively, and should be rebutted by citing that our allies are being forced into the front lines in the Straights by Congress acting to limiting Constitutionality the ability of the President to invoke War Powers Act.

    As such, at any moment the President will have call apon Congress to approve a fullbmeasured responce to Iran provocations.

    My take and understanding as to a measured responce, is in the full weight of the USAN and USAF to ruin Iran’s Naval forces in the straights by a full OBLIGATION of their GULF NAVAL forces and should be on the table as a MEASURED responce.

    Suffice it say, the July 12th vote, should be Consituitional invalide in the face wonton realities.

    What this July 12th vote is seeking, “Is a means to declare PDJT acting outside of legislative norms(thus impeachable) and seek to hamstring any action to safe guard USA interests in the Gulf to an issue of, “If the President acts without consulting Congress then he is subject to an impeachable narrative in the MSM.”

    Yah right, like CentCom needs to take a fortnight to run through Congress what they could do in a D-Day plus eight hours to Iran’s entire Naval forces in the Gulf.

    Basically, the Haraye Protective Regions would cease to exist as a Iranian National Naval Strike Force. Meaning if it is larger than a row boat(not struck) than the argument could be made that the USA Congress is acting to enhance enemy combatants under an TDS ideology.

    Read it for what it is worth.
    The left loves to pole vault through argumentational logic, lets see how the Progressives navigate this bit reality.

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  42. Petrel says:

    Garrison Hall [above] tells us that: “the UK no longer has an effective Navy. For a couple of decades now, it has systematically reduced itself to a coastal defence force.”

    He continues: “After seizing an Iranian flagged tanker, the UK surely knew that this kind of Iranian response would most likely happen. . . The hard truth is that the British simply didn’t have any ships to send.”

    Well, lacking ships, the UK might have airmailed suitably armed marines to any oil tankers passing through the Straights of Hormuz. But no, the Iranians simply boarded the undefended tankers from diminutive speed boats.

    If the UK, a former sea power is so obtuse about maritime tactics, do we really need the UK as an ally?

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  43. ezgoer says:

    The Royal Navy has been shrunk down to about 7 ships, right? Sad. Maybe the EU Navy can help them out.

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  44. bluebongo says:

    Iran stepped right up to the red line with ESGPOTUSDJT, but will not cross it. He made it clear we are not going to escalate an attack by taking Iranian lives unless they draw American blood. So, in response, the mullahs are instead picking a fight with an ally in an attempt to draw us in.

    Do not look for us to do anything other than provide technical assistance to any UK response, i.e. surveillance support. But this strategy on the Iranian’s part only drives a further wedge between any possible attempt to salvage the nuclear deal with EU and pushes our allies closer to us and our reason for terminating the agreement in the first place. They are “nuking” their own nose despite their face.

    An excellent strategy by our ESG.

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  45. Petrel says:

    Blue — Might the Iranian leadership have taken a leaf out of President Trump’s NoKo playbook — shadowboxing first, then a meeting in some quiet neutral place. Consider the situation so far:

    1. Iranians take out an unmaned US drone.
    2. The US Deep State demands the US go to war.
    3. President Trump doesn’t retaliate, with loss of 150 + Iranians, and says he would like to meet & negotiate with Iran.
    4. Iranians say absolutely not — ‘Death to America’ etc.
    5. As a favor to the US Deep State [?] the UK grabs an Iranian tanker.
    6. Iranians grab a UK tanker — with no loss of life.
    7. The US Deep State demands the US go to war.
    8. President Trump says the UK and Iran need to negotiate & exchange their mis-placed tankers.
    * * * *
    9. Iranians agree to meet & negotiate — first with the UK and then with President Trump?

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  46. Jackson says:

    England seized an Iranian ship a few weeks ago bound for Syria. This is merely their response.

    Any story or article leaving out that key piece of information is just neo-con propaganda.

    It’s the UK that one must ascribe “wanting to start a war” to. Hopefully Trump is smart enough not to get sucked into the British Gambit.

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