Does Barr’s Transparency With Mueller Report Indicate a Positive Shift for IG Horowitz Report?…

On June 14th, 2018, the DOJ Inspector General delivered a 568 page report on the DOJ and FBI handling of the Clinton investigation.

Those who reviewed the full report noted the executive summary was entirely disconnected from the body of material. Additionally, beyond the content disconnection, there was transparent coordination from the institutions of the DOJ and FBI which highlighted an unnerving sense of ongoing corrupt intent.

The IG report on FBI Clinton bias was released to the public Thursday June 14th, at approximately 1:00pm EDT.  Within 13 minutes Trey Gowdy released a public statement on the content.  Within 90 minutes the report was downloaded and shared by most media and investigation followers.  Within two hours the FBI announced a national press conference by FBI Director Chris Wray for 5:30pm EDT.  Four short hours after release.

When FBI Director Chris Wray approached the podium to announce the Inspector General had found “no evidence of political basis influencing the investigation”, but he was going to have everyone in the FBI undergo “bias training”, no-one at the press conference had read the full report.  No-one had time.

The 5:30pm presser looked like a strategic political move to capture the oxygen for the 6:00pm EDT nightly news lead and defend the institutions.

As the hours progressed, and more of the actual content of the report was able to be reviewed, it became obvious the ‘executive summary’ was written specifically to dilute the most damaging information.  Additionally, the full IG report was/is a challenging read.

In hindsight, and with full acceptance of a highly political special counsel investigation happening in the background of the FBI and DOJ, it became more obvious corrupt and sketchy officials within both institutions had a vested interest in the report content. The same “small group” is at the epicenter of both reports.

In short, the 2018 IG report of DOJ/FBI conduct during the Clinton investigation was heavy on narrative engineering; contained the fingerprints of institutional participants focused on justification (ie. ‘small group’); and was devoid of accountability for the bigger issues outlined within it.

The question becomes: will the 2019 IG report on DOJ/FBI handling of the FISA application process suffer the same outcome?

For the upcoming report the diminutive influence of Jeff Sessions is gone; the institutional protective influence of Rod Rosenstein is gone; and the corrupt intents of Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller are gone.  Unfortunately, on the FBI side, Chris Wray, David Bowditch and Dana Boente remain; along with the 40 “rank and file” FBI investigators who participated in the 2016, 2017 and 2018 operations.

Will Attorney General Bill Barr be more willing to allow the IG report to shine a light on DOJ/FBI issues and politically manufactured FISA submissions?

If the intent is to build public confidence in both institutions a third IG report without accountability is not likely to advance the goal.  And, as we see with the Papadopoulos entrapment operation and the recent redactions to the Kavalec report, the corrupt ‘rank and file’ are very clearly still present.

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321 Responses to Does Barr’s Transparency With Mueller Report Indicate a Positive Shift for IG Horowitz Report?…

  1. dwpender says:

    Sundance Can we add Weissmann to your superb pictorial chart? He BELONGS there. Add a horizontal line from Ohr (both under Yates).

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    • bertdilbert says:

      You would expect that Mr. “I first read about it in the newspaper” Obama is going to have to come out shortly and denounce the CIA, FBI and DOJ operation in his administration. The longer the silence continues the guiltier he is going to look. Prepare for fake outrage.

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      • dwpender says:

        Recall the January 5 meeting. Obama told the “career professionals” (Brennan and Comey) that he did not seek to learn the details of what they were doing, but wanted guidance on what his people could and couldn’t share with the incoming Administration. “By the book!” He and Rice made sure they memorialized that it was the “professionals” who handed the tactics, methods and details of the operation,

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        • spoogels says:

          Thats what THEY say. I bet Obama knew EXACTLY all the details
          He is such a control freak
          And ValJar too.

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          • donna kovacevic says:

            America would be much better off believing, Orban, Putin than Obama VaJar. The reason I say this is I have seen Putin in a Monastery, a Church he crosses himself with the three fingers God the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Also has great faith and respect for the bishops of all orthodox faiths. To watch that, it makes your hair on your arms stand up. Now Obama and his evil crew do NOT believe in our Lord Jesus Christ, therefore can do all the evil things they have done, and continue on doing. God Bless PDJT.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        Mainstream Media Protection Unit (the “MMPU”) has their hands full at the moment. Better to let the allegations “come forth”… give The Mechanism time and space to craft their overall protection scheme for The Administration.

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    • chojun says:

      I agree wholeheartedly. I think it’s important to understand that the people investigating Trump in the Special Counsel were the same ones working against his political campaign before he was elected.

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  2. Eric says:

    No FBI or DOJ whistleblowers have come forward on this. Let’s not talk about the “99% of FBI and DOJ employees who are doing their jobs fairly and impartially.”

    Liked by 40 people

    • Carson Napier says:

      Even Diogenes himself, with a Lateran the size of the planet Jupiter would find it very difficult to find a single one.

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    • delighteddeplorable says:

      I agree this is disheartening on its face, but it’s quite possible that whistleblower(s) have come forward, just not that we know about – yet. Time will tell. Cautious optimism, once again.

      Liked by 11 people

      • wlbeattie says:

        Remember that John Solomon reported being personally contacted (several time by IC) whistle blowers.

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      • vikingmom says:

        I have wondered about that – would like to think there are some but it certainly is discouraging that we haven’t heard about any yet! Sadly, I think most of the alphabet agencies simply hire from the Ivy League Universities and the mindset is so ingrained that none of them see anything wrong with what has happened.

        I have heard the suggestion – and heartily approve of it – that the government needs to get OUT of the DC bubble! Half the Cabinets should be disbanded and the rest of them, along with the Intelligence Community and Military, should be broken up and scattered all over the country, including into traditionally red states, with a complete revamp of the hiring process!

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      • Betty says:

        Time will tell. Cautious optimism, once again.

        Been there, done that ! Got sick to death of it, with Sessions and Christopher Wray is no better. Here is how Christopher Wray handles information that We The People paid for and have every right to have access to:

        John Solomon, award winning journalist, has outed the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation hid a confession by Christopher Steele from congressional investigators for nearly three years! … And Director Wray is still working to cover the massive abuse scandal. … the FBI under Director Christopher Wray classified the document as “secret” just a few days ago. To add injury to insult, the FBI added this hopeful note: “Declassify on 12/31/2041.” That would be 25 years after the 2016 election.

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        • GenEarly says:

          Seems like the FIB, is still corrupt but it goes a long ways back to Waco, Ruby Ridge, and more recently the Boston Bombing. I suppose I woke up in the USSA , been in denial, or just apathy with the DC Swampsters running things. Until Trump voting was an illusion between comrade D or comrade R. May John McCain burn in perputity on an aircraft carrier in hell.

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    • Jederman says:

      They all fell in line and did what they were told or looked the other way, or were ideologically simpatico, who knows. Gotta protect that pension. Gotta get positioned for the next promotion… the usual, only worse. This is a big deal. This never happened in the history of this country. It is the worst political scandal (IMO) in our history.

      Fine. I’m just curious what that oath they took before coming on board says. I see no reason, at this point to consider them serving in the best interest of the American citizen.

      It’s probably best to fear the power of that organization but there is no longer a reason to respect it. We respect the military because they demonstrate their loyalty and commitment to the country. It’s just not the case anymore with fed LE and IC.

      Wray, what is the point? Half the country knows you guys are corrupt. What more are you trying to hide? It will not be forgotten.

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      • RJ says:

        The FBI Wary is the kind of lawyer who talks tough all day yet waits til he walks up the steps to the court house nudging the other lawyer to make a sweetheart deal…the last thing he wants is to be exposed as the half wit he truly is and has been all his life!

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      • wendy forward says:

        They have to have a law degree to get hired-we have the information we need. The FBI combines the Stasi and Michael Avenatti in one foul entity.

        Raze it and sow the ground with salt.

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      • livefreeordieguy says:

        Wray is dirty or stupid or both… Why in the world would he be covering for these criminals NOW (as evidenced by the Kavalec memo redactions/classification) with new Sheriff Barr in town? He is protecting his own dirty self, or he is such an empty-suit, dim-witted, brainwashed hack that he can’t keep himself from reflexing using every means necessary to protect ‘The Shield’… I think he’s both dirty and stupid but mostly dirty.

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        • Ad rem says:

          Found your multiple attemps to post in the bin…. 😦

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          • livefreeordieguy says:

            Yeah… Very frustrating… No idea what’s up… Not even sure what “the bin” is either… Never had this much trouble before… But the last attempt worked… The post wasn’t good enough to warrant all of the effort, but the problem got my Irish up and I was determined. All is well… Thank you.

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          • livefreeordieguy says:

            Frustrating… I don’t even know what ‘the bin’ is… Even this reply has not worked thus far… The original post wasn’t good enough to warrant all of the effort, but it finally worked… Thank you.

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      • TPW says:

        I hope that the citizens who are in the know……and we are about to see if FOX really reveals the truth to their audience……will not stand by and watch these traitors slink away. What an injustice to future generations if we do nothing.

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    • amjean says:

      No whistleblowers have sat in the chair across from a tv pundit and spilled their guts.
      Other than that, we public know nothing that has or has not happened behind the scenes.

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    • farrier105 says:

      If you have not encountered a case in which someone poisoned some underlying fact or piece of evidence, or done something else to taint it, you haven’t done anything in there that was worth while.

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    • oldumb says:

      Who would whistle blow? It was a small group and very compartmentalized. You aren’t thinking it through, just casting blame on everyone. Not helpful and quite ridiculous. There are tens of thousands you are blaming. Try again.

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      • Raven78 says:

        So if they (the 99%) were to have leaked intelligence to anyone outside of the agency, their lives and careers would have end almost immediately. So give them a chance before you throw all of them under the bus, it is coming out, I know, it seems like the truth always takes months to years to come out, while the fake crapola hits the media an hour after it is spewed. But it is and will come out.

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        • oldumb says:

          You missed my point, or I stated it poorly. I don’t think there were people that could whistle blow. They were kept in the dark, except for the small group. So we agree.

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        • Pa Hermit says:

          An old adage that has a lot of truth to it: “What doesn’t come out in the wash, will come out in the rinse!”

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    • Raven78 says:

      Let me say this in complete honesty and in defense of these other employees. There are procedures, rules and regulations on how and whom they are to report any internal criminality. And if they are truly being good (in the 99% group), then we would certainly hope that they followed the rules, regulations to still remain lawful. But when they are speaking to the IG all bets are off, they can and are required to speak freely and fully. So I know exactly what you are thinking, why does the other side leak like the Iraq navy, while the good ones don’t. Well, it is called the LAW. But the upcoming IG report and the multiple criminal investigations that are currently ongoing, all of these who actually had knowledge of these criminal acts are and will speak the truth.

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    • emet says:

      Well, one thing that might help is a substantive whistleblower protection law. What we have now is zero protection for whistelblowers, and minimal protection for those who can prove (at their own legal expense). that they were retaliated against. Very few prevail in front of the MSRP or in court. So, why does NOBODY have their backs? The Federal Govt/Deep State is adept at tamping down whistleblowing.

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    • CM-TX says:

      That is most telling.
      It’s also common sense if the ones at the very top are so brazenly corrupt & unethical, there’s going to be a trickle-down effect.

      So when those at the top choose the caliber of people in management positions below them, & they in turn hire rank & file beneath them– it’s inevitable what you’re going to get. Sure some good guys might squeak thru, but it won’t be the norm.

      We also know Mueller’s “5 then 7-year plan” that forced anyone in a supervisory role, to serve time in the DC Den of Degeneracy (HQ). This ensured a means to weed out honorable ones in positions of authority. It was also a way to limit those having seniority.

      For years there’s been countless News stories highlighting the incompetency, abuse, or outright failures by agents. Just as there are endless cases of (real) judges citing similar issues with those at the DOJ.

      If the contrary were true, given they are far greater in numbers– we wouldn’t be where we are today.

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    • sickconservative says:

      Just to be fair are they even in the know outside DC.

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    • RLTW says:

      I’m an FBI whistleblower. I reported something through official channels in official classified reports ten years ago. Mueller and Holder immediately attempted to prosecute me and my wife and put us in prison to cover the whole thing up.

      Their fraudulent criminal case was dismissed within two months. They subsequently opened a second fraudulent criminal case which was dismissed with prejudice. The Judge ordered the FBI to reinstate me with full back pay.

      The FBI OGC lawyers boasted to the Judge that they would simply revoke my security clearance if the Judge were to rule in my favor. When the Judge ruled in my favor that’s exactly what the FBI OGC did.

      The FBI and DOJ have been coming after my family for the last ten years. I have lost everything and have racked up over one million dollars in legal fees. I am also a combat veteran of Desert Storm, OEF and OIF. This is how my Country repays me.

      That’s what happens to FBI whistleblowers. My FBI colleagues look at what happened to me and my family. Why would they step forward?

      You people don’t understand the power and the evil that is at play here.

      Liked by 29 people

      • Rhoda R says:

        You sound like someone the President should nominate to replace Wray. And I am serious. The best way to eliminate corruption in an organization is to have someone in charge who was a victim of that organization.

        Liked by 5 people

      • meow4me2 says:

        RLTW, thank you for doing the right thing, even when it cost you so very much. Your perspective is greatly needed here. May the Lord bless and keep you.

        Liked by 7 people

      • LKAinLA says:

        RLTW I could cry reading your post. Thank you for your service. I hope you will write President Trump and some of his people can make this right. I know a former FBI agent out of ATL who was made to retire early because he started warning the public about the CDC update meetings he was required to attend. Really ugly things have been brought into the US by illegals and our government is hiding it. He posted some info on FB.and had agents show up and search his home, take his computers and gave warnings. All under Obama. He eventually had to retire and stay quiet or lose his pension. He told/gave me a warning and told me nothing big in this country happens without the FBI knowing beforehand.

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      • Conservativeinny says:

        Thank you. I had thought it would be bad but this is beyond what I had imagined.

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      • spoogels says:

        Text this to @realDonaldTrump

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      • livefreeordieguy says:

        The disgusting behavior of the FBI is well-known in greater Boston — Mueller specifically — so I believe every word, RLTW… This should not happen in America… Take note, AG Barr… As Bill Belichick says: “Just Do Your Job” and you will be the most consequential Attorney General in the history of our country….

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    • Robster says:

      Posted this the other day after watching an interview with Devon Nunes.

      Something interesting to glean from Devon Nunes’ interview.

      From the 55 second mark. Nunes discusses the hiring of Durham and the putting together of a team to look at the work of the IG, the House Republicans, the Senate and any other information out there ‘including whistle-blowers an others’.

      After applying the Dan Bongino ‘Nunes Translator’ I get the distinct feeling that multiple whistle-blowers have come forward.

      As SD often says, find this Pientka fella and see what he has to say. Maybe, just maybe they already have.

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    • 3rdday61 says:

      Reminds me of the account of the Lord sending sending His angels to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because their sins were so grievous.
      Abraham pleaded with Him asking if He was going to destroy the righteous along with the wicked.
      Abraham bargained saying “How about if you find 50 righteous out of the whole bunch, will you not destroy them all ?”
      The Lord said ‘If I find 50, ok. I won’t destroy them all.’ .
      Abraham continued, ’45?’ Lord said ‘ok’. 40?…30?…20?…10?…
      and the Lord said ‘Alright, if I can find JUST 10 righteous out of the whole bunch, I won’t destroy them all’. Gen.18:20-32

      He couldn’t even find 10 righteous so He, God, utterly destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      Sorry have to add as Hannity says 99.9%. I get nauseated when he spews that govna.

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    • Peppurr says:

      Agree! Hannity needs to get this message!

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  3. Carson Napier says:

    “Those who reviewed the full report noted the executive summary was entirely disconnected from the body of material. “

    Like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde. Rather like Comey with his scathing list of what Hillary Clinton had done, but then declaring her innocent of everything.

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  4. Carson Napier says:

    “For the upcoming report the diminutive influence of Jeff Sessions is gone”

    When jeff sessions left, he walked under the closed door.

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  5. AnotherView says:

    Somebody please tell Hannity that the FBI does not have 99.9% “good” people working for them.

    Liked by 14 people

    • deepdivemaga says:

      Tell the President that then, because they share that same sentiment.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Carson Napier says:

      Hannity has been drinking way too much Love Potion Number Nine.

      Liked by 5 people

    • archie says:

      Hannity is a puppet playing the part of a parrot.

      Liked by 2 people

    • hoghead says:

      As we are all descended from Adam and Eve, we are a race fallen in sin. There is not a group, company, nation, society or even a single individual that is “99.9% good”.

      And looking at this insane world we live in, it’s painfully obvious that the good is way less than 99.9. [Hannity should know this.]

      Nuff said.

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    • oldumb says:

      Do your math, not even .01% of the FBI was involved in this. Geez people, so vindictive with so little thought.

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      • sundance says:

        The current distinction applies to the Washington Field Office (WFO) mostly.

        However, when reviewing historic FBI failures on terrorism and shootings (Boston Marathon, San Bernardino, Garland TX, Parkland FL, Mandalay Bay LV, Pulse Nightclub FL etc.), it does seem like there’s a strong institutional issue that extends far beyond Washington DC.

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        • oldumb says:

          Ok, I agree the WFO is all corrupt or they wouldn’t be there, I also agree that institutionally the FBI tends to hire the corruptible as a matter of practice.

          Maybe I am naïve but I think there are a lot of good people also working for the FBI, that did not have the information to whistle blow. Maybe they had suspicion that things were being done, but they didn’t have documents and facts to whistle blow.

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          • Shadrach says:

            All these things are true. Wray is a coiffed ass. There are good people at the FBI. Most were left out of this information, and there are also a boat-load of sub-par “resisters” at the FBI.

            Everybody keeps saying “premiere law enforcement agency” but they have a history of corruption. If it were private industry, they’d all be fired. But they aren’t, and we need a Federal Law Enforcement agency. Even if you fired them all, you would have to replace them, and sadly today’s new college graduates are….hmm, what’s the word….nuts. Hire from prior military? Stop hiring from Georgetown University, and hire from mid-Western states where people haven’t lost their minds?

            Not easy. I don’t know what I’d do, and I hope PDJT has some good ideas.

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            • Rhoda R says:

              PDJT probably DOES have some very good ideas – and if past history is anything to go by, his solution is something that none of use would have thought of.

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            • oldumb says:

              Right, I don’t see the FBI being replaced, but “reformed”. In other words they would lay low for a little while until the coast was clear, I agree that the people “acceptable” to them will be heathens just like them. I don’t see a realistic answer.

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          • railer says:

            “…institutionally the FBI tends to hire the corruptible as a matter of practice.”

            .

            Correct, and since your statement is true, and severe damage is being done to this country as a result, it means that we citizens must assume they are all guilty until proven innocent. We don’t have to act rashly on that assumption, other than with our votes, but it’s a good waypoint on our way to cleaning up this mess. There must be citizen action of some sort, however, and that starts with realization that the institution is a disaster, and those working for it are all part of that disaster, and suspect. I don’t recommend a seated politician makes that part of his narrative, but his actions must support the realization that we citizens know to be true. They are ALL suspect, because they work there.

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            excerpts from 80’s FBI training film

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        • Mark McQueen says:

          It’s essential to draw distinctions. Too many people aren’t.

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        • Deplorable_Infidel says:

          “it does seem like there’s a strong institutional issue that extends far beyond Washington DC.”

          Chris Farrell of Judicial Watch has specifically mentioned that he has had first hand experience with the El Paso, TX FBI office where there is rampant corruption (0:01:50 – 0:01:55)

          Judicial Watch Director of Investigations Chris Farrell on the problems with the FBI and why the FBI needs to be shut down.

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  6. Eric says:

    These people’s pictures need to be on a deck of playing cards, like enemy combatants during the Iraq war.

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    • grumpyqs says:

      Those were produced by Newsmax and were quite funny. One of my decks is named “The United Nations of Weasels”. Today’s current events would yield another funny deck.

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  7. zephyrbreeze says:

    Instead of protecting the institutions, we are interested in rehab – ing the institutions, and therefore total candor is required. Anything else is like leaving cancer cells in the body. Barr has his own guy investigating, and I would think that at the end of his career, Barr wants to do the right thing, and is unafraid. I sense Barr is a courageous man, and that is what is required for character and virtue to prevail.

    “Two qualities are indispensable: first, an intellect that, even in the darkest hour, retains some glimmerings of the inner light which leads to truth; and second, the courage to follow this faint light wherever it may lead.” – General Carl von Clausewitz

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  8. Respectfully, I think you left out the context of Declassification…

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  9. Carson Napier says:

    The FBI is like dirt that only corruption can grow in.

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  10. waltherppk says:

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  11. The Boss says:

    “Will Attorney General Bill Barr be more willing to allow the IG report to shine a light on DOJ/FBI issues and politically manufactured FISA submissions?

    My take at this point is “Yes.”

    There is a lot of information damaging to the FBI coming out. The Kavalec email and notes and the unneeded FBI redactions and classification. Try Gowdy’s little tidbit on Maria B’s show today. Etc.

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    • Jederman says:

      The IG will have a hard time writing anything that conflicts with the documents that PT (hopefully) will e releasing.

      Should he make that mistake, the entire report loses credibility. As do the previous reports.

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    • chooseamerica says:

      We also have our president publicly condemning Wray. Would the IG want to let the FBI off the hook only to expose himself as also corrupted? Too many people are awake and watching for this to fly again.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Maybe I read things incorrectly but Horowitz’s body language and ability to keep his expression and tone of voice deadpan while giving his remarks about successfully extracting Strzok/Page text messages during congressional testimony seemed to take a bit of effort. Christopher Wray was seated next to him. I got the feeling that IG Horowitz may have had an urge to spike the ball.

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      • Newhere says:

        If anything, Trump calling out Wray right before the IG Report is a pre-emptive assignment of proper blame. Horowitz can’t squeak out a report outside Wray’s ultimate supervision. Barr’s arrival might help, but Horowitz has been toiling for a year + under Wray and RR. The timing of calling out Wray may be the best data point we have that the IG Report will disappoint. Ugh.

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        • Lefty says:

          I tend to agree. That tweet aimed at Wray seemed to indicate that he is still attempting to hide the FBI’s involvement when it comes to getting info out. whether its the IG report, declassification requests, or document requests, etc… Wray is definitely part of the resistance and covering for his swamp brethren. Hopefully Barr will find cause to fire Wray at some point. What a disappointment Wray turned out to be. Whoever suggested his hiring needs to be canned if they haven’t already.

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    • chuckyschmucky says:

      There is a lot of information damaging to the FBI coming out.

      I don’t think Barr would have bluntly pointed a finger at a “failure of leadership” in the intel community if (a) he didn’t have very strong reasons for believing that; and (b) he intended to bury it.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        There really is no reason for Barr to bury anything. He has a successful career behind him and he has shown a level of integrity that seems to be foreign to a bunch of DC bureaucrats.

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        • Vince says:

          “There really is no reason for Barr to bury anything. He has a successful career behind him.”

          And that’s what he really needs to protect. Why have a career long good reputation and then come back to squander it for no good reason?

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  12. sarasotosfan says:

    I don’t see the IG report playing out any differently than past experience indicates. Recall that the FBI handled the agent/official graft internally. My hope is actual prosecutions from existing criminal referrals occur.

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  13. dwpender says:

    Horowitz will find lots of institutional failure in procuring the Page warrants.

    Preview: Let’s look at DOJ-NSD, which is coordinating with the FBI, which is actually doing the (alleged) “counterintelligence” investigation.

    Yates signed the first warrant. She gets her input from Carlin, and he gets his from other DOJ-NSD underlings.

    Yates says — Nobody told me DNC & Clinton campaign paid for the dossier. Nobody told me Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion GPS and worked on the dossier. Nobody told me about Steele’s bias. Nobody told me about Ohr’s meetings with Steele and funneling other Fusion info to the FBI. Carlin and other DOJ-NSD in the loop say the same.

    Ohr says sure I knew all the foregoing, but I knew of no policy requiring me to tell my superiors (Yates or Lynch). I wasn’t in the DOJ-NSD, and wasn’t part of any FISA process. I was just relaying important info to the FBI. AND, I told Weissmann and Ahmad all about it. They were the “career professionals” with the ability to do something if this took a criminal turn.

    Weissmann and Ahmad say yeah, Ohr told us, but we’re not in the DOJ-NSD and weren’t part of the FISA process. Why she we tell Yates or Lynch or Carlin? We thought Ohr did it.

    Horowitz will be “devastating” on the degree of institutional failure here, but will he (dare to) make one suggestion that anyone acted with improper, corrupt intent? We’ll see.

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    • RJ says:

      Sadly, I think you have hit the nail on it’s head!

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    • WSB says:

      This is why the origination as per Barr is paramount. Even if everyone else was just following orders, the clinton/Obama/Brennan origination will suffice to bring the House of Cards down.

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    • It sure seems this scenario contains a whole lot of lying by omission. What does the federal code say about federal employees who fail to tell pertinent, relevant information their superiors need to know? It’s not perjury to NOT tell something under oath…. but as a federal employee, do they have an obligation to NOT withhold relevant information they ought to be divulging? Does anyone know the laws governing this?

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      • I would think, with federal employees in the Intelligence Community, there would have to be rules governing Lies By Omission. Surely there are no loop holes through which a federal IC employee would be allowed to omit giving all the information they have.

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      • Newhere says:

        It’s why bureaucracies create “silos.” There are specific, defined positions that your position reports things to; beyond that might as well be dead space. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Don’t say or know (or recall) anything your position isn’t required to say or know. Plausible deniability. An institution can fail miserably with everyone just “doing their job.”

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    • ann says:

      Doesn’t matter. They signed, they own it.
      Chain of command civilian leaders are volunteers. They seek authority; commensurate with that comes responsibility and accountability,

      An institution exists to perform missions: DoJ DSI FAILED, not once , but for 12 YEARS! It collapsed into a malicious powerholding fortress which co opted our legal & nat sec structures.

      Bureau leaders still refuse to admit a hx of ignoring grave violations of Nat sec WHEN the perps are hi status insiders .
      major crimes: publicly known massive intell breaches,abetting outside ownership of uranium, extortion by “donor to foundation”, peculation, etc,

      national security relies on justice applied up the Chain of Command: prompt, TANGIBLE punishment. .

      For LE & Nat sec Command to house dysfunctional subculture, to tolerate corruption is heinous.
      The leaders enabled a normalisation of antisocial predatory behaviour. They both held power over and exempted an entire cohort of ruling class.

      One cannot build a high performance org with a command clique of cringing wimp ass conformists & slick empty climbers. .

      Executive leaders responsibilities include horizontal coordination and purposeful dialogue both up & down chain.
      This “I duh no” defence doesn’t apply to senior leaders.

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  14. wlbeattie says:

    I remember Sundance mentioned the difference between the Report and the Summary.
    My question is :- who wrote the summary and who singed it off?

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  15. AnotherView says:

    Personally I think the rot set in with Hoover and carried on through. The FBI is out of control and needs cleaning out. There’s no accountability. Wray is a meglomaniac in love with himself–what director frosts his hair and flashes his expensive watch?

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    • RJ says:

      Stop beating up on Hoover..he was the guy who assembled the FBI and created the foundation upon which the reputation was built. You sound like those people who trash Frank Lloyd Wright and Sigmund Freud, pioneers.

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      • Derangement Syndrome says:

        Yes, Hoover “pioneered” Director level sanctioned blackmail, and illegal spying on political adversaries. J. Edgar’s FBI also refused to acknowledge that the mafia existed, mainly because he loved their gambling establishments so much. J. Edgar Hoover was also ashamed that he was from the black community, and kept it secret.

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      • wlbeattie says:

        Didn’t Hoover blackmail people – with the information that is agents gathered?
        Are we all talking about the “same Hoover”?

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      • Exfiltration of Wealth says:

        Herbert I’ll give a pass to, but J.Edgar institutionalized the rot that has been festering until the band aid has been torn off and exposed to the world the toxic malignancy. To continue the cancer analogy, the FBI and the DOJ are in desperate need of chemo, of course that’s after some serious radiation has been applied to the many originating points(SES) that spawned the rampant evil.
        Corruption sucks ….just like cancer.

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  16. Clara says:

    My biggest concern now is that the Deep State seems to be doing exactly what it did the last time to delay the IG reports of DOJ/FBI corruption — selectively leaking new, previously undisclosed information with the presumed intent of simply delaying the publication of the final IG report as long as possible.

    In the past two weeks, for example, we saw new, previously undisclosed evidence of damning communications between the State Dept. and Christopher Steele. We were simultaneously informed that Horowitz had not previously seen these communications, so now he will have investigate these new communications before he can proceed any further with his draft report.

    THIS COULD TAKE MANY, MANY WEEKS!

    So, it seems to me that each time new stuff is leaked, it’s done for the express purpose of SLOWING HOROWITZ down. If the Deep State can run out the clock and delay any prosecutions until November 2020, they may be able to get Trump and Barr out of there. Of course the moment a new attorney general steps in, all of this will be buried forever. That seems to be their goal.

    For this reason, my advice to Horowitz — or anyone who has his ear — would be to just go with whatever you have right now. YOU MAY NEVER BE ABLE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ALL OF THIS. But you can always publish second, third and fourth volumes as new information continues to come to light.

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    • dwpender says:

      Bravo.

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    • Maquis says:

      Excellent observation, and shrewd analysis.

      Liked by 6 people

    • WSB says:

      And our President has a timeline in his head for declassification.

      I am sure he trusts no one at this point.

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      • sickconservative says:

        Agree and could you imagine Obama or any D president having to deal with R’s as useless as they are but 90 percent of the MSM on the other side.
        Barr has been a shot in the arm that was really needed and hope he follows through.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I think there are three (maybe more) reasons for the leaks:

      1) it’s a good person leaking info for the public to digest but a person who is too afraid to be an official whistleblower
      2) it’s a bad person leaking info to delay Horowitz, as you suggest
      3) it’s a bad person leaking info to throw another bad person under the bus as a CYA move.

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    • Clara- you ROCK. Great comment.

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    • Sherri Young says:

      Didn’t we hear that the IG’s report is already in the review process?

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    • CHenie says:

      Well-, yeah-DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I have scrolled through at least 500 comments after the Kavalec’s notes were “made public” and I didn’t see one that thought this was a DS delay tactic. There will be more “new evidence/revelations” to follow. It’s to run-out-the clock and then soft-land the “spygate” plane.

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      • Newhere says:

        Not to mention it’s extremely worrying if THIS is the piece of evidence proving the first FISA was illegal ….. that alone set my hair on fire.

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    • Newhere says:

      THANK YOU!!

      After the last IG Report, my expectations are beyond low. But, the IG report seems like the big log jam. Everyone always says or insinuates that everything else waits on this damn report. Just drop it already.

      One other thought though: if the report actually does expose obvious criminal conduct, reinforced by declassified documents (let’s hope), how long of a lag can there realistically or reasonably be before some of the bad actors are charged and hauled in? I mean these are *serious* offenses — and what message does it send to the America public for a multi-year Justice report to expose lying and abuse of power at the highest level of law enforcement …. and then nothing. We have the pleasure of listening to Comey, Clapper and Brennan pontificate about it on cable news that night. Weeks … months … nothing. I mean is someone just going to one day in the distant future show up at Brennan’s make-up room at MSNBC and say, “it’s time sir, you’re under arrest”?

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    • Justin Green says:

      The IG report could in fact simply conclude that there is evidence of wrongdoing and that there is further evidence of a continuation of obstruction by the Departments.

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  17. E. L. Tolbert says:

    Excellent explanation of why we all feel “an unnerving sense of ongoing corrupt intent”.

    A phrase which unfortunately describes how any American who is 1) Paying Attention and 2) Not a Blind Partisan has felt about his Government for over two years now.

    Thus summary also shows why Chris Wray needs to be fired this week not next month.

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    • Jederman says:

      Not to put too fine a point on it but the feeling has been growing exponentially since obama was elected.

      His shady background, buried personal records, empty portfolio (of experience), voting present, chicago style sandbagging his IL senate and U.S senate opponents to get elected… IRS abuse, OSHA, EPA… . The overwhelming sense that he was an empty suit who memorizes a few lines to play the part but is just a puppet doing the dirty deed and enjoying the perks, to the max.

      Now, a fully weaponized fed LE and IC supporting the party in power and suppressing it’s political opposition. My sense is this has been snowballing for 8-10 years. Barr and PT are for the most part the only thing standing in the way.

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      • AmericaFirst says:

        Yes, well stated. Though we are not expecting, to my knowledge, an IG Report on that hapless person whose strongest motivations seemed to be vengeance and bitterness, and whose regime left us as a country divided and chaotic. A somewhat truthful Report on the illegal workings of his agencies and those employing seditious efforts Under Color of Law may be the best we can hope for.

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  18. California Joe says:

    IG Horowitz, an Obama appointee, prefaced his earlier investigation of the Hilary Clinton email debacle by refusing to second guess any DOJ and FBI prosecutorial decision. So, when the computer guy who worked on the Hillary Clinton server lied to the FBI and DOJ refused to indict him (which was leverage) the excuse given by Lynch’s DOJ was “it didn’t serve the interest of justice!” Of course, it was in reality Lynch didn’t want justice! Our hero, IG Horowitz refused to second guess that decision because he didn’t want to expose the cover up. President Trump needs to fire Horowitz just for that decision alone and replace him with a patriot!

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    • WSB says:

      “What to do…what to do?”

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    • Sherri Young says:

      Then again, Sally Yates had sufficient fear of IG Horowitz and his group that she absolutely refused to all the National Security Division to be subject to IG oversight.

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    • Newhere says:

      Horowitz didn’t “refuse to second guess” — that is the inherent, statutory limit of his authority. He couldn’t second guess. Yes, much of the logic in his conclusions insulted our intelligence. But no IG report is meant to deliver justice in the public interest. That’s what Huber supposedly was for, and now Durham. IG Reports are aimed at internal reform and discipline. They’re bureaucratic creations, meaning the scope is deliberately stilted. IMO we’ve been oversold on the IG Reports, by all the lame politicos saying “wait for the IG Report ….” and “as soon as the IG Report ……”

      We’ve been played, but it’s not principally Horowitz’s fault — or his fault at all.

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  19. You don’t spy on a POTUS, go after his kids, try to blackmail him, try to engineer his removal, fail across the board and get to walk away without consequences. Give Trump some credit. If it were any one of us we’d be out for blood. So I assume, he is too. If he allows a cover up then he’ll deserve whatever he gets going forward. We are in the final turn of the race. We’ll know soon enough.

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    • RJ says:

      You present a sharp perspective toward Trump. I agree. We’ll know for sure how hard Trump intends to play when he begins firing more of his people relative to this coup by Obama/Hillary.

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    • Mark L. says:

      Agreed, POTUS knows this is for all the marbles. We are forced to watch this from the cheap seats.

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  20. Perot Conservative says:

    Great review. Additions.

    There is a Third Layer beyond the “small group” of executives (7th Floor), and the 40 investigators; the 50-100 FBI employees who Leaked and / or took media bribes.

    This corrupt group is currently also under an IG investigation reportedly wrapping up after a length, complicated investigation.

    Can the IC be cleaned up if they are left in place?

    Say Comey, McCabe, Brennan face consequences … Strzok and Baker… but this whole supporting cast of Leakers and corroborators walks free.

    It’s like taking out Sadaam, but the Iranian Guard is still there, and the corrupt culture. Will anything really change?

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  21. RJ says:

    Sundance may be covering his ass…however, I sense he feels the same way I do–major players are doing their best to hide the truths most of us “feel” relative to Hillary’s escape, Obama’s instructions to Brennan, and all those other players who were part of the team to take down Trump, etc. No heads have rolled onto the stage of this drama, this coup, this evil intent to rob the majority of American citizens the power and their right within the secret ballot of voting.

    If heads don’t roll, then the game will most certainly turn bloody, in the streets and sooner, rather than later. Just like the idiots who General Soelimani (sp?) of Iran has tasked with harassing Americans and Jews throughout the Middle East may take one step too far, the acolytes within the democrats may make one move too far for the majority of Americans
    .
    Keep in mind Obama’s favorite movie is The Godfather. Realize how dirty Obama played his politics in his home state when running for the Senate. Don’t forget how Obama had people in journalism spied upon, etc. Hillary…hundreds of FBI files came her way, Bill”s bimbos felt her wrath, and Benghazi showed every living combat veteran just how rotten her soul truly is and most likely has been.

    These players are evil, plain and simple. What we seek is their exposure and justice for what we can prove they did! Sundance is on our team, and this article is his warning to be very, very careful in what one hopes for…dreams of, and knows should happen.

    Protect those on our side, keep an eye on those who are not, a very sharp eye indeed!

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    • Jederman says:

      PT certainly has to know that that there is no contrition, no shame, no will to admit wrong doing etc etc on the perp side. Unless they (all of them) face justice the will be defiant.

      They will not retire to a quiet life, keep they fat mouths shut and thanks the Lord they escaped punishment. They will be giving PT and his base the finger 24/7 and throwing down the taunts on every msm outlet.

      The only solution. The correct solution is to follow the law, without exception or deviation, and let the cards fall where they may. We all know if there is no punishment in this the worst political scandal in our history they will do it again. The resistance will be emboldened. It will be difficult but it has to be done.

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      • dwpender says:

        Remember what they think of PT and his base: As per FBI Lawyer #5 on a taxpayer-provided device while at work in a government building shortly after November 8, 2016: (close to verbatim) “Trump voters are ALL (emphasis mine) uneducated, lower to middle class, lazy POS who believe that Trump will somehow magically give them a job for doing nothing.” Sent to FBI Lawyer #2, who of course agreed.

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  22. archie says:

    Within the next months if the entirety of the elected GOP in both the federal and state government don’t rise up against the deep state and FBI you will know the future of the country. We all know the answer.
    Stop voting R and hoping for a different outcome.

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    • Cow wow says:

      At Archie-so if we do as you say and stop voting Rep, then what pray tell is your answer?
      You are not a serious commenter here at the Treehouse, me thinks

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  23. ben dover says:

    I believe that it was Rep. Jim Jordan who drafted a letter demanding a copy of the IG’s earlier report BEFORE Rosenstein, et al touched it.

    I am hoping that such draft will be among the forthcoming declassed docs by EO.

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  24. I’m maintaining my optimism in that the cover-up of the Hillary cover-up afforded the culprits a lot of wiggle room in the form of “prosecutorial discretion”, whereas there are many SOP bright lines which were obviously crossed when it comes to the FISA process and I don’t think anyone will be able to paper over them given the information already out there in the public domain.

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  25. mtk says:

    I now understand the context of the

    However, I never been able to read the statements Trey released, since when following the link it leads to a 404 page not found.

    Anyone got a copy of the actual press release statement(s) Trey made.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I found it. I’m just starting to read it, it starts out good. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/ig-report-clinton-comey-findings-troubling-gowdy/

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      • mtk says:

        Thanks covfefe.

        To the best I’ve been able to figure out about Gowdy. Is that the level of disconnect between his assertions(which are lambastic in nature and legally and logically sound) and the resultant follow through(no actionable outcomes) have led many to believe he(Gowdy) talks a good game for a calculating reason.

        Meaning he is a cheerleader, talking the ‘peaching to the choir’ rhetoric because, it would be odd if no one did it. Additionally, as we(treepers) have come understand this is in turn used to translate into direct campaign contribution appeals that get funneled to RINOs, GOPe and Uni-party loyalists.

        This is his sin, and why he suspect, imho

        As romy911, down thread wrote…

        I still don’t understand the significance.

        The significance may be he is pushing the expolatory angle, hyping it to the point that when it is declassified, he knows it will not rise to expections.
        Not meeting expectations translates to paying forward RINO loyalties.

        Roosterhead is not an endearing term, but God I wish he was known as the ‘little dutchboy’ instead.

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    • romy911 says:

      Sundance posted that tweet from June 4, 2018, TWICE in the Gowdy thread. I still don’t understand the significance.
      Is it this?
      “The report also conclusively shows an alarming and destructive level of animus displayed by top officials at the FBI. Peter Strzok’s manifest bias trending toward animus casts a pall on this investigation. Bias is so pernicious and malignant as to both taint the process, the result, and the ability to have confidence in either.”

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  26. WES says:

    The simply fact that information is coming out in a controlled manner tells me we are still on the same path we have been for the last 2-1/2 years.

    Until people start getting charged we are still on the same old path.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Bit isn’t there an old axiom about getting your ducks in a row first?

      Especially legally, and at this level.

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  27. Eric says:

    So who fights for more camera time? Graham or Gowdy?

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    • oldumb says:

      Gowdy is a paid contributor. Fox schedules his appearances. Don’t be jealous.

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      • faridrushdi says:

        Always wondered how much “paid contributors” make at Fox. Couldn’t find the answer until a former contributor said he wouldn’t miss the $300 per appearance fee. I thought it would be a lot more than that, but if you’re on five times a week, that’s $6,000/mo for part time work. That’s pretty good!

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    • mtk says:

      Well seeing Gowdy is now paid for his camera time, and is contractually under no obligations to fight for the camera time. I would say, “It is an apple and oranges argument, at this point.”

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  28. Bob, Esq. says:

    Dollars to donuts, these “corrupt and sketchy officials within both institutions” will not permit the IG’s report to mention the procedure violations in Footnote 8 of the Carter Page FISA application.

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  29. Angel Martin says:

    If the Woods procedures for FISAs were not properly followed, or were “verified” by media reports and statements by Sidney Blumenthal, then someone in the DOJ is going to have to take the fall for that.

    Institutionally, that person is likely the head of the DOJ National Security Branch, which for the Carter Page FISAs was Mary McCord and Dana Boente.

    My guess is Boente is going to be the big casualty of all this.

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  30. Bogeyfree says:

    I just don’t see AG Barr with his solid reputation, coming out of retirement, just to sweep it all under the rug.

    Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have been recommended and picked to do that so I just don’t see him watering down this IG report and thus allowing Wray to say we need more training programs.

    There are just to many obvious issues for Barr to ignore and sweep. We have procedural violations, lies, leaks, bias, corruption, cover up, fraud, frame job and a coup to take down a sitting President.

    How does someone with his reputation, come back and jeopardize everything just be a sweeper?

    A sweeper would not have pushed back like he did during his recent congressional testimony.

    A sweeper would not have gone up to Pelosi and said do you have the handcuffs.

    A sweeper does not need to ask a DA to look at spying BEFORE July 2016.

    I actually think AG Barr is going for the home run and possible crimes of spying on Americans BEFORE this whole PT coup and coverup.

    Time will tell.

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  31. John says:

    I hope I’m wrong, but I believe Horowitz is part of the left wing Deep State. He won’t do anything that holds the Deep State accountable. In the forthcoming IG Report, Horowitz will probably follow the same playbook that he used successfully in the June 2018 IG Report. There, Horowitz found that each step of the DOJ/FBI’s Clinton Email investigation could be seen as reasonable (or could be seen as occurring for reasons other than protecting HRC).
    I anticipate that Horowitz’s forthcoming report on FISA will find significant irregularities, but Horowitz will not “conclude” that the irregularities were motivated out of animus towards Trump. Rather, mistakes were made due to poor management, etc. I also predict that Horowitz will find that the DOJ/FBI acted in good faith (to protect the USA) when they sought to investigate Trump-Russia collusion.

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    • Beau Gest4 says:

      Remember, horowitz is an obama appoinment, at a time when obama was getting rid of honest IGs

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    • Sherri Young says:

      In the video interview with Tony Shaffer that has been posted everywhere in the last week, he says that the IG report will be about deviations from rules and regs, not about intent. He deals with overt behavior. The IG functions in a narrow lane. IIRC, the IG cannot prosecute but can make criminal referrals.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      You have NO reason to believe Horowitz is part of the deep state. Sheesh. That’s just absurd. Horowitz is the one who dug up all of those Strzok-Page texts and he referred Andy McCabe for criminal prosecution (too bad Jessie Liu never did anything with it). Just wait and see.

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  32. Lynch’s unbridled prosecutorial discretion was a salient, controlling feature, and bottom line in the first report.
    Hopefully, Horowitz will not find some other diverting factor this time, and will find causation and direct illegality by the miscreants. The two reports may be distinguishable this way, along with the supervision of the Honey Badger this time. Also,the president needs to take the key players on a plane ride like Rosey..

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  33. Translation: The Clinton IG report is a piece of garbage. Remember how it was supposed to come out around Thanksgiving, 2017? It finally came out 6 months later. Rosenslime and Strzok needed that time to sanitize it and write that whitewash executive summary. And what happened to all the criminal referrals that were supposed to come out of it? NOTHING. What happened to the Huber enforcement that was supposed to come out of it? NOTHING.

    Horowitz has NO enforcement power. He can’t empanel a grand jury. He can’t touch Jarrett, Moochelle, Rice, Rhodes, Power, or anybody else in the Crapweasel White House; Crapper, Brennan or anyone else in the vaunted “17 Intelligence Agencies”; Kerry, Nuland, Psaki, Baaaarf or anyone else in the State Department; Hillary, Huma, Mills, Samuelson, Sullivan, Pagliano, Kendall, Sid Blumenthal or any other Clinton Gerbils; or Lynch, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Gums Page, Priestap and everyone who has already been fired from FBI/DOJ.

    The most you can possibly get from an IG is “Blah blah, this guy failed to follow department norms, this guy proceeded under a little-used protocol blah blah blah.” And now for the flaming FISA abuse, the most you’ll get is a referral to the bar association for a possible violation of the cannon of ethics.

    And note the current timing… we’re expecting the new IG report shortly. And who finally went out the door just last week? Rosenslime and Strzok have sanitized this report too (YES, Strzok).

    People pin WAY too much hope on what is actually a sick, cynical joke.

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/12/22/john_huber_vanishing_savior_for_gop.html

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    • litlbit2 says:

      Agree would add a large part of the gang of 8, CoC, GOPe, DNC, FISA Judges, DOJ, FBI, CIA, Soros etc. They all one big happy criminal division with their boot on the legal electorate.

      Question with all the investigators, Judges, Prosecutors, DOJ officials connected to date, was Bill Barr someone out of the loop?

      Doing the same things expecting different results……..

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    • Beau Geste says:

      horowitz does not think that people who plan an insurance policy” against a political candidate they do not like, or say “first we fu*k flynn – then we fu*k trump”, or lie to PDJT that he is not a subject of investigation, and pay spies illegally, claim fbi/cia agents like carter pge are foreign adversaries, and lie to the FISA court, have even a smidgen of bias. Horowitz keeps having to whitewash his “report” to “explain” evidence that keeps coming out about FBI/CIA wrongdoing, which he failed to “find” himself despite all his hundreds of employees, congressional referrals, offered-but-ignored whistleblowers, opporuinity to ask Assange, and huber’s subpoena power. His job, as evidence by his prior report, is to protect the swamp.
      Can bulldog Durham and AG Wray terminate and/or prosecute horowitz in he is in on the scam, by protecting the scammers?

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    • covfefe999 says:

      You said it yourself, Horowitz’ powers are limited. But he can refer people for criminal prosecution. We just need to make sure that the people who end up with those referrals actually do something about it. It appears Jessie Liu did nothing with the Andy McCabe referral, that’s not Horowitz’ fault.

      And don’t compare Horowitz to Huber. At least Horowitz is doing something productive and producing his work. Huber is completely MIA.

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  34. Moe Grimm says:

    This is exactly why I don’t trust this mook Horowitz. He took 568 Pages to setail felonies, sedition, treason then pisses in our ear and tells us it’s raining: “Those who reviewed the full report noted the executive summary was entirely disconnected from the body of material.” More I don’t get PDT appointing Wray. How can he have done this and be serious about reforming this corrupt 3 letter? I don’t want to hear another word about “the rank and file.’ Anyone hear one of them stand up? Nor will you.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Follow along. Horowitz didn’t write the Exec Summary or Conclusion. That was Wray / Swamp denizens. Two different things.

      Second, Horowitz may be emboldened by Barr, he should have irrefutable evidence on FISA fraud, and info is now not blocked by Mueller.

      But he is still essentially an Auditor.

      Do we Treepers have a 1,000 view of our new landscape?

      1. The Big Ugly.

      2. The Big Wait / HeadFakes.

      3. Demoralization. Administrative State in charge.

      4. AG Barr – cautious optimism.

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      • Tl Howard says:

        Hard to think Barr came out of a retirement to make “recommendations.” You don’t clean out a corrupt body w/out throwing a lot of powerful punches….indictments.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Horowitz certainly did have some fancy relationship charts for leakers to the press, didn’t he? Hasn’t it been within the last 2-3 weeks that Devin Nunes said that members of congress were about to make criminal referrals, starting with the “obvious leakers?”

        Horowitz also seemed to have stunned Christopher Wray when he (Horowitz) did not accept the FBI’s assurance that no more of the Strzok/Page texts could be retrieved.

        This afternoon, Genie made this comment on the Trey Gowdy thread:
        Bless your heart, Trey. Do also tell us about Strzok’s September 10, 2016 text “there are VERY inflammatory things in the 302s we didn’t turn over to [Congress]…that are going to come out in FOIA and absolutely inflame Congress.”

        Here are the Strzok/Page texts for that day.
        http://thespygateproject.org/?refinementList%5Bweekday%5D%5B0%5D=Saturday&range%5Bunixtimestamp%5D=1473448010%3A1474016969

        Strzok was stressing out a bit in those texts. He was trying to cover bases. He didn’t disclose that the FBI did not properly investigate what was on laptops that had been handed over voluntarily and had content labeled “classified” on them. He makes the suggestion that the FBI did not have consent or probable cause. They also refer to the “shennigans” at the State Dept. He refers to Jim (Baker?) and Trisha (Anderson?) and Dave (?) and Mike (Kortan?) and Jason (?, apparently a person who needs to be prepped to be ready to deal with questions from Congress).

        The cherry on top is @ 08:56 AM. Strzok texts to Page: “I will go review the 302s we didn’t turn over and send thoughts to everyone except the O corridor recipients. You or Trisha or Jason can mention to them.”

        Does “the O corridor recipients” indicate the conduit for sending information to Obama? It would be hard to believe otherwise since this text comes eight days after the text that said, “…bc POTUS wants to know everything we are doing.”
        =====

        All of the Strzok text messages for that day were among the ones that the FBI failed to hand over and later said could not be retrieved. Horowitz’s team found them with the help of the DoD. There were also texts found on a specific enterprise server at the FBI. Here is the IG’s report produced last December. The conclusions have to do with policies and procedures. The investigative summary is not a laughing matter. This is not a coverup or smooth over job by the OIG.

        https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/archive/17553//i-2018-003523.pdf

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    • Redzone says:

      Moe – at least the rain was warm.

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  35. Justin Green says:

    And here’s where a political, if much less than satisfying, result would at least somewhat appease…

    Democrats and their media sucklings could all come out and do a mea culpa and admit that Trump was innocent of both collusion and obstruction, and that the FBI, DOJ, SOS, etc., behaved badly.

    But, since they won’t do that, the only solution is to hit them all with a nuclear hammer.

    People HAVE to go to jail, period.

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    • litlbit2 says:

      That be the little guy, peon material. To date not one mention of the leader(s) of this criminal action. Does anyone one with a brain really think, Obama, Podesta, Hillary, Soros etc will ever answer for scam creations or the taking of taxpayer funds to make themselves richer lacking the mental capacity to do it on their own. It’s becoming a little long in the tooth as the Snowflake crowds have been indoctrinated 24/7 going on three years.

      FYI, Global Warming, Carbon Tax still selling tickets by Al Gore🤓🤓

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  36. I am expecting to get kicked right in the ….
    teeth.
    But will be really happy, not to mention surprised, if I do not.

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  37. appraisher says:

    I remember well the Congressional questioning of Horowitz and his continual pronouncement that there “was NO DOJ/FBI bias”, until Trey Gowdy literally had to beat an admission out of him with example after example of outright, overt bias. And even after Horowitz finally admitted there WAS bias, even in the face of FBI guidelines, nothing was ever done about it…unless you consider Wray’s cover-your-ass presser, saying more training is necessary, even though highly TRAINED AGENTS, with decades of FBI experience, committed the bias.

    Trump is still surrounded by Obama-appointed, upper echelon DOJ/FBI/CIA/NSA operatives and department/agency heads that receive a paycheck from the Trump administration, while continuing Obama’s Shadow Government…so It isn’t hard to explain why a coup was planned and executed. Why Trump didn’t purge all of these traitorous bastards, like every president before him, on day one of his presidency, is what I find hard to explain.

    My hope is that there is still enough of America left, that swift punishment will be Barr’s endgame, but, like Trump, he’s “just one voice, crying out in the wilderness”. If those that were part of this criminal, seditious coup are allowed to skate because of power and influence, America is just another leftist, Banana Republic…so like it or not, America’s future is in Barr’s hands.

    Let’s hope his belief in the law will make him strong enough to make the right decisions.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Why Trump didn’t purge all of these traitorous bastards, like every president before him, on day one of his presidency, is what I find hard to explain.

      Being new to politics let alone new to being the President of the United States, and without his own party’s support, I think Trump took the advice from people he thought he could trust, people who should have known who was good and who wasn’t good. He won’t make that mistake again.

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      • appraisher says:

        I understand your argument that being a government “outsider”, he’d need a FEW “insiders” to act as interlocutors between his business mind and how the government ticks…but Imam Obama was a virtual neophyte who purged W’s people and brought in his trusted coterie of non-government criminals.

        I had assumed that when Trump decided to run, he was already compiling a list, to fit the best BUSINESS minds he knew, to the government departments that needed new blood and leadership…hence, I expected a purge of Obama bag-men.

        Unfortunately, he chose Priebus to trust, as his interlocutor, which is why the back-stabbers were never removed.

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        • covfefe999 says:

          Trump wouldn’t be able to use business people to head the FBI, DOJ, military, etc. He needed experienced allies. Shoot, I think it was Sessions who had him hire Wray to head the FBI, based on a recent tweet. And didn’t Sessions also recommend Rosenstein?

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          • appraisher says:

            Yes, I believe he did covfefe999. You are correct that business people aren’t able to head law enforcement agencies, but there are plenty of experienced, liberty-loving, law enforcement officers in high places OUTSIDE of the government that could be tapped for those jobs.

            Also, the FBI hasn’t had a “cop” head up the agency in decades. They’re all lawyers…how much law enforcement experience do they have?

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        • Sherri Young says:

          A visit to politico.com to look at the election results maps the District of Columbia and the counties surrounding it shows that the people within commuting distance are residents of a blue swamp. That is the DC workforce.

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        • Sherri Young says:

          BTW, here is one of the big problems — Johnny Destefano. He was a high-level Boehner staffer. Since Trump became POTUS, Destefano has been the guy who makes most of the hiring decisions at the White House. From what I heard, he is a swampster and NOT a MAGA guy at all. He is still around because he sucks up and seems to be likeable.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_DeStefano

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          • appraisher says:

            If he has the stench of Obama or Clinton on him, he must be removed like the tumor he is…no matter how much “likeability” he may attempt to project.

            We all, Trump included, need to realize that these leftist “plants” are the enemy, and they need to be treated as such.

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            • Sherri Young says:

              He has the GOPe stench of Boehner on him and he is hiring Never-Trumpers.

              This guy may have been the author of the anonymous op-ed in the NYT.

              1) works in White House — check
              2) has strong ties to the hill — check
              3) working against Trump — check

              We may never know.

              We should have an Instagram sleuth keep an eye and a camera out for encounters between Mitt and Johnnie DeStefano.

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              • appraisher says:

                I abhor these backstabbers and can’t understand how Trump tolerates them in OUR House.

                While we’re on the subject of backstabbers, McConnell really needs to go also. I abhor the Vichy right. If it wasn’t for Trump, we’d never know the depths of hatred the GOPee (McStain, McConnell, Mitt, etc) had/has for the American people….Democrats in GOP clothing. The enemy within.

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  38. Jim in TN says:

    I would like to remind everybody about this quote from Barr back when he said Trump was spied on:

    “And I also want to make clear this is not launching an investigation of the FBI. Frankly, to the extent that there were issues at the FBI, I do not view it as a problem that’s endemic to the FBI. I think there was probably a failure among a group of leaders there, at the upper echelon; and so I don’t like to hear attacks about the FBI, because I think the FBI is an outstanding organization, and I think that Chris Wray is a great partner for me and I’m very pleased that he’s there as the director.”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/04/10/ag-william-barr-yes-i-think-spying-did-occur-on-trump-campaign-video-and-transcript/

    I suggest that this is his outline as to where these investigations will go. Blame a small cadre of leaders. Defend the FBI as a whole. And walk hand in hand with Director Leslie Nielsen (Move along, Nothing to see here, Wray)

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    • I have worried about that quote for some time.

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    • BitterC says:

      Yeah, and conveniently, most of that group of leaders have already been fired or retired

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I think you’re making too much of his comments. He shouldn’t investigate the entire FBI. There was a small group of people at the top of the FBI (plus others in other agencies and positions) who committed the traitorous acts. I’m not saying all of the rest of the people in the FBI are saints but the FBI shouldn’t be Barr’s focus. He should go after all of the traitors for this Spygate mess. Focus on Spygate.

      Also, he should not state or even imply that he has lost faith in the FBI because that would be bad for the country. It’s also pointless for him to criticize Wray at this time. If Wray cooperates with Barr’s investigation and doesn’t try to impede, then we’re good. If he impedes then Barr can take care of him.

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  39. 🍺Gunny66 says:

    At this point…with everything that has occurred, the President should”Not” trust anyone…..Just his own instincts z

    Most of these people are way out there….and these are just the “little guys”….

    All these FBI / DOJ folks are just pawns..

    Many people are all fired up about Barr…

    I’m still on the fence. We have had two years of the same kind of talk from a lot of people……

    I’m waiting for some arrests….

    We will soon see….Will Barr start kicking over tables…..or will he protect the “Institution?”

    Waiting…

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  40. I submit that at this point no one can “spin” the IG’s report to say “it isn’t bad.” The question is, “how bad is it?” We already have incontrovertible proof – digital audit records among other things – which prove that crime … very high crime … HAS occurred.

    In any case, though, this is only a tiny first step with many more to go. It WILL take time.

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  41. Pristach says:

    The OIG reports sets the path for the final denouement of all of this. in the end

    Brennan walks
    Clapper walks
    And the minions who did their biding (Halper, et. all)
    Comey walks
    Strozk indicted
    Baker indicted
    Ohr (Nellie) indicted
    Yates = undecided

    The greatest outcome of all of this is another 4 more years of MAGA and not Biden which is Obama.

    The IC issues a mea culpa via Haspel

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  42. jx says:

    Just as a royal flush is worthless unless it’s played, all these reports are worthless if there are no prosecutions. It’s been a year a month and a day since Comey was referred. What is Barr waiting for?

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Comey? Did you mean Andrew McCabe? Blame Jessie Liu for that one, she appears to have dropped it.

      Devin Nunes referred a bunch of people for criminal prosecution but that was just last month so it will take a while for anything to happen with those referrals.

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  43. Carrie says:

    When Wray is finally forced out, who should replace him? I would like former AG Mike Mukasey I think…

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    • Rhoda R says:

      I presented this idea a bit earlier, but why not someone like RLTW above (not necessarily him) – someone who is familiar with the FIBs as well as being a victim of them. Someone with a real motive to clean up the corruption.

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  44. Rick says:

    The silence from the FISA court to date tells me that there is a big nothing burger in the IG report and any other investigation. How can this Court, who was obviously, blatantly and manically LIED to by the cabal, who then presented a warrant as VERIFIED visibly printed at the top of the document, NOT FEEL violated and BE COMMITTED to expose the injustice of four seperate acts (warrants)

    This one fact tells me that President Trump will be long gone (6 years from now) and these seditionists will still be selling their books, lies and deceits. The depth of the corruption foisted upon us does not allow for a few decent civil servants to ever get to the bottom of the barrel. Obfuscate, obstruct, delay, and lie while the media carries the water.

    WASH, RINSE AND REPEAT!!! It’s how we reached where we are today. Any fool can see the real story, yet the miscreants continue to sell 10 lbs of $#it in their 5 lb. bags. Perhaps just one day we live to see that the bags break on them, as the Feds cuff their asses and transport them off to Comey Island. (the newly established home for seditionist)

    Like Eastwood said, “President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people,” We all know it Clint, you just said it!

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    • Beau Geste says:

      The FISA Court accepting being misled, without taking any examination or punitive action, is conclusive evidence that this is an ethically-challenged court. They know 85% of secret Spying is illegal. They know they are entrusted with protection of 4th Amendment Constitutional rights, because the spied-on defendants are not present to defend themselves from crooked government political overreach. THey know they were lied to in the Carter Page warrant motion with false evidence that page was a foreign agent when he was an FBI/CIA spy. They know the pee pee dossier was unverified.
      Yet they did nothing, and APPROVED SECRET SPYING ON A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE without due diligence. They are a Star Chamber secret political court of the type the Founders tried to prevent.
      The sleasy behavior of the FISC Star Chamber is perhaps the most dangerous problem of Constitutional corruption revealed by PDJT so far. If the FISC court was honest, there would be no Page warrants, and those who presented the falsified motion would be disbarred, fined, and/or imprisoned. The 85% illegal 4th Amendment violations would be punished, those government officials responsible would be prosecuted, and the “contractors” would be prosecuted and barred from any further government contracts of any kind. But this FISC court does not go “by the book”.
      An honest FISC court was the check-and-balance designed to stop this corruption. It completely failed. It is still failing in its responsibilities.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        How can the FISC act against a crooked DOJ/FBI?

        Who would prosecute? The judge? The crooked DOJ prosecute itself?

        Who would the witnesses be? Again the judge? The lying FBI testify against itself?

        Who would be empaneled as jurors? We are talking super top secret Court Documents that until this fiasco never saw the light of day.

        Who would the defense lawyers be?

        Now imagine that you are accused by this court. You have been whisked away and tried in a secret court. Convicted and shut away in a secret jail. And no one can ever tell the truth about it lest the same thing would happen again.

        No appeals. It is top secret.
        No habeas corpus. No one will ever know who to serve.
        Were your other rights upheld? Doubt it. And you can never tell.

        Indeed, they may hold you indefinitely, just to stop you from ever talking. Or just kill you.

        After all, you have simply disappeared without a trace. You are seen as a dirty scoundrel abandoning your wife and kids, never to be seen again. And no one will ever know different.

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        • Jim in TN says:

          I wrote the above to try to get people to see what problems come with insisting the FISC punish the people who deceived it. It would be a bad, bad mess.

          But that leaves the FISC as a powerless rubber stamp. With no recourse other than to accept the lies as truth.

          Just look at the Collyer report. Lied to for years, and no recourse. Abused American’s rights for years, and there is nothing that judge can do about it. They didn’t even tell her when they discovered the problem. Kept it secret from the FISC until they could claim it was fixed.

          The FISC is a bad concept. Just a pretense of protecting our rights from Big Brother Government. And cover for abusing us.

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        • Beau Geste says:

          Jim, The federal courts have inherent powers to punish, fine, disbar, and even jail those who perpetrate fraud on the court. THeFISC Court can require hearings and compel testimony from those who have perpetrated fraud and persented lies as truth. The liaars and fraudsters can be jailed by the FISC Court for refusal to testify. Fraud was certainly perpetrated on the FISC Court. Phony claim that carter page (an FBI SPY, and “asset” relied on for spying testimony in earlier case).
          Knowing use of phony, uncorroborated, unverified “pee pee” dossier, with lie that it was verified and reliable (actually “lie-able ).
          The FISC court has an extreme duty to punish government overreach and lying, because it is a secret court charged with being a bulwark and protection against 4th Amendment violations.

          When told “we want to spy on a a presidential candidate against hillary, the court said “OK, obama appointed us, and we’re with her”. They did not question or investigate. When told that 85% of the spying they oversee was an illegal violation of the 4th Amendment, the FISC Court did nothing. The entire cohort of the FISC Court should be impeached for participation in fraud and failure to carry out their Constitutional duty

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I think courts are usually silent, the FISC probably especially so. Roberts is in charge of the FISC, he’s a rat (I’ll never forgive him for approving the Obamacare penalty), don’t expect him to say anything.

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  45. Fools Gold says:

    Truth is we’ll have a good idea where this is headed when we look at the IG criminal referrals.

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  46. Tl Howard says:

    I’m totally confused: are you saying that the investigators w/in the IG’s office were unable to get the info they needed from the FBI and the DOJ in order to write an accurate report which would be damning OR are you saying the investigators w/in the IG’s office are themselves corrupt?

    Next, this investigation has been going on since before Barr became AG so is all the work that has been done when RR was still running things likely to be a whitewash?

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    • chojun says:

      Notice that Sundance indicates how the IG report body and the Executive Summary are completely detached. It’s as if they were from two distinct investigations.

      I would encourage anyone who has not done so, to read the IG report on FBI bias. From the IG report there very clearly was systemic bias which very clearly affected their investigative efforts into the Clinton e-mail matter.

      The summary indicates that there was no bias and that the investigation was not affected.

      This dichotomy suggests that there are two competing bodies – the IG and the FBI, with a sympathetic ally in the DOJ who allowed the FBI to be given a pass with the media (who conveniently used the executive summary to exonerate the Clinton e-mail investigation).

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        Look up and to the Lord, do not have faith or look up at Barr or any of these so-called good-doers like Graham, would not trust him as far as I can spit. Just check out his facial expressions (LG) when he speaks and that should tell you a lot. I was told as a young person, that if someone does not look you in the eye while speaking to you, do not trust them. I noticed Bill Barr with Bill Hemmer’s interview Barr was looking down a LOT, or out in the distance but not in Hemmer’s eyes. Did I not view this interview properly?

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  47. pyromancer76 says:

    Keep warning “them”, Sundance. This time everyone is looking in and on, well informed, and there is very little “weaponized government” left to protect them from owning their criminal intentions and actions. I am always happy to see these kind of posts, Sundance. A new sheriff’s in town, well aware of what’s been goin’ down.

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  48. Lester Smith says:

    The biggest problem with these reports are letting those agencies being investigated get to see and have input to the report. Before finial product is released. This creates at least two areas of deep concern.
    1. The players have the ability to get in front and start spinning the narrative to weaken its impact.
    2. The players have input to change the actual wording of the report. This gives the ability to weaken and distort the meaning of the report.
    3. Changing trigger words such as neglect to careless. In other words one word shows criminal intent and one does not. This a crazy way to conduct an investigation. The report is ready but you can change it. The fox is watching the hen house.

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  49. spoogels says:

    HUGE STORY BREAKING TOMORROW IN THE UK DAILY TELEGRAPH:

    Ben Riley-Smith
    ‏Verified account @benrileysmith

    **Exclusive**

    British spy chiefs were briefed on Christopher Steele’s dossier before Donald Trump knew of its existence.

    Heads of MI5, MI6 + one of Theresa May’s most trusted security advisers all knew of the Russian links claims before Trump.

    Summary thread below…

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    • TMonroe says:

      Briefed on it — or helped propagate and shape, one might wonder

      Liked by 1 person

      • donna kovacevic says:

        Yes and those were also involved along with Ukraine, regarding the Skripal poisoning a la May. Russia had nothing to do with either. I hope Russia gets its revenge on all those that wronged them including the evil americans. Zivela Rassia.

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        • donna kovacevic says:

          Has anyone else wondered what that private conversation between PDJT and V.Putin was last year, that even Melania tried to get PDJT out of the meeting? Hmm Vlad speaks perfect english, no translators needed? Some very useful information was given to your President I believe, that is why dems want the transcripts so badly. Hahah probably about kids, grand kids, the weddings. Praying for PDJT, may God Bless Him.

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          • Beau Geste says:

            no doubt it was only about yoga. The FBI knows that russians only wanted to talk about yoga with hillary, before they bribed her and bill (“can’t keep the big dog on the porch”) clinton with $145 million to buy US uranium.

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    • Cathy M. says:

      And you should read that thread along with this thread by Undercover Huber last year.
      It almost looks like ole Ben cut & pasted from U.Huber thread.

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    • spoogels says:

      Suggestion: Trump can “forgive” but not forget this treachery IF THE UK TELLS US WHO BARRY SOETORO AKA BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA REALLY IS. RECORDS AT KEW HAVE ALLEGEDLY BEEN HIDDEN AWAY FROM PUBLIC SCRUTINY

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  50. mark says:

    hmmm….will the IG report if its a whitewash undercut any further action ie. accountability? Won’t the MSM keep referencing the IG report where no one was specifically found to have done anything legally wrong, but mistakes were made? I’m of the opinion it will be another empty bunch of garbage that finds very little criminal wrong doing but says reform is needed and further training. In short…I don’t give a damn about the IG report. I want to see a criminal investigation with indictments and prosecution of those who have broken the law. Seems to me Barr must have figured out by now that the reason the can’t get a true picture of what happend is people are lying their asses to cover themselves. Is this is a criminal probe now, or is it a fact finding investigation on how it started?

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