Senator Lindsey Graham Discusses 2016 “Spygate” With Maria Bartiromo….

Boy howdy, Maria Bartiromo has the big picture of the 2015/2016 political weaponization of the intelligence apparatus exactly right.  In this interesting interview with Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham both Bartriromo and Graham discuss the scale and scope of the 2015/2016 effort to stop Trump.

Interestingly, in a shift of tone, Senator Graham outlines what this surveillance operation means when contrast against the structures of our constitutional government.


Traditionally Lindsey Graham would bury any issue adverse to the institutions of the DC administrative state.  So there’s two possibilities here:  (A) Graham has fundamentally changed his outlook toward the dangers of the institutions within government; or, (B) Graham is doing a full ‘Castellanos‘ and embracing the controversy in order to control the risk to the administrative state with intent to protect it. [The latter is tradition]

The best way for DC to protect itself from the mob’s approach is to lead it themselves. The modern GOPe club has used this defense sending agents to the front of the grassroots anger in order to control the outcome. [Fast-n-Furious, IRS targeting, Benghazi, etc.]

♦When the common sense Tea Party movement formed in 2009 and 2010 it contained a monumentally frustrated grassroots electorate, and the scale of the movement caught the professional republican party off-guard.

♦When Donald Trump ran for the office of the presidency in 2015 and 2016 he essentially did the same thing; he disrupted the apparatus of the professional republican party.

The difference between those two examples is one was from the bottom up, and the second was from the top down. The commonality in the two forces resulted in the 2016 victory.

It took a few years for the heavily armored old guard of GOP to formulate a plan to retain their control. In the example of the Tea Party, the republican power structures moved in 2011 through 2014 to co-opt the vulgarian movement and impede their disruptive influence. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was at the forefront of those power moves. {Go Deep} and {Go Deep} The basic issue for the GOP was retention of power.

McConnell and crew tamped down the fire. A few years pass and the issues that spurred the Tea Party movement remained unresolved. In 2015 Donald Trump taps in to that exact same Tea Party frustration toward the control authority within one-half of the DC UniParty; again, the professional republican apparatus was disrupted.

From the first moment candidate Trump announced his platform positions; from the very first poll *after* those platform positions were announced; Donald Trump was leading the republican field in every-single-poll from August of 2015 through today. Center stage throughout 2015 and 2016 and President of the United States as an outcome therein.

Yes, the “movement” rebranded and now MAGA wins the presidency.

However, think back to the 2015 instructions from republican insider Alex Castellanos as he described how the RNC could eliminate the disruptive influence of Donald Trump:

[…] “The best way to do it is how Brutus killed Caesar. Get real close, snuggle up, and shiv him in the ribs”… (link)

For the past two years it’s been a never-ending game of whac-a-mole as each of the establishment minded embeds surfaces at different times. Within the dynamic, the one commonality within the internecine conflict inside the Trump administration is the establishment GOP -vs- Trump MAGA.

It’s like having an independent MAGA administration that contains establishment terror cells. Each cell acts independently, but each cell also acts based on a common objective: retain the UniParty.

When you think about the actual structure of the National Republican Party -vs- the state party machines; it’s enough to make you wonder if the mid-term outcome and lack of structural fight was not part of this dynamic. After all, “their” party was taken over by a new MAGA base and a new pragmatic political leader, Donald Trump.

The same UniParty dynamic is visible in the way the FBI/DOJ and aggregate intelligence community were weaponized against Donald Trump – with Democrats and Republicans participating in the unlawful processes. Now, in the downstream consequence phase, we see a UniParty defense approach to block Trump from revealing what happened.

I’m not sure people fully completely understand this dynamic within “spygate”. It was not a targeting operation by democrats; republicans were just as complicit. The ongoing goal to eliminate candidate and president Trump is *not* partisan.

I hope Senator Lindsey Graham has encountered something that has fundamentally changed his core sense of identity.  I truly hope that is the case.  However, in the modern era of DC politics I cannot reference an example where the outlook of the individual, the guiding principles, changed inside a politician.

Check the audience at 01:25 (look fast):


CTH has been in this modern-era conservative battle for a long time.  We have the GOPe battle scars, and a thousand points of betrayal to reference.

The genuine Tea-Party/MAGA movement has the same ideologies and objectives.  It is the ‘Monster Vote’.  It is also the most important political movement in our lifetime.  However, we will not promote ‘hope-porn’ and fantasy proclamations amid sudden appearances of political altruism.

We fight for DC change; we support our President, and we accept the battle-space as it exists; not as we wish it to be.

Proceed with cautious optimism…

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229 Responses to Senator Lindsey Graham Discusses 2016 “Spygate” With Maria Bartiromo….

  1. LandofLiberty says:

    You have to listen carefully to Lindsay’s words. He said he intended to get to the bottom of it and see that it never happens again. He did not say AND REFERRED FOR PROSECUTION.
    We must press Lindsay to call Mueller on the carpet and drill him on all his failures to prosecute those on the other side who broke the law. He must be shown for the partisan that he was. He must be shown to be to all the american public on live TV. Why Mr. Mueller did you not prosecute Glenn Simpson for his non disclosure of representing foreign entities. The republicans in the Senate must show this Special Counsel for what there were. Partisan.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Mark McQueen says:

      Congressional committees are not investigative arms of the DOJ and the DOJ need not rely on them for criminal referrals.

      Liked by 4 people

    • William Brayshaw says:

      I think Graham has changed. I still don’t trust but so much, but he has made great strides.
      And he seems consistently pissed when he talks about this, and he is fundamentally opposed to making a strong statement criticizing the GOP or even the Dems, that’s why his outburst at the Kavenaugh Hearing was so shocking.
      He seems consistent and determined to stop the Sedition Conspiracy and “Make sure that never happens again.” It will take serious convictions to stop it! The Dems in the House are still supporting the Sedition Conspiracy even after all the evidence of it rather than their Collusion Delusion.
      There was mention of The IG report mentioning “Media Collusion” in the Sedition against the Trump Admin, that is going to be interesting if the DoJ can prove that some Media persons were active in the Conspiracy, knowing it was false and malicious.


      • yucki says:

        He’s getting off on praise for his “hot under the collar” theatrics.
        He got just as excited promoting the muh-Khashoggi disinfo op and opposing PT’s troop pull out of Syria.


  2. chuckyschmucky says:

    Graham stated that he wants to look into all of these matters (the FiSA warrant, the Clinton investigation whitewash, the spying, etc) to make sure “that it never happens again.”

    The ONLY way to make sure this never happens again is to make certain that ALL of those who engaged in this corruption and criminality are punished to the fullest extent of the law. We will not settle for sensitivity training, bias training, FISA training and other BS whitewashes, a la Christopher Wrat. We want to hear about indictments, convictions and life sentences. That’s the ONLY way to ensure this never happens again. Anything less is an invitation to do it again.

    Liked by 12 people

    • Robert Smith says:

      I want to see Sally Yates bulk up her scrawny body by breaking big rocks into little rocks.

      Liked by 1 person

    • cboldt says:

      The part that “must never happen again” is getting caught.

      FISA exist because “spying on political opponents must never happen again.” 1970’s. How did driving the spying into a secret court work out? Swimmingly, for the billions of dollars that went to the keepers of the secret court.

      Government will not willingly curtail its own excesses.

      Liked by 5 people

    • zozz1 says:

      Amen. Lock ’em up!


    • drlou007 says:

      If we get to indictments, we’re lucky. Where do you think the cases you’re thinking about would be tried? In DC of course, in the center of the swamp, in the jury pool that went 95% for Clinton. What do you think the chances are of convictions of the swamp creatures by their fellow swampers?


  3. Elle says:

    Mitch and Lindsey can, imho, be expected to do what is needed to prevent the Deplorables from crashing their gates while secretly maintaining as much of their power as possible. It makes sense to me that they will happily lead the charge for accountability -from behind – and right over the cliff.

    But on the bright side, in order to placate us, there WILL need to be sacrifices to atone for the wrongs committed. It might be fun to start a pool to see who will be offered up to appease us. Obviously Clapper, Brennan, Yates, Mueller, McCabe, Weissman, Ohrs, Strzok, Page, etc. and the others known to us So, at least there’s that.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Angel Martin says:

      My guess is that the only people who have any criminal liability are those who signed FISA applications with false statements – Comey, McCabe, Lynch, Boente and Rosenstein, and he FBI agent who signed the FISA.

      The problem is that all the higher ups are going to say that they were misled by their subordinates.

      And the subordinates are going to say I was ordered by the higher ups – eg. Lisa Page on FISA leaks to NYT.

      The one person who can’t claim “orders” is the FBI agent who signed the FISA. It’s all going to fall on him, and maybe McCabe since he ordered illegal leaks.

      Liked by 3 people

  4. MaineCoon says:

    Lest anyone forget the Lindsay-Huma tete a tete at the McCain funeral, here is Bombard’s Body Language analysis. The first 4 minutes covers it.

    This short video explains Lindsay’s ‘character”. Buyer beware.

    Liked by 9 people

  5. Angel Martin says:

    Graham is running for re-election in 2020.

    Hence he is currently “presenting” as a MAGA Trump supporter !

    Liked by 7 people

  6. Rick554 says:

    I swear, I Thank the Good Lord everyday that HE allowed Donald J Trump to be our President. Who knows what might be next, but I intend to fight for our Country and this Good Man. And I intend to win or die fighting

    Liked by 4 people

  7. Jim Comey is a weasel_Doug says:

    I can’t get over what a beautiful FLOTUS we have!
    Happy Mother’s Day!!


    Liked by 1 person

  8. Rose says:

    I wouldn’t trust that sniveling snake in the grass with the time of day, he’s all about protecting the deep state and he doesn’t have his corrupt slime bag to hide behind anymore now that he’s deader than dirt. Never trust that man, he’s out to protect the deep state and their demorat controlled institutions. I can smell the corruption wafting off him, it’s called Ode due Toilet, deepstate.

    Liked by 6 people

  9. stats_guy says:

    I think the immigration stuff is really the third rail for the uniparty…don’t mess with our plans. Gramhan said that he’d work with the Dems on the new asylum rules…i.e. lots of amnesty for illegals.

    In a lot of ways I think the whole effort over the last two years has been a bipartisan block to the wall. Hobble Trump and increase the volume of border crossings…create a crisis. Make sure everyone knows just bring a kid and you’ll be in.

    So now the uniparty moves…make some tweaks to asylum law, get a few million people amnestied..and then those that get amnesty will then be able to sponsor their families. That will be the deal…everything else will be the same, no e-verify, interior enforcement stay the same, maybe a small increase in the border wall.

    Oh, and btw…if anyone else want to run for president and build a wall…you saw what happened to Trump, we’ll make it worse for you.

    Part of the problem here is that the North American Union thing was not popular…so they are doing it by other means

    Liked by 2 people

    • WSB says:

      Did I hear correctly that Graham’s bill would demand that asylum seekers from Central America be sought at consulates in their country of origin?

      Did he mean US Consulates?

      Is there not already a provision within International Law that the asylum seeker must apply to the first safe country bordering their own, in other words, Mexico?

      This is disturbing, if what Lindsey Graham is doing is changing that protocol.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Amy2 says:

      Yup. A bi-partisan block of the wall! I didn’t hear a whole lot of Republican Senators congratulating the president on being exonerated (yes, I know Mueller said he couldn’t). As a matter of fact Republican Senators have been quite quiet lately. It’s like when your kids are playing in the other room and then it gets quiet. You know you’d better go check on them.


  10. Mike says:

    “We have the GOPe battle scars, and a thousand points of betrayal to reference.”

    Well said.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Amy2 says:

      You beat me to it Mike. I even copied ” thousand points of betrayal” for my compliment. Thanks for getting in as soon as possible.


  11. apfelcobbler says:

    We are soooo close to learning that Hillary paid Russian agents (oh, excuse me, the DNC) to affect the election. Maybe both Christopher Steele and Julian Assange should be simultaneously extradicted to the US.

    Liked by 3 people

  12. andyocoregon says:

    There’s Pencil Neck (Adam Schiff) on ABC’s This Week talk show today saying the Demorat Congress wants more information so they can decide whether to file impeachment charges against President Trump. Not so long ago, they claimed they wanted to wait for the Mueller Report to come out, then they wanted to see the Unredacted Version and once Atty Gen Barr gave them the option to see it, none chose to do so. Now the talking point is they want to wait and see what Robert Mueller will testify about.
    I think they are once again going to be sorely disappointed and butthurt. There is a lot of Demorat butthurt going around these days.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Amy2 says:

      They just want reasons to keep the word “impeachment” front and center. They don’t have to actually do it, they just want to have reasons to talk about it right up until November 2020.

      Liked by 1 person

  13. rvsueandcrew says:

    Okay, break for the superficial.

    This gave me a giggle. See the photo with POTUS and FLOTUS walking while holding hands. Compare POTUS’s legs from the knees down to FLOTUS’s legs from the knees down. Haha!

    I love these two.

    Liked by 1 person

  14. WSB says:

    The Brutus phase has begun.

    While looking for a timeline of when McStain obtained his copy of the dossier (on or right after November 18, 2016) and when he handed it over to the FBI on December 9, 2016 (I incorrectly thought he handed it to the State Department), I ran across this article from May 2, 2019:

    “Bush administration deputy assistant secretary David Merkel is trying to get back into the State Department in the Trump administration, Big League Politics has confirmed with multiple high-ranking administration sources.

    “Very interesting intro,” Merkel said to me when Big League Politics contacted him to inquire about his angling for the State Department job. “I really don’t have anything to do with the dossier. I don’t have anything to say.”

    David Merkel is the husband of Claire Sechler Merkel, the McCain Institute’s senior director of Arizona programs and a former Cindy McCain chief of staff and John McCain presidential campaign staffer. David Merkel has worked directly with David Kramer, the McCain Institute senior fellow who passed on the debunked Christopher Steele dossier during the “Operation Crossfire Hurricane” plot against President Donald Trump. (READ: Jennifer Rubin Quotes Kramer, Who Passed On The Debunked Dossier).

    It turns out that David Merkel and David Kramer actually worked together to get Obama’s Russia ambassador Mike McFaul confirmed, before McFaul was photographed sitting directly in front of Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian set-up agent in the Don Jr. Trump Tower meeting who coordinated with Fusion GPS head Glenn Simpson. (READ: Mueller Did NOT Interview Spy Natalia, As New York Prosecutors Charged Her to Keep Her OUT Of the Country).


    Merkel came out strong against President Trump’s lifting of sanctions on Russian companies.


    Merkel has also gained scrutiny for his friendship with former Lindsey Graham and John McCain aide Christian Ferry, a onetime Davis Manafort consultant. Merkel sits on the board of trustees at Nazarbayev University in Kazakhstan, according to his bio at the George Soros-funded Atlantic Council, where is a senior fellow. Cindy McCain has shared a photograph of Merkel holding court with her team.”

    So, why would a guy who is completely against the Trump Doctrine want to work for his supppsed State Department?


    Liked by 4 people

    • saywhat64 says:

      Almost everytime Graham speaks all my memory hairs on the back of my neck stand up. His carefully parsed words delivered like he is an adult lecturing to the children almost always reveals his uni-party roots if you listen carefully. Don’t trust him. I’m sure President Trump has a good sense of Graham and will not allow Graham to disrupt the plans for justice. I would love to have been a fly on the golf cart they were using when playing golf together.

      Liked by 3 people

      • WSB says:

        Ha! Yes. Never heard ‘memory hairs’ before, but mine do, too!

        It seems the last alternative for this group is the Brutus approach, and it seems they may be coming from every angle. Graham is just on the advance team.

        Liked by 3 people

  15. vicarioushikermom says:

    Maria was spot on with this interview! Lindsay looked decidedly uncomfortable. She was requiring him to say things he’d rather not say. It was a beautiful thing to watch. Now let’s see what he actually does…

    Liked by 1 person

  16. Alan Reasin says:

    I am a county TEA Party director. Our organization collapsed because DC failed to act and people just gave up. But with Trump, they regained hope that real change was possible, and they went all out for him, as I did, eventually.
    I believe that the “deep state’s” soft coup was using the cover of the rule of law to remove Trump because they were fearful of the reaction of those 63 million Trump supporters with, IMO, the vast majority of the 350 million firearms that are privately owned.
    Looking at what the Democrats/Left/MSM are doing, even after the Mueller report, I worry that they can only be stopped by violence. They believe they can remove Trump now openly since he has not reacted as they, who are so self convinced, would when they believed that they had cornered him. They underestimate his tenacity.
    When we see that AG Barr is being censored for not illegally releasing all of the Mueller Report containing grand jury testimony, I feel the peaceful route to maintaining the rule of law is almost lost. The progressives are so used to the right and moderates giving into them that they cannot accept compromise and will use lying about obvious facts to achieve their goals believing they will overcome any dissent.
    I hope my pessimistic outlook is wrong, but we will know in short order.

    Liked by 2 people

    • andyocoregon says:

      If you follow YouTube videos as I do, you’ll see many instances in which the radical left has used violence against peaceful conservatives at rallies and other gatherings. I’m always prepared to use my strength and hard wooden cane if necessary to defend myself.
      I’d like to see more conservatives fight back when they are slapped, hit or spit upon by loony lefties. The recent attack by this female at the 00:50 minute mark is a good example of someone who deserved IMO to be punched in the nose in self defense.

      Liked by 1 person

    • saywhat64 says:

      They lost all their power and even more importantly the fire wall as soon as Mueller was done. The real power now is held by the DOJ (unleashed) that is now free to go and prosecute all the real criminals.

      You should be way more optimistic now than ever before. A little more patient for the wheels of justice. Those wheel having been gaining more momentum almost daily for the the last few weeks.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Dimbulbz says:

      I stopped donating to our local Tea party when it apparently became a recruiting tool for a local super-church, that actually was using Tea party resources to bad mouth others faith. Yeah, we need that.


  17. Phil says:

    Lindsey Graham’s activities remind me of the Robert the Bruce character in the movie “Baveheart”. A noble who runs to lead the Scots rebellion but doubles as Longshank’s bodyguard.


  18. Attorney says:

    Watching now…cannot see how Graham can walk back words like ‘sick’, etc. in order to placate his Deep State buddies later. Sure, these sleazy polticos can lie on a dime, but still…the guy does sound serious. Maybe he knows what is at stake.


  19. TheBigOldDog says:

    I honestly don’t mind you pessimistic outlook because for most of the last 40 years it’s been totally justified. However, Lindsey doesn’t want to end up like He Who Shall Not Be Named and so, it’s better to be the prosecutor and hero of the Republic than in a box six feet under.


    • TheBigOldDog says:

      PS – I think even we underestimate the severity of what has occurred. They see where whack-a-mole has ultimately lead them all. Now, after the foundation of everything was shaken to the ground, there’s a new sheriff in town and a very large posse and they make the Wyatt Earp and his men look like alter boys. They fired multiple shots at him and they all missed. In fact, most ricocheted and hit them. They are out of good ammo and reduced to throwing rocks. The time of ultimate reckoning has arrived and everyone who can be wants to wind up on the right side of history.


  20. Arrest Soros says:

    I think LG has good political instincts and he realised PDJT would win the 2020 and so he (LG) is backing the winner.
    He also realised that once McCain died, the GOPe resistance to PDJT was weakened a lot.
    LG is for LG and nothing else.

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  21. 3rdday61 says:

    “Proceed with caution…”

    …and keep your powder dry.

    Lots and lots of snakes.

    SD, they should create a brand new award for your level of journalism.


  22. Within this article, Sundance, has questions as to the True intentions of Sen. Lindsey Graham’s ABOUT-FACE from his historical Political-Position.
    ~It is my opinion when John “Songbird” McCain died, Sen. Graham’s misplaced Allegiance to McCain died as Well.~
    All of 2018 and almost half of 2019 witnessing the Democrats RADICAL-IDEOLOGY-MOVEMENT & ABJECT-TRUMP-WORLD-HATRED has demonstrated to Sen. Graham that there is NO Limits to the Depths of Criminality the Democrats will Descend to achieve their Goal.
    * We shall see, said the Blind Man, We shall See.*


  23. Interested Bystander says:

    Graham did everything but name Mifsud (it cracks me up that this woman still can’t say his name) and his accomplices a US intelligence operation when he said the investigation fed Papadapoulos the story about Russia and Clinton emails. If that is ever formally and publicly confirmed the entire investigation will be exposed as a lie. I understand and share the deep suspicion of Graham, but man, my jaw dropped when I heard that. My prediction has been that Horowitz won’t touch this subject, and his excuse will be that it was a CIA operation, and he didn’t have the facts. But if it comes out, via him or some other way…


  24. WDS says:

    Sorry, not sorry. Graham 2.Zero has been firmly embedded in the UniParty swamp for nearly 2 decades and even ran as a dog & pony show candidate against Trump FOR the hacks at the RNC.
    This is a guy that voted to confirm Eric Holder and bent over backwards for years as a go along to get along RINO. All bark and no bite Graham 2.Zero is up for re-election hence the bluster and rhetoric. South Carolinians are weary of this. Check back a few months AFTER his re-election.


  25. Danimal28 says:

    God bless you, Sundance – Joe DiGenova brought you up on Rush’s show recently and for good reason. I have been re-playing several debate videos from ’15/16 and am still amazed at how ‘groomed’ I was to the standard political memes. Thanks to folks like all of you I saw the light pretty quickly back then. D.C. is the complete stain on this country and people need to be prosecuted.

    Grahamnesty did the good work during the Kavanaugh hearings, but that wasn’t hard to do. He has been in congress long enough to have others compile dirt against him – he was McCains wingman for too long – so I don’t think he will lead the prosecution against the corruptocrats.

    Have a wonderful day!


  26. Padric says:

    Here’s my guess: Graham is running for President in 2024. He’s trying to win over as much of the MAGA vote as early possible to increase his odds. I suspect he’s got a decent indication of what things resonate the loudest with us and Spygate is chief among them, the economy is also top 3. Notice, however, his lack of full support for the presidents border initiatives. Quite simply, he’s latching on to those MAGA agenda items he supports at least to some degree and running with them now in the hopes MAGA voters remember that when he’s running later.


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