Vice-President Mike Pence: “This is an outrage” On Claims of FBI Considering Seeding Spies to His Staff…

Can’t make this stuff up folks…. as if on cue.

Vice President Mike Pence responds to Senator Grassley and Senator Johnson’s speculation that FBI agents wanted to use Pence’s chief of staff to infiltrate President-elect Trump’s transition team in 2016:

“I was deeply offended to learn that two disgraced FBI agents considered infiltrating our transition team by sending a counter intelligence agent to one of my very first intelligence briefings only 9 days after the election,” Pence said in a statement to Axios. “This is an outrage and only underscores why we need to get to the bottom of how this investigation started in the first place.”

“The American people have a right to what happened and if these two agents broke the law and ignored long-standing DOJ policies, they must be held accountable.” (more)

Next up: Deep State (IC) deploys Washington Post and New York Times remind everyone how intense the 2016 Russian election interference was…. In 3, 2, 1..

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362 Responses to Vice-President Mike Pence: “This is an outrage” On Claims of FBI Considering Seeding Spies to His Staff…

  1. Kelly says:

    With everything that has been
    Exposed over the past 2 yrs about
    the Obama* administration the DOJ,
    Fbi, IC, clinton, D-rats, an the swamp
    Reeking rhinos the story goes deep.
    I am so Thankful for Admiral Mike Rogers who pulled the curtain back when he did, And made the rats start having scurry in panic mode! I pray for PDJT to stay focused all the time. And I pray for Barr to do the same.

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  2. MustangBlues says:

    Help: I’m stuck in a circular musical chairs post erasure loop, full speed constant erasure mode.

    My pitifully uninformed Posts vanish before the digital is even dry,

    Been Bad Post shamed, no excuse, crossed a PC micro border unknown,

    But hey, ignorance of borders–

    Is no escape from mortal banishment or even extreme torture in North Korea and Iran,

    But no worry, The betters have a plan, very detailed,

    “The Socialism Perfect Life Fulfilling Plan for All To Win All The Time!”

    AKA — Soylent Green Redux, RollerBall Follies.

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    • jello333 says:

      You’re posts are all going through, they’ve just hit a warp… I just got finished reading all of them tomorrow, and they’ll make a lot of sense in 9 plus 7 and a half (no, NOT yellow types)… I’m sure you’ll agree at some point in the past. Correct?

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  3. MustangBlues says:

    You cannot be serious!!! Treacherous nonsense!!

    “It was reported by some state troopers I know that Pence ordered the ISP to stand down and to not provide security for POTUS45. I wasn’t there but I do not question my trooper friends.”’

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  4. Rynn69 says:

    HEY DEEP STATE (RINOS, DNC, OBAMA ADMIN, CLINTONITES) – ALL YOUR TACTICS TO STALL, RUN OUT THE CLOCK, BAN TOGETHER LIKE THE GANG OF CRIMINALS YOU ARE, AND SUBVERT JUSTICE WILL NOT WORK. WHATEVER BS YOU LAY OUT – PHONEY OUTRAGE…WHATEVER…DOES NOT NEGATE THE FACT THAT YOU ILLEGALLY SURVEILLED, LEAKED INFORMATION, PLANTED SPIES, AND CONSPIRED IN A COUP ATTEMPT (AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE, LET’S ASK SETH RICH) TO AFFECT THE 2016 ELECTION AND A PRESIDENT AFTER HE WON. YOU ARE TOTAL POS AND YOUR DARK DEEDS ARE EXPOSED FOR THE WORLD TO SEE. YOUR PATHETIC ATTEMPTS TO HIDE BEHIND YOUR PHONEY BS “RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN THE ELECTION” WILL NOT WORK. YOU INTERFERED IN THE ELECTION MORE THAN RUSSIA COULD DREAM OF. YOU SUBVERTED JUSTICE, THE CONSTITUTION, AND THE LAWS OF OUR REPUBLIC TO DO WHAT YOU DID. YOU POLITICALLY WEAPONIZED OUR INSTITUTIONS. WHAT YOU DID WAS CRIMINAL AND MUST BE HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    VP Pence – RINOs are extinct. I hope that you do not go down the foolish road of traitors like Mattis, Kelly, Gary Cohen, McGahn, Priebus, etc. Are you a wolf in sheep’s clothing?

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    • CHenie says:

      There are a lot of people that think Pence IS a wolf-in-sheep’s clothing and much worse (a pedo). I think he’s RINO and I don’t see a lot of POTUS tweets talking about “our great VP Pence” and Trump will call just about anything “great” or “best ever”…I mean Trump is in hyperbole mode just about 24/7, but no love for Pence?

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      • Mrs. E says:

        Pence is a bore. Even Indiana was getting rid of him from their politics when Trump plucked him from the ash heap. And make no mistake, it was not due to admiration for Pence. Trump asked his people to find a “typical Republican, right down to the suit” and they came up with Pence. I would never want him for president, and have no intentions to vote for him after Trump is gone. His delivery is so artificial, and very poorly executed, so much so that you can do it along with him, mocking all the way. It shows he does not have the intelligence for the job. He is ok at following a strong lead and that is all. No, he is not presidential timber, as they say.

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      • Mark L. says:

        The Bush funeral was very revealing. The cold stares at our beloved POTUS was a real eye opener.

        Liked by 3 people

    • cali says:

      @rynn69: That brings me back to the Flynn case because Katie Seaman (her last name differs from her husband) working for Strzok surely shared info gained about Flynn’s case from Strzok with her husband who worked for Pence. For me Pence’s behavior against Flynn letting him twist in the wind remains suspect.

      It will be interesting to learn what FBI agent Joe Pientka and his 302 on the day of the interview of Flynn by Strzok had to say because he turned ‘whistleblower’ assisting in the investigation.

      Also notable is FBI agent Gaeta stationed in Italy assigned as handler to Christopher Steele turned whistleblower assisting the investigators.

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    • MelH says:

      Rynn 69, thanks for that rant that felt almost as good as writing it myself, since it said exactly what was lurking in my heart.

      Liked by 3 people

  5. Liberty Forge says:

    George Webb has been saying for the past couple of years that Mike Pence has been “wearing a wire” from the very beginning. Mike Pence is Deep State.

    GW has examples where “leaks” from certain meetings can be strung together, and the only common denominator of those meetings is Mike Pence. So, either Mike Pence is “wired”; is leaking; or the WH is bugged.

    Personally, VP Pence has always seemed “slimy” to me — way too smooth & polished — like an actor on a stage.

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    • concerned3 says:

      Remember Pence had the support of Paul Ryan for his selection as VP.

      Liked by 11 people

    • Roni says:

      I suspect Pitcock, Pence’s aide, was a spy.

      Liked by 2 people

    • The Phantom Stranger says:

      The White House is almost certainly bugged by the Deep State. Remember, they’ve controlled the White House for years before Trump. Lots of ways a motivated party with state-level resources could place undetectable bugs in the White House.

      But I’m also sure that Trump and his real allies know this as well.

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      • icthematrix says:

        It was reported that the Secret Service completed a comprehensive sweep for bugs within the last month or so at the White House. I suspect PDJT has been selectively making statements in situations to see who leaks or from where the leaks emerge. My hope is that from the moment Admiral Rogers shared the info about his exposure (prior to inauguration) and they moved their HQ, our President has conducted discussions in very controlled, secure spaces.

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        • jimboct says:

          We now know why VSGPDJT went to Maro Lago every weekend. (Bet we can guess who poked the msm to complain about it). While the humidity can be stifling in Florida, VSGPDJT has a great bug free resort.

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    • If this is true, let’s all just eat worms and die.

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    • madeline says:

      It seems I just read that KIM (NK) doesn’t want to meet with Pompeo anymore. What’s up with that? This is the only article I can find this morning–I don”t usually read the Daily Beast…
      https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiHi7firfDhAhULWa0KHaPID-UQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Fnorth-korea-tells-trump-we-dont-want-to-talk-to-immature-mike-pompeo-anymore&usg=AOvVaw32FtZ1iVcTHQC9x4aOHpoX

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      • GB Bari says:

        Daily Beast is Left wing. As such they have a significant interest in sewing discord among conservatives about the NRA. These stories may be true but likely are exaggerated.
        Ref: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-beast/

        Controversy has followed Oliver North since the Reagan years. He may well be a Marine veteran, but that doesn’t eternally immunize him from mistakes in judgement.

        His reported allegations against LaPierre should be taken with a grain of salt until we read about the situation in a trusted news source. I hope one of our reliable sources picks up this story and clarifies it for us.

        I would not trust anything written about the NRA in the MSM (even though it could contain facts and possibly be true) since the record shows that the overwhelmingly DemoncRAT MSM has been politically aligned against that organization for several decades.

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        • LULU says:

          I would have thought that by now all Conservatives knew the Daily Beast was far left wing. Founded by Tina Brown. Not a reliable source.

          I have always found Pence to be a bore. I imagine he was chosen to balance the ticket with a Midwesterner who had fairly good Conservative credentials. I have a hard time seeing him as a daring coup attempter against the President… May be my blind spot, but he’d never have been anywhere near the White House if it weren’t for PDJT.

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    • concerned3 says:

      In case, it’s not already very clear Paul Ryan is corrupt. The list of corrupt acts are long. Pence was recommended by Paul Ryan for VP. Realize that Pence knew that he needed a Chief of Staff he could trust, especially if he was to spy on President Trump. And, away of communicating his information back to the FBI. It’s a matter of character, Pence seems to be a person presenting himself as near perfect. These people, as a general rule, are deeply corrupt.

      Pompeo, is of course X-CIA. Their is a long history of the CIA directing the activities of the Media. But, it’s not as well known that the State Department is down town propaganda center directed at the US Citizens. So, as secretary of state Pompeo is still in control.

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    • sejmon says:

      They surely do not want continue what great pres. Ronald W. Reagan wanted after fall of “EVIL EMPIRE” to have peaceful ,cordial& beneficial relationship not only for USA,RUSSIAN FEDERATION but for all humanity. Instead they drag NATO troops right to Russian borders….stage overthrow legal gov.of Ukraine in Feb. 2014… Pence/Bolton are for sure neocons Pompeo follow orders Haspel is a mystery…..

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    • botchedcasuality says:

      Can’t upvote, it only reloads so…..👍🏼

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    • botchedcasuality says:

      Can’t upvote, it only reloads so…..👍🏼

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    • Sherbear61 says:

      I’ve known the Webb info for a long time, but I didn’t dare bring it up here.
      I’ve never trusted Pence, even before George said that.

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  6. concerned3 says:

    The CIA Path: Sounds like all Obama had to do was to order the CIA. But, if this is true then what are the documents called that moralize such an order and where are they kept?

    Executive Order 13470 of July 30, 2008

    1.7 Intelligence Community Elements. Each element of the Intelligence Community shall have the duties and responsibilities specified below, in addition to those specified by law or elsewhere in this order. Intelligence Community elements within executive departments shall serve the information and intelligence needs of their respective heads of departments and also shall operate as part of an integrated Intelligence Community, as provided in law or this order.

    (a) The Central Intelligence Agency. The Director of the Central Intelligence Agency shall:

    (1) Collect (including through clandestine means), analyze, produce, and disseminate foreign intelligence and counterintelligence;

    (2) Conduct counterintelligence activities without assuming or performing any internal security functions within the United States;

    (3) Conduct administrative and technical support activities within and outside the United States as necessary for cover and proprietary arrangements;

    (4) Conduct covert action activities approved by the President. No agency except the Central Intelligence Agency (or the Armed Forces of the United States in time of war declared by the Congress or during any period covered by a report from the President to the Congress consistent with the War Powers Resolution, Public Law 93‑148) may conduct any covert action activity unless the President determines that another agency is more likely to achieve a particular objective;

    (5) Conduct foreign intelligence liaison relationships with intelligence or security services of foreign governments or international organizations consistent with section 1.3(b)(4) of this order;

    (6) Under the direction and guidance of the Director, and in accordance with section 1.3(b)(4) of this order, coordinate the implementation of intelligence and counterintelligence relationships between elements of the Intelligence Community and the intelligence or security services of foreign governments or international organizations; and

    (7) Perform such other functions and duties related to intelligence as the Director may direct.

    http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13470.htm

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    • Rhoda R says:

      Ha! Why do you think that the Obama WH would bother to follow an EO written by Bush?

      Liked by 4 people

      • concerned3 says:

        Yes, if they had to. Even Brennan, would not have launched such an investigation without written approval from his boss. This person tried earlier to join the CIA but failed in his training. So he is stupid and a yes man, but hopefully, not stupid enough to spy on a potential president without written orders.

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      • MelH says:

        Orders are such a joke. Who, working alongside the President, would even have time to read the above garbage, especially since it’s doubtful anyone in the previous administration had any intentions of following rules, or orders, or anything but their corrupt intentions, each to his own?

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  7. Heika says:

    This – kind of makes sense now. VP was a sucker for a con.

    Liked by 12 people

    • grlangworth says:

      McCabe don’t approve of folks who cross him. That’s what always gets him in to trouble: He likes his revenge served scalding hot.

      Liked by 5 people

    • GB Bari says:

      And of course we now know beyond doubt that the FBI alters form 302s to reflect what they want it to say as opposed to what an interviewee actually may have said.

      Using a handwritten form (302) is a horribly outdated method that is easily corrupted and should be immediately halted. It should be replaced with a mandatory, unalterable video/audio recording of every interview without pauses or breaks for the entire interview.

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  8. joeknuckles says:

    Shannon Bream had some Dem Douchebag on her show arguing that “what else was the FBI supposed to do”. She cut him off with a quick “Sorry, not buying it”.

    Shannon Bream is an angel. A happy warrior goddess.

    Liked by 10 people

    • dwpender says:

      An angel, a goddess and Miss Virginia while at Liberty U and Miss Florida while at law school in Florida (finished top 10 in Miss America pageant both times).

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  9. joeknuckles says:

    I’d like to add that this outrage trap does not worry me. Their weak-ass excuses don’t even pass the laugh test.

    It’s all they have left and it won’t work.

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    • Too my way of thinking, just me of course…— time togo b@lls to the wall, nailem’ to the wall.

      Sitting VP down and Wray showing 302s…Pence firing Gen Flynn…Ahhh, NO. Don’t believe it…

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    • GB Bari says:

      To you maybe, but the “outrage trap” gives the coup perpetrators an excuse to avoid prosecution and to have their truly illegal actions appear justified to the tens of millions of people who do not read CTH nor follow this scandal in any detail beyond what they are spoon fed by the MSM. And unfortunately that includes a lot of Trump voters whose votes PDJT very much needs in 2020.

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  10. dallasdan says:

    With every additional layer SD peels from the sedition onion, I am increasingly inclined to believe the deep state will win in the end because of its pervasive ans powerful grip on all elements of the government except the President.

    IMO, the only potential solution is for the President to be re-elected and then go nuclear on the entire corrupt infrastructure. However, IMO he is facing great constraints in how he proceeds with his re-election campaign.

    Open and ugly warfare with the deep state kingpins and operatives may be a “bridge too far” in an election season, as it could easily overshadow the economic miracle the President has accomplished. Hence, he rants daily about the situation, hoping someone will help him bear the burden of attacking the cancer consuming the government, but we see nothing happening beyond further exposure of criminality and no evidence of criminal consequences for the principal players in the “coup without consequences.”

    Moreover, he may feel he cannot replace Pence, the “establishment’s minder” on the ticket due to the immediate and severe recrimination that would rain on him from the RNC, RINOs, and Evangelicals.

    If the President is not re-elected, he will be considered a temporary inconvenience that has been removed to facilitate a return to the status quo. The msm and the resistance collaborative of Dems and Repubs will work tirelessly and intensely to erase the President’s footprints, and the country will be lost for the foreseeable future and, perhaps, forevermore. JMO

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    • The Phantom Stranger says:

      The plan all along by the Deep State has been to wait out the four years and politically beat Trump by any means necessary in 2020. Any other option is almost inconceivable for fear of the political consequences. The first step was Paul Ryan all but handing over control of the House in 2018 to the Democrats. That alleviated any pressure on the Republicans to pass Trump’s agenda. I’m sure Ryan thinks of himself as some sort of hero for his actions.

      The Deep State would like to preserve the appearances of a two-party political system, as they already control many elements on both sides. It could take years for them to reestablish control if the apple cart was upset. Better to wait out the four years and put measures in place with their allies (Judicial system, Corporations, etc) stopping Trump’s agenda, than risking a black swan political crisis.

      What the 2016 election proved is they don’t have absolute control of the political process. However, they’ve definitely gamed the system as best they can for their own ends and usually get their way.

      I still wouldn’t bet against President Trump.

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      • Tim says:

        The US political system is designed to prevent quick radical change. look at representative turnover.
        all Reps every 2 years ( even years )
        only 1/3 of senate every 2 years ( so it takes 6 years to fully turnover the senate , 1 and a 1/2 persidential terms )
        president every 4 years..

        The Big Battle is controlling the thoughts of the people. This was easy when there was no internet. The old school media was king. Then an increasing outbreak of democratic media via cable and the internet. Fox news was a huge disrupter. Then all kinds of social media where anyone can publish on the net. twitter, youtube, your own website, podcasts.

        The current battle is how to silence the people on the internet. Taxes or Stealth

        Taxes : Europeans are simply going to copyright headlines and web links and force payments for linking and quoting headlines. Individuals will not be able to pay the copyright fees involved in commenting on media companies stories.

        Stealth : us comanies are shadowbanning people they disagree with ,
        shaddowbanned comments just dont get spread to everyone else without the poster knowing its happening.
        Demonetizing commentators on youtube, without money life is harder. Some peoples videos are demonetized BEFORE they have even finished uploading.
        FAKE: Fake New services which are simply censorship
        Hate Speach policys: also a great way to censor political speech
        Deplatforming: the social media sites simply DELETE your account ,without warning if they want. Be de-plaformed by gmail and all your emails and contacts could be lost.
        search result de ranking , you instantly disappear from the top 100 search results.
        Manipulation of search results , google is amazing at this
        Facebook, has manipulated peoples news feeds to see if they can affect peoples emotions and hence behaviour.

        This is the reason the old media, constantly mock and ridicule Pres Trumps Tweets. Because they fear Trumps direct access to the people via twitter

        just for illustration bing and google for search engine results for “twitter censoring trump”

        bing has as its top result video proof twitter censors trump, google does not.
        https://davidharrisjr.com/politics/video-proof-that-twitter-is-censoring-president-trump-video/
        he likes a Trump tweet and a second or two it is unliked automatically, amazing
        God bless America

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      • YvonneMarie says:

        No one with a brain would beat against Trump.
        AND P. Ryan helped wipe out more than a few RINOs from the House. LOL on P R !ymp

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    • 3rdday61 says:

      What, you mean you’re not waiting with baited breath for the Hon Sen Lindsay Graham to open investigations tit for tat into the Democrats like he said he (could) do?

      I get it that things are seen by each of us differently and should be analyzed with pessimism as well as optimism.

      God did not bring us to this point, only to slam the door in our faces.
      The truth is out in the open. More than enough of We The People know it and yet the revelations just keep coming. If you don’t believe in God… well, that explains the pessimism analysis.

      There’s already a plan for The People to legally create our own money supply almost overnight if we want. No more boom and bust cycles.

      There really is a lot going on that is not seen yet. Big stuff. Great stuff.

      The Republic will stand.

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      • CHenie says:

        Your optimism is inspiring-I tend to disagree-but then I’m cynical by nature and/or upbringing. I can list (and have before here on CTH) at least 20 “scandals” that make “spygate” look like shop-lifting. Yet, they were covered up and we “moved on.”

        POTUS can only do so much. It’s up to AG Barr. He’s a Bush acolyte so…

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    • NOT GOING TO HAPPEN…

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  11. SpanglishKC says:

    Apologies if this has been addressed but not read all comments yet…

    1) Is SD suggesting Pence is part of the resistance? SD always holds his cards close so I never really know…

    2) If you are going to pick a new VP for 2020 would you pick a MAGA candidate? Someone capable of advancing the cause (no one will be as good, we know this but, can at least keep moving forward)!

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    • AlmostDone says:

      Why are you asking such unprompted questions?

      No one has need nor is there use to answer these yet.

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      • CHenie says:

        AlmostDone-excuse me, when did you become CTH editor? Did I not get the memo?

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      • facebkwallflower says:

        We make not like the questions, but the mere posting of this article prompts the two, well-articulated questions. It is the elephant question in the room and thus, definitely not an unprompted question.

        Check the title of this article. Read the innards of the article. Evaluate the comments. Yep, this is definately the thread to ask the begged-for questions.

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      • LULU says:

        Re AlmostDone, the last time I looked this was a forum run by Sundance and his Treeper crew. We didn’t need hall monitors unless someone hijacked a thread or jumped ugly on another poster.

        Asking an interesting question is not hijacking.

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    • Hmmm... says:

      Not speaking for anyone but myself but I think it’s notable that there are now two incidents involving a potential cooperative relationship between team Pence and the very worst at the FBI. I say team Pence because it is not necessarily the case that he is personally involved.

      Considering that they were clearly attempting to impeach and remove the President then the Vice President (and all his satellites) would be clear benefactors. Hard to say at this point if this is just an obvious angle for the bad guys to pursue or if there’s more to it.

      Personally I think that it is likely there is more there. Not necessarily from Pence himself but rather some around him who would greatly benefit in status to go from an aide to the Vice President to an aide to the President. It’s a pretty darn juicy carrot which was why the bad guys at the FBI knew it would be an angle they could exploit. At the very least some of them probably chose not to expose the overtures from the FBI.

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      • meow4me2 says:

        Maybe it was a big juicy carrot because Seaman was a direct report of Strzok with ties to a VIP in the administration. How many other CI agents had ties that high in the admin and that close to the coup plotters simultaneously? I would think not that many. Doesn’t mean Pence is involved.

        Who was doing the vetting of staff? If the vetters wanted to hide connections, they could. Or minimize the concerns.

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  12. Nigella says:

    I’ll just say I don’t trust Pence

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  13. 21leelee says:

    I want to know what happened. Pence is right to ask for detailed info from various sources.

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  14. GSparrow says:

    Given the speculative and excited comments here today (this morning) it appears the “Outrage traps” are working or the site is inundated with “new people.” The Commentariat changed considerably ever since the “Trap” scenario was presented.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Yes I also noticed that. Actually IMO the “Commentariat” has changed since shortly after the 2018 mid term elections. And many of the ones I considered “good folks” seemed to have disappeared after that election.

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  15. Jenevive says:

    Just a note..The Mueller report investigated the transition team as well
    how come they never wanted to question VP Pence, since he headed it up?
    He also was on the campaign, the second in command so to speak.
    yet we have not heard one word of Muller people ever talking to or
    questioning Pence? Why?

    Also wasn;t it one of his “people” who helped scuttle Ronny Jackson nomination
    now this Pitcock guy?

    Weren;t we told Pence was picked as VP cuz he had the congressional
    experience that POTUS didn;t, Pence could get things done/passed?
    How well has that worked out?

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  16. paulraven1 says:

    Well that’s new. He’s deeply offended rather than being deeply honored.

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  17. wightmanfarm says:

    Sounds to me like they’re all going to get away with everything.

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  18. Roger Duroid says:

    Muler never interviewed pennie pence???? I am shocked!

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  19. ccrabill says:

    Pence has suspiciously remained quiet these last two years. Rarely, if ever, has he come to Trump’s defense. I wouldn’t doubt for a nanosecond that he’s a part of this coup, as GHW Bush was behind trying to assassinate Reagan, and LBJ completely complicit in assassinating JFK.

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    • sejmon says:

      I hope VSGPDJT got plan how to deal with Pence-run with him till 2020 shortly after election sent him to -spent more time with family and groom MAGA republican to be next pres. NUNES/JORDAN…

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  20. The Gipper Lives says:

    I don’t get the sense that Pence is dirty like Sessions was. He is saying what the President and Barr is saying: investigate the origins and conduct. After all, it IS an outrage–even if the origins must be exposed and discredited first. Then the Outrage Trap goes away.

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  21. AMK says:

    After all we’ve learned, doesn’t it seem more likely than not, that Pence was in on the coup from the beginning?
    Remember, hillary was supposed to win..but she’s a loser…so plan B….maybe Pence was part of the “insurance policy”?
    Then they (“they” being the deep state) thought they could get President Trump impeached, or removed in SOME way…they had to have SOMEONE to take over and continue the charade once they got rid of PT….so they HAD to have a controllable VP…but the coup failed….Pence is going down, I think.

    Plastic Pence….no way I can see him as President Trump’s replacement.

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  22. Kaco says:

    It’s encouraging in what he said in the rest of the sentence:

    “… only underscores why we need to get to the bottom of how this investigation started in the first place.”

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  23. jimboct says:

    Traditional thinking on elections state that you choose your VP at first to shore up support in the states you do not have support. The other consideration is who is groomed to be the next POTUS. A third reason seems to have emerged that you keep your friends closer and enemies closer. (I don’t suspect that was the reason VSGPDJT selected Pence.
    That said, many have called for a new VP. Nunes seems to be a popular choice. I suspect because many feel he’d make a great POTUS after VSGPDJT is term limited. If our administration was a classic administration, I’d say lets do it. Get Nunes in there and lets KAG.

    As you all know, VSGPDJT administration breaks the rules of convention. He will not limit his cultivation of the next POTUS to the VP slot. Like a good business executive, he’s used to many VP (whether they are Senior VP, Exec VP’s etc) and I’m certain would have them compete to see who wants it and who will fit the VSGPDJT mold.
    Changing Pence without good cause will only make a mess out of the re-election campaign. VSGPDJT already asked at a rally whether Pence would run with him again.
    What I suspect VSGPDJT will do is search for his successor. The crucible will be who shines in the fight against the coup. Just as important as the Presidential Election, is how the Senate and House play out in 2020. VSGPDJT MUST keep the Senate. Getting back the house would be nice but not as important as the Senate. I suspect many shouting voices on the left in the house are going to find themselves living in interesting times as they push VSGPDJT. They will find out that the same IC that attempted to overthrow VSGPDJT, has all their dirty secrets in the database. All it takes is one patriot to leak the information. Snowden told us all its there. Wikileaks shared the hypocrisy of the DNC. The new patriot (whoever he or she is) will spill the beans on the Shiff, Schumer, Pelosi, Cummings, etc.

    Get the popcorn, chill the beer or pop open a nice cold water; we are living in interesting times. VSGPDJT will not rest until justice is served. Last call at the Barr

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  24. meow4me2 says:

    Like any good executive, the President is doing succession planning, not just for his own position, but many other critical ones. I’m sure of it. He’s just too good as an executive to not be doing it. He understands the need for continuity. I don’t see him choosing to turn the government back over to the RINO Uniparty politicians who broke it.

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  25. rustybritches says:

    I THOUGHT it was rather strange when I heard that Mrs Pence didn’t think it was quite right she was only the second lady and she told people that she was disgusted by PT behavior and has made it her role to stay away from him unless she couldn’t do anything else. so maybe Pence hoped for PT to go down so he could install her as first lady makes perfect sense to me..

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    • sejmon says:

      Rusty. .did you notice on funeral of BUSH ..no eyes contact VSGPDJT with Pence and he received envelope..was it not warning to Pence -you are either with me or you end up as mcstain/shrub sr. not literally but forcefully retire ????

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      • GB Bari says:

        IMO the entire funeral service situation was strained in terms of the personal relationships between the VIPs in those two or three front rows. That there was no eye contact with PDJT was not surprising to me. Everyone knew that PDJT seriously disapproved and was outspoken and critical of the political records of McCain and every Administration since Reagan. That was the group in those rows.

        Pence was there only as the current VP. He had no political equivalence to the rest of the group in the front two rows. However Mike Pence is Swamp-friendly. No nicer way to put it. His history is with the Swamp dwellers. President Trump is a Washington DC outsider in all senses of the word.

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  26. Brenrod says:

    My understanding is that there are two spying issues:
    1-Joshua Pitcock, husband of Katie semen who worked for Peter Strock, was referenced by Lisa page as “Katie’s husband” in a manner which suggested they could depend on Katie‘s husband to spy for them. Spence may or may not have known, But I would have expected that Pitcock would have been vetted and that the vetting would have included the facts about his wife.
    2-Andrew McCabe, in his first intelligence briefing to Mike Spence had him read the 302‘s from the Flynn interview. Were these the original 302‘s or the revised notes which contradicted each other with respect to Flynn’s lying? I remember that trump said he fired Flynn for lying to Mike Spence. Perhaps the Flynn sentencing has been postponed due to this information.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Apparently Pitcock had worked for Pence prior to Trump choosing Pence as his VP. So Pence probably trusted Pitcock. I wonder if Pitcock ever disclosed to Pence that his wife had been working on the Hillary email investigation.

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  27. icthematrix says:

    If Pence is suspected at all by our team of being even slightly conflicted, I hope they find a soft landing with the nomination of PDJT’s successor as his running mate for 2020. If this is all to come gushing forward within the next month or so, there should be plenty of info available to know if Pence himself was even slightly complicit in sharing info.

    There are some strong MAGA supporters among Congress and governors who would be real assets in the election and administration.

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  28. covfefe999 says:

    So like lemmings is everyone going to start attacking Pence now? Has anyone considered that maybe Pence is a victim here? That the traitors were trying to find someone close to Pence they could leverage?

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    • GB Bari says:

      Yes some will attack Pence because of what they don’t know. I don’t know much about him other than his history of dealing with the Swamp. He has risen to PDJT’s defense a few times but been conspicuously absent more often than not when there’s any significant political controversy.

      Also, curiously, the press avoids seeking Pence for his comments on just about everything. Is that by Pence’s design or is the VP just not very accessible?

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I’m guessing the propaganda media doesn’t want to talk to Pence because it’s easier for them to make believe that he’s some homophobic freak and if they actually interview him and allow him to speak he’ll come across as an entirely sane and kind individual. Not the stereotype they want to portray.

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  29. JimWVa says:

    Right again, Sundance.

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  30. JimWVa says:

    And: Trump-Pence 2020! Take it to the bank.

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  31. SundaysChild says:

    I’m holding off on reaching conclusions until this shakes out a little clearer but Pence will be on the radar until it does. Whether he was complicit with his top level officials or totally unaware – it’s not a great look. Pence has been in the political arena a long time, he shouldn’t be easy to snow.

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  32. covfefe999 says:

    We know the traitors were trying to spy on and infiltrate the Trump campaign. Remember Stefan Halper? He was trying to get appointed to a position in the Trump administration! The traitors were leveraging every opportunity. It doesn’t mean they were successful. Trump had won the election, he and Pence were beginning to receive official briefings. You CANNOT be suspicious of that. It looks like Strzok and Page wanted to send someone in to cozy up with anyone they could, to get inside info. They probably figured FBI Agent Katie Seaman’s husband might be a friend, IF that’s the right Katie, Hannity is the one who claims the Katie is Katie Seaman but we don’t really know.. There’s no sign that anyone got to Pitock and Pitock says they didn’t. I’m disturbed by so much talk of suspicion of Pence here. If the traitors had mentioned Hope Hicks many of you would be attacking her too. I see a lot of trash talk about Kushner, and Barr too, all unfounded. Get some real evidence if you want to be suspicious of someone. If Strzok or Page had texted “Talked to Pence, he’s a go” or something like that, THEN you’d have something to work with. The mere mention of his name regarding a briefing that was going to occur for normal business is nothing.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      And I want to add … does anyone think it suspicious that we keep getting this incredibly slow drip of info releases? I’m not really in a hurry I guess but what are the motives of Sara Carter or Fox News in holding back text messages that appear to have importance? I’m tired of being baited. I’m tired of tick tock and predictions that don’t pan out. I just want the facts, let me make up my own mind.

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  33. LULU says:

    I have little or no interest in drama queen Sara Carter. For a long time she tagged along with John Solomon, who was the real investigator in the duo. He finally went solo. She did, too, but her “breaking” reports are too often late and derivative of work done by others – like Sundance.

    She hits Hannity and does her wide eyed breathless glamor bit – more bogus “breaking” urgency – which may have value because it gets some of this stuff out to a television audience – but she also takes credit for it, which I find to be inappropriate. Not her own work product.

    I am very concerned about our heading into conspiracy theories based on little information. Best to be watchers (we should ALWAYS be watchers) without feeding the propaganda machine that says President Trump’s base is wobbly. That is the goal of those who would remove him or defeat him in 2020. Why on earth do we feel a need to feed it?

    I’ll follow Sundance’s lead, but I won’t run out ahead of it…

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