Leaked Lisa Page Testimonial Transcripts on CIA Brennan Angle, Confirms Likelihood of Dossier Origination….

The leak wars have officially begun.  “Caveat emptor” (buyer beware) is the general warning to all interested followers of the story-lines.

In response to leaks of congressional testimony to The Epoch Times (Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe) damaging to the prior narratives of the DOJ and FBI; the opposing side of the political continuum begins leaking transcripts to the New York Times (James Baker) favorable to the DOJ and specifically FBI.  Damn these insufferable leakers, their agendas, and their weaponized political motives; all of them.

CTH suspected this bull sh*t was going to start as soon as we saw the first Lisa Page transcript leak.

As a result we are now reduced to reviewing information through the pre-filter of the media outlet delivering the analysis of the transcript; a process CTH hates with the passion of a thousand supernovas.

The New York Times leak-angle is to justify *why* the FBI contemplated opening an investigation on candidate, president-elect and president Trump . – SEE HERE –  That said, sticking with the Epoch Times leak-angle on Lisa Page testimony for a moment, there is an aspect to the CIA activity of John Brennan which confirms prior suspicions.

Here’s the part that pertains to earlier CTH research on the issue of Brennan, the CIA, and more importantly Fusion-GPS contract employee Nellie Ohr who we confirmed also worked for the CIA:

Epoch Times […]  Page staunchly maintained that any briefings given to the White House were always about the “Russian active measures effort” and were not in relation to “Crossfire Hurricane,” the FBI’s name for their counterintelligence investigation into the Trump-Russia allegations.

Brennan has admitted during congressional testimony that his intelligence helped establish the FBI counterintelligence investigation:

“I was aware of intelligence and information about contacts between Russian officials and U.S. persons that raised concerns in my mind about whether or not those individuals were cooperating with the Russians, either in a witting or unwitting fashion, and it served as the basis for the FBI investigation to determine whether such collusion [or] cooperation occurred.”

This admission is important, particularly since Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) had previously disclosed that no official intelligence was used to open the FBI’s investigation.

Brennan’s role was highlighted again during testimony, as one Representative questioning Page questioned her in relation to an Aug. 25, 2016, text message: “What are you doing after the CH brief?” CH almost certainly referred to “Crossfire Hurricane.”

Page was asked specifically about an event that occurred on the same day:

“It’s the same day that Director Brennan is briefing Harry Reid, is why I ask. And so what you’re saying is you were unaware that Director Brennan was briefing Harry Reid that same day?”

Page said she was unaware of Brennan’s briefing to Reid. She was then asked the following:

“You give a brief on August the 25th. Director Brennan is giving a brief. It’s not a Gang of Eight brief. It is a one-on-one, from what we can tell, a one-on-one briefing with Harry Reid at that point. And it becomes apparent, based on your text messages and based on Director Comey’s emails, that you all are aware that that conversation took place. Were you aware that Director Brennan had a briefing with Harry Reid and that you expected a letter from Harry Reid?”

Page noted that she remembered the letter sent by Reid, but seemed confused as to Brennan’s involvement and possible knowledge of the Steele dossier. Worth noting is that while some within the FBI likely had parts of the dossier in July, the Counterintelligence investigative team did not receive it until mid-September during a trip to Rome where they met personally with Steele.

The Representative, who was clearly aware of the disparity in timing, focused on precisely how Brennan might have been aware of the dossier in August:

Rep.: So what you’re saying is, is that you had no knowledge of these potential unverified memos prior to the middle part of September in your investigation?

Page: That is correct, sir.

Rep.: Okay. So on August 30th, you and Peter are going back and forth, and you go, “Here we go.”  If you’ll look at 9:44:50 on August the 30th, you go, “Here we go.” And it’s referencing “Harry Reid Cites Evidence of Russian Tampering in the U.S. Vote and Seeks FBI.” Now, what happens is, and what I guess gives me a little bit of concern is, if you drop down, that if you drop down to the same day, August 30th, 9:45, it says:  “The D”—which I assume means Director—”said at the a.m. brief that Reid had called him and told him that he would be sending the letter.”

Page: Okay.

Rep.: So you get a brief that says, well, we got the letter, but it’s almost like it’s a coordinated effort between Harry Reid and the FBI Director, because obviously, he’s briefing you.

After a bit of back and forth, Page responded, “I don’t know what Harry Reid was told or why or what the purpose of Brennan [was.]”

The Representative pressed on:

“Why would Director Brennan be aware of things that the FBI was not aware of at this particular point when it actually would potentially involve, according to Peter Strzok’s word on January 10th of 2017, an unverified salacious set of memos?”

And then the big reveal:

Rep.: We have documents that would suggest that in that briefing the dossier was mentioned to Harry Reid and then obviously we’re going to have to have conversations. Does that surprise you that Director Brennan would be aware [of the dossier]?

Page: Yes, sir.  Because with all due honesty, if Director Brennan—so we got that information from our source, right?  The FBI got this information from our source. If the CIA had another source of that information, I am neither aware of that nor did the CIA provide it to us if they did, because the first time we —

Rep.: We do know there are multiple sources.

Page: I do know that.  I do know that the information ultimately found its way lots of different places, certainly in October of 2016.  But if the CIA as early as August, in fact, had those same reports, I am not aware of—I’m not aware of that and nor do I believe they provided them to us, and that would be unusual.

Rep.: Were you aware that Christopher Steele had conversations or multiple conversations with Fusion GPS and others outside of just working special intel for you?

Page: As of August of 2016, I don’t know who Christopher Steele is. I don’t know that he’s an FBI source. I don’t know what he does. I have never heard of him in all of my life. So let me just sort of be clear. When the FBI first receives the reports that are known as the dossier from an FBI agent who is Christopher Steele’s handler in September of 2016 at that time, we do not know who—we don’t know why these reports have been generated.  We don’t know for what purpose.

A bit later in the discussion, the representative asked another question:

“So you don’t know whether it’s a coordinated effort to get you those documents or not at that point in September?

Page responds, “Coordinated by whom, sir?

Rep.: Anybody, other than a confidential human source saying, “Listen, I’ve got reason to be concerned and bring it to you.” It could be coordinated by the CIA. It could have been coordinated by Fusion GPS. You don’t know.

Page: At the time that we received the documentation, no. What we have is the preexisting relationship with the source and the reliability of his prior reporting.  (more)

The key issue here is one of timing.  Lisa Page states emphatically the FBI investigative unit first became aware of the Steele Dossier in mid-September 2016.   However, CIA Director John Brennan is demonstrably briefing Gang-of-Eight Senators (including Harry Reid) in August 2016 on the material in the dossier.

Page says: “If the CIA had another source of that information, I am neither aware of that nor did the CIA provide it to us if they did.”  This cuts to the heart of the dossier origination as our CTH research discovered it back in 2017.

Billionaire supporter of Marco Rubio, Paul Singer, originally contracted with Glenn Simpson (Fusion GPS) for opposition research on Trump in late-fall 2015.  Glenn Simpson and his wife Mary Jacoby had extensive pre-existing research files on Paul Manafort and Russia dating back years.

Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson then hires Nellie Ohr at the end of November 2015 to work on the Trump project.   Nellie Ohr works on that project throughout Dec ’15, Jan, Feb, March, April 2016.   The Fusion-GPS contract with Paul Singer was discontinued in March 2016; but Nellie Ohr continued working on it.  The reason why we put Nellie at the center of that graphic more than a year ago is because of her importance:

In April 2016, after Paul Singer cancelled the contract with Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson’s wife Mary Jacoby goes to the White House (April 19th, 2016).  Immediately thereafter Team Clinton picks up the research and start paying Glenn Simpson (Fusion-GPS) to continue developing it.  However, at the same time Clinton picked up the Trump project, Fusion contracts Christopher Steele to write his research dossier.

Mrs. Nellie Ohr was not only a Fusion GPS contracted employee, she was also part of the CIA’s Open Source Works, in Washington DC (link)  Both Mr. Bruce Ohr and Mrs Nellie Ohr worked on a collaborative CIA group project surrounding International Organized Crime. (pdf here) Page #30 Screen Shot Below

When you overlay the timeline with the demonstrable activity, it becomes transparently easy to see exactly what was taking place.

Here’s what has always seemed obvious:

♦ When Glenn Simpson hired Nellie Ohr (Nov ’15) he was hiring a CIA analyst and Russian expert.  Nellie Ohr had research access to the FBI/NSA database.  It is almost guaranteed Mrs. Ohr’s work in Dec, Jan, Feb, March was done by exploiting her “contractor” access to the database through FISA-702(16)(17) searches.

♦ It is not coincidental that the exact timeline when the NSA compliance officer noted an uptick in FISA-702(16)(17) database search abuses (November ’15 through April ’16) coincides perfectly with Nellie Ohr’s contract with Fusion GPS.  The FISA court report from Judge Rosemary Collyer speaks directly to this timeline:

(link)

♦ Glenn Simpson hired Ohr in November 2015,  Nellie took the material already assembled by Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby in years passed, and used her CIA access to the FISA database to prove it, and enhance it.   She eventually built out more evidence and expanded the research.   By mid April 2016 Nellie Ohr had amassed a bunch of illegally obtained information surrounding the Trump empire, and, additionally, had information on Manafort and Russia etc.

♦ When Team Clinton get involved in April 2016 (that team includes Brennan Inc.), they needed to weaponize all of Nellie Ohr’s research.  That’s where Chris Steele is brought in to receive the Nellie Ohr information, launder it into an intelligence product, where it became “the Steele Dossier”, and then inject it back into the intelligence community.  CIA Director Brennan always knew of the material before the FBI did, because Brennan was part of the construction team.

Christopher Steele is not the actual author of the material inside the ‘Steele Dossier’, but rather he was attempting to wash away evidence of FISA database abuse by finding alternate confirmation for the underlying material.  Once he could provide ¹plausible secondary origination for Ohr’s material, Steele sent it back to Fusion-GPS in chapters.

Nellie Ohr was, is, and will always be, the factual author of the material inside the Steele Dossier.  Notably Nellie Ohr refused to testify to the joint house committee citing spousal privilege as the excuse to avoid questioning.

Nellie Ohr, a CIA contract employee, is at the epicenter of the Steele Dossier; and as a result she is the person who created the basis for all of the FISA surveillance warrants that exploited the dossier for approval.

Of course CIA Director Brennan was briefing Harry Reid in August 2016 on the dossier material a month prior to the FBI unit receiving it…. Brennan helped create it.

¹”plausible” – the Cohen-in-Prague mistake within the Steele Dossier is evidence of Nellie Ohr mistakenly interpreting a database search query result for the wrong Michael Cohen.

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467 Responses to Leaked Lisa Page Testimonial Transcripts on CIA Brennan Angle, Confirms Likelihood of Dossier Origination….

  1. After personally giving her a parole visa, Lorretta Lynch sent Natalia Veselnitskya over to Trump Towers so they could scream “RUSSIANS MET WITH TRUMP JR!”. Glen Simpson starred as the taxi-driver, room service waiter, the switchboard operator and the concierge while Nellie Ohr played the part of French chambermaid.

    Now that she is safely back in Russia, Mueller has charged Veselnitskya with obstruction.

    Q: If Mueller charged her with obstruction so she wouldn’t come back here and spill the beans on Lynch and the Cockroach Coup, isn’t the obstruction charge itself an obstruction of justice?

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    • WES says:

      Gipper: Just burying the evidence!

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      • Also to consider:

        18 U.S. Code § 1512 – Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant

        (d)Whoever intentionally harasses another person and thereby hinders, delays, prevents, or dissuades any person from—
        (1)attending or testifying in an official proceeding;

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    • Doppler says:

      I like it Gipper.

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    • Jan says:

      Technically, this latest obstruction charge against Veselnitskya was brought by the SDNY division of the DOJ and is a totally different case involving her client, a Russian real-estate conglomerate Prevezon (in which Fusion GPS is also involved) which has nothing to do with the Mueller investigation OR Pres. Trump, his campaign team, or his company. It’s obvious the DOJ/FBI/Deep State want to squeeze her if they can, but as long as she stays in Russia, she won’t be extradicted. This is not to say that the SDNY isn’t in cahoots with the Mueller investigation. There is obstruction of justice everywhere you look insofar as it concerns Mueller and his “boys,” and it all stems from them, not the President.

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      • stephen fenlon says:

        The charge against Veselnitskya dates from an investigation that started in 2013. Yet Lynch still gave her SPECIAL clearance to enter the US in 2016. NOW, she is charged. 5 years later Sorry, but it stinks of trying to keep her out of the country incase Fusion GPS machinations are exposed.

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        • JoAnn Leichliter says:

          But if you look at Mueller’s work, this is just what he does. Very little that he uses to prosecute people was original. Most of it dates back long before the Trump campaign and is, in fact, quite unrelated to it. He then uses this material as leverage to try to coerce cooperation from subjects of these old investigations.

          No doubt there is nothing new about this technique, and Mueller–who has been ethically challenged for decades–has doubtless used it in the past to get what he wants. Truth has never been the point here; just the production of things that get you what you want, regardless. So if Veselnitskaya stays in Russia, that is good, because she cannot spill the beans. If she comes back, he has her in a vice (he hopes). And none of this is related to the Trump campaign. Lots of people make lots of money using other people’s actual work.

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      • Pete says:

        There is nothing in this matter “Russian collusion ” that is unlinked. As long as any of it includes a member of the D O J. Sad to say but it’s a pit of vipers.

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      • digleigh says:

        Yes. Remember Eric “the pervert” Scneiderman (100 lawsuits against Trump/no bias there!)was working with Mueller prior to his untimely exit(according to a news article)! I believe the “anti-Trump and relieved of his duties by Trump”, Phreet H bara, and this new Attorney General lady who expressed major bias, by announcing all her anti-Trump investigations of family, friends, etc……are all in this as Mueller ( wants out….and tossed it to others to continue the witch hunt!!)….. This is all CYA FOR Brennan, Obama, Comey, Clintons, FBI/DOJ/CIA/NSA/DNI CORRUPTION, and NeverTrumper involvement !!! As Schumer knew……” take care Trump as the intel know six ways to Sunday HOW to get BACK at you…!!” He knew…..Brennan and Reid’s emails/blackberries may show their collusions, IMHO……. All that is hidden will be uncovered….(scrip.) Prayers for our President and his family and all who are working for him, and imprecatory prayers for those with evil purposes!

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      • Dahimm says:

        With schemers like these there is no such thing as “a totally different case…” They are manipulating everything they can within their universe/sphere of influence to affect whatever outcome they have in mind. Hence, an old and unrelated Manafort financing investigation is dredged up to provide fodder in the ‘Trump colluded’ narrative. Veselnitskya is the targeted pawn because she has the requisite connections, motivation, personality necessary to execute the Russian optic. I would be astounded if Mueller and SDNY were not coordinating every move they make in this bury the evidence campaign.

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      • Mary Morse says:

        Link to the DoJ press release related to the indictment for the details:
        https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/russian-attorney-natalya-veselnitskaya-charged-obstruction-justice-connection-civil
        There is a link to the indictment at the bottom of the release.
        From the release:
        …” Mr. Berman praised the outstanding investigative work of the Special Agents from the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York and HSI.

        The case is being handled by the Office’s Money Laundering and Transnational Criminal Enterprises Unit and its Public Corruption Unit. Assistant United States Attorneys Paul M. Monteleoni and Benet J. Kearney are in charge of the prosecution.

        The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.”

        Monteleoni represented SDNY at William Browder’s deposition. There is considerable discussion about who told Browder about ongoing investigations of prevezon and katsyv in other countries. Neither Monteleoni nor his lawyer , want Browder to answer. There also are questions related to the MLAT request mentioned in the indictment. Start at p.184, line 7 of the Browser deposition https://www.google.com/search?q=browder+deposition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

        The indictment indicates that US initiated an MLAT request, Russian prosectors responded, US prosecutors denied defense’ request for the MLAT response during discovery. ..
        Veselnitskaya is indicted for obstruction. Its alleged that she helped write Russian response. Browder provided all the information to SDNY that started this mess. Is anyone looking at him for obstruction?

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    • The Boss says:

      The entire Mueller investigation is an obstruction of justice at the very least. It more likely is evidence of a seditious conspiracy dressed up as a legitimate law enforcement action.

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    • anthony earl says:

      who says that she could not spill the beans on camera of the whole story

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    • ibid says:

      Sir, I know French chambermaids, and that, sir, is no French chambermaid.

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  2. Donna in Oregon says:

    The Conservative Treehouse followed this closely. Did more work than the DOJ/FBI to catch the culprits. Not a damn thing happened to the corrupt government officials involved.

    When Americans finally amass in front of DOJ/FBI headquarters and demand justice these leaks mean something.

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    • nimrodman says:

      How do we get some folks inside to start leaking stuff that prods the McCabe vs DOJ factions to leak more stuff detrimental to each other?

      To the point where they overstep and really do themselves some serious damage?

      We need some COINTEL ops to trip up the COINTEL operators.
      Gnomesayin’

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      • Searkreb says:

        Exactly nimrodman! Where are ALL the white hats?
        This is not a knock at Sundance but I have gone through the emotional gauntlet from 4d chess to the big ugly, Huber, sessions, et al. From childi like jubilation to complete dejection to dusgust, back to somewhere in between. What can I/we do beside pray( which is the best) and maintain interest?

        Can someone tell us for sure the more is going on below the surface or will it take some unforeseen event(miracle) to bust this thing open.

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        • antiqueiron says:

          All it would take to bust this thing wide open is for President Trump to pick up the phone.

          Ring ring, hello Marines? Send a platoon or two over to sweep the Capitol building & detain everyone you see. Oh, & while you’re at it stop by the Obama’s & pick them up and Val Jar too, and the Clintons, don’t forget them. Send someone over to see Brennan too, if he opens his fat mouth, light his butt up…

          I know, apparently not gonna happen, but one can dream.

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      • Jederman says:

        There is not, nor has there been enough pressure on the DoJ/FBI to force anyone inside to turn on each other.

        This whole mess is rotten to the core but what I find MOST disturbing is that (as far as we know) the entire apparatus, DOJ/FBI are a closed fist. Nobody has the stones to review their oath of office and act accordingly. Cause they’re “protecting the institution” and stuff.

        Not a historian but I’ll go out on a limb and say it’s never been more of a case of us (about 60-70M Trump voters) versus them (DS). It will have to be reconciled.

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    • Searkreb says:

      Everybody is given protection from testifying. Can the president bring a lawsuit instead of congress getting the runaround?
      What is the mechanism that will just this open?
      Nellie Ohr, fusion gps, Brennan, Comey, clapper, Obama, Clinton, mueller, the guy who did Clinton servers, all the smashed phones, etc.

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  3. RJones says:

    SD has documented the real story here, with facts, going back to before Jan 2017…

    But, I can tell you I know Lisa Page is lying now and I knew this was all BS back in Nov 2016, very simply because any dirt surfacing in Oct of an election year is suspicious on its face. Any FBI agent claiming her hair was on fire over Russians based on information surfacing in October is both a complete idiot and a liar. They are an idiot since they think we’ll take such nonsense seriously, and they’re a liar because they are pretending it was a serious threat. Nonsense. It was all OBVIOUSLY election yr BS.

    Whoever set all this up is seriously nefarious. One has to believe it was Brennan and his filthy CIA rats that did it. I hope they’ve all been flushed out and will now be flushed down the toilet like the complete PsOS that they are.

    As for after the election, I am still unclear what happened. My number one interest is in finding out if Jeff Sessions was part of any effort aimed at removing Trump. There are currently so many stories/theories out there that 1/ it’s impossible to keep up, 2/ the proponents self contradict themselves over time, and 3/ the American people are left confused and very angry.

    It’s about time this crap ended and someone start telling us what the h is going on. This is our country. Not their damn playpen for playing their dumb political games. This entire thing is revolting, most especially watching the media and journalists abdicate their role in discovery of the truth. Sickening bunch of a-wipes.

    Until Jeff@marketswork proves nefarious, I trust him…at least he is working, along with SD, to get to the bottom of this. I get the downside, but all of us are tired of this. Turn the stinking lights on me let the chips fall.

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    • justlizzyp says:

      …and don’t forget about the first FISA warrant- in June of July!

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    • stephen fenlon says:

      I thought Steele met with his handler in Rome in June or July?
      It takes 3 months for an FBI agent to report back to HQ ? Give me a break !
      Also, when did they claim to first start investigating Papadopolous, because they also claim he was before carter page ?

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      • Mary Morse says:

        …” Any FBI agent claiming her hair was on fire over Russians based on information surfacing in October is both a complete idiot and a liar.”…

        Exactly. Just the logistics take time. From the ET report:
        …”On July 5, 2016, Gaeta traveled to London and met with Steele at the offices of Steele’s firm, Orbis. For this visit, the FBI sought permission from the office of Victoria Nuland, the assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs. Nuland, who had been the recipient of many of Steele’s reports, gave permission for the more formal meeting.”…

        How long did it take to plan the meeting, make travel arrangements, andd getstate Dept approval? Back it up from July 5, 2016, and add it to SD’s timeline above.

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    • TANGO268 says:

      Now that Sundance has laid all this out, and shown what machinations Brennan is capable of doing, does anyone on CT believe he was not capable of: 1. planting a birth announcement on microfiche, 2. inserting a Selective Service registration card in the archives in Chicago, 3. hiring someone to mash up a .pdf birth certificate, and 4. using his contractors to purge the passport applications database of contradictory evidence?

      Call it off-topic if you like, but the pattern proves what many of us said at the time — investigate Obama’s background or be prepared for greater conspiracies (of the 18 USC 371 type, not theories) in the future. Ironic that it was Trump who gave them the final pass.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        Exactly.

        I believe the birth announcement was real. I followed that deal a great deal back then – it was really fishy, and I wanted facts I could hang my hat on. I never could figure out a picture of the first couple or few of O jr’s days on earth, but the trail picks up a few days after his birth. Back then, if you were born at home or in the back of a cab or whatever, your momma would go down to the county and file that you were born. IOW: there was a process for those not born in a hospital.

        This was very well known process. As Hawaii statehood was imminent, many came over to Hawaii from Asia in order to have their babies be American. If your kid was 2 years old, you could claim the kid had been in Hawaii all along. The obviously communist parents, there all along, would have known of this. Progressives have a penchant for exploiting government and rules. It is a matter of pride and principle to subvert the dominant paradigm any way you can.

        So, the grandparents, wanting the Kenyan to be an American – why ? – for the bennies – not out of national pride – made sure to get a BC filed, and plug the birth announcement in the local paper.

        Once anyone had the glimmer that O could be president, yes, a great range of funny things began happening. some law journal had a scholarly article on “natural born citizen” disappear, etc. etc. –At the time, I was working with a lawyer. I noted this funny detail to her, and she was kind of bothered – she was a fan of O, and could not have cared less to catch a whiff of funny business – peculiar things that make you go hmmm, and add up to a big picture.

        Exactly. Now, knowing this Russian woman got the visa magically, and shortly after happened to rub elbows with the Trump campaign so obviously, etc., etc., I can more securely consider this crazy story of Brennan and friends manufacturing a paper trail to make a Kenyan become a natural born citizen.

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        • swampratterrier says:

          Remember dozens of Obama’s Kenyan relatives – uncles aunties etc. old as his parents and grandparents – all absolutely SWEAR he was born in Kenya.

          CASE CLOSED ON THE ILLEGAL ALIEN PRESIDENT.

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      • Your comment reminds me of a scene in the original “Star Trek” series, “City On the Edge of Forever”, at the end, where Kirk has just stopped Dr. McCoy from saving the woman Kirk loves, for the sake of all history. McCoy demands, “Why did you stop me, Jim! I could have saved her!”, and Spock says, “He knows, Dr. — he knows.”

        We know, Tango. We know.

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      • Papoose says:

        We know he did…Passportgate in March 2008… and the subsequent inexplicable death of the Hawaii DHS Director Loretta Fuddy…. Lest we forget Lieutenant Quarrels and Stephanie Tubb Jones…. RIP Tim Russert, June 2008, the day American Journalism died and MSNBC turned on the American Public.

        All Roads lead back to the year 2008…the Eve of the Fundamental Transformation…

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      The truth has a way of bubbling to the surface.

      My point is, I don’t think anything reliably on Sessions will be reported until he is half forgotten. It also holds as a reasonable explanation that he simply got hoodwinked.

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      • Rosenstein officially recommended, with reasons, that President Trump fire Comey; then he turned around and immediately appointed a Special Counsel to persecute Trump. Anybody who was “hoodwinked” by that blatant treachery doesn’t have a “hood” to be “winked”. Sessions sold his soul to be part of the treachery for just a year and a half.

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      • Dahimm says:

        Truth is always available to those who are willing and open to search for it. Truth can be buried but never destroyed – it will always be uncovered, eventually. Thanks to all of you who are committed to keep digging.

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    • Sparky5253 says:

      I wonder if Sessions was a deep state plant in the Trump campaign. He was first on the Trump train and then when Trump won was insistent on being the AG.

      Plus, Sessions immediately recused himself from nearly all aspects of his job and put out the welcome mat for Rosenstein, Mueller and assorted Democrat swampers to launch a soft coup against Trump.

      Sessions definitely needs to be looked at.

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    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      One might think the black hats have a leg to stand on re national security and their ‘fears’ of Russians ‘running’ Trump as their asset.

      EXCEPT for that fact that we know with certitude that there was no national security reason to exonerate Hillary, and no legal reason either. And we know that the HRC exoneration was part and parcel with the the Trump persecution / prosecution.

      Therefore, we know Lisa Page and the other black hats are lying completely re the national security Russia much Russia bs craptitude.

      It’s important to keep that in the back of your mind as the muh Russia crap enters its final and funniest phase: the ‘hey it was always about national security and we had justifiable doubts and we have complete discretion once we invoke ‘national security’ and hey look over squirrel’ phase.

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      • MelH says:

        If and when Declassification happens, why would we think the world will believe US instead of the Brennan story. It’s the Brennan story pushed daily on social media. OUR story is “conspiracy theory,” designed to “discredit and stop the Mueller gig”, also rampant on Social media. Since WE are on the Trump Train, we are naturally tainted. So what would be the benefit of Declassification?

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    • mr.piddles says:

      “One has to believe it was Brennan and his filthy CIA rats that did it.”

      Just look at his mug. All you need to know.

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  4. jeans2nd says:

    Asking forgiveness in advance.
    Your conclusions are exactly correct. As always. imo

    But we are working from interpretations of sources we’ve not seen.
    NY Times is never trustworthy. A leaked transcript that was read to them? Was the leak over the phone? Why would the Times not know that others (NSA, etc) were listening? Did the author make mistakes in note-taking?
    Carlson’s (Epoch Times) conclusions have not been 100%. The other Epoch Times guy is unknown.

    Other questions remain – why leak to very-lesser-known sources? Why not leak to a larger source to obtain wider coverage?
    Why opt for smaller coverage to a much smaller proscribed circle of echo chambers?
    Catherine Herridge is an award-winning well-known source who is trusted by all. Why not leak to Catherine Herridge?
    A reasonable answer is that the leaker did not want to be fact-checked and/or verified that would be demanded by C Herridge. If so, the questions write themselves.
    Have the leaked docs been altered?
    There are more questions, but that is enough.

    Hopefully the error is mine.

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    • Zorro says:

      The leak goes to the Epoch which, as you say, a small audience. The MSM gets the info, spins it to a large audience. There are no real smoking guns in the article, so what is the purpose of the leak?

      Also if we don’t like leaks done by the enemy colluding with the MSM, why would we like this one? It’s almost a sign of desperation by someone that knows nothing is being done or will be done to bring justice.

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    • bessie2003 says:

      This is where the practice of questioning everything, from information leaked to why it was leaked, to whom it was leaked, etc., etc. – keep on questioning, as long as we can keep an open mind then all the blanks will get filled in; and

      then there will be no way the regular media can ignore it, because the whole story will be all over social media.

      The FBI/DOJ vs the CIA/NSA, it’s going to tear this nation apart when the average American gets a bigger whiff of just what these entities have been up to;

      so I get why the President is biding his time with unredacting things, yes, they could go after him with trumped-up collusion of investigation charged but in reality it’s healthier for the nation at large to be able to digest what really went down.

      It comes back to an original thought posed by Sundance at the beginning of this whole episode, is it better to strip the nation down to its foundation and rebuild from scratch, or save what still works and repair the damaged parts around that? That’s what I think the President is ruminating on when looking at that photo of him, where we see his back while he’s looking outside of the Oval Office window, is he weighing the best way on how to proceed in order to bring those to justice while also working to preserve, protect and defend the nation as a whole.

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      • pyromancer76 says:

        Imo, can’t rebuild from scratch. The foundations of a Constitutional Republic have been in place for some 230 years. But way too many nasty barnacles and slimy bloat around those foundations. Major repair needed – with the wildly applauding audience of the American people who are volunteering for any duties needed by our magnificent patriotic President Trump. Think of the appetite (with “tools”) and willingness to patrol the border.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      I suspect that there are established leak channels. A loose network. In the uniparty, assume someone has info to leak. Due to position as an aide on a committee, etc.

      Someone in power goes to the leaker – a staff member or other associate. That person knows that carrying out a leak really well is part of his or her job. The leaker has his or her avenues for leaking – not that many. This leaker-leakee relationship is covert but has to parallel the trust that you have in legit journalism. The relationship has to be solid, or someone is going down big time. The leakee has to be solid or the information avenue is cut off.

      Once you get the leak out, it is out. You look fo rit in the newspaper, and you can then give a heads-up to others who can then pick up the story and run with it. –Page Strzok texted each other about what was in the newspaper a day after they set up a leak, right?

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  5. Beigun says:

    From time immemorial, Intellegience has been the key to warfare. And yet, Intellegience Officers from time immemorial have been Restricted Line Officers, unauthorized to take command of combat forces. For example, Generals Hayden and Clapper would fall under the command on Ensign Pulver in a lifeboat at sea. There is a good reason for this ancient tradition—sedition.

    Now we see “Intellegience” can determine everything. The CIA and FBI can now override any candidate for Commander-in-Chief in determining foreign policy if they disagree.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      I agree. I was reading about Battle of Gallipoli a while back. If we knew how weak the opponent was toward the end – they were down to a few bullets practically – WWI would have been vastly different.

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  6. Kent says:

    If Trump would just do what he promised and declassify all of this this leaking bullshit could end. But it won’t because for some reason many people do not want the American people to have the full truth. Right now, that includes Donald Trump.

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    • Julia Adams says:

      Today’s headliners remind me of the Aretha Franklin song entitled, “Who’s zoomin who?”

      Although it’s true the Deep State does not want the truth to come out, these kind of leaks are always put out to take the pressure off the failing Democrats. Losing on border wall, losing on government shutdown, losing on RBG viability, losin* on the Nancy and Chuck speech, losing on Acosta at the wall report…so what do they do? Why they change course by changing the conversation. They do that by manufacturing a new narrative to occupy the news cycle

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  7. givingconniptions says:

    This has been dragged out to the point of Apathy.

    Just release it all and let the chips fall already.

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  8. paulmafinga says:

    Massive central governments generally decay and fall to ruin over time.

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  9. Michael Todaro says:

    We’re preaching to the choir here. Go throw a few bombs at Yahoo and Fox comment sections.
    Check out the hair on fire replies to your incendiary comments. The key is to be as extreme as possible without being banned. Great fun !

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  10. WSB says:

    Just saw this as the page was turning and had the same thought as Tom did.

    Except that criminally, this would be the norm, not Congress even:

    “Tom H says:
    January 11, 2019 at 11:58 pm

    It is absurd that Ole Nellie was able to avoid testifying based on a claim of spousal privilege. This is is a very narrow privilege which would be limited to testimony about her husband. Not her own activities working for the CIA and Fusion. The GOP is pathetic.”

    Isn’t this a criminal privilege? And why could she not tesify to the other 50% of the other work she did?

    And since both have very sketchy backgrounds, is it possible that these two were a cell and a married couple in farce only?

    A couple of other spies come to mind.

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  11. Zorro says:

    Brennan’s frantic tweets confirm that he is at the root of this criminal enterprise.

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    • King Arthur says:

      Is Brennan crafty enough to conjure this whole charade? Doubtful though he’s certainly a cog but it feels like a long running Clinton machine op to dirty whatevs Republican (minus Jeb!) they could. They’re smarter than the Obaman’s but Hill is just too nasty to be electable. In fact, they’re downright sinister. Look at the money laundering pay for play Clinton Foundation. Obama is a man-child compared to their op.

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      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        This is more than likely a Clinton job.

        The Clinton’s have put together an organization going back decades, including stolen FBI files to gain control over people, to hit teams, to take care of their enemies.

        Same with the Bushes.

        Brennan may have been involved, but this has Clinton / Bush fingerprints all over it.

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      • G. Alistar says:

        Perhaps there is no individual puppet master pulling all the strings rather a verifiable host of ideologues? Rather than a coherent plan, clever lawyerly types are just reacting to events over time the best they can? For example, Trump winning was a big turd in their punch bowl to the deep state. When POTUS went public about “Obama wiretapping” as a result of Admiral Rogers spilling the beans on FBI/DOJ corruption, there had to be a crack in the DS universe. Senate pawn Mr. Wolf leaked info, Horowitz leaks, Strozk/Page texts release, resultant FBI & DOJ firing purge of Obama era dirty cops; all a big series of smelly floaters. The recent Epoch Times leak about disingenuous Ms. Page’s testimony, yet more danger to the Obama’s dirty cops. Of course many, many reactions over time for DS actors…..Comey and Brennan testimony and tweeting comes to mind.

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        • TheLastDemocrat says:

          I agree. A loose hegemony or cabal of overlapping, intertwined interests. Lots of overlap between government and private business, including international. That is all. A loose “club” and you are not in it.

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        • antiqueiron says:

          The closest thing to a puppet master would be Brennan. He was one of two men that “discovered” and groomed & trained Obama. He was calling the shots during the Obama administration. Val Jar reported to him.

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      • Will Hunt says:

        It seems painfully apparent that this entire “operation” was developed on the fly as circumstances on the ground changed. Opportunistic, sloppy and awkward actions taken by people who had little fear of being caught.

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      • antiqueiron says:

        Brennan definitely is crafty enough,(he’s a much bigger player than most know) but this has more fingerprints on it than Stormy Daniels. This was & is a combined operation.

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  12. Latina says:

    Bongino was doing his Nunes translation and he said Nunes was leading on that more people were targeted. Like other Presidential candidates… I think. Ted Cruz? Rand Paul?

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    • Zorro says:

      It would be interesting if Jeb is excluded because of the Bush’s elite globalist status.

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    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      Me suspects Paul for sure. He seems to be PDJT biggest fan in Congress. Lot of face to face time on the course too says a solid relationship. Maybe they share that bond of being spied on by deep state.

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      • Latina says:

        And Paul , over the years, has been very vocal about the NSA spying on people. He is against mass surveillance. What does he know?
        He was clearly spied on, remember the talks about multiple dossiers? “Second set of books”? That floated around, I think, Nunes said that?
        Now Nunes is insinuating that others were spied on?

        This corruption goes deep. Once uncovered will revel how rotten our Gov has been and how victimized we the people and their opposition have been.

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    • Mongo Mere Pawn says:

      Remember that Obama managed to get elected to BOTH his Illinois State Senate seat and his US Senate seat by gettung third parties to unseal the divorce records of his opponents. The Clintons probably still have all of those FBI files they took from the White House when they first got elected. This is how the Democrats operate. Of course, they were accessing the NSA database for dirt on their political opponents, which would have not been limited to Trump. And the audit performed would have revealed it all: who was surveilled, when, etc. My guess is that the peeing prostitute story has its origination in some email between Russian intelligence operatives, but that they couldn’t reveal this because it would have revealed our capabilities to the Russians. So they laundered it through Steele and British intelligence. Admiral Rogers knows and likely told President elect Trump when he went to see him in Trump tower. Nunes knows. Hell, pretty much everybody knows, but all we’re ever going to get is leaks and innuendo because the political class in this country can’t let the plebes ever realise the level of corruption.

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    • Latina says:

      THIS IS THE HINT HE DROPPED:

      Devin Nunes

      Verified account

      @DevinNunes
      Jan 10

      Devin Nunes Retweeted Chuck Ross
      Important new information. Walls beginning to crumble around Russia gate…
      Devin Nunes added,
      Chuck Ross

      @ChuckRossDC
      NEW: Democracy Integrity Project, the non-profit linked to Fusion GPS, Chris Steele and Soros, worked on a 2018 mid-term project with New Knowledge, the tech firm implicated in the Alabama ‘false flag’ operation. https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/10/fusion-gps-russia-false-flag/ … via @dailycaller

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      • MelH says:

        If you click on the leak to the Daily Caller, you will not be able to get back to this spot. In fact, following ANY leak lately puts you back at the beginning of the article. The same is true of the list of Comments, which is too bad because i can’t always respond to a Commenter unless I can find what I said in the first place and what the topic was. Used to be clicking would take me right to the relevant spot.

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  13. Linus in W.PA. says:

    Rip the lid off this vile enterprise!!!!

    DECLASSIFY EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  14. Latina says:

    People don’t start doing this overnight. I AM infinite % sure that these people have A LOT TO HIDE GOING BACK DECADES. And that’s what they are protecting.
    You don’t just pull something like out of the blue. How do you trust all of these people to keep quiet about it? Would you? How would you organize an illegal scheme involving over 15 people? One person talks it’s over! Only organized crime pulls this off. Brennan, Clapper, Hillary… have been around decades. This is not their first rodeo.

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    • Latina says:

      And notice how RINO’s and Media are complicit and wanting nothing to do with fighting it. I don’t think it’s hate for Trump. They hated Bush, we Hated Obama, but this was never done to anyone else. Trump is an outsider, he wasn’t supposed to win, they are keeping the DOJ away from Trump, protecting decades of corruption from coming out.

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      • Craig D says:

        Response to Latina (January 12, 2019 at 12:55 am) – Maybe this whole crooked DOJ, Russiagate debacle is to (as Latina says), keep Trump away from (having control and access) to the DOJ and their whole history of corruption (mostly involving the Clinton’s, Bush’s and crooked DOJ officials and some politicians)! Sessions would not allow Trump access to the DOJ and would in fact weaponize the DOJ against Trump.

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      • antiqueiron says:

        I agree. That’s one reason why this cannot be fixed via the normal channels. Protecting decades of crimes means that they will stop at nothing to keep all that hidden. There is nothing off the table. Does anyone really believe they cannot or will not rig the 2020 election?! That is the least they will do.

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    • Latina says:

      Another point is that even if one person involved wanted to come clean, where would they run too? RINO’s? Media?
      RINO’s know even more than we do, yet… crickets.
      Nunes is doing that, He tried, but he is alone basically and a he is a nobody in the swamp circle. So, he is basically turning against his team by speaking up. If this there wasn’t systematic corruption it wound’t have gone anywhere. A few people would have walked away, or expose the crime knowing that there would be punishment.

      The lack of punishment shows this is just a routine game, it’s been done before and they are all in it.

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    • Will Hunt says:

      It seems beyond credulity that more leaks and “disclosures” have not occurred. It would seem at least reasonable that 100’s if not 1000’s of FBI/DOJ employees have some knowledge of government committed felonies yet nothing incontrovertible or actionable has leaked out over these many months.

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  15. emet says:

    If you see the way Muller operates, as accurately described by Sundance, and in particular his absorbing all incoming intelligence, leaks, accusations, admissions, etc. burying or nullifying the information harmful to Clinton/Obama/DOJ/FBI, and then filtering out all but that which is helpful to neutralizing President Trump, you will have a good idea of how the FBI/DOJ (and other agencies to a certain extent) have always operated. They filter out the substance harmful to their agency or the Whitehouse (exceptTrump), and pursue that which is helpful. They take minor crimes committed by stupid, unlucky, unpolitically-connected people, exaggerate their significance, get the media to fluff it up into the crime of the century, then use the full force of the Federal government to bobyslam their victims. Then everybody gives each other an award. Going after major criminals is risky, because they might be donors or supporters, or associates of the big club. Of course, sometimes another Federal agency may go after serious criminals, but if they are serious criminals with juice, count on the FBI yo take over the case and run it into oblivion. Another clever ploy that I’ve seen when an investigation is getting too close to those that must never be touched, is for the Whitehouse to leak details to the media, and then order the investigation to cease because it is blown. A few low-level guys go to jail. The people who escaped justice show their appreciation with a gererous donation, or a lucrative deal, etc.

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  16. quintrillion says:

    One of the most elaborate attempted entrapments deployed to cover-up massive government criminal fraud against citizens ever revealed… well, partially revealed.

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  17. Latina says:

    I hope we can expose the crooks like they did in Brazil , they have and still are uncovering over 3 decades of corruption from all political parties. This is the biggest criminal enterprise discovery in the history of the world.

    Operation Car Wash, one of the largest bribery cases ever investigated, is being led by a small group of idealistic, young Brazilian prosecutors and a crusading judge
    2017-“We already have charged more than 200 people for hundreds of crime”

    2019, it’s even worse, even murders to silence people are being investigated. It’s as bad as it gets, yet, one brave judge and some young prosecutors ALONE, lead the way to justice for a country of over 200 million.

    Why can’t we do that? It is possible. You can find the story in FOX, CNN, CBS, NYT it’s everywhere. Just search for Car Wash Operation Brazil or click on the link below.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brazil-operation-car-wash-involves-billions-in-bribes-scores-of-politicians/

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  18. taxpayer here says:

    Glad to see the players and their dossier are still in the news. Now. If only we had a legit AG who would act leading to convictions, this would be…..justice.

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  19. Latina says:

    You have a group people, Obama, Hillary, Lynch, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Page, a few spies, Australian Ambassador Downer, and many others, as high level as it gets, involved in a criminal activities against Trump, who is himself another high level person as candidate businessman or elected President, You would think that if the swamp rats thought this was a crime that they can get caught and go to jail, they wouldn’t have done it. Too many high level people, too much to lose if they had ANY doubt they would have to answer for it and face legal consequences.

    They knew they would get away with it no matter what. They control the legal system.

    So my conclusion is that this is routine to these people. They are used to breaking the law, this was not a “let’s risk it and see what happens” They’ve done it before, these people all trusted each other that they could keep quiet about it. And if it got out, their friends in charge would make it go away.
    Hillary can tell you all about making things go away. Same people, same system.

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  20. Latina says:

    We are dealing with deep corruption. Abuse of power that goes back decades. All players have been around and belong to the same group.
    Their worse nightmare is for somehow, some outsider take control of the DOJ and discover the dirty rotten corruption going on for decades. They will never allow Trump to have his loyal AG. It’s going to be their AG.

    These people have absolute power and too much to hide.

    They were all working together, breaking the law, to oust and elected POTUS. Think about that. It’s not just hate. It’s much more than that.

    It’s not just because of hate for Trump. They have to hide what goes on in Gov. RINOs will remain neutral to cooperate with their swamp masters.

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    • Craig D says:

      Reply to Latina (January 12, 2019 at 1:28 am) – And the deal with nominee AG William Barr is that “Barr will and is able to (because he is a trusted member of the swamp) deal to Trump’s satisfaction (expose that the Russiagate stuff is phony, and deal with some of the DOJ bad actors)”. However, Barr will prevent Trump access to the whole corrupt history of the DOJ and their alliances. Maybe this is the best deal Trump can get.

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    • antiqueiron says:

      Right Latina, so in order to beat them you must go around their roadblocks by not using the normal channels. They have systematically closed every door that might lead to discovery. So Trump must open his own doors, or simply kick the sob in by releasing ALL the info in a huge worldwide primetime broadcast & use the military to round them all up. Again, if anyone has a better idea I’m all ears. Playing the deep state’s games hasn’t worked for the past two years. If we have a deep state, we don’t have a country.

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  21. notunderwhelmed says:

    I know this sounds simplistic and naive, but there has to be a way for people with integrity in these agencies to counter this corruption. The American people need oversight due to the excessive corruption and maneuvering of entrenched “fixer” types like Mueller. He withholds evidence and leaks bs tidbits to fend off leaks of corruption and abuse of power within the FBI & DOJ. There has to be a forum for people to speak truth. This is so frustrating!

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    • Not- ain’t gonna happen.

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    • Latina says:

      I believe that all with knowledge, are in it. That’s why the massive coordinated attacks against Trump. If we even clean the house, we are going to find so much criminal activities that it’s going to change our History. What else they provided fake “dossier” or fake intelligence report to get what they wanted. Iraq war?

      Brennan and Clapper were being the fake WMD report, Clapper admitted it was a mistake. There were no WMD.

      This is what they hiding…. Decades of this criminal activities.

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  22. GB Bari says:

    The leaking of bits and peices serves no one when the Deep State can counter each release of bits and pieces with broadsides of fiction like todays NYT article. Sundance is correct. This is now a superficial battle of leak-supported opinions instead of full, verified facts,

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  23. Another Scott says:

    I hate to ask a sticky question but if Nellie Ohr was doing research using FISA queries and then supplied that research as material for the Steele Dossier doesn’t that actually lend credibility to some of the Steele Dossier? No I don’t believe the Russia Hoax or the Steele Dossier but I am wondering about the FISA query information Nellie Ohr obtained and how it was used as “research”.

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    • stephen fenlon says:

      No, she had access to the NSA Database. presumably that’s where the Cohen was in Prague faux pas came from. Besides, it’s the duty of the FBI to corroborate the material it presents to the FISA court.
      H/T D Bongino – the person most likely to have have signed of on any pretence of corroboration was – Dan Carlin, ( Mueller’s ex Chief of Staff)

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    • Former lurker says:

      Not exactly. I think Nellie used FISA searches to dig dirt in general and struck gold with Cohen and Manafort. They drew a blank on Trump but used some fill in the blanks salacious stories so they can go back and justify spying on team Trump and launder the boilerplate scandal stuff through Steele. The dossier is planted fake evidence, along with the Don Jr, Manafort, Russian lawyer lady meeting.

      I think the real poop in the punch is going to be when it becomes public that this was business as usual under the Obama admin, and they used it to make puppets of anybody who had skeletons in the closet. John Roberts, anyone? Jeff Sessions? Bernie Sanders?

      I don’t know why President Trump hasn’t declassified and exposed this villainy, besides because it might ignite a Yellow Jacket type revolt here and in Britain and Australia, and invalidate anything DOJ or FBI has had a hand in going back at least ten years.

      I think it’d be worth it, but that’s probably why I’m not a gazillionaire hero President and PDJT is.

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    • Jim S. says:

      I don’t think I’ve seen Sundance point this out before.

      Here’s how it works. If I need to set you up, I can’t just make up a story. I have to know the who, what, when, where, why and how of everything you did on the day I want to setup you up on. In addition, I have to know all of these facts about everyone else I want to set you up with. Once I know all of that information, then I can make up the narrative.

      Example, I would not only have to know that Carter Page was in Moscow to do a speech on a certain a day, but I’d need to know where the Russians I was stating he met were at that time as well. If it was later pointed out that one of them was out of town then the narrative is proven false. This is one reason the dossier is difficult to be proven false. There are certain details that CAN be proven correct (all 3 were in the the same city), but it’s difficult to prove a negative (a meeting that didn’t take place that was said to have been).

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  24. I’m not sure I would consider these transcripts “leaks” as such – they were cleared for release by the committees when Repubs had control, they decided to not release them at the request of the executive – the Page interview wasn’t in a classified setting either. It’s a weird process to hand them off to Epoch rather than just posting the entire transcript, it would seem to be a strategic move by the new Oversight Dep. Chair. (Jordan)

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  25. stephen fenlon says:

    Apparently, according to the leaked transcript, Page began talking about a visit to London sometime in ?December? and was promptly told to shut up by lawyers. I wonder why? Links back to MI6 and CIA collusion? Which possibly originate earlier than anyone wants to admit?

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  26. truthbomb says:

    Is whoever leaked this transcript to the Jeff @themarketswork also indirectly validating his view that Rosenstein is a white hat? Just asking.

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  27. LafnH20 says:

    Not a single leak about Obama.

    NOT ONE!!

    EVER!!

    🤔

    Round and Round and Round
    “WE” Go.
    Where it Stops…
    Nobody Knows!

    And It Ain’t Slowing Down….
    ….This Merry Go Round.

    – Kacey Musgraves

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  28. Jenevive says:

    If I am understanding this they are implying Brennan had something
    to do with this prior to the “official” start. But why are they outting
    Brennan..is that what they are doing?

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    • Craig D says:

      Reply to Jenevive (January 12, 2019 at 6:38 am) – Maybe Brennan will end up being the “fall guy” for all this Russiagate stuff. The swamp will give up Brennan (to Trump) and “there will be the peace” (too quote Barzini in the Godfather).

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  29. snellvillebob says:

    About the statement: “Glenn Simpson and his wife Mary Jacoby had extensive pre-existing research files on Paul Manafort and Russia dating back years.” How did they get this? I doubt they had FISA warrants for that.
    I would suggest that the Five Eyes became corrupt and was costing more than our intelligence agencies to willing to pay, and not just money since they are all spooks. So they created Fusion Centers and created over 15 companies like Fusion GPS, Boze Allen, and Crowdstrike to receive full access to the NSA database in return for rapid direct workarounds from FISA warrants. The data thus obtained could be used in a FISA warrant to legally reveal information about their suspects.
    These Fusion centers most likely also serve to distribute NSA data to wealthy people like the Clintons and Soros at a nice price. We do have evidence that Hillary did business with both Fusion GPS and Crowdstrike.

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    • chzheadproud67 says:

      Just look at the “owners” of some of these companies….definite “ties” to govt entities ( the establishment)….which they all turn into money streams for govt money directly into their coffers.

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  30. JPinBalt says:

    MSN Still spinning the known BS narrative quoting discounted and paid off people;
    F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia
    By ADAM GOLDMAN, MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and NICHOLAS FANDOS
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-opened-inquiry-into-whether-trump-was-secretly-working-on-behalf-of-russia/ar-BBS83LZ
    So sad people still reading this misleading propaganda after so may facts out completely discrediting Lisa Page, Christopher Steele, as sources for article. Is MSM on Perkins Coie/DNC/Hillary payroll too?
    What happened is bigger than Watergate with weaponized DOJ/FBI to take down candidate and still get opposite story “news.” How much can you keep on “press”ing a dead horse?
    • ᠌ ᠌ •

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  31. sDee says:

    This is sedition no doubt. Treason perhaps. The globalists failed – miserably. We are furious, but…… is immediate justice for the globalists’ henchmen a strategic battle that Donald Trump needs to wage now?

    Whose hands are on the controls of these spygate minions? What evil scheme keeps it all in play?

    Sundance has opened our minds to the depth of the corruption and coordination of Spygate across all branches and agencies of our government, including the Courts. But this is no Operation Carwash.

    To what end? What binds them together to take down the Republic and human liberty? What synchronizes their deeply covert actions/reactions, instantaneously, with governments, print, broadcast, entertainment and social media organizations worldwide?

    This machine has clearly been in place a very long time. Donald Trump, with massive support from patriotic freemen, became an existential threat that forced them to act hastily. They lost. He won. Our President beat their machine. They have been exposed and Spygate evidence grows.

    Maybe Spygate is leverage. Maybe it is insignificant in the war ahead. I cannot fathom – only learn as much as I can. One man stands against them. I stand with him.

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    • yy4u says:

      “This is sedition no doubt. Treason perhaps”
      It’s a coup and it’s only treason if it fails. So far it hasn’t. Nobody’s gone to jail. In fact, all the involved still have their taxpayer funded pensions (Dumbstrozk), jobs (Ohr) or just-as-good jobs with left wing law groups (Page et al). McCabe and Comey got fired, but Comey has made millions and has a new career lying about why he got fired and I’m sure McCabe is working for somebody.

      “The globalists failed – miserably.” Not sure that’s true. Look at the midterms. We were all excited about a Red Tsunami and the Blues kicked our butts. POTUS did what he could but in the end even WVA and Montana turned against him and voted back in Democrats. Those were THE two seats we should have won in a real red Tsunami — popular moderate Democrats who still toe the party line.

      “We are furious”. Like they care? They are replacing us. We have ONE politician we can count on. ONE. And he isn’t even a politician. He’s a businessman who stepped in to save our skins.

      “Whose hands are on the controls of these spygate minions? What evil scheme keeps it all in play?” The Deep State. Politicians were horrified that J. Edgar Hoover had the skinny on all their nefarious doings. Well the Deep State has the skinny on all the politicians’ nefarious doings. There is no other explanation for John Roberts other than the possibilities that a) he was a closet Democrat all along and/or b) the Globalist Bushes knew it and appointed him to be the monkey wrench in the Constitution.

      “Sundance has opened our minds to the depth of the corruption and coordination of Spygate across all branches and agencies of our government, including the Courts. But this is no Operation Carwash.” Not sure he did us any favor. It’s like knowing you have cancer after it has metastasized to brain, bone, lung, liver and kidney.

      “To what end? What binds them together to take down the Republic and human liberty?” The $64k question. A Republic is a problem. Rome also found it so. A Democracy is better for their goals because they can cobble together people who should not be voting in the first place — too young, too hysterical (most liberal women), too uninformed, too gullible, too emotional, not citizens, deceased… You never hear them say the word “Republic” do you? Nope. “Democracy!” They even want to get rid of the electoral college.

      “What synchronizes their deeply covert actions/reactions, instantaneously, with governments, print, broadcast, entertainment and social media organizations worldwide?”
      They think alike. They want the same things. In the early 20th century Communism was considered the ideology of “the future”. They believe the USSR just did it wrong, that America can do it right. Equality. Everyone has everything s/he needs; a chosen few intellectuals govern Utopia and keep it running smoothly.

      “This machine has clearly been in place a very long time.” Since Woodrow Wilson with a short eight year break of Ronald Reagan who was treated exactly like Donald Trump is treated including making fun of his “orange” hair and siccing a special counsel on them. Reagan even got shot 2 months into his presidency and had he died, Globalist George H. W. Bush (who screwed up most of what Reagan did in four short years) would have been president.

      “Donald Trump, with massive support from patriotic freemen, became an existential threat that forced them to act hastily.” That’s when their masks came off. They were stupid. The Republican hysteria against him (McCain, Romney, Flake, Cornyn, Ryan, etc., etc., etc.) showed many of us (most I hope) that we haven’t had a two party system since Ronald Reagan left office — that it’s all smoke and mirrors. In short, Democrats win whether they win elections or not because Republicans want the same things the Democrats do, just can’t say so openly.

      ” They lost. He won. Our President beat their machine. They have been exposed and Spygate evidence grows.” Exposed? To whom? People like Sundance who already knew the truth? Those in the Last Refuge? We are few and far between. The midterms showed us that. We can be defeated by legal (West Virginia and Montana) or illegal (California and nearly Florida and Georgia) means. They will have perfected their voter harvesting in 2020.

      “Maybe Spygate is leverage.” Against what? NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. The FISA judges were in on it or they don’t care. The SCOTUS (Roberts) is in on it or he doesn’t care. Ruth Ginsberg if not dead is surely incapacitated and yet “she” (her law clerks) are still writing opinions for the SCOTUS. Anything POTUS tries to do, the courts step in and stop him. He can’t even put the military on the border to thwart an OPEN INVASION.

      “Maybe it is insignificant in the war ahead. I cannot fathom – only learn as much as I can. One man stands against them. I stand with him.” This is the Million$ question. What can be done? Midterms busted my balloon big time.

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      • sDee says:

        “Midterms busted my balloon big time.”

        Why? It is working to Trump’s advantage. The GOPe is Uniparty and as a big an enemy of the Republic as the donkeys. The GOPe House was directly opposed to Trump. No different than a Democrat House, worse because Trump’s hands were tied in battling Ryan – they strung him out knowing he could not do to Ryan what he has done to Pelosi.

        The gloves are off.

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    • Will Hunt says:

      The big question – what is the end game here? Attacking Trump is a strategic move toward what end? The humbling of America…. why? China is clearly ascendant and will likely replace US economic preeminence in a few years.

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      • sDee says:

        China is the globalists’ grand design – a slave-labor based economy to replace America. A privileged professional classwas allowed – kept under control of the elite political class. They call it “State Capitalism”

        Problem is, it was built through exfiltration of wealth from the US and the forced surrender of intellectual property, engineering and manufacturing technology from Germany and the US. Secondary goal was to cripple US economy and middle class.

        As Sundance articulates here, the resultant economic model and China’s “ascendant ” are fragile and vulnerable. Trump is attacking the weaknesses and that is why all is aligned to remove him.

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      • Latina says:

        Trump must be hated, when this gets out, people would said it was justified. They needed to do whatever they could to save the world from Hitler Trump’s. It’s the goal.

        They are hiding mass abuse of power going back decades. This was not the first time. Notice how no one is in jail on their side, but the victims did go to jail.

        Schumer: “The Intel Community has 6 ways to Sunday to get you.”

        Sounds like common practice, and he is bragging about it. Basically saying, if Trump doesn’t back down we will unleash the might powerful Gov against him.

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    • antiqueiron says:

      sDee, I believe Trump made a decision that he would try to turn the country around economically first to bring his overall support up to mandate levels, & meanwhile try to win over enough of the deep state to be able to function. And by winning so big that the DS would have to get on board with him. He miscalculated in this regard because there is no winning over the DS. MAGA & DS cannot co-exist in this country. Trump has always won by winning over his opponents if possible. This time it didn’t work. Support from the GOP never materialized in any meaningful numbers. So it’s one man vs deep state \ swamp, whatever you want to call it. Now, they have him boxed in somewhat (they think) with the obstruction meme.

      Now were two years in & very little progress has been made in freeing the country from the DS clutches. The DoJ is closed to him, Congress is closed as well. SCOTUS is iffy at best, for the near term. In my view, we’re treading water. Trump is doing what he can, but that is only what the DS is allowing him to do. Only things that are easily reversible later. Like tax cuts, trade deals etc. He’ll get the wall too. The DS is now running out the clock to 2020. They will rig the election like it has never been rigged before. Trump surprised them last time, that won’t happen again. So, what to do about it? My ideas aren’t very popular here. People don’t think the deep state is the major issue or the primary objective. Many are living in & under the “old rules” where “call your congressman” or “get out the vote” were valid options. We are well past that now. It’s become obvious that the DS IS the main objective. Not walls, taxes or trade deals. Those and much more MAGA will be easily gained AFTER the DS is defeated. It will take force to beat the deep state. I’m not at all sure Trump is willing to go there. We’ll see. I’m standing with President Trump whatever he does, no matter what happens.

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  32. Bulldog84 says:

    OMG this all makes sense now. I hope Mueller is reading the transcript and realizing we all know what a complete hack he is.

    Is this leak of the Page transcript coincident with the indictment of Veselnitskaya? I know there are some who think she was indicted by Preet’s loyalists to keep her from talking more. However, is it also possible she was indicted by POTUS loyalists for trying to set up Don Jr.? The one thing I have realized about SDNY from reading about the Prevezon case and Veselnitskaya is what a political organ that district is. They essentially gave in to lobbying by Bill Browder to spend huge amounts of resources going after a financially minuscule forfeiture case.

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  33. Pristach says:

    Glenn Simpson needs to be “Cohened”
    By Barr/Whitaker.

    That coke head needs to be expunged.

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  34. G. Combs says:

    Zorro asks: ‘Besides totalitarian Demosociaism starting in earnest, would she go after Trump even after she won?”
    ….

    OF COURSE!!!

    The Upstart middle class HAD TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON to NEVER challenge their ‘betters’

    ” It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. HIS KIND must not rise again.” — David Plouffe June 13, 2016

    6/28/2016 It’s Time for the Elites to Rise Up Against the Ignorant Masses – Foreign Policy Mag.

    “According to a new study from Princeton University, American democracy no longer exists. Using data from over 1,800 policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page concluded that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of – or even against – the will of the majority of voters. America’s political system has transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where power is wielded by wealthy elites….”
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-america-became-an-oligarchy/5441250

    Pg. 24:
    Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.

    They know that America is not a place of which it can be said, as it used to be, that a man may choose his own calling and pursue it just as far as his abilities enable him to pursue it; because to-day, if he enters certain fields, there are organizations which will use means against him that will prevent his building up a business which they do not want to have built up; organizations that will see to it that the ground is cut from under him and the markets shut against him.

    excerpts from
    The New Freedom
    a book by Woodrow Wilson, 1961
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/New_World_Order/WWilson_NewFreedom.html

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    • Latina says:

      The only way to clean this up is to do what they did in Brazil. Get one high level official like Comey and send him to jail. THEN you offer him immunity and start talking. Send thousand to jail. Go after all of them, make them all talk. Expose massive corruption and the crime ring, then people will rise and get them out.

      Read Operation Car Wash in Brazil. It’s everywhere, Fox, CNN, NBC, NYT, Huff Post, The Guardian, BBC…. everywhere it was so huge!

      And the house cleaning is intensifying now with new the gov going after all communist in Brazil. Their crime ring has been dismantled and their crimes for the last 30+ years are being exposed.

      That’s how you clean the house.

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      I would simplify this problem of control by oligarchs, wherever they are perched. As an antidote to “Woodrow Wilson” (tyranny), Theodore Roosevelt knew the answer: no one should grow too big for their britches. If classical “liberalism” proposes “life, liberty, and the pursuit if happiness” for all,” then that “all” must have the means at their disposal from their hard, honest labor. to pursue their goals. No one should be able to claim for themselves or their corporation (the institution legally deemed “a person”; the owner given sole rights to profits.) All who labor have some claim to the prosperous outcome beyond a set wage at the beginning.

      TR saw the monopolies and oligopolies gobbling up, with their usual corruption, everything in their paths. Yeah, they also created some amazing economic developments and wealth, but they then turned their attention (and wealth) to stopping all other competitors. (Also creating “charities” – “Nonprofit Foundations” – out of their ill-gotten gains.)

      Unfortunately TR could not contain his rage at the oligarchic representatives and remain in the Republican Party, the party of national power. Had he done so, he and his followers could have slugged it out to meaningful reforms, including reform of the Grand Old Party itself. This story is one of the tragedies of American history in the 20th Century.

      President Trump has taken this history lesson to heart. He is battling the oligarchs while remaining in the Republican Party while beginning the transformation of the Party itself. I pray to God that most Americans will join him to this final goal.

      He is setting in place the conditions for us to redevelop our American vigor to do so: economics, jobs, taxes, trade, manufacturing, natural resources, fossil fuel abundance, reasonable foreign alliances, sovereign national boundaries, etc.

      To look at this list is almost unbelievable — except this is what Americans can do if given the opportunity. This is what we Conserve. Look at what he and his supporters have accomplished in a short two years. Wow, six more to come. As these successes continue, he will be able to turn to the legal and political pillars of our Constitutional Republic, scraping off barnacles and slime.

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  35. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    All of this seems to me to be an extreme amount, and I do mean “extreme amount”, of corrupt, dirty-handed planning and deceitful work on their part to undermine the President. To the nth degree. As I see it, they know that the President knows. And what he knows is far more than what we have been able to piece together, so far.
    There really is a Big Ugly. We just don’t know what it is or if it’ll ever see daylight.

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  36. Moultrie Flag says:

    Why was Jim, Peter, and Lisa in London?

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  37. Bogeyfree says:

    So why doesn’t PT take it in small sections?

    For example, order an audit of NSA database from Dec 2015 – April 2016 and expose to the American people:

    1) Name names, what people were spied upon during that 5 month period and what information was obtained.

    2) Name names, of the contractors who were given access to the database during this 5 month period.

    3) Who within the government gave permission to these contractors during the 5 month period?

    Expose just these answers and my guess is the American people will clearly see the deep states true intent to frame a Presidential candidate and then a sitting President.

    PT, start small as this initial step IMO could yield huge truths and benefit to the point that Americans demand we (you) dig deeper and expose more!

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  38. Charlotte Willson says:

    No justice no peace!

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  39. namberak says:

    ‘Page staunchly maintained that any briefings given to the White House were always about the “Russian active measures effort” …’ Right. And my unicorn that ran off when I was in third grade just came home.

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  40. Ausonius says:

    People keep wanting President Trump to order the bureaucrats to do this, release that, declassify Documents A-Z, etc. etc. etc.

    Do they not realize that the bureaucrats are practically all DEMS and residents of THE SWAMP? They will surely scrub and alter anything detrimental to their existence! Ordering the FBI/DOJ/CIA/NSA to release ANYTHING exposing the coup d’etat attempt is doomed to fail.

    Even if anything incriminating exists, (and it most probably does not: these people are not completely clueless, although their arrogance might make them careless now and then), do we really believe that an order from President Trump to release such things will really be followed?

    Thus will the President be shown to be a fool. One vague hope is that a bureaucrat in the know somewhere will find a conscience and testify – confess? – about what surely seems like a coup d’etat attempt.

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  41. Latina says:

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    1h1 hour ago
    More
    Lyin’ James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter S and his lover, agent Lisa Page, & more, all disgraced and/or fired and caught in the act. These are just some of the losers that tried to do a number on your President. Part of the Witch Hunt. Remember the “insurance policy?” This is it!

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  42. Latina says:

    HERE’S WHAT NUNES IS HINTING…. HE WANTS EVERYONE TO READ THE ARTICLE, HE IS TRYING TO TELL US SOMETHING.
    BOGINO SAID OTHERS WERE ALSO SPIED ON

    Devin Nunes

    Verified account

    @DevinNunes
    Jan 10
    More
    Devin Nunes Retweeted Chuck Ross
    Important new information. Walls beginning to crumble around Russia gate…
    Devin Nunes added,
    Chuck Ross

    @ChuckRossDC
    NEW: Democracy Integrity Project, the non-profit linked to Fusion GPS, Chris Steele and Soros, worked on a 2018 mid-term project with New Knowledge, the tech firm implicated in the Alabama ‘false flag’ operation. https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/10/fusion-gps-russia-false-flag/ … via @dailycaller

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    • Mr Spock says:

      There was a 300% increase in “unmaskings” by Obama admin during 2015-2016. Yeah…others were definitely spied on. Why this isn’t being pursued aggressively is a total mystery. I’m guessing they spied on all the GOP leaders in congress, SCOTUS justices, big names in conservative media (Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, etc.), and of course anybody close to DJT during his campaign.

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      • Latina says:

        If this get out, we will see decades of abuse of power and will change History. The criminal ring will be exposed and major events in the last decades will be viewed in a different light.
        They are hiding massive damaging info to the swamp.

        Trump was not supposed to win.

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    • Zorro says:

      “Democracy Integrity Project”

      Please don’t mention these words right after breakfast.

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  43. Also on topic, an excellent piece by Rick Moran over at the American Thinker.

    “So let me get this straight. Top level FBI employees with demonstrable anti-Trump bias and hatred opened an investigation to see if the president of the United States was a paid Russian agent? All because he fired an incompetent director whose own inspector general said, ‘Insubordinate’ Ex-FBI Director James Comey repeatedly violated policy and inaccurately described the legal situation surrounding Clinton’s emails”?

    Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/huh_fbi_investigated_the_president_for_being_a_russian_agent_after_comey_firing.html#ixzz5cPPQuY00

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/huh_fbi_investigated_the_president_for_being_a_russian_agent_after_comey_firing.html

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  44. Latina says:

    Somebody scared Trump into not declassifying it. They have reasons to keep it from coming out. I think it would be the end of the criminal ring using the powerful tools of Gov to have absolute power.
    It would show us, decades of abuse of power and corruption. It would expose, the Clintons, Obama, Bush, and past high level Gov scums. But most important of all, it would drag down the UK as well and who knows who else.

    Their attack on Trump is not normal, it’s not just hate, It’s unprecedented. It’s coordinated. Romney, Brennan, Clapper, Hillary refuses to go away as if she has a job to do, destroy Trump. Why?
    Ask yourself, why are all of these people hell bent on destroying one person? The most vile attacks we’ve ever seen.

    They are hiding how the gov operates. They do spy on people all the time. This was not the first time. I believe they have done much worse.

    Corruption is deep.

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  45. pnj01 says:

    Those dopes, Marco Rubio and his donor Paul Singer, were such easy patsies for Glenn Simpson and his soon-to-be client Team Hillary! The Dems would have kept riding that cover as long as they could–except Trump drubbed Rubio even in his home state in Mid-March 2016. Singer shortly thereafter withdrew his funding of Simpson, right about the time Simpson hireling Nellie Ohr was also losing access to the compromised FBI files so a new cover scheme had to be concocted. In the realm of plausible deniability, though, having Singer’s prior patronage, though, was a great cover for the next stage of the systematic violation of all Electronic Surveillance laws: Crossfire Hurricane. Now, there are a bunch of separate streams of “intelligence” but all of them start with Simpson and Team Hillary. they set up a number of different stream “sources” but all were covers for Sompson.

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  46. Deplorable Canuck says:

    How far gone is America I wonder? The fact that this whole spy-gate happened, and by all accounts seems to be ongoing, with absolutely no legal repercussions, arrests and/or mass protests on the part of the American public is simply astounding and indicative of just how tight a grip the deep state has on the nation. I said (to myself, and in a few posts here and there) on November 8 after Trump was elected that the left would trow everything they could to try and depose Trump before his term was out, and by all accounts they have and still are. I also thought at the time that the American electorate would be slowly and inevitably lulled into accepting his fate with out much of a push back. That too seems to be happening. The vast majority of people are too caught up in just trying to survive from day to day to mount much of an opposition to this deep state tyranny. But IMHO if Trump is removed from office by the means of this false narrative and/or related supposed accusations of obstruction, America as we know it, the land of the free, will be no more. Our democratic freedoms in the west now sit on a knife edge. Only a mass awareness of the soft coup taking place can possibly save America. Pray to God that it happens somehow and soon.

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  47. Latina says:

    Here’s a sign and proof that what they did to Trump is what they always do to everyone:

    1-Schummer said, The intel community has 6 days to Sunday to get you.(they do this all the time)
    2-Sharyl Attinson and James Rosen being spied on.
    3-Tea Party targeting…

    Just a few.

    It’s not about hating Trump, it’s about hiding abuse of power for decades. All are involved and it’s common practice. Notice how the are not afraid of going to jail. None of them and so far, no one has on their side, but victims did to justify their cover-up Russia hoax. The hate for Trump is to make sure when some of this get out it’s justified because “he is a monster.”

    The hate is being propped up by the media, hollywood, RINO’s and Democrats. It’s coordinated attacks. It’s OPERATION DESTROY TRUMP.

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  48. lawton says:

    Why would Steele use that false claim about Cohen being in Prague if he was getting backyp conformation of these things? Hard to believe he got the wrong Cohen there also. Though that whole dossier was pretty much a joke like a kid came up with it.

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    • Zorro says:

      Steele didn’t, “Cohen in Prague” is from Nellie Ohr.

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      • MelH says:

        Cohen’s Burner phone pings has him in Prague on the relevant dates, according to Anti-
        Trumpers who say they have inside scoop about the Mueller project. My Burner phone info is scant but i thought the whole purpose of a Burner phone was to be incognito.

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    • Jim S. says:

      I have read, can’t remember where, that the two Michael Cohen’s had the same birth year and month, but not the same day. Easy mistake to make.

      I’ve also read that the relevant Cohen was in California at that time with his son at some sort of event. This could all be confirmed by someone with access to the NSA database in mere minutes. Passports are electronically tracked nowadays, it would be known if the relevant Cohen was out of the country at that time. Airline databases would have confirmed whether he was in the EU or not. If Trump’s Cohen did the meeting, it would be KNOWN and leaked by the media long ago.

      There wouldn’t be any need to go by where Cohen’s phone was pinging unless it was confirmed that he was actually overseas. Again, something easy to prove.

      My guess is that it is not the relevant Cohen or it would have been confirmed beyond any doubt and howled from the moon endlessly long ago.

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  49. AmericaFirst says:

    Recently the narrative-pushers threw a fit because military members in Iraq brought their own personal MAGA caps to have President Trump sign, and that appeared to be partisanship in uniform.

    But for members of the Alphabet Agencies to simultaneously contract out, or contract out their spouse, as well as offer insider information access to them, in pursuit of a political goal, was just fine?

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  50. DMWT says:

    Sundance, Happy New Year!
    I seriously can’t care about this any more. With the variety of crimes that have accumulated and the intensity of the crimes and the length of time this has gone on unabated, I am done. There are 2 levels of legal system and we don’t fit into their system and we will never have justice. Remember when Q said after the beginning of the New Year, arrest would happen and martial law? Sure. I am waiting. Remember when Q said an Executive Order was signed in June/July 2018 to De-class the FISA? A half a yr later nothing. It has become a sad, losing reality.

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