Leaked Lisa Page Testimonial Transcripts on CIA Brennan Angle, Confirms Likelihood of Dossier Origination….

The leak wars have officially begun.  “Caveat emptor” (buyer beware) is the general warning to all interested followers of the story-lines.

In response to leaks of congressional testimony to The Epoch Times (Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe) damaging to the prior narratives of the DOJ and FBI; the opposing side of the political continuum begins leaking transcripts to the New York Times (James Baker) favorable to the DOJ and specifically FBI.  Damn these insufferable leakers, their agendas, and their weaponized political motives; all of them.

CTH suspected this bull sh*t was going to start as soon as we saw the first Lisa Page transcript leak.

As a result we are now reduced to reviewing information through the pre-filter of the media outlet delivering the analysis of the transcript; a process CTH hates with the passion of a thousand supernovas.

The New York Times leak-angle is to justify *why* the FBI contemplated opening an investigation on candidate, president-elect and president Trump . – SEE HERE –  That said, sticking with the Epoch Times leak-angle on Lisa Page testimony for a moment, there is an aspect to the CIA activity of John Brennan which confirms prior suspicions.

Here’s the part that pertains to earlier CTH research on the issue of Brennan, the CIA, and more importantly Fusion-GPS contract employee Nellie Ohr who we confirmed also worked for the CIA:

Epoch Times […]  Page staunchly maintained that any briefings given to the White House were always about the “Russian active measures effort” and were not in relation to “Crossfire Hurricane,” the FBI’s name for their counterintelligence investigation into the Trump-Russia allegations.

Brennan has admitted during congressional testimony that his intelligence helped establish the FBI counterintelligence investigation:

“I was aware of intelligence and information about contacts between Russian officials and U.S. persons that raised concerns in my mind about whether or not those individuals were cooperating with the Russians, either in a witting or unwitting fashion, and it served as the basis for the FBI investigation to determine whether such collusion [or] cooperation occurred.”

This admission is important, particularly since Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) had previously disclosed that no official intelligence was used to open the FBI’s investigation.

Brennan’s role was highlighted again during testimony, as one Representative questioning Page questioned her in relation to an Aug. 25, 2016, text message: “What are you doing after the CH brief?” CH almost certainly referred to “Crossfire Hurricane.”

Page was asked specifically about an event that occurred on the same day:

“It’s the same day that Director Brennan is briefing Harry Reid, is why I ask. And so what you’re saying is you were unaware that Director Brennan was briefing Harry Reid that same day?”

Page said she was unaware of Brennan’s briefing to Reid. She was then asked the following:

“You give a brief on August the 25th. Director Brennan is giving a brief. It’s not a Gang of Eight brief. It is a one-on-one, from what we can tell, a one-on-one briefing with Harry Reid at that point. And it becomes apparent, based on your text messages and based on Director Comey’s emails, that you all are aware that that conversation took place. Were you aware that Director Brennan had a briefing with Harry Reid and that you expected a letter from Harry Reid?”

Page noted that she remembered the letter sent by Reid, but seemed confused as to Brennan’s involvement and possible knowledge of the Steele dossier. Worth noting is that while some within the FBI likely had parts of the dossier in July, the Counterintelligence investigative team did not receive it until mid-September during a trip to Rome where they met personally with Steele.

The Representative, who was clearly aware of the disparity in timing, focused on precisely how Brennan might have been aware of the dossier in August:

Rep.: So what you’re saying is, is that you had no knowledge of these potential unverified memos prior to the middle part of September in your investigation?

Page: That is correct, sir.

Rep.: Okay. So on August 30th, you and Peter are going back and forth, and you go, “Here we go.”  If you’ll look at 9:44:50 on August the 30th, you go, “Here we go.” And it’s referencing “Harry Reid Cites Evidence of Russian Tampering in the U.S. Vote and Seeks FBI.” Now, what happens is, and what I guess gives me a little bit of concern is, if you drop down, that if you drop down to the same day, August 30th, 9:45, it says:  “The D”—which I assume means Director—”said at the a.m. brief that Reid had called him and told him that he would be sending the letter.”

Page: Okay.

Rep.: So you get a brief that says, well, we got the letter, but it’s almost like it’s a coordinated effort between Harry Reid and the FBI Director, because obviously, he’s briefing you.

After a bit of back and forth, Page responded, “I don’t know what Harry Reid was told or why or what the purpose of Brennan [was.]”

The Representative pressed on:

“Why would Director Brennan be aware of things that the FBI was not aware of at this particular point when it actually would potentially involve, according to Peter Strzok’s word on January 10th of 2017, an unverified salacious set of memos?”

And then the big reveal:

Rep.: We have documents that would suggest that in that briefing the dossier was mentioned to Harry Reid and then obviously we’re going to have to have conversations. Does that surprise you that Director Brennan would be aware [of the dossier]?

Page: Yes, sir.  Because with all due honesty, if Director Brennan—so we got that information from our source, right?  The FBI got this information from our source. If the CIA had another source of that information, I am neither aware of that nor did the CIA provide it to us if they did, because the first time we —

Rep.: We do know there are multiple sources.

Page: I do know that.  I do know that the information ultimately found its way lots of different places, certainly in October of 2016.  But if the CIA as early as August, in fact, had those same reports, I am not aware of—I’m not aware of that and nor do I believe they provided them to us, and that would be unusual.

Rep.: Were you aware that Christopher Steele had conversations or multiple conversations with Fusion GPS and others outside of just working special intel for you?

Page: As of August of 2016, I don’t know who Christopher Steele is. I don’t know that he’s an FBI source. I don’t know what he does. I have never heard of him in all of my life. So let me just sort of be clear. When the FBI first receives the reports that are known as the dossier from an FBI agent who is Christopher Steele’s handler in September of 2016 at that time, we do not know who—we don’t know why these reports have been generated.  We don’t know for what purpose.

A bit later in the discussion, the representative asked another question:

“So you don’t know whether it’s a coordinated effort to get you those documents or not at that point in September?

Page responds, “Coordinated by whom, sir?

Rep.: Anybody, other than a confidential human source saying, “Listen, I’ve got reason to be concerned and bring it to you.” It could be coordinated by the CIA. It could have been coordinated by Fusion GPS. You don’t know.

Page: At the time that we received the documentation, no. What we have is the preexisting relationship with the source and the reliability of his prior reporting.  (more)

The key issue here is one of timing.  Lisa Page states emphatically the FBI investigative unit first became aware of the Steele Dossier in mid-September 2016.   However, CIA Director John Brennan is demonstrably briefing Gang-of-Eight Senators (including Harry Reid) in August 2016 on the material in the dossier.

Page says: “If the CIA had another source of that information, I am neither aware of that nor did the CIA provide it to us if they did.”  This cuts to the heart of the dossier origination as our CTH research discovered it back in 2017.

Billionaire supporter of Marco Rubio, Paul Singer, originally contracted with Glenn Simpson (Fusion GPS) for opposition research on Trump in late-fall 2015.  Glenn Simpson and his wife Mary Jacoby had extensive pre-existing research files on Paul Manafort and Russia dating back years.

Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson then hires Nellie Ohr at the end of November 2015 to work on the Trump project.   Nellie Ohr works on that project throughout Dec ’15, Jan, Feb, March, April 2016.   The Fusion-GPS contract with Paul Singer was discontinued in March 2016; but Nellie Ohr continued working on it.  The reason why we put Nellie at the center of that graphic more than a year ago is because of her importance:

In April 2016, after Paul Singer cancelled the contract with Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson’s wife Mary Jacoby goes to the White House (April 19th, 2016).  Immediately thereafter Team Clinton picks up the research and start paying Glenn Simpson (Fusion-GPS) to continue developing it.  However, at the same time Clinton picked up the Trump project, Fusion contracts Christopher Steele to write his research dossier.

Mrs. Nellie Ohr was not only a Fusion GPS contracted employee, she was also part of the CIA’s Open Source Works, in Washington DC (link)  Both Mr. Bruce Ohr and Mrs Nellie Ohr worked on a collaborative CIA group project surrounding International Organized Crime. (pdf here) Page #30 Screen Shot Below

When you overlay the timeline with the demonstrable activity, it becomes transparently easy to see exactly what was taking place.

Here’s what has always seemed obvious:

♦ When Glenn Simpson hired Nellie Ohr (Nov ’15) he was hiring a CIA analyst and Russian expert.  Nellie Ohr had research access to the FBI/NSA database.  It is almost guaranteed Mrs. Ohr’s work in Dec, Jan, Feb, March was done by exploiting her “contractor” access to the database through FISA-702(16)(17) searches.

♦ It is not coincidental that the exact timeline when the NSA compliance officer noted an uptick in FISA-702(16)(17) database search abuses (November ’15 through April ’16) coincides perfectly with Nellie Ohr’s contract with Fusion GPS.  The FISA court report from Judge Rosemary Collyer speaks directly to this timeline:

(link)

♦ Glenn Simpson hired Ohr in November 2015,  Nellie took the material already assembled by Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby in years passed, and used her CIA access to the FISA database to prove it, and enhance it.   She eventually built out more evidence and expanded the research.   By mid April 2016 Nellie Ohr had amassed a bunch of illegally obtained information surrounding the Trump empire, and, additionally, had information on Manafort and Russia etc.

♦ When Team Clinton get involved in April 2016 (that team includes Brennan Inc.), they needed to weaponize all of Nellie Ohr’s research.  That’s where Chris Steele is brought in to receive the Nellie Ohr information, launder it into an intelligence product, where it became “the Steele Dossier”, and then inject it back into the intelligence community.  CIA Director Brennan always knew of the material before the FBI did, because Brennan was part of the construction team.

Christopher Steele is not the actual author of the material inside the ‘Steele Dossier’, but rather he was attempting to wash away evidence of FISA database abuse by finding alternate confirmation for the underlying material.  Once he could provide ¹plausible secondary origination for Ohr’s material, Steele sent it back to Fusion-GPS in chapters.

Nellie Ohr was, is, and will always be, the factual author of the material inside the Steele Dossier.  Notably Nellie Ohr refused to testify to the joint house committee citing spousal privilege as the excuse to avoid questioning.

Nellie Ohr, a CIA contract employee, is at the epicenter of the Steele Dossier; and as a result she is the person who created the basis for all of the FISA surveillance warrants that exploited the dossier for approval.

Of course CIA Director Brennan was briefing Harry Reid in August 2016 on the dossier material a month prior to the FBI unit receiving it…. Brennan helped create it.

¹”plausible” – the Cohen-in-Prague mistake within the Steele Dossier is evidence of Nellie Ohr mistakenly interpreting a database search query result for the wrong Michael Cohen.

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467 Responses to Leaked Lisa Page Testimonial Transcripts on CIA Brennan Angle, Confirms Likelihood of Dossier Origination….

  1. Latina says:

    Does anyone remember Maxine saying, when Obama was POTUS, he using mass surveillance to spy on his enemies??????

    Liked by 15 people

    • Hereward the Woke says:

      Boom! Tick-tock! The Walls are closing in! Again!

      Liked by 4 people

      • inspectorudy says:

        No, they aren’t. With the current scenario of a hostile House and an impotent Senate along with a neutered FBI there will be no “Closing in” on anybody. Part of this “Get Trump” insurance plan was to go after him with every two-bit lawsuit and accusation they could muster and now with the House in the act, along with the msm, there will be no one going after the Deep State.

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      • OverWatch says:

        Faith is hard to maintain in the face of bad odds. Imagine what it must have been like for a revolutionary soldier in winter camp not only worried about winning the war but just surviving the winter to make it to the next fighting season.

        Like

    • dd_sc says:

      You mean the database –

      Liked by 8 people

    • MGBSE says:

      YES…and…THEN. SHE. LOST…Thank you God…what was going to happen with Hillary was going to destroy our Constitution….horrible maxine also accidentally slipped that “they” were going to “nationalize” oil (gas, coal, timber etc) too…she meant to say regulate, but could not remember the word after her screw up!!!

      Many of these RATS accidentally tell the truth many times…which is why valJay still lives with the Puppet and Mooch and monitors those clowns 24/7…trying to prevent them from accidentally telling RAT secrets.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Issy says:

      Yes, she did indeed.

      Liked by 2 people

  2. Latina says:

    Flashback: Maxine Waters revealed Obama’s ‘secret database’ that had ‘everything on everyone’

    Waters’ odious remarks came during a 2013 interview with journalist Roland Martin as the pair were discussing the future of the Democratic Party post-Obama. The California liberal lauded Obama’s efforts at establishing a “database [that] will have information about everything on every individual.”

    THE ABUSE OF POWER IS NORMAL PRACTICE. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    TRUMP IS NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It’s time to stop calling the swamp. This is a criminal ring!

    Liked by 11 people

    • MGBSE says:

      President Trump is NOT part of the swamp…the swamp is trying to destroy him.

      Liked by 4 people

    • RLTW says:

      Exactly Latina. These people are criminal but moreover they are communists. Brennan and Comey have openly admitted that they are communists. Clapper, Mueller, Holder, Rice, Lynch, Jarrett, Obama and yes, Comey and Mueller’s best buddy and soon to be AG, Barr, have all been smart enough to not announce the fact that they are communists.

      When the Iron Curtain fell and we gained access to Soviet records we discovered that all of the allegations made by McCarthy were accurate. DOD, DOJ, DOS and our government in general had been thoroughly infiltrated by communists. Was there ever a purge of these communists? No. All of these communists remained in place and continued the agenda of destroying America from within.

      This was decades ago. The tolerant, generous, “turn the other cheek” American people ignored THE FACT that communist operatives had been infiltrating our government for decades and sleepily went about their business and did nothing. Fast forward to today:

      The communists have completely taken over our Federal Agencies. They are on the verge of taking over our Judiciary and are working diligently on taking control of State and local government entities (via Soros nonprofits, ACLU lawsuits, SPLC lawsuits ANTIFA, etc.). The American people are slowly awakening to this fact and have labelled this the “Deep State”.

      Christian values, American masculinity and normal American behavior in general are being criminalized right now. Simultaneously, sexual deviancy, victim mentality, communism and hate for America are being normalized by communist school teachers and college professors. We send our children to be indoctrinated every day. Then we go to work to earn money so that we can pay the taxes that subsidize our child’s brainwashing. Madness!

      A good AG could have cleaned this all up legally. With Trump’s nomination of Barr there is no hope. It’s looking more and more like we will be forced to resort to the Second Amendment option.

      Liked by 3 people

    • TJ says:

      Sounds like a Protection/Extortion Racket. Excellent work Sundance.

      Racketeering
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racket_(crime)

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  3. Latina says:

    Chuck Schumer: “The Intel Community has 6 ways to Sunday to get you.”

    Maxine: Waters came during a 2013 interview with journalist Roland Martin as the pair were discussing the future of the Democratic Party post-Obama. The California liberal lauded Obama’s efforts at establishing a “database [that] will have information about everything on every individual.”

    What they did to Trump they have been doing for years to others. They have absolute power, in a police state, there’s no political opposition.

    Liked by 13 people

    • jleonard14 says:

      …journalist Roland Martin? disgraced left wing political hack Roland Martin. Fixed it for you.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Zorro says:

      Call MadMax and Chucky the Schemer before a Senate committee to explain their statements.

      Liked by 3 people

    • antiqueiron says:

      Chuckie is right about that. That’s why I fully expected Trump to clean house at the CIA & others in January of 2017. Didn’t happen & now we see where we are.

      Liked by 2 people

    • NME666 says:

      Latina, yup, Johnson helped kill Kennedy. Bush 1 and Ford helped cover it up. When Nixon started to ask too many questions, he was set up forced out. Then Ford pardoned him so thing would not go to court and blow every one’s cover. Nixon was paranoid, for good reason. The Watergate break in crew were CIA operatives who were also involved in the Kennedy assassination. Hunt, one of the 3 tramps, and one on the water gate operator, has a U-tube with his confession on it. Recorded a couple of weeks before his death.

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  4. Elle says:

    “So you don’t know whether it’s a coordinated effort to get you THOSE documents or not AT THAT POINT in September?

    Page responds, “Coordinated by whom, sir? (DOES NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION)

    Rep.: Anybody, other than a confidential human source saying, “Listen, I’ve got reason to be concerned and bring it to you.” It could be coordinated by the CIA. It could have been coordinated by Fusion GPS. You don’t know.

    Page: AT THE TIME WE RECEIVED THE DOCUMENTATION, NO. What we have is the preexisting relationship with the source and the reliability of his prior reporting. (We’ve moved away from the point in Sept and now we are back to an unknown time when they received the documentation, so a non-answer).

    I’m confused as to what documentation is what. When did they title it the “Steele Dossier” versus unverified memos from Fusion GPS. When in “as of August 2016” was she unaware of who Steele was? August 1st? What about August 24th? Was she aware of him then.

    So much weasel wording in here that Page is not all that helpful.

    Liked by 6 people

    • Zorro says:

      Remember that despite Page’s stupid indiscretions with Swivel Head Strzok she was a cum laude law student and hired for a high level legal position. She is not going to be easily trapped.

      Liked by 4 people

    • nimrodman says:

      “So much weasel wording in here that Page is not all that helpful.”

      She’s helpful to Lisa Page
      And helpful to the anti-Trump coup

      Liked by 1 person

  5. Latina says:

    WAKE PEOPLE!!!!! THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP! They are hiding mass abuse of power!

    Maxine: Waters came during a 2013 interview with journalist Roland Martin as the pair were discussing the future of the Democratic Party post-Obama. The California liberal lauded Obama’s efforts at establishing a “database [that] will have information about everything on every individual.”

    Just five months after the Martin interview, Obama was exposed by NSA leaker Eric Snowden for operating a massive government surveillance program which targeted just about every American to ever use a cellular or communicate from the internet. The Washington Post described the program as a massive expansion of President George W. Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program.

    Speaking about Obama’s last term in office, Martin said that Democratic lawmakers “better get what you can while he’s there because, look come 2016, that’s it.”

    Liked by 5 people

    • GB Bari says:

      I am failry certain that all Treepers who have been following this (and how could ayone not be following this since Sundance has been making this a feature topic of the blog for about two years) are aware that the abuse of the FISA process, the abuse of electronic surveillance data (SIGINT) via unauthorized / illegal access using 702 (16)(17) queries of the NSA database, goes back earlier than the DJTrump Campaign.

      Some have suggested, and some have paraphrased FBI “insiders”, that the abuse goes back to beginning of the technology, but especially when the Patriot Act was first passed.

      The ramifications of the aggregate amount of SIGINT data abuse are unimaginable as to the potential impact on historical criminal cases that were prosecuted with convictions; the resulting sentences having already been served or still ongoing. It would completely upend the federal law enforcement system and expose the government to unimaginable liabilities.

      It is a Pandora’s Box that PDJT – who by now is surely aware of the extent and depth of those ramifications – certainly does not want to open on top of everything else he is trying to resolve.

      Liked by 2 people

      • brenrod says:

        “…unimaginable as to the potential impact on historical criminal cases that were prosecuted with convictions; the resulting sentences having already been served or still ongoing. It would completely upend the federal law enforcement system and expose the government to unimaginable liabilities.”

        This may be the main reason for all the current doj and fbi coverups… imagine every case reopened on all those crooked fbi and doj cases.

        Liked by 3 people

    • fractionalexponent says:

      Evilyn Farkas…

      Liked by 2 people

  6. Latina says:

    Lisa Page was in London as well! The UK is knee deep into this
    She started to take about it and her FBI attorney silenced her

    Liked by 7 people

  7. mr.piddles says:

    Follow up from my earlier comment. I’ve thought about this a bit, and I think I might understand where this is going. Sorry for the brain dump.

    TL;DR
    We need to reframe “Crossfire Hurricane”.

    The FNYT article is effectively claiming that:

    1.) The 2016 counterintelligence investigation into Trump-Russia collusion (i.e., “Crossfire Hurricane”) was really a **broader** counterintelligence operation into “Russian meddling”

    2.) In 2017 the FBI was concerned that Trump wanted to shut down #1 (the supposed “broader” investigation), so they thought it prudent to open a counterintelligence investigation into Trump HIMSELF in 2017.

    The problem with this narrative, is that it doesn’t account for the fact that #1 was a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump Campaign, not a “broader” investigation. It may have included “broader” concerns, but it was driven by fake intel from the Steele Dossier. They had FISA warrants against Trump campaign associates. They were two-hopping and three-hopping through emails and phone calls like a bunch o’ kids playing hopscotch on the sidewalk. I mean, duh… basic math here.

    So we know we have two counterintelligence investigations. Let me ask you: WHY would you need TWO counterintelligence investigations into the very same thing? If you already have #1, why do you need #2?

    The answer is that they are trying to reframe #1 into something it wasn’t. It WAS a counterintelligence investigation into Trump starting in 2016 — we already know that. They are trying to reframe “Crossfire Hurricane” as “Russian Meddling” in the general sense. Then they are saying Trump was intent on shutting down “Russian Meddling” (in general), and hence they needed a NEW counterintelligence investigation to investigate Trump specifically. It’s as if “Crossfire Hurricane” never existed…

    The telling bit is the FNYT article itself. Search for the word “steele”. You’ll have to skip down to Paragraph #16. That’s one-six. Oh, and just for kicks, search for “crossfire”. Hint: it ain’t there.

    Paragraph #16:
    “Other factors fueled the F.B.I.’s concerns, according to the people familiar with the inquiry. Christopher Steele, a former British spy who worked as an F.B.I. informant, had compiled memos in mid-2016 containing unsubstantiated claims that Russian officials tried to obtain influence over Mr. Trump by preparing to blackmail and bribe him.”

    So the Steele Dossier, which was a big part of “Crossfire Hurricane”, which itself was a counterintelligence investigation started in 2016 is now considered “other factors” and relegated to Paragraph #16. Most folks have already made up their mind around Paragraph #8… so whatevs. It’s like: oh yeah.. there was also some “random stuff” from some “British guy” in 2016 that made us want to open a counterintelligence investigation in 2017. Right.

    Here’s what I think they’re trying to do. Could be wrong, wouldn’t be surprised. They’re trying to dissociate “Trump-Russia Collusion Narrative” from:
    a.) The Phony Steele Dossier, and
    b.) the FISA abuse

    In other words: “Trump-Russia” didn’t really become a concern until 2017, and “Crossfire Hurricane” never really existed. So I guess the 2016 FISA warrants were just for fun. Hmph.

    Again: why in Hell would you need TWO counterintelligence investigations to answer ONE question? The answer, of course, is: you don’t.

    As it was, it sounds like there were THREE investigative tracks:
    a.) Russian Meddling — the broader investigation
    b.) “Crossfire Hurricane” — the 2016 counterintelligence investigation TARGETING the Trump Campaign
    c.) An additional counterintelligence investigation started in 2017

    “a” and “b” had effectively been conflated. Trump said “a+b” was a “phony witch hunt” and was hurting him politically. Comey said: “you’re not the target of ‘a+b'” — which was a lie, because at the time nobody necessarily new about “Crossfire Hurricane” itself, its origins, and its scope.

    Comey gets fired in 2017.

    The FBI then gets concerned that Comey’s firing (and some other stuff) might mean that Trump is “working on behalf of” Russia. As opposed to “colluding with” Russia, of course… which is similar… but different. Whatever. They open investigation “c” — this is the “new” counterintelligence investigation being reported on now. Mueller inherits “c” + “obstruction” in 2017.

    Important: folks have assumed that Mueller inherited “a+b” + “obstruction”. That would only make sense! See here:

    “The agents summarized their highly unusual interview and sent word to Washington on Aug. 2, 2016, two days after the investigation was opened. Their report helped provide the foundation for a case that, a year ago Thursday, became the special counsel investigation. But at the time, a small group of F.B.I. officials knew it by its code name: Crossfire Hurricane.”

    Simple enough? NOT SO FAST! According to the FNYT article, Mueller inherited “c” + “obstruction”. From the FNYT article linked in SD’s article:

    “The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, took over the [2017] inquiry into Mr. Trump when he was appointed, days after F.B.I. officials opened it. ”

    Now you officially have TWO active counterintelligence investigations. Those 2016 FISA warrants are still active into 2017. Plus chasing down Facebook Ad buys, which is super duper important, of course. And nobody is quite sure which of the two or three or however the hell many investigations Mueller inherited. And that’s by design.

    The NEW narrative saying that the REAL Trump-Russia investigation was “c” allows them to say “b” wasn’t really about Trump… which, of course, is nonsense. “b” was always about Trump.

    In summary: “c” is the “by the book” piece… with the objective being to hide “b”. Mueller was the vehicle.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Clarification: “According to the FNYT article, Mueller inherited “c” + “obstruction”.”

      That’s according to the latest FNYT article, linked to in SD’s post — this is about the 2017 investigation. The FNYT article that I linked to was from May 2018 concerning Crossfire Hurricane from 2016.

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    • Latina says:

      Dan Bongino said, that counter intelligence operations don’t have 302’s.
      302’s are for criminal investigation after they have a credible lead to investigate the crime.
      You find out someone is selling drugs, then you file a 302 to investigate the drug selling.

      They have 302’s on the Russia hoax, that’s why Nunes wants the 302 declassified.

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      • CNN_sucks says:

        Deep State cannot declassified a 302s that does not exists, because they are surveilling without cause. FBI and DOJ has evolve to an arm of the demoncraps party. Bush was an ignorant fool after 911 to pass the patriot act. It tremendously benefit demoncraps who wants to punish all that opposed them. Not everyone of us will be in gulag but punish enough that opposition will be a minority for good. One world, One order and One party.

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    • Latina says:

      Bongino also said if this WAS a counter intelligence operation then IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE GONE THROUGH OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CHANNELS, meaning Intelligence officers, so they could verified the information using REAL intelligence and cooperation with foreign intelligence agencies to find proof of something. Official channels are there so they don’t investigate ALL useless tips they get, they look into it, if there’s nothing there, then they throw it away and don’t waste their time.

      The Russia Hoax was done by *FORMER* UK intel officers and spies. It was passed on from FORMER intel to State Dept Bureaucrats. It was handled by political appointees and elected official like McCain, Reid, Ryan…

      It was 100% political and not NATIONAL SECURITY.

      THIS WAS A POLITICAL HIT JOB.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Mr. Piddles you’re prolly right.

      Also, remember the “gold” Trump found in the WH walls??

      Dollars to donuts they’re trying to get ahead of the revelation that the IC WAS “wiretapping” the President.

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    • Concernedcitizen says:

      Mr. Piddles, your brain is dumping some good analysis. I might add that the impetus for the appointment of Special Counsel were the leaked Comey memos in which Comey implies that President Trump attempted to obstruct the Russian investigation.

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    • 007 says:

      Very good analysis, quite incisive, although I have to scratch my head at the overall subjects being debated. It’s as if there was an extra, extra long scene towards the very end of the movie Idiocracy:

      Sir, there’s absolutely no way to be sure, but we’re starting to – I’d give the odds as 50.2% to 49.8% – that Average Man might actually be right as to water being what we need to feed the plants in order to make them grow, rather than Brawndo, which has electrolytes, which is widely understood by the whole U.S. IC community to be the thing that plants, have and will always, crave.

      Nonsense Watson. Director Brennan, Secretary Clinton, and the whole British IC community have certified in their agricultural report that plants crave electrolytes.

      SIr, the plants haven’t been growing at all. I think it may be time we experimented with this new hypothesis.

      Watson, our best minds have informed us that the plants are getting everything they need. The temperature is just too off for the plants to grow. Global Warming has raised the temperature too high by 0.2 degrees and that is the problem we need to focus on. Here’s sit down. Take a look at this report from MI6. They claim that by slightly changing the Brawndo formula – adding a temperature enhancer – they may be able to deliver both the electrolytes that plants crave as well as reduce the surrounding soil temperature by 0.2 degrees. I think that just might work Watson. We can’t risk our whole crops this season – we need to identify a parcel of cropland ASAP that might be the most responsive to this new temperature enhanced Brawndo, which has the electrolytes plants crave as well as the best solution to this temperature problem. I want a report ASAP about whether our new underground cave crop field is ready for planting. The British may be right that combining this new formula of Brawndo with the sunless conditions underground may be just the thing we need to get our crop production back into full gear.

      Sir, with all due respect, don’t you think it would be wiser to use our test parcel to feed the plants water as Average Man has suggested?

      I already told you Watson – we can’t spare the resources.

      Ok Sir, please stay with me here for a second. What I’m essentially suggesting is that the British may be using this suggestion of the temperature enhanced Brawndo as just a side issue under the larger umbrella issue of Brawndo being what plants crave. I think that is definitely the point we need to focus on here. I mean, the British don’t use Brawndo to feed their plants and their plants have no problems growing do they?

      Watson, everyone knows the temperature and magnetic conditions are different in Britain which is why they don’t use Brawndo there but a variant with a special formula adapted specifically to that climate.

      Somtimes it’s like watching a 2-celled organism with 1 neuron try to calculate the most digits of PI within 1 nanosecond.

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  8. thedoc00 says:

    The is one detail missing from SD description of the time line. SD himself had provided commentary on this event and I suggest it belongs in this summary as it directly links Obama to the actions of the FBI and CIA. That event was Devin Nunes reading an older Obama Presidential Daily Brief, which prompted his going to President Trump with the information discovered.

    There are products that describe the cabal:
    1. FISA Warrants
    2. All the e-mails
    3. Contradictory testimony before congressional committees
    4. All the documents and discussion surrounding the Steel/Fusion GPS Dossier
    Now:
    5. The Obama Presidential Daily Briefs, which seem to have dropped off the Radar Screen

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    • thedoc00 says:

      The damaging element of the Obama PDB’s is a combination of the content and the large unprecedented distribution list that included political operatives, whom were granted security clearances under the Obama administration.

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  9. OldParatrooper says:

    Certainly a plausible explanation for how the Steele Dossier came to be. And now Nellie Ohr becomes a key witness in her own right, not just as the spouse of Bruce.

    And of course the Dems who now lead the HPSCI wont be the least interested in following this lead. Perhaps the SSCI will, but doubtful.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Do not count out the Republican members of the HPSCI asking questions. This is going to be the real test of “loyalty” for those Republicans. They can mimic the actions of their democrat counterparts when they were the minority. Being the minority party does not remove ones voice nor ability to ask the right questions. Unlike their democrat counterparts who asked the dumbest questions and launched deflected lines of attack, well stated questions can force the democrats into the defensive actions during their own committee hearings.

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  10. Latina says:

    THE Dossier????? Nunes said he found “2 sets of books”
    I think many dossiersssss.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Those books were Obama Presidential Daily Briefs that somehow had not been destroyed or removed from the White House skiff. Just wondering what prompted Nunes to look at those documents, may have been all the unmasking accusations being tossed about??

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  11. Daniel Wright says:

    I have the answer to getting Nellie Ohr to testify. Her excuse for refusal was spousal privilege. Subpoena her again stipulating that no questions mentioning her husband will be asked. If she refuses again,hold her in contempt of congress. Oh yeah,the house is now in Dem. hands. Thanks Republicans;now they will all get away with it. Nice going.

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  12. recoverydotgod says:

    It was a guarantee that President Trump would have to respond to the New York Times leak article narrative. That is the only option he has to fight the power of narrative. So much for the Epoch times article which has no narrative by presenting way too much detail (without simply releasing the transcript) to process in a non-digestible and natural way.

    Thanks, Sundance, for drawing the picture so clearly around Nellie Ohr and John Brennan. These truly are two central figures in the Trump-Russian collusion made-up-story.

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    • Mr Spock says:

      If true this should put to rest the “Trump knows it all” nonsense. He obviously doesn’t. Question remains what is he going to do about this coup, the coverup, the illegal spying on so many Americans? So far nothing except meaningless Tweets.

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  13. thedoc00 says:

    This is the ultimate in circular logic. Investigate the President, who has already been under “secrete” investigation illegally for 2 years, for firing the guy heading the FBI whom started the illegal investigation, called for by the same FBI employees conducting the illegal investigation.

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  14. Latina says:

    No one in their right mind would think a Russian asset would go as far as being a party nominee. Much less becoming President and Governing the USA “while” under investigation.

    If our Intelligence is that stupid that it would take years to find out who the President is, then we have serious problems!

    Our intel wouldn’t allow anyone with even small suspect ties to Russia’s Gov to become a party nominee much less POTUS.

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    • GB Bari says:

      “Our intel” allowed (heck, they promoted) a Muslim Alinsky-Marxist “asset” to be elected President and serve two consecutive terms. I don’t have much trust or faith in “our intel”.

      But PDJTrump is an open book. He lived a very flashy, public life for decades, which was well-documented in the celebrity features and tabloid media. So any accusations of him engaging in clandestine anti-American activites is quite laughable.

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  15. Latina says:

    Sundance, don’t ALL candidates have to have security clearance before running for POTUS?

    Could a terrorist run only be investigated after he wins? Could someone involved with ISIS run? Would it really take years of investigate to find his ties with ISIS?

    If an American citizen had ties to hostile Governments wouldn’t that person be in the Intelligence radar, specially a high level business man?

    So, to believe Trump showed up as a Russian asset, to run for POTUS thinking he would get away with hiding something this big, isn’t that absurd?

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    • lawton says:

      The POTUS doesn’t require a security clearance. The only law is you have to be 35 years old I think. You can be a convicted felon also.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      It is all a matter timing in the election process and classification information being released to candidates.
      The only “investigation” that formally occurs, before candidates move forward is done by the IRS and FBI. No release of tax returns are required by law but tax history check is done, plus a criminal background check with respect to felony crimes.
      Security checks come later when candidates and “elected” candidates agree to view classified briefs.
      Based on our discussions here on CTH and past actions of the Obama administration we know as fact:
      The Obama IRS had to give President Trump a clean bill of health but due to HIPPA could not release any tax data. A quirk of some twisted legal logic makes those violations worse than most other crimes including murder, which precluded that data being leaked.

      The Obama DoJ and INTEL communities gave Candidate and President Elect Trump the highest level of clearance to view INTEL briefs. Again, background information gained was not released due to HIPPA.

      The fact the democrats did not go the route of invoking Congressional “right” to review data on a citizen says there is more to the law as well as to the precedent that will be set making this threat an empty one. As soon as the Democrat House starts leaking President Trump’s private data, the Senate can do the same for any number of Democrats.

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    • GB Bari says:

      In answer to your last question: yes.

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  16. qzy says:

    Does Nellie Ohr look anti-Russian, or pro-russian?

    Because to me, she looks like a typical PRO-communist college professor. I could be wrong. But, since she is supposedly an expert on Russia, who was hired by the F.B.I., there should be a paper trail.

    What articles did she write that were negative towards Russia? I tried searching google, but I haven’s found ANY articles she wrote.

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  17. Mr Spock says:

    Obviously the Russians have been grooming Donald Trump to become President since he was in high school. Khrushchev started it. Every Trump building around the world has small statues of Marx and Lenin in their cornerstones. Trump pays for all his properties in Russian rubles. Classical music by Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, and Rachmaninoff is all that’s played in Trump hotel lobbies. Russian is the only salad dressing available in Trump hotel restaurants. And now in the ultimate example of being a Russian plant in the White House President Trump is working hard to Make America Great Again. Yet, despite all these obvious clues the FBI didn’t figure out Trump was a Russian stooge until after he fired James Comey.

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  18. Haruspex says:

    Somethings don’t make sense: 1) Manafort started w/ Trump campaign in March 2016. Ohr was already a good 4-5 months into the databases. Was Manafort intentionally sold to Trump? 2) I’ve read the dossier. It claims Jill Stein was being groomed by Putin, that Carter Page was going to get 20% of Rosneft, that Trump turned down directly from Putin lucrative real estate deals because he wanted hookers. To me, this all too far fetched. 30%+ is dedicated to Cohen and his Prague trip. It’s poor writing by Nellie Ohr. This is the best they could narrate along with the peeing? It doesn’t make sense. and 3) I know Nellie Ohr got a ham radio license the month after Rogers tossed her out of the databases, but why?

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    • GB Bari says:

      Answers:
      1)Yes.

      2)Yes – the authors figured the salaciousness of the claims that was difficult if not impossible to disprove and thus would generate enough suspicion to sway public and congressional opinion sufficient to force Trump to drop out / resign.

      3)Nefarious Nellie needed a way to communicate covertly and wanted to avoid the telecommunications (landline and cellphone) capturing capability by NSA. I believe her FCC license category indicated she was using short range local comms (possibly 2 meter).

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    • Deb says:

      1). Some past articles had said that Manafort was suggested to PDJT by Tom Barrack, a long time friend of PDJT. Barrack even spoke about PDJT at the RNC convention. Barrack later stabbed PDJT in the back by bashing him in Wapo:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hes-better-than-this-says-thomas-barrack-trumps-loyal-whisperer/2017/10/10/067fc776-a215-11e7-8cfe-d5b912fabc99_story.html

      Barrack was labeled the “Trump whisperer.” Apparently the elites thought they could manipulate PDJT, use him as a puppet. When he didn’t go along with it and kicked them to the curb, they decided to use the special counsel to control him.

      2). The dossier is sloppy. It was a political smear job, not meant to hold up under scrutiny. They just needed an excuse to justify their spying and some salacious details to smear PDJT.

      3). The ham radio license has often been regarded here as a way for the conspirators to communicate without detection. Everything else is collected by the NSA.

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  19. Latina says:

    Sounds to me, that the Russia Hoax, is just standard operation for the crooks. NOT ONE crook is in jail. They are too comfortable doing this. Hillary was exonerated even though she did commit crimes and it was all just brushed off, like… well, she is Hillary. And she was running for POTUS!!!!!!
    Comey and Obama were using private email for official use as well.

    Think about that! Hillary committed crimes and was still VERY respected. What does that say?

    Imagine a CEO of a major corporation caught breaking the law? Imagine him getting a pass? He would be forced out while under investigation. Career over!

    All of this corruption is common practice and she is not the only one.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Common practice = deep, thorough corruption. Yes.

      IMO, from what I have collectively read, the FBI and CIA are world class masters at setting people up to be framed and accused of crimes they actually may not have committed. In many cases this is because the LEA’s could not successfully convict their targets of crimes those people actually DID commit.

      Also the Deep State illegally collects sensitive information and data on every politician, candidate, or anyone who has power or influence in government. I wouldnt be surprised to learn that the sensitive personal information in storage (and accessible via 702 queries) covers millions of prominent and not-prominent Americans and foreigners.

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  20. Fools Gold says:

    Thanks for highlighting the jest of Jeff’s well written article. I sure would like to see someone leak the unredacted page FISA, 702’s 302’s and all pertinent info provided to FISA judge…

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    • concerned3 says:

      I would just like to see the complete un-redacted sign-off list on these FISA documents. I am convinced that we would all be surprised by the results. Add to this, the Obama PDB’s referencing these same FISA documents.

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  21. Cheesehead2016 says:

    When will we get to see the emails that were on the Weiner laptop???

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  22. concerned3 says:

    I still believe that the use of a fictitious FISA document provided cover for far earlier spying by Five-Eyes. Targeted at the Trump campaign.

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  23. NJ Transplant says:

    They used this “investigation” to justify continuing surveillance on PDJT. Why are Rosenstein and Wray still working? Rosenstein should be fired immediately. Now we know why Rosenstein signed the last FISA warrant.

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    • concerned3 says:

      They used the investigation to continue to cover for those actually doing the surveillance on PDJT. Remember Rosenstein and Mueller reportedly moved to prevent President Trump from declassifying documents. And, so did most of the Gang-Of-Eight from 2016. So, I submit that this was all about protecting the involvement of Five-Eyes, in the surveillance of President Trump. This should not be taken to mean that others were/are not being protected too.

      I think the CIA and MI6 were involved from the start as a functionary of the Gang-Of-Eight.

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  24. Latina says:

    SWAMP CRIMINAL RING CAUGH IN ACTION:

    Fwd: POTUS on HRC emails
    From:cheryl.mills@gmail.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2015–03–07 21:41 Subject: Fwd: POTUS on HRC emails
    we need to clean this up — he has emails from her — they do not say state.gov
    — — — — — Forwarded message — — — —
    Begin forwarded message: *From:* Josh Schwerin *Date:* March 7, 2015 at 6:33:44 PM EST *To:* Jennifer Palmieri , Kristina Schake , Nick Merrill , Jesse Ferguson *Subject:* *POTUS on HRC emails*

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  25. Latina says:

    SWAMP CRIMINAL RING EXPOSED BY WIKILEAKS

    October 20, 2016: Podesta E-mails Release 13 Confirms President Obama Knew Of Clinton’s Private E-mail Server
    On Mar 8, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Jennifer Palmieri <jennifer.m.palmieri@gmail.com> wrote:
    They know POTUS and HRC emailed. Josh has been asked about that. Standard practice is not to confirm anything about his email, so his answer to press was that he would not comment/confirm. I recollect that Josh was also asked if POTUS ever noticed her personal email account and he said something like POTUS likely had better things to do than focus on his Cabinet’s email addresses.
    On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:40 AM, Philippe Reines <pir@hrcoffice.com> wrote:
    I find it odd the NYT didn’t actually quote the President saying what’s in their headline. Especially since the story has a disbelieving tone to his not noticing. One of us should connect with the WH just so they know that the email will show his statement to not make sense. I’m happy to do so to Josh Earnest since Jen is in a weird position, unless Cheryl or John you want to (or already have) with someone else. But it’s not unreasonable to assume that Josh is going to get asked how this was possible, and he should have the factset. Especially if it’s some weird technical thing with the President’s email setup that he doesn’t see addresses. — https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/21779
    To make matters even worse for the cover up, in another leaked e-mail, Erika Rottenberg, another Clinton attorney, admits Hillary Clinton personally deleted many of the e-mails herself without oversight.
    I know when I talk to my friends who are attorneys we are all struggling with what happened to the emails and aren’t satisfied with answers to date. While we all know of the occasional use of personal email addresses for business, none of my friends circle can understand how it was viewed as ok/secure/appropriate to use a private server for secure documents AND why further Hillary took it upon herself to review them and delete documents without providing anyone outside her circle a chance to weigh in. It smacks of acting above the law and it smacks of the type of thing I’ve either gotten discovery sanctions for, fired people for, etc. — https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4099
    The reason FBI Director Comey did not press charges against Hillary Clinton was due to a lack of intent. He made the argument that Hillary Clinton was not subverting the law for any malicious intent, and therefore did not commit a provable crime.

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    • chipin8511 says:

      She never thought that she would lose. What folks don’t know is how many people who support Trump who did not vote in 2016 will now in 2020.

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        I read an article yesterday, the interview with Trumps’ edgy 2020 campaign manager, the bearded Brad Parscale.

        He says a strong database list is 4-5 Million people. I believe he said President Trump already has 40-50 Million.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Ms. Latina, and my understanding is that “intent” is not a part of the law / consideration!

      Deleting Evidence

      I aided in preparing for a small civil case, and I discovered the plaintiff (our friend / client) had a few stupid, questionable photos up on his personal Facebook account. This was on personal time, on a business trip.

      His lawyer instructed: make multiple copies on CD ROM of the pictures, in case opposing party raises the issue (can’t destroy evidence); and then remove the online pictures. And this was really nothing.

      Deleting thousands of Federal Govt emails for the SOS??? Having a server in her basement??

      Flaberghasting.

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    • SJM says:

      18 USC Section 793 (f):

      Prohibits the mishandling of classified material through one’s GROSS NEGLIGENCE.
      This subsection DOES NOT REQUIRE SPECIFIC INTENT to harm National Security, and even WITHOUT INTENT, IT IS A SERIOUS CRIME.

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  26. RobInPA says:

    I’ll bet that Mickey Mouse is really pissed off over all
    of this!!

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  27. Latina says:

    We are dealing with a criminal ring, Organized crime. They will not turn themselves in. They will not help us find the truth and there’s zero pressure on them to come clean. They are being praised as the good guys.

    Unless a brave soul with info comes forward and we start a REAL investigation using an outsider, not one of their partners in crime, until then nothing will happen.

    They can make anything go away with their propaganda arm called MSM and by destroying evidence.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Yes. And Barr is 20 year friends with Mueller???

      Did Joe DiGenova know this when he praised the selection of Barr as AG?

      And where’s Whitaker?

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  28. Perot Conservative says:

    I googled Paul Singer – vulture capitalist. Up popped a photo with … Mittens (aka Sybil) Romney.

    So we may have a White Hat leaking information?

    And Johnathan Turley wrote a piece for The Hill today trying to spin this all as a giant misunderstanding on both sides. Ugh.

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  29. youme says:

    “We didn’t know that there was a counterintelligence investigation—”

    Adam Goldman, New York Times Reporter: January 12, 2018

    “How the Times Reported the F.B.I. Counterintelligence Investigation Into PresidentTrump: An Interview with the Journalist Adam Goldman

    To discuss the Times piece, I spoke by phone with Adam Goldman, who reported the story along with Michael S. Schmidt and Nicholas Fandos.
    During the course of our conversation, which has been edited and condensed for clarity, we discussed why the F.B.I. felt it had to take such an extreme step, the atmosphere in the Bureau after the Comey firing, and whether the Mueller investigation is really nearing its end.

    What’s your biggest takeaway from it?

    My concern with this story is that it felt, to some extent, like it was a “duh” story. What does the public think Mueller is doing? The public’s understanding of it is “Oh, well, Mueller is looking at whether Trump colluded with the Russians.” But nobody has ever detailed or explained the basis of that thinking, right? Do you understand what I am saying?

    You are saying that we all thought this is what was going on, but all we really knew was that the F.B.I. had an obstruction investigation. We didn’t know that there was a counterintelligence investigation—

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/fbi-counterintelligence-investigation-president-trump-interview-times-journalist-adam-goldman-russia

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  30. GSparrow says:

    As SD has pointed out many times, these deliberate “leaks” are carefully planned and executed to create suspicion and even belief in Trump’s alleged collusion or political misdeeds. The corrupt MSM is spoon fed this crap and obediently disseminate it as ordered by their political bosses. I noticed this headline while doing a routine surf.

    Yahoo “News” Story Title:
    “President Donald Trump’s behavior ‘so concerning’ FBI opened inquiry into potential collusion with Russia.”.

    ‘…..Trump was reportedly assessed to determine whether he was a threat to national security. The inquiry “forced” counterintelligence investigators to evaluate if Mr Trump was deliberately working for Russia or if he had unintentionally been influenced by Moscow, according to the report…The Times says it is unclear whether Mr Mueller is still pursuing the counterintelligence angle…”

    Then, when Trump sends out a flurry of tweets to counter these smear jobs, he’s accused of ranting etc. I wish a majority of Americans would learn the despicable truth about this coup attempt.

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  31. concerned3 says:

    In my opinion, one or more of the ‘Five Eyes’ partners spied on an American citizen and his campaign. At the request of the then setting American President Obama. Director Brennan and the others were simply reacting to this request. In part to protect this clearly illegal action from being revealed and in part to protect their own duplicity. As with all good spies they cooked up their own escape plan before the project began.

    ‘Five Eyes’ partners have spied on each other’s citizens as a legal ‘work around’ to their national laws designed to prevent such domestic eavesdropping on citizens by their respective agencies.

    In the U.S., domestic surveillance orders are issued by a special Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), pursuant to the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The other nations, the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, have similar restrictive laws in place.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-30/trump-may-be-right-five-eyes-allies-do-spy-one-another

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  32. Donzo says:

    From Jeff Carlson’s article:
    “Of particular note throughout the interview was the discussion of intent. Page noted that what they were looking for was “an intent to mishandle classified information.” She continued, “I cannot point to anything with respect to what the team uncovered that spoke to her having an intent to mishandle classified information.”
    ..ummmm…So what was the smashing of cell phones with hammers? …. the unintentional smashing of cell phones with hammers?
    Caveat Emptor if there ever was one.

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    • Donzo says:

      Oh, I get it. ” with respect to what the team uncovered… ” And the team did not uncover the stuff about destroying evidence with hammers and bleach bit, etc. Therefore, it is not evidence.

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  33. Hebo Sabe says:

    All in good time, guys. The funeral of GHWB showed just who is in charge.

    Don’t let the guys who live in the moment and the past … scare you about an unknown future that they seem to know about.

    MAGA

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  34. concerned3 says:

    Here is how the request to spy on Trump could have happen.

    President(Obama) to DNI director(Clapper) to CIA Director(Brennan) to British Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) back door. So did Nellie Ohr really work for Brennan?

    by Accuracy In Media on March 18, 2017
    Print: Share: [AIM CIJ Director’s Note:

    UPDATE: Former NSA/CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery has told Accuracy in Media through his attorney Larry Klayman that it is entirely possible that the British Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) was used as a back channel to collect and pass information—based on electronic surveillance of Trump associates and Donald J. Trump personally—to officials in the Obama administration. Montgomery said the procedure known as shell-game eavesdropping, in which the NSA can deny they are wiretapping, and the GCHQ can also deny that they are wiretapping, could have been used in this case. In other words, the NSA, CIA or FBI would ask the British to conduct the surveillance on behalf of the U.S. government so that U.S. officials could deny their own involvement.

    Montgomery said that he has provided extensive evidence of illegal wiretapping by U.S. intelligence agencies to the FBI, but that the Bureau has failed to act on the evidence since he provided it almost two years ago.

    https://www.aim.org/special-report/a-watergate-style-threat-to-the-democratic-process/

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  35. cali says:

    @Sundance: Great netting together the treasonous activities of the three-letter entities against president-elect, candidate and then president Trump.

    Here is a fact that will really shine the light in how deep and extensive Hussein, Brennan, Clapper and HRC were involved in not only espionage but also conspiring to frame a sitting president.

    Recently we learned that the 5EYES = UK, Canada, Australia, NZ and the USA was the creation by the rogue CIA and their allies abroad as tool to spy not only about their own citizens but also exchanging information about their info gained via this illegal intelligence laundromat of other citizens.

    It is that illegal outfit of 5EYES that colluded together with Hussein, Brennan, HRC writ large laundering intelligence gained via illegal means ergo Brennan, Hussein, Fargas, HRC, Clapper, Kerry, Nuland, Chalupa, Steele and his handler FBI Gaetz had everything they needed to put together the framing of president Trump.

    We know that the CIA is not suppose to do domestic spying but they found their own 5EYES to do so while keeping their illegal gained intelligence ergo avoiding official intelligence channels. They also were able to avoid being caught illegally spying on everything and everyone all throughout the Hussein administration.

    “They thought she would never loose” – thankfully they did and now we know that the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and those traitors within the CIA and their politicians and president had their own illegal spy operation in use called the “5EYES”.

    It is that collusion of countries who are involved in the coup against our presidents as well as they are agents of the NWO.

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  36. CN says:

    I take Epoch Times (AKA Stealthjeff) with a few grains of salt. Not that I don’t believe in corruption, it’s that I include his silly “white hats” in the set of corrupt plotters. Sessions and Rosenstein are no heroes, and there has not been a single prosecution of these plotters and felons. Not one. Our criminal justice system has developed to give the oligarchs a free pass at every turn, and is hence untrustworthy. A few demotions and early retirements are NOT Watergate style prosecutions. The conclusions made by the Epoch Times have largely been the stuff of cheap fiction and hero worship.

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