U.S. Sending Trade Delegation to China January 7th…

According to a report in Bloomberg News the U.S. is sending a trade negotiation team to Beijing on January 7th, 2019.  If accurate this would be the first face-to-face delegation since President Trump and Chairman Xi outlined the structure for strategic trade discussions during the G20 meeting in Buenos Aires.

(Via Bloomberg) A U.S. government delegation will travel to Beijing in the week of Jan. 7 to hold trade talks with Chinese officials, two people familiar with the matter said.

Deputy U.S. Trade Representative Jeffrey Gerrish will lead the Trump administration’s team, which will also include Treasury Under Secretary for International Affairs David Malpass, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Neither the USTR nor Treasury responded to requests for comment. (more)

When President Trump outlined the preliminary terms for negotiations between the U.S. and China, U.S Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer was assigned the lead position for the contacts.   Abassador Lighthizer has been very firm in pointing out the 90-day window for discussions, prior to enhanced tariff action, was not going to change.  The deadline is March 1st, 2019, for a principle agreement, or the next phase of tariffs is triggered.

THE DANCE – There are some signs Beijing is trying to bring an aggressive North Korea back into play as leverage toward China’s economic negotiation goals.  President Trump will almost certainly instruct Secretary Mike Pompeo to engage and schedule a second meeting between Chairman Kim Jong-un and President Trump.

Trump’s move to keep North Korea’s Chairman Kim visible and negotiating is less about DPRK denuclearization and more specifically about keeping Chairman Xi from being able to leverage DPRK denuclearization as part of China’s trade leverage.  This aspect to the U.S -vs China geopolitical confrontation can be described as the dance of the panda mask.

No other president would, could, or has, ever considered publicly taking on this dual economic and diplomatic challenge.   Not only is President Trump taking on China, but he is simultaneously taking on every financial interest who previously acquiesced to China – because they saw no option.

Only, and I do mean O.N.L.Y President Trump has the cunning to take on China, Wall Street, the multinational banking system (IMF), the World Trade Organization, and every vested global politician…. while simultaneously taking on Beijing’s DPRK control ploys.

The vast majority of punditry and news discussion will focus on Trump and Xi as if they are direct adversaries.  That adversarial perspective is not only misplaced, it is merely the tip of the iceberg.  A limited perspective will entirely miss what is happening beneath the surface.   That’s where the fight is.  That’s where the really good stuff is happening.

The real challenge in dealing with or confronting China is what happens in the places we cannot see directly attached.  Specifically because politicians suck at complex strategies that not entirely obvious to the consuming masses – we have never had a politician with the right skills, in the right position, to take on a cunning Eastern economic adversary.

We do now.

POTUS Trump’s life dealing with predatory financial adversaries, including the Chinese, has provided him with a very specific set of skills.  Trump is keenly aware of the cunning nature behind the panda mask; and the results so far are excellent.  It is also clear that Robert Lighthizer holds a solid understanding of this specific adversary.

Those who follow global politics and global economics well understand the significance and massive consequence in this U.S. -vs- China confrontation.   This economic challenge is planetary in scale.  This one is for all the marbles.  There are trillions upon trillions at stake, and Donald Trump is confronting decades of planning by global financial interests.

 

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103 Responses to U.S. Sending Trade Delegation to China January 7th…

  1. Sporty says:

    I love this Man, and will enjoy our new American wall.

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  2. nattyrem420 says:

    When this TD is announced, the us markets will explode in effect crashing all others global. This is the volatility we are seeing in the NYSE. The shifts are extremely volatile and will be for quite some time

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    • Jedi9 says:

      You are correct! As a trader by profession, all positions have to be closed before years end due to unpredictable volatility! It’s after the New Year and the first day of trading that is going to be telling! I suspect that there will be no new deal with China, and prolonging it is actually more beneficial to American interests. This is something that we are watching very carefully!

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  3. ichicinnabar says:

    Sundance,
    I see what you are telling us. No disrespect to Gerrish and Milpass, but they are not Lighthizer. On the other hand Pompeo contacts Kim.

    Is this POTUS Trump signaling displeasure to Xi? Or rather elevating Kim to pull him out of Xi’s influence?

    Ichi

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    • no-nonsence-nancy says:

      PT must trust them or he wouldn’t be sending them. I trust the judgement of PT.

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      • Carrie2 says:

        no-nonsense, I agree. I have travels several times to China and studied there and have Chinese friends in Beijing. The Chinese of today enjoy more freedom, more income, and like living well with cars, better clothing,you name it and much of what they want and use and buy are from America. So, Xi, is also aware you can’t push the Chinese a lot because they will cause another battle and the few communists left won’t be happy. Our President is a great poker playing and king of the art of the deal, so whatever results will benefit both countries. China does not want another uprising but just some sort of “equality” with us. At least this is how I have seen it over the changing years of being there. Great education there as well and many are learning English knowing how important the language is for them to get good job in China. China has changed a lot just since the Olympics there so a very different flavor of life there. I do pray that Trump and Xi get it right for both countries, but again America First.

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        • Voltaire says:

          Agreed. China’s worst enemy is within, not without.
          As William Wallace said on the cross, so to will the Chinese people soon say:

          Freedom!

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        • mac says:

          Carrie2,

          I have experience with China myself, having visited there several times and spent much time working with PRC nationals. My take is that most Chinese have a lot of respect for America as it used to be, and are deeply puzzled by the anti-American take of the Democrat Party. I don’t sense any animosity toward the U.S. and I think a lot of the Chinese I knew wish their country would change to be more like the things they admire in our country.

          There is no reason for our two countries to be enemies. The Chinese friends I have all quietly acknowledge that Mao was an insane, depraved mass murderer. Their respect and admiration is given to Deng Xiaoping, who they credit for bringing China into the modern world. There should be no systemic economic quarrel since the Chinese are born capitalists who would much rather trade than fight, and who are pragmatic enough to know that war is the one thing no involved party wins. I am certain that this Chinese government understands all that happens in war is that some people lose more than others, but everyone loses. If they push but meet tough resistance, they’ll back off.

          This Chinese government hasn’t run up against someone like President Trump as the American leader. I think they now know he’s not going to be conned or bullied, but that he is open to agreements where both sides can win. Since there are a lot of situations like that waiting to be sorted, I suspect they hope and expect to have a good and cooperative relationship with the U.S. that is mutually beneficial.

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        • Steve Herman says:

          China is probably more capitalist than the USA. They have a large and growing middle class. In light of their middle class, China does not want an economic/trade war with the USA. In a similar manner, the Chinese middle class does not want a military war with the USA. The 1989 Tienanmen Square protest was the rise of the middle class. The protest took the lives of thousands, prob 10s of thousands of China’s middle class. The protest made the case for economic power that the middle class was willing to die for. IOW, the Old Guard has the political power, the middle class has the economic power and proved they are willing to die to keep the economy flowing. Their middle class do not want to return to the farms. If the Old Guard screws up and escalates a trade war that depresses, or God forbid, collapses their econ, then the Old Guard realizes this could tear the country apart with the real possibility/probability of taking down the Old Guard.

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          • No MultiCulti says:

            Agreed they “do not want to return to the farm”. They don’t have to, their government is buying up farms overseas.
            China has zero interest in being “friends” of the West. They put their own citizens first and last. When China joined the WTO in 2001 it spelled the end independence for Oceania. The Chinese have been committing theft by stealth with the full agreement of the globalist governments. If only we had someone like President Trump , but even if we did have someone with his foresight it is too late for us.
            Oceania is becoming another province of China, as predicted by a “populist” minority 20 years ago – when we were all called racists, xenophobes etc to shut us up. The Chinese now own a significant proportion of New Zealand’s food production and are well on the way to adding vaste tracts of Australia. Oceania is now part of the food bowl of China with Oceania’s farmers the new serfs. Milk production is a particular purchase target. Chinese now intensively farm in NZ ( like California). The company that handled all NZ farm milk (owed by the farmers co-operative) were babes in the woods, naively going into partnership with China with disastrous results and are now broke. The farm gate price keeps dropping and dropping as they try to recoup a billion dollars. Independent farmers are getting older – as falling incomes cannot attract workers. Many sell to Chinese buyers who offer way above market for their land. Not realising that their farm reps have squandered their future farmers cannot get off the Hamster wheel, now trying to increase milk production at the expense of the land and their herds. Cows which used to have an acre of land each, are now part of herds of 300+, surviving on the same size pasture that once held 100; the animals are now fed hard tack (like horses) as once verdant pastures are stripped bare; increasingly marginal land is being used for dairy – witness cows trying to navigate mountainous pastures which held sheep a decade ago. These large herds of mistreated animals are now skinny, ill-fed, over milked and destined within a few year to be corralled in a shed, unable to move, just surviving by eating and being milked. Pathetic that the NZ and Australian governments turn a blind eye because they are so besotted with the incomes from China. It is a disgrace.
            In other agricultural sectors (fisheries, horticulture) Oceania residents are now used to second rate food, Gone are the days of fat prawns, fresh vegetables and fruit. We live on second rate food as all the good stuff gets shipped to China. Mass immigration from China continues unabated.

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            • No MultiCulti says:

              I too have experience with working in China and working with multi nationals doing business there. Although they may be friendly, I saw no evidence that friendship is a guiding concern. However, they are prepared to do business, on their terms. President Trump is the only leader to have confronted their hegemony.

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        • China is like a poker player who got caught cheating and, after piling up a bunch of chips, still wants to keep playing but this time ‘by the rules’. However, after having proven that, given the chance, they will cheat, their ‘word’ isn’t worth all that much.

          While visiting China everything you saw was the result of the Chinese Communist Party. Nothing happens in China without their authorization and approval both good and bad.

          As long as — in any way, shape or form — American labor is exposed to Chinese labor, Americans will see their standard of living decline.

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    • Deploying Gerrish and Malpass sends the signal that China’s not yet EARNED any more.

      Tick tock, China. Time’s a wasting.

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  4. Robert W says:

    I don’t want to think about it, but I’m scared of the time after Trump leaves office. I worry about everything being undone as quick as it was set by Trump. I wish he could be elected for life. I wouldn’t want any other President that opportunity butTrump…. Yes. I really pray the Lord’s protection upon him and his family. Thank You Mr. President so so very much for all you do.

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    • Elric VIII says:

      President for Life – meh, not so much. But a winning Trump doctrine should be cemented into U.S. politics. If the 2020 election can re-elect the President and gain significant majorities in the House and Senate who are supportive of his policies, we should be able to pass legislation embedding the basic stance into law where it will be difficult, if not impractical or impossible, to overturn. Also, President Trump must be grooming a successor who is like-minded and like-spirited.

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      • Old Codger says:

        “President Trump must be grooming a successor who is like-minded and like-spirited.”

        Guess that means that current VEEP Pedo-Pence is on his way out, eh?

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        • Carrie2 says:

          Old Codger, and it would be a male or a female as we have both that are strong n today’s world. But it must be a tough customer like Trump who know business and are not part of the politician world.

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        • piper567 says:

          Old Codger, certainly hope you are right.
          Pence is a fine VP, he does what he is told.
          But he’s NOT a Leader,, nor is he an Alpha Male.
          Both characteristics will be needed.
          And, I’m pretty certain our Great President understands this well.

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      • Carrie2 says:

        Elric, and it is up to us to hire better representation in the Congress. A young new republican wanted a bill for all in Congress to operate/work out of their home state and work by real time live video and no more gathering to do the dirty in DC. Fantastic idea and that is why I would like to see. They would not get lifetime benefits and must purchase their own insurance, etc. No outsider donors or illegal insider trading. Frankly, there is no reason for them to be in DC as it is a cesspool and a swamp. Just as we hired Trump and forced the Congress to let us hire for the Supreme Court, we must remind them we, the people are the government and they are our employees (again thanks to Ben Sasse for stating this clearly in his speech to fellow democrats).

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        • Jedi9 says:

          Talk is cheap!

          Addressing voter fraud should be a TOP priority! Not doing so will spell trouble for our beloved Republics future! There is just no getting around this issue, it has to be addressed!

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        • cthulhu says:

          On the contrary, I think it is important for these people to see each other face-to-face and hobnob together. I would propose that they might do so from September to May in an appropriate facility far removed from Washington, DC. Thule AFB would be perfect.

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        • JoAnn Leichliter says:

          Got a kick out of your jab at Sen. Sasse there at the end. Sasse (one of my two senators) is problematic. He has that academic “I am so much smarter” attitude and a reluctance to give President Trump credit where it is due. However, his voting record is good. I try to praise him when he deserves it and reason with him when we disagree, but he just makes me tired.

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      • Dutchman says:

        I THINK the resilience may be an inherent part of something being a “Doctrine”; its making a turn in policy, so dramatic and consequential that turning away from it while possible, is difficult and time consuming, and any new doctrine will be compared/contrasted with the old.

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    • treehouseron says:

      What it comes down to is, he can’t be elected for life and there are good reasons he can’t… so we’ll have to learn to trust whoever’s next.

      I’ll tell you what I’m going to do. I’m going to vote, and fully support, whoever he tells me to. Period. He’s earned that. If he tells me to vote for Jeb! I will.

      I’m dead serious. I’m going to vote for whomever he picks as his successor.

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      • Dutchman says:

        After just 2 years of DJT as POTUS, can you imagine us having any patience at all with a POTUS like any of the last 4?

        Not only accomplishes few of their campaign promises, but BREAKS such promises, lies to our faces, etc.

        After 8 years of MAGA/KAG, we will have come to expect well,…a HIGHER level of,….service from our chief executive.

        He will have/has raised our expectations, and any successor will be compared to him, for many terms to come.

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  5. fleporeblog says:

    China 🇨🇳 realizes they have lost and are doing everything humanly possible to save face and their paper economy!

    From the article linked above:

    China announced another round of tariff cuts, lowering import taxes on more than 700 goods from Jan. 1 as part of its efforts to open up the economy and lower costs for domestic consumers.

    There will also be cuts to some export tariffs, and temporary import tariff rates will be as low as zero for some goods, the Ministry of Finance said in a statement on Monday.

    The ‘temporary’ rates can be changed ad hoc and can be lower than the current Most-Favored Nations standard though they are also available to all World Trade Organization members.

    Key Insights

    This is the third round of tariff cuts announced this year, as China looks to cut costs for consumers and implement President Xi Jinping’s promises to open up further.

    U.S. exports will get the benefit of the reductions as well, although most products will still be subject to the retaliatory tariffs until there is a breakthrough in the ongoing talks.

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    • fleporeblog says:

      Let’s take a look at each Market and where they stand in 2018 when compared to 2017.

      USA 🇺🇸 Markets

      DJIA is down 7.45%.
      S&P 500 is down 7.7%
      Nasdaq Composite is down 5.06%

      China 🇨🇳 Markets

      Shanghai Composite is down 24.46%
      Shenzhen Composite is down 32.62%
      Shanghai 50 is down 20.24%

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      • fleporeblog says:

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        • Janie M. says:

          fle, “Chinese passed legislation saying intellectual property theft is illegal.” And it was passed with a wink and a nod. I do NOT trust the Chicoms. They are are not innovators, they have to steal intellectual property to sustain their industries. I will welcome the day I no longer see “China” stamped on a product or the product bearing a Made in China sticker/pkg. I am tired of/hate their cheap JUNK! “Made in the USA” must become the standard of quality.

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          • fleporeblog says:

            I agree! Our President and his Killers know it as well. It could be China’s way of saving face by making it illegal. Time will tell.

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            • Janie M. says:

              Aren’t all Chinese industries subsidized by the government? So aren’t they doing nothing more than offering lip service (legislation) to “end” a longstanding practice?

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              • Jedi9 says:

                Yes! You are correct! China is not a free market capital system! Theirs is a State Capital market system controlled by the Communist party apparatuses! Big difference! So when they announced this new law “stealing intellectual property rights” as being illegal, I had to laugh knowing intimately what Chinese culture is, it’s nothing more than window dressing for the propaganda machine that they are so heavily invested in!

                They know they are at risk right now with the many operatives they have within the US, which is why acquiescencing to US demands is more of a strategy of staving off the heat to their continued stealing! Silicon Valley? A den of spies? Our universities serves as a cover for a lot of their operatives who seek to continue their theft! China can never be trusted!

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                • Janie M. says:

                  One of their problems is their lack of integrity. By that I mean profit above all else. They have no problem adulterating food products with inedible chemicals, etc. I am reminded of how melamine a plastic product used for tableware was used by companies in China from whom US pet food manufacturers purchased their protein component to increase protein levels. Dogs and cats in the US either died or became gravely ill. Then…. the same thing happened a few years later with their own baby formula (Sanlu). Dairy farmers were adulterating their milk, again with melamine. You would think Sanlu would have tested all the milk it purchased, no quality control? WTH?!! Babies became ill and surely some died.

                  A few years ago, they had problems with the immunization vaccines given to babies. Again, adulteration. Don’t recall what components they used. But some babies were severely impacted. They were permanently disabled. If you are unwilling to monitor or adulterate the products consumed/used by the most vulnerable of your population, you are evil/corrupt. Ignorance is no excuse.

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            • Janie M. says:

              BTW, I still think it’s a good idea for American companies in China to fold up their tents and return home. It would be the ONLY way (besides our government prosecuting Chinese industrial spies in the US) to stop the thievery of our I.P.

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            • Dutchman says:

              fle, I been anxious to see you weigh in on China. Do you believe China can agree, and truly comply with POTUS’s demands, and survive as they are currently constituted?

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          • Carrie2 says:

            Janie M, but we never said to Japan stealing our tech stuff, did we? I worked in patents and the lawsuit against Japan for doing the same. Are they still doing it? Since I stopped working in that field, I can’t answer.

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          • mac says:

            Janie,

            We will be making a VERY bad mistake if we underestimate these people. The Chinese I’ve known are smart, hard-working and very driven. They would be good people to have on your side in any difficult endeavor, and I think they would make a pretty capable and unpleasant enemy.

            The Chinese have a lot of problems and internal divisions, and these are disruptive enough to cause their government a great many headaches without any action by us. What America should do is maintain a proper, peaceful, and mutually unthreatening relationship with them so as to not give them an outside enemy on which to concentrate their anger. That won’t be easy because it’s a time-proven tactic to distract from internal difficulties by blaming foreigners for internal problems. Our job is to try to avoid being the foreigners they blame. There will always be commercial rivalries, but having the Chinese as real enemies would not be in America’s best interests.

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        • Dutchman says:

          fle;
          Do you believe China can truly comply with POTUS’s demands, and survive as currently constituted?

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          • fleporeblog says:

            They have no choice! One way or the other, they have to accept their medicine. I think they fear their own people rising up since they have gotten a taste of money. If they don’t give in, that is exactly what will happen.

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            • Dutchman says:

              I agree, but “as currently constituted”;
              The ‘corruption’ discussed above is INHERENT in their system.

              The innefficiency is INHERENT in their system.

              The inability to innovate, is INHERENT in their system.

              Hence, requiring them to compete on a level playing field, (no IPT, open markets, etc.) and they can’t compete.

              Hence they will have to change, fundamentally, in order to compete.

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      • michaelh says:

        The Empire of Lies must be brought down!

        It’s happening.

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      • Gregory Jenkins says:

        I’m not a stock trader or an economist but this caught my attention –

        Nick Colas, who runs market analysis firm DataTrek Research, said. “The Chinese stock market actually tells us very little about the country’s economic welfare and doesn’t play anywhere near as dominant a role in the lives of its citizens as the US equity market does in America,”

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        • fleporeblog says:

          Think about it for one second why they would want to get that talking point out? China 🇨🇳 is all smoke and mirrors. We are seeing it with each passing day.

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          • Gregory Jenkins says:

            You are way more knowledgeable than I about all of this. I am trying my hardest to live a life without all of the nonsense the world has to offer today. I wish I could understand half of what you have shared with us all here but I don’t and won’t ever. Years ago I went back to basics, I have family with plenty of money and if I ever needed a bunch of it for any particular reason I’m pretty sure they’d give it to me if I absolutely needed it. I only worry about what is going to happen to this country and that I have plenty of food water and shelter. Everything else is an extra in my mind. My view of the Florida Everglades is worth billions if not trillions at this point to me. Way more than any penthouse in the largest sky scraper in the world! I would simply hate to lose a war with China and trading with them IMO is losing that war!

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            • fleporeblog says:

              I agree with you! The last intention our President has is to put us in a situation where we are dependent on China 🇨🇳 for anything. I think his ultimate plan is to bring all those corporations back into our country. By showing the Chinese weakness, you are actually showing our country’ strength. Slowly but surely it will happen. We are seeing signs of it with Apple and others.

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              • Jedi9 says:

                I wouldn’t put too much stock in Apple so Long as they continue to do Chinas bidding! Apple alone is one of China’s leading imported sold products! IMO Apple currents presents itself as a Trojan horse! I don’t trust Apple and are right up there with Google, Facebook, and Twatter!

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                • fleporeblog says:

                  They are opening another billion dollar facility in Texas and two additional smaller facilities in California.

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                • Jedi9 says:

                  RE: “They are opening another billion dollar facility in Texas and two additional smaller facilities in California”

                  Yes I know, hence my Trojan Horse comment. Yeah its great that they opening new facilities and creating jobs, but at what cost to national security? I think it is great that new facilities are being built but greater scrutiny has to be applied when speaking about Apple, and their relationship with China. Remember Huawei and the other communications company who were refused access to the mobile communications market in the US? Well China makes parts for Apple, and so it goes with out saying that certain restrictions and scrutiny needs to be applied in order to insure that China is not sneaking their way past the guard in order to continue their stealing of American technology as well as trying to exploit it as well. Sorry but this can not be stated enough!

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              • Dutchman says:

                Yes. Its Reagan vs. USSR,…2.0.
                Reagan won, when he realised the “cold war” was an economic one, NOT a military war.
                Everything else, was just allowing it to play out. First comes the vision, then the action.
                A Communist ECONOMY can not compete with a free market capitalist economy.

                Particularly when the free market economy COULD be self sustaining, whereas the communist economy, NOT!

                Metaphorically speaking, “its,all over but the shooting”; practically speaking, capitulation and surrender, without firing a shot.

                China must fundamentally transform, in order to compete without cheating, which is what POTUS is demanding.

                A shooting war gains nobody anything.

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      • tucker7518 says:

        President Xi needs to do a deal with Trump, or another stimulus

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      • notfaded1 says:

        I totally agree flep… I think Trump is basically telling them it’s time for free trade to really be free and fair… or ELSE! VSG knows what he can do with the tools at his disposal. I also love Charles Payne… he’s the real deal. This should be the big news being reported. Just as VSGPDJT trip to Iraq with first lady (a rare thing indeed) should be big HUGE news. Instead the MSM media was trying to talk down everything and reminiscing about Trumps bone spurs lol! You just can’t make this stuff up. I think VSG has Xi’s number now. This is going to TBV – Trust But Verify with the Chinese and trade. I don’t believe China’s economy has the ability to weather the kinds of storms the USA’s can and VSG knows this. Much of the Chicom economy is a house or cards of sorts and sees through the veil.

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    • Thoughts on our END GAME for CHINA TRADE: It will take YEARS to reach a Deal.

      IP THEFT SOLUTION: This must be a precondition of any trade deal.
      • It will be impossible to CERTIFY that China has ended IP Theft.
      • It is a certainty that they will continue to SELL products/services that use that IP.
      • Best solution is for China to ESCROW sufficient funds to REPAY every IP Theft Victim the FULL LIFECYCLE MARKET VALUE of type of product/service sold that uses the IP.

      DEFENSE-INDUSTRIAL SPYING, HACKING and CYBER WARFARE: All must end.
      • This will continue so long as our Universities and Businesses employ Chinese people.
      • Best solution is to remove all Chinese citizens from Education, Infrastructure, Telecommunications and IP-intensive Business Sectors.
      • This will mean forced sale of Chinese Stakes in any ownership and joint ventures.
      • It will also require a ban on the use of any Chinese Technology in America.

      RECIPROCAL TRADE: China must eliminate our Trade Deficit to seal any Deal.
      • Our Deficit will never end until Deficit-driven Escalating Tariffs are implemented.
      • China must OWN responsibility to produce SUSTAINABLE Balanced Trade.
      • Massive Tariff incentives will be required to induce China to change its Trade Culture.
      • Tariff increases should be quickly triggered by any USA Trade Deficit growth.
      • Tariff decreases should be slowly triggered after sustained Trade Deficit reductions.

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  6. vikingmom says:

    “The real challenge in dealing with or confronting China is what happens in the places we cannot see directly attached. Specifically because politicians suck at complex strategies that not entirely obvious to the consuming masses – we have never had a politician with the right skills, in the right position, to take on a cunning Eastern economic adversary.”

    The vast majority of our political class, for the last 50 years, especially, consists of Ivy League trained academics and lawyers who have zero experience in the “real” world of business, especially as it relates to international negotiations. They all think they are the smartest ones in the room and have no idea that the rest of the world is laughing at them, even while they flatter their egos and sign deals that anyone with common sense can see are horrible for average Americans. The media fits into this category as well – always eager to lecture and virtue signal, but making fools of themselves on a daily basis with their sycophantic ignorance!

    There is also a small cadre of puppet masters behind the scenes who know EXACTLY what is happening and they are getting filthy rich by manipulating both the politicians AND the average voter. They are the ones who have sold their souls and they are the ones underneath ALL of the corruption…and Donald Trump knows who they are and is working like crazy to expose them but their tentacles run very deep and they are playing for keeps. So, we have to keep waiting and keep praying, for it WILL take a miracle to expose them and stop them at this point!

    “The LORD has made everything for His purpose–even the wicked for the day of disaster.” Proverbs 16:4

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  7. Gregory Jenkins says:

    Hey I have a GREAT IDEA – Let’s just keep feeding our greatest enemy in the world CHINA. I laugh at those which say “well if we cut trade with China Americans will suffer”. I laugh at that – the suffering will be to the ego of an American who would have to possibly grow his own food or make his own clothes or play a card game instead of a video game or not be able to watch TV or will have to ride a horse instead of drive a car or truck. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired about the CHINESE trying to destroy America. Cut them off and let’s suffer until which time we can reestablish America back to what it should be! It’s either we destroy our enemies or they destroy us I assure you. There is no such things as friends in business and enemies in war IMO – we are either friends or enemies PERIOD! I am no economist but I do know that I can and my family can survive without money period let alone goods from China.

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  8. Daniel M. Camac says:

    SD, You’ve been consistent in pointing our how Xi uses DPRK as a pawn in all things critical to China’s successes. This writing would certainly get you another ‘star’ on your paper, like the old days, if only we had any teachers left who could see the truth and logic of it all.
    Merry Christmas and a healthy Happy New Yeaerto you and all the Treepers I’ve been lucky enough to follow for 2+ years.
    It will only get better thanks to VSGPDJT. #MAGA and #KAG

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  9. WSB says:

    Crazy good, huh?!

    I always go back to the meme that SD presented about NK, Chairman Kim and President Moon…”Yes, Kim, there WILL be a McDonald’s in Pyongyang.”

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  10. railer says:

    The Chinese have called for low level negotiations, clearly because they accept that they are going to be making significant movement and they’d rather it appear to be their idea, absent a great public climb down, in order to save face. They’ve obviously worked it all through back home, and the grizzled old greedheads have likely come to accept that their state monopoly gravy trains are going to have to start running a little leaner. Trump is a generous guy and he doesn’t appear to be crowing huge, at least not right now. He’ll let them save face, if they come to the table with the necessary concessions on paper or already in implementation.

    This is really a one way deal. It’s the Chinese that have to make the movement here. They’re seeking leverage elsewhere, with North Korea as our host mentions, as well as the kidnapped Canadian citizens. We shouldn’t take anything for granted, as these people respond only to pressure. This lower level negotiation is a good sign though. They’ll bring in the heavyweights after things take shape, but for now they’ll probably demolish some of their trade barriers and make way for more US imports, and leave that up to the underlings.

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    • Old Codger says:

      “…the kidnapped Canadian citizens.”

      Wait! I thought Nancy Boy Sparkle-sox Trudeau signed an agreement that provided Canadians would be “eaten last?”

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    • Suzanne says:

      I think these “low level negotiations” are a stall tactic…. kind of like Mueller and the demonrats running out the clock hoping they can manufacture enough votes in 2020 to oust our most wonderful President… voter fraud and this new ploy of vote “harvesting” come immediately to mind. They now know they need more than 60+ million votes and anyone who doesn’t think they’ve already figured out how to get those votes is naive

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      • GB Bari says:

        IMHO the naïveté is on the part of anyone who thinks PDJT hasn’t gamed out his entire negotiation strategy for the PRC. He’s not going to wait long enough for them to affect voters in 2020. His deadlines vs. punitive tariff / trade actions will be short and hard -ended. This isn’t a project he just developed in the past few years. This has been 30+ years in the planning.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Its related. Mueller, the media and Congressional opposition to DJT as POTUS, is DIRECTLY related to what he is,doing with China and trade.

        Put another way, if DJT, as POTUS, had been willing to let the CoC lobbyists negotiate trade deals for the US, he probably would not be getting the extreme, over the top ‘resistance’we are seeing.

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    • IMO it’s not sufficient for them to selectively cut tariffs or announce more open markets.

      China must FIRST produce OUTCOMES:
      • IP Theft CONSEQUENCES that have made it irreversibly disappear.
      • Elimination of OPPORTUNITIES for Spying, Hacking and Cybersecurity.
      • REBALANCING of our Trade Deficit with auto-mechanisms to prevent its recurrence.

      [See post above]

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  11. The complexity of these related issues, and the maneuvers required to repair the damage to the USA, are significant. And either alone, let alone both together, are far beyond the mental prowess almost everyone in the “governing class” and media.

    Another reminder of how blessed we are to have Pres. Trump and his MAGA team.

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  12. Reality says:

    PDJT, just fund a complete Wall….I don’t care how, you have the military budget. You have no excuse.
    Roughly $20 billion +. A rounding error in the total dollars of Federal budget expenditure or the Defence budget.
    Do you not understand that illegal and legal 3rd world immigration will allow those cultures to capture US voting demographics in the near future. America will then be run by 3rd world social values forever.
    Geeez, this is frustrating.

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  13. treehouseron says:

    Has anybody noticed, that basically China is being treated the same as Kim Jung Un now? Essentially President Trump isn’t caving with Kim an inch. His entire presentation has been “Look, you screwed up, you need to fix it, it’s going to take awhile, i’m glad you’re doing better, when you get where you need to be we’ll help.. by the way, we love North Korea, sir. ”

    He’s saying the same thing to China, absolutely 0 compromise, he’s just going hard on them, and all the movement is expected on their end just like all the movement is expected on Kim’s end.

    In both instances though he’s being incredibly respectful, especially for a man who is quick to show disrespect if he feels it’s warranted.

    North Korea and China are both being pretty pragmatic about the whole thing. He’s basically told them we win, it’s inevitable that we win, and if they don’t want to lose they better move towards us. and it’s working.

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  14. Curry Worsham says:

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  15. Steve Herman says:

    pardon my rant, but someone further up this thread spoke of Chinese IP theft. IP theft is real, however espionage driven IP theft is being accomplished at an alarming rate w significant damage to the USA’s future. But there is a third trail of IP theft that is seldom mentioned, it is IP theft at US university research labs.

    Most US university research result in dead-ends through no fault of the researchers, its research. But that is the source of my rant, Chinese students are the platinum standard of campus cheaters. Seldom is there a class w only one or two Chinese students, 4-6 is a standard size for group cheaters. In STEM programs there could be 2 or 3 Chinese groups cheating. Don’t get me wrong, Chinese students attend classes, learn and study as well as any student, but they have ways to cheat that a thesis could be written on. Not that most universities care about Chinese cheaters, the Chinese students pay full tuition, funding and donations by the CCP is numerous and in $$$ millions. The group cheaters are given preferential access to class selections to maintain group continuity. This is done under the guise of cultural stress if group continuity is lost. How sweet and understanding we in the West are.

    Seldom do Chinese students major in fluff programs, no middle Euro art or architecture majors. Most are in STEM programs at major universities, these are the majors that get the students into the CCP or move them up the CCP hierarchy when they return home. Most Chinese students/STEM students are vying for entrance into Masters Programs w the ultimate goal of university research centers and labs. Remember, most Chinese students are platinum level cheaters and didn’t earn their access into university research centers and labs on their own. But CCP donations and the universities’ love for diversity is paramount.

    This is where espionage driven IP theft weave with university research centers and labs that provide a roadmap to find what needs to be stolen. Start-up companies that spin off from the research centers and labs are the most viable to result in commercial or military success. Easy espionage hacks into the start-ups early when they are most susceptible. As a start-up prospers and collaborates w or swallowed up by major corporations, the roadmap provides the agents of espionage with the intellectual property “DNA” they need to find and steal. IOW, major Corps have 100s of millions of files stashed on their networks, having the “DNA = keywords or formulas or recipes or directory titles” can significantly simplify the theft and reduce detection of their incursion.

    Like I said it’s a rant, probably not well constructed or easily followed, what I can do at this hour.

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    • Dutchman says:

      I follow your ‘rant’ easily. I recall reading cheating more broadly is common in Universities, most Professors don’t get administrative support for penalising cheaters,,so they don’t.
      Just means it creates,a ripe opportunity for them to ‘game’the system.

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  16. ~”Only, and I do mean O.N.L.Y President Trump has the cunning to take on China, Wall Street, the multinational banking system (IMF), the World Trade Organization, and every vested global politician…. while simultaneously taking on Beijing’s DPRK control ploys.”~
    What say you, Mike Bloomberg of Bloomberg Financial, NYT’s expert on all things WORLD-ECONOMICS Paul Krugman & CNBC et al, —>they so Smart, He He He. 🙂

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  17. notfaded1 says:

    Sending the subordinates is pure VSG genius as well. VSG can see behind the mask.

    All the marbles and the trillions of dollars at stake. This is the BIG deal and will IMHO be a big part of VSG’s legacy next to stocking the SC at home with a judiciary that the dems won’t be able to handle or change for decades!

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