Panda Requests “Fair Minded” Trade Discussion in Advance of G20 Dinner…

President Trump took all the ‘dragon slayers’ with him to Argentina likely anticipating a rapid Chinese evolution from Panda to Dragon.  Trump’s delegation selection sends exactly that message.  If cunning Chairman Xi exhibits wounded sensibilities, well, tough.

China deployed the panda mask for over a year in an effort to wait-out President Trump, fair enough; however, that strategy has a severe downside.

If lack of engagement is part of Beijing’s economic defense mechanism, ie. retaining the status quo,  you can expect President Trump to provoke the confrontation.

Does Xi feel rucky?

SHANGHAI (Reuters) – China and the United States can reach a trade agreement at the G20 meeting in Argentina this week, the state-run China Daily newspaper said in an editorial on Friday, but Washington must be “fair minded” if it wants to defuse spiraling tensions.

“Beijing wants a deal, just as Washington does. And it is willing to cooperate with Washington in dealing with concerns about trade if they are fair-minded,” the paper said.

“Should there be any other aspirations, such as taking advantage of the trade spat to throttle Chinese growth, then an agreement is unlikely to be reached.”

World leaders started arriving on Thursday in Buenos Aires ahead of the gathering of the Group of 20, where global trade tensions, fueled by U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade war with China, are expected to dominate the agenda.  (read more)

There is no doubt in my mind that President Trump has a very well thought out long-term strategy regarding China. President Trump takes strategic messaging toward the people of China very importantly. President Trump has, very publicly, complimented the friendship he feels toward President Xi Jinping; and praises Chairman Xi for his character, strength and purposeful leadership. Trump knows how to play their panda/dragon games.

Each time China takes aggressive action (red dragon) China projects a panda face through silence and non-response to opinion of that action;…. and then the  action continues. The red dragon has a tendency to say one necessary thing publicly, while manipulating another necessary thing privately. The Art of War.

President Trump is the first U.S. President to understand how the red dragon hides behind the panda mask. Chairman Xi and President Trump are scheduled for a dinner on Saturday night; their first face-to-face meeting in a year.

The entire planet is focused on the dynamic of Chairman Xi and President Trump.  Billions waged on the position of an eyebrow, or the hint of a smile.  Epic stuff.  In the multinational finance world this is bigger than the moon landing, world cup and Olympics combined.  Every nuance and inference to be reviewed in slow-mo replay by hedge-fund managers looking for any indication of hope.

The funniest thing is Donald Trump doesn’t care about all that.  He has the desired ‘America First’ outcome gamed out; POTUS is only looking to see which direction Xi is leaning.  From there Trump puts the instructions to the team (Mnuchin, Pompeo, Ross, Lighthizer and Navarro); yet even they don’t know the full plan, no-one does except President Trump… for a reason.

The Wall Street global financial crowd is on pins-and-needles hoping desperately the confrontation between China and the U.S. doesn’t escalate.

Meanwhile, blue-collar Main Street USA is hoping ‘bull-in-a-china-shop-Trump‘ shows up and punches Xi in the nose; diplomatically of course.

Peter Navarro, Trump’s hardline trade adviser, will attend the meeting between the leaders, a U.S. official told Reuters. Another official said Navarro’s addition was meant to send a message to China about the administration’s resolve on trade. Navarro has advocated a tough stance against Beijing. (more)

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164 Responses to Panda Requests “Fair Minded” Trade Discussion in Advance of G20 Dinner…

  1. sundance says:

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    • fleporeblog says:

      Sundance I was listening to Bloomberg Radio today and they are petrified that Peter Navarro is going to have a seat at the table Saturday. They were hemming and hawing about the fact our farmers were getting mad that their sow is just sitting there going to waste. They said our President was feeling tremendous pressure to get a deal done.

      I guess the MORONS didn’t know about the African swine flu that has severely curtailed the Chinese pork production.

      From the article linked above:

      China is loading up on U.S. pork, despite import tariffs imposed due to the trade war, as a highly contagious swine disease ravages the Chinese hog herd.

      The world’s top hog producer and pork consumer last week placed its largest order for American pork since the trade war began, U.S. Department of Agriculture data showed on Thursday.

      The purchases are a signal that an outbreak of African swine fever is raising concerns of an eventual supply shortfall, potentially superseding trade tensions between the world’s two largest economies, brokers and traders said.

      They also are hiding the fact that Chinese producers are going to eat 20.5% of the 25% tariffs starting on January 1st on $200 billion dollars worth of goods that are imported into our country.

      China 🇨🇳 is seeing their economy sink quicker than anyone could imagine. They are DESPERATE and our President and his Killers can smell the blood in the water.

      They are going to be told that they haven’t felt the ultimate pain yet. Our President will ask for his chocolate cake and tell Xi that come February, 10% tariffs will be put on the remaining $267 billion of imports and that if GM doesn’t buckle, it will be increased to 25% a few weeks later. He will conclude by saying that Apple has been told they can select multiple locations throughout the USA 🇺🇸 to bring their production home.

      The EAGLE 🦅 is going there starring at the ARROWS that will destroy the Dragon 🐉.

      Treepers don’t get consumed by “Muh Russia”. This is the ultimate prize and don’t miss a minute of it!

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      • Ba da BOOM, Flep.

        Time for EXPORT CONTROLS on Pork to China, to “Prevent American Price Spikes”.

        China can then fund any Pork Price Premiums that American Consumers pay due to Exports to China.

        =====

        China produced about 54.65 million metric tons of pork in 2018 (below). In that year, the global pork production amounted to about 118.8 million metric tons.

        The EU produced 24 million MT and the USA produced 12 million MT.

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/273232/net-pork-production-worldwide-by-country/

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        • michaelh says:

          I’d like to take this moment to observe a crucial point influencing my geopolitical leanings and desired outcome in these talks:

          I LIKE BACON. Nom nom.

          Thank you.

          Liked by 8 people

        • michaelh says:

          BKR, I am frustrated that the price of bacon has NOT returned to anything close to a normal or reasonable level since the 2009 swine flu panic. Talk about manipulated market prices – UGH!

          Liked by 7 people

          • Alligator Gar says:

            Yes. This, indeed. I say we all insist on a bacon price peg in any on-going China trade talks! Bacon. It’s what’s for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snack time!

            Liked by 2 people

      • Janie M. says:

        fle, I have noticed A2 has been absent for a couple months. He was very good about giving us on the ground reports. Do you know if he was planning a hiatus?

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        • 🍺Gunny66 says:

          A2 changed name to “cripto”

          If you noticed any of cripto’s posts, they mirror A2’s……

          We identified cripto as A2 a couple of times….

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          • cripto says:

            Hahahaha. No Cripto is not A2. A2 was put in moderation by Ad Rem. Wheatioo saw it and commented. I get comments from A2 from other means as we both live in perilous circumstances, but he is super pissed off by the censorship here.

            Look at his posts about what he called, ‘Pig-gate’ about a year ago . He was giving the Treepers a head’s up. He also posted info, before it hit the headlines. Too bad treepers didn’t catch up.

            I don’t know if you may access his posts, as he was not a WordPress member. He laid it all out there about Smithfield.

            If I am a mirror, it is a bit smudged. Get the CTH, to issue him an apology. Maybe he may return.

            Your move CTH.

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      • WSB says:

        Should we be freezing sliced pork with broccoli and shipping it over to Beijing? LOL!

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      • Eileen says:

        The Chinese began purchasing pork from Russia instead of the United States in late summer this year.The African Swine Fever infection came from Russia. We are US pork producers and raise healthy animals. The Chinese need a reliable protein source and the wise choice would be from our country.

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        • cripto says:

          It’s called import substitution. Not ideal. So do they want bad pork for their citizens, or pork raised by best practices. Thailand has upped its ethically, and eco friendly ( no hormones) pork. People in China trust it. The south Asian nations are upping their game to comply with World wide health regs. So there is that.

          Most Chinese consumers, who think health and food are inextricably combined, are wary of dodgy products.

          Every time there are reports about ‘health benefits’, Chinese consumers respond. That is why red wine took off in China and the elites began to buy up French vineyards. Normally, no one in China would drink foreign wine. Now they do in the tons worth.
          😀

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          • Elle says:

            Yes, the Chinese have a bigger problem that will haunt them and that is the distrust of their foods. My dog got sick from dog food we’d used for years. More than once, from same brand. Shortly after, there was national news about dogs dying from dog dog food made in China.

            Up until that time, I neither knew or cared our brand was made in China. Now I scour the labels. A week ago, the old brand we used came out with a label that said it was manufactured in US. Yea! But..ooops..it is manufactured in US from globally sourced supplies… I put it back.

            They better be careful or their products will be like “Made in Japan” was after WWII.

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        • fleporeblog says:

          Didn’t know that! That is the perfect cherry 🍒 on the sundae.

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      • trapper says:

        Just … yup!

        So the question is, will Xi buckle? I say no. I don’t think he is capable of making a decision that makes rational WESTERN sense. My money is on the old commie riding the Chinese economy right down into the side of Trump mountain, ending the Chinese communist regime.

        And that period, as the regime is ending, will be dangerous. We will need to send a clear, terrifying military message to keep them from doing something stupid. The man doesn’t bluff. Interesting times.

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      • Now, ain’t that just so quaint, that big panda aka red dragon requests fair-minded trade discussion.

        You first red dragon. You. First.

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      • getfitnow says:

        Thank you, fle.

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  2. RF121, Blitherer in Chief says:

    Larry looking real good in the sunglasses.

    Liked by 17 people

  3. mj_inOC says:

    And of course, Politico, already predicting problems:

    https://www.politico.com/

    When will they and the Swamp realize POTUS has a team of tigers, lions, and grizzlies? [LOVE your pix, sundance!]

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  4. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    “yet even they don’t know the full plan, no-one does except President Trump… for a reason.”

    If no one else knows it, than no one can leak it.

    Liked by 16 people

  5. zooamerica says:

    I think the Chinese are smart enough to realize that their best shot at a fair deal is with President Trump.

    Every other candidate will likely go to war.

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  6. Niagara Frontier says:

    These foreign leaders, especially Chairman Xi, must think we’ve lost our minds making life so difficult for our own Lion at home, and especially on the eve of a major foreign trip like this.

    Imagine the open field running the President could do on the world economic stage if he didn’t have to constantly fight so many of his own people, including members of his own party.

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  7. railer says:

    It does sound like the Chinese are looking to make a deal while saving face. I got no problem with them saving face, and Trump’s a guy who wants a deal and hearty handshakes all around afterwards, so he’s no impediment to what China wants in that regard.

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  8. Drogers says:

    ‘Does Xi feel rucky.’

    Well do you, Punk?
    *best Eastwood voice*

    Liked by 11 people

  9. treehouseron says:

    I don’t think most of the world realizes that if things stay as they are right now, we’re completely fine with it.

    President Trump is egging the Chinese on by tweeting about how he loves all the tariffs we’re getting, and perhaps we’ll just leave it like this and get richer than ever before. *snicker snicker

    I have a small retail store, I do little tiny negotiations every day, so I’m pretty good at it. President Trump has worked himself into the perfect position; he can’t lose because even if they don’t make a deal, he WINS with the tariffs! So he doesn’t care one way or the other. Of course he’d like to make a deal, but only if it’s really good for him (us).

    China is in a place where it’s disastrous if they don’t get a deal. People might starve to death. Literally.

    So of course the outcome is going to be that President Trump wins. We just get to watch him play with his food first.

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    • China’s still hoping that a “Deal” won’t require a nationwide crackdown and culture change to STOP STEALING IP.

      Get ready:
      We’re talking YEARS and YEARS.

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      • WSB says:

        It is complete inflitration, though. Chinese ‘students’ participating with ivy league and Government secret programs, buying farmland, security/ tech fabricators, prime real estate, entire industries…on and on.

        I never had seen so much stealing when I was involved with the first Chinese international deal, the Great Wall Hotel project in 1980. A real eye opener then.

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      • michaelh says:

        Crush them. We beat the Soviets, now it’s China’s turn. Crush them till they break and surrender. They are in a far worse economic position than the Soviets in the 80s. Anything less that total economic capitulation to free markets is unacceptable.

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        • I think POTUS will GRADUALLY take China back to the basics of self-sustaining their own economy without the opportunity to loot others.

          Because he’ll do it gradually, China will preoccupy themselves fighting for the upper hand on trade all the way, hoping to out-wait him … as is their long-view mantra.

          NO WARS.

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        • JoAnn Leichliter says:

          Communism works economically only when propped up by Capitalism. Ask the Russians. Reagan was an economics major in college…

          Liked by 1 person

      • Lindenlee says:

        Xi will let his people starve before he gives up IP theft

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    • Dutchman says:

      treehouseron,
      “China is in a place where its disasterous if they don’t get a deal.
      People might starve to death.
      Literally.”

      China has to weigh that prospect (from NOT making a deal) against the results of making a deal, in which they stop all cheating trade practices.

      The problem is, they CAN NOT COMPETE, unless they cheat.
      To change their culture, enough to correct their current deficits (inability to innovate, or produce quality) so as to be able to compete honestly, would require a complete reworking of their system, and eliminating or greatly reducing the influence of Chicom party.

      Its like saying “Do you want to die from stabbing,…or being shot?” Either way, your just as dead. Hobsons choice, I THINK its called.

      And, both as communists, and as a country with BILLIONS of people, sacrificing say,…25-30 million is not a big deal for them.

      The big deal is large #’s of people out of work, AND unable to continue the middle class lifrstyle they have become accustomed to.
      The big deal is another tianamen, only nation wide.
      So, again its knife,…or gun.

      This is why I don’t expect to see any agreement, yet, and I don’t think DJT does, either. But, he knows you have to go through the steps, even if it seems to lead no where, for now.

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      • Ozzytrumpster says:

        I think it was mao who said if Paris ,London or New York were neuced it would devastate the west but if they neuced a few Chinese cities there would still be hundreds of millions of Chinese. Don’t think for a moment that their citizens lives matter to them. They let millions die in the cultural revolution without turning a hair. Anything, rather than lose face and ask for western help.

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        • JoAnn Leichliter says:

          They would lose considerably more now than when Mao ran the show, since they are now highly industrialized, and there has been a large population shift into cities. That is not to say that their government cares about individual lives, but it does care about its own survival.

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    • Eileen says:

      Agree!

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      • lemmus1 says:

        …most Americans find the idea of innovation as natural as waking up …our culture, economic and political systems almost demand it

        …and just as naturally can’t conceive of a society where it has been almost criminalized for more than 70 years …creative, independent, out-of-the-box thinking can be deadly unless state directed …by the very bureaucrats who are least inclined to do so

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    • jmclever says:

      Trump mashed potato tower 😂😂😂

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  10. Martin says:

    Xi is ‘rucky’ the G20 isn’t in São Paulo, or he’d likely be footing the bill. And dragons don’t take American Express.

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  11. elmo says:

    China has not stopped stealing, period. Until they do, no deal.

    Liked by 7 people

    • cripto says:

      And Russia has helped them enormously with upgrading their military, as their stealing has helped upgrade Russia’s defense industries. Friends with benefits

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    • 🍺Gunny66 says:

      That’s ……..the deal……all the other stuff is a side show….stop the stealing…

      As Sundance has stated….with the Chinese…..i it is either Ying or Yang

      Peace or war…… no in between……They cannot lose face…..

      The wording of a deal would be totally important……

      Bottom line; Stop the stealing and the outsourcing of parts…..we leave you alone

      Other items also….. but the wording of such a deal must consider ther saving of face….or there will not be a deal……

      This is sometimes difficult for Americans to understand…..but I have worked in China and have many friends there.

      I have talked candidly on this subject……….This is serious stuff….

      Look…..I was in charge of installing multi-milllion dollar Semiconductor Manfacturing Equipment in China. We had to train Chinese workers to maintain the equipment after we were gone.

      One time I watched a Chinese worker make a mistake on the equipment. I counciled him about it………But he would not admit he made a mistake…..I was standing right by him and saw it……..he adamantly denied it….

      I asked the Chines Supervisor about this. we were friends.

      He stated that the worker could NOT admit he made a mistake or he would lose “face”

      And……..if he lost face…….his life would be over……even to the point of him potentially committing suicide……….

      Difficult business…….our President can handle it

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      • Tottie Mitchell says:

        Thank you for describing your personal experience in China. Comments like this make us all wiser.

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      • jmclever says:

        You must have a great talent for using passive voice to communicate then?

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      • Jake says:

        I was in charge of the multi billion dollar relocation of US forces from the DMZ to a base south of Seoul. During negotiations (the Koreans were paying for it), I noticed the same phenomenon. Negotiating is a blood sport in Asia. If you concede something the Koreans would not acknowledge it. All you did was move your goal post, not theirs. Another maxim over there is once you have an agreement, negotiations have just begun…..

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  12. emet says:

    I grew up in Asia, went to school on Taiwan, spent a lot of time studying in the PRC. I will day this: The average Chinese person believes that Americans are simple minded, and easy to best in any deal. In fact, putting one over on Westerners is a source of national pride. This, of course, means that Xi is under tremendous pressure, because people have to wonder why he is having so much trouble with President Trump. Could it be that not all Americans are dumb? Or is it that Xi is simply not up to the task?

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    • RF121, Blitherer in Chief says:

      Xi is just not used to push back. Does not make anyone dumb, just not used to this way of business.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Go back and watch the video Sundance posted as 1st comment. Listen to the whole clip (not long). They talk about what makes PDJT different than other Presidents / Trade negotiators when it comes to China.

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    • cripto says:

      Actually, emet you make a good point. Around 2008, the Chinese inner party ( Standing Committee under the Chairman Revanchist Mao 2.0) concluded that the US was weak, and this was time to assert the policy of ‘Globalism with Chinese characteristics’. The end of the “American Century”. Thus the manufacturing and global supply chain capture, with ports and cheap infrastructure deals with undeveloped nations with weak political wherewithal. The CCP, truly believes that the US is a damaged, and retreating power. That is why the push on all fronts, from monetary, trade, and arming the reclaimed islands in the SCS.

      They are in for a bit of surprise.

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      • pyromancer76 says:

        They probably were told these very ideas by the big 0 — here, take ‘er down. She’s all yours. The Clintons softened up the country for the kill. I think George W. leased the first port to them.

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        • cripto says:

          It doesn’t matter, what I have seen from the CCP reports at their meetings, they believe a structural change has taken place, thus the risible analysis that the US is weak and a ‘fading’ empire. The President is pushing back. But the CCP Central committee sees this as a weakness,

          Not my take, just trying to let you know how they think, thus their policy choices. They need a a real awakening, It is coming, let’s see how they respond. I am looking forward to this G20 meeting.

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      • lemmus1 says:

        …only if Trump succeeds

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      • Tottie Mitchell says:

        Thank you for describing your personal experience in China. Comments like this make us all wiser.

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      • Tottie Mitchell says:

        Speaking of ports. In 2016, when Greece needed to privatize its assets, the only bidder for the Port of Pireaus was COSCO. This Chinese company acquired 51% of the listed Pireaus Port Authority. Strategically speaking, I sure wish the US had also placed a bid.

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    • Free Speech says:

      Our problem isn’t dumbness. It’s corruption and the complete loss of our moral compass as a nation. In fact, politically speaking, the ‘smarter’ people are in this country (in terms of IQ and education), the more Democrat they tend to vote. Higher academia is now convinced man created God and not vice versa. The problem is morals, not brains.

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  13. TNGal says:

    Are Americans willing to support the Chinese and unwilling to support our own manufacturing so we have a few more dollars in our pockets? Why would we want to support a regime which is going to spy on its citizens and determine if they have enough “points” to merit riding on public transit? Is this not the regime which terminates pregnancies for Baby #2? What is wrong with Americans who are willing to support China and its horrible human rights records? Trump should bring those issues up, too.

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    • RF121, Blitherer in Chief says:

      The average citizen only knows what it costs to shop at Walmart. If the price goes up they bitch. Politics is the last thing they think about. People at the Treehouse are woke and know. We are just a tiny minority.

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    • lemmus1 says:

      “spy on its citizens and determine if they have enough “points” to merit riding on public transit? Is this not the regime which terminates pregnancies for Baby #2? ”

      …unfortunately, there are a LOT of progressives who would absolutely love to see both of those agendas implemented here in America 😦

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    • GB Bari says:

      Think of the average age of parents with families these days; when they were born, when they became adults and aware of the world out there and the cost of living versus their own salaries……

      Most parents of families today came of age after NAFTA and the Globalist takeover of the American economy. These parents have no knowledge of life before that paradigm. Cheap imported consumer goods; hardly any Americans manufacturing any consumer goods.

      It was the Walmartization of America. Local stores are almost gone other than specialty shops which most families don’t shop at constantly for their basic needs. They shop at “big box” stores where everything says Made in China or somewhere other than “USA”.

      Most of theses younger folks are not being prepared to buy American made goods where the cost is higher because fellow Americans are making them and earning living wages that can support their families too. The disconnect will be rough for awhile.

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    • Why would Americans import from an AVOWED ENEMY committed to stealing our Economic Lifeblood and Ruling over the Carcass like a Slave Master?

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      • GB Bari says:

        Because ……

        1. We’ve been told since the late ‘80s that China is great trading partner. Joined WTO; given MFN status. Consumers weren’t reminded how dangerous that communist country was and is. Government and Globalist Media lulled consumers into a false peace. The “new normal” as Obozo put it.

        2. We also didn’t have a choice after the manufacturing industry packed up and abandoned this country and moved to the Far East, Mexico, and anywhere else the Globalists could increase their profits.

        Hopefully more consumers will wake up to the economic boom, the reality of why it’s happening, and understand that “buy American” is far more than a slogan.

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  14. FAIR-MINDED:
    • USA runs a $500 Billion TRADE SURPLUS with China for the next 20 years.
    • China cedes another $600 Billion annually in Chinese Intellectual Property without objection.
    • USA builds artificial islands for Mega-Bases alongside Taiwan.

    Happy, now, China?
    ART of the DEAL.

    RE: “Beijing wants a deal, just as Washington does. And it is willing to cooperate with Washington in dealing with concerns about trade if they are fair-minded,” the paper said.

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    • WSB says:

      Clawback, baby!

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    • michaelh says:

      RE: “Beijing wants a deal, just as Washington does. And it is willing to cooperate with Washington in dealing with concerns about trade if they are fair-minded,” the paper said.

      Agent Smeeeeth: We’re willing to wipe the slate clean, give you a fresh start. All that we’re asking in return is your cooperation [in negotiate a fair-minded deal].
      Neo: Yeah. Well, that sounds like a pretty good deal. But I think I may have a better one. How about, I give you the finger … and you [convert completely and irreversibly to free markets].

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  15. Ghost says:

    Observations from a smaller limb.

    Thought I’d share this report about China.

    “The manufacturing purchasing managers index continued falling, dropping to the 50.0 level which marks the divide between expansion and contraction. New export orders improved slightly, though still contracting for a sixth month, while the non-manufacturing gauge, reflecting activity in the construction and services sectors, worsened to 53.4. “

    Full article at

    https://www.bloombergquint.com/global-economics/china-november-manufacturing-pmi-worsens-amid-trade-war

    Just posted on another thread but think this is where it should be.
    Smile!

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  16. MIKE says:

    Coming soon, to a theatre near you

    Deriverance

    Starring Don Reynolds and Xi Beatty

    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/bf86e92c-b8d8-40d4-9e0f-32a66f9017e0

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  17. Kent says:

    …what the panda means is that it wants continued special status and trade imbalances so it can use American money to expand its empire and ideology…

    China needs to be shut down and now…

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      • Dutchman says:

        And DJT is just the man, in just the right position, with just the right team, to do it. (Shut down China)
        And hence in a # of posts, I have expressed some, …doubt ss to whether VSG actually expects to get a deal with China, or BREAK China?

        I SUSPECT he is going to try to ‘channel’ Reagan, with USSR. He can continue this, with MORE tarriffs, then transfer MFN status to India.
        A DEMOCRACY, also with Billions of workers. China is screwed, THEY know it, HE knows it and other than continueing to have their minions bite at his heels (which seems to have no effect) or starting a ‘hot’ war with U.S., (which does NOTHING to benefit China) WHAT can China DO about it?

        Being a VSG, he’s got to know the consequences, if CHINA agrees to his terms; Hobsons choice.

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  18. Rynn69 says:

    All that can be said is do not underestimate President Donald J. Trump.

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    • tucker7518 says:

      Trump will come back with a framework or some type of deal. The crap about Cohen seemed to tick him off.

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      • Eilert says:

        I did not get the impression that the Cohen crap deems to tick him off. Watch the impromptu presser. He seemed very confident and in control, as if he knew this was coming.

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  19. WVPatriot says:

    elmo, you are 100% correct.

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  20. vigiles24 says:

    If the Chinese want to play cultural games with pandas and dragons, let them do that with other Asian countries who are inclined to consider such abstractions. We are not an Asian country. We have American values and that’s what we bring to the table.

    The Chinese are thieves, and they need to be held accountable for what they’ve stolen. Frankly, considering their record on human rights and their persecution of Christians, I don’t know why we have anything to do with them.

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    • JmkNY says:

      If you want to stop the intellectual property theft you also have to start choking off and limiting legal immigration from China. 60% of foreign students at universities are Chinese. Colleges love them because they pay full price. But those are spots American kids don’t get. They are stealing research data from the projects that are ongoing at the university. Then there are all the pregnant women sent to the US on tourist visas to drop a kid on US soil. China is a communist country that is implementing their “social scores”. Anyone with an ounce of logic should realize that only loyal citizens are allowed to “emigrate”. The Chinese government is laughing their a$$es off at our stupidity for admitting their students, hiring their nationals in banks, the social security administration, NIH, companies etc. and everything is funneled back home to China. Everything.

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      • railer says:

        This. The University Industrial Complex is bedded down tight with the cash flow they soak up from China (and others). The UIC is not a friend of MAGA. The UIC harms this country in many, many ways. It’s too massive a problem to be addressed right now, but it’s out there.

        Trump’s approaching education and training from a vocational perspective, and I welcome this. It’s what we need to build and support a broad based economy to include manufacturing. We focus on giving people real skills that pay real money, not SJW nonsense. This can have the added effect of partially draining the UIC swamp. Perhaps we can take further measures down the road, like holding up federal funding to the UIC unless they act like we want. It’s sort of like these Sanctuary Cities, we may need to change federal law to impact their cash flow some, to make them modify their behavior.

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        • The Other Sean says:

          Never forget that in his farewell address, President Eisenhower warned of the potential dangers of academia immediately after his warning about the the military-industrial complex.

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      • westray hazzard says:

        Sad, but so true. Romans 7:21-25…hopefully President Trump and his team will prevail.

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    • LookUp says:

      Finally! Someone who thinks just like me!

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  21. wodiej says:

    Love the pictures of Trump’s team depicted as ferocious animals.

    The bottom line is China would not be rich without the blatant unfair trade practices that have been allowed for decades. They have no labor laws to protect Chinese workers and thus work for chump change. There is no downside for us if China does not comply with PT.

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  22. railer says:

    There is no question that China is stealing madly. It’s important to distinguish the types of theft though. Outright espionage is one thing and should be prosecuted under existing US law. The forced technology transfers are a completely different thing though. These involve multinational corporations signing foolish agreements voluntarily. And the decisions they made in forming these 51% Chinese owned corporations is the root cause of the “forced technology transfers”. Don’t sign those deals and there will be no “forced technology transfers”.

    These same multinationals who stripped our (and Mexico’s) industrial base are now squealing that they need our help. I have zero compassion for the multinationals on this. They have acted in bad faith. They have done economic harm to us. They have helped corrupt our politicians. They have manipulated NAFTA to transship their China-partners’ goods into the US. Their perverse zeal to get to China on our backs is nothing short of treason, if you could charge a soulless multinational corporation with treason. I can see Trump negotiating publicly and not blaming these multinationals publicly, and keeping the focus on China. It’s best strategy for the US. But make no mistake, behind closed doors that’s what he needs to be saying to these Wall Street crooks driving this. You screwed up. You need to stop screwing up. The pain you endure as a result of MAGA, as you’re forced to reallocate capital away from your Chinese “partners”, is something you brought upon yourselves and cannot impact our decisionmaking. We’re going to fix your “forced technology transfer” problem, but be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

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  23. Marlene says:

    Forgive my ignorance, but It was only recently while reading an animal behavior book that I found out the because Pandas live in basic solitude that they have no facial expressions to speak of. They don’t need to use facial expressions to communicate at all. Is that what is meant here about the “panda face”? Expressionless?

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  24. jeans2nd says:

    As long as Attack Wolverine is going, all is well. imo Thank goodness POTUS changed his mind about leaving any behind.
    And that is Professor Doctor Peter Navarro, PhD, tyvm 😉
    ooo to be a fly on the wall…

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  25. MattyIce says:

    “Should there be any other aspirations, such as taking advantage of the trade spat to throttle Chinese growth, then an agreement is unlikely to be reached.”

    Translation: Should you negotiate with leverage that China will suffer without a trade deal, then China says no trade deal.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha, Ok, China.

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  26. Mr. T. says:

    “””Does Xi feel rucky?”””

    Sundance, that was a pretty rousy comment. You could have been nicer and wished them rots of ruck.

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  27. Wayne Robinson says:

    Fair is a loaded word . China can not befair it is impossible for them . They only serve their self intrest and will never accept blame for their crimes against American companies they are a corruptevil empire period . President Trump needs tohold China responsible for their crimes of theft through hacking and penalize them foreverytime a computer is breached within America by any Chinese linked computer including from north Korea

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  28. rustybritches says:

    Will someone enlighten me about what the Saudi Prince is mad at the President about ?and why is Putin and the Saudi King Hi fiving each other? Did Putin pull a fast one by helping the Saudi even though the President said they were not going to pull the Ammo deal away from them..

    This morning on Fox they said the Farmers was angary at the President because the Soy Beans and the Corn is rotting in the fields because of the Tariffs and they don’t see anything being done I think I remember when the Gov was paying these people not to raise anything and they didn’t so We need to give the President a little more time. It will get done, blame Ryan for not getting off his back side and getting the Farm bill done and McConnell

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  29. Bill Henslee says:

    The Red Dragon recently announced that some of the tariffs they put on US goods would be repealed. A ploy leading from strength and good will? Probably not. The centrally managed Chinese economy was steered into high tech products and other prestigious manufactures. They forgot to produce simple things like toilet paper and food. They are finding that they cannot wipe with computers or eat steel. How embarrassing. Trump has a lot of leverage in these talks and I believe he is strong enough to use it. All the while flattering Xi for coming up with a solution fair to both countries.

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