Everything surrounding the “disappearance”, perhaps “murder”, of Saudi critic/journalist Jamal Khashoggi screams manufactured geopolitical propaganda. All current narrative indications are pushing in one direction. Here are the warning flags:
♦Flag #1 – Jamal Khashoggi in self-exile, worked for The Washington Post, and was hiding behind ‘residency’ in the U.S. WaPo is a notorious left-wing intelligence propaganda outlet for the most politicized elements within the U.S. intelligence apparatus.
♦Flag #2 – Turkey (Recep Erdogan) pushing the narrative. Erdogan is a notorious liar when it comes to his interests, and a master manipulator. Turkey/Erdogan is the most openly staunch supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and has a self-interest in distracting/deflecting U.S. economic pressure from their ongoing relationship with Iran.
♦Flag #3 – Saudi Arabia [Mohamed Bin Salman (MbS)] has been instituting political and cultural reforms that are antithetical to the advanced objectives of the Muslim Brotherhood, Recep Erdogan (wants new Ottoman Empire), and extreme Islam.
♦Flag #4 – The voices behind the U.S. push to promote the Jamal Khashoggi story are all aligned in one purposeful and ideological direction. Former Obama officials including: John Brennan, Samantha Power, Valerie Jarrett et al, are all pushing the story in a transparent effort to create division between the U.S. and KSA and by extension benefit their Muslim Brotherhood and Iranian allies.
♦Flag #5 – The left-wing, highly political, intelligence apparatus – and all DC interests are joined by the notorious right-wing members of the UniParty war machine. [Rubio, Sasse, Flake, Schumer, Menendez, et al] Together with the exact same left-wing media voices (right and left), and all the political ‘think-tanks’, who advance the DC drumbeat. Yes, the gang is all back together again in their high-brow pontification of ‘muh values‘.
♦Flag #6 – The story is being pushed into U.S. media outlets by a notorious Muslim Brotherhood mouthpiece, Khaled Saffuri:
[I]n the past 24 hours we now have a glimpse of exactly who is feeding the establishment media reporting on the Khashoggi matter — including at least one source who was tied to a joint Libyan intelligence and al-Qaeda plot to assassinate the Saudi crown prince.
Khaled Saffuri is the protege of al-Qaeda fundraiser Abdurahman Alamoudi, who is currently serving a 17-year sentence in federal prison for his role as bagman for the Libyan/Al-Qaeda assassination plot. (read more)
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Having worked with the Saudis for 20+ yrs I have a different perspective than most Western thinkers. Khashoggi is to the royal family/rulers as Osama bin Laden was to the U.S. government. What did we do to Osama? When you are dealing with Middle-Eastern logic and mentality you have to think they way they do which is 180 degrees – polar opposite as Western mind think. We happen to think we’re the only ones on the globe and what we do is the right thing. Well, it may come as a little shock that that other nations/peoples/tribes think differently than we do and we can’t quite figure out their logic. Not real smart on our part.
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So he’s been served up as fish food? 😉
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Rich,
I totally agree. The mindset in many of these countries is quite different than the reasoned, truth-based rule of law approach that was developed in Western countries descended from the Roman tradition. That is not, of course, to say the individuals cannot reason or tell the truth–far from it. But adherence to honesty as a virtue is honored only in the breach, in my experience from many trips in M.E. and Asia. Part of this is conflict avoidance (much prefer to tell a fib, or lie, than admit the truth).
In the Middle East allegiances are quite complicated as well. Khashoggi’s uncle was the notorious arms dealer, Adnan Khashoggi, hardly a white hat exemplar.
As my husband and I discussed, there really are no white hats in the Middle East, just shades of gray. We need to tread very carefully and get a lot more facts, instead of allowing ourselves to be manipulated by players here with specific goals in their home countries (such as occurred in the Iraq war, for ex.)
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So, apart from your very wordy response and self-aggrandizement, you have absolutely nothing to add. In other words, you appear to be a Concern Troll.
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And another thing: I am so sick of hearing from Jeff Flake. Senator Flake, you’ve said and done enough. Shut up and go pack.
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Well, let’s for the moment assume that MBS was involved. How does that negate our common interests we have in trying to halt Iranian (and Shi’te)expansionism into Arab (Sunni) areas? We abandoned them over an internal Sunni matter? After all where was the outcry when Oliar has an American citizen droned without due process? That was an internal US matter conducted on foreign soil, was it not? This is not to justify anyone’s murder just pointing out realpolitic realities. Also the POTUS had nothing to do with one, quite a bit with the other.
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Without knowing anything else, knowing that the Media, Democrats, Turkey and Brennan are all pushing the same narrative means the chances of the narrative being true is as close to 0 as you can get.
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What about this guy? He was connected to the WSJ journalist who was in the news with connections heavily reliant upon Iran sanctions being relieved. I read some stuff where he and some of his partners orchestrated Riots in Kuwait where he spoke of Billion’s of dollars at stake and other countries in the past….. just like we are seeing here in the US today. And yes he was Tied into CGI and a HRC and Bill Bundler…. tied into Gun running, etc supposed Mob Ties, etc…. I am sure he is being looked into most notably because of his Iran Deals… what is the Farhad Azima connection with the CGI and the middle east, Iran, deals etc.
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Leave the Saudis to clean their own laundry. This is none of our concerns. If you want human rights and fairness look to China, Russia, Zombabewey, the IK Tommy Robinson, Germany with Muslim rapists. Venezuela, ?Nicaragua.
Now the left wants to make an issue of this spy working in Saudi, COME OFF IT. Like we should care! HA.
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Washington Post = CoIntel Post
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Has this made the front page of the Kos Kidz yet?
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so what have we learned in the last month? We have learned that these so called intelligence agencies aren’t really that intelligent. Ford, Vegas, 60 minutes, etc., etc., etc. All that money, all that professional talent and the stuff they come up with is just stupid. They get away with it because they can.
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It seems that he was really murdered by the Saudis and are ready to admit it.
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Looks like the Saudis are fessing up to it. Of course, it was an unauthorized interrogation that went wrong. Sure.
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yeah the deep state tricked the Saudis and entered the consulate and did it and MSM is putting pressure. just because 110billion and loads of money is at stake we must not dismiss our Christian values and be on the defensive.
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Oops “this” should be this
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/271623/jamal-khashoggi-media-fights-muslim-brotherhood-daniel-greenfield
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Sorry. Wrong spot for that comment.
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🙂 Another human error, just like I often make.
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After seeing this yesterday, and your article today, I’m beginning to think most likely… “Not our dog. Not our fight.”
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Huh?
How did that happen?
Try again,
Oops “this” should be this
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/271623/jamal-khashoggi-media-fights-muslim-brotherhood-daniel-greenfield
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Wow. That is a must read!
I’m going to step out on a limb here, after reading that article, because one paragraph caught my attention.
“And the politicians shrilly urging that we punish the Saudis never thought about curtailing arms sales to Turkey. Many of the same politicians were unhappy when President Trump used economic pressure on Erdogan in an effort to free American hostages, like Pastor Andrew Brunson, being held by Turkey.”
I can’t help wondering about that. These two events are linked closely in time. Did the Turks, fueled with revenge of having to give up Brunson, think that they could force a situation where Trump would have to impose economic pressure or curtail weapon sales to KSA.
Whatever, Jamal’s disappearance in the consulate is as realistic as Christine Ford’s testimony. Clumsy and 100% not believable.
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I just hope Trump isn’t suckered into doing something stupid.
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Sorry, done did the sword dance. Oh, the shark has pretty teeth, dear
And he shows ’em, pearly white…
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Got those words wrong probably but everyone knows the song I’m talking about
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https://youtu.be/SOoaOFBHRXo hats of to Graham for being honest. Judas sold our God for 30 pieces of silver and in the end met his fate. We must stand for the truth and ask them to come clean. Disappointing. Been a most staunch Trump supporter have been able to see Obama’s play right from dec2016 when he betrayed Israel and then the Russia diplomats explosions and followed by Christopher Steele. My gut tells me their money is too good to resist. This would prove my friends right and me wrong on the Saudi support and Kushner.
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Graham’s statement saddens me, and has now made me skeptical of his motives for jumping on the Trump train.
I’m now remembering his BFF relationship with McStain, and McStain’s love affair with terrorists and the cozy photos of McStain with the terrorists.
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The deep state jumped the shark with this October surprise. Bone saws? Dissolving him in acid? They’re stealing scripts from Breaking Bad now. So let me get this straight….MBS inks a 110B arms deal with the US, then turns around and sends a 15 man hit squad to whack a WAPO journalist in Turkey….with witnesses in the building, surveillance video and audio recordings? Then has the cleaning crew show up just before the reporters?
The story is almost as ridiculous as the clueless sheep that believe it….and then blame Trump.
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https://youtu.be/E4u11Q3HuGQ. Actually the only sheep are the who are willing to accept the most far fetched theory that is unlikely. There is no chance the deep state or enemies could organize this in Saudis consulate.Trump/US doesnt need their money and need to cover for them. God will usher in money for the ones true to him. So far Trump has had God protection and has beaten the colluders. We dont need lies or excuses.
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