Trey Gowdy’s Recent Activity Highlights Deep State Action Against Devin Nunes…

Something has become increasingly weird about the DOJ and FBI intransigence at releasing the two-page “Electronic Communication” (“EC”) that was written by CIA Director John Brennan to initiate the July 2016 FBI Counterintelligence operation against the campaign of presidential candidate Donald Trump.

The weird something is: According to CIA Director John Brennan’s May 2017 testimony he personally briefed the Gang of Eight members, including Devin Nunes, “individually” in 2016, on that origination document.  As such, in 2018 Devin Nunes would only be seeking a review of a document he was already briefed on.

Now think about this.

Why would the U.S. intelligence apparatus be withholding physical documents from Devin Nunes that supposedly would contain the same information previously briefed?

It just doesn’t make sense….. unless.  Well, unless, the Brennan origination document and the briefing Brennan gave to House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, don’t match.

Which leads to another reconciliation of behavior by the administrative state.  If it is indeed true the Brennan EC doesn’t match the briefing, there would have been a specific motive for entities within the usurping enterprise to remove Nunes from the origin of the ‘insurance policy‘ execution phase.  Which, factually, is exactly what happened.

Removing Nunes allows the placement of a control agent.  The DC process of putting a strategic political person at the center of the known risk is very familiar.  Accepting the latest developments against the known activity within the ‘Spygate’ issue, it is likely that control agent was/is Trey Gowdy for all the aforementioned reasons.

Additionally, accepting U.S. Person Carter Page was used to gain a FISA warrant to conduct surveillance upon the Trump campaign, and post-election the Trump transition team, the fact that HPSCI Chairman Devin Nunes was on the transition team beginning around November 11th, 2016, likely means Nunes was under FBI and DOJ surveillance for the duration of the FISA Title-1 surveillance warrant until it expired late October 2017.

Again, think about it.  Chairman Devin Nunes was presumably briefed in August/September, 2016, by the CIA Director who was facilitating the origination of contact with all foreign agents and operatives assisting in the Spygate endeavor.

A few months ago (April 2018), Chairman Devin Nunes, speaking about the origination of the counterintelligence operation, stated: “There Were No Official Intelligence Channels Used To Start Trump Investigation”WATCH:

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The origin of the 2016 counterintelligence operation, which was specifically started by CIA Director John Brennan sharing his ‘raw intelligence product’ with the FBI, was not an official product of the U.S. intelligence community. According to Devin Nunes information Brennan was NOT using official partnerships with intelligence agencies of our Five-Eyes partner nations; and he did not provide raw intelligence -as an outcome of those relationships- to the FBI.

QUESTION: Then what exactly did John Brennan brief the Gang-of-Eight on?

On May 23rd, 2017, Former CIA Director John Brennan gave very specific testimony to congress where he noted he provided the raw intelligence to FBI Director Comey – FULLSTOP.  We now know Stefan Halper was part of the group assembling that raw intelligence.  All of it was, as Nunes outlined, “through unofficial channels”.

Listen carefully to the opening statement from former CIA Director John Brennan May 23rd, 2017, during his testimony to congress. Pay very close attention to the segment at 13:35 of this video of Brennan’s testimony:

Brennan: [13:35] “Third, through the so-called Gang-of-Eight process we kept congress apprised of these issues as we identified them.”

“Again, in consultation with the White House, I PERSONALLY briefed the full details of our understanding of Russian attempts to interfere in the election to congressional leadership; specifically: Senators Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein and Richard Burr; and to representatives Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Devin Nunes and Adam Schiff between 11th August and 6th September [2016], I provided the same briefing to each of the gang of eight members.”

“Given the highly sensitive nature of what was an active counter-intelligence case [that means the FBI], involving an ongoing Russian effort, to interfere in our presidential election, the full details of what we knew at the time were shared only with those members of congress; each of whom was accompanied by one senior staff member.”…

In the last paragraph of the testimony above Brennan is describing raw intelligence gathered prior to the Carter Page FISA Application/Warrant (October 21st, 2016).

In hindsight, and against the known facts from research, we can clearly identify two central motives surrounding why the intelligence apparatus needed the FISA warrant. First, the FBI and larger team of co-conspirators needed to have a retroactive legal basis for political surveillance that was happening long before the warrant was issued.   Second, this was all part of an insurance policy to create the illusion of a Russian Conspiracy – that would later be used -if needed- in an effort to eliminate President Trump.

The unlawful foundational FBI surveillance, which happened prior to October 2016, included the use of unauthorized FISA-702 queries of the NSA and FBI database for political opposition research by contractors. Again, much like the unofficial origin of the Stefan Halper raw intelligence that began the July 2016 counterintelligence op, the FISA(702) abuse was simply more ‘unofficial’ use of the intelligence apparatus.

Once the FBI Counterintelligence operation began, it was the FBI (Comey) and ODNI (Clapper) generating intel reports, likely included in the Presidents’ Daily Briefing (PDB), as evidenced by Page and Strzok messages saying: “POTUS wants to know what we’re doing”.

The CIA provided the false raw intel, via Stefan Halper, to start the operation, and the FBI and DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) generated the raw monitoring intelligence from the characters identified by the CIA, FBI, DOJ-NSD and approved by FBI FISA-Title 1 warrant submissions.

The FBI were running the counter-intelligence operation and generating the actual reports that were eventually shared with the White House, Susan Rice and the Dept of Justice.  That’s why all the unmasking requests. Those reports, or interpretations of the report content, were leaked to the media by political operatives in the IC (and specifically FBI) throughout the deployment of the “insurance policy”, by Lisa Page, Mike Kortan, James Baker and Peter Strzok – with the guiding hand of Andy McCabe.

During the time James Comey’s FBI was generating the intelligence reports, Comey admitted he intentionally never informed congressional oversight: “because of the sensitivity of the matter“.

In his congressional testimony John Brennan was smartly (and intentionally) positioning himself out of the picture from the perspective of the illegal acts within the entire process. ODNI James Clapper while rubbing his face and scratching his head had taken the same route earlier. That approach would leave James Comey, Andrew McCabe and the small group within the DOJ-NSD and FBI.

The CIA and DNI wanted all traceable fingerprints to be from DOJ and FBI.  And that’s exactly what happened…. so far.

In his May 2017 testimony, Director Brennan goes on to say the main substance of those Gang of Eight briefings (2016) was the same as the main judgements of the January 2017 classified and unclassified Russian intelligence assessments published by the CIA, FBI, DNI and NSA (intelligence community).

FBI Director James Comey Comey made a March 20th, 2017, admission to congress that the FBI intentionally kept congress in the dark during the construct of the counter-intel narrative.

Congress was kept in the dark during this phase because the narrative can only thrive with innuendo, rumor, gossip etc. The appearance of the investigation itself was the political need; the substance was non-existent and immaterial to the creation of the narrative.

If Comey notified congress, via the Gang of Eight oversight, the counter-intel narrative would have been harder to manufacture as details would have to be consistent; and people like Devin Nunes would know what was going on.  That was the benefit to keeping any oversight away while creating the politically useful narrative.

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849 Responses to Trey Gowdy’s Recent Activity Highlights Deep State Action Against Devin Nunes…

  1. wjb105 says:

    Are they looking for a way (a spin) to wrap up the Mueller investigation?

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  2. noswamp says:

    May 30, 2018.Rep.Trey Gowdy, “I don’t think so, I think what the President is doing is expressing frustration that Attorney General Sessions should have shared these reasons for recusal before he took the job, not afterward. If I were the President and I picked someone to be the country’s……..chief law enforcement officer, and they told me later, ‘oh by the way I’m not going to be able to participate in the most important case in the office, I would be frustrated too…and that’s how I read that – Senator Sessions, why didn’t you tell me before I picked you…..
    There are lots of really good lawyers in the country, he could have picked somebody else!” (TRUMP):And I wish I did!
    “The recusal of Jeff Sessions was an unforced betrayal of the President of the United States.” JOE DIGENOVA, former U.S. Attorney.- May 30, 2018

    May 30, 2018, when it was confirmed that Sessions, Gowdy, Rubio and others in Congress were black hats. RINOS. And when it was confirmed that Graham and Trey were democrats, not republicans. Expect more hits from Trump on Trey Traitor and Little Marco Rubio. Both compromised men.

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  3. Piggy says:

    Bet this whole thing was Brennan’s idea to begin with. Many of the other people involved are quite incompetent and I doubt are the initiators of this garbage. Brennan is manipulative. Comey very much looks like the intended “fall guy”. The “Comey is a Boy Scout” bs from Leftists is not a compliment it’s a tell.

    I can be patient. I want all of them in jail and if having to wait to lock them all up so be it.

    Can add Gowdy to the “Go to Jail” list.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Comey is willfully naive. And yet so transparent.

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    • doug says:

      I 100% believe this whole conspiracy BEGAN with Brennan and Obama allies in late early (Jan/Feb 2016). First with NSA database searches, and most likely on ALL GOP candidates. I give a better then 50% chance that Mifsud was sent to plant “Russia russia russia” into the Trump orbit.

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    • David R. Graham says:

      If it was Brennan’s idea, it was the Moslem Brotherhood’s idea, which means it was to help Iran and Turkey. Anybody thought where Turkish Intel might be in this, also Ukrainian Intel? Turk Intel is disposed to treat American soil as their own and American law as irrelevant.

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  4. mike croft says:

    I got this off of “Big League Politics” (I wish Sundance or one of our experts could give easy explaination)

    A Thanos-Level Event

    For months pundits and researchers have been pondering the mystery of the FISA approval that led to the illegal and historically titanic scandals to ever hit the U.S. government. Some have argued that Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein knew the FISA was bogus when he extended it. Others have wondered if Special Counsel Robert Mueller knew about the fraudulent basis of the FISA when he used it, in part, to indict Michael Flynn. Other still, that Mueller was fooled by the FBI.

    This is what President Trump calls “SPYGATE”.

    It may well be that the surveillance that was conducted began with UK intelligence
    services and then was fed back to the White House of Barack Obama. Here’s the kicker:
    President Barack Obama did not need a FISA warrant to authorize spying/electronic surveillance on Trump because Obama all along had legal authorization to by-pass the normal court vetting process. According to 50 U.S. Code 1802, the “Electronic Surveillance Authorization” () “Foreign intelligence in relation to a US person (Trump or his associates) is information that’s necessary for the US to protect against attack, hostile acts, sabotage, . . . as well as other clandestine activities by a foreign power . . . OR . . . information relevant to national defense/security of the US, or the conduct of foreign affairs of the U.S.” Such an authorization by Obama required certification by Attorney General Loretta Lynch that must be logged with the FISC court. (“The [AG]+ shall immediately transmit under seal to the court [FISC] a copy of his certification.”)

    In short, the DOJ has this. If we are correct, a copy of that certification is currently under
    seal at least with the DOJ and the FISC. This is what they are hiding. However, the Act requires the AG to keep the Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Committee on Intelligence informed of these authorizations and unmaskings therein. See 1803 (a) (1) (C) If indeed this is what happened, did Lynch report—or only selectively report—to the committees in a way that excluded non-friendlies? Can you see why Adam Schiff, Mark Warner, and their ilk are terrified?

    1) Obama authorized spying/electronic surveillance on Team Trump, by-passing normal
    judicial oversight.
    2) To create “foreign intelligence,” John Brennan and others organized for UK
    intelligence to conduct surveillance on Trump and his associates, either from the UK or from UK assets within the U.S. This is another reason revealing this will unleash an excrement storm: the UK is about to be caught meddling bigly in an American election.
    3) Lynch certified Obama’s authorization which is now held under seal by DOJ (and
    FISC).

    From this authorization, all unmaking followed, as well as the FBI fraudulent counter
    intel investigation and perhaps the FISA warrant too. Obama knew this was all fake when he made the authorization; Lynch knew it was fake when she certified it; the entire inner circle, including the FBI, all knew. This takes the U.S. into uncharted territory, and could imperil any politician in the British government who supported this or had knowledge of it. Proving any of this would be difficult, as if confronted Lynch would almost certainly cover up and Obama would simply deny knowledge. Without a paper trail, a conviction might be a bridge to far.

    Sara Carter reported that concealed FISA documents hold the key—not because they were
    the origin of SPYGATE but because each new application had to include earlier supporting
    intelligence, i.e., Obama’s authorization. And the director of the British surveillance agency,
    GCHQ, Robert Hannigan, quit three days after Trump’s inauguration for “personal” and “health” reasons.

    Now the seeming stonewalling of DOJ, Jeff Sessions, and Rod Rosenstein make sense.
    Now it is clear why President Trump has not just himself declassified these materials. This is a TLE. A Thanos Level Event.

    It suggests Sessions and others are wrestling with a massively disruptive chain of revelations that will approximate those of 1861, namely what do you do with a criminal ex-president? Larry Schweikart has discussed elsewhere how no impeachment of a former public official is necessary to indict, arrest, and/or punish such a person. Former Vice President Aaron Burr was arrested and charged with treason by President Thomas Jefferson in 1807 (he was acquitted for lack of evidence). Of course, more recently, former Vice President Spiro Agnew was not impeached before pleading no contest to a felony charge of tax evasion and sentenced to three years probation.

    Such a Thanos Level Event might also explain Robert Mueller’s odd and inexplicable
    behavior of running hither and yon, achieving virtually nothing. If he knew as well, he is
    probably just as baffled as the DOJ as to how to proceed in a job that implicates the former
    president in everything Mueller touches. The implications are staggering. One side will rightly demand justice be done, no matter who the culprit. Another side will insist that such a prosecution would “tear the country apart” and do irreparable harm to race relations. Both sides are right, but if we are correct and Barack Obama is not just the end-game point of approval, but the jumping off platform for the entire scandal?

    Thanos wouldn’t even recognize the rubble when all of this is over.

    REX is an anonymous Twtter analyst who wishes to remain . . . anonymous. Larry Schweikart is the co-author of A Patriot’s History of the United States (with Michael Allen) and How Trump Won (with Joel Pollak).

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    • Pete says:

      I agree with everything you expressed, except your last few sentences. Obama and his private army of ms-13, illegals, Muslim brotherhood, communists, criminals, socialist, corrupt media, and basement millennial are NOT going to be a problem. Sure, Soros and the Rothchilds will pay for a few riots, and the Russians will help along with the Iranians, but it will end very quickly when the good guys drop the hammer. I am NOT afraid of them, and I believe the threats are hollow, or will only awaken a sleeping giant.

      The American people can deal with the truth, they have stood tall and endured in the truth many times. Those whom fear the truth are not friends of the Constitution, and truly don’t want freedom.

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      • I agree. Sunlight sterilizes and the truth shall set us free. What better way to discredit all those who have been pushing the lies….give them truth.

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        • Lesa Roberts says:

          I don’t think you will find Obummer’s name on anything. They surely step up degrees of deniablity. But I do wonder if the fisa judges are a part of the conspiracy. Why have they not called the signers before them for presenting false evidence? Is Contreras the one who ok’d the warrant on a American citizen?

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      • dbobway says:

        The Communist left are a bunch of bumbling fools with a large helping of ignorance.
        I read a speech Jordan Peterson had in Houston recently.
        He made a statement about Marxist’s Communism.
        When Communism takes hold of a country? To all the people under this evil,
        “Either submit or die”
        It started out that way in Russia and has never changed in it’s history.
        Who could wish for that?

        People with no virtue and no moral clarity,
        That’s who!

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      • Kris says:

        I agree, I think we “older generation” have been suspect since the assassination of Bobby, Martin & John. The school shootings recently have a similar MO, re: finding patsies to do the dirty deeds and they end up getting life sentences or “knocked off” like another patsy, Ruby. This Deep State goes way back, it is very deep and will take more than PT to drain this swamp, I fear, if ever, at least probably not in my lifetime!

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      • mr.piddles says:

        Well, there is certainly ONE reason to not be afraid of “them”: they’re a motley crew of misfits. Can’t get out of their own way.

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      • Cheesehead54016 says:

        Agree. Lets proceed to break it open and provide sunlight. All hands on deck.

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      • Amy2 says:

        Great read. Will we see CNN spouting, Britain! Britain! Britain! Kinda late on the payback UK. “Let justice prevail thought the heavens fall.”

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      • mutantbeast says:

        “awaken a sleeping giant” Admiral Isidoro Yamatos exact quote after finding out that the Japanese embassay had sent there war warning to the US after Pearl was bombed. Yamamoto, who was not in favor of a war with the US because he knew Japan couldnt win, turned out to be prophetic. Well, Islam has never won in the long run either and NEVER will, niether wil communism, because both ideolgies breed DUMMIES. TaKE THE rUSSIANS , for instance, som e of the best military therorists in the world, but they dont have the soldiers with the brains to carry them out. Ditto, Islam.

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    • Mike- thanks for this most excellent post. There is a lot to think about here.

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    • beach lover says:

      This is probably closer to the truth than anything i have read explained. It fits with the hesitancy by Trump, Sessions and many others. But, I think it must all come out and the American Public needs to find out what and who were involved, even if some were what we considered “white hats”.

      If not now.. when? We will see democracy slink back into the swamp for generations.

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    • singular says:

      Thank you, Mike. That is a great post and I am going to that site to look around.

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    • Jederman says:

      If true, why should we hand our children and their’s a scheisse sandwich? If our generation has found itself in this situation what lasting good comes from taking the “easy” way out? Damage to race relations in this country DMS anymore. If obama skates he will continue to degrade race relations anyway, because that’s what he does. It’s who he is, the consummate agitator.

      It appears the polarization of this country will continue until the Left has enough juice to finally physically destroy (or outlaw) all political opposition. We need to deal with it, then put up with the aggravation and aftereffects so that the following generations don’t have to.

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    • Baygraver says:

      If this is correct , explosive analysis would be mildly descriptive, MOABs

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    • MTK says:

      Now, that is the most straight forward explaination to the whole sordid affair.

      What we have here… makes a number ducks line up and quack like the ducks they are.

      I do take exception to the observation that processing, understanding and acceptance of ‘facts’ and ‘truths’ and their corresponding opposites have anything to do with race. Sure, individuals are rational, people on the hand run on emotion.

      This is really not ground shaking, go out an talk real people, remove the lables and politics and associations, and ask them what they think about being lied to and used wrongly by others. The answer is almost universal. Now, ask them how they feel about being lied to by family. The answer is fairly much the same except there is more effort to rationalize and forgive.

      Individuals can lie to themselves, people still have buy into the lie, and therein is the power of lying for it is an effective means to reveal the balance sheet of the super-ego, i.e. the things a person is will or not willing to cast away. It is kinda of a prisoner delemna.

      Maybe, that is a good observation on the workings of politicians. Then again, maybe that is a good observation on the workings of industry that support politicians. Maybe it is combination of both. Either way, when it comes to ability to lie and continue to get away with it, historically calling out the lie is ineffective, the only sure fire way to confront a lier is to present to the audience considerations that will influence the super-ego gymnastics to abandon the lier.

      Easier said then done.

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    • Ken says:

      “Thanos Level Event.” I understood that reference.

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    • NJ Transplant says:

      I also checked out Big League Politics. There was another article about a whistleblower of hacking of Americans. The article claimed that John Roberts, Supreme Court Judge and a judge on the FISA court were hacked by Brennan. Now we know why John Roberts voted for Obamacare being constitutional.

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    • Countrywatch says:

      Could you give the link to the article? Have been to site but not spotted it. Thanks. Very interesting reading.

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    • chibiabos says:

      Just to clarify, you are suggesting Prez Obama might have legally ordered spying / surveillance on Team Trump, but may have broken the law by not informing Congress of that spying / surveillance?

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      • mike croft says:

        I think that is what he is saying. Also that Obama and his crew knew the whole thing was nonsense from the beginning. I am trying to make sense of it myself.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Not quite, he’s saying:
        Obama authorized spying for POLITICAL REASONS not national security ones (which didn’t actually exist and are the requirements of the Electronic Surveillance Act cited.)

        Brennan with help of UK created false national security intel which became the missing justification for Obama’s previous authorization AND was then funneled to the FBI to initiate an official counterintelligence investigation.

        Things just snowballed from there.

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    • Jim Ryan says:

      Mike, this was excellent. As stated in the piece, “The implications are staggering.” How can anyone trust these scoundrels again? Everyone that cares about the future of our nation should be screaming for the truth to come out. If liars were golden, Washington DC would be worth three hundred times as much as Fort Knox.

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      • mike croft says:

        We are to trust only Jesus Christ and the Word of God. Men are sinners, liars, and corrupt. We are living in the last days of 2 Timothy 3.

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        • Angry Dumbo says:

          Thank you for posting, mike croft. The Thanos Level Event, is indeed end of times stuff. Thanos in this context is President Obama and his crime of domestic political spying. (IMHO)

          The article you posted above deserves reposting:

          1) Obama authorized spying/electronic surveillance on Team Trump, by-passing normal
          judicial oversight.
          2) To create “foreign intelligence,” John Brennan and others organized for UK
          intelligence to conduct surveillance on Trump and his associates, either from the UK or from UK assets within the U.S. This is another reason revealing this will unleash an excrement storm: the UK is about to be caught meddling bigly in an American election.
          3) Lynch certified Obama’s authorization which is now held under seal by DOJ (and
          FISC).

          From this authorization, all unmaking followed, as well as the FBI fraudulent counter
          intel investigation and perhaps the FISA warrant too. Obama knew this was all fake when he made the authorization; Lynch knew it was fake when she certified it; the entire inner circle, including the FBI, all knew. This takes the U.S. into uncharted territory, and could imperil any politician in the British government who supported this or had knowledge of it. Proving any of this would be difficult, as if confronted Lynch would almost certainly cover up and Obama would simply deny knowledge. Without a paper trail, a conviction might be a bridge to far.

          Sara Carter reported that concealed FISA documents hold the key—not because they were
          the origin of SPYGATE but because each new application had to include earlier supporting
          intelligence, i.e., Obama’s authorization. And the director of the British surveillance agency,
          GCHQ, Robert Hannigan, quit three days after Trump’s inauguration for “personal” and “health” reasons.

          Now the seeming stonewalling of DOJ, Jeff Sessions, and Rod Rosenstein make sense.
          Now it is clear why President Trump has not just himself declassified these materials. This is a TLE. A Thanos Level Event.

          It suggests Sessions and others are wrestling with a massively disruptive chain of revelations that will approximate those of 1861, namely what do you do with a criminal ex-president? Larry Schweikart has discussed elsewhere how no impeachment of a former public official is necessary to indict, arrest, and/or punish such a person. Former Vice President Aaron Burr was arrested and charged with treason by President Thomas Jefferson in 1807 (he was acquitted for lack of evidence). Of course, more recently, former Vice President Spiro Agnew was not impeached before pleading no contest to a felony charge of tax evasion and sentenced to three years probation.

          Such a Thanos Level Event might also explain Robert Mueller’s odd and inexplicable
          behavior of running hither and yon, achieving virtually nothing. If he knew as well, he is
          probably just as baffled as the DOJ as to how to proceed in a job that implicates the former
          president in everything Mueller touches. The implications are staggering. One side will rightly demand justice be done, no matter who the culprit. Another side will insist that such a prosecution would “tear the country apart” and do irreparable harm to race relations. Both sides are right, but if we are correct and Barack Obama is not just the end-game point of approval, but the jumping off platform for the entire scandal?

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    • pnj01 says:

      My understanding is that the Attorney General can only “by-pass the normal court vetting process” under 50 USC Sec. 1802 (a) (1) and authorize the surveillance himself when the Government seeks authority to engage in Electronic Surveillance against foreigners ONLY and “there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party….” So any planned electronic surveillance of Trump or any American volunteer in his campaign (i.e., Carter Page) would have to proceed under 50 USC Sec. 1804 which requires a warrant. The reason for the difference is an American–even if an agent of a foreign power–has the protections of the Fourth Amendment. Thus there is a requirement for the Government to establish probable cause to believe that the American to be surveilled is an agent of a particular foreign power.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Could this be the reason they HAD to eventually get a FISA warrant on somebody in the campaign? This would give them retroactive cover for having already spied on American citizen.
        If this is the case, this could put Steele’s role in the writing the dossier in much more sinister light i.e. much more than simple “Hillary paid for oppo-research” but a required foundational document written specifically to obtain that needed FISA warrant.

        I always found it so amazing that in the most incredible act of counterintelligence in the history of spycraft (real or fictional) ex-spy Steele came out of retirement for one final mission and was able in less than 3 months to unravel the ENTIRE nefarious Trump/Russian collusion plot. (We should sicked him on Bin Laden and saved a decade or two).
        Convenient he was able to do that and the FBI could plop it right in their FISA application, toot sweet.

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    • MGBSE says:

      Very simple…Valarie Jarrett.

      Think back to sometime between Jesse Jackson sayin he wanted to cut obamas n*ts off and his son going to prison, valJay made it perfectly clear she would destroy anyone who spoke against her puppet, I mean Obama. Fast forward to Trump making the fake birth certificate front and center and forcing a comment from her puppet, followed by the Trump campaign starting up…and Muslim loving valJay, who lived in the whitehouse with obama and controlled all aspects of his schedule, teleprompters & autopen, and could do anything…and she did…she contacted Muslim brennen and the plot to destroy the billionaire was hatched…and thanks to Hillary, they had easy access to compliant Russians.

      And, Hillary was, without a doubt, the guaranteed next president…leaving the Jarrett/Brennan plot free to destroy candidate Trump, destroy businessman Trump and destroy personal Trump for dissin’ her obama…then Trump won the Republican nomination – even better – Hillary would humiliate him in her landslide victory and their plot was thickened with innocent, unsuspecting campaign people…then Hillary lost.

      The “oh sh*t” silence was shattered in less than 48 hours with Russia, Russia, Russia.
      And here we are…destroyed Trump campaign people, destroyed Trump Cabinet people, swamp rino traitors, deepstate investigations using policestate tactics…and…oh yeah…Roseanne was fired for a joke about…Valerie Jarrett.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      Do game-playing criminals in high office often follow rules and leave their fingerprints on evidence? Or do they unleash horrors by giving deniable and/or ambiguous verbal instructions through layers of underlings? Barrack Obama has had minions destroy all his birth records, passport records, college records, etc. It’s hard to imagine him leaving behind signed documents, authorizing political spying, that would reduce his “legacy” to toxic ash.

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    • Joan A says:

      I am thinking Obama will be needing that book and Net flix contract advance.

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  5. Mark L. says:

    As I read this long evolving seditionist cabal, I’m left with the feeling that Trump already knows all of this. Its just a “matter” of how it gets exposed. Do you think for a minute that POTUS thought Mr. Goody was on the side of light.

    Once agin Sundance is here to explain the complex to the masses.

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  6. DanO64 says:

    Wow, the information is over whelming, on purpose. Another day.

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  7. Gaffer says:

    May I remind you of the Vault 7 CIA hacker dudes hidden at CIA and able to electronically rape anyone targeted by Obama/Brennan? I suggest they were engaged in criminal hacking of political opponents and the FISA effort may, at least in part, have been an effort to exploit and legitimize materials they may have found.

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    • Jim Ryan says:

      Good point. NSA and CIA electronic surveillance efforts have been off the chain for far too long. They are reported by audits to be overwhelmed at a management level by the shear size of their databases, and they can’t even control access to the databases. This is a recipe for political abuse, and Obama/Brennan likely used it to prepare a feast for the swamp on their way out the door.

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  8. Kevin H. says:

    It could be that Trump is having minor anti-Sessions twitter rants to put him at arms length, so when Sessions brings the boom down on the deep state, it won’t appear as a political witch hunt.

    Same thing with Gowdy. It could be that Gowdy is positioning himself as pro-deep state so when he takes action against deep state, it won’t look like Trump favoritism.

    Hopefully Mueller, Rosenstein, Gowdy and Sessions are working in concert and playing coy publicly to confuse deep state/MSM (which would certainly blast them otherwise).

    Not 100% certain on it, but it’s the best case scenario.

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    • dotherightthing4 says:

      I agree with you about Sessions but not Gowdy and not Mueller. Actually, I also think Rosenstein may also be playing the role of bad guy since all the corruption did not come to light until AFTER he signed the last FISA renewal. I think perhaps the reason they are holding some of these documents is because Huber is using them in indictments. I am thinking they are waiting until the IG report is released and then will issue all these indictments. At least that is my hope.
      Remember, Gowdy talks a good game but has accomplished nothing during his time in the House. He accomplished zilch as head of the Benghazi commission. He is also friends with Rubio whose campaign initiated the dossier.

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      • Larry Carlisle says:

        B. Trey has not been successful in ANYTHING!

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      • Jim Ryan says:

        Have there been three Congressmen any more underwhelming in recent memory than Gowdy, Issa, and Chaffetz? I sometimes forget that Rosenstein’s renewal efforts preceded public dissemination of all things Spygate, so I need to be more open-minded about his role.

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        • Rita Camp says:

          There are lots of congressmen who are just as underwhelming or worse. You just don’t see them on television. Congress dramatically changed after the retirement or deaths of the World War Two generation. Unfortunately it was not for the better. And the 24/7 news cycle has not helped.

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      • Greg says:

        Hold your judgement on Gowdy, I believe he and the others on Benghazi had threats to themselves and their families if they pushed too hard. Could you imagine Clinton’s or Holders thugs making those calls? I could.

        Sessions is just too obvious. POTUS lays that banana skin down every few months, tweets shade on Sessions and the leftists come running to defend and love him. Whoops!
        The entire Trump on Sessions “I wish I’d never hired him…” theatre is just too funny. This coming from the guy who says “you’re fired” to Tillerson, Comey, McMaster etc.

        I just have a gut feeling Gowdy is positioning for some of that leftist love also. Especially if he gets appointed to number 3 in the DOJ, that position currently on a 200 day temporary appointment on EO. I guess Gowdy will need to be voted on for that, hence positioning.
        Give rooster a chance…

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        • Greg says:

          Sorry I forgot one crucial point regarding Gowdy and Benghazi. Remember, even if Gowdy had done the brave thing and gone hard, recommended criminal charges. Do you think the FBI or DOJ would’ve done anything? Nope.

          Under those corrupt circumstances and surrounded by thugs, what would you do in their position? Do the right thing? Immediately making you and your family a target? Knowing full well that the corrupt DOJ and FBI would purposefully botch the investigation if they even bothered to do one. Or would you hold fire and pray for the opportunity to turn the tables and take these godless communist thugs out for good?

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          • Joan A says:

            I have to tell you, I heard Gowdy say in an interview, that in time, he thinks history will be kind to Comey. This was a long time ago- could be a year, or less. I still haven’t found a slot for that puzzle piece.

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    • Francine Hutcheson says:

      I remain objective to this possibility….

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      • intercesser says:

        No . Wishful thinking . Gowdy-doody is showing his true colors . He , like so many others , is an opportunist . It is more likely that he was shown some carrots and some sticks and he chose the carrots . A combination of bribery and blackmail . Instead of blocking for his team , he is tackling for the other team .

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        • Rita Camp says:

          All politicians are opportunists. Otherwise they would not seek elective office. But I don’t buy into bribery or blackmail. Such actions by members of Congress are extremely rare. The executive branch is a totally different animal. Political appointees often abuse their power, but they turn over with each new administration. The Deep State is far, far worse. They are unaccountable to no one and their unions protect them vigorously. Unfortunately, I don’t see any resolution – ever.

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    • Concerned Citizen says:

      Be curious your thoughts on why Rosenstein renewed the FISA warrant. Knowing what we now know about Halper’s engagement and the fact that he disengaged Page right around the end of the last FISA renewal, is it possible that Rosenstein was using the warrant to actually figure out what was going on before the election? Like who Halper was actually working for and why? I mean the FISA warrant is a double edged sword. The crooks used it before the election. Why not the good guys after the election?

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      • beach lover says:

        Interesting tidbit this AM on F&F. Brian Kilmeade mentioned he asked RR last week when he was at the WH for that interview, “how are things going for you”? RR answered, “don’t believe everything you read”. And POTUS was sitting right beside him.

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      • The FISA was renewed BEFORE the texts between Strzok and Page came to light and WAY before anyone was aware of Stefan Halper–like 10 months before. It could be as simple as someone just rubber stamping something trusting everything is on the up and up. This is done all the time and does not necessarily indicate complicity. Halper was working for the CIA and FBI. He was paid via the Treasury (hello Jack Lew) and the DOD. The surveillance began well before the July, 2016 counterintelligence investigation and well before the October, 2016 FISA was granted. The NEEDED the FISA to validate the surveillance they had already done—retroactively. When Admiral Rogers found the illicit unmasking being done by contractors and WH staff he ordered an investigation. He then went to the FISC and it was stopped.

        https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/

        On October 26th, 2016, full FISC assembly, NSA Director Rogers personally informed the court of the 702(17) violations. Additionally, Rogers also stopped “About Query” permanently.

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  9. Sauce says:

    Good stuff on the Gowdy dust up, wasn’t a huge Bongino fan when I first heard him a year or so ago but he is ow one of the only podcasts I listen to daily

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    • dotherightthing4 says:

      I was wishing Greg Jarrett would have also been on the panel because he had just finished explaining (on Hannity) that when Sessions recused there was NO criminal investigation but only a counterintelligence investigation. The statutes do not require his recusal. Greg would have come back at this Liberal with facts. And the fact he had never heard the “wingman” comment by Holder was telling.

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      • do the right- I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!

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      • G. Combs says:

        “….Greg Jarrett would have also been on the panel because he had just finished explaining (on Hannity) that when Sessions recused there was NO criminal investigation but only a counterintelligence investigation. The statutes do not require his recusal…..”

        Seems Greg Jarret did not READ the RECUSAL!
        OR
        He does not understand what the word FUTURE means.

        Read US attorney general Jeff Sessions’ statement recusing himself from investigations into the 2016 presidential campaigns

        “During the course of the confirmation proceedings on my nomination to be Attorney General, I advised the Senate Judiciary Committee that ‘[i]f a specific matter arose where I believed my impartiality might reasonably be questioned, I would consult with Department ethics officials regarding the most appropriate way to proceed

        Having concluded those meetings today, I have decided to recuse myself from any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States….

        Consistent with the succession order for the Department of Justice, Acting Deputy Attorney General and U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia Dana Boente shall act as and perform the functions of the Attorney General with respect to any matters from which I have recused myself to the extent they exist.

        AG Sessions or ANYONE that Trump appointed, like Rudy Giuliani or Chris Christi would also have been forced to recuse in order to get confirmed.

        Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals
        RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”… You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

        THIS IS THE RULE!!!!
        GOVERNMENT ETHICS
        “[…]C. DOJ-Specific Conflict of Interest Regulation: No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome. 28 CFR 45.2

        Political relationship means a close identification with an elected official, candidate, political party or campaign organization arising from service as a principal advisor or official; personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality.[…]”

        You can twist and turn and bash but the FACTS DO NOT BACK YOU UP!

        RECUSAL from campaign issues (Muh! Russia) was an ABSOLUTE requirement for confirmation of ANY Trump AG pick PERIOD.

        The Senate had the POWER to put this part of the ‘Insurance Policy’ in place.

        Republicans: 51
        Democrats: 49

        Of the Republicans you have McStain, Flake, Burr, Miss Lindsey, McTurtle…
        Any two of whom could toss out ANY Trump nomination as they have done continually over the last year.

        WHY? Because the SWAMP had to have a Special Counsel appointed that was NOT appointed by a Trump sympathizer.

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        • singular says:

          I have defended Sessions on this recusal, but does it apply to intelligence investigations as well as criminal ones? @G.Combs.

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          • gda says:

            “any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States….”

            “Future” is the key word here. Sessions would have known which way this was heading regardless of the fact that at the time of his recusal it had NOT been a CRIMINAL investigation.

            I think we need to move away from the recusal/non-recusal argument. The only issue is – why did Sessions take the job when he knew he would be recusing.

            To me the answer is simple. He wanted the job, and selfishly never considered the damage he would be doing to the President by taking it. Blind ambition.

            The President is right to be extremely pissed at Sessions, not for recusing, but for not telling him that he would have to do so.

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        • intercesser says:

          Agreed ….. , but … , why is this a one-way street ? Why do these laws not apply equally to Obama’s people ?

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    • The Boss says:

      Goldman did not impress me. Very weak points all around.

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    • Sauce- Bongino really nailed that little jerk.

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    • Her interview skills still suck.

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      • KeithBB says:

        Ingraham has never impressed me as solid. Talking about the horrors of Russian interference and then yucking it up with James Woolsey about the CIA interfering in elections for years all over the world – sealed it for me. She is a fair-weathered truth seeker; and yes, not a good investigative interviewer either. My opinion.

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    • Linda Smith says:

      If you listen carefully to the interview and I watched it on Laura last night….the guy keeps repeating that ‘Obama was never under investigation’ or ‘But Trump is under investigation’. In other words they have set a trap. He is from the Southern district of New York, don’t think for a minute he doesn’t know the inside scoop. To cover for themselves, they say the investigation is about the Russians and their tampering in our elections, but then when cornered, as this guy was, he blast it out that this is all about having Trump under investigation therefore Sessions can’t be his ‘wing man’ as Holder claimed to be for Obama as AG. HOW CONVENIENT!! And Sessions played right into it.

      He recused himself with the wrong legal opinion, he never told the President what he was going to do and he quickly pulled up Rosenstein to run everything and within just a few days Rosenstein sends a letter to Trump as to why Comey needs to be fired, then when Comey is fired Rosenstein quickly signs FISA warrant allowing further surveillance on Trump et. al. And before we can breathe a good breath Mueller (Comey’s good friend) is brought on as Special Counsel…once again going after Trump and as the Southern district guy stated over and over….they (as in Sessions and Rosenstein, Wray) can’t protect Trump because he is under investigation. In other words….Trump would be obstructing justice if he fires any of them for this total made up witch hunt. How utterly fantastic to have your job so protected, from the boss, that has the right to dismiss you for any reason or no reason at all, that you can’t be fired for any reason. That is why the sycophant ‘Lindsey Graham’ is always ready willing and able to shout the alarm if Trump so much as broaches the subject…’We in the Senate will have to impeach the President if he fires Rosenstein or Sessions’.

      I have read Sundance as he has repeatedly tried to cover for this cabal, and I have tried to buy into his narrative, but I am having a very difficult time, now, and especially after viewing the Southern district guy on Laura.

      We need to wake up. This is a total conspiracy plot to control a President and his ability to govern and run our country (as we elected him to do) and Sessions is part of that plot. I liked even loved Sessions, but no more. He could do far more than he has done on many fronts and that even includes his pet project ‘illegals’ entering our country. He keeps saying he will do things by the book–by the law, but there are many laws he is not even using to stop these invaders. SESSIONS is a deep stater and make no mistake about it.

      All of you can continue to try and buy into what Sundance is selling and he may be correct (and I truly hope he is) but I am going to go with what these guys are, daily, telling us, about who they are. And Sessions has shown all of us, that he will lie directly to our President.

      I know I don’t normally comment on this forum (I usually read it daily, though), but after Laura’s show last night the scales, over my eyes, have completely fallen off.

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      • G. Combs says:

        SHEESH,
        Get your FACTS STRAIGHT!
        “…he quickly pulled up Rosenstein to run everything …..”

        AG SESSIONS FIRED ROSENSTEIN early in March 2017!!!!

        It was President Trump who refused his resignation!
        link

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      • Amy2 says:

        After the interview, I kept thinking, everyone is telling the president he is not a target of the investigation(s). This SNDY guy was just slinging mud Obama was not under investigation during his presidency, but his entire administration certainly is now.
        These people cannot see past the “this is how it is always done” thought, so anything Trump does to change that will not go far.

        White hat/black hat…they’re just all entrenched hats. Please we need to see paper trails and make up our own minds. I am tired of these people covering their butts while insisting they are protecting mine.

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      • Concerned says:

        For those of you, who play Chess. This is known as the “The Deadly Pawn Sacrifice”.

        Reference: https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-deadly-pawn-sacrifice

        Comey could have been sacrificed to position these other players. What do you think?

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        • intercesser says:

          Yes and no . Brennan ( CIA ) always maintain plausible deniability . DOJ-NSD and FBI got played by Brennan and his cronies . The truth shall set you free , but the truth may also make you look like a fool in the process . Who wants that ?

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      • Maquis says:

        Nice try.

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    • I just wish Laura would shut up and let Bongino handle this guy. Bongino (Regardless of what some on this board may think of him) has done tons more research in to this whole sleazy thing than Laura could hope to. Bongino had him cornered and she talked over the trap set for him. She needs to let the experts hash this out. Love her, but she has more of a desire to make her points, which unfortunately are minor , and sometimes off base, than to let the subject experts get to the heart of the critical issue.

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  10. Patriot1783 says:

    Zinke interview on Fox discussing the Dept of Interior partnership with Tribal groups in fighting opioid crisis.
    Another “thank you obama” for having the death rate related to drug abuse skyrocket during his 8 long years.

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  11. Interesting story out of the UK in the Daily Mail. I don’t know what to make of this and hope that Sundance will write about it because this whole thing sounds very sketchy.
    According to the article, McCabe wrote another of his own secret memos because he was worried that somehow President Trump would use Rosenstein’s Comey memo to “derail” the phony Russia investigation.
    These scumbags just never quit.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5789491/Ex-FBI-No-2-official-wrote-memo-Comey-firing.html

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    • Leane Kamari says:

      Who would belief a lying McCabe? BTW wasn’t RRosenstein involved in that ominous Uranium 1 case where he wans’t taking into account the information from the informant who was under Gag order? To me he seems claerly a “Mueller mole black hat.

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  12. Jane Smith says:

    No matter which way you look at any of this, the problem circles back to the same entity…the FBI:

    Brennan created the false Russian premise and fed it to the FBI…through back channels.
    The FBI used the false info for the EC and FISA Warrants.
    The FBI lied to the FISC Court.
    The FBI embedded spies into the Trump Campaign.
    The FBI illegally collected the communications of the Trump Campaign staff.
    The FBI failed to warn the Trump Campaign about possible Russian hacking.
    The FBI failed to follow up on the warning to the Clinton Campaign about Russian hacking.
    The FBI failed to inspect the DNC servers after they were supposedly hacked.
    The FBI failed to determine Seth Rich/Wikileaks hacking.
    The FBI failed to investigate the Seth Rich murder.
    The FBI failed to properly investigate Clinton’s use of a private server.
    The FBI failed to properly investigate the communication of classified information over non-secure channels by Clinton, her staff, and Obama.
    The FBI attempted a Coup of a duly elected President.
    The FBI continue a bogus Russia Collusion Investigation.
    The FBI continue to try to find reason to impeach our President.

    From it’s inception, the FBI has been corrupt.
    One has to ask…how could one man, Hoover, remain in charge of the FBI for so many years?
    He must have had dirt on every elected official.
    The FBI has grown and become more centralized in DC…thanks to Mueller’s 5/7 and gone.
    The oversight of the FBI has meanwhile shrunk…from “Congress” to “Gang of 8”.
    The FBI is the core of the problem.
    It should be disbanded and replaced with a more decentralized organisation.

    No wonder it needs hacks like Gowdy running around crowing how great it is.

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    • Lady Sid says:

      It’s probably been said before but looking at your list of recent FBI malfeasance, I think that Mueller’s 5/7 and gone policy really ruined the agency in that the guys “in the field” i.e. outside of D. C., lost any influence they had to pushy ambitious scumbuckets like McCabe, who were just trying to climb the ropes and rings of “Moscow Central.” Tips, such as the ones received by agents in FL re: Nikolas Cruz were basically overlooked, or maybe allowed to develop so as to lead to something more sinister, such as gun confiscation. It’s all bad, isn’t it? Drain the swamp. Shutter the FBI. Turn in your badges and guns, G-Men.

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    • Jane- excellent post.

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    • Cheesehead54016 says:

      Agree for most part or at least a complete management change in top 3-5 levels of FBI to help remove politically biased mgmt.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Close down the entire DC FBI management section and keep most of those in outlying areas although those are infected too. (Personal experience.)

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    • SJM says:

      FBI Epstein files say he gave info. Does it explain sweetheart deal?
      By Jane Musgrave – Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
      Posted: 12:21 p.m. Wednesday, May 30, 2018

      EXCERPT:
      Ten years after convicted Palm Beach sex offender Jeffrey Epstein escaped federal charges in connection with allegations that he paid dozens of teenage girls for sex, the FBI last week released what appears to be an explosive explanation for what many have long described as a sweetheart deal.
      https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/crime–law/fbi-epstein-files-say-gave-info-does-explain-sweetheart-deal/NdgitAifci1k6dJgpLV63O/

      ****************************
      Filthy Rich: A Powerful Billionaire, the Sex Scandal that Undid Him, and All the Justice that Money Can Buy – The Shocking True Story of Jeffrey Epstein
      Hardcover – October 10, 2016
      By James Patterson & John Connolly with Tim Malloy

      Jeffrey Epstein rose from humble origins to the rarefied heights of New York City’s financial elite. A college dropout with an instinct for numbers–and for people–Epstein amassed his wealth through a combination of access and skill. But even after he had it all, Epstein wanted more. And that unceasing desire–especially a taste for young girls–resulted in his stunning fall from grace. From Epstein himself, to the girls he employed as masseuses at his home, to the cops investigating the appalling charges against him, FILTHY RICH examines all sides of a case that scandalized one of America’s richest communities. An explosive true story, FILTHY RICH is a riveting account of wealth, power and the influence they bring to bear on the American justice system….

      Hardcover: 320 pages
      Publisher: Little, Brown and Company; First Edition edition (October 10, 2016)
      Language: English
      ISBN-10: 0316274054
      ISBN-13: 978-0316274050

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    • Amy2 says:

      I think that’s why Mr. Sundance continues to point out how Brennan’s testimony lays it all in the lap of the FBI.

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  13. For anyone who wants to read a brilliant put down and expose of Trey Roosterhead Gowdy, I highly recommend this article by Andy McCarthy. As per usual, it is well written, easy to understand and nails that little SOB and his sleazy buddies.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/trump-campaign-spying-obama-administration-investigation/

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  14. G. Combs says:

    Thomas says: @ May 31, 2018 at 2:06 am

    “This guy, like Sundance, is totally plugged in and has some things nailed:”

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1001866516067946498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    THREAD UNROLLED: https://t.co/X7kqP5KnCM

    Just WOW!
    Undercover Huber really slays the Downer/Mifsud/GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS part of the Russian Collusion story.

    If Mifsud was the critical spy in this story…. Why isn’t MIFSUD IN JAIL WITHOUT BOND????

    Important points from this really long detailed thread:
    “…JOSEPH MIFSUD, the person who is supposed to have told PAPADOPOULOS about “emails” & “dirt” also denies he ever told him anything like this…..”

    “…You might say: of course a Russian spy would deny it. Okay, but these denials from MIFSUD are *after* he was interviewed by the FBI in Feb 2017 in Washington D.C. If MIFSUD repeated these same denials to the FBI, why isn’t he indicted for lying?….”

    “…The FBI also interviewed one of those book authors in Oct 2017 who interviewed MIFSUD. This is a person able to get in contact with this “Russian spy” & knows his location. The FBI didn’t ask him a single question about MIFSUD….”

    “Oh, and speaking of MIFSUD, why does this “Russian agent/cut-out” Maltese phantom have so many connections to Western Intelligence agencies, politicians and diplomats?
    https://t.co/7yN9rnS6QE
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DedfnmJWsAAXLro.jpg:small

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    • G.Combs- excellent post, amazing info.

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    • Excellent Post G. Combs, Great article a @realclearinvestigations. Lee Smith is all over this Mifsud character. Mifsud seems to the closest to the beginning of the “agent provocateur” phase of the set up program. Must read for all following this. https://t.co/7yN9rnS6QE

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      • andy says:

        So im a programmer that spends a lot of time looking at what code is supposed to do but is broken… aka fixing bugs….
        Halper/Downer/Steel only need the character appearance of Mifsud.

        Think Shadow puppetry. Halper arranges a scene and casts light on the silhouettes.
        Same with Carter Page and Steel. the silhouettes can be unawares. It breaks downs when we are allowed to see that Mifsud was never investigated, and instead , they charged Papadopoulos instead of Mifsud after their 302s contradicted each other.

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        • I’ve always found that telling. Squeeze Georgie all the while his info was coming from Mifsud. In CI it seems logical to get to the source or at least make strides in that direction. Stopping at GP is just a plan tell.

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          • andy says:

            After that tell is exposed…. you focus on Page, who did not have a handler, but instead the dossier cast him in bad light. However he was never indicted and the only clues on what they had to receive FISA extensions is perhaps the DNI report in january 2017 based on the Schiff memo. Carter walks free but credence is still given to the steele dossier. That is tell number two. And to hammer home the second tell, note that Adam Schiff uses Carter Page interviews with the FBI in May of 2016 _while he was working as a undercover informant_ as part of the carter page probably cause. Its yet another dishonest turd from Schiff…

            The bad guys were tricked into an early alibi by Q. may Q rest in peace…

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        • Jane Smith says:

          Agree…programming….

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  15. i2choose says:

    Is this part of the 4D chess game? How does this look if this is positioning for a SCOTUS position? With the POTUS support? Just a thought, this is all getting complex.

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  16. GW says:

    So what is Devin Nunes’ countermove ???
    And does the truth get back on track ?
    It’s too bad Scalise was the victim on the ball field and not the Treytor ….

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  17. Neo says:

    Is is possible that Gowdy is trying to cover the rearends of congressional Republicans in the Gang of Eight rather than those of the CIA?
    Mitch McConnell, Richard Burr, Paul Ryan and Devin Nunes signed off on the spying operation when briefed on it the summer of 2016 by Brennan as he officially started up the counterintelligence operation against Trump.
    Thus they are also complicit in the whole Russian collusion farce, and are perhaps trying to justify their actions at the time.

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    • gda says:

      You missed the part where Brennan says he briefed each of the Gang of 8 INDIVIDUALLY?

      Nunes (maybe all the GOP members) got a different briefing than Schiff et al. Sundance clearly indicates this was the case.

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  18. Cheesehead54016 says:

    This whole thing appears to not only point at FBI but also right at Obama/Lynch/Holder. Correct me if Im wrong……..

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  19. John says:

    Recall…Rosenstein threatened Ryan, Nunes, Gowdy and others many eeks ago. I wonder if we are seeing those threats come to fruition.

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  20. Bluto says:

    Gowdy wants a job with the Department of Justice after he leaves Congress so he ain’t gonna stir the pot at the DOJ. He’ll just go with the flow without asking questions like, “how could the spies have been doing what Trump asked them to do almost a year before he asked it?” Gowdy’s likely compromised in some way by his donors (Deep State Koch Brothers are his top donors https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/contributors?cid=N00030880&cycle=CAREER and have recently spoken out strongly against Trump tariffs https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/the-koch-brothers-found-one-thing-they-hate-more-than-donald-trump) and is getting out of Congress before he is exposed.

    The Deep State’s got probably got something on Rubio, too (his top donor is Club for Growth, a Koch-funded PAC http://darkmoneywatch.org/key-players-profile/club-for-growth/)
    He also doesn’t want those bath house photos to come back out because the FBI was probably spying on his campaign too and probably has more than photos. He’s got a family now that he doesn’t want destroyed by scandal. Or, maybe his personal finances were so bad he had to do more than just sell his boat. He’s getting pressure from somewhere…wonder where?

    Trump is right about one thing (among many) that the one thing Democrats do right is stick together. Teamwork and following the lead of the Captain of the Team has never been the Republican’s strong suit.

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  21. Concerned says:

    I know, that this is a little off topic, but it seems related.

    I am concerned, that the Special Prosecutor (Mueller) is using his position to hide evidence that would incriminate the DOJ and FBI, in the 2016 campaign, against President Trump.

    Extract from article: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-challenged-manafort-case-568935

    “U.S. District Court Judge T.S. Ellis said Mueller’s team seemed to be pursuing the case — “I don’t see what relation this indictment has with what the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” Ellis said during an hourlong hearing in Alexandria, Virginia. “You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud. … What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”

    Extract from: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/31/secret-mccabe-memo-in-muellers-hands-gives-details-comeys-firing-report.html

    “Secret McCabe memo in Mueller’s hands gives details of Comey’s firing: report.”

    Assuming Special Prosecutor (Mueller) is hiding evidence. Then how can this clearly illegal action be revealed?

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    • Jane Smith says:

      I think that the reason that the cabal wanted Mueller assigned to lead the Special Investigation was to hide Uranium One information.
      That puppy would sink Obama and the Clintons.

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      • Concerned says:

        The secret repository of the Special Prosecutor (Mueller). Where have we seen this approach used before? Sundance told us about it, “Operation Condor – How NSA Director Mike Rogers Saved The U.S. From a Massive Constitutional Crisis…”.

        Clean and hide perhaps?

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  22. dharrison1125 says:

    While I am anxiously awaiting how all this plays out, hoping for indictments and jail time for all the black hats–I find amusement in the fact that the Dems and Obama administration, by spying on the Trump campaign, STILL couldn’t win the election. They had the freaking playbook, the cheat codes, they knew what their opponent was doing and still mucked it up. Because the good guys always win. MAGA!

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  23. Comrade Mope says:

    Candidate Trump, as well as candidate Clinton were supposed to get the same intelligence briefings as the president.If there was a FBI-NSD counter-espionage investigation opened, even if it involved the Trump campaign, candidate Trump should have been apprised. The only reason he would not be informed would be he was under investigation at the time. Once he was cleared in the investigation he should have been afforded all the intelligence and the predicate.Failure to fully inform President Trump should be grounds for termination.
    That leaves a criminal investigation of the Trump campaign during an election season. Mr. Trump could be forced to give a deposition by simply affording the president with the same immunity given Hillary. Simple enough, if it is just answers Mr. Mueller wants.

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  24. Zippy says:

    Levin TORCHES Trey Gowdy’s defense of Spygate

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  25. Zippy says:

    Ep. 732 The Real Reason Behind the Deep State Panic
    AND their Gowdy assisted changing narrative.

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  26. Zippy says:

    By the way, DO NOT SUPPORT an end to the Mueller investigation! Why? Because if it ends, so will any additional digging into Spygate.

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  27. mortgagesforthemasses says:

    Has Trey disposed publicly how his net worth went from several hundred thousand dolllars to $6MM. I don’t recall hearing about a book deal, which his the coin of the realm in DC. Did he receicyan inherito, or was he bought off by the establishment?

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  28. Chewbarkah says:

    Clinton Rule One: Design crimes around evading successful prosecution. For SpyGate:
    1) The origins are all offshore. Baltic partners intercept something (likely planted by CIA to look like Russian communications); maybe they even think it is real. Next, “unofficial” operatives lure the targets to Britain, hiding prohibitions against domestic surveillance under muddy water. And the “evidence” isn’t going to be used for prosecutions in court or produced in any public forum, except as leaks.
    2) Brennan organizes “pitchers” (Halper, Mifsud, others?), probably through 3rd parties, to set up Popadopoulos, Page, and others, telling them stuff about Russians having Hillary emails, etc. The pitching staff likely was told they were helping chase real Russian operatives interfering in the US election, stopping Russian efforts to penetrate the Trump campaign, etc. They might know better, but have plausible deniability that they believed what they were doing was for real, not a partisan political scam.
    3) Brennan alerts Comey/FBI that CIA is picking up Russian collusion problems. This triggers FBI counter-intelligence ops, which Brennan generously points out to be FBI turf, not his. Targets are handed off to FBI.
    4) FBI/Strzok opens c-i operation, conveniently offshored to Britain, and organizes “catchers” for balls thrown by the “pitchers” that bounced off the targets. Plausibly deniable that he wasn’t even told that the whole thing was a set-up by CIA. FBI’s “catchers”, Downer, et al., ply the target Popadopoulos with booze and chicks, and uses the CIA’s crap to justify FISA warrants and surveillance of Page and Trump campaign. FBI side will claim, they never knew the CIA had faked the evidence — they were just doing their jobs (cue Trey Gowdy). Downer can claim he was just doing as asked to help catch Russian-backed malefactors. What laws did he violate by having drinks and conversation with a guy, and turning in a standard “diplomatic” report?
    5) FBI arranges for Downer’s spying to be reported through official channels to hide the fact that the meeting with P. was inadvertent, rather than a targeted operation. His report was “found” and shared by Australia well after the fact. Per the birth narrative in the NYT, this was the basis for opening the FBI’s c-i operation. (Reintroducing material they already had to distance themselves from the origins, parallels using McCain to carry the Steele Dossier to the FBI). [It’s possible Downer was a CIA asset instead of FBI, and the official reintroduction was engineered to give the FBI an excuse to know about it.]

    I’m sure much more to be gleaned from looking at their actions as the work of criminals carefully skirting responsibility. Brennan’s whole briefing process as discussed by Sundance is a major plank. Using Steele and Fusion GPS to reintroduce anti-Trump dirt created by the US government in another. The tangled, dynamic, redundant nature of this just screams “Destabilization Op run by John Brennan”. Clapper’s semantic self-sumo is really all about the difference in a “destabilization op” and “spying”. Spying involves finding out stuff you didn’t know, so I guess he’s right. They made no attempt to do that.

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    • Concerned says:

      Nice Job!

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    • mr.piddles says:

      “The origins are all offshore”

      I hear Macedonia is nice this time of year.

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      • nimrodman says:

        Yes, if you search on Air BnB I think you’ll find that many of the content farms have adjoining bed and breakfasts with expansive mountain views.

        Book now, availability is tightening as the summer season approaches.

        When autumn comes, the content farmers will be busy bringing in the harvest.

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        • mr.piddles says:

          Think I’m going to go ahead and book a family trip while the summer is still young. Hit the goat yoga in the morning and a little HTML hacking after dinner.

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    • Chew: well done my friend.

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    • Jim Ryan says:

      While it is a standard “Clinton MO” to incorporate avoidance of future prosecution into the design of crimes, it is also useful to note that it is a staple of Christians In Action to incorporate minimization of the potential for blowback into intelligence operations. This particular intelligence operation strikes me as a crime designed around minimizing the potential for blowback to the CIA. The inability of the FBI leadership to foresee that when it began to unravel they would be left holding the bag for Brennan and Clapper is very telling. Brennan and Clapper both knew that their outsourcing to UK players likely meant no public testimony in criminal trials in US Courts, but Comey et.al. now know how vulnerable they are. Obama DOJ/FBI leadership was corrupt and stupid, and that is why they will fall on their own swords.

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  29. SnapperCheeks says:

    You just CAN’T make this stuff up…UNNNNNNNbelievable…and sad!

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  30. trapper says:

    It seems like a good time to repost a comment from a couple years ago.

    You’ve spent your life watching the game. You learned early on that it was chess not checkers, and at one time tried to follow the three dimensional game, with multiple stacked boards and pieces moving between them. During flashes of insight you even caught glimpses of the four dimensional game, the Long Game: stacked boards, but with pieces disappearing altogether and then reappearing on a different board later. But the Long Game is difficult to keep in focus and, honestly, can be more than a little scary, so at some point you stopped trying to see it. You also put aside the three dimensional game and focused your attention on a single board. But then an odd thing happened. You noticed the pieces often didn’t move the way they should.

    The white pieces sometimes didn’t move the way the player played them, and neither did the black. They seemed to move on their own. That is when you realized that there is a third player at the board, unseen, moving both black and white pieces. And with that realization you noticed that the white queen isn’t white at all. She’s purple. So is the black king, and three of the bishops, and two of the rooks. All purple, and all being moved about by the hand of the unseen player.

    But even that didn’t fully account for it, because that purple rook shouldn’t be able to jump, and that bishop isn’t supposed to move sideways. And that is when, in a moment of clarity, you saw. All of the purple pieces are mere pawns, and the unseen player who moves them follows no rules. He is playing the Long Game, and he is playing it against you. No one is just a spectator.

    Then along came Trump. He kicked over the boards and scattered the pieces, which scurried to their players, revealing their real masters.

    There is a third player at the table, an organization, formal or informal, that transcends agencies and departments and countries and governments. And when a piece doesn’t move in accordance with its color and identity, pay attention, because you have identified its true allegiance.

    Trey Gowdy is a purple pawn.

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    • Concerned says:

      Where does Trey Gowdy’s allegiance lie?

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      • Jim Ryan says:

        It doesn’t appear to lie with the Constitution of the United States.

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      • trapper says:

        That’s the question, isn’t it? Who is the unseen player? An intelligence network within the agencies, aligned with certain interests within governments, that transcends boundaries, in pursuit of a globalist, one-world-government agenda? It’s easier to identify where it does NOT lie. It does not lie with the interests of the American people in full disclosure of all aspects and participants in the attempted American coup d’etat.

        If you jump metaphors, and go back to the Condor movie, Gowdy is the mailman, sent to eliminate the means by which the network would be fully disclosed.

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    • jmclever says:

      Ill vote Soros as the unseen hand via his many organizations and PACs

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  31. These two items may have been missed.

    First, John Giacalone will testify next week on why the FBI stopped investigating Hillary Clinton. He led the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton. They caused him to retire when the probe “went sideways” and the investigation stopped. Giacalone is testifying against James Comey and Andrew McCabe, his former bosses.

    https://brassballs.blog/home/john-giacalone-to-testify-next-week-on-why-fbi-stopped-investigating-hillary-clinton

    Secondly, will Michael Horowitz’s Inspector Report conclude that Hillary Clinton e-mail probe Chief Investigator, Peter Kadzik, is next in line for criminal prosecution?

    Kadzik worked for the Justice Department. He “led the successful effort to confirm Loretta Lynch and Sally Yates” to run the Justice Dept. and was a “fantastic lawyer” who “kept me out of jail” said John Podesta.

    Kadzik also rewrote FISA applicants that were rejected by the court and FISA warrant extensions. Podesta was Presidential Campaign Manager for Hillary Clinton and was Chief of Staff, for her husband, President Bill Clinton.

    https://brassballs.blog/home/clinton-e-mail-probe-chief-investigator-peter-kadzik-next-in-line-for-prosecution

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  32. jmclever says:

    “QUESTION: Then what exactly did John Brennan brief the Gang-of-Eight on?”
    maybe it wasnt a briefing. Maybe he told them about the insurance policy and told them to play along or he would get them as well using the same construct.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      My guess is that Brennan gave them a “brief” version, with enough meat to claim he’d told them what he thought at the time was essential. But he withheld anything about the spying/destabilization ops he didn’t want them to know about. When caught on it, he’ll say, oops, maybe I should have told them that, but we were trying to save the country from Russian spies, blah blah blah.

      If the Gang of 8 took their work seriously, they wouldn’t settle for “briefings”, but demand and read the whole enchilada.

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  33. zooamerica says:

    DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz – Part 1 – His War with Obama Administration

    MUST READ! Yes, I know IG Horowitz was appointed by Obama, but read this!

    https://americandigitalnews.com/2017/12/18/doj-ig-horowitz-p1-his-war-with-obama-admin/#.WxCHIdQrKt8

    Great website too, make sure to check out the “ADN Featured Posts” near the bottom of the homepage.

    I think this is GREAT news.

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  34. Chuck Arnold says:

    So what happens now?

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    • zooamerica says:

      Have to wait until the IG Report is released.

      After the release, AG Jeff Sessions will either swiftly respond, or he won’t.

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  35. zooamerica says:

    I think Trey Gowdy and Michael Horowitz have a lot in common.

    They both got screwed by the Obama administration.

    Here is a VERY INTERESTING article about the current relationship between Trey Gowdy and AG Jeff Sessions.

    Who?

    JEFF SESSIONS

    https://madworldnews.com/trey-gowdy-ag-jeff-sessions/

    Be wise. President Trump wishes he never hired Jeff Sessions.

    Some say and think that’s just a play, but let’s get real.

    President Trump is being flat out honest as usual with his feelings about the Attorney General and Sessions is not playing possum…..he’s playing the same game that Horowitz and Gowdy are all too familiar with.

    Sessions is compromised. He has been the biggest disappointment of the Trump Presidency.

    Trey Gowdy saw what Jeff Sessions was doing…he has a lot of experience with matters like this, and so does Michael Horowitz.

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  36. zooamerica says:

    From the link above…

    Following the release of the letter, Gowdy appeared on Fox News where he explained why he changed his mind and now demands that Sessions appoint a second special counsel to investigate the FISA abuse scandal.

    “What changed for me was the knowledge that there are two dozen witnesses that Michael Horowitz, the DOJ Inspector General, would not have access to,” Gowdy said.

    “When I counted up 24 witnesses that he would not be able to access were he to investigate it, yeah only one conclusion, that’s special counsel.”

    ——–

    Logical with no assumptions.

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  37. zooamerica says:

    I honestly do not think that Gowdy is Deep State.

    I honestly do think that Sessions is Deep State. Jeff has deep rooted connections to the Bush’s.

    Jeff Sessions has been in the Swamp far longer than Trey Gowdy has by age alone.

    Gowdy was the lone cry in the wilderness as Obama and Hillary took corruption to a new level.

    Trey Gowdy did not succeed, but he was one of the few who actually tried to shed light in a very dark period of American history.

    I honestly think that Trey Gowdy and Michael Horowitz are now best friends.

    I can see why.

    Gowdy and Horowitz have a lot in common.

    I FEEL GREAT about what’s to come.

    Get ready.

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  38. jeans2nd says:

    Something just does not feel right with this. Cannot put my finger on it.

    Nunes, in the Bartiromo segment, says they are now looking at the State Dept. That means Clinton, with the Cody Shearer and Sid Blumenthal memos which pre-date the Steele Dossier, iirc.

    Since these docs would be at State, why are they still trying to obtain docs from DOJ/FBI? Would one not look for these docs from State?

    Gowdy oversees State, previously chaired by Jason Chaffetz.
    Dunno. Requires more thinking.

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  39. jeans2nd says:

    This still looks to be two operations that were combined into one, prob somewhere around July 2016.

    The Misfud-Halper-Downer op, being the earlier one and instigated by the Podesta Dec 2015 email (Wikileaks), was the Clinton op, and included the Blumenthal-Shearer memoes to State Dept.
    Obama had his own op going, utilizing all the tools of the intelligence state.

    At some point around Jul 2016 Team Obama took over, and combined both ops into one – never let a crisis go to waste.
    Odds are Brennan had a hand in both. imo

    This may be behind withholding the Brennan original EC doc.
    Or not.

    Mid-Sep 2016, after the Brennan Gang of 8 individual briefings, a team was sent to brief the Gang of 12 , and to ask for their signatures on a bi-partisan memo warning Russia against further meddling. The team was DHS Sec Jeh Johnson, Obama DHS/CI advisor Lisa Monaco, and FBI Dir James Comey. Sen Mitch McConnell demurred (balked?), and no GOP signed until mid-Oct 2016. The briefers were sent by Obama Chief of Staff Dennis McDonough, according to James Clapper. This was confirmed by Joe Biden at Aspen couple three months ago (youtube vid).
    The direction came from the top of the White House hierarchy, Monaco and McDonough.

    McConnell and the GOP refusal to sign Obama’s agreement begins at 5:16 and runs to 6:00, and includes the ref to Dennis McDonough.

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