There is a massive amount of breaking news today. The reasoning behind the breaking news releases is that all participants are positioning.
In advance of DOJ and FBI declassification releases to congress, which will outline how the IC went around official channels for their political efforts against Donald Trump, the corrupt internal agents within the U.S. intelligence community are rabidly leaking to the New York Times and Washington Post. The IC now admit to the use of politically motivated National Security Letters from corrupt foreign officials. More on that later.
Additionally, President Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani reveals a conversation with the Robert Mueller team where the Special Counsel admit they have no legal jurisdiction to indict a sitting president. This is not new to those of us who have followed closely, but it will cause massive ‘splodey heads amid the left-wing moonbats who were kept clueless by an entrenched ideological media:
(Via CNN) Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has informed President Donald Trump’s attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President’s lawyer. “All they get to do is write a report,” Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani told CNN. “They can’t indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us.”
That conclusion is likely based on longstanding Justice Department guidelines. It is not about any assessment of the evidence Mueller’s team has compiled. A lack of an indictment would not necessarily mean the President is in the clear. Mueller could issue a report making referrals or recommendations to the House of Representatives.
The inability to indict a sitting president has been the position of the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department since the Nixon administration and reaffirmed in the Clinton administration, but it has never been tested in court. (read more)
“…the corrupt internal agents within the U.S. intelligence community are rabidly leaking to the New York Times and Washington Post….”
From the NYT link, above:
“….Democrats say that article pre-emptively exonerated Mr. Trump, dousing chances to raise questions about the campaign’s Russian ties before Election Day.
Just as the F.B.I. has been criticized for its handling of the Trump investigation, so too has The Times.
For Mr. Steele, it dashed his confidence in American law enforcement. “He didn’t know what was happening inside the F.B.I.,” Glenn R. Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, testified this year. “And there was a concern that the F.B.I. was being manipulated for political ends by the Trump people.”…”
” the F.B.I. was being manipulated for political ends by the Trump people”
These people at the NYT are real pieces of work, aren’t they? Do they sleep with a copy of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” under their pillow?
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Fanatics.
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True believers.
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Idiotic maroons.
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What an embezzle! What an ultramaroon!
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Physychosis
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They are opening the flood gates in panic.
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True DECEIVERS.
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I could only read a small bit before the paywall went up but it looked as though they were putting quite a spin on it
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It is so spun I had hurt my neck trying to read it upside down.
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HA!!🤣
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“Do they sleep with a copy of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals under their pillow?”. No, they sleep with it clutched tightly next to their black hearts.
Good post, deplorable_infidel.
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NYT reporters, editors, and columnists (one and the same job nowadays) don’t rest their heads on pillows. They sleep fitfully, hanging upside down from the rafters.
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“columnists”
You spelled “communists” wrong
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Brilliant.
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I second that, nimrodman! ;-))
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They need to be hanging from the lighting trusses at Certainly Not News et al studios and right side up…
Along with the fascist globalist enemedia puppets that promote their propaganda lies and support the destruction of the US of A.
Sedition. All of them have committed it and many are traitors FOR SURE as well.
Buy stock in hemp rope, it’s about to skyrocket. (not really, if needed to be stated.)
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He’s got a cold
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Any lie that damages the President is a “good” lie in the mind of the resistance. Truth was the first casualty in the Mueller investigation, and it will not be resuscitated until the IG report is published.
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How the hell could Trump have connections inside the FBI to manipulate them, when all FBI were so blatantly anti Trump and pro Hillary and Obama?
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Trump should, tomorrow, declassify every document regarding this “investigation” as Jordan, Meadows and DeSantis requested.
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Yes, he should. Right on. Head Muelley off at the pass.
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I notice mueller did not say whether or not he found anything incriminating. He said he could not indict a sitting President. His evidence could still be used.
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Evidence? There is no evidence. If they had anything, it would have been leaked…repeatedly, like everything else connected to this investigation. They can’t indict President Donald Trump, because they have nothing to indict him on. All they’re doing is throwing out the suggestion that there MIGHT be something, in an attempt to save face, and justify their wasting tax payer dollars for a purely political witch hunt.
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That’s why Mueller is so anxious to interview/interrogate DJT. If Trump makes a single grammatical error, the fascist Left can start screaming, “Indict! Impeach! Impale!” However, it ain’t going to happen.
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Yes, I wish he would. It’s really the right thing to do.
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Been swing it for months…….. de-classify everything….the. watch em run
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saying
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Wait until the IG report comes out. The left will be so busy with that they will never notice it’s now all out in the open declassified. Then indictments better start happening or this country will be further torn apart.
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There are 30,000+ sealed case files in the US federal court system. That’s a 30 year supply which built up over 6 months +/-. Some will be plea deals, where prosecution is by criminal information rather than indictment. The rest will be indictments with arrest warrants. Be comforted that they will be unsealed at a time of the DOJs choosing – and almost all are outside of the political bubble known as Washington DC. (Yes, there are plenty of white hats at the DOJ district offices). Leftist heads will be spinning so fast they’ll not know which way is up. Then their heads will go splodey. Red Wave Rising.
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They did ask nicely!
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yes, about time…
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Every step had to be taken. Every opportunity given.
If Judicial won’t/can’t act upon a Constitutionally valid request for information, imho, in order to uphold the Constitutional requirement of oversight, the Executive Must.
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The Executive will. That was already tweeted plainly for even the dumbmasses to understand…
I have always had a good laugh at the enemedia puppets who discuss for hours the way “he” (President Donald J. Trump, Master Troll, “speaks and writes at what seems like an elementary or middle school level.”
It’s the only way to get the generations of twits, snowflakes, wearers of the pussy and colon hats, and overall indoctrinated morons out there being socially engineered and steered on an hourly basis to finally get, contemplate, understand and accept the evil that surrounds us all.
Once enough have, all hell will break loose… for the betterment of us all.
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“https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/crossfire-hurricane-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.html”
(BECAUSE Brennan sent Strozk to talk to Derstrepka. Destrpreka alerted Putin to a weakness in our Judicial system to exploit…not favor one candidate over the other but to undermine our system of elections through propaganda…Propaganda begun by our own Inteligence agency. Brennan created the environment for this very conflict)
“But underpinning both cases was one political calculation: that Mrs. Clinton would win and Mr. Trump would lose. Agents feared being seen as withholding information or going too easy on her. And they worried that any overt actions against Mr. Trump’s campaign would only reinforce his claims that the election was being rigged against him.”
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Copper-Levin has spent the lasting hour reading and dissecting this article. Very well done. Most important is that we now know exactly how they’re going to spin the IG reports.
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Indeed. Once these devoted public servants (DIPS) began playing politics –fearing this, promoting that– they suborned their Sacred Oaths of Orrifice [spare us] to become fair game for any Ka-Bar prosecutor such as Giuliani.
Acting with manifest ill-will, in bad faith under false pretenses, just what did they think was going to happen? Ah, yes: “Think.” To a Rat mealworm of blighted intellectual-moral-withal spiritual capacity, that is the problem.
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Wait, wait. You uttered the sacred word ‘mealworm.’ (Whispers very quietly.) Do not let my hens hear that DC is filled with large specimens of this tasty treat or I will lose every last one of them. Mr. Trump needs look no further than loyal hens across the USA if he wishes to rid us of the dread m e a l w o r m infestation! 😉
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SHHHHHH!!! My chickens read here daily. Are you trying to start a chicken riot? Both of you just STOP it with the M-E-A-L_-_-_-_-_!!!
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Mealworms= chicken crack!
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On how I miss my girls….throw them some mealw…….oops, sorry, um, chicken crack and they were like veloceraptors. Wait, if the chicken population was turned on to the load of w%&ms in DC, they’d be cleaned out in no time. Little veloceraptors indeed.
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Intriguing that the Operation “Crossfire Hurricane” team copped their name from the opening line to “Jumping Jack Flash,” because clues as to the origins and motivation for the scheme also can be found in the lyrics:
“I was raised by a toothless, bearded hag …
I frowned at the crumbs of a crust of bread”
So to, the fate which should rightly await the conspirators, now that the jig is up:
“I was crowned with a spike right through my head”
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That name might be just Times’ fiction.
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Page and Strozk refer to CF in their texts. People thought they were referring to the Clinton Foundation altho that didn’t make sense contextually. Now it appears that CF stood for their secret operation Crossfire Hurricane.
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Don’t care what muller does other than tax dollars are wasted but that is what they are known for, waste and garbage. Don’t care what others say or think. I do my own thinking. I do like that the IG report doesn’t get in the media every day. I like that a lot of people think AG Session is asleep at his job. When the Dept of Justice is working in the correct way the public shouldn’t know what is going on until it gets before a judge. I think SD has spoiled me as I don’t visit Drudge every day. I spend my time on the CTH. It is simply a better place to get the insight I want. My kind of folks.
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4harrison- you are so right. I feel very much at home at the Tree House. Good to be with smart people who aren’t afraid to express their patriotism and common sense.
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It’s rather sad, though, that we feel free to express our patriotism here (and sometimes, only here), isn’t it?
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Yes, it is very sad.
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I find 8ch.net/qresearch is the best hang out for international deep research, analysis and merry prankster fun conducted by absolute geniuses and patriots. The board gives a big picture, global view of whats going on as well as heads up on whats coming down the pike in various arenas/fields of battle. It helps me note news items that otherwise would go unnoticed and gives me the ability to put news into a bigger perspective. It’s a blast having that insight and “navigational assistance” so I don’t get lost in the weeds. Obviously this site is great for focusing on a few of the story lines that are pieces of the bigger war being waged. Rantingly.com is a good news aggregator that allows me to check whats surfacing in normie world. Finally, reddit the Donald is a hilarious fan generated news aggregator and place to go for p beat stories, jokes and memes. It’s the place to go to get re charged.
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I felt VERY free to express my patriotism on Twitter but yesterday found an app that could tell me if I was being shadow-banned. The ap was developed by a Conservative who claimed ALL conservatives were shadow-banned. I used the app and indeed, ALL the patriotic propaganda I’ve been pushing out on Twitter for over a year never got printed on Twitter. Not a single Tweet in my name exists, though Twitter stats on my site say I have written 20.1K Tweets.
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#metoo
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LOL…#metoo!!!!
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I think far too many people are still truly addicted to tell lie vision and the bovine scat of faux “news” talking heads. The worst way possible to form opinion, or better yet discern the actuality of “events” and “situations” is to fill your mind with the literal propaganda of paid globalist puppets… and as faux (Fox) news was labeled long ago by me (among my friends and acquaintances) I find it ironic that fake news is the big buzz phrase that President Trump has made it these days.
It would be funny if this time period weren’t so wonderfully serious. I wish more would try just one week without listening to multi-million dollar talking heads on “Fox News”… and see how it feels. To me, years ago, it felt like liberty. An agency all my own… and if full control of my attitude, “emotions”, and thoughts/conclusions.
As it should be. “News” should just be “what happened”. lol killery… not what happened and here’s what you should think.
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Now NYT claiming that Muelley will make him an unindicted co conspirator in a case agains Jr. Good Grief nuke these bastids.
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And the President is going to sit back and let them send his son to jail?
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Nope.
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Leaks galore as they go in to total panic. Fake no doubt.
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THEY ARE DEAD 💀!
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Fleporblog…your three little words…likey
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I love how Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes continually reveal the truth whenever the swamp tries to obfuscate.
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the Russian Lawyer also happens to be the neighbor of the person that comey leaked his info too that started the Mueller investigation
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…and was granted a special waiver to enter the US by Preet Bhara, US Attorney for SDNY and of course the State Dept.
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Citation please for ruuian lawyer being neighbor….
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https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exclusive-james-comeys-leaker-friend-guess-who-his-neighbor-is/
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@Flep…You know I love you. But they aren’t dead until they are really dead. Not ‘wow, they look bad now’ -sorta dead, but actually put out of commission, arrests, trials, convictions and sentences -dead.
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In my eyes 👀 they are already six feet under 😉
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Frankly, they are dead already. Their energy is evil, their actions are sick. They are mainly and nearly all narcissists. Anyone that “loves/HATES” themselves are dead inside. Anyone that is evil is dead inside. Anyone that can murder or be accessory to murder… is dead inside.
The pedos- dead inside.
Human traffickers- dead inside.
Traitors-dead inside.
Etc… the list could go on and on. Totalitarian fascists- DEAD INSIDE.
And sadly, (for all us too) the perpetual leech crowd of “free ride” existence only…
Dead. Inside. Celebrating In Dependence day each day, no character, no self-respect, and no dignity.
IOW, I agree! I have been telling people that he!! no I don’t watch the “walking dead” or zombie this or that, why would I need to? I am out in the “real” world every day and get more than my fill of the zombie apocalypse!
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THC that was awesome!
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That’s the problem. Mueller is a government employee. He’s not acting as a private citizen or law firm. He can’t be sued.
The only recommendation I would bring is to file a complaint with the Bar Association. Investigate Mueller through the Bar for abuse of power, defamation (if such is the case)…
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If it can be proven he acted outside his scope or authority, then yes he can be sued, government employee or not
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Section 1983 his azz bigly! Deprivation of civil rights under color of law.
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I do not trust Mueller. I do not like his statement as it implies that the President did something wrong. Is that Mueller’s plan to save face? Write a report that implies a wrongdoing? This is a political Witch Hunt! When will there be Justice?
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Robert Mueller has been dragged, kicking and screaming, to ADMIT that he CANNOT indict a sitting President.
What this means for Mueller is that he is ADMITTING to his UniParty/ClintonMachine masters that HE FAILED. His marching orders were to get President Trump indicted EVEN IF it meant violating DOJ policy and precedent.
So now Mueller has to SAVE HIS SKIN from the punishment he surely will get from the UniParty/ClintonMachine/DEEPSTATE Hit Unit.
What will Mueller do? Couple of things come to mind right away: First: try to get to President Trump by the “side door” of going after Don Jr. and/or some other member of the Trump family or its inner circle. Object: President Trump pulled in as “un-indicted co-conspirator”. Second (and this may happen simultaneously with the above or just before/after the above): File a report that has JUST ENOUGH lies, innuendo, twisted half-truths, to the House in order to get the President impeached.
Remember: Robert Mueller now has to do anything possible to SAVE HIS OWN SKIN.
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I’m with you, Lion. Given what we have seen and learned thus far, hard to trust him. I still would like to know when/how this witch hunt ends. The President has clipped right along with his many accomplishments but this has to be a grind. These people are ruthless.
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Mueller is a prosecutor not a judge. His job is to indict upon sufficient evidence THEN prove his case in court. That’s it. This report is a means to avoid the latter part of his job and trick the populace into believing horse head’s a judge.
The glorified press release he issued with the phony indictment of Russian click baiters is exhibit A in why Mueller & his team of DNC operatives shouldn’t be allowed to release a report of their oppo research for the purposes of impeachment. When unexpectedly scrutinized in court it’s turning out to be a load of horse hockey.
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Mueller investigation is all a poison-tree anyway.
Mueller had issues, should have recused/been recused.
Begun with fraudulent documents.
DNC-payments involved with some players.
Includes work product of Strzok-of-proven-bias.
Indicted a ham sandwich.
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I agree…by saying he can not indict POTUS he is implying that he would indict him if he could.
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So, it has finally dawned on everyone what we have preaching on this forum for almost a year now? Nope, a sitting President cannot be indicted by anyone other than the House of Representatives. The Constitution lays this out clearly–and whatever opinion the DOJ may have on it is irrelevant. SCOTUS would have laughed them out of court.
And so here comes the report.
No, the report will not be to save face. Oh, they will candy-coat a bunch in there to CYA, but by far, this report will be designed to convince the House of Representatives to indict the President (called impeachment if it is an elected or appointed official who is indicted).
They are hoping that the Nov. elections will bring a blue wave to the House and Trump will still go down despite their failure to uncover any evidence. This would be a crooked political indictment just like the worst third-world countries we can imagine do every day.
Oh wait–He won’t.
They again miss the elephant in the room. An impeachment by the house doesn’t mean a dang thing. Clinton was impeached and his Presidency never missed a beat.
The reason for this is because next, the impeached President gets a trial in the Senate presided over by the Chief Justice of SCOTUS.
It will then take a 2/3 vote by the Senate if he is to be expelled from office, at which time he legally could be indicted.
But we KNOW there is not a blue wave possible in the Senate–we know a Republican President would would never get a 2/3 vote from a Republican Senate (or anything near a Republican Senate) to remove a him from office. Never in the history of our country has a sitting President been removed from office by the Senate.
This stuff is just stupid, folks…..But it is over. And if we can ever get Jeff Sessions off his buttocks (hope springs eternal), it will soon be our turn to show hundreds of American seditionists some new bars.
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Yep. Game over for Mueller. Have no fear. Of course he’s trying to make it sound as if he would indict if he could. No one with two brain cells to rub together believes him! It’s abundantly clear that he has nothing to show for his year of folly.
The Mueller Witch Hunt is No More. It is pushing up daisies. It has run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. It is an ex-Witch Hunt.
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Jerrydon You were doing so well until your Sessions derangement kicked in. Honestly you guys are as silly as those on the Left who believe all Trump does is golf and tweet. Get well soon please.
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Does our President also have Sessions Derangement Syndrome?
We get our information directly from PDJT’s tweets. It is my President who is unhappy with the performance. of Jeff Sessions. Let me guess, you have not seen all those tweets?
I’m not sure who you voted for, but I can assure you I did not vote for Jeff Sessions. I am a Trump supporter.
And when people in his cabinet no longer seem to publicly support him and threaten to resign when PDJT attempts to drain the DOJ swamp rather than help him in that endeavor, I want them gone–like yesterday……
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Jerry Don, you’re so correct. And, just now, Sessions is on the wrong side of Right again by siding with the deep staters to not release unredacted 2nd Charging memo from RR to Mueller.
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Amen.
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I want to know who and what authority approved the wasting of 100s of millions of dollars in this stupid investigation. I bet it was Obammy. He ain’t a sitting President so he can be indicted for his massive crimes.
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By making the case that a SITTING President cannot be indicted, Guliani also is making the point that a President can be ONCE HE’S OUT OF OFFICE. He thus is making it clear that the Trump Justice Department is coming after former President Obama, with a sh*tload of evidence, and sooner rather than later.
The Mueller investigation has been permitted to drag on just as long as it has taken for the Justice Department IG and out-of-Washington prosecutors to quietly build their case against the Operation “Crossfire Hurricane” cabal.
Also, since the individuals involved with that effort are the same as those who conspired to exonerate Hillary Clinton, it’s like a two-fer. The New York Times knows it, but they were not about to touch that latter rail in their pathetic, pre-emptive story out today. When the IG report drops and indictments are handed down, the MSM will need to hire Cirque du Soleil contortionists to spin it.
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Ronald J Foreman, sez…
“The Mueller investigation has been permitted to drag on just as long as it has taken for the Justice Department IG and out-of-Washington prosecutors to quietly build their case against the Operation “Crossfire Hurricane” cabal.”
Excellent and Interesting point!!!
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The Mueller Investigation was also a way for the American people to organically get over the Russian collusion hysteria and become aware of the utter corruption in the Swamp so that when arrests and prosecutions begin they won’t appear as the actions of a dictator going after his political opponents. An added bonus of the Mueller White Hunt is that it has made Trump a sympathetic figure, an underdog fighting against unfair attacks from powerful elites who want to stop him from helping the American people. Trump needed a years grace period to build up a record of tangible successes. Now people can wonder what he could have accomplished if he hadn’t been so viciously attacked from all sides 24/7. Mueller helped Trump change from a traitor/Putins Puppet into Americas Hero who needs our support to save him from the EVIL Democrats. Hello November 2018 elections. Wittingly or unwittingly, Mueller has been a God send. Without him NONE of the above would have been possible. Thank God Sessions stepped aside and let this movie unfold.
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“He thus is making it clear that the Trump Justice Department is coming after former President Obama, with a sh*tload of evidence, and sooner rather than later.”
THIS is what I have been saying for a year and a half now. You’d be a fool to think that President Trump is going to leave someone in the Justice Department who won’t do his job (i.e., Sessions). Too much is at stake for Trump to just let these people walk–and it’s not just President Trump who is in danger; it’s his entire family who will suffer if these criminals aren’t dealt with correctly. Therefore, Sessions must be doing exactly what Trump wants; otherwise, he’d be toast long before now.
You MIGHT screw over Trump–maybe, but you sure as hell aren’t going to screw over his family!
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And aided and abetted by multitudes of useful idiots clinging to the fantasy — who were goaded, herded, and encouraged by a complicit news media.
Perfect midterm campaign material, don’t you think?
Just toss up the amount of taxpayer dollars tossed in the toilet by the Democrats and the NeverTrumpers — money that could have been spent on useful, beneficial things for…American taxpayers — and let the public decide come come election day. The ads, they write themselves (and the memes). 😉
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Rudy Giuliani said two weeks, remember?
Let’s wait for the wording of corrupt Mueller’s report. I think Mueller will be going back home because of Horowitz releasing his report in bits and parcels. Plus, unredacted stuff coming up.
After doing the utmost to please his masters, Mueller will be crawling back into his hole.
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Holes can be backfilled.
Wonder what, Sylvia, is doing??
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Sylvia, clean up needed on aisle 3! 🚾
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Are you SURE you know who Mueller’s master is? For a double agent to be effective they must be utterly believable. Art of War.
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Weeks ago Sundance made an important point. He observed that among all the interwoven threads of corruption that presumably are the subject of ongoing OIG and criminal investigations, the FISA/FISC abuse can and should be separated out and exposed, right away, no compelling reason to delay.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/04/10/representative-matt-gaetz-is-exactly-right-big-picture-doj-covering-fisa-abuse/
Point being that while there is good reason to protect evidence gathered as part of an ongoing investigation (e.g., potential witness statements or reported timelines), the relevant FISA documents are a complete existing record (e.g., the unredacted FISC decision, the Carter Page Title-1 application, and formal internal papers like the “electronic communication” that started the counter-intelligence investigation). Remember — the traditional default is that applications to and orders (or reports) issued by a court are *public record* (even though the blackouts for privacy and national security are ever-expanding . . .).
The FISA documents constitute an exercise of government authority on matters of the most pressing and significant public national interest. And yet for nearly two years, the Congress and the public have been assured by law enforcement bodies wielding ultimate powers that our national security depends on us *not* seeing these official acts of state.
I bring this up now, while we consider the release of the “Clinton email” OIG report, because as much as we all anticipate what are likely to be eye-popping findings — the report won’t touch upon the part of the saga most pertinent to where we are today, plodding along (STILL!) amidst the Mueller Muh Russia investigation. That piece is still likely a month or so away.
And so I wonder if what we just saw transpire last week and this week in the exchange between Congress and the executive branch is the choreography to get that information released. Nunes is clearly fed up. He knows even with the Clinton report on its way, it will be longer still until the FISA aspect comes to light, and even then the OIG report will be necessarily constrained in scope.
Most importantly — he knows he’s absolutely right to assert Congressional oversight prerogatives over the Justice department. White hat or black hat is beside the point — whatever the underlying strategy or motivation — the simple fact of the matter is that FBI/DOJ have flagrantly bucked the Constitutional order by avoiding legitimate Congressional requests. Why would or should Nunes back down? The way Nunes is operating seems entirely consistent with Sundance’s assessment of things: I’ll wait for the OIG reports and respect the veil of secrecy around criminal investigations — but release the FISA/FISC records. Congress, too, has a role in weighing what’s in the public interest.
This is getting along, so I’ll cut to the chase. Credibly threatening a contempt vote on *Sessions* (as opposed to RR) upped the stakes considerably. It’s a move that means business. I think the upshot of last week’s meeting was the letter to the President from the Freedom Caucus issued today. The jig us up, the information is coming out. The reason Nunes and Gowdy went into the meeting with fire & fury and came out talking about “productive meetings” is that they got what they wanted. The President will order compliance with the congressional requests.
I don’t think we’re going to have wait for phase 3 to start getting answers on FISA.
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New here- Brilliant analysis. I hope you’re right.
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Thanks. Me too. 🙂
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Newhere_ you dont seem “new” to me! Excellent post!! Thank you!
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Hah! I read it as ‘N’ ‘e’ where. ..
Good post n e hoo
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Your analysis reflects the ongoing disagreement even here on CTH: there is a good reason or a bad reason. We shall see.
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I wonder at times if the hold up isn’t caused by embarrassed FISC judges.
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Remember the judge is still reviewing wether the application that the committee was in possession of is the same as what the court has. Judge is comparing both. Has that been resolved?
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I thought judge was waiting on approval by DOJ to release.
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The FISA Court Judge did in fact advise HPSCI that they saw no issues with them getting the report, but it was up to the DOJ to release the report. The FISA Court abuse report had implications of criminal wrong doing which was therefore referred to the DOJ for further review to determine what US applicable laws were violated and by whom. The FISA Court did its part, the DOJ is now compelled to do a more in depth investigation just like they did with McCabe for his lack of candor case. Which brings up another can of worms for McCabe and all others that were involved in the FISA Court abuse, so McCabe’s troubles are just getting deeper and deeper. I have not seen or read anything about this issue (minus IG activities) and this is a very big civil rights violation issue. All you have to do is review who all handled/touched the FISA application which should give you an idea to the scope of the internal investigation (parallel to IG’s investigation) and why HPSCI will most likely not get the report. Nothing prohibits the HPSCI from viewing it in a SCIF, they just can’t take it with them, if they aren’t being allowed to do that, than it could mean only mean one thing, pending legal actions!
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Sounds like a plan. Thank You Jim Jordan et al
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Leftist Hack Sally Yates signed the first app. Was that the one turned down?
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Agree. If the probable cause of these fraudulent warrants is overturned Mueller is toast. His investigation is exposed as a sham and everything derived from the warrants will be legally tainted and get tossed.
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Nicely done, Newhere.
The documents regarding FISA are not being released willy nilly.
Constitutional requirements and Oversight Require it!! Imho, they Demand it.
If Judicial can not or will not…
Executive must, imho, in order to uphold the Constitution.
Every procedural step has been taken.
Every opportunity to comply given.
Each refinement/demand for Oversight is a step in the process, and all of the steps must be taken.
Show Time!!!
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Newhere, your observations are appreciated!
“The FISA documents constitute an exercise of government authority on matters of the most pressing and significant public national interest. And yet for nearly two years, the Congress and the public have been assured by law enforcement bodies wielding ultimate powers that our national security depends on us *not* seeing these official acts of state.”
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Q posted a while ago a picture implying Trump would sign an order to release what Nunes wants. The pressure just needs to build so the optics are that he’s deferring to the will of the people.
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Unless Mueller outright declares there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, a indictment and guilt will be presumed.
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That is precisely why he made the statement the way he did. It’s all about the perception. He knows full well maxine and company will hail this as “see we told you”.
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Similar language from the Senate investigation led by Mark Warner – “we conclude that there is evidence that Russia meddled in the election in various ways in an effort to elect Trump..”
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I agree.
And the vicious anti-Trump MSM will continue to assume and take up massive airtime covering Mueller’s innuendos. If anything, they’ll get more anonymous sources.
Hillary and the Dems don’t let go easily.
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The more they talk impeachment, the more votes R’s get in Nov.
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The more D votes stay home in frustration too.
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YES. That is the key.
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Folks it is over and I will explain why I am so confident!
MUELLER, MSM, DEMOCRATS, LEFTIST, GLOBALIST ARE DEAD!
I wrote the following tweet to Candace, Charlie Kirk, Don Jr. and our President:
From the article linked above:
The percentage of voters who approve of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as President is at the highest level measured by the PPD Poll since March 2017. The gain in his approval rating is in large part fueled by an increase in support among minority voters, specifically black voters.
Overall, 48% approve of the way Mr. Trump is handling his job as President, including 31% (31.4) who “Strongly approve” and 17% (16.6) who at least “Somewhat approve.” That gives him a slightly 1-point intensity edge. While it may be small, it comes after roughly a year of the intensity index favoring those who disapprove.
DEATH 💀! DEATH 💀! DEATH 💀! DEATH 💀!
Now, 44% (43.6) of HISPANIC and a record 27% (26.6) of BLACK voters at least somewhat approve of the way Mr. Trump is handling his job as President.
“The bump in support for President Trump among black voters we’ve seen recently in other polls, is real,” Rich Baris, the Director of the Big Data Poll (PPD Poll) and PPD Election Projection Model said.
“We don’t know whether it’s temporary, how long it’ll last if it is or whether some increased support will remain. But it’s definitely real.”
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Here is their reality folks and there is crap 💩 they can do to change it!
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Former Bernie Bro/Progressives, led by H A Goodman, who has a large social media following and YT channel are pushing for everyone to get out and vote straight Republican in 2018. They are motivated by hatred of Clinton and DNC corruption and see Trump as their ONLY chance to achieve their goals. This is a VERY energized voting base that I don’t see people taking note of yet. Everyone seems focused exclusively on whats happening to the black voting bloc. LOL.
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I am so impressed by H A. He has already announced he is voting for our President in 2020. He has also finally admitted that Bernie was in on the DNC fraud and he showed it by kissing the clintoon ring.
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Bernie throws in the towel, gets a third house. Says it all. When they say they don’t like rich people, they mean they don’t want you to be rich.
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WOW 😲 I didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing
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btw, cnn reports on navarro being left out of china talks and blowing up at mnuchin.
this is days after revealed that Halper and Navarro are connected (ostensibly through their anti china trade stances)..
could we have found a spy in the midst?
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could this also explain NoKo seemingly illogical about face? Has the anti trumpers sent China some orders to push Kim to kibosh a peace treaty?
are the anti trumpers that devious?! that evil?
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That are that devious because they are filled with hate.
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Soros certainly is.
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I’m thinking the NK situation is a media driven attempt to panic people and also to provide cover by way of distraction from something else.
NK knew about those military training maneuvers already (they aren’t THAT horrible at spying!); this could be a face saving gesture on Kim’s part or a nothingburger spin by our media.
Of course, never rule out deviousness, but I’m still confident that this will not turn out to be a big deal.
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Same here. The hostage release was huge.
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I was saying to hubby the other day that I found it strange that rocket man would be raising a ruckus AFTER the release of the hostages.
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Wow. That is really going to make me stop and think a couple of minutes. If Peter Navarro is an informant to Stefan Halper (CIA), that is just incredible. And, of course, Mnuchin is going to ban him! Is this some official 2 way street now? CNN works as informants for the CIA and FBI and then they get all of their leaks in return? Just like the WaPo has historically spun stories for the CIA- now CNN is the TV version of that? This is just an incredible development.
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Hold your horses everyone (hmm repeating myself after debunking the B-52’s being pulled from the US/SK exercises the other day).
According to the WH, Peter Navarro WILL be attending the US/China trade talks.
Those little Chinese whispers started by someone turned into a Chinese firedrill by the upstanding and ‘we are not fake news’ wankerati.
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Thanks A2. Good explanation.
My brow was definitely furrowed over the Stefan Halper is Peter Navarro’s handler story. I’ve watched Peter Navarro on business news for years and his position on China has always been really clear. He was also really supportive of Trump as far as I can recall because they saw eye to eye on China. So I am looking at this with Suspicious Cat eyes…
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That’s a relief. Bad enough with CNN hiring former leakers like Clapper. I hadn’t thought of Navarro in that light, but truth be told, I don’t watch CNN unless I force myself to hear what the other side is saying. It’s usually accompanied by a beer.
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Carrie, ZJr. is not saying that Navarro is spying/providing info to Halper; just that their anti-China views are similar. Not “an incredible development”.
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Where is the link to this supposed navarro halper connection?
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Saagar Enjeti
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NEW: WH official tells me Peter Navarro WILL be in the trade meeting with Chinese delegation tomorrow contradicting earlier reports
2:23 PM – 16 May 2018
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Sorry. I thought you meant the link to debunking the fake Navarro fantasy fictions making the rounds.
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They run in the same circles about China. Stefan Halper wrote a review about Navarro’s book Crouching Tiger.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/258524/crouching-tiger-by-peter-navarro/9781633881143/
I believe I read elsewhere they are sometimes on stage together to discuss China (need to find that again).
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CNN reports. Enough said.
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Mueller desperately wanted to find a smoking gun or star witness that would enable an indictment of Trump, and he would not have hesitated to do so had he had the backing of a Federal star chamber. Instead, Trump set up an offshore surveillance task force that has been monitoring Mueller’s merry band of conspirators and the Huber investigation has been patiently waiting in the wings hoping that Mueller would indict, thereby committing an overt act of sedition. Mueller backed down when he realized that he was the one in the cross-hairs.
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Gee it’s looking like Muellers Investigation was a honey pot/containment site for plotters, a distraction for the media and soma for the Swamp. If Trump wasnt so dumb you might think this was intentional /s.
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I don’t think Mueller’s report will implicate Trump because there is nothing there. It will be much like the NYTimes article today, providing cover and justification for the actions of the FBI and CIA.
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Trump should Mulehead to pound sand. It is Mulehead that is on the run, not our vsg POTUS.
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Trump should tell…..my stupid iPad is being naughty again.
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Spank it and put it to bed early!
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(Sung to the tune of “Camptown Races”)
“Gonna go get some Popcorn!
Do – Dah! Do – Dah!!
Gonna go get some Popcorn
Oh the Do – Dah Day!
Oh the Do – Dah Day! Oh the Do Dah Day! ……”
I cannot wait for these weasels to start pleading the 5th in front of a grand jury …… especially Comey, Brennan and Clapper.
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Howie inspired?
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Why bless yer peapickin’ heart, lemme help ya, Mr. R from Massachusetts:
Gwine ta go get some popcorn now,
Doo da, doo da,
Gwine ta get me some popcorn now,
Oh de doo da day!
Tired from tossin’ all de night!
Tired from waitin’ all de day!
Somebody bet on de Mueller nag
I’se agwine-uh bet on de Wray!
Oooooh! Treehouse ladies sing dis song
Doo dah! doo dah!
Justice dramas take too long!
Oh de doo da day!
😁
Hope I helped! It is a song of the South, so I thought a Massachusetts man might miss a few verses.
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Even the NYSlime can’t soften the reality that is about to drop! The IG report is going to be beyond our wildest dreams if the Slime is putting this out!
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what woman signing off on spying? is that a reference to Lisa Page?
Or, perchance, Gina Haspel?!
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And Gina Haspel, career CIA employee has say over the DOJ/FBI how?
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I believe that is Ms. Yates.
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I think she refers to Sally Yates
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No! I think it is good ole Sally Yates!
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Hopefully rudi gets in two words before laura interupts
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God bless and keep Rudy. May Angels protect him.
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Yes, the interrupting was annoying. She wants to appease the left in her interviews and I don’t know why. She might turn into a Shepard Smith if she is not careful. Right now I still like her positions, but her interviews need to be interviews and not position statements.
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Notwithstanding hilarious James Woods response to her recent “awakening”, yeah if this is the sentiment at the Slimes, it Will be popcorn time. 🍿
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its funny,,,everyone is still running with the bs insurance policy interpretation that a WSJ hack published back in December…
but note the Nunes report..last page I believe—Nunes knows the true interpretation
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I do like me some Mollie Hemingway. She gets it.
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The NYT story focuses on FISA and the effort to undermine Trump. The IG report will focus on the prequal: the Clinton email non-vestigation. Plus, the IG report is still a couple weeks out. So it seems unlikely this desperate NYT yarn is pre-spinning the IG report . . . spurs cautious optimism about FISA declassification may be imminent.
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I am optimistic about scope. The fake dossier, the lying FISA warrant, the Mueller witch hunt – every one of them was done as a smokescreen to cover up the crimes of the Clinton Foundation.
Does “It’s not the crime, it’s the coverup?” ring a bell for anyone?
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Steph, yes it is the cover up, but a necessary one to cover their guilty arses.
The IC “ABC” agencies are guilty six ways from sunday, and the evidence is overwhelming.
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One note of clarification. Downer was not the Australian Ambassador. Australia is a member of the Commonwealth. Mr. Downer was a member of the Australian High Commission in London. I have been hearing him called the Australian Ambassador all week which is inaccurate.
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Recently, there are a lot of rats being outed in Australia including a shipping company that bought NK coal and labelled Russian imports by a big company majority owned by Chinese with an Aussie front team.
Another ‘former Ambassador’ also taking heat for his rabidly pro-China statements.
The Chinese United Front infiltration in Australia is a big controversy and not going away.
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To January 1993, we presumed your typical scuttering Rat was at least a “loyal opposition.” But as pundit-emeritus Michael Barone put it in Spring 2009, “This Administration is a criminal gang masquerading as a political party.”
We’re with Prof. ‘enry ‘iggins: “… a man of grace-and-polish, who never spoke above a hush, / All at once you’re using language that would make a sailor blush.”
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It’s over. They came up empty handed. That secret FBI interview of Andrew Downer the NYTimes is reporting on must not have turned up “dirt”.
Alexander Downer, signing off
JACQUELIN MAGNAY
April 28, 2018
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/alexander-downer-signing-off/news-story/02cd18d37828c8957bfb62b18e411595
-snip-
Did you realise you were one of the first people to have known about this dirt?
Downer doesn’t hesitate: “He didn’t say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didn’t say what it was.’’
Downer’s conversation with Papadopoulos then apparently drifted into other areas, such as what Trump as president would be like on foreign policy…
-snip-
EXCLUSIVE: A London Meeting Before The Election Aroused George Papadopoulos’s Suspicions
Chuck Ross
03/25/2018
http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/25/george-papadopoulos-london-emails/
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According to a source with knowledge of the meeting, Halper asked Papadopoulos: “George, you know about hacking the emails from Russia, right?”
Papadopoulos told Halper he didn’t know anything about emails or Russian hacking, said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign. The professor did not follow up on the line of inquiry.
-snip-
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I had a thought. Yes, thats the wood burning that you smell. Anyway, the UK royal wedding is Saturday, 5/19. Could some juicy info drop be on Friday or Saturday to mess that all up for the MSM who I guess will have their news readers over there?
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Been thinking about that probability as well.
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Please let it be true. No disrespect to the Queen, I like the Queen. I used to be interested in her husband (good athlete, cool independent spirit, but alas, a total globalist). I like Wils and Kate. I felt very bad for Diana.
But I absolutely despise Charles, and his younger son Harry, also a globalist, possibly made a disparaging hand gesture when photographed with Beautiful Melania. And Harry’s finance is rumored to be a spirit-cooking occultist. Yuck. Wouldn’t shed a tear if their publicity took a hit from from wedding day MOABs!
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Some VERY juicy info about, say, UK intel operatives, agencies and front companies aiding and abetting a seditious conspiracy against the United States of America? Yeah, that would create some excitement at this wedding I will not bother to watch.
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The word “indict” and President Trump shouldn’t be in the same sentence.
So, this isn’t anything to celebrate. It is something to feel sick to your stomach about. Sick, that this country has been so corrupted by Obama that this is what we get to celebrate. “Yay, no indictment.”
Sick.
Mueller and Rosenstein are the agents of evil. President Trump’s eventual triumph won’t alter that fact in any way.
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Prem-excellent post. We knew Hussein was the Great Satan but I don’t think anyone even imagined the extent of the evil and depravity.
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The extent of the evil and depravity will become known in the same fashion an elephant is eaten. One bite at at time.
“Take small bites”. 🙂
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Yep… I just posted on this very thing a few posts down. I am just sick over what these evil people have done and are doing. I can’t even fathom how the thought process works inside people so evil that they are good with ruining people lives while acting as though they are the good guys. I’m having trouble coming up with strong enough words to explain how sick at heart I am. Unmitigated evil.
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Why are you so sure about Rosenstein or Mueller? Anyone who stood up to the forces of EVIL risked being destroyed, killed and their families endangered while the media swept it under the rug. EVIL controlled all branches of government and the courts. So again, why are you so sure about anyone NOW based solely on their past compliance/cooperation with EVIL? POTUS is offering people a chance for redemption. His plans require believable double agents. President Trump would have looked for people who were trapped who still had a core of goodness he could leverage with the promise of a pardon. Naturally I don’t know who Trumps double agents are but amuses me to note how dertain some people are about who the bad guys are NOW. They clearly haven’t read the Art of War. Thank God Trump has.
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We’ll see Mueller again during the Uranium One indictments.
Mr. Rudy Giuliani should become the DOJ Czar. We’ll need him to consult with for the RICO trials.
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CzarAG. Giuliani is proactive. Which is what we need, not a bump on a log.LikeLiked by 1 person
Ok, we shouldn’t let the FBI have all the fun.
They should not be the one who give a coded name to the WITCH HUNT AGAINST TRUMP.
So, let’s have a Treeper contest! Let’s pick the name the WITCH HUNT should have had.
I’ll start off with
LYINGSOB’SATTHECIAANDFBI
That’s my choice. Anybody wanna take a stab at it????
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WHICH HUNT?AGAINST TRUMP?YEP!
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Nothin’ From Nothin’ is Nothin’.
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Super cali fragile istic textbe alodocius.
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How about Super cali fragile istic textbe alotrocious?
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Operation Loose Bowels
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Operation Wile E. Coyote.
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Rolling Blunder
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“LOSERS TANTRUM”
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Project Wholecloth
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DING DONG (The witch is dead)
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As many have already posted, we all knew there would not/ could not be an indictment. But, Mueller has to save face. He invested how many hours and how much money in this investigation? Does anyone here think he was ever going to actually straight-out admit there was no evidence of anything? Nope.
But, it is blood boiling to see the typical left/MSM smear campaign. The innuendo, the unspoken accusation that the only reason that there is no indictment is because PDJT is in office, not because there are no crimes found. How many low-information people will think that PDJT has gotten away with something because he is shielded? Next, we’ll see a clamoring to overturn the precedent of not indicting a sitting president. Wouldn’t surprise me to see it debated in the Sunday talk shows.
This is an incredibly frustrating process for me, I cannot imagine how infuriating it must be for VSGPDJT. No matter how loudly Rudy and Trump’s team insist that there are no crimes found to indict, it won’t matter to millions of people who will never take the time to understand what has happened here. Mueller ALWAYS knew he could not indict, he could only hope to impeach. Barring that, the next best thing is to try to leave our president hamstrung – under a perpetual cloud of doubt fueled by half-truths. I knew this was coming, but it still feels really awful.
I loathe Mueller, Comey, McCabe, Brennan, HC, BO, VJ and all the rest of them for what they have done and in some cases continue to do to. They are vile, soulless, without any sense of honor or shame. Truly evil.
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ImHopeful
Robert Mueller has failed in the one most important area that his masters told him he MUST succeed in: indicting President Trump.
Mueller has to do a LOT more than “save face”. He now has to save his LIFE. I commented about that above in a Reply to another Treeper.
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CV,
But they knew they could not indict, not without changing “the rules”, or waiting until he was out of office (maybe through impeachment)? He’s so high profile now, not sure how they could pull off a removal… but with so many folks off’ing themselves or being victims of “random” crimes, who knows? I see you are from VA, do the initials MT mean anything to you?
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ImHopeful
Thank you, but I do not recognize the initials MT.
It is very possible the Mueller team already knew that President Trump couldn’t be indicted as a sitting President. But the Mueller team didn’t care. The object of the game is to somehow remove President Trump from office. Now that indictment is off the table, they have to focus on impeachment/25th Amendment/forcing him to resign from office. At minimum, the Mueller team likely now has “new instructions” to pursue the above avenues while doing everything they can to delay/obstruct the President’s agenda, to sow discontent/distrust among the low information voters and get them to vote Democrat in the 2018 elections, and to continue colluding with their Obama holdover/NeverTrump counterparts in the FBI and DOJ.
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Yes, this is obviously an offensive move by Muller. Muller can’t indict because hedon’t have any evidence but he says it’s because PDJT is a sitting President. Brilliant.
“Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Won’t you first sit down and estimate the cost to see if you have enough money to complete it?” (Lk14:28) Of course you would and so would Muller. He knew from the beginning that he couldn’t indict, he was just hoping to smear, intimidate and obstruct anyone and anything connected to Trump and pushing Trump’s agenda.
I just wish we could sue Muller for wasting our money, our President’s time, the money of all the people (like Flynn) to defend themselves, their reputation along with the immense damage this has done to this country.
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Completely agree.
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Me, too!
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Maybe this will finally end Friday with Judge Ellis ruling? Hope he throws the GAVEL DOWN AND SAYS DISMISSED!
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He should dismiss w/o predjudice and send it back to where it once belonged. In the cold case files for lack of evidence for 5 years.
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I think you mean ‘with’ prejudice’, meaning it cannot be trialed again.
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Hi again Dawn! When I learned what “with prejudice” meant years ago it was such a weird feeling. It meant “we won” but it sounded like “well ok you won but you’re awful and you should have maybe lost”. This was in relation to a child custody issue. Which was such an incredibly painful time in our entire family and friends’ lives. I can only imagine how the Trump family and friends are impacting by this ATROCITY! Abomination!!
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Unfortunately, I think there is only a small chance of that. The issue before him is authority granted Mueller by Rosenstein. He will likely rule that the [2nd] letter from Rosenstein to Mueller is sufficiently vague and broad to allow Mueller to prosecute even those crimes that happened many years ago and unrelated to the election. But, we shall see.
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NYT can try all the like, at the moment this is not the show. The show is when POTUS decides its showtime. When he enters the three rings the NYT clowns will be no where to be seen. Bill and Pete confessing their sins under oath and asking forgiveness will be sunlight that burns and trust POTUS he knows how to direct the circus.
He has a chapter on revenge in Art of the Deal and they attacked his children rest assured the show will be beautiful but it is yet to begin. Buckle up baby!
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ooow–Honestyoz! Revenge–best served up cold…LIKE IT! Buckle up and hang on tight! Wolfies roller coaster ride is gonna be a blast!!!
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Something has been gnawing at me for months.
Why would Donald Trump need a Carter Page or a George Papadopoulos to make contact with Putin?
2. Why would Donald Trump have any pressing need to make contact with Putin before winning the election?
3. If internationally recognized billionaire Donald Trump wanted to reach out to Putin couldn’t he have just picked up the phone or put his slippers on and walked down a few flights of stairs to any of the Russians who have purchased real estate at Trump Tower? Did he have any need to involve people like Carter or George?
The whole opening premise is farfetched kabuki theatre on the face of it.
Donald Trump has made enough contacts all over the world during his time owning all the hotels world leaders stay at that he has no need for these kids to ‘make contact’ for him. It’s a joke, the whole idea of it.
What, did he think Putin wouldn’t pick up the phone after he was elected?
He made no Russian friends in high places during all those decades in New York he couldn’t contact himself? He needed Carter Page and George Papadopoulos?
If I were taking bets, I would say the odds are that Donald Trump fully expected his campaign to be infiltrated, he fully expected attempts to set him up, he knew he was being surveilled all along, and he just let them run amok so when it was time for the curtain to rise the show would be Tony worthy, even with a few Johns mixed in.
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Exactly, the paradigm these clowns are looking through is their own world experience where stuff gets done because a person knows someone who knows a guy who once talked to someone.
Trump told Hillary to show up at his wedding, she did.
What probably kills them is how squeaky clean Trump is, everyone had done something shady where as Trump did it through hard work and making deals.
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Can’t live a public life for 4 decades and be dirty, especially not under scrutiny of NYpress. Additionally, Trump was a FAMILY business.
No way to keep a secret. It’s impossible.
We own a little bitty B&B in a small town with nosy neighbors. At one point, I had 23 employees, working out of my home. I couldn’t go to the bathroom without everyone knowing. I remember trying to nurse a child, no way, cuz no privacy. I had to stay clean — no sordid affairs for me.
Saves so much energy when you don’t have to keep secrets.
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i agree with everything untl the end paragraph…trump was running a bare bones campaign, and needed names, pretty much any names to throw out to the MSM to show he had a foreign policy team–page and papa wouldnt actually be needed to do anything beyond provide half decent looking resumes for ‘show’
in truth trump has been thinking researching and devising his own foreign and domestic policies himself for over 30 years
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But when they started making noises about Russian contacts reaching out, he would have recognized it as silly.
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Yeah but, for something as important as reaching out to Putin, no way Trump would have trusted 30yr old squirrel Papdopoulis or Carter ‘silly grin’ Page. Not appropriate for Trump level dealings.
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This is why they are constantly trying to paint PDJT as an incompetent buffoon. It’s the only way they can make these ludicrous accusations seem somewhat plausible.
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Let me get some buffoon on so I can become a billionaire since it is so easy.
Not one person in this mix is worth of sparring with him or even being in his orbit.
Their advantage was the aggregated wealth of the whole collective taxpaying citizenry of the United States of America, which they thought made them a match for a man who pulled off what Trump did.
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Remember when the media mocked PDJT because he said he didn’t use a smartphone or email? We knew it wasn’t becuase he doesn’t like technology…
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Even if they could, what the hell would they indict the President on… they’ve got NOTHING!
Mueller is a lame duck prosecutor, and all of his indictments so far have been beyond questionable. Most if not all charges, if fought in court, stand a very good chance of being thrown out.
Let Phase Two begin – Investigating the investigators!!
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They really thought they would find something during their fishing expedition. When they raided Cohen us was confirmation they couldn’t find anything. Of course we knew they wouldn’t. It was a Hail Mary.
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January 2017: “Maybe we can get him for colluding with Putin to steal the election. Trump is, like, totally unconstitutional.”
April 2018 : “Maybe we can get him for sleeping with a porn star. That’s like, illegal or something.”
Now: “What do you mean ‘we can’t get him’? That’s like, not fair!”
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i hope the president dont fall for this trap, guys this is a trap for the president! Mueller never taught of indicting the president, he wants him impeached! thats what the deep state was in from the beginning!
Mueller wants to write a report that he will give for congress that will have enough reason for impeachment, and thats what he is working on, and i hope the president knows it, and i hope he will never ever sit down with Mueller!
as a side note, given what we know now about Burr, and Rubio’s comments, and Flake, McCain, Lindsey Graham, and the list goes on and on, i am starting to fear that they conspired with the Senate to have the votes for impeachment, guys we are now living in a banana republic.
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I’m sure Trump has this, he navigated the RNC, DNC, Clinton machine, Obama’s NSA/CIA/FBI and 15 other people seeking the Republican nomination and still got elected President.
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Similar things have been in the back of my mind too. I always figured the fact a president can’t be indicted wasn’t that big a deal because it simply means he must be impeached and removed first.
Now, regarding impeachment, what does it require other than enough votes? What qualifies something as a high crime or misdemeanor? Is it just a matter of whether the house deems with its votes that it is? To be absurd, could the house vote that Trump’s tweets, or heck, his hairstyle, constitutes an impeachable offense? Basically, my essential question: if they vote to impeach for something really isn’t impeachable… what happens?
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The Congressmen are held responsible for their actions by their constituents.
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What happens if the House impeaches? The President then gets a trial in front of the Senate.
Several House members who impeached him serve as prosecutors called managers and the Chief Justice of SCOTUS acts as the judge.
The senate is the jury and it takes a 2/3 vote from the Senate to remove him from office.
No president in the history of our country has ever been found guilty by the Senate after a House impeachment……
President Trump would not either.
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At this point, I’m thinking it might not be a bad idea to encourage this impeachment stuff a bit longer. Cross examination would be a real…
There would have to be cross examination — I’m sure Comey would especially love it; so would the Dems, so might too the NeverTrump side of the GOP — and possibly some foreign elements, let alone the Chicago MackDaddy and Her Ladyship.
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I’m on that page with you, the report will be the next volley.
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All they can do is write a report and a nasty report it will be… full of unsubstantiated hear say…
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This is what I can’t understand. How can he release evidence in a case w/o an indictment or complaint? Is there some law I do not know of?
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It will be classified. Then far reaching (and spun) conclusions about what it means will get “leaked”. And the leftists will hang on that. Same old strategy, new day….. yawn
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Just dropped-in on my mother after she had surgergy. Stormy Daniels on the TeeVee, on NBC, as always. It’s all my mother watches. God bless her, whatever keeps her entertained.
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The only obstruction PDJT committed was to [successfully] obstruct HRC’s attempt to cheat her way into the White House.
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And as far as the Left is concerned, that’s appropriation of their culture.
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Sundance, THANK YOU for always working so hard and using your keen abilities to put this all together for us. I feel quite up-to-date and very knowledgeable about these current events thanks to you. It would be very difficult if not impossible for me to be in this position without your fantastic news reports and analysis.
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The inverse is quit possible, POTUS can indict the spec council.
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All Muller was ever going to able to do is hand his report to Rod. The perception of Obama spying and the expose of the efforts to frame DJT will negate any Muller findings
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You see this stuff worries me. The NYT article is out before the IG’s report. Why is that. Anyone on here thinking like me: release the Kraken immediately and do not give them a chance to shape the narrative? Why is this happening? Or is this intentional? I do not like this one bit. (Summaries of SD notwithstanding).
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Rosenstein’s dicking around happens in this case to help President Trump.
For you see that Rosenstein’s letter appointing Mueller special counsel says that Mueller must obey the Justice Department’s “rules, regulations, procedures, practices and policies.”
The DOJ Office of Legal Counsel interpretations of the law – in this case saying that a sitting president cannot be indicted – are generally binding on the department, and Rosenstein’s wording seals the deal.
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I don’t understand that revelation. mueller certainly can recommend charges to the House, who can then impeach POTUS. Then the Senate that can convict him. That’s the goal anyhow, is it not from Team mueller?
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There’s not enough space to list all of Mueller’s double standards He a pathetic, liar, a fraudster, A disgrace to this country! Also guilty of … TREASON.
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