Chairman Nunes and Gowdy Meet With DOJ, FBI and ODNI to Discuss Non-Compliance With Congressional Requests…

The current issue is the DOJ and FBI refusing to comply with a previous letter sent by Chairman Devin Nunes to Jeff Sessions requesting information pertinent to ongoing review of potential FISA abuse.

Chairman Nunes sent Main Justice a classified letter asking questions. DOJ responded saying they would not comply with providing information (letter below). The Washington Post claimed Nunes was looking for information on an FBI/DOJ ‘source’:

“Top White House officials, with the assent of President Trump, agreed to back the decision to withhold the information. They were persuaded that turning over Justice Department documents could risk lives by potentially exposing the source, a U.S. citizen who has provided intelligence to the CIA and FBI, according to multiple people familiar with the discussion and the person’s role.”  (link)

Additionally, this “source” was later also described as a witness for Robert Mueller’s ongoing investigation.

A subpoena that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) issued to the Justice Department last week made a broad request for all documents about an individual who people close to the matter say is a sensitive, longtime intelligence source for the CIA and FBI.

The Justice Department has refused to provide the documents. Intelligence officials say the material could jeopardize the source, a U.S. citizen who has aided the special counsel investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign. (link)

However, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan said the Nunes inquiry was appropriate. With Ryan’s support, Chairman Nunes threatened to hold Attorney General Jeff Sessions in contempt of congress for non-compliance with valid congressional oversight. DOJ responded saying they’d like a private meeting. Today that meeting took place.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Nunes, and House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy, met with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and his deputy Ed O’Callahan, as well as representatives from the FBI (Christopher Wray) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (Dan Coats).

Sketchy, all of it.  Notice they are not ACTUALLY meeting with Wray or Coats, but career administrative officials, ie. “representatives” of the FBI and ODNI.  Sketchy. Suspicious.  It all sounds more like the Lawfare Group is still driving the “small group” instructions.

WASHINGTON – […]  “We had a productive discussion today with officials from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Department of Justice, and FBI in which we raised questions related to information requested from the Intelligence Community,” Nunes and Gowdy said in a statement. “The officials committed to holding further discussions of these matters, and we look forward to continuing our dialogue next week to satisfy the committee’s request.”

[…]  California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, is also expected to go to the Justice Department on Thursday for the same briefing given to Nunes and Gowdy.  (link)

Sketchy.  All of it.  Given the history of what has taken place within the DOJ and FBI; and knowing the lower-tier of career administrative officials are still in place within the DOJ and FBI; I don’t trust a single constructed word out of either organization.

My standing status/outlook is: they’re hiding stuff.

If they ain’t, let ’em prove it.

The DOJ and FBI are corrupt.  Institutionally corrupt.  All of it.

They are all liars.

Trust is gone.

Co-dependent no more!


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900 Responses to Chairman Nunes and Gowdy Meet With DOJ, FBI and ODNI to Discuss Non-Compliance With Congressional Requests…

  1. CopperTop says:

    via WSJ stassel “When government agencies refer to sources, they mean people who appear to be average citizens but use their profession or contacts to spy for the agency.” This probably means it is not the aging Halper that is referred to in the document that Nunes was not supposed to see. It is most likely a younger person who fits the ‘staffer’ moniker best in a Campaign…

    The staffer is most likely a person we know who is interviewed who is NOT Papadop…from the following sentence taken from a blog the themarketswork

    Halper “offered to help the campaign” but did not mention the Papadopoulos meeting to the second staffer – nor the staffer meeting to Papadopoulos.

    Liked by 3 people

    • JX says:

      Or a lie – just like before. They’ve trotted out this “sources and methods” bit before and it was shown to be a lie. This is yet ANOTHER instance of stonewalling.

      Rosenstein needs to be found in contempt and imprisoned today. Sessions better clean up his act or he can be jailed, too.

      Liked by 4 people

    • ezpz2 says:

      Wait, so DOJ is actually admitting that FBI & CIA were in fact paying someone with our tax dollars to spy on and get dirt on a political campaign??? During an election??

      Is that not the very definition of tampering and undermining and interfering in our “democracy”? The very thing they’re accusing (projecting onto) the Russians!

      They (DNC/Clintonistas) used the FBI and CIA and DOJ as their own personal political pacs. And most of them being Trump haters complied!!

      Our government at work…..against we the people!

      Liked by 15 people

      • WSB says:

        That alone is dynamite. Even the newscasters tonight are getting it.

        Liked by 7 people

      • Heika says:

        They are so emboldened and cock-sure they cannot even see what they are revealing – The Emporer has no clothes indeed!

        Liked by 7 people

      • waterside4 says:

        Ezpz2 thanks to Mr Sundance for his wonderful burrowing at the corruption wormhole, but the point you just made has been so obvious to me its a wonder you are the first I have seen to bring it up.
        The fact your “intelligence” agencies are /were paying our British bent spies to spy on your President.
        Cambridge University has a long proud? history of employing spies under the cover of Professorships.
        Burgess, McLean, Blount are just three who are known about.
        Then recently we had an outfit called Cambridge Analytica (or some such) in the news for mining online profiles to allegedly help The Donald win the US election.
        This self same outfit and system was used to elect your previous imposter, but the bent media thought that was ok. In fact he was applauded for so doing.
        Please keep fighting over there as you are the last hope for civilisation. I do not mean that lightly.

        Liked by 3 people

        • ezpz2 says:

          Waterside4, thank you for the illuminating info, and for your perspective from “across the pond” as they say.

          I’ve always known that corruption and politics go hand in hand, and sadly, we become desensitized to it and thus either accept it or ignore it or both.

          However, the level of – I don’t even know what to call it – the rot that has permeated the many entities within govt has reached critical mass, imo, and it is indeed frightening.

          Your last two sentences are potent. *shudder*


      • Farmkid says:

        Rethinking the application of water boarding:
        Film at 11:00!


    • I kind of agree with this. I often wondered if Pap and Page may have been plants. I wanted someone to ask Page if he is currently or ever has been on the FBI payroll. Possibly even Manafort who was already under investigation. I really do not know though. I think Page makes a whole lot of sense though. He has never acted overly concerned about being caught up in all of this.

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  2. wheatietoo says:

    I’m thinking that this is Why the delay in lighting the Zippo and kicking off the Big Ugly.

    Our President needs more good Judges, Prosecutors…and US Marshals in place, before he opens that can of whoop-ass.

    In case you haven’t seen it, ^^This^^ Statement was released today, May 10th, on the Presidents webpage:

    Liked by 15 people

  3. Zimbalistjunior says:

    Looking at things from the bright side of life:

    The timing of the elimination of the Iran deal (moved up from May 12 deadline) and the Korea hostage release and this nunes meeting could lead us to believe the IG Report will be released this weekend.

    Meaning tomorrow.

    Let’s hope.

    Liked by 9 people

    • jbowen82 says:

      No, I think the White House wants the story this weekend to be Korea. Won’t be released tomorrow.

      Liked by 2 people

      • steph_gray says:

        Korea is so yuuuge an accomplishment that I just found a moonbat I know on FaceBook wistfully hoping that our President walks out of the June 12 meeting so they can claim he had no success.

        They know this is yuuuge!


  4. Carrie says:

    I guess what I don’t understand is that the FBI trying to protect either Carter Page or Stefan Halper is rather ridiculous since both have been outed anyway. If the person mentioned indeed turns out to be Carter Page, the FBI will be disbanded and the FISA Court too because the FBI 1)willfully planted an FBI mole in an election campaign after the primaries with the intent to destroy the candidate and 2) abused the FISA court by pretending this was a suspected Russian spy and not their own FBI asset. Devin Nunes did seem very upset in a recent interview and I seem to remember him saying – it was worse than what we even think. (But I can’t remember who he was talking to). Then it would make sense that it was Carter Page because that would be bombshell. Using Stefan Halper would be a more classic set up as the DNC/Hillary/Obama group clearly weaponized several cells in each department and hoped all of them could assist the investigation and get PT impeached.But it is positively scary how many cells there are tha tneed to be flushed out, with people win London, Rome (FBI office), Australia, FBI, DOJ, SDNY to begin with…

    Liked by 9 people

    • Rhi says:

      Caught that too, “way worse than you know” I think was the quote when Hannity was fishing for a complement on his oft repeated summation of corruption to Nunes.
      Wonder what happened to content exposure of Wiener’s laptop, rumors of assasination discussed in the PS and LP texts that now can’t be found?
      Will anything come out of the IG report, is the zippo dropping, albeit in slow motion?
      Bless you Sundance for all you do!

      Liked by 4 people

    • distracted2 says:

      But let’s not forget that Carter Page also worked on Bill Clinton’s campaign as a “consultant” so there’s a connection to the Democrats that goes back many, many years.

      My money is on Carter Page.


    • James says:

      Summarizing Sundance: the DOJ/FBI are corrupt and they are liars. You’ve got to believe that Devin Nunes knows this also. And regarding the Washington Post article: if that article is correct, then how did they get that information? I’ve read that Peter Strozk still has a top secret clearance. Maybe he leaked it. Maybe it was Comey because he still has connections in the FBI and he certainly knows how to leak stuff. Or for that matter, maybe is was Robert Mueller.


  5. Caius Lowell says:

    WSJ: The FBI Hid A Mole In The Trump Campaign

    On Tuesday, the Washington Post reported that Nunes was denied access to the information on the grounds that it “could risk lives by potentially exposing the source, a U.S. citizen who has provided intelligence to the CIA and FBI.”

    After the White House caved to Rosenstein and Nunes was barred from seeing the documents, it also emerged that this same intelligence had already been shared with Special Counsel Robert Mueller as part of his investigation into alleged Russian involvement in the 2016 US election.

    On Wednesday afternoon, however, news emerged that Nunes and House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) would receive a classified Thursday briefing at the DOJ on the documents. This is, to put it lightly, incredibly significant.

    Why? Because it appears that the FBI may have had a mole embedded in the Trump campaign.

    In a bombshell op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, Kimberly Strassel shares a few key insights about recent developments. Perhaps we should start with the ending and let you take it from there. Needless to say Strassel’s claims, if true, would have wide ranging implications for the CIA, FBI, DOJ and former Obama administration officials.

    Strassel concludes:

    “I believe I know the name of the informant, but my intelligence sources did not provide it to me and refuse to confirm it. It would therefore be irresponsible to publish it.”

    Any idea of who this latest Obama spy could be?

    Liked by 3 people

  6. Newt Love says:

    I just went to the US DoJ home page, and via their “Contact Us” form, selected “Messages to the AG” and sent:
    AG Sessions,
    Thank you for your lifetime of service to America!

    No matter what the deep state has gathered on you, from their fraudulent and illegal Title 1 FISA Warrant on Carter Page, IGNORE THEM!

    When you, US Attorney Huber, and IG Horowitz, save us from the complete corruption of the ICs and the DoJ and the FBI against one of the two main parties in the United States, YOU THREE WILL BE FORGIVEN ANYTHING IN YOUR PASTS, FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR AMERICA’S PRESENT AND FUTURE!!!

    Do not let D-AG Rosenstein, and his big-money handlers blackmail you into selling out The Republic! Our Founding Fathers risked everything to create America.

    Please save The Republic.
    We The People have your back!

    Liked by 15 people

    • Marica says:

      well Newt! I LOVE that!!

      Liked by 2 people

      • Newt Love says:

        > “Marica says:
        > “well Newt! I LOVE that!!”

        Then why are you running me down with “I skip Newt comments” posted elsewhere?
        Give me a break! I don’t care at all what you think about me or my posts.
        I don’t attack anyone’s posts, unless they attack me.
        This is Free Speech, and I post my mind only when it rises to a level of importance, and nobody else has posted the same thing.

        So, glad you liked this post, but honestly, I really don’t care. You and almost everyone have NO MEANING in my life.


  7. NJF says:


    Liked by 6 people

  8. Charlotte says:

    This will blow the Mueller investigation to pieces!
    Spying on a possible future president and then possibly continuing this AFTER he became president.
    What was the justification??

    Liked by 11 people

  9. tonyE says:

    I’m gettting tired of all of this. I want it all to end. I just want to hear the drums as the perps walk to the guillotine.

    Lots of perps.
    Beaucoup de gillotines.

    Que Vive Les Etats Units!
    Que Vive La Republique Americaine!

    Sin cabezas…. no mas Clintons. No mas Obola El Magnifico.

    Arriverderci Pendejos.

    Liked by 3 people

  10. Dutchman says:

    Just to play devils advocate; not that I believe this, but its what THEY will say, in their defence.
    WHAT would you have us do? A year befire the election, we get info coming from several sources, telling us Candidate for Pres. A is a ‘manchurian candidate, actualky compromised by Russia. Yes, SOME of the info originates from “op research” performed on behalf of candidate B. Are we supposed to disregard it, on that basis? We get info from many questionable sources, with murky motives. In counter intel, the question is is the info legitimate?
    So, we did these things, in order to try to discern the veracity of the info.
    Inserted a spy into the campaign, urging establishing link with putin. Sent agents to europe, to try to get evidence confirming or denying.
    Use fisa warrant, to look at EVERYONE in campaign, not just supposed manchurian candidate, but everyone in campaign.
    This was the responsible thing to do, given the accusation.
    Thats what I would say, if I was their lawyer,…just saying. In order to convict of a ‘soft coup’, first you have to specify law they broke. Like ‘colluding with foriegn govt to win election’ isnt against the law, not SURE their is law against soft coup. Its not treasin, if they weren’t working with or for enemy we are at war with.
    “Sedition”, seems to mean ” advocating overthrow of govt.
    We are probably only country in world where that is NOT illegal, its called first amendment.
    “Sedutious acts”?
    Show me law against. If there IS, you have to have enough ADMISSABLE evidence to PROVE, (burden of proof on prosecution) BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, in court of law.
    And, above would be their defence, to create “reasonable doubt”.
    Again not saying I believe it, but its what they will say.
    So, to prosecute, you have to take your time, build your case, make it airtite. Takes time.

    Liked by 1 person

    • zimbalistjunior says:

      yup…’national security’ exemption

      of course, there are many ways to combat this- i hope there are attorneys looking into this now

      Liked by 1 person

      • fabrabbit says:

        Honest, patriotic attorneys! But that is an oxymoron.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Caius Lowell says:

        The justification is that socialist Democrats want to live like pashas on US tax dollars while the rest of the country scrimps, saves, does without, loses their jobs, gets depressed, and eases the pain on Obama-provided opiods — Venezuela isn’t an exception, it’s the natural result of Obama’s envisioned socialist transformation.

        Liked by 1 person

    • lumoc1 says:

      Is it possible that if you were their lawyer, your defense would be based on the “the end justifies the means” principle or to put it another way, we broke the law but we had good and honorable intentions!
      I wonder how successful would be that defense 😉

      Liked by 2 people

    • David A says:

      ” Like ‘colluding with foriegn govt to win election’ isnt against the law, …”

      Yes it is, and is exactly what they are trying to pin on Trump. Many other laws broken as well.

      Liked by 1 person

    • wheatietoo says:

      Mmm…yeah, they may be stupid enough to try using that lame excuse.
      But it won’t fly.

      Here’s why:
      The FBI turned a blind eye to BarrySoetoroBarackHusseinObama…or whatever his real name is.
      A guy with a mysterious, sketchy past.
      A guy with ‘sealed records’ — who does that?!

      Ozero was a guy who sealed his records, which is pretty much an admission that he had something to hide!

      So where was the ‘investigation’ by the FBI into that candidate?

      After their glaring disinterestedness in such an obviously potential Manchurian Candidate in 2008…for, you know, the good of the country…the FBI has no credibility in using that excuse against Donald J. Trump.

      Liked by 7 people

      • Red says:

        I had the same thought about Otrauma. No way they can use that defense with allowing Otrauma to slide…..I am livid, I want them to literally meet their demise like Mussolini.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Sylvia Avery says:

        My first thought, too. If they start trotting that lame ass excuse out I really will blow a gasket. NO vetting for whoever that last person was who was our President. We don’t even know his name for sure.

        Liked by 4 people

      • Flight93Gal says:


        I believe the FBI turned a blind eye to “BarrySoetoroBarackHusseinObama” or whatever his name is because “they” could still run the country/deep state and “44” would never be a threat to THEM.

        So even if “44” playing POTUS, executed several executive orders that ruined the country; the threat was never as significant to THEM as VSGPDJT/45 might be.

        Trillions. At. Stake. Disgusting. Sick. Evil.

        Liked by 1 person

    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      What do you want us to do if we elect in a Manchurian Candidate???????

      It has already happened.

      And we responded. In various ways. Including: we have more firearms than ever before.

      When I broach civil niceties with my neighbors, etc., WE ALL KNOW THIS.

      Right now, we can all go out to Outback Steakhouse for a Bloomin Onion. So, you see no blood in the street today.

      But once we get limited on living our lives, we are ready.

      There’s your answer.

      Liked by 1 person

    • joeknuckles says:

      If they make that argument, ask them why they didn’t investigate Obama or Clinton. There was much more evidence on them and it was real.

      Liked by 1 person

    • rrick says:

      All in favor of military tribunals, say aye.

      Liked by 1 person

    • gerkenstein says:

      They’ve had lots of time.


  11. Charlotte says:

    Liked by 4 people

    • billrla says:

      To be replaced tomorrow by another five most-wanted leaders of ISIS, until the orginal five most-wanted are released “by mistake” by their Iraqi collabor….oh, I mean, captors.

      Liked by 1 person

  12. Chris Four says:

    Ever since Hillary mishandled “classified” information and they did nothing this whole “we can’t tell you” for security is bs. We have heard this same lie after Pulse, San Bernardino, Las Vegas, Bundy Ranch, the anthrax letter case and more. Enough with the lies. End all these secret and top secret FBI programs.

    Liked by 4 people

  13. fabrabbit says:

    We know almost everyone in Trump’s organization and we know they held information closely. And, it was a very small organization. Who could have gotten information of any value unless they were part of Trump’s loyal team. I just don’t get this.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Donzo says:

      I hope that for Mueller’s last meal he orders Chinese. The fortune cookie will be redacted in its entirety. Trump immediately declassifies it. SUCKER!

      Liked by 3 people

    • distracted2 says:

      The spy/mole was inserted into the campaign so that a FISA warrant could be obtained. That is why they are stonewalling. To be forced to admit that they purposely inserted someone into the campaign to continue the spying is the real issue here.

      It proves that there was a conspiracy.

      And you are quite right about the small team, which makes the outsiders even more obvious. Carter Page, Papadopoulos and Manafort. Manafort is out because he was referred by friends of Trump’s. That leaves the other two.


  14. nerveman says:

    You are about to understand the insurance policy

    Liked by 3 people

  15. jack says:

    I wonder if the Mole was trying to get Trump/TrumpTeam to go for some “russian bait” , maybe encourage some ‘meeting” with some woman who has dirt on Clinton?

    Or some person that the DOJ/FBI caught a few years back for doing something illegal , and then turned him into mole/informant. Cohen? Maniford? Someone else?


  16. KBR says:

    I believe that soon the fan will be fastforwarding the excrement. This month is already smelly. It is coming within weeks at most. Old people like me can feel a storm a couple days before it arrives. It is true.

    So gird your loins, put on the whole armour of God, pray, refuse to become discouraged, and STAND.

    Prepare to engage if we are called to do so. Protect your selves, your homes, your communities your nation!

    Are you ready?

    Watch this one again. He told us. What he said is more powerful and more immediate than when he said it.

    Liked by 8 people

    • Marica says:


      Liked by 2 people

    • Marica says:

      ..and tonites latest Q …Be Brave…

      Liked by 3 people

      • KBR says:

        A new Q? Going to see.


        • LM says:

          I understand some but not all.
          Can you interpret?


          • Marica says:

            LM– I cannot interpret– but I follow Praying Medic– who does a fantastic job..and go to qanon twitter and lurk…something is certainly afoot…

            Liked by 2 people

          • KBR says:

            Sometimes, because I like to research.

            Right now he seems to be saying pretty much that there will be a lot of mental meltdown when the facts are known. But at CTH we know a lot already. Not so for entire public.

            Not sure if he is talking about coming violence or anything. But “be brave” might mean that too? Or it might mean a shutdown of computers since its computer folks he is talking too. He reassures though.

            Odd it sounds like Q and I were on same wavelength this pm: when I went to read he had put up the link for the same video as I did.

            Fleporeblog is too. All feel something coming soon.

            Hints for figuring it out:
            Some phrases could have a double meaning, but check 3-5 letter capitalized-words for acronym possibilities. (Enter “your word” and ” acronyms”, an acronym dictionary comes up.)

            A lot of it is computer tech jargon, as Q is really talking to “autists” not normies. Meaning really great computer geeks, not me. 😁 Being older, I am not that computertech-literate, but if an acronym leads to a tech company or intel contractor, well it makes me think I might understand a little bit.

            SKY event, for instance, might be something that will happen in or from the sky,
            or it might be referencing a company involved in computer-tech/intelcontracting, or military jargon associated in some way with acronym SKY, for example.

            WWG1WGA is “where we go one we go all”

            Hope I helped a bit.
            I don’t rely on other interpreters, but I read theirs to compare notes or to see if they got the same thing from the messages. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes I think my research turned up stuff they did not think of, and sometimes their interpretation helps a lightbulb go on in my head.

            Most of Q reinforces or compliments SD info. But I do get more info when I research whatever he mentions. It is usually clues for autists to research. I research too. Some of it turns up sad info,some evil info. Some past things some present things. But it is all connected to what has been happening.

            Q is NOT a prophet, IMO. He is kinda like “Sundance for autists.” He brings out clues and autists go hunting.

            People appreciate most and value most, and remember best, what they have put a bit of effort into.

            Kinda like… a kid who saves up from chores and allowance for a toy will treasure it,
            the toy you bought for him at first whine gets tossed aside.😉

            Also being part of a team effort makes it worthwhile too, I think.

            Liked by 2 people

      • Perot Conservative says:

        Any expected Friday dumps?


    • Lulu says:

      Thank you. That is one of the best Trump videos I have ever seen.
      #Keep America Great!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Tiana says:

      Thank you KBR… such a great motivating video… and a reminder why we all will fight with our VSGPDJT… such passion… such an instiller of hope…

      Liked by 1 person

    • Perot Conservative says:

      Time Magazine said possibly the 18th. A Friday? Or maybe Monday the 21st?

      Big article in Time on the FBI. Free.


  17. Former lurker says:

    Is this the nuclear development in the “Muh Russia” conspiracy, that once revealed, incinerates the reputation of the DOJ and the Attorney General, and renders him tainted and unable to prosecute the conspirators within his own DOJ….unless he’s walled himself off from the bombshell with a recusal?

    That would be a heck of a one-two punch when combined with the IG report on FBI whitewash of the Clinton Email scandal.

    A guy can dream, can’t he?

    Liked by 3 people

    • I wish. I’m with you on the dreaming part. I am starting to come to grips with the fact that AG Sessions is in on all of this. There is no other explanation. Here’s my perspective:
      Within the last 2 days there was a revelation that Avenatti (Stormy lawyer) had Cohen’s financial records. How did that happen? Unknown. But what does the Sec of Treas do (Mnuchin)? Immediately there is an investigation launched by the Treasury IG. Immediately. Compare this to the illegal breach of the Presidential Transition Team documents. They are protected by law; as in, there are clear laws that guarantee the confidentiality of the incoming President. What happened to the Mueller team when it was revealed that they illegally breached this confidentiality? Nothing. If AG Sessions truly is the man of honor and adheres to the laws, he would’ve stepped in and stopped the witch hunt with the justification that the SC doesn’t get to violate the law. Instead, it’s continue along. Then what happens? Cohen is raided and atty/client is violated. Now we see Avenatti as the mouthpiece for leaking and he’s got the Cohen financial records and the Cohen emails!!! And what does the DOJ do about this? Nothing.
      I want to believe that AG Sessions is a good guy. I really really do. But now I don’t. IMO the entire DOJ/FBI is corrupt. All of them. All. Of. Them. What do we do now? What is the option when all of the police are corrupt? Who do you turn to?

      Liked by 4 people

      • Oldschool says:

        Excellent, objective points mom.

        Liked by 3 people

      • dallasdan says:

        “We had a productive discussion today with officials from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Department of Justice, and FBI in which we raised questions related to information requested from the Intelligence Community,” Nunes and Gowdy said…”

        Translation is very likely that they got stonewalled, again, or they got the shock of their lives and need time to process the ramifications of the finding.

        Wray and Sessions are in the spotlight, and it could end very badly for them both.

        Moreover, the ID of the mystery source will certainly be revealed, and the veil further lifted on the most pernicious political conspiracy in our history.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Raven says:

        IMO the entire DOJ/FBI is corrupt. All of them. All. Of. Them. What do we do now? What is the option when all of the police are corrupt? Who do you turn to?

        Well, if the whole mess is rotten to the core . . and it’s increasingly looking like it is, then . .

        Jeff Sessions, having beed recused, sees the sham for what it is.
        He un-recuses himself and proceeds to follow the IG recommendations and initiates the prosecutions.

        No one is going to say Sessions was part of the swamp when that happens.
        Need to wait till you see the whites of their eyes.


      • Rita Camp says:

        If Sessions had any integrity, he’d resign. What a worthless POS.


        • Raven says:

          You’ll need to provide some evidence of that lack of integrity.

          Liked by 1 person

          • KBR says:

            Raven there is evidence put forward by anotherworriedmom above.

            Why would Sessions not stop the illegal stuff going on right before his eyes, right when it happened? HIS JOB.

            He can be recused from the campaign and still say “you cannot break the law while YOU investigate it.” So why didn’t he? HIS JOB.

            Something is wrong there. He was a Senator 20 years: is he more loyal to his dear Senate colleagues than to POTUS?

            Why did he not insist that those who should reasonbly be recused, must also recuse or he would remove them himself? HIS JOB. No matter what case they were investigating.

            I hope he does ride in on a white horse and be the hero. But it looks more and more like he is the horse’s ass right now. Or else just plain scared.

            (Oh, don’t mention crow, please. I really do not like that “joke.”)

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            • Raven says:

              Sessions is recused.
              He’s also recused from the Cohen stuff the same as he’s recused from the Manafort stuff. These further recusals are a result of Rosenstein’s broadening of Mueller’s mandate.

              That’s all there is to know . . as maddening as that is. And it is maddening.
              The thing here is that Sessions has to do it by the book or he’ll risk being accused of obstruction. I don’t want one single conviction to be overturned on that basis.

              So I asked for evidence of his lack of integrity and here’s why.
              People happily go on about Sessions being “compromised” or whatever with absolutely zero evidence. They’re annoyed . . sure, I understand . . but they have no evidence.

              Yet at the same time we’re talking about the larger case where it’s said that Trump is compromised.

              It must be glaringly obvious that the same logic is at play in both cases, but the conclusions are different.
              Why is that?


      • distracted2 says:

        If he’s not complicit, he is compromised. Neither is good.

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    • Oldschool says:

      It’s a nice dream lurker


  18. ARW says:

    If they had an informant during the campaign then they probably had one during the transition and after.

    Liked by 4 people

  19. Julia Adams says:

    At what point does cold anger become hot? The US Government, with the exception of the executive branch, is completely dysfunctional. Every agency, HR, Senate, Department act independent and completely autonomous. The lack of transparency, the gross inefficiencies, the excessive spending and the decentralization into solitary bureaucracies must end.

    Part One: Drain the Swamp
    Part Two: RIF (reduction in force or layoffs)

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  20. TomA says:

    Rosenstein, Mueller and his merry band, and various senior members of DOJ/FBI/Dept. of State have been under covert surveillance and investigation for nearly a year now. They have been given all the rope that they desire with which to hang themselves. Even at this late hour, they remain oblivious to how they have been hoist with their own petard. As bad as these crimes are, the monumental stupidity of it is staggering.

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  21. Dutchman says:

    Im thinking this next IG report is gonna be much bigger, in shear volume, than the last; 1000 pages or more, plus footnotes. Gonna take even sundance a little while to digest and analyse.
    In anticipation, one of the things Im most interested in is how the phone call from lynch to NYPD, over weiner laptop material and eric garner investigation is handled. Did they interview NYPD Officials? Do they have recording? Did she say ” hand over material to dc fbi, and shut up about it, or garner investigation, OR did she say hand over material, and totally different topic, we’re CONSIDERING opening investigation on garner. One is clear obstruction, one perhaps not.
    And, of coarse does material on laptop come out????

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  22. Joe says:

    Many people have died in the defense of this country.

    Whomever is at risk, well sorry, but that’s the breaks.

    The American people MUST know the truth and it is bigger than one life.

    Liked by 4 people

  23. Guffman says:

    President Trump, please reclassify the report shown to Devin Nunes and Trey Gowdy today. It’s time to expose the root of this witchunt!

    Liked by 1 person

  24. NJF says:

    I agree with everyone surmising that the “but national security” defense will be employed when this comes out.

    Case in point, a twitter reply to one of the articles.


  25. Stu says:

    Here’s my guess for how they’re going to try to resolve this:

    Manafort was a spy in the Trump campaign relaying info via Oleg Deripaska to Russia, as Russian opposition politician Navalny has alleged. Manafort worked with Deripaska for years before a business dispute began about 7-8 years ago. Deripaska sued Manafort for millions eariler this year. Maybe Manafort had agreed to pass some info to forgive a debt, and when Manafort looked like he was going down Deripaska decided to get his money back. They’ll say Trump knew nothing about it (he didn’t), FBI people will face discipline for getting overzealous, but they’ll be able to point to a legitimate predicate for investigating the campaign, although, in the heat of the campaign and given the stakes, some FBI and intelligence investigators went too far and have been punished. It will allow the media, the Democrats, and the FBI/DoJ to save face, because they’ll say, “Sure, we got carried away, but his campaign coordinator was a Russian spy, so what were we supposed to think?”

    It won’t satisfy this crowd, which has some grasp of the depth of corruption, and it won’t satisfy the #Impeach45 crowd, which will say Trump’s involvement is being covered up, but it will settle down the normies and give both sides and our institutions an opportunity to call a truce without anyone important having to fall.

    The other options are that the conspiracy outlined by TCH and others is arrested, or they win amd Trump is impeached, both of which lead to massive civil unrest, the latter probably to civil war. I think Sessions, Rosenstein, Wray, etc are trying to deescalate at all costs. They are trying to figure where the line is between how many people we are willing to let walk, and how many people the left will let go down, without undue civil unrest erupting on either side. It’s not my bag, I’m a “let justice be done though the heavens fall” type, but bureaucrats don’t roll like that.

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    • dallasdan says:

      Exec. summary: Business as usual.


    • Sherman McCoy says:

      there is a brilliant truthfulness to what you write. and i’ll vomit if it comes to pass


    • Raven says:

      They are trying to figure where the line is between how many people we are willing to let walk, and how many people the left will let go down . .

      Lots of truth in that, I reckon.
      There’s too much faith put in the 2.5K sealed indictments IMHO. There won’t be 2.5K people going down simply because the evidence will be too thin.

      That said, the big players should be easier to nail, methinks.

      There’s another interesting point about those 2.5K sealed indictments.
      Has anyone noticed that the leftists aren’t saying they belong to the Mueller team? 😉


    • distracted2 says:

      Tom Barrack, a longtime friend of Trump’s, recommended Manafort. Mueller interviewed Barrack recently. Unless Manafort was forced into spying on Trump after he accepted the position, it’s not likely he is the spy/mole.

      I still believe it’s someone who inserted himself into the campaign.

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    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      Could be. However the question will remain: how could you at FBO and DOJ tank the HRC investigation? That was obvious corruption: you violated many laws in clearing her. And the clearing of HRC and the attempts to destroy Trump campaign and presidency were all part of a single conspiracy.

      Now, here’s where it gets interesting: to that accusation the black hats will point to a strzok Page text where one of them says , after trump wins nomination, that now we have to clear HRC. They will interpret that as meaning, that now that Republicans have nominated this national security risk, trump, now we have no choice but to clear HRC so she can beat him and protect this country.


  26. Dutchman says:

    I take considerable comfort that VSGDJT and everyone on his team seems very relaxed, and non defensive.
    Meanwhile, Comey outed lynch, brennan, clapped, etc. Seem very DEFENSIVE. Seems like they are pointing fingers at each other, or trying to establish predicates for defence. Contrary to Comeys theory, THIS is the behavior of people who are guilty, and know it. Even Sessions hasn’t responded to criticisms, whereas look at Rosies you cant intimidate DOJ b.s.
    As yet, doesnt look at all to me like some grand bargain has been made. Looks to me like we are winning, and so I remain optimistic, pending I.G. report.

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  27. Dutchman says:

    Also, everything I get from DJT is that HE has confidence in the American people. He’s bet his candidacy, his career and life, ultimately on trusting our judgement. I DON’T believe he would accept the people cant handle the truth argument. He would agree with you, stu: it HAS to,all come out, for the good of republic, and so this doesnt happen again.

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  28. Dutchman says:

    Also, everything I get from DJT is that HE has confidence in the American people. He’s bet his candidacy, his career and life, ultimately on trusting our judgement. I DON’T believe he would accept the people cant handle the truth argument. He would agree with you, stu: it HAS to,all come out, for the good of republic, and so this doesnt happen again. THATS MY TAKE ON THE MAN.

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    • KBR says:

      My take is that if we cannot cleanse the horrid wound of rot and disinfect it, and care for it, it will not heal and gangrene will set in.

      But that might be hard and long and bloody and dangerous. While we are in surgery the wolves might attack from otherlands

      Most people would rather keep that patient (USA Lady Liberty) alive a little while longer and amputate some essential part, leaving her to limp along in a nasty world so she can fall over dead AFTER they do.

      We got soft.


  29. Dutchman says:

    Sorry, dam phone!


  30. Theo West says:

    What if Jeff Sessions was the campaign spy??????

    Liked by 1 person

  31. The leak to WaPo is clearly damage control, it makes it sound like the source is doing great work when we are yet to see a scintilla of evidence justifying surveilling the Trump campaign.


    I wonder how Nunes found this out? Fascinating development.

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  32. Dutchman says:

    Article saying Avenetti now releasing emails from Cohen.
    Thats another measure: no definitive, and often WRONG spinning leaks from IG or Huber. Constant from other side.
    If you’ve got the goods, no need.


  33. Dutchman says:

    So, Avenneti is leaking material from Cohen raid. Desperation from one side, calm certitude from other.


  34. Yancey Ward says:

    If there was a spy, Carter Page makes the most sense- here is why:

    His implantation didn’t truly take effect- he ended up being basically a nobody in the campaign- in other words, months after joining, he had zero access to anyone in the circle containing Trump, his family, and the campaign’s upper management. When it was realized that Page wasn’t going to get them anywhere on his own testimony, it was decided to use a different tactic- use the Steele Dossier’s mention of Page to obtain a FISA warrant that could be used to spy on the contacts Page did have and then those contacts contacts further up the chain. It was the Hail Mary, and they did this because they knew that Page, being in on this from the start, would never make an issue of a warrant should it ever be revealed- something that couldn’t be guaranteed if they had obtained a FISA warrant on anyone else “in” the Trump Campaign. By using their own agent, Page, the small group could then claim that everyone else was just incidental, and Page himself is the shield.

    Of course, this only works if it is never revealed that Carter Page was a plant by the Obama DoJ.

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    • Blaze says:

      His whole demeanor is bizarre. Just like the time my Irish Setter ate a pound of Amish butter that was left unattended on the counter. Page has the same “I didn’t do it” look and demeanor as my dog. I’m telling you there is something just odd about the guy, really odd.

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      • Raven says:

        I watched Carter Page being interviewed a few months ago (can’t remember by whom) and she slipped in what I thought was a fairly innocuous question.

        It went something like . . “at the time you were in the Seychelles . . “
        Page came back instantly with “I’ve never confirmed or denied I was in the Seychelles”

        Page is often portrayed as a goonish nobody, but he was onto that one, quick as a flash.


        • KBR says:

          Agree Raven.

          Is it the act of a well trained agent…is playing dumb part of his cover? Just b/c someone SAID he was an “asset” does not mean he is not actually an agent.

          That line “neither confirmed nor denied” did not sound like a regular guy, a little too much legaleze for a “dumb” guy. And the dumb-guy act does not match his education nor “business owner” (cover) either.

          A regular guy IMO would say “I didn’t say yes or no to that” or “I didn’t say I did or I didn’t”


          • Raven says:

            Yep . . and look at all this from Page’s point of view too.

            Carter Page lives in a murky world. He’s providing ‘insight’, ‘advice’ or ‘lobbying efforts’ all at the same time to different people/organisations. None of it is straight up contract work as we generally know it.

            One minute he’s an FBI asset and the next, he’s the subject of a FISA warrant by that very same FBI.
            He’s done nothing wrong and lives every day as if someone is tapping his phone anyway . . no biggie.

            He knows the FBI. The FBI know him . . so what.
            He might get another job from the FBI next week. There won’t be any hard feelings about this because the FBI are living in the same murky world.


  35. REally Preposterous says:

    So let me see if I’ve got this straight…
    1 – The Obama Admin has used domestic spying to keep tabs on enemies and interfere with them (IRS/Lerner)

    2 – Fusion GPS was positioned – along with some Ivy League academics with reliable politics – inside the intel apparatus with access to info they should not have had access to, possibly as early as when Cllinton was still the SecState. Only when Mike Rogers sniffed it, had an audit performed and shut it down did the blatant intel access get thinned out… it never stopped because of the Lawfare/Inner circle connection
    3 – Then the unmasking data and the domestic spying info was used to initiate a movement from Brennan to start an investigation whereupon ‘foreign sources’ were used to create the pretext and /or the Carter Page investigation was re-leveraged.

    This is where current conspiracy theorists resurrect Carter Page as the FBI mole. Theory only viable if he was directed to ‘contact’ or touch everyone he could so the Title 1 reach was applied to the max number of people… otherwise he was not going to collect the info the old fashioned way by people talking to him. Maybe, but given the blatant disregard evidenced by the faked FISA warrant application and the un-maskathon, why were they worried about a thin pretext like that unless Rogers was keeping tabs on the actual Title 1 requests? Maybe but not very strong.

    4 – Now Bruce Ohr is the channel from the Title 1 searches to his wife at Fusion GPS. The info is created by an outside party so the inner circle can keep their hands clean…ish. The dossier is created to bolster the effort and to get something to leak to the outside world because they haven’t found anything actionable. Brennan and Clapper are in this up to their necks but they use the domestic agencies to do the dirty work and insulate them from the blow-back (no worries though… Hill’s going to win, right?)

    5 – The insurance policy is put in place and bolstered and everyone is feeling pretty slick by now… hubris is not only euphoric it is contagious. They are also no doubt getting a lot of positive feedback from like-minded types. More people knew about this than are under the microscope now.

    7. The apocalypse comes in early November and they are NOT taken up in the Clinton rapture… they are left behind. Now they decide to get even because they are invulnerable and have all the bases covered. Now the little pieces start coming apart and that nosy guy Nunes gets a tip from someone that didn’t like any of this and gave him enough hard data to convince him there was something rotten in Denmark ( directing him at the unmasking also probably put him off the scent of who it was that did the tipping) and told him enough other stuff that was made plausible by the hard info to get him going.

    What got missed?

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    • KBR says:

      European connections: foreign agents, Brits for sure, five eyes, Soros et al, globalists, pedorings drug & human trafficking (including babies) to pay for all this, hollyweird connections, lewd accusations, porn, DNC Hilldog BO and his admin, clinton fndation, possible congresspeople involved, And satanism of the most heinous kind possibly including cannabalism of one form or another,

      and cosmetic enhancements for evil old “elite” people (and even some not so old people looking to erase a few new wrinkles or enhance virility) to live longer and look younger via cells/ hormones taken from babies and children who were kidnapped and slaughtered for the purpose.

      All this has to do with the plot, not only to get rid of PJDT, but all deplorables as well, taking away our votes. And getting rid of the USA.

      In short: good vs evil.


      • KBR says:

        Dang! I missed globalist corporations, TomDonohue, MAY MERKEL MACRON and the Brit Royals and Brussels gov. And RINO uniparty branch and DEMon uniparty branch, with graft and corruption and associated lobbyists. Think tanks and thought leaders.

        Throw in Muslim Brotherhood and Cair, and illegal aliens and jihadis and sanctuary city goons/governors/mayors. And the IRS and federal reserve and bigbankers. Oh antifa too and BLM. And rogue CIA operatives. Rothschilds. And dimwitted or indoctrinated Dem sheep.

        And coming very soon, Artificial Intelligence to rule over whatever remnant of humankind the new royalty feels they need for their breeding herds for human parts, or for slaves. (Most slaves will be robotic but some traditionalist perverts might want mixed harems.)

        Too tinfoil for ya?

        What, you think the devil isn’t capable of all that when men deny God?


  36. Sam Ensign says:

    Sketchy. All of it. Given the history of what has taken place within the DOJ and FBI; and knowing the lower-tier of career administrative officials are still in place within the DOJ and FBI; I don’t trust a single constructed word out of either organization.

    My standing status/outlook is: they’re hiding stuff.
    Saw various reports of this earlier today and felt sirens going off inside.

    I don’t post much, just read, because many of you are much more informed.

    What this feels like is analogous to teeing off in golf. When you say “I got all of it.” Of “I didn’t get all of it.” Parsed words from Nunes and Gowdy make me nervous, like we didn’t hit the ball as best we could. Maybe, in politics, capturing most of the corruption and evil is good enough. Not for me to say. Regardless, it doesn’t feel good enough until all of it is unearthed and discarded.

    It doesn’t sit right with me to allow some corruption to exist for the good of those empowered to represent us.

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      It doesn’t sit right with you because you, like most of us are, good people who have ethics and care about the rule of law. This is why “we” will eventually win 😉


  37. boot says:

    A lot of comments about Five Eyes. However I’d point out that, back in April, Nunes told Maria Bartiromo that he reviewed the original “electronic communication” (EC) which was used to justify the counter-intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign in the summer of 2016.

    Nunes said that “We now know that there was no official intelligence that was used to start this investigation.” Also “… Five Eyes continues to work well. And we know it’s working well because there was no intelligence that passed through the Five Eyes channels to our government. And that’s why we had to see that original communication

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  38. Blade says:

    Halper was in contact with Papadopoulos and Page, both overseas. And Halper was in contact with U.K and AU spy agencies. (5 eyes)

    Sundance, I think that this “spy” and all others are merely trees in the forest. I also think Kim Strassel and Sara Carter are being led around by zealots inside the bureau and DoJ at their leisure once again. What we are going to find out is that there were *many* parallel avenues being pursued just in case they hit dry wells. As Michael Caputo pointed out, they were looking at and have information about everyone and these all allow official investigative inroads into the campaign. Everyone on the outside appears to be looking for that one thread to pull that will make the whole thing clear, as if there is just one thing that could have been avoided and then we have no special counsel and all rainbows and unicorns. That kind of thinking drove the 9/11 aftermath, and that is partially why we are here today..

    It looks to me that the bureau has a SOP now of “planting” and cultivating “sources” in all their investigative targets and by knowing the background of that source who has some nebulous connection to ‘overseas’ or ‘Russia’ or ‘national security’ it allows them to skip the hard gumshoe legwork and jump straight into the FISA and related shortcuts. This is standard operating procedure because it is easier. It also puts a relative block on public oversight on the investigation which of course aids the investigators. Why do anything the hard way when there is this perfect method of citing national security and delivering redaction-heavy documents to the overseers.

    This is yet another unintended consequence of the we must do something 9/11 aftermath, specifically the suspiciously near universal calls to tear down the Gorelick Wall. This “wall” was way overblown IMHO, and wasn’t real unless you go all the way back to post-Hoover post-Watergate post-Langley-assassination Church Committee reforms that built a firewall between national security international spying versus plain old domestic criminal investigations. That wall was a primary focus of the 9/11 report and all concurrent discussion at the time ( remember Derp-TV with Hannity’s constant Jaimie Gorelcik Wall scapegoating? ). Well that wall and other safeguards got torn down and now the bureau is unleashed to act like real trained spooks under too many circumstances, and targeting U.S. citizens as a matter of course. That’s right, Muslim Jihadists attack us, and then the USA government sees an opening to … attack us also. Thank Hannity and all the other Derpaholics for the deep state assist.

    What I think happened in more or less chronological order is that Jeb went for oppo research using his family connections. When he got bounced the Bushies handed it off to Team Cankles. Since Trump had already started talking up Russia and a relative detente, this really scared the bejeezus out of the deep state ( Russia IMHO has stuff on all our corrupt politicos and institutions, not to mention the shenanigans we are up to in Ukraine and Syria ) and they willingly got onboard Team Hillary to thwart the threat to their fiefdom. Then, 7th floor bureaucrats decided to press hard for international angles, possibly Comey or McCabe talked to the White House and since Obama had dutifully campaigned against Brexit, he or someone like Brennan asked the limeys to help knock out Trump. Then Steele, Paddapoop, Page, the dossier, etc, all become active threads which trickle down to the mid-level bureau Strzoks and Pages who after Trump wins, get the story out to the Enemedia and thereby into the bloodstream.

    The key point here, as you have pointed out, is that there were multiple active investigations all spawning further hops and more investigations ( e.g., Page, Paddapoop, Manafort, Don, Jr, Trump, etc ), and newly added targets of opportunity during the transition ( e.g., Flynn, Sessions, and just about everyone else ) . Once Trump was elected, it was a fait accompli that Trump would face some kind of hellish decision since the DoJ and FBI were already knee deep in investigations of him and his team. Can an incoming President, an outsider who is hated by the uniparty and deep state simply end all the investigations? Not likely without risking the Watergate 2.0 strategy and its related impeachment traps. They had really amped up the Russia Russia Russia hoax in the press by inauguration day. With a friendly Congress he might have been able to clean house and terminate all the garbage but since he is very well informed I must assume he choose to let it burn out like the dumpster fire it is. And another key point here is that IMHO Sessions recognized the danger with respect to discussing the “recusal” ( i.e., there is no way to “discuss” this subject with Trump without opening him up to obstruction charges and all the proof we need is in Comey’s blatant attempt to paint obstruction charges with respect to Flynn “go easy on him” and now with the purported Mueller 49 questions.) and handed it off to the still enigmatic Rosenstein, who moved it all off to the special counsel. There was no choice of not recusing once Trump decided to not clean house immediately and take the hit upfront.

    Make no mistake, this is nearing the endgame now finally ( and thankfully, and had Sessions not recused so early then the special counsel or independent prosecutor would just now be getting appointed after a year of Enemedia Watergate propaganda ). Trump has dodged all the impeachment traps ( unless he did something stupid we don’t know about, but I doubt it ) and the deep state has all but burned out their fires, most of the actors exposed, and we are going to hear about civil servants at FBI and DoJ seditiously using their positions to harm a Presidential candidate, President-Elect and President. The hard decision Trump has to make involves how much to expose to sunlight, specifically the British and other involvement, Five Eyes, our own spooks who might be involved, and of course high level previous administration officials like Yates, Lynch, Brennan, Clapper and maybe Dumbo himself. Trump can declassify some key intel here and accomplish this, but the enemy will then play the Valerie Plame card that worked so well against the cowardly Bush43. I don’t think Trump really cares about blowback so I would hope he follows through and lets it all hang out. However, we should be prepared for some loose ends left untied because I guarantee there are high level meetings going on trying to convince him that it is his duty to not rock the boat and expose too-big-to-fail figures to sunlight.

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      Thank’s for filling my “belly” this AM – LOTS of food for thought! Many angles and interesting takes on this situation. Great post!

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    • boot says:

      A good analysis. I agree that PDJT probably doesn’t care about blowback but I suggest that a major part of those high level meetings will focus on how PDJT’s actions on these issues may impact upon the mid-term elections; 2020 presidential election and his legacy.

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      • Blade says:

        Personally I think ‘letting it all hang out’ will help Trump in all elections going forward. It will spark further righteous indignation and fires under our butts.

        The enemy however will argue the opposite, that it might somehow hurt him to expose the deep state cabal and previous administration. With Trump’s substantially high IQ that argument should go in one ear and right out the other.

        The only sound argument will be the old too-big-to-fail canard, sound because it has been used over and over. This argument is what was used in fall 2008 when McCain suspended his campaign and returned to Washington to vote for 700 billion in bailouts in a quick session. There must be an entire platoon of deep state liars with dire arguments and spreadsheets and powerpoint graphs ready to go at the drop of a hat to snow over any person that attempts to buck the system from within ( failing that they no doubt pull out raw FBI files and the langley oppo research folder ) . It’s the only explanation for what happens down there in the District of Criminals.

        If there ever was a person with a spine of steel to buck the system it is Trump. Fingers crossed that we get the conclusion we need.


        • Shadrach says:

          Thank you for your comment and follow-up. Very interesting to read. I agree with you that it’s getting close to end-game. I remember when this first started, SD would post once a day or so, and now it’s multiple times a day, there’s so much to cover. That’s my indicator 🙂

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  39. Li'l D in the Big D says:

    “I had productive meetings in Pyongyang with Chairman Kim Jong-un and made progress.” I’m delighted to bring home three Americans. Mike Pompeo

    “We had a productive discussion today with officials from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Department of Justice, and FBI in which we raised questions related to information requested from the Intelligence Community,” Nunes and Gowdy said in a statement. “The officials committed to holding further discussions of these matters, and we look forward to continuing our dialogue next week to satisfy the committee’s request.”

    One productive and the other, not so much.


  40. The Mole is ” Sessions”


    • DanO64 says:

      nope. The only consistent is I don’t know Jack Shit. I do know I fully trust our VSG President Trump. This “caper” is so complex even some of the major players don’t understand it or even be able to explain it so the average Joe like me would understand. Well over a year and a half of following this and the twists and turn-backs are still a surprise. A new name daily almost. I’m Spartacus.


  41. Kris says:

    Use LOGIC.
    Why are they slow walking unredacted data?
    Why are they slow walking doc disclosures?
    Why is the WH backing up DOJ?
    What if the same data is being used by other investigators?
    What does it mean if a grand jury is impaneled?
    Why are confusing questions asked as to outcome re: Mueller?
    What would be the purpose of creating confusion?
    What was Sessions’ Senate confirmation vote?
    What was RR’s Senate confirmation vote?
    If RR is dirty, Mueller must also be dirty.
    If Mueller is dirty, RR must also be dirty.
    Common denominator.
    Why did Sessions pick RR?
    Everyone has an opinion.
    Few have the facts.
    Few know the plan.
    Midterms [save & push]?
    Swing voters to retake House/Senate?
    Impeachment proceedings (open source) initiated?
    Power at all costs?
    Blue wave?
    Use LOGIC.
    Why must the DOJ & FBI be cleaned FIRST?
    What is the DOJ responsible for?
    What is the FBI responsible for?
    Why did HRC get a free pass?
    Use LOGIC.
    Define single shooter.
    Who is HUBER?
    Define IG.
    When does SESSIONS step back in?
    Already is?
    Why did SESSIONS secretly engage HUBER?
    Why did SESSIONS reveal HUBER?
    Timing is everything.
    Department of Justice does not discuss ongoing investigations or confirm specific matters,
    What about the active investigation into leaks?
    “Horowitz oversees a nationwide workforce of more than 450 special agents, auditors, inspectors, attorneys, and support staff whose mission is to detect and deter waste, fraud, abuse, and misconduct in DOJ programs and personnel, and to promote economy and efficiency in Department operations.”
    Why did MP step into the C_A prior to Sec of State?
    They are deeply connected.
    Think Offshore.
    MIL INTEL providing support during this time?
    Why are select EO’s aggressively being written and put into law?
    State/C_A next?
    Think logically.
    No outside comms.


  42. Konamon says:

    Was Halper inside the campaign?


  43. jakeandcrew says:

    Love Joe diGenova! This interview (from Tucker last night) will put a smile on your face. Mueller in trouble with a judge again. Oh boy!


  44. Zadig says:

    Chris Christie was part of campaign. Removed from transition. No appointment from administration. Had his own serious legal troubles in nj through the campaign that ultimately fell on the shoulders of subordinates. There are clinton like aspects to the case. Ie. Christie cant find the cellphone that aides say would have damning info. As christie is a big fish and trump old pal, it would be explosive and worthy of hiding,wh, doj if Christie were obamas man inside trump campaign. Remember big hug pictures between obama and christie after natural disaster hit new jersey.


  45. f.fernandez says:

    Any chance they’re withholding this because Halper (if he’s Brennan’s guy) may be charged?


  46. jakeandcrew says:

    Did Trump hire Rosenstein and Sessions recuse himself in order to give Rosenstein the whole ball of rope with which to hang himself, and by extension, Mueller and many other bad guys?

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  47. T.L.T. says:

    “The DOJ and FBI are corrupt. Institutionally corrupt. All of it.

    They are all liars.”


  48. ATheoK says:

    “Notice they are not ACTUALLY meeting with Wray or Coats, but career administrative officials, ie{sic}. “representatives” of the FBI and ODNI.”

    Whenever bosses fear discussions, persons, or organizations, they delegate lower level employees to “represent” them.

    Without ‘official’ written and signed assignment of authorization to fully represent the organization or the superior, the ‘superior’ official is not under any onus to obey negotiated settlements.
    A) Charge anyone attending the meeting that accepts conditions, timelines or agrees to demands, that does not have ‘official authority delegation’, with misrepresentation.
    B) Remove them from duty, pending investigation. Which eliminates them from getting used as cannon fodder again.
    C) Offer them consideration in exchange for evidence and/or testimony.

    Put the fear of prosecution into all FBI/DOJ/CIA into workerbees, gophers, embedded deep state employees who are the actual folks performing the deeds of these mutinous seditious intelligence community officials!
    Drain these workers off and correct their patriotic work ethics, or terminate their employment and pensions!

    Nunes and Ryan need to be explicit regarding who must attend the meeting.
    When these bosses dodge explicit orders, then they have willfully committed insubordination and/or mutiny.
    Actions, adding to the list of reasons these characters should be unemployed and without pensions.

    These types of bosses are also known for stuffing meetings and committees with numbers of subordinate employees. They use these employees as obstacles, diversions and time wasters to any inconvenient topics.


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