Negotiation Phase – Rudy Giuliani Joins Trump Legal Team…

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani previously served as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.  Mr. Giuliani told the Washington Post:

“I’m doing it because I hope we can negotiate an end to this for the good of the country and because I have high regard for the president and for Bob Mueller,” Giuliani said in an interview.

Guiliani joining team to negotiate exit of Special Counsel Robert Mueller is confirmation of earlier analysis on Mueller “referee” intent. The investigative and indictment balance was always between Hillary Clinton allies and President Donald Trump.

Robert Mueller was recruited by Clinton and Washington DC allies and those within the small group; and was/is generally facilitating the investigation of Trump as leverage.

If you look at Robert Mueller from the position of trying to protect his cherished Deep State institutions from horrible Trump swamp draining…. things begin to take a more accurate context. The only way for Mueller to protect his Swamp Allies and Institutions, was to generate leverage against Trump.

Having established only political leverage, nothing factually unlawful or illegal, the Mueller investigation begins to dry up. Leverage diminishes.

Without direct leverage against President Trump, Team Mueller moved to position leverage against those Trump cares about… that’s a secondary approach; but the secondary leverage approach is fraught with public noting Mueller is on a “witch hunt”… the investigation into outlying Trump allies becomes transparent in motive. Support for Mueller erodes amid independent-minded people.

Enter Rudy Giuliani, a political and legal Subject Matter Expert – with direct knowledge of evidence held by NYPD and NY FBI field office of gross criminal conduct by Hillary Clinton. (Weiner Laptop etc) Buried by SDNY Clinton Allies.

With Special Counsel Mueller having exhausted most of his investigative leverage, Giuliani enters to negotiate Mueller’s exit and discuss his team’s path of retreat and image face-saving.

The discussion from Mueller’s perspective will not center around Trump, but rather center around how much risk to Hillary Clinton, and by extension political allies within FBI and DOJ – including Obama White House, Mueller will permit.

Mueller will be looking to protect the interests of Obama, Clinton, Lynch, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc. and negotiating degrees of risk to the institutions each represents. This is the political horsetrading phase. The leverage cards held by each participant are laid on the table for discussion. Low leverage officials will be sacrificed by Mueller to protect those holding more leverage.

Giuliani is a well qualified person to present the Trump administration position within these negotiations. They are essentially negotiating who faces criminal prosecution and who doesn’t.

Ultimately protecting Obama and Clinton will be of higher importance to Mueller. If Mueller doesn’t protect Clinton, he knows her team will destroy everyone if she goes down. That scorched earth approach is a historic part of Team Clinton’s leverage. The stronger the evidence is against Clinton the more people Mueller will have to give up to protect her. The stronger the evidence against the corrupt institutions, the bigger the officials Mueller will have to sacrifice to save them.

Negotiating all this with Robert Mueller will likely be Rudy Giuliani’s primary job.

Likely the general public will never know the ultimate deal decisions. We will only be able to gauge the scale of corruption by the officials Mueller agrees to sacrifice.

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782 Responses to Negotiation Phase – Rudy Giuliani Joins Trump Legal Team…

  1. Bubba says:

    Love it when the smartest blogger on the planet (Sundance), in essence, agrees with me. It’s been my theory since May-June ’17 that Mueller was installed as leverage against Trump to ensure Mutually Assured Destruction if Trump went hard after the Hillary/Obama cabal. He was & has been the Deep State’s negotiator (Consigliere). I predicted that some lower level people would need to go down for public consumption but that no big dogs would go down. MAGA would be implemented in the meantime.

    Now, because of the viciousness of Mueller, Comey, McCabe, Hillary, Obama, etc., I think Trump might be preparing for military tribunals to nail these SOB’s. MAGA is prevailing.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      I damn well pray you are correct.

      Liked by 1 person

    • David Munday says:

      This whole chapter in the American experience makes one’s blood boil!

      Liked by 5 people

    • lftpm says:

      A nice scenario:

      PJDT exiles Comey, Obama, HRC, WJC, Chelsea, Holder, Rice to South Georgia Island, like they did to Napoleon on St. Helena, but further south. Give them 100 sheep to herd.

      Hillary convenes a meeting and says, “Listen to me, I gotta plan…”

      BJC says, “Shut up bitch!” Chelsea says, “Shut up bitch!” Everybody votes to throw her out of the community, giving her five sheep to survive the winter. Even her sheep abandon her, and…

      CBS films and broadcasts it: ” Survivor, Extreme Version’.

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    • jb says:

      Not fussing witchoo, but I saw all of this before Donald was sworn in.

      Sundance did, too


    • Lee Moore says:

      With the best will in the world, this is ridiculous. Giuliani agrees, on behalf of Trump, that the DOJ will not pursue various Democratic operatives, in exchange for Mueller dropping his inquiries into, and charges against various Trump operatives ? Trump would be engaged in a corrupt deal to pervert the course of justice to benefit himself – and all his chief political enemies (and so, eight seconds later, the media) would know all the details ! This would be precisely the charge that the impeachonuts have been trying to pin on Trump forever, and precisely the charge that Trump (rightly) levies against the Obama DOJ and FBI. Trading Obama/Clinton necks for Trumpist necks would be deranged. If Giuiani even raised the possibility over the table with Mueller, Mueller would indict Giuliani on the spot.

      Whatever negotiating Giuliani is being hired to do, it’s nothing to do with letting Clinton cronies off the hook. However naive Trump may be about the nature of the US criminal justice system (though he may be wising up), Giuliani is not naive. Nor, for that matter is he corrupt so far as I know. He wouldn’t put his own head in Mueller’s noose.


      • cozette says:

        Trump naive about the legal system? LOL. The team he’s working with have been developing a meticulous plan to drain the EVIL Global Swamp for years. Watching it unfold has been a real treat. BTW I’m going with Q on how this drama unfolds. Mueller is NOT who most people think he is. Thats why he was picked. Semper fi. Additionally, Rudy will NOT be negotiating to let Hillary and Obama off the hook. As Q has said repeatedly. NO DEALS (for those who chose to keep fighting ie #theresistance. The Bush cabal should be worried too.

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      • Greg B says:

        Lee, I share your reaction. How could Mueller/Giuliani bind Sessions/Huber? Trump WOULD then be improperly interfering with the DOJ. Unless Giuliani says anything to get Mueller to close up shop and then when Sessions/Huber/Horowitz goes after the bunch, Donald shrugs his shoulders and says “There is nothing I can properly do”.
        I guess we will have to wait and see what is going on here.


      • rhinOC says:

        I think you have it backwards. Giuliani walks into Mueller’s office and says…”Stop now and I let you live another day. Persist and you’re going to prison. Look into Mueller’s past. He’s as dirty as they come. He may be a white hat when this is over, but his past precludes me from ever liking this guy. He stinks as much as Rosenstein and Weissman.


        • gnome says:

          I agree with you. There’s essentially nothing Mueller has to offer Trump in exchange for any leniency he (Mueller) might want to seek for Clinton. Nor is there any reason to think Mueller would want to clear her.

          OTOH, Trump is clearly not in favour of going after Obummer. He still thinx the position of President should be protected from retributive political prosecution. It is the one position of Trump’s I vehemently disagree with, and I think eventually Obummer’s ongoing misdeeds will wear him down, but for now, it is what it is.

          In the grand washup, the ripples on the pond will be reflected back inwards anyway, and no-one worthy of prosecution will escape. That’s provided, of course, that someone throws a witch into the pond to start the ripples in the first place.


  2. So the Clinton crime family skate again?

    Liked by 2 people

    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      Unacceptable. I can see quibbling over the death penalty.

      Liked by 5 people

      • Exactly. If Q is for real then SD’s analysis and conclusions are completely at odds. Q: NO DEALS.

        Liked by 2 people

        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          Yes, though not necessarily at odds,. Remember – Trump is the MASTER of the deal. That includes deals people don’t take. 😉

          We’ve seen this tactic OVER and OVER.

          Also, bear in mind that Q is not always right, not always having full knowledge, and not always having the final say. THAT is part of his bona fides. NOBODY keeps up perfectly with Trump/Jupiter.

          People are negotiating for too easy of deals, is my reading. Trump’s position is “no deals”. At some point, people figure out that their best move is FULL CONFESSION, and let their cooperation POST FACTO get the deal with THE JUDGE.

          There is a big difference between NEGOTIATION and GETTING A DEAL. I think we will see this in full play here.

          I agree – no deals. Cooperate and count on justice, or walk and take your chances on an unjust acquittal. Those are the choices.

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    • Eilert says:


      The swamp will never be drained if either Clinton or Obama skate. They are part of the Deep State. They or their decedents will wait for another day, maybe 10 or 100 hundred years, to try again like their predecessors did, if they are not stopped,

      It is easy politically to say we don’t touch them, simply because one wants to avoid conflict in the name of peace. That peace is only an allusion.

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  3. boot says:

    SD’s analysis includes ” Giuliani is a well qualified person to present the Trump administration position within these negotiations. They are essentially negotiating who faces criminal prosecution and who doesn’t.”

    Taken at face value, I find that difficult to understand. PDJT cannot take direct action to influence DOJ’s investigations and/or prosecution e.g. Giuliani could not promise that evidence (if any) of illegal acts on Weiner’s laptop would not be pursued; or that HRC’s email issues would not be pursued etc etc. Also, because Mueller has to act in accordance with the law otherwise he is in dereliction of his duties as SC, he could not promise that he would not indict, for example, Kushner for illegal acts (if any) etc etc if his investigators brought evidence to his attention. Therefore it can only be a negotiation about how to come up with a political approach to achieve a compromise on both sides. For example ……..

    Mueller closes the investigation immediately (which means his rabid pitbull lawyers in his team have to stop further investigation of PDJT’s family members etc). Mueller issues a brief preliminary statement that there is evidence of the Russian Government’s efforts to influence the presidential election. There were contacts between a few people associated with PDJT’s campaign and the Russians however, although the contacts may have been unwise, there is no evidence of collusion resulting in illegal acts taking place. PDJT was not involved in these contacts. Other issues arose during the investigation and appropriate indictments made in accordance with the law and with the agreement of the DOJ. A full and detailed report would be made in Dec 2018.

    PDJT has achieved a very major goal in having the witch hunt closed and being fully cleared of any collusion with the Russians. PDJT issues a statement that he is very pleased that this controversial issue has been closed. For the good of the country, now is the time to put the past behind us, unify the country, etc etc. He has full confidence that the DOJ/FBI will act in accordance with the law on any outstanding issues but he will concentrate on moving forward etc etc rather than bringing up the past etc etc (i.e. implying he may stop tweeting about HRC’s emails etc etc).

    Sessions/Horowitz/ Huber proceed on their current course.

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  4. Blade says:

    Negotiating all this with Robert Mueller will likely be Rudy Giuliani’s primary job.

    Likely the general public will never know the ultimate deal decisions. We will only be able to gauge the scale of corruption by the officials Mueller agrees to sacrifice.

    It doesn’t really matter what Giuliani or by extension President Trump ‘offers’ Team Mueller, this thing is on autopilot. No phone calls or tweets can get Sessions or anyone in DoJ to stand-down, that in itself would be corruption ( no different than Lynch has likely done with threatening SDNY ). And the OIG is even further out of their reach than is Sessions. And this is where the independence that Sessions has received through all those critical tweets by Trump become useful. So neither Mueller or Trump have much to talk about with respect to the larger swamp. It either gets drained or it doesn’t based on the available evidence ( i.e., whatever they haven’t already buried, shredded or burn bagged ).

    What Trump can offer through Giuliani, which is still unethical, would be a promise not to pardon anyone, and also whether he will testify or respond in a letter. And he could promise not to tweet anymore, but I really doubt any of these things will be ‘on the table’.

    Mueller’s job was in fact to try to save as much of the deep state swamp as possible and he did this by employing the members of his team we have become familiar with. But that backfired too since it elevated their visibility right onto the radar of Sessions’s DoJ and its OIG. No was does Weissman walk away from this unscathed as his already thin cover for his gestapo tactics are now going to be examined in multiple cases. So let not your hearts be troubled, President Trump couldn’t stop this even if he wanted to. And be thankful for that because if he could stop it, then we have not achieved a single thing by his election.

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  5. CanaCon says:

    I’d like to see Meuller get his, or at least his reputation’s, comeuppance as a result of the Uranium One investigation.

    Liked by 4 people

  6. ablefox says:

    Total corruption.

    Liked by 2 people

  7. Countrywatch says:

    Mueller’s saving face should not involve letting the bigger players (who were after all the most critical in the whole bring down Trump enterprise) “go free”. The key players are symbols to the left and if they are left untouched and not brought to justice, then the problem will not have been addressed or solved It will be ready to spring up again in the future. Why let this happen? It would make a mockery of draining the swamp if the key instigators are untouched.

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  8. John Ely says:

    Cohen raid was to open a second front for negotiations. New York atty general is the only hope to protect Obama Clinton as mueller is out of ammo.


  9. Pat Frederick says:

    okay, since theories are all over the place here’s mine: you cannot kill the snake without cutting off it’s head, in this case 2 heads. If you leave Hill and Obama unscathed, you risk infuriating the base that wants them prosecuted, and embolden traitor wannabees to attempt this kind of thing later.
    what to do? what to do?
    you fry the witch—but before that happens, she falls ill and is incarcerated in a “hospital” where she spends her remaining few days–seriously if she’s incarcerated, someone will make sure she dies quickly.
    as for Obama–he’s out of the country, being brought back to face trial, when his plane mysteriously disappears—presumably all on board perish. (he is escorted to Gitmo in secret). fools his base, placates the President’s base who believe he’s dead…
    we can all speculate what’s happening…but I bet the truth will eventually be revealed to be much stranger

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  10. As others have posted, I don’t think HRC or even Obama are going to walk. There is no saving the democratic party. It needs to be torn down and rebuilt clean. Bringing those two to justice is critical to ensuring that this takes place.

    They don’t have much direct leverage left in any case.
    The only people with direct leverage over Trump are members of Congress who can impeach/convict. I suspect Mueller is primarily negotiating on their behalf (and there are many) because they would otherwise be exposed to criminal charges without Mueller’s political shield. Especially if Hillary goes ‘scorched earth’.

    So some congressmen are going to walk, but if Rudy gets a deal here we will be on our way to Make Congress Great Again, because the guilty parties won’t be able to run for re-election under the likely terms of the agreement!

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  11. RJones says:

    Prosecuting The Clinton’s and Obama is FUNDAMENTAL. This is a war which must be fought to the end, regardless of who the casualties end up being and regardless of whether president Trump is injured in the process. This fight is over the future of the country. These democrats cannot under any circumstances be permitted to negotiate their way out of this.

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    • PoCoNoMo says:

      President Trump must never be injured, he must be well protected at all cost. if Trump is injured politically or literally, or worse, it’s all over. If anybody thinks it couldn’t get worse than after President Kennedy’s assassination, which led us to where we are now, they are badly mistaken.
      I can’t even entertain the idea of harm to our President Trump.
      So in his second term, I hope he could get rid of the Senior Executive Services, too, and then the Fed. Wow, well, Obama did say “Hope for Change.” A girl can dream, can’t she?


  12. Ditch Mitch says:

    Fly on the wall:
    “I’ll give you one Bozo and two clowns for one Page”

    Meet me at Checkpoint Charlie at midnight.


  13. Impatient says:

    I belive that Giuliani’s offer to Mueller will be to point out that Mueller’s position gets weaker as each piece of the IG report comes out, and if he wants to salvage his reputation, he needs to do a graceful close and exit now. If he hangs tough, he will get painted with the same brush as the other black hats.
    For example, someone should ask why the Mueller team pressed Cohen to drop his Fusion GPS lawsuit – why was that a negotiating point for the Mueller team? Why should the Mueller team care if Fusion-GPS has to explain how the dossier was prepared – if it was above board, that should not be a problem.

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  14. Elizabeth Carter says:

    President Trump has put his life on the line every day since he decided to run. We have supported him and prayed for him through it all. I believe that President Trump respects the Rule of Law and the Office of the President.
    I do not believe that he fought this hard to simply surrender and let the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas walk away. If we wanted that we could have elected any one. Pence would have just surrendered day one and saved us all a lot of time and money.
    If the opposition had found anything on President Trump, they would never let him walk away. They have not found anything and they still trash him every day and they trash us. If they could have assassinated him they would have done it and still will at the first opportunity.
    The whole world understands how corrupt our government has been for decades. Obama went around the world laughing at us and destroying any illusion of respect the people of the world might still have had for us.
    Any concessions that are made to these corrupt leaders will be seen by them and their supporters as a victory and they will come after President Trump and his supporters even more viciously than they have been.
    Corruption at the top must be stopped completely. It must be exposed and prosecuted. NO DEALS.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

      You had me at “Hello”.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Benson II says:

      I’ll accept any concession/deal to stop the Mueller witch hunt. I don’t care what Giuliani offers Mueller because unless it’s written in blood and is legally binding it means absolutely nothing. My only hope is whatever is offered, Mueller will fall for it hook line and sinker. Get him gone and then go forward, get all the proof needed to convict and send all of those involved in the attempt to oust a legally elected president to prison. If Mueller stops the witch hunt and then all prosecutions go forward against the guilty what is Mueller going to do about it, write his memoirs and say, but Giuliani promised me so and so wouldn’t be prosecuted. That may feed the leftist maniacs but with proof positive about the guilt and prosecutions taking place whatever he says, would be an admission he thought they were guilty, else why would he have accepted the deal to protect them.


  15. SharkFL says:

    Prosecuting Hillary to prison must be the starting point for Rudy. But I demand that Obama is mandatory for prison also. This corruption must be exposed and punished bigly, or else it will never stop. Gallows for Hildog. Gallows for B Hussein ______.

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  16. daughnworks247 says:

    That the greatest nation on earth, has been sidelined, by a large handful of schemers, for political vindictiveness, is a crime we will never forgive.
    They wasted our time when real Americans need help.

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  17. pacnwbel says:

    Heads must roll and not just those of low level scapegoats. The swamp dwellers have pushed this rubbish too far to be eased out gracefully. In spite of all this disgraceful scheming, the hurdles and deceit he has had thrown at him, our President has kept his promises he made to the country with incredible fortitude. Rudy please make your bite worse than your bark, Maga, Kag.

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  18. GW says:

    Why negotiate snything at all ??? If it’s drying up on its own, then let it dry up – and when it’s completely withered let the full weight of exposure and Justice fall on the Clontons and Lynch, Holder and Obsma !
    The thought that these scum might escape comeuppance and continue to be mouthpieces for any-American values, propagandists, race-baiters, and seditioners for many years to come is just too much to live with !
    They Must Face the (political) Gallows !

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  19. Donna in Oregon says:

    By now the Treasury Dept. knows where all the stolen money is and which Law Firms have been laundering the Swamp’s ill-gotten gains.

    Executive Order by POTUS will allow Treasury to seize the funds.

    RICO. Rudy.

    Rudy the RICO Czar.

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  20. Kid Jupiter says:

    Who the F is Robert Mueller to be “negotiating” anything? Who is this guy? If Clinton, Obama, Comey, etc broke the law, they should be help accountable. This is a bunch of BS!


  21. gretaherndon says:

    I hope this doesn’t mean HRC’s crimes remain hidden. Her corruption needs to be fully exposed so even her diehard supporters see how corrupt she is.

    Liked by 1 person

  22. Joe says:

    No deals. Fight until the end. He’ll lose reelection if these people walk.

    Liked by 1 person

  23. Mickturn says:

    Rudy to Muller. Either you abandon this witch hunt or we will totally destroy you for your past pathetic work on other legal items…and YOU KNOW what I’m talking about, we have ALL the evidence…does Whitey ring a bell?


  24. jello333 says:

    Was busy commenting on other posts before getting to this one… but wish I had been here when it first went up because I would have said what I already said elsewhere, and what many others have said here:


    Of course I’m not talking about the lower-level minions like Strzok and Page, especially if they’re helping as much as we suspect. Yeah, let them off with something less than jail time if we need to. But NOT so for others. We already know that McCabe and most likely Comey are going down. And hopefully there’s enough on Lynch that she’s out of luck, too.

    But if the evidence is there to go all the way to the top, including Hillary and Obama, then Rudy (or anyone else) had better NOT try to work out some “deal” that lets them skate! Even if it means the Muh Russia “investigation” will continue, so be it. If the deal is “We’ll stop the Russia investigation if you agree to stop digging into the highest level people,” then just NO!

    Now I’ll make one small amendment to my NO DEAL stance: If it looks like we’re on the verge of seeing Obama himself indicted, with a lot of details of his criminality and immorality starting to go public, then I MAY be okay with Trump stepping in at that point. Saying that “for the good of the country” he’s gonna pardon Obama even before any charges are formally filed. But at the same time, making all the sordid details of what he COULD be charged with public. While that would keep Obama (a “former president”) out of prison, it would also put the GUILTY! stamp right on his forehead for the rest of his life… AND his “legacy” is now be a sick joke.

    Now THAT kind of deal I think we can live with.


  25. William Murphy says:

    fwiw, I would like to add that is not only the Dems who make up the corruption.
    Lots of repubs have been retiring to “spend more time with their family”
    Uh huh.

    I’d like to see some later investigations in that direction. Wouldn’t you?
    How many times did Trump’s people knife him in the back? Et tu Paule?

    Take no prisoners.


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