President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump Arrive in Beijing China…

President Xi Jinping rolled out the red carpet complete with marching band and joyful children for the arrival of President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump.

However, there will be strict controls on U.S. and Western media, so don’t expect too much unchecked communication; as well as expansive control over the optics of the general Chinese population. Beijing’s old guard will not want the optic of too warm a welcome from the uncontrolled population toward their primary geopolitical adversary.

Schedule:

2:40pm (Local) / 1:40am (U.S. Easern) THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY arrive at Beijing Airport, Beijing, Peoples Republic of China

President Donald Trump was greeted Wednesday by a military honor guard and flag-waving schoolchildren in China, the third country in his 12-day Asia tour.

U.S. ambassador to China Terry Branstad met Trump and his secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, after Air Force One stopped on the tarmac in Beijing.

The president and first lady Melania are headed for a tour of the Forbidden City, and a meeting with President Xi Jinping and first lady Madame Peng Liyuan.  (read more)

3:30pm / 2:30am THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY will have tea with President Xi Jinping of the Peoples Republic of China and Madame Peng Liyuan, Forbidden City, Beijing, Peoples Republic of China

3:55pm / 2:55am THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY tour the Forbidden City and view an opera performance with President Xi and Madame Peng Liyan, Forbidden City, Beijing, Peoples Republic of China.

6:00pm / 5:00am THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY have dinner with President Xi and Madame Peng, Beijing, Peoples Republic of China

7:05pm / 6:05am THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart the Forbidden City en route their overnight accommodations, Beijing, Peoples Republic of China.

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481 Responses to President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump Arrive in Beijing China…

  1. bosscook says:

    What will be most interesting is what happens AFTER the visit. We are still speculating, but the Saudi visit brought forth the Prince putting the hammer down. Lil’ Kim might feel the same kind of hammer.

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  2. Bull Durham says:

    Some Chinese news links, some in English, some in Chinese, some are opposition in Hong Kong and Taiwan, showing how they are “handling” the event.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/index.html
    http://en.people.cn/index.html
    http://www.chinaview.cn

    http://www.ntdtv.com
    http://www.ben.com.cn/jx/jj/201711/08/t20171108_11074526.html

    The opposition in Hong Kong:
    http://www.scmp.com/frontpage/international

    Taiwan is ignoring it on this website:
    http://www.chinatimes.com

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    • sunnydaze says:

      Here’s the Taipei Times article. It describes the upbeat energy of the visit and then ends with a quote from a Prof. at the University of SoCal. Typical Left/Dem garbage: ie. “The Chinese are flattereing Trump to get what they want, they know Trump likes to be flattered….” (paraphrase).

      As.If. Trump’s a weakling who won’t stand up for the USA if China treats him well.

      Keep in mind, Taiwan (where I lived for a few years), is scared of the US appearing to “choose sides” when it comes to Taiwan/China issue – and I can’t blame them for that.

      However, I seriously doubt Trump will “choose” China “over” Taiwan. It’s just a tightrope that needs to be walked. And if anyone can do it, Trump can.

      http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2017/11/09/2003681927

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      • Wend says:

        It’s really too bad that USC has become an “academic” cesspool like all the others. I have an MA in International Relations from SC and the school had a great range of teachers from Marxists to disciples of Herman Kahn-I was actually thinking of going back for a PhD then found my job with the INS.

        I still love the football team and always will.

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      • singingsoul says:

        sunnydaze says:
        “Here’s the Taipei Times article. It describes the upbeat energy of the visit and then ends with a quote from a Prof. at the University of SoCal. Typical Left/Dem garbage: ie. “The Chinese are flattereing Trump to get what they want, they know Trump likes to be flattered….” (paraphrase).
        As.If. Trump’s a weakling who won’t stand up for the USA if China treats him well.”
        _________________________________________
        I agree with you Sundaze “As.If. Trump’s a weakling who won’t stand up for the USA if China treats him we”
        POTUS did not get this far by relying on Kudos and flattery. He built a business and negotiated with people who wanted to flatter him I am sure.
        The Chinese need to learn that flattery only gets them that far. POTUS is very a stood and aware of culture and human nature he shown this over and over.

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        • sunnydaze says:

          I’m pretty sure the Chinese already know that “flattery will get them nowhere” with Trump.

          I think that’s part of the reason they respect him. I’m seeing genuine respect here, not “flattery”.

          The Chinese are master negotiators and don’t need to play silly games to get a good deal for themselves.

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          • I see genuine respect here also. Quite a contrast to Obama’s September 2016 reception in China for the G20. Obama had to exit from the rear of Air Force One because an exit staircase wasn’t provided on the tarmac.Obama received the same treatment in 2009. . The Chinese are good at sending subtle and not so subtle hints about your standing with them.

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    • lfhbrave says:

      SCMP, like most Hong Kong newspapers, both English and Chinese, is now controlled by the Chinese government through entities like Alibaba. They are not opposition newspapers.

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  3. fleporeblog says:

    Just the symbolism from last September when Barry from Kenya had to depart Air Force One from the back of the plane in China compared to the welcome our President and FLOTUS got departing Air Force One today just makes me so HAPPY! That is RESPECT! The Chinese considered Barry from Kenya to be a weakling that they were able to manipulate for the past 8 years. They see our LION as someone that is never going to allow them to walk right over him. They also realize that our President could put their paper economy in a world of hurt.

    The final paragraph from the article tells me everything when it comes to North Korea and our trade imbalance:

    ‘The United States isn’t going to barter away our interests on the trade front in order to make gains doing what the entire world has, more or less, obligated itself to do, and that is to contain and confront the threat from North Korea,’ the official asserted. ‘So I don’t see a commingling of those two issues.’

    I really think we are going to hear an incredible agreement has been reached with China that will absolutely eat into the trade deficit that we currently have. We know that our President was able to accomplish that in Japan and South Korea by getting both countries to purchase billions of dollars to buy our military weaponry and our LNG.

    We went into this trip with a $474 billion dollar deficit with China, Japan, South Korea and Vietnam.

    Japan 🇯🇵- $65 Billion
    South Korea 🇰🇷 – $27 Billion
    China 🇨🇳 – $350 Billion
    Vietnam 🇻🇳- $32 Billion

    That deficit will be drastically improved because we have an AMERICA FIRST PRESIDENT!

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  4. sunnydaze says:

    Love watching President Trump abroad, *especially* in East Asia! Wish our time dif. wasn’t so large so we could see this stuff in real time.

    I would love it if the US just kind of jettisoned Western Europe and their EU/Globalist fixation and became stronger partners with East Asian countries. Feel we Americans have more in common with them now than we do with the failed/close to no-hope Western European mess.

    Asian countries still have cultural pride and want autonomy on the World Stage. Equals treated as Equals. That’s what *I* want for the U.S.

    Western Europe just wants an insipid Global Soup run by a few secret insiders that nobody knows.

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    • Johnny Bravo says:

      Sunnydaze, please bear in mind there is a huge difference between what the people and the idiots in power want in the European Union.

      European people needs the eu like a hole in the head. Whilst it is not the US’s problem, globalism has been a western world vision pushed by globalists and all people deserve to be free.

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      • sunnydaze says:

        Yes, Johnny. I realize that there are many W. Europeans who have “had it” with the nonsense over there. I feel for them.

        But unfortunately, the nonsense continues unabated.

        And while it does, I’m over W. Europe.

        If the people there ever fight (figuratively or otherwise) to get their countries back, I’ll be happy to align again.

        Til that happens, no thanks.

        Eastern Europe all the way.

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        • Wend says:

          Eastern Europe is the best-starting with Austria, my favorite European country. How about their 31 year old Benedict Cumberbatch look-alike PM!?

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        • Cuppa Covfefe says:

          Then try reading some of the comments sections of the German media for instance.
          They’re in German, of course, but that’s closer to English than Chinese or one of the other Asian languages, so it shouldn’t be that hard to do.

          If you would look at the Parliamentary systems in Europe, and the way voting works here
          (e.g. the selection, not ELECTION, of the Kanzler/in), you would see that it’s much more complex, and has been that way since the various Kingdoms and fiefdoms went away. No country in Europe has only one, or even two parties. And Soros, et. al., controlled the US as much or more in the years since Reagan, indeed in most of the years since Eisenhower
          (they got rid of Kennedy, for instance, and tried to get rid of Reagan). And the eight years of Øbozo and the potential regime of Hill-the-BEAST show that the US was not immune to the illumis, either.

          The folks of Eastern Europe are very good, but they’re not perfect, and they’re not out of the shadow of communism yet. Please learn a little more about how things work over here, and how people think over here, before you go trashing us.

          If you believe what the YSM says about folks here, or what the literally-translated birdcage-liners say, then you’re not getting the real news at all.

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          • sunnydaze says:

            I have relatives there, Cuppa, who HATE what is happening but are completely brainwashed to believe that it’ll be racist to elect anyone who wants to do anything about it.

            Sad, but true.

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            • Cuppa Covfefe says:

              I LIVE in Germany. My wife and extended family ARE GERMAN. You underestimate the German people. And, like I said, you (and I suppose your relatives) should look at the comments as opposed to the media. MGGA. Ask your relatives about the AfD, and why the Greens are failing in their part of the grand coalition talks (Jamaika Sondierungen).
              Might end up with a new election, as the AfD should have been in the coalition, not the Greens…

              (By the way, my American roots go back to the first decade of the 1700s; I’m half English, and I’ve lived in Germany more than 30 years after having suffered 30 years in Kalifornistan. I read and speak to Germans every day; some have been fooled, but a most of them are calling BS. I’m in south Germany, though, where folks are “show me, or it didn’t happen”…)

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  5. joshua says:

    Trump prepares a Thanksgiving Present from History for North Korea….

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    • CiscoKid says:

      Big Boy & Fat Boy.
      I’m not callus, if they weren’t dropped, estimates of casualties expected in invasion of mainland Japan was 1 million.
      Read that as dead, wounded, dying and missing.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        The plans (if waiting for conventional invasion) were still to use something like 10 bombs to clear landing zones. And I think the 1 million was just our side. The number of dead Japanese would have been mind-boggling, because resistance would have been fierce.

        Bluffing with our only 2 bombs to end the war and price atomic bombs out of “everyday usage” for everybody was a very smart move, IMO, even though it was a calculated act of horror against civilians. The world is actually very lucky that we had so many long-term thinkers working for the allies during WWII.

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      • Risasi says:

        Also don’t forget that our allies, the Soviets, were looking to also invade mainland Japan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_War

        While the two bombs certainly helped it would seem that without Crazy Ivan looking to flood Japanese shores with men Japan would have continued to steel their resolve and we would have fought a ground war for some indefinite period of time even after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

        I do wish Truman had held off a while longer before he “sowed to the wind”.

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  6. emet says:

    The Forbidden City housed the government of the Manchus, who conquered and subjegated the Han Chinese. As you stroll the grounds you will notice signs written in Manchurian. Historically, it was not always a source of pride. If you have read The True Story of A Q, there is a demonstrator holding a placard stating “fanqing fuming”, which roughly means overturn the Qing (Manchu) dynasty and restore the Ming (the previous dynasty).

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    • joshua says:

      not a lot about Black Lives Matter to be seen in China either…..

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      • emet says:

        China has well over 100 ethnic minorities. And many do not like the Chinese govt and generally do what they want. The central govt has weak to nonexistant control in many areas. A lot of these areas are backward and basically lawless.

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      • Wend says:

        Unless you count the UCLA idiots who BF just told me have been released from custody and are under house arrest in the hotel.

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        • Cuppa Covfefe says:

          High up in the hills of Westwood,
          Sprawled offensive to the eye
          Lies a Cal Extension campus
          Knowns as Westwood High (Hi Hi Hi)….

          (though ‘SC is not much better due to their globalist IR college, Bushian in point-of-view).

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  7. n1ghtcr4wler says:

    I’ve watched China’s English tv channel CGTN. Their Washington reporter was actually factual and objective.

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  8. fred5678 says:

    I want to see and end to the hundreds of Chinese spies/industrial thieves in our country, all of whom the FBI has to chase around — and INSIDE the FBI itself!!

    “Today the Department of Justice revealed that a longtime employee of the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been charged with espionage on behalf of China, his homeland. Kun Shan Chun, who was employed by the FBI since 1997, was arrested back in March of this year and has already pleaded guilty to his betrayal.

    Chun, who went by “Joey,” worked for nearly two decades as an electronics technician with the FBI’s huge New York field office, where ten percent of the Bureau is assigned. He held Top Secret security clearances since 1998. Part of his job, as one of the legions of technical personnel who support the FBI’s storied special agents, included accessing classified information. It seems safe to assume that was what Chun was sharing with Beijing..”

    http://observer.com/2016/08/breaking-chinese-mole-uncovered-inside-the-fbi/

    And Silicone Valley:

    http://thehill.com/policy/technology/242482-chinese-professors-among-those-charged-with-economic-espionage

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    • emet says:

      Larry Wu-tai Chin was a mole in the FBIS (CIA) from 1952 to 1985. Did horrific damage. Complete bio in wikipedia. Why is he buried in Palo Alto? Was a big hero in China

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      • fred5678 says:

        Yes — YUGE problem.

        “As I explained in this column, rising Chinese espionage presents a serious problem for the United States because it’s so heavily ethnic in character. Beijing expects its nationals overseas—whom we want to view as patriotic immigrants and naturalized Americans—to serve as their spies abroad, and some of them are quite willing to do so, particularly if China sweetens the pot with financial incentives. This seems to have been the case with Chun.”

        http://observer.com/2016/08/breaking-chinese-mole-uncovered-inside-the-fbi/

        “Chinese espionage, both online and old-fashioned, represents a serious threat to American security and prosperity, as Washington, DC, has stated many times. Cyber theft and online pilfering of American intellectual property was castigated as “the greatest transfer of wealth in history” by the director of the National Security Agency back in 2012, and things have only gotten worse since then, with China taking the lead in stealing our secrets for profit and strategic advantage”

        http://observer.com/2016/04/the-unpleasant-truth-about-chinese-espionage/

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      • Cuppa Covfefe says:

        East Palo Alto would be fitting for him…

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    • fred5678 says:

      SILICON Valley !!

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      • singingsoul says:

        Research University are full of Chines Nationals. Professors prefer them to American PhD because they never complain and work 24/7. Research Professors believe their people need not to have a personal life. There is one problem many Chines while very good technically cannot think out of the box or salve problems. They need to be directed what to do all the time. They also like to pick the brain of their co workers but never give info to them. The Russians are the same in research. They like to use others ideas as their own.

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      • Cuppa Covfefe says:

        Might be both, anymore, sad to say. Then again, Carol didn’t “INVENT”… (OK, OK, the Valley only goes to PA or San Carlos or so)…

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  9. winky says:

    Some very nice pics of PTrump and FL along with Chinese president and wife…also very stylish .

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5061613/Melania-Trump-makes-elegant-arrival-Beijing.html

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  10. AmSa/Mx says:

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  11. 🍺🍸Gunny says:

    new commentater , long time listener

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    • Blacksmith8 says:

      Howdy

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      • 🍺🍸Gunny says:

        Howdy ,
        I worked in China for over two years for an American company that makes boules for the LCD industry. So allow me to add a few points.
        China is rampant with crime.”Everyone” has bars on their windows, esp
        the first floor. Robbers break in kill everyone and are never caught. Almost no police, govt is the police.
        For “any” Chinese to gain permission to travel to the US, they must have a living close relative inChina. I.E. “You request asylum, we hurt you family” Actually their are Chinese “”without “ close family. 1 child only for years etc. Many of the young hinese I met feel a trapped.
        Polution . Shanghai is probably the most polluted city on earth. Asked a local
        about this.,, she pressed a finger to her lips and said “it’s fog” Absolutly frightened of the Govt.
        I agree with most of you, it is just a play. I’ been there

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  12. Apfelcobbler says:

    What a year it has been! So happy to see President DJT and First Lady Melania representing our country in the dignified manner it deserves. After one of the President’s best speeches! Just one year ago it was – almost – too much to hope for! Maybe 1% due to luck- the rest was really hard work! I can’t recall a more dedicated hard-working President in my lifetime – make that First Couple!

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  13. jindfw says:

    Lest not forget, PDJT is on a business trip, not a vacation. Who cares about the optics Xi puts forth to his people? (Barbarian bowing to show respect to China, blah, blah) Who cares about a picture at a split second in time that Melania is not smiling? My goodness, she can’t be radiating 24x7x365. Maybe she’s just tired? She’s not used to the travel. On the other hand, what matters is what’s done while there. We can give anyone anything we wish to give them as long as we get what we want. PDJT got this.

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  14. Gaius Gracchus says:

    Interesting comments and visuals. A2 is right, partiality, about how Xi is presenting President Trump. The Chinese emperors used foreign delegations to bolster domestic power and to awe the barbarians.

    And it is important to view the ChiCons as the latest dynasty of China, rather than an ideology. Mao, like Chiang Kai Shek, was more like a warlord from the many conflicts of the 20s and 30s in China.

    Most of his efforts were designed at control. He did try to change Chinese culture, but culture really changes slowly long term. It bounces back.

    I recently read that most millionaires (90%+) in China are descendants of pre Communist wealthy families. Communism did far less to change society than should have happened.

    China views itself as the Middle Kingdom, the center of the world. When the country prospers, then the rulers have the “Mandate of Heaven”, the idea that heavenly forces approve of the ruler and bless China.

    When disaster and strife occur, these are signs that the Mandate of Heaven is gone.

    In the 19th century, with rebellion and foreign wars, the Qing dynasty was seen as having lost the Mandate of Heaven, allowing for the birth of the republic in the early 20th century.

    But what Chinese rulers have really hated, especially since the Opium Wars, was being disrespected.

    President Trump has taken the exact necessary tone and posture with the Chinese. He honors them but doesn’t suck up to them. He treats them as a great competitor and adversary, as an equal or near equal.

    Since WW2, the US has been the center of the world. The Chinese recognize that. As such, being treated as an equal is a huge honor.

    Since Clinton, the US has been seen by China as a corrupt decaying power. Clinton was easily bribed by China and sold China important missile tech. We allowed China to pillage our economy, all in the name of selfish greed. We demonstrared over and over again our weakness, while building up China.

    If Hillary had won, the Chinese were ready to assume the primary position in the world. But with Trump, they see an America reinvigorated, led by a true leader.

    Trump is pushing China to act as if really has all the power it believes it has. With power comes responsibilty, and China must be willing to pressure North Korea, to control North Korea.

    Trump will not suck up to China. China will treat Trump with dignity and grace. They want peace.

    A multipolar world does work to keep world peace. Great Powers work together to manage issues. And China is more than willing to work with Trump.

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  15. emet says:

    If you are not yet tired of corruption stories, read about TV Soong and how he became, arguably, the richest man in the world stealing from the Chinese people and siphoning US aid. Good intro is Soong Dynasty by Seagrave

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  16. Sylvia Avery says:

    I am not a regular viewer of Laura Ingram’s new FOX show, but I did catch it last night or at least most of it. She had a segment about China with Gordon Chang and some other Chinese expert. They were interesting. She was not. She doesn’t trust Trump on China and thinks he will basically sell us out by ignoring China’s bad trade policies in exchange for their controlling NK.

    I think she underestimates PDJT. I don’t expect he will be or can be as tough on China as I’d like to see because he will have to give some to get some with regards to NK. That is just reality. But there is no way he is going to continue being soft on China like we have been since Bill Clinton was in office. PDJT is much tougher than that. Laura really annoyed me. She ought to know better.

    But the rest of her show was pretty good.

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    • GetReal says:

      Ingraham is a “purist” like Rand Paul in that she insists on a 100% conservative solution or nothing. It is a losing approach both domestically and with other nations. All sides must get something in a deal or no deal will be struck. President Trump understands this but simple minds like Ingraham do not. Having China control or better yet take down Rocket Man would be worth much.

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    • FL_GUY says:

      Everyone underestimates President Trump. That is why he always walks away from the poker table with most of the chips (he let’s the other players keep a few)..

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    • CountryclassVulgarian says:

      If Laura doesn’t trust our President on China then she has never listened to him when he has spoken about China and Chinese policy.

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      • Sylvia Avery says:

        Battered Conservative Syndrome, I suspect.

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      • MaineCoon says:

        What does it takes for these people to stop being so negative about President Trump when he has worked miracles in every arena he has touched. I’m really tired of these naysayers – Laura, Ann Coulter, to name a few.

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      • singingsoul says:

        CountryclassVulgarian says:
        “If Laura doesn’t trust our President on China then she has never listened to him when he has spoken about China and Chinese policy.”
        _______________________________________
        What is it with people that seem to think they know better than President Trump…? They have never held office never were elected but somehow they have to put their 2 Cents into it. I say let Trump be Trump he earned our trust it is the GOP and the Congress , FBI, DOJ, and others that lost our trust.
        Go Trump Make America Great Again

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  17. I’m hopeful this will be a good start to a stern, but fair relationship with China. Trump will be a much better liaison than that rear end kissing Obummer.

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  18. quintrillion says:

    get the memeing?

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  19. Donna in Oregon says:

    I see 21st Century Fox is being parted out to Disney. Murdoch is in trouble. I think the Globalists are mad at him for President Trump’s election.

    Get ready for more consolidated propaganda news on President Trump. The next 2 years will be tightly censured.

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    • Wend says:

      Just what we need, more Big Media consolidation, huh Donna!

      BF and I are reading a lot of stuff about the Stones right now. I wonder how the Jerry Hall-Rupert Murdoch marriage is going. One of her sons with Mick got married last year-both proud parents were there beaming away. Don’t know about Murdoch.

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    • fred2w says:

      @Donna in Oregon

      I heard the news about 21st Century Fox at Hybrid Network.

      As shown by the comments, even some movie fans are concerned about how this deal will stifle competition and expression.

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      From an article in the Jerusalem Post, Fox and Murdoch are deeply affected by the freeze and arrests in Saudi:

      Foremost among the potentates carted off in Saudi’s anti-corruption probe is Al-Waleed bin Talal, a prince whose vast holdings include a web of the most important media and financial groups in the United States: Twitter, News Corp, 21st Century Fox and Citigroup. A dozen other princes, and businessmen have been arrested as well.

      (I’ll post the link in a few minutes – copied the article w/o the link…sigh…).

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  20. Donna in Oregon says:

    I’ve been reading all the mystical stories about Chinese culture and what various parts of our President’s visit are meant to be disrespectful. I’ve read the Art of War and what I remember most about the Chinese people and how they conduct themselves is when Apple ran out of IPhones and the Chinese went cray cray……so much for the mystic meanings, eh??? snicker.

    The Chinese have bad tempers. That has always been their character flaw. Can read the Art of War and memorize it, but if you don’t have the character to back it up……it’s all smoke and mirrors if the character isn’t there. Character counts…..just sayin’

    Apple halts iPhone 4S sales in China after a near-riot
    A huge crowd outside its Beijing flagship turns ugly and pelts the store with eggs
    January 14, 2012|Jonathan Kaiman and Andrea Chang and John Lee
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/14/business/la-fi-0114-apple-china-20120114

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