Holy Cow – The Official Mandalay Bay Massacre Narrative Just Completely Changed – Latest Presser Video…

Well, well, well… the entire previous weeks claims about the timeline and structure of Stephen Paddock and how he carried out the Mandalay Bay Massacre just changed a full 180 degrees today when Sheriff Joseph Lombardo dropped a statement that Paddock did not begin shooting until his advanced preparation was interrupted by Mandalay Bay security officer Jesus “Jose'” Campos.

According to the latest stunning revelation by Sheriff Lombardo, security guard Campos was responding to a door alarm notification, presumably from a fire exit door being opened by suspect Paddock on the 32nd floor.  Upon reaching the floor, Campos noticed the hotel room suite door was ajar, and heard the sound of drilling (he didn’t knock).

Paddock was drilling a hole in a door (“adjacent room”) when Campos walked in at 9:59pm.  That’s when Paddock opened fire on Campos wounding him in the leg.  Immediately thereafter is when Stephen Paddock broke out the windows and opened fire on the crowd below.

This latest revelation is explosive because it shows Paddock was interrupted in the act of preparing for the attack, and not during the commission of the attack itself.

This explains a great deal about the event and why so many advanced preparations appeared not to have been utilized.  Unused ammunition, body armor, weapons etc.

This latest crucial bit of information is also explosive in that it may indicate there were other participants that might have been present, later, if the attack plan had proceeded without being interrupted by the security guard (the need for 23 firearms etc.).

Within these latest developments it is entirely possible that Paddock would have had a great deal more effectiveness in the overall attack if he had finished the preparation prior to carrying out the shooting.

The hurried need to carry out some level of the attack despite the interruption might also explain why Paddock just smashed out the windows to begin firing etc.  He may indeed have had a much more substantive plan, but was forced to drop that approach by the unexpected interruption prior to the shooting.

This new information essentially changes everything.  It is also most likely the reason why the LVMPD have stated they will not hold another presser until Friday.

The bigger problem for Las Vegas Police, FBI, DHS etc. is that this change is far more substantial than just the timeline.  This “new narrative” stinks to high heaven.

Think about this.  Not only are they saying the security guard encountered Paddock prior to the shooting of the crowd, which is fundamentally and factually different from their prior claims, but the essential points of how Campos engaged with arriving law enforcement is now entirely different.

Previously LVMPD stated: a 2nd guard met Campos at the elevator (seconds after reporting he’d been shot). Then, moments later, Campos and LVMPD stayed and cleared rooms taking their time because no shots were being fired at that time.  Now they want to say Campos was shot and what?…  He sat there by the elevator for 10 minutes before LVMPD arrived at the elevator while the shooting was ongoing?

This is not a timeline issue.  No way can this current explanation square with all the previous details, which were stated as facts day-after-day well into their fourth and fifth day press conferences.

Lombardo and the FBI were telling a story that they now admit was demonstrably false.  It’s not just getting the timeline wrong, it’s refuting all of the prior conversations these investigative officials claimed to have had with the responding officers.   That’s not a mistake, that’s a fundamental admission they were telling us false information.

Sheriff Lombardo is not only completely changing the shooting timeline as it relates to the responding security guard, he is entirely contradicting the investigations assertions and statements of investigative fact for the events.

Here’s the presser video with my notes bullet-pointed below:

  • Paddock’s brother is in town and being questioned.
  • No evidence of a 2nd shooter. (yet)
  • Approximately 200 of Paddock’s prior visits to Las Vegas and surrounding area tracked down – No other contacts identified.
  • Still no motive.
  • FBI begins releasing some property.  See FBI.GOV website for more details.
  • Anticipate one more week investigating physical site of attack.
  • Anticipate one more week investigating hotel room.
  • Investigation is very complicated.  “Complicated event reconstruction”
  • No further press conferences until Friday (October 13th)
  • Some evidence of medication in room. No details provided.
  • No note left in room.  Would not discuss night stand note and numbers.
  • Sheriff Lombardo very confrontational with questioning.
  • Security Guard heard drilling in room.  Drilling of “adjacent door” interrupted by security guard and not completed.
  • Security guard did not knock on hotel suite door.  Door was party ajar.
  • Security guard shot (at 9:59pm CST) prior to the mass shooting of the crowd at 10:05pm CST.  Repeat: PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING OF THE CROWD.
  • Guard was responding to alarm of “open door” (likely emergency stairwell)
  • Paddock had body armor and “self defense equipment”.
  • Paddock check in date at hotel Sept 25th (parking), but did not occupy hotel suite until September 28th.  Time between 25th and 28th is deepest investigative period officials cannot explain Paddock activity.
  • Paddock did plan to escape.  No details provided.
  • Multiple cell phones in room.  No details provided. (FBI Interruption)
  • Lots of electronic equipment were in the room.  Forensics ongoing.
  • Paddock disguised his movements in the periods immediately prior to the shooting date of October 1st.  Investigators perplexed by thoroughness of Paddock disguising his activity.
  • Sheriff Lombardo very aggressive, curt and short-tempered with this press conference.
  • No further press conferences scheduled until Friday October 13th.

How can investigative officials so clearly mislead the public on the timeline of the shooting itself as it relates to the security guard?…. and still hope to retain credibility with the public? … this makes no sense.

The disinformation previously provided on the exact shooting timeline itself was not accidental.  That affirmed timeline, and the statements of facts occurring within it, was provided FOUR DAYS after the attack.  More than enough time to have the timing and sequencing accurate.  The motive for misinformation is troubling.

The security guard (Jose Campos) being shot at 9:59pm would explain the quick response of LEO.  It wasn’t their magnanimous Las Vegas LEO ability.  Presumably Jose Campos was the reason they knew where the shooter was and got them there so quick.

Additionally, people are confused on the door(s). Campos was responding to an automatic security notification of a security exit (fire stairwell) door being opened. That’s typical. Almost all fire exits are wired to central alarms and give monitors signals when opened.

That door alarm was obviously (seems obvious) triggered when Paddock (shooter) drilled plates in the door frame to secure the door closed. Obviously this was anticipatory for SWAT arrival via the stairwell. And that’s exactly what SWAT did. SWAT needed a prybar to open the door (CBS interview).

Security Guard Campos arrived on the floor to check the emergency door alarm only to see Paddock’s suite door (that’s the 2nd door) slightly ajar, and hear drilling inside. Campos unexpected entry into the suite is what caused Paddock to fire upon him (notice the bullet holes in the door) and then kicked off the next 15 minutes of action (random firing into the concert crowd).

LEO stated the door drilling was inside the suite and likely for placement of a camera etc. and noted all of the electronic equipment.

Natural question becomes: What was the original target? What was the original plan if it wasn’t interrupted by Campos. What would the event have looked like if carried out according to plan?

Assuming, based on what did take place, Paddock needed approximately 30 more preparatory minutes for the full monty…. what would that have been?

How would successful preparations have changed the ultimate attack?

Nothing in any of those questions would lead a person to believe he planned to leave or escape. Indeed, even if he did “escape”, it would be silly with all those registered guns, and the room in his name, that Paddock would escape without anyone knowing who carried out the attack. Common sense tells you he didn’t plan to exit.

There’s nothing in evidence so far that looks like this wasn’t ultimately a suicide mission. Body armor and defensive equipment would only realistically be for a showdown gun battle with the arriving cops. [The only thing that would change that reality would be if the investigators found a parachute in the room – Highly unlikely].

If no exit plan, then what was all that stuff in the car for?

Was it a matter of bringing everything on September 25th with grand plans, and then reducing the plan according to reality he encountered with the venue? Most plausible explanation would be yes. ie. he modified his plan based on events he encountered and didn’t need all he brought.

He parks the car at Mandalay on Sept. 25th and then goes about gambling etc. His physical location between 9/25 and 9/28 is unknown by investigators (or so they claim). Obviously he wasn’t sleeping in his car… so where did he sleep on 9/25, 9/26 and 9/27?

That puts him checked into the suite on Sept. 28th (per Lombardo) and taking 3+ days to get all the gear into place and begin setting up the attack plan. However, there’s hotel in-room-dining receipts from September 27th.  Again, more false statements?

However, with all the meticulous planning itself in those preparatory days, did Paddock just misjudge the end time of the concert, or was there something else he had in mind that would come later? Was a more substantive attack (if plans were not interrupted) supposed to start at the conclusion of the concert?

Lots of questions.

However, knowing that Campos interrupted the plan, while it was in process, changes the dynamic of the attack narrative by a considerable amount.

The official story is getting sketchier by the day:

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  1. kea25252014 says:

    Paddock was drilling a hole in a door (“adjacent room”) when Campos walked in at 9:59pm. That’s when Paddock opened fire on Campos wounding him in the leg. Immediately thereafter is when Stephen Paddock broke out the windows and opened fire on the crowd below.—— And yet how hard is it to open those windows. Let alone two. Unless Paddock was already dead. This sounds like more then one person,

    This latest revelation is explosive because it shows Paddock was interrupted in the act of preparing for the attack, and not during the commission of the attack itself.— Huh? I mean he left explosives in his car?

    door alarm notification, presumably from a fire exit door being opened by suspect Paddock on the 32nd floor. —— Why would he have used the fire exit door? Unless someone else came up.

    noticed the hotel room suite door was ajar, and heard the sound of drilling (he didn’t knock).—– Why keep your room open. Unless to let someone in and its not recorded via key card. Unless Paddock was already dead.

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  2. John Doe says:

    Holy cow…just read on Twitter that FBI Agent in Charge, Aaron Rouse is the son in law of John Podesta. Does the evil ever end with these people?

    Of course #Comey named #Podesta's son-in-law #AaronRouse Special Agent in charge of the #LasVegas #FBI Division https://t.co/iQrSN75Tnb— Deep State Intel (@DeepStvte) October 9, 2017

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  3. jeans2nd says:

    Aaron Rouse, LV SAIC, seems particularly like a fish out of water in his current position.

    “(Rouse) worked violent crime and was on the Joint Fugitive Task Force…leadership positions in the Tampa Division, the San Antonio Division, and the Counterintelligence Division at FBIHQ.”
    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/aaron-rouse-named-special-agent-in-charge-of-the-las-vegas-division

    “On July 28, 2016, FBI Director James B. Comey named Aaron Rouse as the Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas Division. Mr. Rouse most recently served as Section Chief in the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters (FBI HQ).”

    “Mr. Rouse began his career with the FBI in September 1996, and was first assigned to the Washington Field Office (WFO) where he worked violent crime and was on both the Joint Fugitive Task Force and the Violent Crime/Reactive squads.”

    “In July 2002, Mr. Rouse was chosen to join the expanding National Security Branch at WFO and worked the asymmetric threat posed by a top tier threat country (ed. apparently Russia).”

    “In January 2005, Mr. Rouse became a Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) in the Counterintelligence Division at FBIHQ and worked as a Program Manager for Counterespionage matters.”

    “In April 2007, Mr. Rouse was selected as the senior liaison to the newly established Community HUMINT Coordination Center at CIA Headquarters. In this position he de-conflicted HUMINT enabled operations worldwide for not only the FBI, but for all federal agencies regarding Counterintelligence, Counterterrorism and Criminal matters.”

    “In April 2009, Mr. Rouse was promoted and served as an SSA and Program Coordinator for Counterintelligence in the Tampa Division.”

    “In January 2013, Mr. Rouse received a promotion and served as the National Security Branch Assistant Special Agent in Charge for the San Antonio Division.”

    “In October 2014, Mr. Rouse was appointed as the Section Chief for the Clandestine Operations Section in the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters.”

    “Prior to entering the FBI, Mr. Rouse was a state trooper in the New York State Police.”
    http://saltconference.com/speakers/rouse_aaron.html

    SSA Aaron Rouse, FBI Orlando, speaker at “Domain Awareness Research Technology Protection Conference,” April 25, 2012 Lockheed Martin, Global Training & Logistics, Orlando, Florida.”
    Topics were “counterintelligence issues, espionage, spy tradecraft, Cyber and Wi-Fi vulnerabilities…plus an inside look at the operations of an illegal Russian SVR spy network…( who were 10) Russian illegals…arrested by the FBI on June 27, 2010,…pled guilty in federal court to conspiring to serve as unlawful agents of the Russian Federation within the U.S….(speakers included a) professor and specialist in clandestine devices and espionage “tradecraft””
    http://fiswg.research.ucf.edu/Documents/Word/RTP%20Conference%20Orlando.doc

    18 Oct 2016
    “Las Vegas FBI Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse, speaking at a Nevada Election Integrity Task Force press conference at the Sawyer Building, called the notion that elections are not secure “extremely dangerous.””

    “Rouse, while not specifically referring to Trump, said such perceptions would cast doubt about the validity of the nation’s elections, which would only undermine the governmental process upon which the United States is built.””

    “Rouse said voting machines used in Nevada are not connected to the internet or any kind of network, which makes hacking them “physically impossible.” He also said that since 2004 when the new system was implemented, there have been zero errors detected.”
    https://www.reviewjournal.com/uncategorized/fbi-state-election-officials-assure-nevadans-their-votes-are-safe-from-fraud/

    20 Mar 2017
    “The election of President Donald Trump hasn’t changed how the FBI operates, as the federal agency steers clear of politics despite what “a lot of people would want to have (it be),” said Special Agent Aaron Rouse, the director of the FBI’s Las Vegas division.”

    “Rouse noted that he wants to shake the sometimes public perception that the FBI is a secret and rogue organization. He said that the agents and other employees follow the rule of law and are normal people just like everyone else.”
    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/mar/30/local-fbi-leader-agency-mission-protecting-us-not/
    ——————————–
    Rouse and Clear Channel LV had begun an electronic billboard campaign to combat child/sex slave trafficking
    21 Sep 2017
    http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/fbi-billboard-owner-begin-vegas-human-trafficking-campaign/816018470

    (ed. Clear Channel has it’s own sordid history, plus major ties to Bush Admin and DOJ investigations re: monopoly, FCC, other violations, bought out by hedge funders including Bain Capital – links can be provided)

    21 Sep 16
    Rouse seemes to have begun the trafficking/child/sex slavery work upon arrival at LV.
    “(LV FBI/Rouse)…was training (LEOs) in child abductions ” https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/law-enforcement-agencies-train-in-boulder-city-to-respond-to-child-abductions/

    21 Sep 2017
    More on trafficking/child/sex slavery campaign – http://www.vindy.com/news/2017/sep/24/fbi-uses-billboards-to-battle-traffickin/

    10 Oct 2016
    “Rouse said he wanted to build a mutually beneficial “bond of trust” between the agency and the community.”

    ““I want to take down the barriers that keep people from cooperating with the FBI,” he said.”
    http://mobile.lasvegassun.com/news/2016/nov/27/head-of-fbi-in-las-vegas-i-want-to-take-down-the-b/

    A DC FBI guy, who specializes in counterespionage/clandestine/fugitive operations, transferred to LV as SAIC to work on trafficking/child/sex slavery. oh, ok

    Trafficking/child/sex slavery, guns, drugs, high-stakes gambling. Shooter has ties to Florida, Texas, Arizona (F & F), and Las Vegas, Nevada – just like Aaron Rouse. Operators of same include ISIS, MS-13, Mexican cartels, and Antifa.

    Full disclosure – bias is not to trust anything FBI, except some of my local guys (Mafia investigations), esp after the Obama reign of terror. And POTUS knows a whole lot more about this than any of these putzs give him credit. imo

    cya

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    • CheetoGuido says:

      and is it true that he is married to Podesta’s daughter?

      Also, has it been released what Paddock’s check out date was? I don’t think I have seen how long he had those rooms reserved.

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      • Harry Lime says:

        I tried to verify this and I don’t think this is true. She is married to a Rouse but when I searched and found family pictures it was definitely a different guy in the photo. You can DuckDuck Megan Rouse family and see for yourself.

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      • maggiemoowho says:

        No, her husband is Gordon

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    • John Doe says:

      I read on Twitter (and tried to post it, but I’m incapable I guess) that Agent Aaron Rouse is married to Meghan Podesta, daughter of…yep…John Podesta.

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    • Tparty says:

      Seems to me Rouse is an FBI spook …

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      • TheWanderingStar says:

        Rouse is a FBI spook – he formerly headed up the Counter Intelligence Division of the FBI prior to being appointed as Special Agent Las Vegas office.

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        • JohnP says:

          Aaron Rouse was a New York State trooper for 25 years. I kinda doubt even Comey could beat that out of him.

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          • G. Combs says:

            25 years??? Gee, I wonder if Aaron Rouse was one of the New York State troopers that beat my elderly father black and blue for failing to use a turn signal while making a lane change at 3AM?

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          • jeans2nd says:

            Nope, but Comey could (and did) transfer Rouse out of DC to Las Vegas to work on crimes for which Rouse had no training or experience.

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    • Steve Daly says:

      1.  Sheriff Lombardo came across as less than credible (shifty eyes) in his press conference even with all the power points.  Sure enough now there is contradiction from the actual security guard who was shot.
      2.  One main conclusion from Lombardo’s original presentation was that there was no unaccounted time for a second individual to sneak out of the suite and go to upper floors owned by Saudis.  Now that’s gone.
      3.  Why was it Sheriff Lombardo who put on the presentation when it was LV Metro PD who responded?  What would LVMPD detectives and chief have to say?
      4.  All physical evidence now under control of the FBI.
      5.  What about video surveillance of the 32nd floor?
      6.  Many gun collectors have more than 3 dozen weapons and do not commit mass murder.
      7.  Why would a rich retiree give it all up?  Look for the Fed investigators to create a dialog.

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  4. Apfelcobbler says:

    Does anyone recall what clues/evidence was originally sited for concluding the shooter had planned to survive? I don’t recall hearing any explanation, just the claim.

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    • G. Combs says:

      Direct from cop. It was brought up in the fox news video above.

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    • Sunshine says:

      I noticed in the videos, just before the shooting started, a helicopter came into view, slowly headed toward and very near the Mandalay, it came very close, made a slow U-turn and the shooting started no later than 30 seconds after. Nobody spoke of this helicopter. You can see it very clearly in a few videos but one video in particular shows it at a higher angle.

      He was probably led to believe he would have an escape hatch and would be relocated to a safe place outside of the USA, which I think would be Mexico and probably in cartel-land.

      I am convinced he was part of a gun-running (possibly also drug-running) operation involving the cartels and rogue government elements (think the WALL).

      The behavior of his brother in both interviews reminded me of someone on ‘speedy’ drugs such as cocaine.

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      • Somebody says:

        There are tourist helicopter tours out of Vegas. Some fly over the city, some to the Grand Canyon and some over Hoover Dam. I wouldn’t read too much into the presence of a helicopter at this point. Perhaps the video image can be enhanced enough to identify the helicopter.

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        • Paco Loco says:

          At 10 pm I doubt it was a helicopter sight seeing trip. I hope some one got the tail number.

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          • Sunshine says:

            SORRY. It could be a small aircraft. Since I don’t own a plane, and I had a recent experience with a helicopter late at night, I think I was transposing.
            So sad there is no delete button.

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          • 30_yr_Veteran says:

            Actually a quick check of available companies offering helicopter tours of the LV strip had departures available for a 15-min tour as late as 11 PM.

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          • Sunshine says:

            It was a helicopter. It’s flying too slowly.
            Other people are innocently mentioning it in comments on other websites/YouTubes. I looked at the only video I can find but the best video was filmed from higher up where you can see the roof of the hotel and the helicopter behind and turning away.some 30 seconds before shooting starts. This video, I can no longer find.

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    • mimbler says:

      No clues/evidence cited. The Sheriff just stated it at a press conference.
      He also said Paddock probably had help, based on how difficult the task was. This guy doesn’t seem like a crack investigator to me.
      Until they give evidence to the contrary, I’m not buying this. Everything we’ve seen points to essentially a suicide mission.

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  5. MVW says:

    Takeaway. Lie, lie, lie FBI. False Flag evident in pre-preparation to lie (Rouse in place). Fubar’d by a security check.

    But this False Flag had real people killed so the operation looks more like a 911 in scale with 22,000 at the concert.

    Deep State wants a big juicy $$$War$$$. 22k people would do it.

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    • MVW says:

      Given Las Vegas professional security and Wynn’s interview, I doubt the private security analysis is ignorant of what is behind the shooting.

      Behind what is behind the shooting is the huge mideast / Saudi money both as investment and as income from gambling.

      Trump has direct ties to this information that bypasses the Deep State, the FBI and DOJ.

      Ramifications of this: use as leverage for deals, use for political purposes, or just air out the Septic Swamp.

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  6. Apfelcobbler says:

    Another bizarre development. Perhaps this was covered a few days ago. Why now? The media is uninterested in reporting the basis for the fbi visit, only zeroing in on tragic details of daughter.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/06/john-beilman-nicole-murder-suicide-fbi-search-fairport-rett-syndrome/738874001/

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  7. rainmom says:

    site becoming unreadable…constantly flips to top of page for ads.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      it’s WordPress… and it doesn’t help that there are more than 1.5k comments on this thread. That alone makes WordPress go all wonky

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    • Jmh says:

      Mine will no longer use mobile view through Chrome. Started 2 days ago. If i chose my phones prompt of “would you like to use mobile view” , I get no comments. Tried using Firefox, and it works but is so slow.

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    • Guffman says:

      Agreed – this site is becoming a victim of its own success. It’s very hard to navigate back over comments for reference here when there are well over one thousand (and closer to two thousand) comments already posted. Thus the same things get said over and over – maybe that’s inevitable?

      Perhaps time to look at a new template, where one can navigate easier through comments? for example… have running page numbers so a click can take you directly to specific comment page?

      Just thinking out loud.

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      • Kristin says:

        Guffman : good thinking. It’s become difficult to read over 1000 comments. Or yo ho back during the day to find a certain comment again.

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    • Stinky-Inky says:

      Rainmom–this was happening to me the other day here. Very frustrating. I had to hold my where I wanted to read in the comments with my mouse.

      I think it might have something to do with the kinds of ads being displayed. Suggest viewing on a different browser or clearing cookies and refreshing the page and see if it goes away. Might help.

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  8. G. Combs says:

    NOTES from videos: (Not in order)
    Observed from the short clip.
    Aaron Rouse nods after Sheriff Lombardo says minute changes in time line.
    Door alarm went off down the hall from ?sun room? WTF?

    Unfortunately Rouse is not shown in the longer Fox News video
    1.Cart is show. Dishes and water bottles for two. Cart has cloth over it going down almost to floor. Good for smuggling….?

    2. Door Alarm DID NOT sound on suspects door.

    3. Drilling is into wall next to door maybe for camera maybe for gun. (If going through drywall why wouldn’t you just use a push drill that is quiet?) Security heard drilling (Down the hall over a loud music concert??) Security DID NOT KNOCK.

    4. Security Guard immediately called Security Manager. LEO did not know until met guard in hall of 32nd floor. Security Guard prevented maintenance man from entering hall.

    5. No Note, when pressed Sheriff Lombardo says doesn’t know what numbers mean.

    6. No second shooter, no contacts known for paddock, no info on cell phones/electronics given.

    Last Sheriff Lombardo complains he has noticed in public form Assumptions, statements… Actions of paddock talked about and this “Makes it difficult for us to follow leads.”
    ***************

    So the last indicates they are watching the babble on the internet. WolfMoon made the comment he noticed they actually react to what is being said.

    That brings us to the Bob Powell Video I watched last night on the sound of the shots and the bumpfire combined with a bipod. (I can not comment because I do not know guns)

    I tried to pull it up again only to see Video Removed for youtube policy on harassment and bullying What in Hades???
    That was on Hubby’s machine. On my machine I can not even get that.
    The URL was [https://www.youtube.com//watch?v=1Bw4vvf59Js] but now it redirects.
    What is interesting was the last comment showing on Hubby’s machine which I tried to transcribe:
    Michael Moran
    “…My friend had a party in Mandalay and not a sober person fell against the window and didn’t even move it but within two minutes security was banging on the door, if they sensed a full breach and not just an impact they would’ve responded with the police…”

    ***********
    If an alarm went off when the windows were broken, that would explain the security guard AND maintenance man! It might also explain why that was the last comment before that page was wiped from the internet.

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    • G. Combs says:

      To add:
      I heard NOTHING about the stairwell door being blocked.
      You can drill with a star drill and a hammer like the one shown and actually drill through rock. I did it when collecting samples for a Geology thesis paper.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      If an alarm went off when the windows were broken, that would explain the security guard AND maintenance man!

      now that is a plausible explanation I can buy…. IF it is true that the windows actually have sensors of some kind. It also gives some credence to the fact that the Mandalay Bay does not want knowledge of their security apparatus thrown out into the wild just to explain how Campos ended up on that floor and in Paddock’s suite.

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      • benifranlkin says:

        Maybe he drilled through the windows and then used the hammer to break out the glass.

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        • Sunshine says:

          I agree. I had thought about that. It’s the easiest way to break the window. You don’t have to drill right through and certainly not in full center. Only a few drill holes deep enough around the central point to weaken resistance.

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          • G. Combs says:

            That sound reasonable. If the window has sensors the drilling would set it off triggering a visit from security.

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            • pcmoreland says:

              It is called an ‘open door alarm’ and it is mounted on the emergency exit door to the stairway located right outside the suite Paddock was in. These doors are typically monitored and propping one open will cause an alarm (normally silent) at the security control room. The guard was sent to clear the door and make sure it was shut. Not the window, not the suite door, the emergency exit to the stairway.

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  9. Tparty says:

    Just rematch Ed the Steve Wynn interview in light of this new information. His statement regarding the use of the service elevator (because the main elevators have magnatometers) , by ‘ any public person with being accompanied by security’.

    It’s that last part that hooked me … without security, which we now know may be unarmed. So Paddock may have used the service elevator ‘with’ a security guard … ? Which security guard?

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    • Tparty says:

      Sorry for mistypes. Wynn interview.

      Paraphrasing Wynn… no one from the public would be allowed to use the service elevator without security present.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Original skuttlebutt was that Marilou Danely worked at the Mandalay. (She may actually have worked for another MGM hotel in Reno.) It is quite possible that paddock had help from within the hotel.
        Remember: Hotel Security NEVER TOLD LEOs about a GUN SHOT WOUND and shooting. despite the 6 minutes available before outside shooting started.

        Sundance says:
        “Security guard shot (at 9:59pm CST) prior to the mass shooting of the crowd at 10:05pm CST.”

        Police Scanner transcript:

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        • Tparty says:

          Exactly, that’s why the cctv of the service elevator is so important as well as WHO accompanied him … on repeated trips. The fact the security guard didn’t immediately tell about his wound could go several directions. Seriousness of wound. Illegal status. .. or something else. Mandalay Bay, who escorted Paddock on the service elevator?

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  10. Look at this Video… Things get just WEIRDER…
    SWAT team enters Tropicana after Las Vegas Strip shooting
    LOOK at these Clowns! A swat team carrying a Back board? Who are the two guys following?
    WHAT is in the Green Case one is holding?

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    • joninmd22 says:

      Love the guy in the yellow shirt. that doesn’t stand out at all.

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      • G. Combs says:

        He maybe EMT The rest are in uniform.

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        • joninmd22 says:

          Nope. He’s front left with a carbine. Probably was off duty SWAT and tossed on a vest.

          You see but do not observe, Watson.

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          • G. Combs says:

            Unfortunately I can’t even see. Blasted old computer crashes if I try to run a video so all I get is a picture, at most unless I use hubby’s machine.

            He is carrying the stretcher too (I think) so he might also be EMT too.
            >>>>>>>>
            According to skuttlebutt the SWAT team was SOOOooo late getting to the Mandalay, because they had to group up.

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      • Eskyman says:

        That yellow shirt guy has his finger on the trigger of his submachine gun, and he’s covering people as he strolls along.

        If I were one of the people he pointed his gun at, I’d be angry. He doesn’t appear to be trained, he seems like a clown with a gun that he shouldn’t be allowed to carry. Trained personnel don’t put their fingers on the trigger until they’re about to shoot, and they don’t point their guns at people unless they have reason to believe that they may be dangerous.

        I’m glad he didn’t accidentally shoot someone, this situation is confusing enough already.

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        • joninmd22 says:

          Yup. He sure did. Bearing Arms referenced a study that filmed police officers and showing a large percentage of cops no matter what their level of experience will put their trigger fingers inside the trigger guard under stress.

          It’s why departments should never issue Glocks or similar handguns that don’t have a safety.

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        • joninmd22 says:

          http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-owens-glock-accidents-20150508-story.html

          “The underlying problem with these pistols is a short trigger pull and the lack of an external safety. In real-world encounters, a short trigger pull can be lethal, in part because a significant percentage of law enforcement officers — some experts say as high as 20% — put their finger on the trigger of their weapons when under stress. According to firearms trainers, most officers are completely unaware of their tendency to do this and have a hard time believing it, even when they’re shown video evidence from training exercises.”

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    • G. Combs says:

      A person shot was reported but that was Excalibur. It may have been for someone shot at concert who returned to hotel and then collapsed.

      From Police Scanner

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  11. RobertoJ says:

    Okay,

    I have looked through most of this thread at this point and haven’t seen this video yet, but I thought it interesting and pertinent.

    I understand that the flashes could be something else, but it would have to be something inside the room since we don’t see the same flashes anywhere else on the windows which would be the case if the flashes were caused externally. If this is definitive proof of a second gunman then it explains why there are two distinct echoes heard in other videos. For example,

    I have been trying to find a forensic map of where the victims were hit on the fairgrounds. I think it the distribution of the casualties would go a long way in showing whether or not there were two shooters, since from a lower angle the gun’s range would be reduced I assume.

    The major unanswered questions in mind are why:

    1. Why did Paddock check in under his girlfriend’s name? This does not serve any useful purpose for a man that presumably had no intention of surviving that night.

    2. I don’t understand why anyone would ever need the 23 weapons that Paddock had in his room. And why did he have seemingly high powered scopes on so many of them? I am not an avid gun person, but if your intention is to kill as many people as possible who cares about that level of precision? It also seems to me that with that many weapons part of the plan was having more shooters.

    3. Why did he wait so long to barricade his room if this music festival was his original target?

    4. I read somewhere, and I can’t find the source right now, that he checked in several days before the shooting, but that police can’t account for his whereabouts from the 28th until the very night of the shooting. Is it possible that someone else checked into the hotel room and began stockpiling the weapons and ammo?

    5. Why did the spree only last ten minutes if he had the ammunition to continue firing for much much longer? It seems to me that if his plans were interrupted that he would fire as much as he could in the time that he had and not stopped until forced to. If he managed to kill 58 people in ten minutes then 58 more for the other full hour he had before police stormed his room would be another 300+ fatalities. Unless he had to stop firing in order to cover for his confederate on the lower floor who escaped, but even then why not fight it out with the cops?

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-timeline-revised-20171009-story.html

    6. Was the money he transferred to the Philippines an act of charity towards his girlfriend? Or was it a donation to whatever terrorist group trained him?

    7. Why if ISIS is really the sponsor for this act have they not proven that he was theirs? Is it possible that they are trying to cover for an at large confederate?

    I would love anyone’s answers to these questions.

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    • sundance says:

      When you begin with the ridiculous flashing in the windows part, which has been completely debunked, all other paragraphs get passed over as conspiracy nonsense.

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    • G. Combs says:

      I will put on my Tinfoil hat and give it a try:

      1. Why did Paddock check in under his girlfriend’s name?
      He was using her complimentary room.

      2. The 23 guns suggest a gun buy. It may have been perfectly legal.

      3.” Why did he wait so long to barricade his room if this music festival was his original target?”
      I think this is where the story line starts to stink. See my comment ABOVE about disturbed window setting off alarms.

      4. I do not think so. I think the serial #s trace to Paddock but I have never heard the police say that.

      5. “Why did the spree only last ten minutes if he had the ammunition to continue firing for much much longer?”
      IF the LEO and FBI are serving up refried Bovine Feces, then it is quite possible Paddock was killed by his ‘buddies’ at the end of the firing. The appearance of the Security Guard is what cut the shooting spree short as originally stated. Paddock may have been the only one the Security Guard could ID and the others took off via the stairwell. (Notice how emphasis has lead away from that stairwell…)

      6. The girl friend headed directly to Hong Kong China after her quick visit to the Philippines. Trump is not in good odor with China and China is pals with Pakistan. Marilou’s sister is married to a Pakistani.

      7. I am inclined to believe the Saudis are behind it given the Four Season Hotel.

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  12. Ziiggii says:

    A business in Paddock’s and his ex-wife’s name:

    http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=xXrsumJXjK5n%2f5J3J7zasA%3d%3d

    but the real interesting on is this:
    https://www.nevada-register.com/115457-paradise-ranch-22-llc

    If you go down you will note that there are listing for all the other 21 Paradise Ranch, LLC’s and they all have the same registering agent info:
    INCORP SERVICES, INC.
    3773 HOWARD HUGHES PKWY STE 500S
    LAS VEGAS, NV 89169-6014
    Agent Type: Commercial Registered Agent – Corporation
    Jurisdiction: NEVADA
    Status: Active

    if you try to look up INCORP Services, INC on that same navada-register site it gives a server error (error 500). [I tried multiple browsers and multiple machines – all the same]

    I have no idea if this means anything – just found it all a bit odd.

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  13. RobertoJ says:

    Another piece of interesting evidence:

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/national-international/Las-Vegas-Mandalay-Bay-Casino-Incident-Police-448994423.html

    This was posted the day of the shooting and gives a much lower location for the shooter’s nest than is reported later:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4944234/Two-23-rifles-inside-Stephen-Paddock-s-room.html

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  14. Harry Lime says:

    I don’t think this footage has been posted here before…first time I’ve seen it. It’s short but interesting.

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    • Harry Lime says:

      I don’t place much importance on the movement of the fence. It could have been anything causing that…thrown object or a person pressing against it. It’s just more video of the gunshots to be examined.

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    • georgiafl says:

      That does NOT sound like long distance shots.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      That looks like shots hitting that fence. Did they come from the strange towers that you can see in the background?

      Also, those are not auto fire, they are single shots. There are also what appear to be bullet holes in that fence fabric.

      Possible that the material is being hit from the Mandalay and it is just a freak of dynamics that cause the material to warp inwards instead of out at first.

      But, another piece of the puzzle to add to the collection.

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      • Tparty says:

        Those looked like range shots which took some time, maybe half second, to hit that fabric fence. The fence returned to its natural windblown state after the shot.

        I think this video is important as the beginning clip may document the beginning of the event. I heard rapid fire after that.

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    • Michael says:

      Run it at .25 speed and it looks like elbows.

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    • mikeydoo says:

      Wouldn’t there be a hole in the fabric if it were a bullet?

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    • Ziiggii says:

      Officer Tim Broadway with the Reno Police Department said the suspect or suspects broke into the home through the front door over the weekend, noting he was not sure how exactly the suspects gained entry.

      OK, first off that explains why FBI was back over there on Sunday searching – again! Also, WTH, why was that location not under protection or surveillance? They also state:

      Broadway said officers were not aware of anything that was taken or whether there were any damages. There are no suspects at this time.

      SMH SMH SMH

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  15. Sandra-VA says:

    He used the FREIGHT ELEVATORS!

    “Law enforcement sources told CBS News that Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock is believed to have used the freight elevator at the Mandalay Bay hotel casino in the days leading up to last week’s deadly attack.

    It wasn’t clear what Paddock used the freight elevator for or how often he used it.”

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    • keeler says:

      If true, it would appear Steve Wynn did say more than he was supposed and his interview reveals a lot about what might be going on behind the scenes. Even before this new report, it was somewhat obvious he was essentially saying “My facilities have adequate security SOPs to prevent this type of attack. Mandalay did not.”

      Wynn would have to know certain details from private briefings with LEOs.

      -Someone had to tell him about the service/freight elevators.
      -Someone had to discuss with him the length of time that Manadaly didn’t enter the shooter’s room due to the DND sign. Else, why would he bring it up? He even refers to it as “the scenario we are aware of” ie the details of the attack and the shooter’s “profile”.

      From this, we then know that Wynn has either talked with the Mandalay management directly and/or with LEOs about specifics of the attack. This suggests that LEOs and LV casino management have been discussing and sharing details of the attack, probably in order to plug exposed security holes (such as freight elevator access) and play CYA when the inevitable lawsuits hit the courts.

      This may explain some of the delay and/or misdirection about details of the attack, LEO agitation over leaks, and the shut down of any press until Friday.

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    • Jmh says:

      “believed” to have used.

      1. accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of.
      “the superintendent believed Lancaster’s story”
      synonyms: be convinced by, trust, have confidence in, consider honest, consider truthful More
      2.
      hold (something) as an opinion; think or suppose.
      “I believe we’ve already met”
      synonyms: think, be of the opinion that, have an idea that, imagine, suspect, suppose, assume, presume, take it, conjecture, surmise, conclude, deduce, understand, be given to understand, gather, fancy, guess, dare say; More

      Could always change in a few days.

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  16. Paco Loco says:

    There are MB Hotel employees that are finally starting to talk. The freight elevator is how he got his arsenal up to his room on 32.

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    • Paco Loco says:

      I’ve stayed at the MB and the elevators are always busy and crowded. Using the freight elevator allowed him privacy and cover.

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    • Regina says:

      there’s the first confirmation of Wynn’s comment

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      • mimbler says:

        Yes, I’ll bet the LV casino crowd is a pretty tight group and he had heard the scuttlebutt about what happened.

        IMO, he looked like he was saying something he thought to be relatively common knowledge, and backed off when the reporter indicated it was new info.

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    • Sunshine says:

      I’ve also taken a freight elevator in a hotel throughout the many years, a few times – certainly. Late in the evening when loads of people are waiting for the elevators after dancing or whatever, no staff around.

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    • G. Combs says:

      “There are MB Hotel employees….” At first glance I read that as Muslim Brotherhood hotel employees… I am getting punch drunk on gingerale.

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  17. POP says:

    If…
    If there was more than one perp and he escaped up to Saudi land and much later exited down, the theoretical extra perp(s) still can’t exit the Four Seasons without encountering a horde of cctv cameras. If there are more perps they are on camera, impossible for them to avoid that……Sheriff.

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  18. Blue Moon says:

    My biggest question is WHY and WHO released a picture of a dead person.

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  19. Regina says:

    I thought there weren’t going to be any more updates until Friday? First we have CBS reporting that he used the service elevator, now CNN is saying they have upcoming details about how the police knew Paddock planned to get away??
    psyop on every side – just nuts

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    • KBR says:

      I recall reading here that there was a hotel-uniform in the room (like a bellhop.)

      That was earlier when they thought maybe he planned to use that for his getaway.

      But maybe he had already been using it so he could use the service elevator without having to have a security guard accompany him. Also a bellhop with a rolling cart full of all sorts and sizes of “luggage” would not get as much scrutiny as a customer?

      Same “bellhop” uniform might make him be overlooked now while trying to find him going back and forth the days before, during the examination of the hotel videos.

      Regarding the door he sealed shut: was it the police/swat he hoped to keep out or someone else or both?

      Regarding the open stairwell: if the service elevator was full of swat, stairs choice two if he thought of escape and vice versa?

      Did those stairs and/or that service elevator go all the way up to the other hotel owned by Saudi Prince?

      Nothing is being said by sherriff or cops or newsreports about the possibility that some of the activity (moving guns in, possible accomplices using a route through it) might have taken place via passage through that Saudi-prince owned hotel which somebody said is physically linked to the Mandalay Bay: possibly due to “international relations?”

      Or was that passage from Mandaly Bay to another hotel even true? And if it is true, which hotel’s uniform was the bellhop’s uniform in the room?

      Finally, do most of you believe he shot himself?

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      • G. Combs says:

        The Four Seasons Hotel is located on floors 35 to 39 of the Mandalay Bay BUILDING. Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and Bill Gates own the hotel. (wwwDOT)kingdom.com.sa/khc-bill-gates-cascade-jointly-own-four-seasons-prince-alwaleed-meets-four-seasons-cascade-management-in-new-york

        Al-Waleed and President Trump were tossing twitter bombs at each other during the campaign.

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        • G. Combs says:

          “…Finally, do most of you believe he shot himself?”

          No, that was discussed earlier and some think he took a gut shot and bled through the mouth.

          It is interesting that what was released is a photo of his head and upper shoulders (with some blood on chest) And a shot of his feet (with a biped OVER his legs) but NO SHOT of his gut area….

          I am squeamish, but the quick look I took seems to agree. If he shot himself in the mouth shouldn’t there be an exit wound out the top of his head and lots of blood and grey matter?

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          • CurlyDave says:

            There is not necessarily an exit wound from a close range shot. I have shot wild (actually feral) boar, 200-250 lbs. in CA. Pretty close to man-sized. A 180 grain soft point .308 in the head from 10-15 feet does not exit. The entire skull is broken into small fragments and it feels quite crunchy afterward, but no exit.

            As far as the pictures go, the blood around the mouth looks like a lung shot to me. My experience there is with many deer. Shot in the lung there is bright red blood which appears around the mouth, having come up the airway. The blood on his shirt is also typical. Not showing any lower than the pictures I have seen means there may well have been a lung shot and they are just not showing the entrance wound.

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  20. Regina says:

    CNN reporting that they found tracer rounds and incendiary rounds in the room – also saying that incendiary rounds were found near the fuel tanks
    Survival equipment was found in room – some sort of breathing apparatus (gas mask?) and protective wear

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  21. olderglory says:

    If reports are true that local LE spotted two cameras on a room service cart on 32 floor @10:55 pm, my question is, who was watching who? Room service carts come and go, unless someone directs them to stay put.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-shooting-timeline/index.html

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  22. Paco Loco says:

    The metal door to the stairwaywas screwed closed by Paddock. There could be no escape via the stairs up to to 34. SWAT had to crow bar the stairwell door open on 32 to get in. So escape to the Four Seasons seems implausible via the stairwell.

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    • JohnP says:

      Do you have a link for that information?

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    • benifranlkin says:

      Look at the diagrams of the rooms above. Paddock would have to be in the corridor right next to his suite room door to be bolting that door to the stairwell shut. Maybe he left his suite door slightly ajar as he ducked inside it to lure the guard in…so he could shoot him? …but how could he miss? and was it really 200 rounds? That would certainly have heralded the troops a lot sooner. Can’t figure it out right now.

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  23. Saveedra says:

    Why would Paddock been careless & leave a suite door ajar? That makes no sense.

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  24. CommonSenseConservativeFL says:

    Haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but I travel a fair amount. Something didn’t sit right with the “door was left ajar” statement. Almost every hotel I have been in has self-closing doors, I believe for fire code but also for security. I just spent some time on MB website taking virtual tours of their suites, all the doors have massive self-closing mechanisms on them. How then does one leave the door ajar for someone to poke their head in? If this has been discussed before I apologize for a duplicate post.

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    • mimbler says:

      It would have to be propped open, not accidentally left ajar. Like so much about this, that doesn’t make sense with the info we have so far,

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    • Lyn says:

      If released from a wide open position, the door will have enough momentum to self-close. However, if you slowly close the door and stop it just before it reaches the latch, the self closing hinge won’t have enough momentum to close the door and the door will remain ajar.

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      • CommonSenseConservativeFL says:

        Which corresponds to my post and Mimbler’s response that it takes a deliberate action with intent, to facilitate that. Doesn’t match with the rest of his actions with how much care he was taking towards secrecy and privacy.

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        • G. Combs says:

          There are a heck of a lot of inconsistances.

          1. CENSORSHIP:We know the internet is being scrubbed and censored. The Utube I watched yesterday was informative and not scary. No offensive language. Nothing but different types of fire arm demos and replaying the tape of the 11 second burst overlayed by the 1 sec bursts so you could compare sounds yourself. Yet it was scrubbed with a notice : Video Removed for youtube policy on harassment and bullying and now there is not even that! this was within 12 hours of showing up in the comments here.
          Reddit and even 4Chan get whole threads pulled. Twitter shadow bans or outright bans.

          2. Sheriff Lombardo in the last part of his talk on Fox complains he has noticed in public form Assumptions, Statements… Actions of Paddock talked about and this “Makes it difficult for us to follow leads.” So the last indicates they are watching the babble on the internet. WolfMoon made the comment he noticed they actually react to what is being said.= and then put out Dis-info to counter ideas that get too close to the truth.

          EXAMPLES:
          Talk turns to money and the sale or shorting of stock by Murren and Soros before it all went down and we get countered with news of Paddocks financials.

          Talk of Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and Bill Gates ownership of Four Seasons sitting on top of the Mandalay Bay a few floors away from the shooting site and we get Paddock barricaded the stairway door with screws and the freight elevator rabbit is loosed for us to chase.

          The Utubes and Police scanner (https://i0.wp.com/i.4cdn.org/pol/1507227107927.jpg) show there was more than one shooter, yet that is refuted.
          …..
          Now we have an altered time line and a SLIGHTLY wounded security guard who sat in the hall for what? 20 to 30 minutes? https://i1.wp.com/i.4cdn.org/pol/1507227066401.jpg

          What a mess.

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    • G. Combs says:

      Self-closing mechanisms on doors is one of the reasons I think breaking through the window was probably what alerted Security and not an open door. Remember they also sent up a maintenance man who according to the Fox News video was prevented from entering the hall by the wounded security guard.

      A comment on a Bob Powell Video that was removed. The URL was [https://www.youtube.com//watch?v=1Bw4vvf59Js] but now it redirects.
      This seems to be the last comment which I tried to transcribe:
      Michael Moran
      “…My friend had a party in Mandalay and not a sober person fell against the window and didn’t even move it but within two minutes security was banging on the door, if they sensed a full breach and not just an impact they would’ve responded with the police…”
      Perhaps not with cops, but maybe a maintenance man to repair the damage and make sure the room was safe.

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  25. nimrodman says:

    Any other events scheduled after the country-music fest?

    I’ve been browsing to answer this question.
    Several ticketing sites say No future shows

    But that could be because they’ve all been updated and all events for the Las Vegas Village venue have been scrubbed for now. One article questions whether it’ll even re-open at all.

    I’ve tried dropping these 3 links into Wayback internet archive, and it typically shows a couple of prior page captures, but when I click on them I get an error message that it “can’t fulfill request right now” or similar.

    So – if anyone is in Vegas and has access to printed tourist guides or entertainment brochures, see if you can look up a Las Vegas Village advert or look for any single events listing that as venue.

    The most important timeframe would be October, to see if any events were scheduled close after the Route 91 fest. October entertainment guides would have been printed weeks ago and should list the Route 91 fest and perhaps any later events in October and November, for example.

    I HAVE located one event on its own page that lists Las Vegas Village as venue, the Las Vegas Marathon scheduled for Nov 11-12, but that’s too far in the future to be germane to the shooting preparations. I’ll give a link to marathon music shows in next comment.

    Here are a couple ticketing pages I’ve referred to, maybe someone else might have better luck with them in Wayback or some other internet archive?

    http://www.ticketmaster.com/Las-Vegas-Village-tickets-Las-Vegas/venue/376872
    https://www.songkick.com/venues/2713533-las-vegas-village
    https://www.stubhub.com/las-vegas-village-tickets/venue/443709/

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  26. kittycat77 says:

    I may get attacked for saying this, and I’m just throwing it out there now, what if Campos was involved in some way? I know he was shot in the leg, and if the guy wanted to kill him, I’m sure he would have. There is so much off about all of this.

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    • G. Combs says:

      kittycat77,
      I have been thinking the same.

      Places Tinfoil hat firmly on head….
      I didn’t keep a record but IIRC, the wound was not bad enough to have the bullet removed immediately. (WEIRD) The guy also stayed in the hallway for close to a 1/2 hour if my figuring is correct. (WEIRD) He kept the maintenance man from entering, so acted as a ‘guard’ to the elevators INSTEAD of getting first aid after an armed guard relieved him. (WEIRD) What if HE is the one who put the screws in the emergency stairway door after others escaped and not Paddock who was long dead by then?

      OK, here is a report of his injuries:
      “[…]Despite being wounded, Campos kept working alongside Las Vegas police, who rushed the 32nd floor.

      “His bravery was amazing because he remained with our officers, providing them the key pass to access the door, and continued to help them clear rooms until our officers demanded he seek medical attention,” Lombardo said…..

      Campos is expected to undergo surgery to remove the bullet, Hickey said.[…]” —
      http://www.businessinsider.com/mandalay-bay-security-guard-jesus-campos-distracting-las-vegas-shooter-2017-10

      “[…]He still has the bullet in his leg – for now. At the moment, Jesus is carrying a reminder of the horrific night, both in his heart and in his body. The bullet that Stephen fired at the security guard is still in Jesus’s leg, according to Dave Hickey, the president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire professionals of America. He will have to undergo surgery to have it removed at a later date. Thankfully, he was well enough to leave the hospital shortly after the shooting.”http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/10/05/who-is-jesus-campos-security-guard-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock/

      So it looks like he was mobile enough.
      ******************

      IF as reported the hall was shot up with ~200 bullets, the cameras could have been taken out. Also there has been no footage of Paddock in the hotel and we do not know if the security tapes magically got wiped, ‘you know like with a cloth’
      Remove Tinfoil hat.

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      • G. Combs says:

        To add, Campos WAS NOT ARMED and yet stays in the hall for 20 to 30 minutes with a guy with a munitions store on the other end who is shooting up the world.

        What if after being shot, Campos is given an offer he can’t refuse and helps cover for the murders in return for his life and $$$ (and the life of his family.)

        NOT killing Campos, when he was unarmed really really sends up the red flags.

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  27. jeans2nd says:

    Interesting article describing how the FBI “recruits” potential “informants.”
    The subject tells more of his story in the comments; gives his twitter addy.
    Guy is guilty, imo, but did not deserve treatment given him by the FBI (islamophobiaaaaaaaa!). imo
    https://theintercept.com/2017/10/10/recordings-capture-brutal-fbi-tactics-to-recruit-potential-informant/

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    • nimrodman says:

      ah, geez, jeans – I almost smacked my monitor screen with a rolled-up dish towel …

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      • mimbler says:

        Yep, made me look too!

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      • G. Combs says:

        I was getting ready to go after it with a Kleenex. 😁
        …..
        I remember some years ago the poor girl who was brutally murdered after they convinced her to turn informant.

        Speaking of which, after being shot, I wonder if Jesus Campos was given an ‘offer he could not refuse’ by the murderer[s]

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    • Plain Jane says:

      jeans2nd,
      I just scrolled down to your post and grabbed a napkin from the table by the computer. I couldn’t figure out what the heck kind of bug on my monitor was going around in a figure 8. I thought a strange looking baby spider was trying to winter in our house. LOL.

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  28. I haven’t been keeping up here so I’ve no idea if this video has been already shared

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    • G. Combs says:

      Yes, several times. Some consider it questionable.

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    • pcmoreland says:

      This only works if you can be sure that you have captured the sound of the last round. That round could have hit something else and not have been recorded, or were the same caliber and grain weight per round. The other 250 yrd locations he notices are not from a height that would have mimicked the pavement impact sounds. AmPm is a single story building with obstructions between it and the venue, the Oasis Apartments are two story, but one would think a resident would have complained of the noise. Mound might not be there, but is too low at any rate, again, with obstructions.

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  29. Mike says:

    My cousin helped build the Mandalay Bay, he was there for the original construction and in 2005 for the remodel. He stated there are no alarms on the stairwell doors. He has also been in that suite many times, and he did not believe what they were saying, and or showing. As far as Paddock complaining of noise, not possible he says. The rooms are already outfitted with custom tuned Bose systems that cannot be heard by neighbors to that room. Sound deadening throughout these suites, including the 11.75″ thick concrete flooring. Even the concrete was poured in a specific manner to eliminate sound. Hard, then a softer concrete, 1″ foam barrier than back to soft and then hard. 1″ thick drywall on the walls with more insulation. Walls are all 8″ thick in that particular suite.

    It was an interesting conversation. His contractor buddies are now talking amongst themselves and are not buying any of this. These are the guys that built this hotel and do regular work there making repairs, etc.

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  30. Don Rutter says:

    Mandalay was checked for employee roster and there was no Jesus Campos listed working at The Mandalay bay that night.

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