China Requests U.S. To Respect Pakistan’s Security Concerns – Accept the Excuses from Pakistan…

China is the #1 investor in Pakistan, and by extension of President Trump’s strategic decision to put Pakistan in the spotlight for supporting extremist elements within Afghanistan, China is also in the geopolitical spotlight. It’s a brilliant play by President Trump and Secretary Tillerson.

If there was no symbiosis between China and Pakistan, there would be no reason for China to have an opinion. However, understanding the nature of how their geopolitical ally has been called out, China is now exposed, and responds by trying to get the burden of responsibility removed from Pakistan.

BEIJING (Reuters) – The United States must value Pakistan’s role in Afghanistan and respect its security concerns, China’s top diplomat Yang Jiechi told U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in a phone call, according to Chinese state media.

China’s Foreign Ministry defended its ally Pakistan earlier this week after President Donald Trump said the United States could no longer be silent about militants using safe havens on Pakistani soil. (read more)

The Chinese regime is essentially defending Pakistan by saying the U.S. must accept that Pakistan has no choice except to be willfully blind to the cross-border Islamic extremism.  Team USA is saying no to this acceptance.

President Trump has already made the case that all nations who do not support terrorism and extremism must “drive out” the underlying hate and ideologues who espouse it.

There’s no downside to Pakistan being directly linked to Afghanistan/Taliban, simply because Pakistan is directly FACTUALLY linked to Afghanistan/Taliban. Additionally, inherent in the Trump Doctrine of economics and trade used to secure national security objectives, there are going to be ‘winners’ and ‘losers’; ‘allies’ and ‘adversaries’.

In the BIG geopolitical picture people get nervous because Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Fair enough. However, Pakistan’s #1 economic ally is China. China has massive investments in Pakistan. China is attached to Pakistan. Both China and Pakistan have nuclear weapons. Dealing with China and Pakistan is congruent.

Meanwhile, India has nuclear weapons. Afghanistan’s #1 economic ally is India. India has massive investments in Afghanistan. India is attached to Afghanistan. India has nuclear weapons. President Trump is positioning India as a favored nation to the United States; and Trump is also accepting China and Pakistan are connected.

India, is massive economic leverage. India is nice; Pakistan – notsomuch.

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142 Responses to China Requests U.S. To Respect Pakistan’s Security Concerns – Accept the Excuses from Pakistan…

    • Minnie says:

      Excellent 👍

      I always appreciate Sundance’s perspective and analysis and this particular post reminds me of one of my favorite board games as a youngster – Risk (another was Stratego).

      I may need to pull them out of the dusty basement.

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    • joshua says:

      I think that Afghanistan supplies the majority of Heroin to China from the Poppy Fields….duh….China then sells the Heroin on the black and open markets…duh….

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      • Jedi9 says:

        Its too bad that China can’t be called on it publicly, then i guess that is a wild card to be used should China decide to not cooperate.

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        • suejeanne1 says:

          I am not a professor at the War College nor did I stay at the Holiday Inn Express . . . but it is my theory that the PRC plans to use Pakistan as a corridor to control of the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Peninsula – then they also have plans for troops positioned in North Africa swing over from the other side, the good old pincer move . . . this is my own “conspiracy theory” ever since reading about 10,000 Chinese troops helping to protect oil fields in the Sudan as well as the curious case of a Chinese soldier being treated back in the PRC for hemorraghic fever, something typically contracted in Africa and now more recently known as Ebola.

          Couldn’t they take a few pages out of Hitler’s playbook . . . they do need lebensraum and the African continent would provide plenty of that, along with all of the natural resources, along with controlling the Arabian Peninsula as well . . .

          use the hatred and terror of Islamic jihadists to wreak havoc in places where you want to create a vacuum, an absence of American eyes and ears in regions where there had been thriving business, tourism – now the US State Dept. has to warn people out of this place or that place and no one knows what in the hell is happening until it is too late.

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          • Jenny R. says:

            You are likely correct: the One Belt strategy (which opens up the ME, Europe, and Africa as well as southeast Asia) depends upon China getting some landbased leverage…Pakistan is their conduit for that. Also, Pakistan plays a proxy role in their ongoing struggles with India (see above).
            In short, China would like to have Pakistan as their “new NK”. This is perhaps a foolish strategy on their part that will likely turn around to bite them in the future even harder than now. Pakistan could easily turn on them and likely will when the timing is right.
            My aunt was correct: China will win the long game if it remembers to remain China and seeks to become prosperous in harmony with the rest of the world — and that does not involve glorious communist palaces and troop parades. It would appear as though the Chinese government thinks otherwise…they may be falling into a trap of their own design.

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      • mike says:

        In the Philippines the flood of meth is Chinese, some manufactured offshore in (fishing?) ships.

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      • melski says:

        I thought the Clinton’s had the Afghan heroin trade all locked up? I guess just to Europe and the U.S.

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      • The Demon Slick says:

        When you say “China”, do you mean “CIA”?

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  1. John says:

    Sundance, are you planning in the very near future to do a more elaborate article on “the big ugly” where you discuss in more detail what it means, what moves Trump will make, what counter measures the swamp will use, how it will all shake out, etc…? Will there be mass arrests by trump, etc…? Folks want a little more clarity on what the BU is going to entail.

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  2. El Torito says:

    Still not tired of China LOSING.

    Liked by 7 people

  3. Neither Trump, nor his cabinet, nor his key staff — not one of them — strike me as the type to accept excuses over results.

    Just saying

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    • jmclever says:

      Totally agree with you kev!
      Excuses are used by losers looking to absolve themselves of responsibility. Successful people of all stripes always own failures and seek to learn and never repeat them. Trump and his cabinet full of winners will never make nor accept excuses.

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  4. Lunatic Fringe, Phd. [undocumented] says:

    It sure would be easier to get Afghanistan on their feet if they weren’t land locked. Step one is Afghanistan march straight south to the Arabian Sea and take over everything west of 66 degrees.

    And of course we are going to need India’s technological expertise with running that new port so India go ahead and march West until you hit 28 degrees N 66 degrees E. Now help your new neighbor, Afghanistan.

    That should all take about a week. Let’s talk in 8 days. Maybe then Pakistan will feel a little bit more like TAKING THREATS SERIOUSLY.

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  5. joshua says:

    same argument….China is attached to North Korea as well…just like Pakistan to Afghanistan….so by that token, China would defend and allow North Korea to do anything it wanted to the US interests and that of others?

    Once again, the Chinese are EXPOSED as hypocrites.

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    • chojun says:

      Yes this exactly. China has a tendency to insulate themselves from potential (and notably capitalist) threats by the use of puppet states.

      Note how their puppet states are all nuclear powers…

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    • Aguila2011 says:

      Hypocrites not so much. Really, don’t you think we do the same thing? The major difference is they use friends in low places to do their bidding. And until now, it has worked! With groups like the UN and EU and such, our politicians have kow towed to their bluffs and given away the store (for a small piece of the action, of course). What Trump is doing is turning this historical BS on it’s head and calling the bluff in every case.

      MAGA!

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  6. History Teaches says:

    There could be big changes in China’s leadership configuration soon. They have a lot of internal as well as external problems and issues to deal with. A more militant stance is one of the eventual possibilities. Never take your eye on their worldwide machinations. They have enormous infrastructure and population issues to deal with and do not compromise or defer willingly.

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2284672-chinas-leadership-structure-could-change-at-fall-congress-2/

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    • Minnie says:

      And an over abundance of young men due to one-child-per family rule.

      Was that by design for other reasons?

      How messed up is that?!?

      Liked by 5 people

      • Donna in Oregon says:

        Actually, it’s ironic how females that were not valued at all in old China are now valuable due to a shortage. In Old China, the elderly would be taken care of by their children, but the boys aren’t so keen to take care of Mom and Pop.

        Supply and demand. Even Communists can learn Capitalism. snicker….

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        The Johnny Appleseed of birth control and abortion, Margaret Sanger, was in China in the early 1920s. She, Communist Agnes Smedley, and other foreign interlopers spread their influence in China, as well as other places, and convinced many in China that it would be economically advantageous to have a lower population.

        China has long had firm sex roles for men and women, as has most of mankind since time immemorial. Nothing new. When China decided, from the top-down, to reduce the population, they did this by birth control and abortion. It just so happens that when the governments of these Asian nations leaned, and lean, on families to have fewer kids, the families make the judgment, for various reasons, that a son HAS to be in the mix of kids.

        The reasons for desiring a son, versus a daughter, are obvious, but mainly fall into: property inheritance, and manual labor.

        At the extreme, of having only one child, daughters will be aborted or set out for infant-neglect death until a son is born. It is not that China disfavors females, it is that the West pressured China, and other places, to reduce their population, and when given that pressure, they responded by “male preference.”

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        • Aguila2011 says:

          Oh Wise Grasshopper, you are so wrong! “It is not that China disfavors females …” and then you go on to blame the West. They did not need Margaret Sanger to tell them the facts of population growth. I am sure they could count and do forward projections by themselves. The culture favors men for many reasons as girls/women are token play things among the elites. So they make the rules. And the peasants must comply. Do you think the peasants flip a coin “Keep – No Keep” for a born child? No, it is based on the sex. Boy – Keep. Girl – No Keep. In their culture boys have more inherent value. I am not saying I agree with them. I am just explaining what happened.

          The consequence is a population that is male heavy and when young men reach sexual peak and want a partner or marriage, there are not enough women to go around. Hence, they import their women from other countries, or go abroad looking, at least those who can afford to do so. The rest can be called into service as lots of testosterone fulled guys with nothing to do will willingly go for a military job that provides direction and purpose and three squares a day will jump at the chance. And that is where the ruling party gets the idea of starting some actions here and there around the world. The problem then becomes how to pay for it.

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      • JoAnn Leichliter says:

        Anyone with half a brain could see this coming way back when the “one child” policy was instituted. Not only do they not have enough women, but those they do have are often less interested in marriage and family, due to work and education opportunities. As Mark Steyn pointed out a few years ago, they will be old before they’re rich (insufficient reproduction), and that’s not good…

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  7. Donna in Oregon says:

    Ah, this is so ‘A’ Team. Genius. Going to save blood and treasure. At last we have a President with solutions. Amen!

    Liked by 3 people

  8. fleporeblog says:

    Beautifully said SD!

    From the article linked above:

    Foreign Minister Wang Yi met Pakistani Foreign Secretary Tehmina Janjua in Beijing on Tuesday, according to a statement on Thursday. He praised Pakistan’s efforts to combat extremism and to secure the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a development initiative central to President Xi Jinping’s global Belt and Road development plan.

    “Given the current complicated and changing international and regional situation, the strategic significance of China-Pakistan relations is even more prominent,” Wang said.

    Our President is destroying China and their One Belt, One Road initiative everywhere around the world. China 🇨🇳 is beyond scared 😳 out of their mind. NAFTA, whether it survives or is killed by our President will put a world of hurt 😭 into China’s economy. The 301s is threatening their major surplus in trade with us. Our President’s stance concerning Pakistan 🇵🇰 is going to destroy their dream takeover of the ME and Africa.

    This is absolutely fascinating to watch as it transpires each and everyday.

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  9. Steve in Lewes says:

    Before TRex hung up he said:
    “Mr. Yang Jiechi, before you go, please hold the whine with that order of Moo goo gai pan, and please don’t forget the fortune cookies. The US feels rucky today”!

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  10. It’s just sad that so many in this country are so busy hating our President that they are missing out on this once in a lifetime unfolding of fascinating,historic events. They exist in the vaccum of the controlled media narrative engineers, convinced that they are persistently resisting.
    For once WE are on offense and the real offenders are on defense. The President calmly moves his chess pieces, unaffected by the media running around with their aprons over their heads. I thank God I’m living to see this.

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    • MIKE says:

      Like. I try to explain to them this historical era we are right smack in the middle of but most will have none of it. The poor bastids are stuck on the manufactured hate of our President, who really doesn’t need this job. “he donates his salary, pays himself $1.00 annually, donates the rest!”, I say. – It doesn’t matter or sink in to them. Hate trumps reasoning, every time. And libs love to hate. I also have a tough time verbalizing the good things about our President that I learn here. If they are basically good and decent, I’ll direct them here. But I don’t think any of them have followed up on my suggestion. Like we used to say, “your loss”.

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    • piper567 says:

      sixblade…
      Just keep focusing on your second paragraph, and do not be too concerned about the vacuum you describe.
      Much of the blindness is willful. The remainder, imo, will become impotent.
      Winning !

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  11. Howie says:

    Why in heck do little ole me have to worry bout this? There lies the problem. Not a girl but….

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  12. Bruce says:

    If there had been a leader in the white house 15 years ago and then 8 years ago, we would have left Afghanistan long ago. But we had two Presidents in a rows with no b*lls. There is just no other way to put it.

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  13. SpanglishKC says:

    A simpler explantion…

    $ makes the 🌎 Go round

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  14. All Too Much says:

    24 AUGUST 2017 • 8:32PM
    Qatar has defied Saudi Arabia by strengthening its diplomatic ties with Iran – rather than cutting them back as Saudi Arabia and its allies have demanded.

    Saudi Arabia and three other Arab states have been blockading Qatar since early June and have demanded that Qatar curb its ties with Iran, as well as shut down its al-Jazeera television network and expel extremists from its territory.

    Rather than give in to the blockading countries’ demands, Qatar announced on Thursday that it was restoring full diplomatic relations with Iran and sending its ambassador back to Tehran for the first time since 2016.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/qatar-defies-saudi-arabia-restoring-diplomatic-ties-iran/

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  15. MaineCoon says:

    Yoo-hoo! China! Yoo-hoo!

    Hey, you’re in bad standing. You know….fat boy and that trade stuff.

    You don’t have a leg to stand on to be asking any favor for Pakistan. In fact you just dropped a notch yourself. Bad move.

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  16. Watcher says:

    India borders Pakistan and China. I think the Chinese have their eye on the Afghanistan minerals and the greedy Pakis are the useful idiots along with their deep hate for India. The Indian Muslim population is soon to overtake Pakistan and this may influence Pakistani extreme Muslim culture.
    The gulf countries have educated their own citizens and depend less on Paki labor, less money.
    Pakistan big exports are soccer balls and terrorists. Indian future exports threatened China.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/31/worlds-muslim-population-more-widespread-than-you-might-think/

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  17. Jeff C-C says:

    China and India are nearly at blows right now. Trump is telling India that we are on their side. Sounds like another brilliant move. Trump has a way of building deep loyalty among our true allies.

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    • rf121 says:

      So you are saying that if the country with the largest population in the world attacks the country with the second largest population that we are going to war. Really?

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    • Homesteader says:

      Seems like people from India actually stick around and blend into our multi-ethnic culture and make great citizens. Governor Bobby Jindal (former of Louisiana) is a fine example.

      As much I personally like Chinese people they only seem to be here for the ride. Most stay completely to themselves, make few non-Chinese friends, do not own anything but shared rental housing, save their money to vacation in the big cities where they stay with other Chinese who live in rentals where they spend their savings on Chinese made American clothing and play food and candy games on their Chinese made iPhones.

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      • DebbieUK says:

        The UK Indian population has settled and assimilated well. Sikhs and Hindus don’t have their own political and legal system as Muslims do.They are proud to abide by our laws and contribute to the country.Yes they have their own Temples but they are low key and proud to be British above all else.The practice their culture and religion at home but don’t push it on the rest of us.
        The Muslim population want Sharia courts and everything Halal .The more you give them the more they want.

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      • Beenthere says:

        Like every other immigrant group that arrive here, it takes them 2 or 3 generations to completely assimilate. This latest Chinese wave started in the 1980s much like the Hispanics.

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  18. chojun says:

    I’m willing to bet that Pakistan is another Chinese pseudo-puppet state. I wonder somewhat if Pakistan’s acquisition of nuclear weapons technology is not due in part to Chinese intervention. The communist party in China likes to surround itself with allies that are under it’s control.

    Additionally, perhaps China benefits indirectly from US-pakistani economic aide programs.

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  19. I would NOT want President Trump as US President if I was from ANY other country.
    As it is though…. I DO love my President!

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  20. Alison says:

    I bet President Trump already gave T-Rex his very own Zippo.

    Made in the USA, of course.

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  21. No_to_Globalism says:

    china WANTS the US bogged down in afganistan just like china wants the US bogged down with the Norks.

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  22. Darrell Batiste says:

    Excellent analysis.

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  23. Plato says:

    Hmmm…..
    China regards the US as its greatest competitor and threat.
    US Senators who don’t understand that or disregard it for personal income purposes should not be elected next time.
    Alas, PTrump refuses to tell the US voting population what he has done…… without direct to the people broadcasts, his achievements are rubbish.

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  24. Dana Doran says:

    Reuters using information gained from the Chinese….not from US sources. Hum. I wonder why that is? Remember, Reuters reporting does not favor a successful Trump administration.

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  25. jmclever says:

    Some connections are trying to form in my mind.

    MS-13 puppets/soldiers of Mexican drug cartels, Heroin producing poppies are grown in Mexico, S.E. Asia and Afghanistan

    China fueling drug war against US. See this link http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1915904-china-is-supplying-a-drug-war-against-the-united-states/

    It seems as though we are in another world war where communism is attempting to dominate the globe. They are just being more covert about it this time.

    It would seem as though there is a vested interest for China to keep Islamic terrorism and NAFTA/US open borders alive so that they can dominate through slavery of the people to drugs and fear.

    All this seems like conspiracy theories and I would dismiss it out of hand had we not learned as much as we did in the last year about how dems and liberals label many truth bringers as part of the “vast right-wing conspiracy,” so I’ll just keep this on the shelf for later.

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  26. both China & Pakistan are known liars
    ? – why believe them now . . . I never will in this century . . . POTUS I TRUST completely

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