Recording of Secretary Kerry Admitting President Obama Armed Extremists in Syria – And Now Secretary Tillerson and President Trump are Dealing With Consequences…..

On September 30th 2016 the New York Times quietly released a leaked audio recording of Secretary John Kerry meeting with multiple factions associated within Syria.

The 40-minute discussion took place on the sidelines of a United Nations General Assembly in New York. The meeting took place at the Dutch Mission to the United Nations on Sept. 22nd 2016:

[…]  Kerry’s off-record conversation was apparently with two dozen ‘Syrian civilians’, all from US backed opposition-linked NGO’s in education and medical groups supposedly working in ‘rebel-held’ (aka terrorist-held) areas in Syria.

This opposition conclave also included ‘rescue workers’ which can only be ambassadors from the White Helmets, a pseudo NGO which serves as Washington and London’s primary PR front in pursuit of a “No Fly Zone’ in Syria, and it’s being bankrolled by the US, UK, EU and other coalition states to the tune of well over $100 million (so far). (link)

When you listen to the audio recording (embedded below) it becomes immediately obvious what was going on in 2014, 2015 and 2016 as an outcome of policy from the White House.  In addition, you discover why this jaw-dropping 2016 leak/story was buried by the U.S. media and how it connects to the prior 4 years of perplexing U.S. mid-east policy.

This evidence within this single story would/should forever remove any credibility toward the U.S. foreign policy under President Obama.  It also destroys the credibility of a large number of well known republicans, and explains how the prior action has placed President Trump into a precarious position requiring a careful approach.

The key Secretary Kerry moments are at 02:00, and again at approximately 18:30 forward.

The discussion from 18:30 through to 29:00 are exceptionally revealing and should be listened to by anyone who has wondered what was going on in Syria.  Kerry even makes mention of the “Responsibility to Protect, or R2P” principle:


@18:30 Secretary John Kerry [transcript]:

[…]  “Well, the problem is the Russians do not care about law, and we do.  And, we don’t have a basis -our lawyers tell us- unless we have a U.N. Security Council resolution, which the Russians can veto and Chinese, OR unless we are under attack from the folks there, or unless we are invited in.  Russia was invited in by the legitimate regime, well, it’s illegitimate in our mind, by the regime.  And so, they were invited in and we’re not invited in.”

“We’re flying in airspace there, where they can turn on the air defense and we have a very different scene.  The only reason they’re letting us fly is because we’re going after ISIS.  If we were going after Assad, those air defenses, we’d have to take out all those air defenses, uh, and we don’t have a legal justification, frankly, for doing that unless we stretch it way beyond the law on a humanitarian basis, which some people argue we should – by the way.”

“Uh, but so far American legal theory has not gone into these so called “right to protect”, uh, and we don’t even have what we had in Kosovo where we had an, you know, an existing resolution and so forth.  Uh, even though we went alone.”

“And so it’s complicated, it’s not easy.  And we’ve been fighting.  How many wars have we been fighting?  We’ve been fighting in Afghanistan, we’ve been fighting in Iraq, we’ve fighting -you know- in the region for fourteen years.  And a lot of Americans don’t believe that we should be fighting and sending young Americans over to die in another country.  That’s the problem.”

“The congress won’t vote to do it. And you can be mad at us, but what we’re trying to do is help Syrians fight for their own country; and we’ve been spending a lot of money, a lot of effort to try and help do this.  So, there’s an opposition there; the opposition is doing very well.  Russia came in, and that’s a problem I know, because, uh, y’ know, uh, we don’t behave like Russians, it’s just a different standard.”

“So we are trying to see if we can test whether Russia, you see, is serious about a political solution.  And if they are not serious, then we will help the opposition more.  But I don’t think that’s particularly good for Syrians in the end because it will mean more fighting.”

Secretary Kerry is then questioned by an obvious sympathizer toward the extremist elements (calls pro-assad Sunni faction “Sunni Jews”) about why the U.S. fights the extremist Sunni (ISIS), but not the extremist Shia (Hezbollah).  Kerry’s response:

“Well, they’re [Hezbollah] a terrorist organization, we’ve designated them a terrorist organization.  The reason for [airstrikes against the Sunni Extremists] is because they have basically declared war on us; and are plotting against us, and Hezbollah is not plotting against us; Hezbollah is exclusively focused on Israel, they’re not attacking now, and on Syria where they are attacking in support of the, uh, in support of Assad.”

“So it a, uh, it’s…”


Question: “But how to make the majority of the Syrian people accept this approach, that because Hezbollah or the Iraqi or Iranian groups are not attacking the U.S. now when they are attacking against the terrorism in Syria?”

Kerry: “Well, they, they are targeted by the opposition who we are arming and training.”

What the recording reveals is substantive:

First, only regime change, the removal of Bashir Assad, in Syria was the 2013, 2014, and 2015 goal for President Obama. This is admitted and outlined by Secretary John Kerry.

Secondly, in order to accomplish this primary goal, the White House was willing to watch the rise of ISIS (’13, ’14, ’15) by placing their bet that ISIS’s success would force Syrian President Bashir Assad to acquiesce toward Obama’s terms and step down.

Thirdly, in order to facilitate the objective, Obama and Kerry intentionally gave arms to ISIS and even, arguably, attacked a Syrian government military convoy to stop a strategic attack upon the Islamic extremists killing 80 Syrian soldiers.

Pause for a moment and consider those three points carefully. Because the audio, along with accompanying research now surfacing, not only exposes these three points as truth – but also provides the specific evidence toward them.

The problem in the Obama/Kerry’s secret strategy became clear when ISIS grew in sufficient strength to give the White House optimism for the scheme – however, instead of capitulation Assad then turned to Russia for help.

When Russia came to aid Bashir Assad the Syrian Government began being able to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Extremist elements within Syria.  For the hidden plan of Obama/Kerry (and also McCain, Graham, et al), Russia defeating ISIS, al-Qaeda and al-Nusra, upended their objective.

Against the backdrop of this recording we can reconcile so many historic issues. We already know of a Second Presidential Finding Memo authorizing additional CIA covert action in 2012, this time in Syria. However, unlike the 2011 Libyan operation we do not know the operational name of the second action in 2012 Syria.

2012: WASHINGTON, Aug 1 (Reuters) – President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.

Obama’s order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence “finding,” broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad. (link)

Further consider how this Kerry audio tape, and the now transparent Obama policy toward Syria, absolutely confirms our earlier research as contained within the Benghazi Brief surrounding Syria.  [Previous post]

President Obama, Secretary Clinton (2011, 2012) and later Secretary Kerry, together with John McCain, and the CIA tentacled team within the Republican party (2013, 2014, 2015) were willing to support extremist (under all factional names) in order to overthrow Bashir Assad…


This was their now admitted policy.

Nothing else mattered.

Now, we keep going.  The challenges change over time.

Now, it is 2017.  Russia has maneuvered in Syria to protect the Assad regime, and wall off ISIS regionally; stopping them from being able to attack Assad.  ISIS (al-Qaeda, al-Nusra etc.) still exists, but they are no longer a threat to Bashir Assad directly.

In 2017 the extremists, previously armed and funded by Obama et al, have been reduced to a regional threat with critical geography now controlled by the Syrian forces and Russian military.

♦  What was true in 2014 (ISIS is a threat to Assad) is no longer necessarily true in 2017 (ISIS, thanks to Russia, now contained in a geographic region within Syria – and not the same threat as 2014).

This understanding helps to reset the landscape to the current quagmire.  The current quagmire is brutally overlooked and misreported by the media, because the situation has fully evolved.

This fundamental paradigm shift in regional action, is what lies behind Assad (and Russia) now focusing on eliminating the political opposition to Assad, that is not ISIS.

The ISIS narrative (including al-Qaeda, al-Nusra) now provides the foil for Assad, with Russia’s help, to eliminate his opposition that is NOT extremist.  Under the guise of fighting terrorism (ISIS) Assad is launching attacks against his political opposition with the intention to wipe them out.

If the Russian military and the entire Syrian military wanted to eliminate ISIS in Syria (said to be approximately 30k +/-), they could do so rather quickly.  They’ve had over a year to assemble enough military personnel and military armament to defeat that enemy.

They have not done so because it doesn’t fit the current agenda: keeping Assad in power.

It is this specific quagmire, via Assad’s interests served by the continuance of ISIS, that creates a situation where the recent chemical weapons were deployed.  Either:

• A.) By Assad against his political opposition groups. Not ISIS terrorists. Or…

• B.) By political opposition groups, against extremists (al-Qaeda, ISIS etc.). Or…

• C.) By extremist groups, against political opposition groups, in an effort to get the Western forces to attack Assad.

Both A and C are most likely. We can make a solid research argument for both motives.  Given the nature of the victims, option B is impossible to reconcile.  If I had to bet I’d say “C”, but the White House claims evidence toward “A”.

However, the reality of this quagmire is also why we previously said it doesn’t matter who used Chemical Weapons

What really matters is President Trump’s response as guided by the regional partners who are aware of this reality.

The joint mid-east alliance have a regional plan to combat extremism and bring back stability.   The alliance has heard from President Trump that he has no intention of engaging U.S. forces in another mid-east war.   However, the alliance members also know for the first time in history they are dealing with a U.S. President that is beholden to no external political elements.  As a consequence, they can trust him:

[…] “I fully trust the capabilities of President Trump … he can succeed in so many fields that others cannot.  I trust him wholeheartedly.”…

The alliance is now asking for Trump’s political leadership strength.

This is where President Trump assigns responsibility, and the promise of further action, to Bashir Assad – and by taking extremely aggressive and public action that was widely accepted as necessary by the larger international community – President Trump is breaking up the availability of Assad (Russia and Iran) to hide behind the useful foil of their opposition to ISIS.

If another chemical attack takes place, Bashir Assad runs the risk of being removed.  And the entire world, sans Russia and Iran, will see the removal action as justified.

Remember, the primary goal of Russia and Iran is to keep Assad in power.

♦ If Bashir Assad did not carry out the prior chemical attack, he, and Russia, is now in a position of having to make sure that another attack doesn’t take place, ever.   This means Russia and Assad need to re-engage the fight against whomever ‘might’ carry out another chemical attack.  (Trump wins)

♦ If Bashir Assad did carry out the prior chemical attack, he and Russia, are now unable to use that action against Assad’s political opposition.  (Trump wins)

President Trump has assigned responsibility, and given consequences.  President Trump is forcing Assad (and Russia/Iran) to: #1) fight ISIS, and #2) stop targeting Assad’s political opposition; at least with chemical weapons.

And THAT is the exact response Assad gave after the 59 tomahawk missiles struck the Syrian airbase.  See:  “Assad promises to fight ISIS harder.”  This is also one of the reasons why the targeted airbase is still operational. 

Now pay attention to Secretary Tillerson:

Overall, the situation in Syria is one where our approach today and our policy today is, first, to defeat ISIS. By defeating ISIS we remove one of the disruptive elements in Syria that exists today.

That begins to clarify for us opposition forces and regime forces. In working with the coalition — as you know, there is a large coalition of international players and allies who are involved in the future resolution in Syria.

So it’s to defeat ISIS; it’s to begin to stabilize areas of Syria, stabilize areas in the south of Syria, stabilize areas around Raqqa through ceasefire agreements between the Syrian regime forces and opposition forces. Stabilize those areas; begin to restore some normalcy to them. Restore them to local governance — and there are local leaders who are ready to return, some who have left as refugees — they’re ready to return to govern these areas.

Use local forces that will be part of the liberation effort to develop the local security forces — law enforcement, police force. And then use other forces to create outer perimeters of security so that areas like Raqqa, areas in the south can begin to provide a secure environment so refugees can begin to go home and begin the rebuilding process.

In the midst of that, through the Geneva Process, we will start a political process to resolve Syria’s future in terms of its governance structure, and that ultimately, in our view, will lead to a resolution of Bashar al-Assad’s departure.

~ Secretary Tillerson during Air-Strike Debrief

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114 Responses to Recording of Secretary Kerry Admitting President Obama Armed Extremists in Syria – And Now Secretary Tillerson and President Trump are Dealing With Consequences…..

  1. akathesob says:

    “get a rope!”

    Liked by 8 people

  2. Fe says:

    Thank you Sundance for yet another carefully researched and supremely written article. With the help of our prayers and God, President Trump and SoS Tillerson will succeed in cleaning up the Obama Administration’s big fat mess in the ME.

    Liked by 16 people

    • Really? Does anyone really believe the mess in the Middle East was caused only by Obama? Certainly he made it the most obvious a mess but the past few presidents did the same. Do you know about the poppy fields? The heroin that our US troops guard?

      Let’s ask ourselves why haven’t we bombed the POPPY fields in Afghanistan, rather than have our troops guard them? Why the sudden bombing in Syria, yet leaving the poppy fields intact? All the heroin in our country — at an epidemic level too — is not all coming in from Mexico by truck and car. It’s flown in. And if we really wanted to “cut off their financing” we’d bomb the poppy fields. But we don’t. Our troops guard them.

      Instead we rush off to bomb Syria. There are many anomalies like this. But when we follow the money we understand. But that is Afghanistan. Syria it’s oil and Israel.

      Really now..

      War on Drugs Revealed as Hoax – US Military Admits Guarding, Assisting Lucrative Opium Trade in Afghanistan. Iraqi media outlets explained that ISIS relies on the cultivation of opium poppies to finance part of its operations.

      And who started ISIS? Think: Washington DC

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      • Link source from above article on US soldiers guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan.


        • In Az says:

          Many have known that the government was behind the illegal drug trade, and that the “war on drugs” is a lie. That is why a southern United States border wall was never built. The people were thrown a bone when the wall was approved, with no intention, ever, of it being built.

          Thank you for the poppy field links. This really burns me because under the corrupt Obama people like me, and now my husband, who medically need certain controlled medications are treated like criminals and drug addicts. The paperwork I have to fill our is assanine……the questions are designed to trap people and make them a target and make it more difficult to receive treatment.

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          • dayallaxeded says:

            This exactly! I have a family member whose mobility and ability to cope with ordinary life activities is dependent on time-released morphine. It’s not an abusable form of an opiate. It works like a charm to relieve pain without knocking the patient out. Yet the current, utter bs war on opiates is being directed at this completely appropriate and benign use as well. I’m more and more convinced, though, that the war on opiates is more motivated by big pharma, b/c opiates have long been in the public domain, i.e. not patentable.

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        • highdezertgator says:

          13,000 heroin deaths in USA in 2015 (and 2,000 in 2002)

          Liked by 2 people

          • sixgeese says:

            Heroin deaths are self inflicted. Poppy seeds are nutritious, healthy, and tasty food, high in calcium.


            • dayallaxeded says:

              Natural selection at work, me thinks. Let it work.

              A USA citizen’s state of mind is his own, per the 1st, 4th, and 5th Amendments to the Constitution. If states want to regulate drugs on health bases, have at it so long as there’s a rational relationship, but there’s no basis for federal regulation and it needs to just go away.


        • jwingermany says:

          A country with a heroin epidemic…is a weaker country…making a globalist take over that much easier. Addicts are people who very likely are a strain on the social system…welfare, unemployment, health care…as well.

          The Cloward and Piven Strategy comes to mind.


      • BebeTarget says:

        Under Clinton’s reign we took the side of Osama bin Laden (Muslims) against the Christians and the Muslims got entry into Europe so their poppies cold travel.and the money would pour in. Wonder why there is a big statue of Bill Clinton in the town square in Kosovo. We’ve been buddy-buddy with the Muslims for a long time . . .the Saudis appreciated that, and still do.

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      • navysquid says:

        Moni…agree with you on all except clarification on ISIS. Here is a history for all on this board. I know, because I was there every year on deployments starting in 2005 until we closed it in 2011. JTJ (Zarqawi’s group) was the original along with Ansar al Sunna, Ansar al-Islam, and many others, were there in 2003, by 2004 splinter groups including JTJ formed al Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI) which became the dominant force in Iraq though many other insurgent groups still were around.

        After we disbanded the Iraqi Army (Yuuuuge Mistake), many of the Sunni Ba’athist Former Regime Elements joined AQI as advisors and leaders. Some of these stayed in Iraq and others fled to Jordan AND Syria and worked across state lines such as Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri and Muhammad Yunis al-Ahmad, two of Saddam’s top Generals (and VP). Why do you think AQI became so well acquainted with rockets, mortars, IEDs, etc…was because these Sunni Ba’athist’s needed an income to feed their family. Many didn’t embrace the ideology but enjoyed having an income again. Many other FRE’s formed Jaysh al-Rijal Tariq al-Naqshabandi (JRTN) and were another lethal FRE group made up of many of Saddam’s former Generals and Colonels…..

        AQI was led by Zarqawi until we killed him following his cleric outside of Baqubah in 2006. With a lull in leadership, AQI was eventually led by Ayyub al Masri (AAM the Egyptian which did not sit well with Iraqi insurgents) and a new group also sprung up called Islamic State in Iraq (ISI) led by Abu Umar al-Baghdadi (AUAB) these two were rivals at times and then eventually merged later in 2008/9 time frame and stayed with the name ISI because by this time with the help of the Sunni-led Sahawa Movement (The Awakening) and Sons of Iraq program, AQI had lost its mojo and wanted to show itself as an Iraqi led group and so AUAB and AAM (Egyptian) led the “new ISI”…at this time current Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim al-Badri aka Abu Dua aka Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was a Minister of Religious Studies in ISI and he eventually rose to be the leader of ISI upon USF taking out AAM and AUAB in April of 2010…and then we eventually pulled out in 2011 as you all know.

        By this time the ISI pipeline had been well established between Syria and Iraq and the group in the last year became known as ISIS. We (IC) NEVER called it ISIL just FYI…the group had gone underground but we in the IC knew that they were still there because Abu Bakr was still alive and recruiting just waiting for Obama to pull us out…because after all they were just a JV team.

        So that’s the story of ISIS…they have always been around and were merged after various groups over the years. I was fortunate to be a part of these various operations and things would be different to this day if Obama would have just left the contingency of 15-25,000 troops that many in the Iraqi Min of Defense wanted and al-Maliki privately had stated.

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      • navysquid says:

        Yep, I spent two and half years in AFG as well. I always thought that so strange and hypocritical that we didn’t just napalm the whole heroin fields but we were told that there were just poor farmers and the other “crops” of wheat and corn, etc just did not bring in as much profit for the AFG economy and after all, wasn’t that why were there was to help get the AFG economy up and running so they could protect their own country and we could go home….?? This is what we were told…poppy DID bring in more money, duh! But many of us were never comfortable watching them grow year after year a drug that was ravaging the rest of the world all so they could grow their economy while back home ours was going to you know where with a hand basket…

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        • navysquid – can you, or anyone else reading here, enlighten me about when the term Sunni Jews first was used and who started it? I read that here on another thread a few days ago and it startled the heck out of me. What does it mean???


      • nobaddog says:

        The war on drugs is to stop any other non preferred person from selling drugs and costing the big smugglers, the U.S. Gov and friends profits. With all the money spent on the war on drugs over the years there wouldn’t be an aspirin left in the country if they were serious! Now the DEA is after doctors and pharmacists who prescribe and dispense narcotics. I know a pharmacist and he told me they visit him every couple months. Check the books to see if hes dispensing too many drugs. They tell his distributor to hold his orders. They wont tell him how many hes allowed to dispense. Most of his customers are elderly so theres less chance of diversion but thats what they do.
        I wish the gov would get out of the illegal drug business. Lets see if Trump is on this.

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        • Your Tour Guide says:

          Informal observations: drug timeline around Atlanta, 1983-1988
          Moved to area circa 1983. Singles days.
          Nightclubs around Atlanta off the chain for coke dealing.

          Going into clubs like the Lime Light, upscale clubs around
          Buckhead, Sandy Springs. Doors to bathrooms blocked,
          lines of coke out on counter, washroom attendants on guard.

          A short time later, began hearing reports from pot user friends
          and acquantainces that they were unable to get their pot.

          The upscale singles complex I lived in at the time had young
          white guys with gold chains out by the pool, working on their
          tans. They were the first ones to have the bulky portable phones
          to make transactions. Since they never left the pool area, it was
          common knowledge that their line of work was coke dealing.

          1985. Crack hits Atlanta. Persons in white, suburban settings
          aren’t affected. Persons in black neighborhoods begin hearing
          gunfire, seeing behaviors that they had never witnessed prior.

          1986-1988. Singles complexes ruled illegal. Flurry of HUD/
          “Fair Housing” Laws passed. Complexes that had been full
          of college grads empty out, replaced by low income families.
          Break ins and gun fire become routine in areas that had never
          had them before.

          1988. The worst. Many neighborhoods routinely hear gunfire
          on the weekends. Worst areas close in to city of Atlanta, and
          rental complexes near the airport. Feds begin making RICO
          confiscations. Stories come out about abandoned possessions
          from drug dealers. Mansions sit gathering dust. Three hundred
          thousand dollar houseboats sit gathering water with unpaid
          dockage fees on Lake Lanier.

          The timeline above is to re inforce Nobaddog’s statement
          about the government only allowing the right people (them)
          to deal drugs. I think that’s why pot wasn’t available for
          awhile in Atlanta and other locations. The feds had other
          ideas in mind. I think it’s also why crack replaced coke.
          The coke dealing was the mob. The crack dealing was
          something else, entirely.

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      • oncefired says:

        The Poppy fields are Guarded for the CIA to Fund Black Ops. The Deep state, Globalists & Elites could care less if our Young kids get Hooked, It is More Control over our Population!


      • This is so infuriating. I can’t take the constant red-pilling, but do want the truth. The depth of corruption in our government can only be the result of a long-sustained campaign by very evil people. My heart screams for justice.

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      • Kroesus says:

        started in the modern era in 1953 with CIA and MI5 meddling in Iran overthrowing a legally elected leader in the furtherance of economic dominance….further advanced by Carter’s acquiescence in 1979 with Khomeini’s establishment of an Islamic State and accelerated with RR’s surrender to their philosophy after the Beirut barracks bombing in 1983 showing ourselves as a “paper tiger”….it had been downhill from there to this point


      • truthseekerr says:

        Thank you Moni.


      • Daniel says:

        Nobody believes the beginning of this was Obama. It’s not what we believe or understand, it’s what we can prove. Do we have audio or other documentation of those who came before? I would like to see it if it exists — proving how deep it all runs is essential to draining the swamp. One thing which makes Obama more significant than those who came before was in how lax, foolish and obvious his team was… and still are, in fact. They are bold and operate openly and *THAT* is how we get people to see and recognize the reality we all know has been there.

        It’s “conspiracy theory” until it’s not. And I believe you. It is about keeping the three letter agencies among others funded with drugs and more.

        If we had GW Bush or any of his direct reports on audio or video, I have no doubt Sundance would have added that to the list of things which condemn the uniparty swamp.


        • It is George Webb series on black-money drug ratlines, involvement,human and organ trafficking.


        • Glenn Stehle says:

          It was Jimmy Carter who began funding Islamic extremists:

          A defining shift in Carter’s Islamic policy — one whose consequences for 9/11 would be significant — was when Brzezinski and his aide Robert Gates from CIA, on July 3, 1979, persuaded Carter to send secret aid to Islamist militants in Afghanistan….

          — PETER DALE SCOTT, The Road to 9/11

          Once Carter set the pattern, no president since has failed to fund and assist Islamic extremists in the war against the “Russian menace.”

          You can read the whole sordid history, elaborately and scrupulously documented, here:


      • Glenn Stehle says:

        MoniQueMoniCat says:

        Syria it’s oil and Israel.


        Israel, Lebanon, Egypt and the Gulf States want a land route across Syria to construct their natural gas pipelines to take their burgeoning and rapidly increasing natural gas reserves to market in Europe. Turkey desires to be the new “energy hub,” the gateway to Europe’s alternative supply to compete with Russian natural gas.

        This = regime change, since Assad has unequivocably said he will allow no pipeline hostile to Russian interests to be constructed across Syria.

        This is from a report authored by the Congressional Research Service:

        Natural Gas Discoveries in the Eastern Mediterranean

        Israel now has the potential to become a gas exporter….

        Although the United States is essentially independent in its natural gas resources, it has expressed interest in the Eastern Mediterranean natural gas resources, particularly in the development of Israel’s resources. Congress and the Obama Administration have undertaken a variety of efforts in regard to the region’s natural gas. Legislation has been introduced in both Houses of Congress, and has become law, during the last couple of sessions that address the region’s natural gas resources….

        There are a number of possible destinations in the region for Israeli natural gas exports, which may have geopolitical benefits. However, questions exist regarding Israel’s ability to create and sustain energy ties with Arab and other Muslim-majority neighbors whose relations with Israel are marked by ongoing or intermittent political disputes and/or sensitivities based on strong, longstanding anti-Israel public sentiment.

        It is unclear to what extent political difficulties with neighbors might be mitigated by the potential material benefits of energy cooperation or by other considerations, and how satisfactory logistical and transportation frameworks and security measures might be implemented.

        Israel might calculate that a prominent role for Noble Energy, a U.S. company, in projects linked with export deals might make the deals less vulnerable to antiIsrael populism.

        This article from eniday explains further the new energy geopolitics taking shape because of the recent natural gas discoveries in the Eastern Mediterranean:

        The mediterranean surprise

        This is a map from the eniday article. LNG liquification and deliquification, as well as constructing sub-sea pipelines, are extremely expensive enterprises, so a terrestrial pipeline across Syria is by far the most economical choice to get Eastern Mediterranean gas to market in Europe.


        • truthseekerr says:

          missiles landed within 50 miles of israel border. israel very quiet though this. I think they put trump against the wall and forced this gas attack story.


      • Joe says:

        Photoshopped. It’s obvious.


  3. @18:30 Secretary John Kerry [transcript] (from above in this article):

    John Kerry: “Well, the problem is the Russians do not care about law, and we do.”

    WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLshevik! Washington DC is completely LAWLESS.

    John Kerry truly is Washington’s LURCH of the {{creepy}} and {{crawly}} swamp of Washington DC.

    I think John Kerry was really saying is replace “law” with “lie” and it all makes perfect sense.

    Putin is their competitor, lots of oil in Russia, but that will get in their way.

    I wouldn’t mind it if they were just honest about it all, then we could make our decision. But they lie to us, even today and by OMISSION, and THAT is what gets me, the LYING. They also do not trust America with the truth because they truly think we are dumb knuckle-dragging ignorant poor slobs and they are the smart and elite ones who “know what’s good for us.”

    And that is to keep the economy going and one thing you need is OIL and WAR. Or so they think.

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    • Alison says:

      She’s back! We ‘ve missed you, MoniqueMoniCat! 😊

      Ditto on all you wrote.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Aileen Wright says:

      Under President Trump, why are we in Syria at all? He has now increased “U.S.” presence there. (“U.S.” is in quotes, as continue to rabble-rouse in Syria is not representative of the common tax payer and/or unfortunate citizen in the U.S.

      ISIS is a construct of the CIA-led intelligence community. How about our president and supposed representatives label the Bush-Clinton-Obama/Soetoro AQ/ISIS charade for what it is and end it, stat.

      If those goons and their bosses want a pipeline, a central bank, and staged terror over there, and nobody *over there* wants to stop it, then for pete’s sake, they can have at it. For now, we thought we had a potential 8 years of concentrating on the U.S. and our relying on our resources.

      There is no such thing as changing or doing away with Islam. It is sheer folly to continue exerting time, energy, and money to those ends.

      Susan Dirty Rice (and Obama in relation to her) and the intel de-scabbing have gone completely AWOL since the convenient “sarin attack” occurred eleventy thousand miles from home.

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      • distracted2 says:

        The humanitarian in me has made peace with retaliation for the use of a chemical weapon. But, and it’s a huge BUT, that is as much as I can get behind without knowing a lot more.

        That said, I completely trust President Trump. I thought long and hard over the weekend about a scenario that would destroy that trust. I’ve concluded that, for me, it would be a lie.

        It’s impossible to know exactly how you will govern, just as it is impossible to know exactly how you will parent, so there are many things I may not agree with that I will be able to live with. What I can no longer tolerate is lying, after decades upon decades of lies told to the American public because those in power deem themselves to know best.

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        • Aileen Wright says:

          President Trump is going by lies of omission. ISIS-as-foil is a false construct. The “sarin attack” is a false construct. They are blatantly known false constructs, yet the response follows along 100% with the narrative of those falsehoods. When do we start leading the world with sunlight as disinfectant?

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          • Aileen Wright says:

            *I am replying again to clarify that *Trump’s* response follows along with the false narrative.

            Very many of us Treeper types are well aware of the false narratives about ISIS and the attribution of attacks and “attacks,” as well as the motives of establishing the pipeline and a central bank and controlling the precious poppies (as another Treeper pointed out).

            We can handle the truth. We CRAVE the truth. Granted, other souls have to be dragged kicking and screaming, and they never will see the light otherwise.

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    • distracted2 says:

      Yes. I did not know about the poppy fields but I was going to mention the oil before reading your post. It’s ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS about the money.

      They all want the oil and they will die to keep it or steal it.


      • truthseekerr says:

        But oil prices are good here. I know Trump has mentioned oil before but this was SO fast of a decision, he may be making a deal with the devil.


  4. Southern Son says:

    Bringin’ the Sunlight!!

    Liked by 2 people

  5. nuthinmuffin says:

    they cared about obama law…


  6. SteveFrench says:

    at least that’s the way they’ve justified it to themselves

    Liked by 1 person

  7. Rainy says:

    Uurrgghh John Kerry….sorry to say what a dismal failure, and no “embellishing” can change that fact.
    Why didn’t Clinton,Powers,Rice mind their own business!!! Stay the hell in your own back yard and stay out of other countries business.
    Arab spring….please…what a mess.
    So frustrating having to pick up the pieces of someone else’s ineptitude.
    Like Trump said God bless us with Your wisdom and I believe He will.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Please excuse the “democrat” label of this graphic, the photo is great but if I could change the graphic I would replace “democrat” with Washington DC.
      THIS is who Trump really is: a creator of jobs and wealth and beautiful buildings and skylines and it’s time to be about his business.

      Caesar Nero himself.

      We really need to stay out of the Middle East. But we won’t. It’s about the oil and about Israel. In Afghanistan it’s about the poppy fields and the heroin, it funds the deep state’s black ops and wars and ISIS, the creation of Washington DC. And our bases around the world act as a cover for child-human trafficking, organ harvesting, and other travesties.

      Reminds me of KEVIN ARNOLD of Fountain Valley, California. I actually knew his sister Michelle, she was my best friend in grade school. My guy knows him too, he was his advisor to my guy’s Explorer Troop. Kevin Arnold is the cop that turned bank robber to provide his wife the lavish life style she demanded. He was a cop by day and a bank robber while on duty. He did it for HER. Then it just became his way of life too. He is dead now and I don’t know what happened to his wife nor his sister. His father was a high ranking General, or it might have been his grandfather.

      So is that what is going on here? We want the money and our husband, goes to distant lands to rob and commit crimes to bring home the bacon so we can live that lavish life style we demand? Of course, if you’re not part of those that live the lavish life style, then you are probably of the “group” that those that do send out to fight their wars and do their bidding.

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  8. Sentient says:

    If President Trump’s Tomahawks cause Assad to go after ISIS more vigorously, great. Can we agree that increasing US presence in Syria would be 1) dumb and 2) contrary to President Trump’s election campaign? Can we also agree that we should not be involved in regime change in Syria?

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    • The bombing is a sham. If we REALLY want to put ISIS out of business bomb their poppy fields. Trump has said many times he would bomb their oil, as that is how they are being funded as well.

      O wait, we can’t do that, they’re protected by American troops! Poppy Bush owns them, among others of “the elite” blood drinkers and child rapists.

      Could it be that Trump’s foreign policy advisors or Trump himself are not aware of the poppy fields and the billions of dollars they generate and the heroin that finds its way to American cities? If not, that is a sad day. If so, then why in hell (literally) have they never been taken out?

      But really, those poppy fields ARE the elephant in the room. To hear the latest war rattling for oil, always falls on deaf ears when they all seem to always leave the Bush’s and deep state’s poppy fields in tact. Another question that is not really a question but AN ANSWER and a clue as to what is really going on over there. Even Iraq knows this.

      I will be expecting news of the poppy fields being bombed if I am to really believe they are serious over there. But I won’t hold my breath, it’s about the oil and about Israel in Sryia and about keeping their competitor out of their way, Putin.

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  9. fleporeblog says:

    TRex said on both Sunday shows that are #1 priority is to defeat ISIS. Our #2 priority is to stabilize portions of Syria near Raqqa to establish safe zones for local governance to return back. This will also allow Syrian refugees to start returning home and rebuilding their country. The most important point that flies in the face of McCain, Graham, Rubio and the rest of the neocons and Europeans is to allow the Syrian people to decide who should lead them. If that is to be Assad than that is that.

    We will not do what the globalist and neocons want which is for us to force regime change and possibly WWIII. The Europeans, Globalist, Soros etc want to destroy Russia with the pipeline Saudi Arabia and Quatar would like to have run through Syria so that the can take over Russia’s business of providing fuel to Europe.

    Liked by 6 people

    • Albertus Magnus says:

      This is what I am talking about. Very well done!

      Liked by 1 person

    • If we are to really defeat ISIS, then we can start by arresting their creators, Obama, Hillary, McCain, et al.

      If we are really to defeat ISIS, then we can bomb their poppy fields which they get their funding from. When I say “they” of course I am including all the usual scum from the pond aka the swamp of Washington DC.

      Strange that no one mentions ISIS’ source of revenue eh? I’ve heard Trump speak of bombing their oil fields to stop their source of revenue, but never once does he nor other leaders bring up the poppy fields.

      Deep State, Bush aka Poppy Bush that’s why. It’s the unmentionable and untouchable revenue of ISIS.

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      • truthseekerr says:

        I think Trump is stuck like a rock in a hard place as he learns if israels true involvement in all this. Some Christians support israel and some don’t


      • Daniel says:

        One has to make an unbeatable case and more than that, the supporting and defending media must ALSO be tamed. We’re talking about a massive globalist thing here. Facts don’t matter — only what they can make people believe matters. That’s the dragon guarding the establishment.


      • Glenn Stehle says:


        This book meticulously documents your claim, and ties it all together:


  10. In Az says:

    While doing things in the house, I was listening to Newsmax. We have Roku, and we access Newsmax through the station Pluto. Newsmax interviewed a woman named Juliana Taimoorazy, about the situation in Syria. This woman is a Christian, born and raised in Iran. Fled to the United States when she was 15 years old because of persecution and death threats.

    I did hear this…….Christians in the Middle East, especially those who live in Syria, are very afraid of Assad being overthrown. They are also afraid if Assad is ousted then Syria will become another Libya, and the situation will be even worse, if that is possible. They are desperately hoping President Trump will not listen to others who want to get rid of Assad right now.

    This woman who was interviewed runs a website called…… (victims of isis. org) This woman works for the Iraqi Christian Relief Council……

    The website soundcloud has a good interview with Juliana Taimoorazy.

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  11. ALEX says:

    Nicely done Sundance. The only thing I’ve been operating on and it hasn’t changed is the statement from Sec. Tillerson, specifically the words you highlighted in boldface at the end of article.

    The other words I found intriguing and you are one of the very few others I have seen point this out, is the Assad statement about fighting ISIS shortly after attack, which was overlooked by most in media and blogs…

    It’s driven me nuts, particularly today listening to the Russia defenders and Assad good guy and we’re helping ISIS with what we did etc claptrap…It’s the exact opppsite and it this one limited strike was not only brilliant, but has the hall mark of the long game thinkers like Mattis and others…This was not some rash decision for any of the talking point reasons…

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    • navysquid says:

      I just typed a lengthy response back on this a minute ago on why getting rid of ISIS isn’t as saying let’s do it! It took US Forces over a decade in Iraq to diminish but never extinguish ISIS in Iraq after Obama pulled us out. Assad needs to stay and the faux “Arab Spring” the Western Media missed on its meaning and purpose and my comments said they were not allowed to post?? I do not know why…


      • MikeH says:

        AFAIK, they don’t block anything here and dissenting opinions have been welcome, at least by the mods.

        I am also a vet and agree with you. The love fest for Tillerson and Trump here is misplaced. McMaster is driving the bus to try to eliminate ISIS and Assad at the same time. Insane.

        You allude to something that I see as correct in Russian foreign policy. They value stability. There is no regime in the MENA area that is ‘good’ including Israel. They all have warts, state killings of civilians, illegal detentions, etc. I wish it were different but it isn’t.

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        • navysquid says:

          I have NEVER had an issue either…the only thing I can think of was I put in Sundance’s name in my response referencing him by saying that just because we say Assad should have removed ISIS if he was serious isn’t as easy as he or others may think BASED totally on my decade of experience in the M.E….They are tough “hombres” and have the support of the communities sometimes by will and other times by force.

          I have never had that response before though in my two years or so coming here. I love the site.


          • G. Combs says:

            WordPress will sometimes send a comment to trash or completely disappear it if you use a word they do not like. Also if you are on their ‘hit list’ you may find your comments have a tough time getting thru. I noticed this happening sinc around Christmas of 2014.


    • Sentient says:

      Bull. Mad Dog and McMasters are trying to drag us right into war in Syria. We’ll have none of your “long game” strategery, thank you very little.


    • truthseekerr says:

      not a rash decision? Trmp said it was because of children being gassed. If it’s an other reason then that, he lied. I’ve seen Clinton/bush/obama lie to my face and that was bad enough.


    • MikeH says:

      I am, in this circumstance, a Russian and Assad defender. You presume far too much. You think you know better than the people on the ground where to concentrate the efforts of an Army you wish destroyed. This is preposterous.

      Stabilizing the West of the country, where the PEOPLE are, is the priority. The SAA recently secured the water source for Damascus from Al Qaeda linked terror groups. Are you suggesting they should not secure the well heads and instead go to unpopulated Eastern areas to do as you wish?


  12. Emblematic says:

    Syria is a large country with porous borders. If opposition groups are determined to stage chemical weapons incidents the Syrian government will not be able to stop them.

    Liked by 2 people

  13. M33 says:

    H O L Y – C R A P ! ! !

    This is gonna be intense, folks…

    When he said “drain the swamp”, boy Trump wasn’t kidding!

    Liked by 2 people

  14. DebbieUK says:

    It’s very sickening that Obama so revered by much of the world cared so little about the blood bath and refugee crisis that followed his policy. Then they had the cheek to lecture us about taking more refugees.
    President Trump needs to start pinning this mess on Obama over and over , not play too nice because they sure wont play nice with him.
    I believe he will find a way to fix it

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    • Obama loves smoking cocaine, playing golf and having sex with his pole smoking pals. He did what he was told and he is and always has been a community organizer dissident and hater of America. In return he got all the dope he wanted and all the time off (recovry time) to keep it hidden. But in his own words he loves cocaine. Everything he did is typical drug addict behavior, everything they touch turns bad.

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    • keeler says:

      Obama isn’t revered by much of the world, at least not as much of it as when he was elected in 2008. The recent CNN interview with a Syrian refugee offers evidence of how much those who actually face the reality of living with the consequences of his actions revile him.

      It’s only those sheltered from the reality of everyday life- the privileged intellectual and mandarin classes of the West- who pine for the days of hope and change, principally because they haven’t had to adjust to the change.

      Liked by 2 people

      • navysquid says:

        Remember what the Egyptians thought of him…they couldn’t stand Choom Gang Barry for giving them Morsi…

        Liked by 3 people

        • Kroesus says:

          I believe Barry Bammy and the Hag have both been declared terrorists in Egypt for their actions leading up to the revolution and MB support installing Morsi

          Liked by 2 people

          • truthseekerr says:

            I am not a supporter of Obama but he did not get us majorly attacked here at home. I trust Trump but not the satanists around him that want war. The media wants war. The elite want war. Independents do not want war. There are democrats in his inner circle and Bannon is getting pushed out? Where was Pompeo in that pic while the missiles where going off? I fear he is being taken over by zionists. I am hoping he is putting America above israel


            • navysquid says:

              truth…you need to relook at your numbers on attacks on the homeland since Obama’s election in 2008. His weakness has invited these attacks from Orlando, San Bernardino, NY Times Square, Underwear guy – Mutallab, Portland, Chattanooga, Boston Marathon, etc and on and on…we did NOT experience these while W was in office.

              FYI…my attitude on W has also changed significantly, sadly, with Trump’s election and they way he has acted.


  15. keeler says:

    Now I understand why Putin still needs Bashar Assad even though Assad can’t survive without Russian support, and why a Bashar Assad retirement wouldn’t help stabilize Syria as much as I had hoped.

    Liked by 1 person

  16. yakmaster2 says:

    “In the midst of that, through the Geneva Process, we will start a political process to resolve Syria’s future in terms of its governance structure, and that ultimately, in our view, will lead to a resolution of Bashar al-Assad’s departure.”

    I thought that statement by Secretary Tillerson was wise when I first saw it on the News, and I’m even more convinced today. He threaded a fine needle, giving the Trump Adminstration a response to war lords like Graham and McCain who want Assad gone yesterday, buying time for the Syrian/Russian fight against ISIS, and using a legal (“Geneva Process”) as a political solution to Assad’s dictatorship AFTER the country is stabilized at some point in the future by “outer perimeters of security.”

    That said, why do pundits keep saying POTUS has no strategy/policy on Syria? The Secretary of State outlined it in his comments. DUH.
    PS. (Nikki Haley should read it).

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  17. Donna in Oregon says:

    This feels surreal, Americans have been violated. Why there are no pitchfork gatherings at Capitol Hill? We’ve paid 4 Trillion dollars for this carnage, & our tax dollars are dripping with blood thanks to these insane politicians. The ME have warred since 630AD, they are savages. But what are our politicians? Worse than savages. They don’t represent me!

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  18. litenmaus says:

    Does anyone remember the “squirrel” that was placed in front of the American people in late 2014 and early 2015 that was deemed to be more dangerous than even ISIS, posed a direct threat to tAmerican soil and used as an excuse for Obama to carry out missile strikes in Syria?.

    On September 18, 2014, we see the Obama disinformation begin when CBS begins their report with “This morning we are learning of a new and growing terror threat coming out of Syria. It’s an Al Qaeda cell you probably never heard of. Nearly everything about them is classified. Bob Orr is in Washington with new information on a group some consider more dangerous than ISIS.” [no mention of al-Nusra]

    September 22, 2014 Obama sends missile strikes against “the Khorasan Group”

    September 23, 2014 – John McCain is peeing on Obama and praising the missile strikes. (Sound familiar?)

    “In the immediate aftermath of the strikes, something remarkable happened. American officials almost immediately began retracting their claims about the level of danger posed by the Khorasan Group. FBI Director James Comey, addressing previous assertions that the group posed an imminent threat to American interests, said, “I don’t know exactly what that word means … ‘imminent.’”

    And al-Nusra denies their existence.

    Anybody remember the Khorasan Group?

    IMO the Khorasan “squirrel” is a perfect example of the type of “political solutions” that Clinton, Kerry & Obama were engaged in.

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  19. wolfmoon1776 says:

    I thought this was one of the more subtle points – where Lurch talked about helping the opposition (meaning ISIS) against the Russians and Syrians MORE. And he is obviously talking about helping them FIGHT.

    “And if they are not serious, then we will help the opposition more. But I don’t think that’s particularly good for Syrians in the end because it will mean more fighting.”


  20. Troublemaker says:

    Top Syrian Army defector not surprised by chemical attacks, says toxins still hidden despite Russia agreement


    On man who certainly wasn’t stunned that Syria had such weapons and would use them was Syrian Brig. Gen. Zaher al-Sakat, once the Bashar regime’s chemical weapons chief in charge of such operations.

    In an interview this week with Fox News, Sakat remained steadfast that there is no way his former boss, Syrian President Bashar Assad, would ever “completely give up” his arsenal. Sakat said that in 2013 he was ordered — from the top — to use chemical weapons, phosgene and chlorine, on three separate occasions.

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  21. ZZZ says:

    ♦ First, only regime change, the removal of Bashir Assad, in Syria was the 2013, 2014, and 2015 goal for President Obama. This is admitted and outlined by Secretary John Kerry.

    Are we promoting this…an obama goal?

    If another chemical attack takes place, Bashir Assad runs the risk of being removed. And the entire world, sans Russia and Iran, will see the removal action as justified.

    So is our promoting (via Haley, et al) the ousting of Assad just theater? We will do it IF another chemical attack occurs? Is this a risk OR a reality. The rhetoric sounds an awful lot like the Iraq invasion rhetoric and subsequent ME invasions.

    I still can’t get past PDJT saying he would stay out of Syria and then doing a 180 just a few days later. Really troubling to me the machinations behind that…I sense his hand was forced.


  22. Great detailed article SD! Tillerson is a perfect fit for pres. Trump! It doesn’t matter what Haley or McMaster say in TV. All must pay attention to what Tillerson says!

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  23. Thanks Sundance, really good article. Helped me get a better understanding of the situation.


  24. The Red Pill says:

    Your backstory of Kerry and McCain are spot on. However, If it is a false flag, as you suspect along with most thinking people, then where is ANY proof that Assad is now fighting political opposition as opposed to ISIS? That is what the world deserves to see in technicolor and that is the argument Trump should have made!


  25. Paul Killinger says:

    If our “partner” nations in the Middle East are so concerned about the use of chemical weapons in Syria, THEY have the air assets to limit these types of actions in the future. Tell them to warm up the jets.


  26. Blade says:

    John F’n Kerry. If hypocrisy was a punishable offense, Lurch would get the death penalty.

    This lousy rotten traitorous scumbag was one of the loudest and nastiest members of the communist Congress attacking the Reagan Administration for supporting the Contra freedom fighters against the Sandinistas ( the Soviet puppet regime in Nicaragua ). This was the Monroe Doctrine ( blocking European colonization of the Western hemisphere ) updated to the Reagan Doctrine ( meeting Soviet expansion wherever it occurred ).

    Young people really need to understand the scale of the hypocrisy here. These (D)emocrat scum criminalized Reagan’s effort to give money to the Contras by passing the unconstitutional Boland “Amendment ” that outlawed the Reagan operation and violated his Constitutional power to set foreign policy. So after they created the fake law, Reagan’s NSC team set about going around it legally by using 3rd parties to give money to the freedom fighters thereby leaving taxpayer funds out of it. The Congress-scum then yelled and called hearings and attempted to execute Lt. Col. Oliver North in a spectacle on national TV. Unfortunately for these pro-communist rats, Oliver North wiped the floor with them and captured the hearts and minds if public opinion.

    Understand the magnitude of this liar Kerry’s flip flop. He vocally attacked North and Reagan for even attempting to supply the anti-Communists fighting the Communists. We even had Kerry and another traitor Senator Tom Harkin photographed down in Nicaragua conspiring with the enemy. Now here on this tape he is literally playing the role that North played 30 years ago, EXCEPT that Nicaragua happens to be right in our neighborhood while Syria is 6,000 miles away where no Monroe Doctrine applies, so we must assume existence of an idiotic Obama Doctrine that stated that USA policy is to overthrow existing governments and replace them with Islamic terrorists! These people are sick.

    Also note the other hypocrisy that Kerry is literally talking about working around the will of Congress in Syria when he says they won’t pass any authorization. That is yet another thing he was yelling about 30 years ago. Of course the difference here is that Reagan was busy blocking Soviet expansion into the western hemisphere where they were not present and do not belong ( also El Salvador, Grenada, Angola, Afghanistan, etc ), while Kerry and Obama were destabilizing an existing government ( Syria ) by using radical Islamic terrorists who hit us on 9/11.

    Think about this fact that has never happened before in our history. Obama-Clinton-Kerry broke the damn world. There is a huge list of countries that they are not welcome, interfered with their elections, plundered them, or can not even set foot in without risking the possibility of arrest and perhaps execution. Russia, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Turkey, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Honduras, Haiti, Venezuela, and maybe even Ukraine and Iran. I encourage them to visit them as soon as possible.

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  27. C. Lowell says:

    ISIS is Obama’s greatest creation —

    Obama is the devil; Democrats are the devil…

    Liked by 1 person

  28. cohibadad says:

    The problem with this analysis is simple and obvious, there are no moderate “rebels”. This used to be understood here. All “rebel” groups belong to the same religion, Wahhabism/Salafism. Arming one, arms them all. Aiding one, aids them all. Assad says this in many interviews. It used to be the position of this website, was it not?

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  29. So much good info, thank you.

    I disagree with the conclusions and also want to point out that you leave out motives.

    1. Syria has a strategic role in terms of gas pipeline. Quatar and Saudis want it to get gas to Europe, Iran and Russia want it to get to Europe. Assad sided with the Russians since he saw what happened to other secular leaders at the hands of US governments. Quatar and Saudis want Assad gone. Follow the money.

    2. The Rothschild family wants to control all the money in the world. They have been successful in many areas of the world, such as in 1913 with the establishment of the Federal Reserve. In the year 2000 Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria & Iran were able to issue their own debt free money. Today, after US interventions, 3 of these 5 now have a private central bank (controlled by the Rothschilds).

    Whenever you do an investigation, ask Who benefits?

    Trump is a good man, but good decisions depend on good data and I think that Deep State, who works for the Saudis & Rothschilds, give him bad information.

    My 2 cents.

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  30. Linda says:

    I wouldn’t trust any Democrat in WASHINGTON ALL CORRUPT POS


    • trapper says:

      Just saw your post after I put up mine below. One thing from Dr. P stuck out for me: the Syria strike as a psyop for the meeting with Xi. If that is the case, if the strike was a “one-off” just to make the point with Xi that Trump will not hesitate to pull the trigger, then that gives me comfort. His concern about US troops and artillery in Syria doesn’t say where they are, and they could just be positioned as for support to the Kurds in an offense against Raqqa.


      • S. Armaticus says:

        I go between CTH and Alex Jones. Both have great objective info. What has me scratching my head is the analysis (interpretation).

        As to The Donald, we have nothing else so no sense in jumping ship or even becoming dramatic. Lot of disinformation going around, so need to stay calm while we watch the movie.

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  31. trapper says:

    I have some questions: Why should Pres Trump deal with the consequences? Trump didn’t make the Middle East mess, so why should he prioritize it? Why not just pound ISIS into oblivion and walk away, at least for now? Ultimately, why not let those in the area clean up the mess? Putin likes Assad so much, why not let him wallow in the mess for a while?

    Same with the Norks. Why engage them now? Why not concentrate on tax reform, trade deals with individual countries, a budget, Obamacare, and getting the money to build the wall? Attention given the ME is time away from these domestic issues, none of which will be a cake walk getting through a hostile and traitorous Republican congress if the Obamacare thing is any indication

    Nork isn’t going anywhere any time soon. Neither is Syria. Why not let the ME coalition get stronger before taking any action? Why the hurry on the ME?

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  32. TheLastDemocrat says:

    I am going to have to read this over a couple times. I have been up late lately working on work projects – it is too much for my tired mind to grasp the magnitude of international fubar along with all the details.

    It at least shows that our foreign policy in Syria, with Kerry helping navigate, was “loose cannon” as far as any decent congressperson would say.


  33. Summer says:

    Wow, there is so much Alex Jones-level paranoia and anti-Trump nuttery in the comment section, I don’t even…
    Now the not so subtle “message” is “Trump is a liar”, “Trump protects poppy fields” and “Trump is doing Israel’s bidding.”

    Sometimes I wonder…


    • Sharon says:

      I don’t (wonder). Most of the population has been misinformed or under-informed or ignorant-by-their-own choice for most of my life. I’m 72.

      It is only in the last few years, due to the internet, that so many feel bold and informed and thus entitled to spout off their uninformed reactions. A high percentage of comments are reaction only. There is very little actual response to the situation or topic at hand – just spouting off emotional reaction, underlying fears and suspicions, looking for tidbits that support the existing mindset.

      Keep in mind that many of the most vocal and opinionated smack-mouth name-callers today are ones who elected obama once or twice. Like the Platte River – two miles wide and two inches deep.

      Don’t wonder. Believe your lying eyes.

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  34. youme says:

    Kerry does a 180 December 16, 2015

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday accepted Russia’s long-standing demand that President Bashar Assad’s future be determined by his own people, as Washington and Moscow edged toward putting aside years of disagreement over how to end Syria’s civil war.

    “The United States and our partners are not seeking so-called regime change,” Kerry told reporters in the Russian capital after meeting President Vladimir Putin. A major international conference on Syria would take place later this week in New York, Kerry announced.

    Kerry reiterated the U.S. position that Assad, accused by the West of massive human rights violations and chemical weapons attacks, won’t be able to steer Syria out of 4 ½ years of conflict.

    But after a day of discussions with Assad’s key international backer, Kerry said the focus now is “not on our differences about what can or cannot be done immediately about Assad.” Rather, it is on facilitating a peace process in which “Syrians will be making decisions for the future of Syria.”


  35. Mike says:

    Sorry to say but Tillerson & the Trump admin. is as full of sh*t about this as Obama’s was. The ‘political opposition’ to Assad is fundamentalist Islam. Syria under Assad is an unusually modern and civilized country that is tolerant of women’s rights & Christianity, The problem is that they have land that the Zionists ultimately believe is theirs (look up the Yinon Plan), so the goal is to destabilize the country, as Sean Spicer blurted out, and weaken it by putting it under the country of backwards warring Jihadist groups that can be more easily defeated by Israel than a sophisticated army.


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