Sunday Talks – U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, and Necessary Paradigm Shifts…

Before getting to the interviews by current U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Mrs. Rubio vis-à-vis Syria, it is important to reassert reference points that are being intentionally overlooked by media; reference points the MSM pundits intentionally hide.

Point One – Russia, Iran and Syria’s President Bashir Assad care primarily about one thing: keeping Bashir Assad in power.  All other influential objectives are secondary to this primary intention.  All of the actions taken by Russia, Iran and the Syrian Government are specifically focused on keeping Bashir Assad in power.

Point Two – All historic action taken by the Russian, Iranian and Syrian participants are to eliminate the opposition to Assad.  Goal #1 keep Assad in power, necessitates goal #2 eliminate Assad’s opposition.

Point Three – So long as Russia, Iran and the Syrian Regime can use the terrorism of ISIS as a foil they will continue to do so.   As long as the appearance of Assad fighting ISIS remains the cognitive reference point of the international community – it is easier to keep Assad in power.

Point Four – Therefore the continued ground action of ISIS becomes a tool, a foil, to keep pressure away from the international community focusing on Assad’s removal.

Point Five – It is currently more beneficial for the objectives of Russia and Iran for the ISIS terrorism narrative to remain in place.  The Syrian regime can survive with Assad, and accomplish the agenda of Russia and Iran,  so long as the appearance of fighting ISIS remains the international optic.

These points have evolved over time.  What was true in 2014 (ISIS is a threat to Assad) is no longer necessarily true in 2017 (ISIS, thanks to Russia, now contained in a geographic region within Syria – and not the same threat as 2014).

This understanding helps to reset the current paradigm.  This quagmire is brutally overlooked by the media.

This fundamental paradigm shift in regional action, is what lies behind Assad (and Russia) now focusing on eliminating the opposition to Assad, that is not necessarily ISIS.

The ISIS narrative (including al-Qaeda, al-Nusra) now provides the foil for Assad, with Russia’s help, to eliminate his opposition that is NOT extremist.  Under the guise of fighting terrorism (ISIS) Assad is launching attacks against his political opposition with the intention to wipe them out.

If the Russian military and the entire Syrian military wanted to eliminate ISIS in Syria (said to be approximately 30k +/-), they could do so rather quickly.  They’ve had over a year to assemble enough military personnel and military armament to defeat that enemy.

They have not done so because it doesn’t fit the current agenda: keeping Assad in power.

It is this specific quagmire, via Assad’s interests served by the continuance of ISIS, that creates a situation where the recent chemical weapons were deployed.  Either:

• A.) By Assad against his political opposition groups. Not ISIS terrorists. Or…

• B.) By political opposition groups, against extremists (al-Qaeda, ISIS etc.). Or…

• C.) By extremist groups, against political opposition groups, in an effort to get the Western forces to attack Assad.

Both A and C are most likely. We can make a solid research argument for both motives.  Given the nature of the victims, option B is impossible to reconcile.  If I had to bet I’d say “C”, but the White House claims much evidence toward “A”.

However, the reality of this quagmire is also why we previously said it doesn’t matter who used Chemical Weapons

What really matters is President Trump’s response as guided by the regional partners who are aware of this reality.

The joint mid-east alliance have a regional plan to combat extremism and bring back stability.   The alliance knows President Trump has no intention of engaging U.S. forces in another mid-east war.   The alliance members know for the first time in history they are dealing with a U.S. President that is beholding to no external political elements.   The alliance is asking for Trump’s political leadership strength.

By President Trump assigning responsibility, and the promise of further action, to Bashir Assad; and by taking extremely aggressive and public action that was widely accepted as necessary by the larger international community – President Trump is breaking up the availability of Assad (Russia and Iran) to hide behind the useful foil of their opposition to ISIS.

If another chemical attack takes place, Bashir Assad runs the risk of being removed.  And the entire world, sans Russia and Iran, will see the removal action as justified.

Remember, the primary goal of Russia and Iran is to keep Assad in power.

♦ If Bashir Assad did not carry out the prior chemical attack, he, and Russia, is now in a position of having to make sure that another attack doesn’t take place, ever.   This means Russia and Assad need to re-engage the fight against whomever ‘might’ carry out another chemical attack.  (Trump wins)

♦ If Bashir Assad did carry out the prior chemical attack, he and Russia, are now unable to use that action against Assad’s political opposition.  (Trump wins)

President Trump is forcing Assad (and Russia) to fight ISIS.

And THAT is the exact response Assad gave after the 59 tomahawk missiles struck the Syrian airbase.  See:  “Assad promises to fight ISIS harder.”  This is also one of the reasons why the targeted airbase is still operational. 

It is important to reset the overall review to this include this perspective when you watch the interviews with Nikki Haley.

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Now pay attention to Secretary Tillerson:

Overall, the situation in Syria is one where our approach today and our policy today is, first, to defeat ISIS. By defeating ISIS we remove one of the disruptive elements in Syria that exists today.

That begins to clarify for us opposition forces and regime forces. In working with the coalition — as you know, there is a large coalition of international players and allies who are involved in the future resolution in Syria.

So it’s to defeat ISIS; it’s to begin to stabilize areas of Syria, stabilize areas in the south of Syria, stabilize areas around Raqqa through ceasefire agreements between the Syrian regime forces and opposition forces. Stabilize those areas; begin to restore some normalcy to them. Restore them to local governance — and there are local leaders who are ready to return, some who have left as refugees — they’re ready to return to govern these areas.

Use local forces that will be part of the liberation effort to develop the local security forces — law enforcement, police force. And then use other forces to create outer perimeters of security so that areas like Raqqa, areas in the south can begin to provide a secure environment so refugees can begin to go home and begin the rebuilding process.

In the midst of that, through the Geneva Process, we will start a political process to resolve Syria’s future in terms of its governance structure, and that ultimately, in our view, will lead to a resolution of Bashar al-Assad’s departure.

~ Secretary Tillerson during Air-Strike Debrief

See the plan?

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547 Responses to Sunday Talks – U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, and Necessary Paradigm Shifts…

  1. jeans2nd says:

    Would there be a possibility of an Option D – (political opposition groups + extremist groups) against Assad, in an effort to get the Western forces to attack Assad?

    If D, then did Assad know CW was at that site?

    If Yes, which imo is likely, then Assad attacking the site makes Assad responsible for releasing the CW, and vindicates POTUS decision to bomb Assad’s airbase.

    If No, then what reason would there be for Assad to attack the site, as “it doesn’t fit the current agenda: keeping Assad in power?”

    No comment re: Mrs. R.

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  2. Sam Houston says:

    Listen to Christian refugees from Syria. Assad PROTECTED them. He did this bc they are both enemies to the Sunnis. So in their view, leaving Assad in is their best guarantee right now that they can return home and know that those in power will protect their right to live and thrive. If allies could somehow place an el Sisi type into power than that would be great, but their are so many wolves in sheets clothing and an entire cabal that wants Assad gone, a puppet president installed, and a pipeline run through Syria and Turkey. And that is why Iran, Russia and Syria are all on the same team.

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    • cozette says:

      Trump totally understands all of the dynamics you mentioned.

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    • Timmy-the-Ute says:

      Assad uses Christians as shields from western interference. He tells the West that if he goes Christians die. Whether it is true or not the Christians are still being used. Yes, the Christians will say the are thankful that Assad doesn’t kill them, but it is not because Assad cares about them, they are only leverage.

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        • Theo West says:

          But is has been pretty hard watching Christians, along with Yazidis and others, get beheaded, burned alive, sexually enslaved, etc in places where they are not protected. And whatever one may think of Putin, he is protecting Christian culture in Russia, and is very critical of Western decadence, something I appreciate and resonate with.

          Sundance, one thing I’d love you to address – maybe you have and I’ve overlooked it – is WHY Russia wants to keep Assad in power. If I understand it right, it’s over oil. Russia wants an oil pipeline through Syria, the US does too, but wants to control it and keep Russia out. I’d like Trump to make deals with Russia, including regarding oil, but especially in the interest of Christian culture and values we share. Am I just naive?

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        • Sam Houston says:

          Regime change for Christians in other ME countries hasn’t worked out so well, so I’m going to err on the side of whatever the Assyrians are asking for. If we take out Assad they will get his brother, who by all reports is much more brutal. All any of us can really do is pray for God’s guidance and intercession in Syria and the entire ME and Africa for our brothers and sisters there.

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      • KitKat says:

        I’d like to know if he has any political opposition that is not eyeing a theocracy as their preferred political outcome. Any “secular” rebels, so to speak. I see him as being in a position much like the Shah of Iran was. After the Shah was gone, Christians left Iran in droves.

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        • Theo West says:

          And moderate Muslim Iranians escaped if they could. A friend of mine, forced to serve in the Iranian military, crawled through ditches to get out. His father was a businessman under the Shah, imprisoned for 10 years after the Shah was gone. Finally got out and came west. Interestingly, whole family has since converted to Christianity, now they’re out of the Muslim world and able to see how awful it really is.

          The problem is any US puppet regime is pretty much hated by the rest of the ME, does not last and can wind up worse than before when it falls, like Iran. I want to avoid that in Syria if at all possible.

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          • KitKat says:

            Thanks for your very interesting reply. I agree there shouldn’t be a puppet regime, but I do hope Syria doesn’t wind up smashing its Christian churches quicker than Putin is rebuilding them in Russia.

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            • Theo West says:

              What I like about Putin’s partnership with Assad is he encourages the protection of Christians. I was grateful when he intervened to free Aleppo, which is now returning to normal life and rebuilding. If we take Assad out and provoke war with Putin, what happens then? I hate Assad. But I love Christians more and want a good relationship with Russia, where a million+ baptisms are happening every year.

              And I want our foreign policy to reflect concern for Christians and a Christian way of life, not only concern for oil and commerce. Otherwise we’re just servants of the economic beast of Rev 13, not of Christ.

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              • KitKat says:

                Although your desire for a foreign policy like that seems unlikely in this age, I believe that at some point in the future, as Christianity develops to its full potential as a living faith, beyond ritual to include healings such as were done by the first Christians, your desire will become the reality.

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          • vfm#7634 says:

            The Persians are still sore about the Arabs forcing Islam in them, so they’re more willing to let go of the religion if they get the chance. In fact, most Iranians in the US are non-Muslim. In Europe, Iranians cause fewer problems than most other Middle Easterners.

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      • KitKat says:

        I think there is more depth to Assad’s relationship to Christianity that he is being given credit for. Being as he is a Syrian nationalist, and that the Christian church has such a rich and ancient cultural tradition in Syria, I don’t think Assad thinks of the Christians as merely “leverage.” I doubt that he enjoys watching the ancient traditions and monuments of his national cultural heritage being destroyed. In that way he has a lot in common with Putin.

        The Syrian Bible called the Peshitta was translated into Syrian in the second century. Also, Michael Aflaq, considered to be the founder of the Ba’athist party that Assad was grounded in, was a Syrian Greek Orthodox Christian.

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        • Kaiser Roll says:

          Aflaq is disliked in Syria, because he backed Saddam’s Iraq Baath party. Saddam later decided that Aflaq was a secret Muslim.

          The problem with Assad is that he doesn’t want to make an accomodation with the Kurds, for fear that any autonomy given to them will one day result in an independent Kurdistan.

          If Assad is using Christians as leverage (and he probably is), we should not forget that Sisi in Egypt is doing the same thing.

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          • KitKat says:

            I mentioned Aflaq just as an example of how much the Christian religion permeates Syrian culture. If he was a secret Muslim, I wonder why he’d have to keep his true religion a secret.

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        • flawesttexas says:

          Assad family ancestry has a lot of Christians from the crusades era. I remember in my Middle East studies a professor discussed this (this class was back when Assad’s father, Hafez, was in power)

          Just something to note

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      • Lulu says:

        Well gee it would be so much better not to be used as leverage and be killed while your children are made into sex slaves. That is the situation in the ME. Islam is once again on the move worldwide and in places where Christians and other religious minorities area very small percent of the population it means death or conversion. But it sure will be nice to prop up another Saudi approved Sunni regime at the expense of Christians. See Yugoslavia.

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      • Derek of Florida says:

        The conjectured motivation doesn’t matter. Syrian Christians are backers of Assad because he protects them to the best of his ability for Syria’s best interest. General al-Sisi protects Christians looking out for Egypt’s best interest.

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  3. 2x4x8 says:

    “Trump has no intention of engaging US forces in another Middle-east war”

    yeah, right, we will see

    View story at Medium.com

    (if the President keeps surrounding himself with people that support the agenda of the globalist cartel the USA loses)

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    • Deplorable Alpha Vulgarian says:

      This is what I’m waiting on. Either I stick with Trump and it goes the way Sundance suggests it does, or we begin an invasion/WW3 and I’m off Trump because it’s none of our god damn business still (I’m still open to other motives behind this move I disagree with).

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      • Venus says:

        Let me put your fevered dreams to rest: Congress isn’t authorizing 150,000 ground troops to Syria unless Assad personally comes here and blows up the statue of liberty.
        JFC you people need to THINK

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        • 2x4x8 says:

          question?

          was G WN Bush mislead into war in Iraq because of FALSE “intelligence” of weapons of mass destruction?

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          • Venus says:

            I don’t answer questions from anyone who is silly enough to believe that short of Syria invading the USA that Congress is EVER going to authorize 150,000 ground troops to invade Syria. I mean JFC how can anyone entertain that for even 1 minute — 150 freaking thousand ground troops LMFAO!!!

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            • 2x4x8 says:

              where was the authorization for 59 Tomahawks?
              where was the authorization of the ENTIRE US military Tank divisions to do maneuvers in Eastern Europe?

              maybe you will answer Rand Paul’s questions?

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              • Venus says:

                LMAO doesn’t know the difference between firing missiles under Art I I authority and declaration of war (150 freaking THOUSAND ground troops invasion) and expects me to answer his questions.
                Listen bub, there is a line between delusional and plain old stupid. I don’t care what side of that line you are on — I’m not answering your idiotic questions.

                Watch yourself. Fine to make a point, but name calling and insults are strictly forbidden here. Admin

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                • jello333 says:

                  Okay, c’mon. You may not agree with 2×4 (I probably don’t either in this case), but you don’t have to get all personal about it. He’s been an important member of the Treehouse for a long time.

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                • Blade says:

                  Wow, you are way out of line attacking him like that, violating Sundance’s rules I suspect.

                  But you didn’t answer the question. There is no “authorization” and that is precisely many peoples’ problem with this. Clinton had vague “retaliation” as an excuse for the aspirin and baby milk factory takedown after Monica, I mean the African embassies were bombed. Bush 43 had a violated ceasefire and ( constitutionally insignificant ) UN resolution, Reagan had “retaliation” for the Sidra migs and Libyan Air Raid ( Berlin night club ). I could go on for hours! One reason DingleBarry didn’t go into Syria was that Congress denied an authorization in apparent rebuke, or maybe just worried about re-election.

                  You slipped in something there about Article I, but have no idea what that means as there is no Act Of War declared by Congress and no resolutions passed and signed in the last 90 days ( and they certainly would, and could have ). So like it or not, and believe me, lots of us do NOT like it, he got roped into making his bones without any authorization, Constitutionally or statutorily. In the mafia when you make your bones, the hit becomes a Sword of Damocles held over your head. That is what is aggravating lots of people.

                  As far as authorizing 150k, of course they would. There are 405 liberals/neocon/RINOs to maybe 30 alleged conservatives. The Senate is probably 90-10.

                  Now, what is it that you know that we don’t know?

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                • 2x4x8 says:

                  when a President sends a budget to Congress, you think he gets everything he asks for?

                  i am not standing behind THE number, only that there are elements using Black Hats IN the Fed Gov that benefit from war, and some are pushing Trump in that direction

                  Obama did ask for a “surge” of 30,000 in Afghanistan, and got it

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              • KitKat says:

                It’s interesting how little publicity Obama’s bomb strikes got.

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          • jello333 says:

            But I think there’s a huge difference between the two men. I think W was predisposed to a willingness to accept any “evidence” that would lead to a war. I think the guy really DID (does?) have the kind of makeup that is okay with death and destruction. (Yeah, I’ll probably get slammed for that.) Trump, on the other hand? NO WAY. So I can’t see him agreeing to anything that’ll lead to massive suffering unless he really has no other option.

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          • JoAnn Leichliter says:

            I think “mistaken” might fit the pre-war Iraq intelligence better than “false.” While I think Bush was not unhappy with the intel (family grudge there), U.S. intelligence was not alone in its error–or partial error. There seems to be a consensus that, while had ceased active pursuit of nukes, it had maintained a substantial stockpile of chemical weapons, which were shipped to Syria prior to the U.S. invasion.
            The other tired claim is that the Iraq war was “all about oil,” which simply proved to be false.

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          • Old Codger says:

            GW Bush was looking for a fight; he wasn’t misled at all!
            Haven’t you learned anything about the Bush Crime Family???

            GW Bush let his IC folks know he was looking for reasons to bamboozle the American people! He himself made a huge deal of 9/11 as a casus belli against saddam, when he knew his Saudi friends were responsible for that controlled demo mess.

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          • vfm#7634 says:

            Trump isn’t Dubya.

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        • mdaush says:

          Sort of like 9/11?
          How’d that go for us? We supposedly get attacked by 19 Saudis with box cutters and go to war against every ME country but Saudi Arabia…all the while losing all of our personal freedoms through the Pqtriot Act. Your wife and children are felt up by TSA goons and every phone call, email and text are recorded by the NSA so they can surveil us if we ever get to a position of prominence like Trump did when he ran for President…what could go wrong?

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    • sundance says:

      You just lost all credibility in your argument by linking to, and framing it around, a conspiracy theorist whose expressed objective is to see Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump dispatched from the White House because he believes President Trump is being mind-manipulated by his family.

      The fail is strong.

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      • Many thanks, Sundance.

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      • 2x4x8 says:

        what did you think of K T McFarland’s credibility? and her leaving NSA

        she was asked by Trump to join his administration, unlike the 1 or was it 2 Neo-Con/Globalist that Trump had to prevent from being hired by his Cabinet members

        (now i gotta work to research to look up their names to “establish credibility”, tough being a Patriot, especially with other Patriots)

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        • sundance says:

          I think if you go back and look, KT McFarland was “asked by General Flynn” to be a part of the NSC he was assembling. He is no longer National Security Advisor.

          And I think if you look now, you will see KT McFarland being given a new role as ambassador to Singapore.

          None of that is conspiracy or conjecture.

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          • 2x4x8 says:

            so if there are Black Hats and White Hats, and KT is a White Hat, she was taken out of the important input into foreign intelligence, score one for the Black Hats, they can more easily do “weapons of mass destruction” or “pissgate” and mislead Trump, like into bombing Assad, where was that in a campaign promise?i know “join Russia, defeat ISIS” was one

            http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/08/ron-maxwell-america-last/

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            • sundance says:

              What part of …”KT McFarland was “asked by General Flynn” to be a part of the NSC he was assembling. He is no longer National Security Advisor.”…. are you struggling with?

              Team leaders assemble the members of their team.

              General McMasters has every right to pick his team members as General Flynn did.

              No grand conspiracy.

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            • cozette says:

              And now because of the strike Trumps SOS and Putin can finally work together to fight ISIS and resolve the Syria problem. Before the gas attack the neocon globalists had boxed Trump in using charges of treasonous collusion with Putin preventing Trump from partnering with Russia. Now Putin and Trump are free to collaborate. The neocons were out foxed. Personally I believe Nikki, the neoconservatives pin up girl, was used to distract them from what Trump was pulling off until it was too late.

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        • Venus says:

          I love all rhe Internet experts on McMaster when you know this time last year they couldn’t have picked him out of a line up.

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          • dutzie60 says:

            Inserting this here ….missmarple posted this link to an article on another thread today about Gen. McMaster that I found interesting. Maybe it will help explain his thinking and concept of the Middle East.
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/mcmaster-brilliant-choice/

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            • windwardman says:

              Here is the answer to Thomas Wictor’s challenge:

              McMaster is shown saying, “We will defeat today’s enemies . . . who cynically use a perverted interpretation of religion to incite hatred and justify horrific cruelty.” That essentially means that that they’re not really Muslim. Keep in mind that the different sects of Islam have different interpretations, and that they don’t get along–to put it mildly. Perhaps McMaster is referring to Wahhibism and Salafism as being perversions; others say, however, that they are the true Islam while Shi’ism and less strident forms of Sunnism are just watered down versions of Islam.

              The man who made the video and is shown in it is retired F.B.I. counter-terrorism agent John Guandolo (expansion on his theme here: https://www.understandingthethreat.com/unfit-for-duty/ and here: http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/02/the-islam-catastrophe-continues/). Recall, as well, that most mosques in the U.S. and in other lands outside of Islamic countries are funded by the Saudis–the land from which the Wahhabis spring, and that many therefore preach the militant, actively jihadist form of Islam from Saudi Arabia. Guandolo works with the Center for Security Policy with Jim Hanson, Frank Gaffney, Stephen Coughlin, etc. Here he is in an interview with Steve Bannon on Breitbart:

              http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/04/breitbart-news-daily-ex-fbi-counterterrorism-agent-vast-majority-of-us-mosquesislamic-centers-part-of-jihadi-network

              However, having written all of this, and after reading Wictor’s article, I can see that McMaster is to be praised, as well, and that his view of Islam isn’t a naive danger. It is simply a view of Islam based on his having been stationed in the predominantly Shia Iraq. Syria is mostly Shia, as well, so his wanting to get along with the locals and use local governments to help in returning Syria to normal is a good plan–for Syria.

              The problem arises when, as Guandolo points out in his video, Muslims grow more deeply in their faith, for it is then that they tend to become jihadists–especially when being taught in the Saudi-funded mosques run by Wahhabi imams and such. Sunnis believe the Shia to be heretics, to be moderate and to have a watered-down, more worldly belief in Islam. In turn, the Wahhabists look at other Muslims, including other Sunnis, as heretics. There is only one version that is correct, however, and a look at history will tell you that Mohammad was quite strident and jihadist himself–in fact, he was the pure example of jihad.

              Now, as Christians and Jews, we know–or should know–that Islam is a false religion, that the ‘angel’ speaking to Mohammad was a demon, and therefore that the religion, when practiced ‘correctly’, leads to all sorts of demonic acts and atrocities. If you don’t expect this, you’re naive and historically uneducated. The challenge in carrying out McMaster’s plan for the normalization of Syria depends, therefore, on keeping Syrians Shi’ite and heretical by keeping the pure form of Islam that emanates from Saudi Arabia–through ISIS, al Qaeda, etc–at bay. Perceived from the eyes of pure Islam, it’s a matter of keeping the truth from the eyes and minds of heretics. With a large Shia population, that’s even secular to some extent, this shouldn’t be all that difficult–once the difficult part is accomplished, that is: removing ISIS and other terror groups from the country.

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      • Theo West says:

        All issues aside, I don’t like nepotism. It’s unethical in government and business, and sets a bad precedent.

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        • sundance says:

          Their role to me seems more about Trust and Advice.

          You only want single, unmarried, unattached people in government who will take an oath not to listen to the advice and counsel of their family?

          That’s your image of an ideal leader?

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          • jello333 says:

            I’ve mentioned before that I wasn’t a fan of Reagan… but there were a few things I still liked about him. One was his relationship with Nancy, including (reportedly) that he’d often ask her for advice on many things. I’m not saying I was always comfortable that he did that, but it DID make him seem more like a normal guy to me. OF COURSE you’re gonna want the opinion of your closest friend, your lifelong soul-mate. I liked that about him.

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            • woohoowee says:

              It seems that many Americans have lost sight of some of the importance and meaning of family 😦

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            • ZZZ says:

              I just watched a documentary where it purported that she (Nancy) got Don Regan fired…they didn’t like each other. He was the Chief of Staff.

              I don;’ mind nepotism IF the person is qualified…otherwise it is no different than affirmative action.

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          • woohoowee says:

            But that “street only runs one way”, Sundance. Consider the ties between our latest libtard cabal (Obola & Crew) and family ties to the UniParty Propaganda machine. We’re being buried in propaganda again. Which is the whole point?

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            • woohoowee says:

              IOW nepotism is just fine unless Trump45 values family input and then it’s taboo. Libtards aren’t going to continue this double standard if I have anything to say about it!

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          • Theo West says:

            No, not at all, I’m just uncomfortable giving them formal government roles or jobs. Of course presidents talk to family members, I just prefer it to be informal and off the record. I mean, if Hillary had won, gosh I’d hate for her to give Chelsea a job – and then Chelsea have more resume for running for office later! I’m tired of Bush/Clinton/Kennedy family dynasties, it’s not what our nation was founded on. Too much like royalty, too much power in the hands of a single family.

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            • UKExpat says:

              Oh you mean like JFK appointing his BROTHER Attorney General.

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            • woohoowee says:

              It isn’t a dynasty. It’s an extremely smart man who values the input of a son-in-law and daughter. I fail to see any issue with Jared or Ivanka. IMHO Ivanka is her father’s daughter (as a father’s daughter I know of what I speak). Anyone having issue with Jared or Ivanka is “out there” as far as I’m concerned. How anyone can have issue with a close family is beyond me, not to mention Ivanka being an accomplished woman in her own right. The whole “Jared and Ivanka shouldn’t be there!” line is merely another attempt to weaken Trump45. It won’t work!

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              • Ackman420 says:

                First post here.
                I’ve garnered that the opposition to Kushner and Ivanka revolves around very thinly veiled, or not at all, accusations of Chabbad and Zionist conspiracy.
                Carry on, treepers.

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            • CathyMAGA says:

              So, you would prefer that Trump have ZERO trusted people next to him? Because that’s what it would be if they weren’t there. Let me remind you, DC is not packed with people who LOVE TRUMP. Or have his best interest in mind. People who think Ivanka and Jared should be GONE want that so he has NO one to go to other than the DC swamp. Think on it. If you’re really on the Trump Train, you should want him to have trusted people with him. Not nepotism at all.

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        • Venus says:

          JFC Nepotism rules are meant to prevent idiot unqualified family from being given jobs, not highly qualified hard working ones from getting jobs.

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          • 2x4x8 says:

            i would agree on that, but not the Urban Liberal viewpoint of the Kushners

            SD runs around posting a map of the USA with Red vs Blue voting areas (by county i think
            )

            where is the Red State of mind advisors (Sarah Palin-Alaska, Dan Quayle Indiana, Bobby Jindal-Louisiana)
            Jeff Sessions recurses himself from the Russian probe, it was the Kushners and Bannon, Trump was pissed

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            • Venus says:

              You fell for story that turns on Congress approving 150,000 ground troops to Syria
              I don’t care what you think.
              No offense but you’re not too bright

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            • mikeyboo says:

              Understanding the urban liberal mindset is not the same as being taken in by it. Trump is a native New Yorker. He has lived along side that mind set all his life but he doesn’t share it. that’s why they hate him.

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              • 2x4x8 says:

                Bombing Assad is 180* reversal of what Trump campaign on, i am a voter and supporter, dissappointed, oh, well, will see how it goes

                McCain and Graham did not vote or support Trump and they are happy and recommending MORE military action

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        • wheatietoo says:

          To be actual ‘nepotism’…there is usually some financial benefit involved.

          Both Ivanka and Jared are taking financial hits in taking on these jobs.
          It is costing them, bigtime, to be doing this.

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        • trumptyear says:

          some family-run companies are..

          Wall-Mart,Campbell Soup ,Ford,Estée Lauder,Gap Tyson Foods and 21st Century Fox are family business controlled by family.

          I wish our schools were controlled by family instead of government unions.

          everybody Wins

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      • I’m amazed these people don’t seem to grasp the whole ‘Members of his family’ aspect and why their goal, is DOA. Never mind stupid, as before anyone else was there – President Trump’s family have consistently been by his side and serving his interests well.

        Yes, before Steve Bannon was there to be ‘Trump’s evil brain’ according to the Media. Ivanka and her husband, already held influence. Banishing either, isn’t going to change that. That is to say. If its Trump you support, part of what makes Trump, Trump, is indeed Ivanka.

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    • Venus says:

      If you think Congress is going to approve 150,000 ground troops to Syria I’ve got a bridge to sell ya.
      Or don’t you realize that to move 150,000 (!) ground troops to Syria Trump would need an AUMF from Congress? Lol
      Cernovich doesn’t realize that either so I guess neither do his cultists.

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      • GaryT ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ🇺🇸 says:

        For real. Not for 30,000 fighters, we can show a lot better economy of force than that for sure.

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    • GaryT ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ🇺🇸 says:

      The McMaster-Petraeus plan? 150,000 troops to do what exactly? First, we would have to put America in a full state of war and I don’t think Congress is gonna bite. But if they did we would need a Supreme Commander Allied Powers Middle East (SCAPME) gain air superiority (kick Russia out?) establish a “green zone” headquarters for C3 — I would have no idea where. Once the 30,000 ISIS wimps are done in (2 weeks at the most) is there another worthwhile objective while we’re at it? Mike C is a Tom Clancy wannabe, but he needs to fill in the rest of the story. Fiction writing leaves lots more flexibility than that.

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    • pocketnuke61 says:

      Cernovich has no more insight into this than anyone else. He is too infatuated with the idea of intrigue in the Trump administration. He sees schemes everywhere.

      Read McMaster’s book, “Dereliction of Duty”, about McNamara and Pres Johnson. McMaster understands very well the risks of giving manipulated intelligence data to Pres Trump and is not likely to do it. It is not in his character.

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    • cozette says:

      Trump listening to globalists and neocons whom he’s loathed for decades so he can understand their thinking and develop counter arguments is a bad thing? They do represent a significant and dangerous element in the GOP. You need to understand their perspective. Where did you get the idea that this NYC multi billionaire maverick alpha male would be swayed from his life long core beliefs by these guys? It’s laughable to those of us who have followed him closely since the 1970s.

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    • babethebeagle says:

      I’m have no reason to believe this Cernovich guy. Gen. McMasters is not a globalist in any sense of the word. Take time to read his book, “Dereliction of Duty.” How much courage did that take for a man whose commission depends on the pleasure of the President to write a book criticizing the establishment?

      He proved himself an exceptional General during the Iraq war, yet he was not promoted under Bush. The fact that his career survived despite openly criticizing the system is remarkable, and a testament to the fact that he is a brilliant, albeit unconventional leader.

      Trump knows this. Why do you think he chose him as his NSA? It’s very strange that suddenly, a group of independent reporters are accusing Trump and McMasters of being globalists. From what I understand there is money changing hands. Cernovich, a multimillionaire, has reportedly given money to Posobiec and Baked Alaska. Why? Two other players, Cassandra Fairbanks who works for Sputnik, and Lee Stranahan seem to have some kind of relationship. Isn’t that a bit odd? Seriously! Breitbart, and the Russians? I’m not saying these people aren’t printing what they believe to be true, but most of it is innuendo. Why, all of a sudden, do they trust ISIS or Al Qaeda more than Trump? We all know that Soros has spent an enormous amount of money trying to stop Trump. Then there is Jeff Bezos and others who stand to gain by keeping control of US trade and immigration policies. Lots of money is being spent against Trump and those who support him.

      Something very weird is going on. I don’t know what is causing this phenomenon, but I don’t like being played. I have no good reason to trust these individuals over Donald Trump. Trump is the man that has given up so much just to be President. Why would he even want to take the financial loses and all the abuse unless he really felt he had to save this country against globalism?

      I’m not the smartest person, and I have no inside sources. Just like many of you, I prayed and prayed before I decided how to cast this ballot. I don’t believe God is into politics, but throughout the Bible He punishes people by giving them fools for leaders, and I must wonder if that may be one reason this country has had Bushes, Clintons, and Obama ruling us for the last few decades.

      I’m from Kansas, and most people I know voted for Ted Cruz, including Mom and my husband. At first, I was looking at Ted, too, but I quietly voted for Trump in the primaries. The more I read about Trump, the more attracted I became to the idea that he may be the only candidate that was running simply because he loves this country.

      He’s not the most eloquent speaker, but he comes across as saying what he means, not just reciting some flowery words written by a speech writer. The news doesn’t tell us all this man has accomplished so far. It’s amazing, considering he’s almost on his own bucking an establishment Congress and Senate as well as activist judges trying to thwart him at every turn. He lobs some missiles at a Syrian airfield, and all these so called supporters are accusing him of being a sellout, liar, or both! I’m not buying it.

      Sorry about the long rant. I’ll go back to my praying. Thank you all for your insightful posts. It is my belief that something very good is happening here at CTF.

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      • 2x4x8 says:

        sharing is opinion, being a watchman on the wall, and i have expectation the wall will be built

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      • Dixie says:

        Thank you for that rant. Well said. You pretty much summed up my experience except I was a supporter of Trump from the very beginning. I sensed his sincerity and love of this country from day one, although I admit I considered at one time that Cruz would make a good vice president.

        As far as this Syria mess is concerned, I’m waiting to see how it all plays out but will not desert President Trump. I will remain a supporter until he proves me wrong, which has not happened yet.

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    • The Raven says:

      It’s nice to want…unfortunately, for McMasters, he can want all he wants. There are 150k combat ready troops to be had.

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    • Benson II says:

      So some guy says McMaster is manipulating intelligence reports to Trump and we’re supposed to get all upset and wonder if Trump is going to war. I guess this means no one else is giving Trump intelligence and Trump only listens to one person. Sorry but this is very very lame.

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    • V.Lombardi says:

      I am a conservative and thus far still a Trump supporter. This article is nothing but highly refined sophistry.

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  4. Totally Domestic says:

    Ok, so we are back in the business of flipping ME countries. And just who will be the new leader of Syria?
    Inquiring minds wants to know.

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  5. This is all well and good….and a great story with lots of logic…but someone has to explain Trump Hiring Kevin Hassett….
    This is now not what he promised…

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  6. jupitercomm says:

    It’s not really peak troll hours & on a spot check I don’t see many shill-y posts.I think most the comments are sincere

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  7. MVW says:

    There is no fixing the ME. One tribe of demons substituted for another. ‘The good demons vs the bad demons’ what a crock.

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    • truthseekerr says:

      That is what scares a lot of us. I’m starting to think trump wants oil and why was kushner in bagdad a few days prior.

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      • cozette says:

        Of course Trump wants oil or more broadly energy. That’s why he’s pushing so hard for America to become energy independent. Our economy and security depend on that independence.

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      • missmarple2 says:

        During the Wikileaks email releases, then-candidate Donald Trump was asked about cyber security. H e said no email was safe. Then he said this:

        “If you have something important to say, write in on a piece of paper and send it by courier.”

        Jared was functioning as a courier. I think there are others who do so as well.

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    • cozette says:

      It depends on how you define fix.

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    • mikeyboo says:

      And that is the dilemma Pres Trump must face. I am sure he is keenly aware of it and doing everything possible to safeguard American interests in a set of very difficult circumstances. I don’t believe he is at all oblivious to the pitfalls of the Middle East.

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  8. jello333 says:

    I doubt anyone knows the answer to this, but I’ll ask anyway:

    Is there any person (or type of person) who the Syrian people (the decent ones I mean) would want as a leader… and who would also be a person that Putin would be satisfied with being in charge? I mean, I doubt very much Vlad is in love with Assad; but rather he feels that that guy is currently best able to further Russia’s self-interests… the key word being “currently”. So is there a way to convince Putin that a new, non-maniacal, popular Syrian leader could still work well with Russia?

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    • jello333 says:

      And yes I know about the idea of “regional” leaders in various parts of Syria… if that’s the goal, could THAT work (as far as Putin is concerned)?

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    • jupitercomm says:

      Idk maybe he has a general or something? These middle eastern clans work in dynasties

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    • jello333 says:

      (Since another thought popped into my head, I shall reply to myself once again! 😉 )

      In some ways, Putin is no different than most US presidents have been: If they find it in their own self-interest to back a horrible “ruler” of this or that country, they won’t hesitate to do that. What Vlad needs, I think, is some assurance that if he loses his horrible “ruler”, things won’t go down the tubes (for Russia).

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    • cozette says:

      Of course Trump wants oil or more broadly energy. That’s why he’s pushing so hard for America to become energy independent. Our economy and security depend on that independence.

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    • Deplorable Alpha Vulgarian says:

      Wouldn’t matter WHO their next leader is… they are all low IQ and the region will remain a dump regardless of the leader… like it always has.

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    • 2x4x8 says:

      the Godfather needs a War Time Consigliere

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    • dayallaxeded says:

      If they won’t sign on to a post WWII Japan-style reboot, forget them and let them immolate themselves. It should be evident from ‘gannystan and Irritataq that a pisslamic/dia-sharia goobermint can’t be allowed. The local governorships could provide good bases for representative democracy, but we’ll have to see if there is any intelligence (in the traditional, not “spy” sense) among the people that will allow smarter choices to be made.

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  9. Assad and the fallacy of protecting Christins. Not sure author is credible but very good read.
    http://orient-news.net/en/news_show/115454/0/Assad-and-the-fallacy-of-protecting-Christians

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    • Timmy-the-Ute says:

      You ever wonder why there are so few Christian refugees. It is because the Christians are really hostages. Assad knows as long as there are Christians in his country, and he is their only protection the West can’t touch him.

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  10. truthseekerr says:

    Did israel airstrike syria on march 17, 2017? This area is rich in oil and resources? The area trump bombed is like 50 miles from israel right?

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  11. Ghostrider says:

    Sundance, allow me to say I enjoyed reading your post, it was well researched and structured and confirms a lot of what I have been thinking. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I stand with President Trump, I trust President Trump and I believe in him and believe he will keep his promises about not deliberately or intentionally engaging the USA in another middle eastern war. I am also impressed with Nikki as she is performing admirably in her role for Trump. As for Tillerson, he is the best person to help Trump manage Putin. Russia’s economy is all about revenues derived from the sale of domestically produced oil and gas to the former USSR countries. Declining spot crude oil prices hurt Russia. The political solutions to stopping Putin in Syria also involve finding ways to hurt Russia’s exporting of oil and gas to EU countries. Trump might just be planning to become a supplier to Putin’s client base.

    For those who are critical or skeptical, so be it, they are entitled to their opinions, just as Trump supporters are. Here is the thing: none of us have access to classified intelligence and military planning information. Only speculation and other stuff written by bloggers and opinion based journalists readily available on the internet.

    What I would like to see you define next are the reasons why Russia and Iran want to keep Assad in power? How exactly do they benefit from Assad staying in power, what’s in it for them?

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  12. Charlotte says:

    Finally conclusive proof of #FakeNewsMedia #bbcnews caught red handed faking Syrian chemical attack.

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  13. Left_at_Dunkirk says:

    Per LTG GENERAL McMaster (National Security Advisor) on 4/6/2017:

    “So I think what is critical is the President’s decision in response to this mass murder attack, but also in the context of all the previous attacks that have occurred — I think over 50 — I think it’s over 50 chemical attacks previously, post-2013, when the U.N. resolution went into effect”

    This effectively kills most any talk of false flag events – we have been tracking these attacks for years. Also shows that the Obama admin was all talk and no action – or just so busy using intel resources to spy on Trump that they missed the last three years of world events. Of course, the sad thing is that our side is so used to being lied to by the Obama admin that some folks’ initial reaction to any military intel is that it must be a lie. Well, Obama is gone and the military is still a overwhelmingly white-hat group, so let’s go with Trump and company being truthful. It also doesn’t help us that we have several outlets like the Savage Wiener and infowars who make their livings off of being contrarian and conspiratorial no matter the consequences, so there are many folks who aren’t paying attention as close as Sundance and thus are worked up over all manner of ill-informed opinion.

    source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/06/press-briefing-secretary-state-rex-tillerson-and-national-security

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    • jello333 says:

      Someone recently mentioned napalm. I just wanna say, in my opinion THAT should be in exactly the same “immoral” category as chemical weapons… and it has apparently been used in Syria too.

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  14. spaulj67 says:

    Let see we are over 20 trillion in debt and growing, with over half of our population on some form of government assistance, 65 million able bodied out of work, but what we really need to do in the first 100 days is to shed yet more blood and treasure in the ME while going to the brink with Russia?

    This is what is called a conservative position? This is what Trump campaigned on? War with Russia? I don’t remember that? I thought the plan was to stop trying to fix the ME and start fixing the US?

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    • Venus says:

      Your concern is:

      [ ] Not noted.
      [ ] Noted.
      [ ] Noted and re-noted.
      [X] Noted, re-posted and annotated.

      Thank you for your concern. Please visit us again at the Outrage Outlet (opening soon).
      The Concern Shop.

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    • Benson II says:

      Your every concern is being addresses weekly if not daily. All you need to do is go to the White House website. If you go back over the last 70 some days you’ll see exactly what he’s been addressing. It seems you aren’t going to websites that actually show and tell what Trump is doing and has already done.

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  15. Shiggz says:

    This Assad keeps Isis around to remain the lesser devil. Sounds very plausible. 1. How confident is this assertion? 2. How does this for in with Obama funding anti Assad forces?

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    • Shiggz says:

      Definetly share all the concern about another ME war against Russia and Syria. But so far as I’m aware he just bombed the airbase we believed the chemical attack was launched from.

      Doesn’t sound like trump has come pro invasion or pro regime change. Obviously a slippery slope. But a few missles at whoever did it or allowed it to happen is a far cry from Bush doctrine or Obama doctrine of arm Islamic radicals and topple stable regimes that aren’t genociding Coptic Christians.

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    • sundance says:

      Apply the scientific method to your inquiry:

      If Assad did not want to defeat ISIS what would he be doing different?

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  16. Left_at_Dunkirk says:

    Just hit send right after the BBC video posting. Remember, one fake news event doesn’t mean that our military is wrong. With the resources we have, these events are observed in real time in a top secret environment. Heck, we tracked the plane from take-off to ordinance drop to return to base. And it sounds like we’ve observed this exact mission about 50 times. Amb. Haley mentioned classified proof, and we should take her and the Trump team at their word.

    I also think the refugee return angle is a big one. Can the West, in good conscience, force the return of refugees when gas attacks are a regular, accepted event? Trump just cut off that excuse for not going home. Again, multiple positive results flowing from one action.

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  17. KevinH says:

    D: The deep state released the gas, framing Assad in hopes of dragging us into war in Syria.

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    • cozette says:

      And if the Deep State did false flag the gas attack to draw us into war they utterly failed. Trump did an extremely limited, tit for tat, strike. Planes gassed civilians. Those planes destroyed. Punishment meted out. Assad’s debt, phony or not, paid. Neocons now have their talking points for invasion and removal of Assad taken away. Assad remains. Russians and Syrians were notified because this wasn’t about war or inflicting loss of life. In fact, the air port has been repaired so Assad can use it to fight ISIS if that is his true desire. Finally, all eyes are on Syria now watching for false flag gas attacks. If the Deep State is responsible for this one they will have a MUCH harder time pulling it off again. This is all a very complicated business. Trump has inherited a global mess that affects our wealth and security. He has to be involved in cleaning that mess up. We created it. He will do so in the most pragmatic, cost effective way possible always keeping in mind his motto America First and his awareness that we are $20 trillion in debt.

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      • Maquis says:

        I like your style.

        You are dead on correct.

        Plus, Haley noted FIFTY such attacks in the past year or so. Fifty, and One, under the noses of the Russians? Really?

        Not Bloody likely.

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    • Maquis says:

      Through a kind of MIND CONTROL!

      Yahh, dat’s it.

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  18. winky says:

    I read a couple of comments regarding Mrs Rubio”s (Haley) support for Rubio and then Cruz. Wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that she was not legally entitled to be a governor and had a lot in common with the 2 UNNATURAL born citizens on the ticket.

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  19. pyromancer76 says:

    Sundance, do you have thoughts about how the gas and oil pipelines that go (are to go) through Syria play in the overall picture, especially the linking of “allies” of each proposed pipeline? There might be more than two.

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  20. UKExpat says:

    Russia will do everything they possibly can to keep Assad in power because he gives them what they really want a Naval Base in the Mediterranean from which to exert Russian power in the region. .

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    • cozette says:

      Russia issued a statement this week that their support of Assad was NOT unconditional. People would feel better if they read primary sources.

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    • Kaiser Roll says:

      There is nothing untoward about Russia maintaining a naval base in Tartus, this isn’t the same thing as the Cuban Missile Crisis.

      If Assad remains in power, or maybe he goes but the Baath Party dictatorship remains; Russia will gain numerous economic benefits as the country is rebuilt.

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  21. lfhbrave says:

    What if the Putin/Iran/Assad gang calls the U.S.’s bluff and does not change whatever plan they have in mind for ISIS and Assad? Does it mean we will have another war or continue the CIA-moderate rebel proxy war under the Trump administration? What is in it for America?
    1. Stop the refugees coming? POTUS can do that without risking another war.
    2. Stop the Muslim invasion of Europe? It is up to EU people if they want to commit suicide. or
    3. Help the new Egypt/Jordan/Saudi/Israel/some other ME countries achieve peace/save innocent children and civilians in the region, and by so doing eliminate WMD/potential threats to American homeland? That was precisely the announced justification for spending trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives for the past 20 some years.

    It seems a gamble that we won’t go down the same path.

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  22. Joe says:

    Russia’s priority is the destroy ISIS and similar organizations. They train fighters from the Moslem nations along Russia’s southern border. Russia also doesn’t want ISIS to spread to these places.

    Unless Washington wants to start the great Shite/Sunni war, Assad will leave when he wants to or when his political coalition wants him to.

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    • Kaiser Roll says:

      If you look back far enough, you can find evidence that the neocons here were loudly supporting the Chechen Islamists back before 9/11 made it politically uncomfortable.

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  23. woohoowee says:

    And did anyone ever stop to think re: Ivanka: Her father may think he still has much to teach her and she may think there is still much for her to learn from her father?

    Why all the spilled ink over Ivanka is beyond me.

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  24. FYI .. on one of the Sunday shows.. “”‘Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said the administration of President Donald Trump was “probably was partially to blame,” for the deadly chemical weapons attack in Syria.’
    JOHN MCCAIN .. and HILLARY and the rest of the NEOCONS and war profiteers will blame Trump for not attacking fast enough. telling you sooner or later they will impeach him for bombing without congressional approval . or accuse him of war crimes when one of the strikes hits a house full of kids. THE never ending saga continues.

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    • cozette says:

      Be unconcerned. The issues you raised aren’t grounds for impeachment. All this news cycle does is draw the neocons out in the open so we can identify their talking points.

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  25. cozette says:

    Sources please for your assertions otherwise your comments are political fiction. Fact, this Bannon, Kushner, Ivanka narrative is pure opposition psy ops manufactured by professionals to divide Trumps base and instill fears of betrayal. This is a CIA strategy called poison pilling. Fact two, Trump always shuffles his team. Trump decided that Bannon being required to attend the Principals meeting was average of time now that it is set up. He still attends. He still has security clearance. Three, as much as I love KT, her mentor is Kissinger. He was the first person she called when Trump placed her on the NSC. These are facts, not speculation.

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    • cozette says:

      I hate auto correct. Bannon being required to attend the Principles meetings now that it’s set up is now a waste of Bannons time. Trumps call. Makes sense to me BTW.

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  26. cozette says:

    Please share who your contacts are in Japan and South Korea that make you so sure. Have they published these opinions so we can read them too or is your certainty based on private conversations with top players in the region?

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  27. Blade says:

    First, I gotta say this is very well written, organized like a good coder would do so I imagine at least one of the Sundances is/was a programmer at some point, and who did one heck of a job commenting his/her source. I love sequential logic and the scientific method and deductive reasoning and common sense which are fast becoming lost arts judging by what I see out here these days, e.g., global warming and horrific webpage garbage.

    Having said that ( you just knew that was coming ) I don’t know how you can enumerate all these possibilities and leave out the 800 pound gorilla in the room, the possible pipelines and globalist plans for Syria and ultimately, Russia. As I asked in another thread, the question that everyone should be considering now, before it happens is … What if all the parties: USA neocon warmongers, EUroweenies, King Yabadabado from Saudi Arabia, King Jordan, the Pharaoh of Egypt, and Bibi Netanyahu, arrived at this kind of deal: Sure, we’ll do this grand plan if you promise to carve up Syria and give us a chunk for pipelines? Is that okay? Its a moral question. And it is a legal question as well since we zero justification to set foot there or use the resources of the federal government to facilitate any such idea. Reagan and previous Presidents had the Monroe Doctrine to thwart invasion of this hemisphere, THIS hemisphere, we got nothing for over there.

    Anyway, carving up Syria would be the ultimate globalist dream scenario and must NEVER be allowed to happen. Not just because it is precisely why we backed anti-neocon anti-globalist Trump, not just because it clearly is provocative and threatens Russia, but because it helps subsidize the EUroweenies global warming hoax. Let them die in the cold with their carbon tax and shuttered nuke and coal plants rather than disguise the failure using stopgap “clean” gas shipped over land they are taking through geopolitical eminent domain. Here’s another interesting question. What are the chances that King Jordan was there to offer to finally slice off TransJordan territory for Palestine as originally planned post World War I ? Or was it the more likely scenario that he was there to block any such possibility?

    I can easily see a Versailles redux in the making sans all the nice tophats. They have practically said it out loud and it even sounds to me this is intriguing to Sundance and some others as an appropriate function of the government. And while its true we are far better off with a Donald J. Trump sitting there than Woodrow Wilson, the thing was never ratified by the Senate for good reason, there is nothing remotely Constitutional about any of these real or imagined globalist plans [ man I really wish that Madison had made the treaty ratification clause steeper, maybe 100%! ].

    Again, this article. Nothing about the pipelines and Russia. If you zoom out of these trees we are stuck in and look back a bit, I see the collapse of the USSR around 1990 and then our immediate pivot to NAFTA and then 100% China-centric policy in 1993, giving away everything from jobs to cash, while poor Russia, the first actual victim of Communism is left to learn how to convert to modern western values almost by itself. Fast forward a decade and China has taken away most of everything, Russia stagnates, and Islamic terrorists from Saudi Arabia ( not Russia, not Syria ) take down the WTC and part of the Pentagon. Now this part is important. Rather than really declaring war on radical Islam, the deep state and MIC and NATO kept singular focus on the Ruskies as if they were still trying to conquer the world ( they never were, it was the USSR for those who were not yet alive yet ). This allowed them to keep the massive money spigot turned on and grow the surveillance state while making believe they were eradicating terrorism. We’ll leave the creeping Jihad out of it for now.

    Now they really want to up the ante, and economically strangle Russia ( and presumably its 150+ million people ) to tame the evil bear and keep us safe from something or another, but actually it is to grab commodity and financial markets where they compete with us. Beneficiaries of course are the EUroweenies and all the weak Arab states whom our Constitution says ( in invisible ink ) we are meant to serve and protect as mercenaries. This economic warfare is very dangerous and destabilizing and was done to Imperial Japan by Europe and FDR ( just reverse producer and consumer ) and by OPEC to us. It never really helps the target of the warfare, it hurts them and sometimes leads to war. If Russia is truly dependent on their oil and gas trade down there then this is a very provocative and potentially dangerous idea. I for one, have no problem believing this is the main purpose of all the neocons and globalists before Assad/Syria, and Today. Probably been on the official neocon globalist drawing board for over a decade now.

    I’m way too long here, but how can we possibly connect all these dots but leave this crucial variable out of the save-the-world algorithm? This is why Russia is down there in Syria and vicinity, this is why the globalists are too. Remember that these globalists are going after supply *and* demand here with fossil fuels, wanting to control supply into Europe and beyond, and impose a carbon tax on everyone to regulate demand. This is a new and improved Oil for Food expanded globally and must be stopped. The NWO types never will have enough money, at least not until they outlaw it for us lowly proles once their fortified bunkers and mansions are complete. Without any consideration of Assad’s character, or Putin, I think we should just say no to touching Syria. If it hurts the globalists, it is good for us. IMHO.

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    • ZZZ says:

      Cui Bono ?

      that’s the question

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    • Deplorable Ukie says:

      ‘…and economically strangle Russia ( and presumably its 150+ million people )…’

      ‘Knowingly or unknowingly, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton presided over the modernization and advance of Russian military, including nuclear, and intelligence capabilities. They did this through their “reset” with Russian which included massive technology transfers from the US and wider West through the establishment of the Kremlin’s Skolkovo “Silicon Valley” project.’

      http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3507/Ka-Boom-Putin-Barack-and-Hillarys-Skolkovo.aspx

      Don’t forget about that Clinton Foundation received $145 million in donations before Hillary approved the purchase of Uranium 1 by Russia’s energy agency Rosatom (transferring 20% of U.S. uranium).

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      • Deplorable Ukie says:

        ‘First of all, Tehran rushed to buy Russian cars and equipment – buses, trucks, airplanes, as well as equipment for servicing airfields. Moreover, some of the products Iranians expect to pay not with live money, but with black gold. Within the framework of the new stage of the oil-for-goods program, Russia can annually receive about 5 million tons of Iranian oil

        However, the most interesting part of the proposals brought by Hasan Ruhani concerns the participation of Russian companies in the development of 11 Iranian oil and gas fields. The potential of such transactions is estimated at 20 billion rubles.’

        https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.mk.ru/politics/2017/03/28/glava-irana-rukhani-privez-putinu-neftyanoe-predlozhenie-na-milliardy.html&prev=search

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      • Blade says:

        Yep, lots of corrupt cronyism from our own corrupt cronies at a time when eastern Europe needed guidance and advice to help your new post-Soviet freedom. I would apologize to you and Russia and all the rest for Bush41 and Clinton and Bush43 and Obama but it would be meaningless at this point. They never should have been allowed near the White House. We hate them far more than any of you hate them. Believe me.

        We’re sitting here just months shy of the 100th anniversary of the problem when Russia became the first victim of Communism thanks to Europe and specifically Germany. Let’s dedicate this year to remember what happens when the western European powers meddle with the east and the enormous consequences it had on every square inch of the planet.

        Let’s also laugh at the irony that the collapse of the USSR left our (D)emocrat party as the last remaining stronghold of Communism ( well along with many of the European parties as well ). A New New-World-Order should be established to eradicate them.

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        • Deplorable Ukie says:

          I voted for President Trump twice: in the primary and in the general election. I have a doubt that you really are a vampire hunter. :))
          And cronyism is not endemic to the western world.

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    • sundance says:

      Remove the pipeline assumption from your entire premise and what does that leave you?

      Now, go look for the origin of the pipeline story. The actual origin. Not some guys interpretation of what he conjectured to be a possibility based on a novel written to fit into a conspiracy… etc… go look for the origin.

      ps. Just like the pipeline conspiracy theorem – there are not multiple “sundances”. Sundance is one person, me.

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      • Blade says:

        Remove the pipeline assumption from your entire premise and what does that leave you? … Now, go look for the origin of the pipeline story. The actual origin. Not some guys interpretation of what he conjectured to be a possibility based on a novel written to fit into a conspiracy… etc… go look for the origin.

        What is most interesting is that in either case, “EU pipeline dreams”, or “pipeline is a hoax” both lead to the same solution … Hands off Syria … If its a hoax, then it is a very easy call. Europe has much less to lose without a fictitious new pipeline and the Arabs have less vested interest economically. However, that leaves them all inexplicably interested in Syria, and as money/oil/gas is the root of pretty much everything over there ( besides religion ) can you really summarily rule this out? Is all the talk of trans-Syrian pipelines really a hoax? I know this amounts to an unfair proving a negative but at this point we need lots of links to serious articles disproving the theory now as it has momentum, and is believable and fits the history of the globalists and neocons. They get no benefit of the doubt from me anymore. Not a microsecond. You may ( or may not, I wouldn’t blame you ) do an article about the pipeline theory itself if you have seen information. I’m sure the comments will be legendary. But we all need to know the truth.

        And it still leaves my basic question unanswered. What if USA/EU/Saudi/Jordan/Egypt/Israel actually do say: Sure, we’ll do this grand plan if you promise to carve up Syria and give us a chunk for pipelines? And if pipelines is a variable and we substitute anything else still makes it a moral question. And it is a huge geopolitical question. Versailles, Germany/Weimar, Ottoman, this is very serious business, It would be nice to walk in to these meetings and place TransJordan right square on that table too. Wouldn’t it? And don’t get me started on Saudi Arabia again.

        ps. Just like the pipeline conspiracy theorem – there are not multiple “sundances”. Sundance is one person, me.

        Thanks for clarifying that. You obviously realize these theories pop up with the lack of hard information, and you must be laughing yourself silly reading them while everyone speculates. I guess it was a couple of wildly differing posts that got me thinking. Thanks again.

        Despite the recent vitriol most everyone highly respects your opinions and I respect your methodical approach. We need a lot more off it. You are Red Pill Central in my opinion. And anyone who can displace Levin and Rush for lots of conservatives is doing amazing work.

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  28. ZZZ says:

    Point Five…accomplish the agenda of Russia and Iran…

    What is the agenda? The short term agenda of keeping Assad in power or the long term agenda of…what?

    Personally, this all smacks pf regime change and there was so much hope we would not be entangled with this evil with PDJT. I can see no agenda where we care what Syria does…not to the extent this is going…the cost on every front is immoral and unsustainable.

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  29. Jeff says:

    ” All of the actions taken by Russia, Iran and the Syrian Government are specifically focused on keeping Bashir Assad in power..”

    The Saudi’s thought they had purchased the 45th president . Hillary lost a RIGGED election because of the MONSTER VOTE !!

    Europe is a “YUGE ” consumer of oil and gas . Competition to build a new pipeline to the Syrian coast WAS between Saudi Arabia -USA ( Obama McCain Hillary Graham …suspects ) vs Russia -Iran . Had Hillary won her rigged election she would have committed boots on the ground to take out Assad at the behest of her Saudi financiers .

    A president Clinton 45 would have installed a puppet regime and US TROOPS would become the security force while the pipeline was built from Qatar to the Syrian coast . Iran and Russia would be out of the competition unless they wanted WWIII to commence .

    The Clinton’s are addicted to CASH and aren’t afraid of treason or sedition as the ENEMEDIA is their praetorian guard .

    President Trump , I suspect , pointed out to Qatar that it is the USA that protects Saudi Arabia FROM IRAN . And they decided to pony up to pay for the SAFE ZONE in Syria . The SAFE ZONE being the ultimate goal of Egypt , Jordan and the USA under new AMERICAN MANAGEMENT now .

    Even the commie media will have a hard time spinning President Trump sending Syrian’s home to a stable SAFE ZONE . With the global community largely behind his missile attack that momentum carries Egypt and Jordan to participate in the overseeing of the SAFE ZONE .

    With the chemical weapons destroyed ” for REALS ” and not lip service destroyed as in Kerry Rice blabbery . Egypt’s al-Sisi has his assurances for his military to proceed with the SAFE ZONE .

    From the reporting by SUNDANCE and what the players actually said the SAFE ZONE seems to be the ultimate end game by president Trump and the coalition he has put together .

    My best guess too is that the MEDIA will at some point begin to declare that Trump is going for the Syrian oil for himself .

    Imagine the cheers in the Syrian SAFE ZONE as the Commander in Chief lands with a military contingent for a surprise visit . The SYRIAN cheers for president Trump will rival any of his campaign rallies !!

    Of course the ENEMEDIA will not show the crowd and likely claim he went there to “grab some Syrian _______ ” well , you fill in the blank there !!

    It’s all about who gets to set up the gas station to Europe !!

    https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17884248_1113891408722616_3465681287924574207_n.jpg?oh=c9a9e79dbf3dbf5d5be3921b1c9a825b&oe=598DC4C1

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  30. Kaiser Roll says:

    I understand that many here are uncomfortable with Cernovich, but why exactly is anyone not paranoid about the influence of the neoconservatives? Invade/Invite is a recipe for electoral disaster

    The Iraq disaster threw the GOP out of Congress. If McCain, Graham, Kristol have their way, it would be WW3.

    We should fear more the power of the media to manufacture consent with its sad pictures of dead children (while never mentioning ongoing anti-white violence in South Africa).

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  31. Rob says:

    “The alliance knows President Trump has no intention of engaging U.S. forces in another mid-east war.”

    Given what’s been reported about McMaster, et al, I have to wonder if the alliance “knows” this, or has been told something very different in private.

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  32. Trumped says:

    Looking at the map there is almost Zero Option to do more vs. ISIS for assad

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  33. Glenn Stehle says:

    I agree.

    I do not see where involving the United States in yet one more multi-trillion dollar quagmire in Syria — like we’ve done in Afghanistan, Iraq or Vietnam — will “make America great again.”

    And for what reason? So Egypt, the Gulf States and Israel can have a less expensive way (land-based pipelines) to transport their vast natural gas reserves to the European market?

    It all becomes even more puzzling when we consider that the domestic U.S. natural gas industry also wants to export natural gas to the European market. Why does Trump believe it is good idea to expend US blood, treasure and moral capital in order to help those who want to compete with US domestic natural gas producers?

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    • Glenn Stehle says:

      EIA: LNG exports expected to drive growth in U.S. natural gas trade
      http://www.worldoil.com/news/2017/2/24/eia-lng-exports-expected-to-drive-growth-in-us-natural-gas-trade

      The Sabine Pass facility in Louisiana became the first operating LNG export facility in the Lower 48 states in 2016. By 2021, four LNG export facilities currently under construction are expected to be completed. Combined, these five plants are expected to have an operational export capacity of 9.2 Bcfgd…..

      The growth of natural gas exports, especially from new LNG terminals, sustains continued growth in U.S. natural gas production. In the Reference case, natural gas production is projected to grow through 2020 at about the same rate (3.6% annual average) as it has since 2005, when production of natural gas from shale formations began to grow rapidly.

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  34. shadowcole says:

    I have to admit I was caught off guard by the bombing of Syria, I wasn’t happy about it but since it’s been a few days and after reading here and talking about it with my husband, I have decided to continue praying for this to work out. It’s out of my hands and all I can do is pray that God continues to bless Trump with the best and most trusted people in his inner circle.

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  35. Robert Agard says:

    Sundance, Congratulations on your blog! One question: Why do you call her Mrs. Rubio?

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