Breitbart Releases Paul Ryan Audio: “I Am Not Going To Defend Trump – Not Now, Not In The Future”…

Well, it would appear our hunch was correct.

If Trump was going to pull off a “reverse Castellano’s“, Caesar needed Brutus to feel comfortable enough to come close…

The problem for Speaker Ryan was a lack of muti-dimensional situational awareness, and the abject inability to escape President Trump’s political gravity.  Breitbart Media, with transparent coordination between Matthew Boyle, Steve Bannon and President Trump delivers the shiv right on cue.

(Breitbart) On a never-before-released private October conference call with House Republican members, House Speaker Paul Ryan told his members in the U.S. House of Representatives he was abandoning then-GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump forever and would never defend him ever again. (read more)

Here’s what everyone needs to understand about this play:

February 27th, 2017 – President Trump and Matthew Boyle

♦ First, the release is from Breitbart via Matthew Boyle; and contains all of the elements needed for well played political plausible deniability.

♦ Second, it was transparent this was coming.   The “Reverse Castellano’s” play only works if the mark (Ryan) feels over confident about their position.  It takes months for Caesar to cultivate the false confidence within Brutus; giving the appearance that Caesar depends on him.

Caesar Trump knows he must publicly shower Brutus Ryan with praise so the audience can provide the authentic fuel needed for Brutus to overcome any internal trepidation.  Caesar Trump needs Brutus Ryan to feel empowered and emboldened.

Only when Brutus thinks his travels are inconsequential, can he be counted on to drop his guard and believe his schemes and associations are undetected.

♦ Third, timing.  On the eve of President Trump meeting with the Freedom Caucus, led by Jim Jordan, the face of Ryan’s antagonism and opposition, Team Trump – Bannon via Boyle, delivers the Brutus knee-capping that will drive the media discussion cycle.

As Brutus walks comfortably through the courtyard, dagger in hand, the trillion-power spotlights all simultaneously turn on and reveal his intent.  The entire Senate quietly notified and previously pre-staged to watch as the reveal takes place….

Yes, President Trump has allowed Paul Ryan to construct and carry the healthcare scroll; however, he also planned to leverage a change within it.  Thus, Tom Donohue (CoC) and the Koch Brother’s invisible ink signatures can now easily be removed from the document and modifications made forthwith.

Brilliant.

To the electorate President Trump has magnanimously set all differences aside and taken the high road in his -very visible and public- praise of Ryan as the Speaker created the Healthcare proposal they both needed.

Now, with the release of his audio, the electorate look angrily toward Ryan who has verbally shown his snakeskin.

Speaker Ryan is now less than.  He’s lost a necessary coalition, support and friends.   For a time he now becomes toxic even for those of similar skin who scheme quietly with him.

Ryan should have seen this coming.  But, pride.

The reverse castellano’s is a modified version of the same play previously carried out on Senator Ted Cruz at the GOP convention.

Candidate Trump knew prideful Cruz was not going to endorse him; and Trump knew defeated candidate Cruz was going to try virtue signaling for prideful political benefit.  Trump also knew, as any top level executive chess-master does, the approach by a prideful Cruz would backfire against the largest possible political audience…. so he let him walk right into the coliseum and do it.

Effective today, President Trump not only holds positional leverage, but he carries something more valuable – emotional political leverage.

Today President Trump will take the high road and praise Speaker Paul Ryan yet again; telling the audience to drop old grudges, there are more important tasks at hand… we must remove the lumps from our political hearts.

President Trump will grant Speaker Ryan forgiveness and the crowd shall cheer Trump’s decency and warmth.

Magnanimity becomes currency.  The exchange rate is determined by the electorate.  The purchase price is within the Healthcare bill.

Well played President Trump.  Well played….

…”Complicated business folks, …complicated business.”

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725 Responses to Breitbart Releases Paul Ryan Audio: “I Am Not Going To Defend Trump – Not Now, Not In The Future”…

  1. milktrader says:

    I haven’t sorted out if Ryan’s plan is the way to go or not yet, but what I have seen is how completely insipid and utterly incompetent Ryan is as a leader. What a joke he is. He should resign immediately as Leader and as a congressman in disgrace.

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    • Bull Durham says:

      Paul Ryan is a Wisconsin bean counter. He isn’t smart. He has no charisma. When he ran for VP he could not attract flies. He lost his own district in the GE in 2012 as VP.

      He is a tool, a puppet of others. He has had his great moment in history. He lacks all the qualities of a future President to which he aspires and for which the globalists have offered him.

      However, he does not decide his future. He is now putty for Trump to mold and use.

      If he bolts, he ignites a revolt and he will be forced out. He also has a quality few see beyond his ego. Ryan is a quitter. He is not made of strong stuff. He cannot take the heat.
      He will fold if the Caucus raises the heat.

      Bean counters like to put on the green visor and count beans. They ain’t leaders.

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      • Carolina Kat says:

        Best assessment of Paul Ryan I’ve read. Yes, this is very much the weak-kneed Ryan. He married a purse a la John Kerry or John McCain and has a very liberal wife. He’s easily bought – had no compassion on those in his own hometown who forfeited jobs due to his trade and immigration policies – but does not have the nerve to be honest about where he stands and defend his positions. Rather he says one thing and does another. A professional traitor.

        The only ones fooled by Speaker Ryan now are those who don’t know him.

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      • Mickey Wasp says:

        “Ryan is a quitter” and scared of his own shadow.
        I remember during the recent primary season several Angel Moms went to Ryan’s residence, after he made the “that’s not who we are” statement about illegal aliens, and requested an audience with him … He snuck out the side door of his Wisconsin home and jumped into his security detail entourage and left quickly.

        Soon after candidate Trump had the Angel Moms at a campaign rally and even with him during some sit-down interviews …

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      • redlegleader68 says:

        I know I’ve said it before, Bull, but you do have a way with words:

        “When he ran for VP he could not attract flies.” 🙂

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      • navnek says:

        I am quite sure that Ryan has both a brain and a backbone, though he does his best to hide both. His ASHA is a joke and a bad one, keeping most of the bad that is BarryCare. I have for about a decade tried to educate WI CD 1 voters as to the duplicity of this man, and his very poor voting record, and yet, St. Paul of Janesville has at least until now, walked on water politically. Maybe current events will take their toll on him, politically, but the TRUE BELIEVERS in WI CD 1 will likely re-elect him again, in 2018. Sad.

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        • Oldschool says:

          Exactly. Doubtful if anyone on this site is surprised. Not really a new revelation. Ryan was quite public with his feelings on Trump. Even when forced to support him, he never did so whole heartedly. As you say navnek, likely he would be re elected tomorrow.

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        • free2313 says:

          Paul Nehlen has been waiting in the wings and is ready to replace Paul Ryan if he is Cantored in 2018… @pnehlen

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        • Founding Fathers Fan says:

          Ryan ran against a conservative in his last two primaries but won those primaries with low voter turnouts. There was less than15% this last time, down from less than 19% the previous primary. Why won’t Wisconsin District 1 conservatives rally together and vote him out in the primary? Should we presume that there are not really very many conservatives in District 1?

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          • Walt says:

            election fraud???

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          • Diebold election fraud system.

            The only time their guy doesn’t win is if they screw up the cheating counts, like in Hillary vs Trump election. From what I hear the White Hats stopped it after Hillary was sweeping her way through the states cheating. Other than that THEY choose who gets in. Example: JOHN MCCAIN. No one votes for him and he doesn’t even bother to campaign, yet he is installed each and every election.

            WAKE UP PEOPLE. You have never voted in an honest election for decades. If you believe we do then I am sorry you are lost and complicit in your own enslavement.

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        • dayallaxeded says:

          Had Paul Nehlen had more time and $ support, he could have taken down Ryan. The need to protect the GOP majority and attempts to triangulate with GOPe by Trump made the WI Nehlen/Ryan race unwinnable for Nehlen. That shouldn’t be the case next time ’round. Two years of PDJT WINNING and exposing Ryan’s duplicity at every turn should swing wide open both doors for Nehlen or a similarly qualified “true” conservative/strict-construction constitutionalist.

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      • Bill Wright says:

        Don’t kid yourself – Paul Ryan is very smart. The way Congress works is that members are given fundraising goals. Those who exceed those goals are given chairmanships, and you move up. Politics is both an individual endeavor and a team sport. If you don’t play as a team, the other side will, and you will lose. By the way, this is one reason the United States loses in “free trade” – the other side(s) play as a team while our corporations do not.

        At any rate, Paul Ryan was a very successful fundraiser and he moved up, eventually claiming the top prize. The system produces leadership on both sides that most effectively squeeze the K Street oranges. RyanCare (i.e.- K StreetCare) is a glimpse into what a Romney presidency would have looked like. Quite frankly, all insider presidencies would look like this, that is why nothing changes.

        The real question is whether or not the Freedom Caucus types can deliver a FeedomCare healthcare bill. Can they give an articulate PowerPoint presentation, and how will the CBO score their bill. The negotiations are beginning. We shall see if the president is as skilled as he has claimed. For all our sakes, I hope he is.

        Viva la Trump!

        Paying for congressional chairmanships:
        http://www.militaryvotescount.com/2016/03/16/neo-fascism-its-all-the-rage-2/

        A simple alternative to ObamaCare:
        http://www.militaryvotescount.com/2017/02/15/a-proposed-alternative-to-obamacare/

        Is there a law that fixes everything:
        http://www.militaryvotescount.com/2016/07/05/is-there-a-law-that-fixes-everything/

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        • Stringy theory says:

          So far the Freedom Caucus has only delivered two things: Ryan as Speaker and lots of whining.

          Liked by 7 people

        • lfhbrave says:

          It seems one important criterion for being selected by CoC or donors’ class is smart enough to be bought and understand the direction given but not smart enough to be himself. Ryan, McConnell, Bush I & II, and Obama all fit the bill.

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        • vikingmom says:

          This alternative plan is so simple and so reasonable. Unfortunately, it puts people in charge of their own health and finances, which is REALLY REALLY hard! /sarc It also cuts out all the lobbyists and CEOs who have gotten rich off of the current broken system, so our well paid-off Congress critters will never even consider it! 😥

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        • singingsoul says:

          Bill Wright “Paul Ryan is very smart. The way Congress works is that members are given fundraising goals. Those who exceed those goals are given chairmanships, and you move up.”
          ————————–

          What you are saying is the person who allows themselves be bought and is successful as being a commodity become speaker..? Ryan is bought and paid for by big donors. Great what an achievement.(s

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          • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

            There is a difference between smart and corrupt. Anyone who is bought and does his buyer’s bidding is corrupt. This is why I would put in place Draconian term limits.

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      • Gail says:

        “he could not attract flies” So funny!!!

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        • Paco Loco says:

          He has attracted a lot of campaign contributions from the K Street lobbiests. That’s probably all he really cares about is filling his campaign coffers.

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      • Gail says:

        I think his greatest moment may have just been driving the Weinermobile!

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      • Curry Worsham says:

        Like so many others, he sold his soul to the GOPe upon arrival in Congress. They own him.
        Nobody owns Trump’s soul.

        Liked by 5 people

      • kerri says:

        Even his major which was economics and political science gave him no real background in actual accounting and finance. Just the big picture baloney. As an accredited bean counter myself that has always infuriated me.

        He comes up with budgets that never work and have costs in excess of income by the trillions, and we are suppose to think he has a clue. He doesn’t even keep the loser promises he makes. Since he has only been in gov’n, he thinks of himself as a real star.

        And his insider deals to amass a millions in the stock market.

        In the real world, wouldn’t he along with most congressmen face charges.

        When he mentions his “better way” agenda, it makes me sick. Is there anything more alinsky like on the right. Better way to debt in the 100’s of trillions more like.

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      • Mark Matis says:

        Paul Ryan is a Rove Republican, and has all the character traits associated with that genre:
        No morals.
        No scruples.
        No principles.
        No honor.

        One World Government aficionado, through and through. THAT is all one needs to know about Lyin’ Ryan and Post Turtle and Grahamnesty and Songbird McShame and Little Marco and the rest.

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      • Bull Durham is right, but he is much too kind.

        Paul Ryan is more than a shill, he is guilty of sharing in millions of dollars from keeping the Southern Border open for drugs to pour in, child/guns/drug trafficking and more. He never does anything about it. He covers up pedophilia in high places and he is part of the cabal that has been enslaving Americans for decades. He also answers to CIA George Herbert Walker Bush.

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    • Big Jake says:

      Ryan couldn’t lead a Pack of Cub Scouts. Totally uninspiring. Weak.

      Liked by 10 people

      • Alexsandra says:

        And recall that he announced at the onset that he only wanted to lead as Speaker if he has his weekends and other family time free. Stage 2 is Trump having him work as Trump himself and others do. Ryan himself will implode at that.

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    • Yankee Lawyer says:

      Remember when the GOPe was pushing this guy to replace Trump? Would have been an annihilation. Ryan can’t play on the big stage.

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  2. SeekerOfTruth says:

    If you really listen to the House Freedom Caucus, what are they really complaining about?
    1) The actual bill
    OR
    2) Not being allowed to be a full partner in the bill process.

    #2. Why? Ryan would not allow #2 He would not allow them to be a part of the process. Ryan always wants full control. Trump wants all to be a part of the process. Full inclusion.

    To compare.
    It is like a family Thanksgiving dinner. Many are invited but only a few have say on what is served and what is done. I may complain about the wine or complain about the desserts or offer something to bring. But in every case I am told. We got this. We do not need your help. (Actually do not want your help.)

    So what am I most angry about.
    1) The bad meal choices? or activities?
    OR
    2) That my voice and opinion was not allowed and meant nothing.

    #2 of course.
    It is all about who controls the power and inclusion and exclusion and not so much about the content sometimes.

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    • SeekerOfTruth says:

      So all meal I complain about the wine and the desserts, when really I am complaining about not being allowed to be part of the selection process.

      Sound familiar to what we are experiencing now?

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    • NYGuy54 says:

      I agree with that. Primarily because they (including the Freedom Caucus) voted and passed a prior version of this bill. The whole thing stinks and I am beginning to think the Freedom Caucus are a bunch of do nothing naysayers.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Carolina Kat says:

        They voted to support Ryan when Meadows could have been a true conservative leader. Tells us all we need to know about them.

        Liked by 7 people

        • NYGuy54 says:

          What has that got to do with where this bill is right now? This is essentially the same bill they voted on and passed last year. Including Meadows and that group. They did not have an objection back then.

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          • rf121 says:

            But they all new last year the bill was not going any where.

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            • NYGuy54 says:

              Why does this sound right to me?

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            • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

              We keep hearing about all the different GOP alternatives over the past few years. Now, zip. They never thought they’d really have to come up to scratch. The GOP doesn’t know how to govern. It’s been so long since they had to do it they’ve lost the institutional memory. You have ideas, you create and massage legislation and you pass it. They’ve lost this. No guts, no glory. This GOP is no guts.

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      • Joe Foster says:

        It should be pointed out the the bill that made its way to Obama’s desk was the one that was crafted as a bill all R’s would sign onto. The Freedom Caucus actually believed in the bill regardless of the fact that Obama would not sign it. Now that we have what the R’s kept telling us they needed in order to repeal Obama-care and replace it with a market driven solution there is no longer any excuse for playing footsie!

        The R’s now have the House, the Senate and the Presidency! Now, we also are getting the namby pamby excuses (Establishment/Rino inspired). So! I would have to say that the problem is not that the Freedom Caucus are a bunch of “do nothing naysayers” but rather it is the Establishment’s lack of testicular fortitude that is the real problem. The Establishment has no real leaders that mean what they say! They only say what it takes to get themselves elected one more time! That is definitely NOT leadership but rather the action of “do nothing, naysayers” who only have one excuse after the other for not doing what they promised. That my friend, is the unfortunate TRUTH!

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    • Chuck Finley says:

      My heart would bleed for them, but they voted to him make him speaker. They knew who he was, they knew they would get frozen out quite often, yet the voted for him.

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    • Well, actually, for me it is #1 and #2. Although, in the past family members who wanted to bring a special dish were more than welcomed. Otherwise – stay out of my kitchen.

      And yes, I’m Irish.

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  3. BiggBear says:

    I’m seeing very little about this on the news sites. Even Drudge is not showing it.

    Anybody know why?

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    • seventhndr says:

      It weakens the establishment, which is another way of saying it helps PDT.

      Just like they do not cover the Vault 7 leaks by any real measure.

      The uniparty globalists are in death throws. No more masks. You may find a couple of good eggs, but main stream media as a whole is pure propaganda.

      It has the useful idiots fully exposed too. Women and gays all marching for better treatment of the single largest hate group against them. Wimpy men fighting to import an aggresive bully culture. Can’t make it up.

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    • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

      Drudge’s links go 98% to establishment Fake News Inc. And the Fake Newsers would cut off their arms before they would give visibility to any righty news site.

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      • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

        Sorry, this is a reply to BiggBear below. This site is jumping all over for me…

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      • entagor says:

        I believe Drudge isn’t covering it because he is covering Trump’s back. The MSM is not going too far out on a limb either

        We are at the stage where the rattlesnake faces off with the mongoose and whoever you are rooting for, you don’t want to blow their concentration.

        Trump has not been too detailed about the Ryan offer either except to make nice.He is not showing his cards

        Now Breitbart has thrown down a card.

        From what I see, the WH is not working the public on what Ryan presented, because you can’t jerk the public around too much before they turn on you. It is put up or shut up.

        Neither side is trying to rouse public opinion. If this is a negotiation then at some point we don’t want winners and losers or we don’t get there.

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  4. BiggBear says:

    I’m seeing very little about this on the news sites. Even Drudge is not showing it.

    Anybody know why?

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    • Chuck Finley says:

      Because it was already known and it looks more and more like a leak from those who want to tank the Repeal/replace plan.

      There are a faction of Trump supporters who think Trump isn’t driving this 3 stage plan and that he can be made to scrap it. Those in the “ultra-conservative” wing are trying to stoke these fires with this leak.

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      • Joe Foster says:

        Oh! Those “wascally” Conservatives!

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      • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

        Even my hubby and I disagree on this one. I’m just plain against Ryancare 2.0 and hubby is with Sundance on this all being a multi-dimensional chess game. I get it. It’s not that I don’t trust President Trump, but I so distrust (and frankly LOATHE) this Congress I wouldn’t trust them for 5 minutes with my grandkids. Nope, I never could have gone into politics. I feel like I’m watching sausage being made by hookers and drug dealers.

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    • benifranlkin says:

      it’s from Breitbart and MSM, even Fox is reticent to quote them. that’s ok. it hit its mark

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    • davecatbone says:

      Gateway Pundit has it, with Breitbart and here at CTH, there is a solid foothold. Will grow “word of mouth” exponentially.

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    • Oldschool says:

      Sorry, this is just not news. I did not hear anything that we didn’t see or hear back then. It may be a new tape, but not new information.

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  5. keeler says:

    A lion among sheep folks, a lion among sheep…

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  6. Texmom says:

    Can’t wait to hear Lou Dobbs address this…heheh.

    Liked by 4 people

  7. truthandjustice says:

    Perhaps and perhaps not. I do believe Bannon/Boyle are trying to help but to be honest, in context (which was about the so-called lewd remarks that a much younger Trump had said about women), his words can be taken to mean he would never support Trump on THAT particular subject. You can take it either way as is many, many other things that one can “spin” either way. And it may be that was what Boyle was trying to do and if so, I don’t like that.
    Most already knew about Ryan way before that episode. Especially Trump supporters. What he said in that recording wasn’t much different than his other comments.
    Re Ocare, as another poster said, Tom Price is the author of Ryancare and that in itself is suspicious. Are they in cahoots too? No, I don’t know what’s really going on in how much does Pres. Trump really know, and when, etc. But I’m not automatically assuming this was his brilliant plan from the beginning, even though I’d love to. I think he’s learning some important things as he goes along. Same with foreign policy.
    . Pres. Trump has said that this health care deal is a lot more complicated than he thought and that the swamp is more polluted than he thought. I also remember hearing he himself say one of his weaknesses was trusting people too much and then he gets upset when they betray him.
    He’s going to have to learn some things the hard way as we all do.
    But I always just do what I can about messaging truths/involvement and praying God will take care of it all in due time. He is the one in control of everything.
    Article recalling other times Ryan said same kind of comments:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-ryan-donald-trump-misogyny-silence_us_57f81f60e4b068ecb5de8a5c

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    • BAM says:

      It’s all about timing. We know that Ryan expressed those same sentiments during the campaign, but to bring it up now is epic.

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      • Oldschool says:

        Would you explain why this is epic? I am not seeing it. Thanks

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        • PGlenn says:

          There is a big difference between reading a report that Joe Mixon cold cocked a girl and seeing the raw brutality of that vicious action on video in vivid technicolor. Maybe there ought not be such a big difference, but that’s how human cognition ACTUALLY works.

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        • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

          Ryan never believed Trump would win or he’d never have said anything so STUPID. He said the last thing he wanted to do was help Clinton become president, and this is so very obviously a LIE. Unless Ryan actually thought many Trump voters despised him and wouldn’t want him to endorse and help nominee Trump, by refusing to support and help Trump he absolutely was supporting Hillary.

          Revealing this again now (with audio) confirms all our suspicions and might finally convince some dim bulb Republicans. I’m sure it’s unlikely but he could possibly lose the speakership over this. He NEVER should have been reelected as it is. How many congresscritters does Tom Donahue control with a vice on their privates, anyway? I hope President Trump has plans for that guy…

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    • Summer says:

      I listened to the tape and I agree that Ryan was talking specifically about not going to defend Trump on his crude remarks. I wouldn’t either. However, it looks like Ryan was rather eager to use this unfortunate incident as a convenient excuse for his continued opposition to his own party’s nominee.

      I doubt it was President Trump orchestrating the leak, though. And I doubt that Ryan could be disposed of so easily.

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    • Ryan’s remarks were made during the campaign true! But those scorched-earth remarks were telling his true intent. He was looking for an excuse to let out his true feelings about Trump. There was absolutely no reason for him to make such acid laden remarks other than he truly hates Trump.
      Trump’s remarks always made me feel ,”Is this the worst you got on our guy ?As compared to the evil of anybody else in the competition? BIG DEAL!

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  8. Mickey Wasp says:

    At the beginning of the conference call it is stated that the participants should be careful it what they may not want out in the public. Therefore, they knew the conversation in whole or in parts could be leaked. And it was, as noted in an above post, then candidate Trump knew of Paul Ryan’s statement of not supporting him. For this to come out again and be highlighted is only a reminder of Ryan’s underhandedness and attempts at being for his fellow congress-critters and not the Republican candidate Donald Trump.

    Another item … around this time, or right before the conference call was scheduled, was the release of the ‘Access Hollywood’ tape that was meant to derail the Trump Campaign. And, if one remembers correctly, there was much speculation that the tape originated from the Jeb Bush campaign archive and Ryan was aware of the release beforehand. Because, within 10 minutes of the ‘bombshell’ showing of the tape – Paul Ryan was on a mic and making a statement, of how ‘offended’ he was and would not campaign candidate with Trump in Wisconsin. Thus, throwing the Wisconsin electorate into the Hillary column.

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  9. HolyLoly says:

    Hahaha! We should be getting used to how Trump works by now. It is obvious that he is allowing Lyin’ Ryan to out himself while Trump pretends he’s goin’ with the flow.

    Trump has mastered, first and foremost, understanding the nature of a man like Ryan, and using their weaknesses to aid them in their self-destruction.

    It’s fun to watch even if a little nerve-wracking along the way.

    Tire of winning yet?

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    • HolyLoly says:

      Oops, “tired”

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    • rayvandune says:

      I assume you’re asking for a friend, right? 😀

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    • NYGuy54 says:

      No one is winning here. We have significant infighting on an issue the Republicans said they were ready for. Supposedly all those divisions were bridged last year. Instead you have people coming out denouncing a bill that a year earlier they supported. Too many show ponies out there who would rather talk than actually grind out the work.

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      • HolyLoly says:

        I disagree. Republicans being in the majority is forcing them to put their money where their mouth is. Now that they can actually follow through, they drag their feet and show their desire to maintain control. Also, it is false that RyanCare is the same as the bill they voted for in 2015.

        The infighting is occurring because the swamp is draining exposing the RINOs who really love big government control. It is a necessary fight that small government conservatives need to win.

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        • NYGuy54 says:

          No it is almost the same as the one in 2016 – the Tom Price bill. If you think a spectacle of party members squabbling is good for the president then I don’t know what to say.

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    • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

      He gives people plenty of rope. According to what I’ve read, he’s been doing this a very long time. He doesn’t have to be a politician to know human nature, and I bet he knows it better than all of Congress combined.

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  10. cjzak says:

    Why does it seem like I remember Ryan saying this during the campaign when the leak about grabbing female body parts happened? I saw Ryan interviewed and he said something similar after it was reported he said it to repubs at a meeting I believe.

    Well played is right for bringing this out again and right when the Ryan healthcare bill is churning through Congress. I hope this means necessary changes to this bill happen quickly. Good job Mr. President and company. And to you too Sundance, for drawing it all up so neatly!

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  11. G3 says:

    Bowling night with the Freedom Caucus has been cancelled at the White House due to snow. It’s rescheduled later this week.
    Weather – complicated business slightly delayed business.

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  12. Curry Worsham says:

    I come to praise Speaker Ryan not to bury him.

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  13. Pam says:

    I have to agree with a comment I saw up thread that this tape really shouldn’t surprise anyone. Through the eyes of Sundance’s research, we were already beginning to see what Lou Dobbs already knew Paul Ryan. Dobbs is sharp ya’ll. Just sayin’ 😉 Remember what POTUS said about Paul Ryan in that final WI stop just prior to the November election being like a fine wine? He’s watching him. 😉

    As was said here by several in the last few days, POTUS doesn’t have to accept the final version of this healthcare legislation. Once we get to phase three, if there is something in that final version that the POTUS doesn’t like not only will he not sign off on it but we will find out about it.

    I saw someone mention the freedom caucus in one of these earlier posts. Because of some of them having NeverTrump tendencies, those are the some in that group that I don’t trust either but I do realize they aren’t all bad apples. So there’s that.

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  14. Steele81 says:

    I believe as my daddy used to say, our President Trump is paying him like a fiddle👍😀

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  15. Steele81 says:

    Playing darn autocorrect

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  16. Curry Worsham says:

    Mr. Speaker, beware the Ides of March.

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    • Raven says:

      Don’t warn him!

      I love seeing Caesar Trump catch and stop Brutus Ryan. And if it happens that tomorrow, on the anniversary of the original traitors of Rome stabbing their commander with Brutus thrusting the final blow that Caesar Trump turns the meaning of the Ides of March around, then I say tomorrow cannot arrive soon enough.

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      • Curry Worsham says:

        Et tu Trumpe? Curses!

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        • Raven says:

          Yes. This.

          Except this time it is Trump in the middle, and all those around him cannot die (politically anyway) fast enough.

          When will these people wake up and realize that they may be circling President Trump, but we, the people of the United States of America, are circling around them — and do NOT have their backs?

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      • uvaldegirl says:

        Oh that would just be too incredible.

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  17. comman33 says:

    Just a few days ago you said conservatives were trying to sabotage trump and this bill was the only way anything could get done. Maybe they were just sounding the alarms that Ryan was trying to screw trump.

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  18. Mac says:

    I see two aims with this release. The short-term aim is to tank the AHCA, by encouraging the anti-AHCA Republicans to kill the bill before it gets to the House floor. This is necessary because of the growing resistance to the bill by conservatives and Trump’s base. The long term aim is to marginalize Paul Ryan. Trump will likely accomplish these two goals.

    The problem that President Trump faces is the promises that he has made, and keeps making, with regard to healthcare insurance. He has seemingly promised affordable, universal healthcare insurance for all who wish it. And, that is simply not possible without the government taking over the healthcare insurance system, creating what is essentially a single payer system. But, he has to keep his promises. So, what to do about not being able to provide affordable, universal healthcare insurance without breaking his promise? Why, blame it on Congress. I expect that Obamacare repeal and replace will become a low priority for the Trump administration. Though we will probably see some of the regulations which the HHS Secretary has control of to be relaxed.

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    • Trump is very good at taking the lumps out. The important aspect you don’t cover in your post is that the affordable insurance Trump is proposing is means tested. As people get jobs & the economy improves people’s incomes will rise above the means test. As competition tightens the marketplace, as tort reform and repeal of unreasonable terms for coverage decrease the cost the lowering costs will again decrease the subsidies. People that don’t want healthcare insurance will not have it forced down their throats & people will be free to form cooperatives, use HSA etc. People that go bareback and get sick will have entry into a riskpool plan with means testing or they can choose to go into debt & smarten up for the next time.

      Everyone will be paying less for increased access to care without the bloated bureaucracy and requirements for coverage they don’t need & wouldn’t pay for.

      There is absolutely no, zilch, nada, need for universal single payer health which has been a disaster everywhere it was tried.

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    • Summer says:

      He never promised “universal healthcare insurance”, stop gaslighting. He ALWAYS, from the very beginning promised to replace Obamacare with market-driven solutions (competition, the ability to buy insurance across the state lines etc) and healthcare saving accounts.

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      • HolyLoly says:

        Exactly. Trump promises “access” for everybody, not “insurance coverage” for everybody. Big difference.

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      • seventhndr says:

        You are right that he did not promise universal healthcare, but he did promise healthcare for all, *IF* they wanted it. Primarily through the means you listed. However, he also acknowledged that not everyone who wants it, could afford it. For that, he suggested making health insurance costs deductible from your income taxes and an expansion of medicaid.

        While I don’t subscribe to Mac’s recollection of events, I also think many are only hearing what they want to hear. The hard truth is, he has no intention to taking us completely back to pre-Obamacare days and he was completely up front about it.

        From his Healthcare Reform Position Paper:

        Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system. Businesses are allowed to take these deductions so why wouldn’t Congress allow individuals the same exemptions? As we allow the free market to provide insurance coverage opportunities to companies and individuals, we must also make sure that no one slips through the cracks simply because they cannot afford insurance. We must review basic options for Medicaid and work with states to ensure that those who want healthcare coverage can have it.

        Source: https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf

        I’m not advocating it, but I am stating that people should set their expectations accordingly. Its what he said from nearly the beginning. I never once heard him state he wanted 100% free market healthcare, and his signature quote has always been, “repeal and replace Obamacare.”

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    • cozette says:

      If you listen carefully to Presisent Trumps remarks he talks about affordable healthcare. You added the word insurance. He does not. Insurance is a piece of the puzzle but PDJT is much more focused on wellness and creative ways to bring costs down.

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  19. Really nothing new here. Ryan made similar statements during the general election after Trump made, what Ryan considered, inappropriate remarks. He even held a press conference during the campaign to express his feelings about Trump. Nothing new here at all. We all new about “RINO/Brutus” Ryan.

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  20. I don’t like this!

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    • Alexsandra says:

      I must say I was highly troubled at the inordinate looks, smiles, high-fivess, and hand grabbing that Pence and Ryan engaged with each other in while they were alone on the dias before Trump’s speech before Congress. I knew they were friends but I had no idea they were THAT tight, and also very juvenile-acting, friends. I’m not sure if C-Span retained in its video that long period of time, but it was quite unsettling and lowered my opinion of Pence quite a bit and I was troubled about that display.

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    • If they had the balls to do that, Trump will toss a pizza in the middle of the table.

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    • toriangirl says:

      Read the tweets. Pence isn’t know to agree, and Pence was defeatable. Pence isn’t running anymore.

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      • AmyB says:

        But he would be in 2020, as an incumbent, if “they” took President Trump down. That’s what Clinton meant. She is still delusional.

        I don’t think that there’s much said in that town anymore (if there ever was) that President Trump doesn’t know about.

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        • Kelly says:

          I’m not sure anyone knows when Clinton said it. His tweets jump all over the time line.

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        • dayallaxeded says:

          So far, in modern times, being VP to an impeached or impeachable POTUS hasn’t really worked out for anyone: e.g., Agnew, Ford, Gore. If Pence wants a future, he’d better make sure his and his POTUS’ present is full of WINNING! No place on the train for traitors.

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    • buzzybee says:

      Clinton is a snake in the grass. She’ll say anything to return to a potential communist globalist agenda.

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  21. Texian says:

    Ryan is a neophyte, a plebe, who is way over his head in the rank that he is wearing on his shoulder. The proof is in this recording, he is shallow and ‘acting the position.’ He clearly does not have the depth needed to be in such a high position – and woefully inadequate should the sht hit the fan. He is third in power from the top – you want him as captain of the ship in a hurricane? I think not. I have seen the likes of him in other industries – he is inept because of the lack of depth that only comes with years and years of experience. He is in way over his head. He is the type that gets people killed.. Demote him, get him off the bridge – or mutiny.

    [Mutiny works, we’ve done it – we keel hauled a young ring knocker engineer supervisor from power. (A person derives his power from the respect of his constituents, without it he is powerless). We stormed the bridge of the ship and gave our own Company orders based in experience and rationale to the experienced Captain. He complied.. America has an experienced Captain at the helm right now folks.. Don’t miss this opportunity.. Take control of destiny one way.. or the other..].

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    • Raven says:

      Ryan = incompetence.

      Paul Ryan is ‘Peter Principles’ poster boy, and not a man to be anywhere on the bridge — unless we are pushing him onto the gangplank.

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  22. Benson II says:

    Like a few conservatives I was a little perturbed by Trump’s praise for Ryan and his cohorts horrible bill but I immediately saw why after the first group of conservative health care advocates was invited to the White House for a listening session. Then Trump invited another healthcare group. I realized that for Trump to dis Ryan and those who supported him was to undermine all Republicans in the mind of voters. If Trump had said one word against Ryan or others the media would have had a field day and instead of a negotiation it would have looked like oneupsmanship of a Republican president against the Republican house. So much better to let others complain and criticize while Trump planned.
    His announcement yesterday there was going to be a big beautiful negotiation was icing on the cake.

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  23. gary says:

    what should Trump do with Ryan?

    Pence, Prebius , and Ryan all kind of make me nervous.

    They climbed on the Trump Train, but towards the end, and none of these 3 picked Trump as first pick.

    Maybe Pence and Prebius are redeemable but is Ryan?

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      • MVW says:

        Bluto’s fluffy dog reminds us, “Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.” And that Trump may be taking this advice when it comes to Ryan, and perhaps Uniparty agents and operatives. This, to me, has the ring of truth.

        There are meetings and other meetings. This will be the tell.

        And speaking of big enemies, the biggest is the shadow government agencies. And, the most dangerous time is now when the self funded CIA is being pruned. There is the official CIA and then there are those, for instance, that work for the State Department. Notice that the State Department is being hit with massive budget cuts. My guess is that the CIA unofficial employees are being targeted. A guess, but who can know?

        The self funding part of the CIA and contractors is the bigger problem.

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    • Guy K. says:

      Of course Ryan is not redeemable. He is a two-faced, lying, slippery P O S, and not even a skilled or convincing liar.

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  24. Summer says:

    There won’t and shouldn’t be any “Trumpcare.” There will be deregulation and dismantling of the multilayered bureaucratic structure created by Obama as a stepstone to Single Payer. Then implementation of market-oriented ideas (a huge fight with Demonrats).

    Not gonna happen overnight, though. And compromises are unavoidable.

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  25. dakkie says:

    President Trump Orders Review Of Government Structure To Reduce Size And Cost – Huge Undertaking – Plus, Trump To Get Wiretapping Evidence Soon
    http://investmentwatchblog.com/president-trump-orders-review-of-government-structure-to-reduce-size-and-cost-huge-undertaking-plus-trump-to-get-wiretapping-evidence-soon/

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  26. MfM says:

    How many times during the campaign did Trump talk about ‘taking the lumps out’ of a deal.

    That’s what he’s doing. He’s letting Ryan sink or swim on his own merits and plan. He’s staying above the fray and hopefully pulling together all the factions to make the bill we all want.

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  27. zephyrbreeze says:

    My new theory is that PRIDE is a lack of situational awareness. Developing…

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  28. Rainy says:

    Why is this a big deal, doesn’t everyone already know this has always been Ryan’s view? He said it over and over in public.
    Believe me every time I see Ryan he reminds me of a sophmoric goofy high school kid and I gave money to Nehlans campaign, how gratifying it would have been to see Ryan beat but no.
    What Ryan said on that recording is everything he’s always said in public. He may have been playing along lately but doesn’t everyone know what this lying backstabber is really all about already?, hating and destroying Trump’s MAGA.

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  29. Bert Darrell says:

    If I were in the crowd and heard Trump praising Ryan I’d be one of those shouting: lock him up!
    Paul Ryan is dishonest and poisonous (as much as McCain in the Senate). Before the election, Ryan wanted to be the party’s nominee through a contested convention, After the election, he wanted total independence in the House so he could undermine the president with impunity. Now, he lies to the people while attempting to please the CoC and other donors who are vested on Obamacare. It’s time for Ryan to be “Boehnered”. I hope it happens soon.

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  30. gary says:

    March 15th is tomorrow, I hope Trump’s enemies go down in flames (and not Trump). If you know what I mean. 🙂

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  31. JJ...the first one says:

    This is the day to mail postcard to:
    President Donald J. Trump
    The White House
    1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
    Washington, DC 20500

    Just to say…Great Job
    MAGA

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    • Thanks for the reminder! Just put one in the mail to let him know we love and support him and pray for him daily…keeping draining that swamp and MAGA!! :

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    • Mine is ready to go and I purchased some extra for a few people I know who would never get it done but will fill one out if handed to them. I hope lots of people participate. I’ve seen it mentioned on a few blogs, one guy even has a postcard you can print already addressed. Trump is working hard for us every day and I want to let him know I appreciate it!

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  32. Sandra-VA says:

    This recording is old news, we already knew what he said on that call at the time.

    I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes, but I seriously doubt co-ordination between Bannon and Boyle in releasing the audio. Breitbart is on a mission, in this instance, to voice displeasure at RyanCare. They are also holding President Trump’s feet to the fire…

    Ryan is a weasel, no doubt. Maybe this starts the road to his expulsion/replacement as Speaker, but he is wiley and I doubt it will happen.

    ALL I am concerned with is that I eventually will have health insurance that also includes the ability to get CARE without having to go bankrupt. Right now, my employer (through my husband’s work) based plan is unusable due to extremely high out of pocket/deductible which has to be paid up front before insurance pays a dime. Also, that when my husband retires, I won’t have to pay 5x the cost for 4yrs while I wait to retire.

    The key is Secretary Price and his ability to change the rules and regulations contained within ObamaCare. This is where the real change will happen.

    Oh, and people better start making some noise about the genetic testing that will be allowed under Ryan’s plan!!!!! That is a step way too far, imo.

    I guess we will see what happens.

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    • hsabin says:

      This article was great – enjoyable reading in style and tone alone – and I am glad Bannon is backing up POTUS as he needs someone who won’t stab him in the back. Now get rid of RYAN and put in NEWT as Speaker. Then we will get something done with healthcare that does NOT benefit Ryan’s/MCConnells and others’ pocketbook and is detrimental to the US People. We need HSA’s, cafeteria plans, buying across state lines, portability, and health groups such as in Kansas where folks pay $50 a month with NO INSURANCE. Plus we need to negotiate with big Pharma. I can buy drugs a thousand times cheaper in MX than I can here. WHY? Many times I can buy what I need over the counter and do NOT have a doctor writing a prescription! We MUST do something about medical care and the waste fraud and abuse of Medicare! ALSO – vets need to be freed from the VA system which is a mess!

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  33. jeans2nd says:

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  34. Minnie says:

    As we have said before and will say again – 4D Chess, President Trump is THE master, God be with him xoxoxoxo

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  35. toriangirl says:

    Turn off the noise folks and watch/listen to President Trump. It will save your sanity.

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  36. I don’t like Ryan’s bill we see many in congress speaking out against it so where are their bills?
    What a bunch of no go’s we have in Congress. Quit whining and PRODUCE something already

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  37. History Teaches says:

    Will they ever, ever get their act together and use this opportunity? The Democrats always maintain solidarity, no matter how defeated they are or how unpopular any position or person in their party is. The Republicans always seem fractured and scared, more interested in scoring points amongst themselves over minutiae and semantics. And wilt at the opportunity to really push forward with substantial new policy. And they are still terrified by the leftist media, who never, ever will be supportive.

    Having control of all three branches now should be a slam dunk opportunity to really do things that have been discussed for years. But the Trump win really exposed the undeniable reality of the uniparty. It’s sad that the Republicans prefer to remain the Washington Generals of the game, tolerated as a necessary presence, but treated as beyond contempt. I guess life is good on a person by person level for the elites of the swamp. They reap the rewards while posing as perpetual opposition. Even when they have won they refuse to act like winners.

    Until Trump came along to show what real winning can do. Ryan symbolizes this whole equation. Make a show of working with Trump just to insure his agenda stays stuck in the swamp. Well now the game is really on. In due course Trump will reconstruct the health plan and get it on course. He really is the ‘whip’ of the party too, and needs to lay down the law literally and figuratively amongst his own party. If they can’t pull together and listen to their voters then they need to be singled out and voted out.

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    • repsort says:

      “Will they ever, ever get their act together and use this opportunity?”

      Sorry but they don’t see it as an opportunity. They really don’t wanna change much of anything because if Trump is successful then their spot at the trough is also in jeopardy… The left/right, Dem/Rep show was really just that all along- A show. Nobody in the swamp, who’s livelihood depends on the swampishness of the swap, wants to drain the swamp… And if that means being the lovable losers year after year, so be it.. Trump was NEVER supposed to win…

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  38. Eileen says:

    next is the Freedom Caucus who allowed Obama to double the debt. Given that Mitch McConnell has given the Democrats enough rope to hang themselves, President Trump may not troll him yet but he may troll Sen Rand Paul in Louisville, KY.

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  39. Bonitabaycane says:

    Ryan is a snake. And a snake is gonna slither.

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  40. MDiceman says:

    Oh boy is this great!

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  41. uvaldegirl says:

    And now Lou Dobbs has weighed in…absolutely agree that Paul Ryan should resign.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/14/lou-dobbs-speaker-paul-ryan-should-resign/

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  42. jstanley01 says:

    Haha, well the laugh is on me, and I’m probably not the Lone Ranger. I had entertained the notion that Pres. Trump was being outflanked by politicos wiser in the ways of the swamp than he. Boy was I wrong! And that’s perfectly okay by me. WINNING more than makes up for a little egg. MAGA!!!

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  43. Travis McGee says:

    Dobbs calling for Ryan to resign and just took Rep. Chris Collins to the woodshed. A beautiful thing to behold.

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  44. Besides Ryan’s treacherous denouncement of Trump, their party’s nominee, which I think all of us here already knew, but two more things I found disturbing:

    1). Ryan: “I want to do what’s best for our members” “I want to do what’s best for you the members not what’s best for for me.”
    RYAN DOESN’T SAY HE WANTS TO DO WHAT’S BEST FOR THE VOTERS NOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT WHAT’S BEST FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, aka the stinking rotting putrid system aka THE SWAMP.

    2). Ryan “I’m going to focus on upholding our values” Values of the Republican party. He goes on to glorify the Republican values for “the past generations.:

    REPUBLICAN VALUES for the past few generations?

    1). Hiding and covering up pedophilia, being sexually perverted in all different kinds of ways — enough so they are 30% blackmailable — CIA covert operations against citizens and even past presidents, assassinations, murders, and perpetual unjust unGodly wars, and using the media to run an endless loop of propaganda in which to keep people uninformed, misinformed, and dumbed down beyond mental retardation that the people actually comply and participate in their own enslavement to what the party wants.

    2). Keeping the Southern border open to ensure drugs keep pouring into the country and their campaign coffers keep filled; also human trafficking, cheap slave labor, and more crime to cover the crimes of their CIA and black ops that uses the Southern border as their FRONT DOOR.

    DRAIN THE SWAMP!

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  45. As I was searching relatives of Paul Ryan, I found one of the names being floated by Clinton as possible pick replacement for Justice Scalia is someone who Ryan calls family: D.C. District Court Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. Connected by marriage, Jackson’s husband, Patrick Jackson, is the twin brother of Ryan’s brother-in-law William Jackson.

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  46. Bubba says:

    Unfortunately, Ryan isn’t going anywhere. These leaked remarks toward Trump were publicly known back when he made them. You can go back and read about it. The difference is now we can hear him saying it. So, we’re going to have the distraction and the time consuming process of electing a new speaker in the middle of the health care reform debate? Therefore, delaying hcr and tax reform? Therefore, jeopardizing both and the rest of Trump’s agenda? Not happening. And, don’t expect the well funded snake Ryan to shed his skin over this either.

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  47. Laura Wesselmann says:

    Trump again proves to be the smartest man in the room!

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