Turkish Islamists Riot in Rotterdam Holland After Turkish Minister Refused Entry…

On Saturday the Dutch government withdrew landing permission for a Turkish foreign minister’s aircraft, sparking a furious reaction by Turkish president Recep Erdogan and escalating a diplomatic dispute between the two NATO allies.

The primary concern of the Dutch was the Islamic Turks inability to assemble without violence in Rotterdam.  Throughout the day tensions grew until finally a full-blown Islamist riot began and the Dutch government were forced to respond with riot police.

Unfortunately, this behavior is exactly what the Dutch predicted would happen, and it would appear the Turkish Muslims were determined to prove the Dutch authority correct.

In another Ironic twist, the behavior by the Muslim Turkish constituency in Rotterdam will most likely aid a political resurgence of Dutch Nationalist Gert Wilders who has promised to rid the country of radical Islamists.

(Via AP) Rotterdam – Ahmed Aboutayeb said early Sunday that the Turkish family affairs minister is being escorted back to the German border from where she came after she tried to reach the Turkish consulate in Rotterdam against the wishes of the Dutch government.

“The minister is on her way to Germany,” Aboutayeb said after an extraordinary standoff between a minister from a NATO ally and an overwhelming police force.

“She was called an unwanted foreigner by the government and the rules say you send someone back to the country she came from,” he said.

Hundreds of pro-Turkey protesters scuffled with police as authorities tried to end a demonstration at the Turkish consulate in Rotterdam, where a Turkish minister fruitlessly tried to enter the compound.

At one stage, protesters were throwing bottles and mobbing police vehicles as they moved away from the consulate in central Rotterdam. But soon, police charged on horseback and moved forward with batons wielding.   It was unclear if people were detained or injured.

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257 Responses to Turkish Islamists Riot in Rotterdam Holland After Turkish Minister Refused Entry…

  1. alliwantissometruth says:

    It’s pretty funny really, how the left keeps telling people Muslims are peaceful. It just keeps coming back to bite them on the ass

    It’s like telling your friend, that’s been bitten by your dog five times, not to worry, the dog has settled down

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    • KeepingtheFaith says:

      One of my employees is a senior in high school and is being programmed at school to believe that it’s white men (she’s white) that are the problem. Recently, she got a tattoo, blue hair and lives for her tech devices. These are all recent behaviors. When I wouldn’t let her do her homework on paid time she gave me the evil eye and wouldn’t look at me for several hours. I would really like her to see how these peaceful people treat their young women, but it falls on deaf ears.

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      • Sedanka says:

        Fire her.

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      • olderwiser21 says:

        Fire her immediately. You are not doing her any favors by letting her get away with bad behavior on your watch….

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        • Where else is she going to learn about reality? I admire KeepingtheFaith for trying to educate her. Our local businesses are the last bastion of education in our society these days. It is where they learn it is fun to work with other people for a common, positive goal, and even more fun to get paid money (NOT grades!!!) for the effort.
          Hang on to her as long as you can stand it, Keeping!

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          • dilonsfo says:

            IMO: Reality would be firing her.

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          • USMCLt says:

            Agreed. She could use a lot more counseling on her attitude. If her job entails any customer contact, that behavior would not fly. Tough job deprogramming these useful idiots…

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          • This will be a BIG WIN for both of you…she begins to understand public relations, working for a common goal and as InvestingforOne points out…last bastion of education. And you win due to the effort you put into her to see her grow…that is a VERY Wonderful Thing!!! Persevere…Kindness ALWAYS Begets Kindness and it comes from the strangest places…

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          • mikeyboo says:

            This young woman is not learning anything and she is determined to continue not learning anything. She is also causing disturbance to those around her and may encourage others to act out since she appears to be getting away with it.

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      • F D says:

        Seems like she was not taught or did not accept the lessons of diligence and integrity. Not sure who dropped the ball, parents, educators, church leadership? Teaching when they are young and most impressionable is best. Their problems entering our businesses is a drain. Training the untrainable. You, sir/madame, have a business and a team of employees to protect. The young lady is going to have to learn natural consequences. Tough lesson.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        Did you not give her back the evil eye and stare directly at her for several hours? If not, try it. It works.

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      • Jenny R. says:

        Tell her to quit messing with her mePhone; that you want it put up and secured while she is at work. It’s a start — they get a lot of programming just from that (I know, I’m a teacher). There are some teachers who even encourage their students to “check out” facebook pages, etc. — it will at least keep her from going on them when she’s working.
        Have a counseling session with her — when you are at work, you work.
        The blue hair is a nothingburger — if that’s the worst she does then not so bad (my eldest dyed her hair pink when she was a sophomore and at that stage where teenagers are not comfortable in their own skins and very rebellious, then discovered she looked goofy — I refused to take her in and have her hair re-done, she had to live with it until she earned enough money to dye her hair back its natural color…then we talked and I told her of all the pretty features she had, why take attention away from them with weird hair?). Maybe say, with great sincerity, “your hair was such a pretty color, why did you dye it?” or “you know I didn’t realize just your eyes were such a ____color; I’ve only noticed your hair” something, have a woman do it if you are a man. Make it out of the blue (pun intended), make her think about it.
        If she’s gotten a tattoo, then most likely her parents are not much help either (I don’t know about all states, but here you have to be a legal adult to get one without a parent’s consent). I suppose you could ask her why she got it — tell her only military veterans and people with horrible scars have a good reason for tattoos…is she one of those? If not, then why did she get one? She hasn’t lived enough of a life to have it etched into her skin and should consider herself lucky that she has not…yet.

        And if you have to — fire her. Sometimes we have to learn the hard way.

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        • whatfreshnell says:

          Please watch what you say to her–could be planting the seeds of a sexual harassment suit in her mind. I’ve seen this kind of stuff happen. Also, there are little lockers for cell phones that even come with charging capabilities. Make all employees lock them up.

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      • dginga says:

        Other comments are saying “Fire her” but I suggest instead you let her know your expectations for employees (including appearance, dress code, performance etc.), and hold her feet to the fire to ensure she does these things. She will most likely quit. This has been my experience with the special snowflakes who get hired where I work. They just cannot handle the notion that they are not the center of the universe. I even had to resort to confiscating smartphones when they get to work. They can have them back at break time, lunch and when they leave.

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    • Relax, it’s the Bite of Peace.

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  2. Thank God for President Donald Trump, the courage, love and sacrifice he has bestowed upon us. Amen

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  3. SomebodyNobody says:

    Their loyalties are on full display. Will the Dutch bury their heads in the sand or stand up to these enemies within their border?

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    • sunnydaze says:

      I have more faith in the Dutch than many other Europeans when it comes to this. Let’s hope they prove me right.

      Isn’t their election on Wednesday?

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      • Wavetheshales says:

        The Dutch are standing by their statements and values. Erdogan (airheadclown) has been meddling in Germany for years now, inciting the Turks in Germany against the Kurds in Germany, and, indeed, against all Germans. He’s doing the same in Holland.

        The Foreign Minister was forbidden to speak in Holland (as he was in Germany as well), so the family minister took it upon herself to travel from Germany (!) to Holland via CAR. She managed to get through the border (remember Schengen) and travel to Rotterdam, at which point she was stopped by the police, and ordered out of the country, as she had entered illegally.

        Commenters on German online sites are wondering what the he!! is she doing in Germany, as she has no business being here, either, and there are plenty of airports she could have flown out of that don’t have overnight restrictions (noise, etc.).

        Sound like tomorrow is going to be a “fun” day. Then again, with that nut Erdogan, every day is a fun (nutty) day. He fancies himself as the next Caliph; most people see him as fit for the nuthouse. Nevertheless, the angry crowds of militant Moslems will wreak havoc, just like they do here in Germany when they don’t get their way…..

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        • sunnydaze says:

          Interesting, wave. Let us know what happens to her tomorrow in Germany, if you can.

          Didn’t know she was unwanted there, too.

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        • Jimmy Jack says:

          Given that Erdogan threatened Merkel with a human demographic bomb of migrants if she did not bend to his will, I wonder how he will respond to this. He is dangerous.

          The timing on this is interesting given the terror attacks just stopped in Germany.

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        • Founding Fathers Fan says:

          The Kurds converted to Islam in the seventh century A D. Most Kurds are orthodox Sunni Muslims of the Shaft school; however, in southeastern and southern Kurdistan, some tribes are Shiite. Also found in southeastern Kurdistan is the Ahl-e Haqq sect, which, although based on Ismaili Shiism, is considered heretical by other Muslims. The Alawites (Alevis) of northwestern Kurdistan also practice an unorthodox form of Shiism. The majority of Alawites are Turks, but many are Kurds, some of whom speak the Zaza dialect. A syncretistic form of religion found only among the Kurds is the Yezidi sect. It is believed to be derived from Zorastrianism but influenced by Ismaili Shiism.
          The Turks are mostly Hanafite sunni muslims. Until westerners acknowledge that muslim sects are at war with each other as well as with non-muslim infidels they will be attacked.

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          • USMCLt says:

            Thank you for the detailed roster of the various Islamic sects. Another “moderate” sect that does not get along well with others is the Ahmadi sect, which is thoroughly embedded in the US and Canada. In their home country of Pakistan, the Ahmadis are persecuted by the majority of their fellow Muslims due to theological disagreements.

            I take issue with your last statement that westerners will be attacked until we acknowledge that Muslim sects are at war with each other. What difference with that make? Westerners will be attacked regardless of what we acknowledge!

            Islam is a violent, totalitarian ideology masquerading as a religion. The existence of so many warring Islamic sects is proof as to how deeply flawed the “religion” truly is. A religion truly based on the love of God would not need the sword to grow and to enforce its principles. That is the fact which needs to be acknowledged by westerners

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          • Jenny R. says:

            It isn’t only about religion — ethnic tensions are also cooked into this mix as well even down to the tribal level — me against my brother, my brother and I against our cousin, us against the tribe, the tribe against the umma, the umma against the world; that is the muslim mindset. There are multiple levels of loyalty and conflict, and they shift with whatever is considered advantageous at the moment. It’s a perfect recipe for the perfect storm of violence.
            That’s why one should never make the mistake of thinking any of them are “our friends” or the good guys — there are none to be had.

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            • pcockroft says:

              Look up the average IQ of the arabs or Muslims then the result o,f intermarriage of family members and the lack of education(not the indoctrination of Islamic schools) and what do you have?

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          • 7delta says:

            IMO, FFF is right that we have to acknowledge the warring inter-Islamic factions and understand their conflicts, especially since we’re being told that the sect running from another…today…is no threat to us, when the Islamic table can turn at any second. The pursued will become the pursuer. The RRP brings in both Sunni and Shia.

            USMCLt is correct too that since both sects essentially believe the same thing, for us, their differences mean nothing, as far as our safety is concerned.

            Jenny is also correct about the ethnic tensions/tribal rivalries. The sects have been warring since Mohammed’s death over who would be his successor, but they have and will unite against a common enemy. She’s also right that Islamic doctrine forbids being the friend of an infidel, but if they must pretend friendship, in order to advance Islam, then they are commanded to hate the infidel in their heart, until enough strength is gained to strike.

            Anytime we engage with the Islamic world, at home or abroad, we have to enter fully aware that an individual Muslim may be a real friend or merely pretending. If he were to be a real friend, regardless of his stature in his government, he is by Shariah law, an apostate. He does not represent Islamic doctrine. He’s the exception, not the rule.

            Unfortunately, there is no way to tell the difference between someone who is a real friend and who is a pretender. Based on Islamic doctrine alone, the latter is far more likely.

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            • Maquis says:

              I can never get people to truly wake up to taqqiya, and the injunction against infidel “friends.” They are indeed either your closest enemy, or your friend is giving the finger to some very dangerous savages.

              People can be so stupid. They refuse to learn History. It’s not a reality show on their cell phone.

              There’s a Potential Genocide brewing in South Africa too. Afrikaners, Chistian, Educated, Hard-Working White folks of European Extraction, are beong murdered in the most gruesome ways unimaginable. Mostly White farmers, and nothing is taken other than generally the lives of the entire family.

              The President is a Nut-Job, egged on by another Nut-Job, and they are singing genocidal songs at their rallies, and demanding the taking of all White Farmers’ land. No compensation, except maybe half an ounce of lead.

              That worked out well for Zimbabwe, no?

              A great many have fled, the remainder are too proud, or too poor. Many are in squatters camps. There is a move on to permit repatriation to their familys’ Countries of origin, but Europe is still on it’s suicidal brown bent.

              There are many calling for us to bring them in. 3 million is a lot though. But they would be sufficient to send Jorge Ramos back to his h377hole.

              Mexico will be begging for such qualified workers to lead them out of the nightmare they created there, mostly pols I know, but we are fighting our fight here, why do they get to flee theirs?

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              • Orygun says:

                The Afrikaners are European and were mostly Dutch. It is a shame the Dutch aren’t bringing them home and kicking the Islamists out. When the world has true refugees we seem to only bring in people who don’t want to assimilate or terrorists.

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                • Wavetheshales says:

                  What’s really frustrating about all this is the hope that they’ll kill each other off, but that will never happen, because no matter how much they hate each other, they hate US (the West, in particular Christians and Jews) more than ANYTHING. Indeed, hate of us and anything non-Moslem is about the only thing that can unite them…..

                  Barbarians, all of them. But it started even before Mohammed.

                  Genesis 16:11-12:

                  11 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction.

                  12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

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                  • Maquis says:

                    Indeed. Wonder what the plan for us is? Our downward spiraling morals and vile culture freaks aren’t earning us any Hall Passes…

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              • 7delta says:

                I’ve experienced the same frustrations, Maquis. Some people seem to be more addicted to the emotional high of believing they’re intellectually and morally superior than they are to their own survival instinct. With great authority, they espouse absolutely provable falsehoods, but showing them evidence contrary to their belief simply kicks their virtue-high up a notch.

                After challenging people to research Islam’s primary and only reliable authoritative sources (Mohammed and Allah), then show me where I’m wrong, I’ve never had anyone get back with me. They’re either are so horrified by finding out how duped they’ve been, they don’t want to talk about it or they’ve simply dismissed doing any research. I tend to think it’s the latter, but hope for the former.

                It really is hard to understand why people settle with reality-defying righteous indignation, but won’t get mad enough with me to bother to prove me wrong. I guess the idea of being smarter and more virtuous than people who contradict their beliefs is so ingrained in them (plus it’s much easier and more emotionally satisfying to stay with that), in their minds, there is no question that they could be mistaken…even as jihadists consistently rampage all around them.

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          • Cat says:

            Just details of tribalism. The details really don’t matter……..it’s always about rape and pillage of the next tribe. It’s a distraction of their behaviour to try to make sense of why. It’s what Islam is. And what Islam enjoys.

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      • I wonder how it is that they are bucking the policial correctness trend. White guilt doesn’t work on them?

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        • sunnydaze says:

          They also had a politician assassinated over this crap way back in 2003. Pim Fortuyn. Remember him?

          Gay man who warned against too much Muslim immigration into the Netherlands and was lambasted by the Press and other political groups as being racist, etc.: The Whole Drill.

          So the Dutch are a bit more hardened and not as easily brainwashed by this crap. More of them are “over it”.

          Hopefully ENOUGH of them are over it, and the election is not rigged.

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          • graphiclucidity says:

            Theo Van Gogh was murdered on the sidewalk by a Moroccan, IIRC.
            The Dutch have seen a lot, and this has been a long time coming.

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          • sunnydaze says:

            Ayan Hirsi Ali, ex Muslim, (???? not sure I got her name right there) also was in Dutch gov. back then, speaking out against Radical Islam until the radicals intimidated her so much that she was thrown out of the apt building she lived in and came to the US.

            She got here and Oberlin College promptly denied her a chance to speak to students there.

            US Universtities are soooooo neck-deep in this sh^t.

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        • dilonsfo says:

          They have an election is 3 days. Politicians on left always bend a little right just before the election in order to get moderate votes. When the election is over, unless Wilders wins, they will revert to kissing the Islamic ass.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        In traveling throughout Europe this was the only country I went to where a woman volunteered to me that she and everyone she knew respected Americans and loved us, would never forget that it was us who saved them. As a child she watched as US troops liberated Holland and worked at the Corrie Ten Boom House as a guide.

        I have more faith in Holland than I do most other Western European nations.

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    • Water cannons, batons, mounted police … counts as “standing up to the enemies” to me!

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  4. A2 says:

    Two separate incidents. Firstly, ‘Rotterdam city authorities withdrew permission on Friday for Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu to attend a meeting of the Turkish community to rally support for Erdoğan’s plans to extend his powers. The plans are to be voted on in a referendum in Turkey next month.

    Several other European cities have banned Turkish officials from attending such meetings aimed at expats who are allowed to vote in the referendum.’

    Secondly, ‘Fatma Betül Sayan Kaya was held after travelling from Germany to the Dutch city by car. RTL said Kaya had been declared an “undesirable alien” and would be escorted back to Germany.’

    Erdogan retaliated by sealing off the Dutch embassy and consulate, and for extra hyperbole, for blocking the Foreign minister’s landing, calling the Dutch ‘Nazi remnants’ and ‘fascists’.

    And so goes the ‘religion of peace’.

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  5. Bl says:

    Ergodan’s arrogance has no limits. He gets in trobule with Russia, Germany and now Holand yet Europe is at his mercy. I’m so glad that they were put in their place this time.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      He is arrogant because he is allowed to get away with it. He gets away with it because of his country’s strategic location — and Erdogan uses this, along with bribery and treaties, to bind them all up (I detest him and find him a turnip, but he has been clever enough to play many countries now, including our own; you would think they would all wise up. But he plays to their greed and power fantasies, their paranoia — all of them).
      Erdogan’s Turkey is a bit like the Clinton family; it’s so very tempting and perhaps impossible to resist, but you shouldn’t do business with them or at the very least keep them at a distance…for you’ll always wind up stabbed in the back when you’re no longer useful

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  6. Paco Loco says:

    Islam is at war with the west. The west is at war with itself. Tolerance is a nice concept until someone sticks a knife or a gun in your face.

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  7. Sandra-VA says:

    And this just ensured Geert Wilders will win the election on the 15th.

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    • A2 says:

      Not sure about that as there are nine parties represented in Parliament and contending in the election. All the other parties have sworn that even if Wilders has a good showing they will not form a coalition government with him. Punters are now favouring the ‘Greens’, but as you say, these riots are exactly what Wilders has been warning about.

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      • Obama's boyfriend says:

        The same pubnters were giving 7 to 1 odds against Trump two weeks before the election. The odds were so crazy I was tempted to put a 100 pounds down. But I was too cautious (Ionly bet on sure things and timid). Within three days the odds went to 3-2.

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        • A2 says:

          Well we all know about gamblers and their money…

          The point I was making has to do with the parliamentary structure of the Dutch government in relation to voting. Wilders would have to win a super majority to avoid having to form a coalition government which as stated above the other nine contending parties have stated they will not do. Of course anything is possible, especially after these riots, that is why gamblers gamble.

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          • Wavetheshales says:

            The thing is, same as in Germany, where folks say they won’t deal with the AfD, sooner or later they WILL have to deal with Wilders (or the AfD here), as that’s what the PEOPLE want. We’re fed up with globalism and the Moslems being used to foment violence as a tactic (and their 7th-century “culture” [think of foul, fetid, mold or bacteria]].

            The odd forms of government over here (at one time the Italian government had 14 parties in their government; one of the legislators was a porn star: oddly fitting for a politician…..) do nothing to help things…..

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            • Wend says:

              Where in Germany are you? Stay safe. I lived in the Stuttgart area for a year and spent a lot of time in Berlin and Munich.

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            • sunnydaze says:

              There’s a woman running in France on the “Pleasure Party” ticket who was running around in public giving interviews yesterday with pasties on and short shorts.

              What a jerk.

              Thank God the weirdest Pol we’ve had so far that got publicity on a National Level was the guy from NYC who was running on “The Rent is Too Damn High” ticket, which is definitely TRUE in NYC.

              So at least the guy had a valid point. (!)

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            • Maquis says:

              I so dislike Parlimentary Systems. Such utter chaos and indirection.

              But…bbut…it’s real democracy!
              Mob rule. Gotcha. Good call…

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        • I swear the drop in odds was due to some weird old American woman who was cruising the betting shops in Wales, Scotland, and Ireland and laughing when they quoted those 7-1 odds to her! Barrels of fun, I tell you!

          I got home a few days before the election. so, hmmm. I’m sure the betting shops stay in touch with one another.

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      • So that is the narrative. They used that one when RON PAUL ran, it’s the ole “he can’t win” crapola. They used it with Trump too. So now they know Wilders can win so they pull out the “no one will work with him BULLshevik! They said that about Trump too.

        Rinse repeat. They use the same lies just different countries.

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    • piper567 says:

      I certainly hope so…fervently hope. and pray.

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  8. Cowwow says:

    “Turkey Threatens To Lift Migrant Blockade To Europe” is an article appearing on BB. I cannot l k here. Would someone link for me?

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  9. M33 says:

    Huh…
    This behavior looks familiar…

    Are we sure these aren’t Dems?

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  10. patrickhenrycensored says:

    Got muslims?
    You got problems.

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  11. Sa_Bi says:

    Why are these citizens of a foreign country – who even vote in a foreign election – not expelled?

    And why are they in the Netherlands if they like Turkey that much?

    This is obviously an invasion backed by a foreign regime.

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    • IdahoDeplorable says:

      That’s what I was thinking. You can take the Turks out of Turkey, put them in a European country but they never assimilate and they never consider themselves anything but Turkish. Look at theTurkish flag flying! The muslims are the same wherever they go.

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      • progpoker says:

        Not unlike Mexicans waving their flag while consuming their host. (Welfare)

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      • Wavetheshales says:

        After WWII Germany needed to rebuild, and had no one (pretty much) to do it.
        So they hired Gastarbeitern (guest workers) from Italy, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Portugal, and Asia. Of all these groups, after FOUR GENERATIONS, only one has not assimilated, indeed this one continually causes trouble.

        Guess which one?

        The Turks. They do not, will not, CAN NOT assimilate, as it’s against Mohammedanism
        (I’ve quit saying/writing Islam, because it means “I submit”, and I DON’T SUBMIT to the Moslem beliefs. I submit to JESUS, my LORD and SAVIOUR, and HIM ONLY.).

        It’s about time folks started calling these savages out for what they are: seventh-century barbarians, prisoners of their own doing of a Satanic faux-religion.

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    • A2 says:

      Expatriates. The problem is allowing a foreign government to campaign on Dutch soil. Erdogan has allowed the expats to vote on the referendum in Turkey.

      During the Brexit vote a legal challenge was filed to allow British overseas to vote and was denied on the grounds that long-term British overseas residence showed ‘weakening ties to GB. This line of reasoning is also reflected in citizenship claims of expat children in immigration law.

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    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      That’s what happens with open borders and dual citizenship. I think the Turks were encouraged to come into Germany as labor after the Germans more or less kicked out the Italians. I may be wrong, though. Of course, Turkey had a pretty long history of secular government, with ghe Army as its guarantor. That is why Erdogan staged a phony “coup”: to eliminate the Army as a threat to his Islamist goals.

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      • Trumped says:

        Germans had not enough fit men after ww2. They brought in cheap labour to rebuild the country. Italians never made problems and still many live in Germany after 2 generations rather good integrated .
        Only Turks make problems, cause of their religion.

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      • Jenny R. says:

        What Erdogan did was a bit more complex: he released some Kemalists from prison, gave them the rah-rah patriotism/nationalism speech and sic’d them on the Gulenists (and anyone else who could be considered not on board with his agenda). In this way, he hopes to get the secularists on board (through Turkish nationalism) with his islamists — he may succeed.
        Not that I’m a fan of the Gulenists at all; they used to be his allies (back when he gave them the rah-rah ackbar speech and sic’d them on the Kemalists …and others who could be considered not on board with his agenda).
        He’s been very good at that sort of thing — the Germans should have taken note, but then again many Germans have always had a love affair with Turkish strongmen…which may prove to be their country’s undoing.
        None of which I care over much about except for how it affects my own country. Germany can burn itself to the ground if it wants to…I just don’t want us paying the price for it.

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      • Wavetheshales says:

        No, there are plenty of Italians here, some of them more “German” than the Germans.
        They, and all of the Gastarbeitern OTHER than the Turks, have integrated well.

        Sad thing is, a lot of the corner Pizzarias and Eisdielen are being replaced by “Kebap Shops” and “Doner Imbiss”. No pork allowed…..

        Also Marktkauf (a large grocery chain in the Edeka group) just had a HUGE spread of Halal foods in their weekly ads. Another store I’ll never patronise again. There is pressure to segregate pork from the other meats. It goes on, and on, and on…..

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  12. Mr.Right says:

    tukey need to be kicked out of nato. No US nuclear weapon should be stored on turkish bases.

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    • Obama's boyfriend says:

      They are not stored on Turkish bases, they are stored on US bases.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        Didn’t they surround these US bases during the coup?

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        • Canada for Trump!!!! says:

          Incirlik is a joint forces base. The US has an area at a larger Turkish base. The Turks have shut off the electricity before, posted checkpoints all around, stunts like that when they are unhappy. Erdogan has as much as threatened to seize the nukes, I hope the USAF has moved them out of there. A reliable NATO ally, really.

          I’ve read the rest of NATO has told Erdogan if he starts a war he’s on his own, NATO is not fighting WWIII for him. After that coup attempt he’s at his most dangerous, a rabid dog that sees the dogcatcher truck pulling up. All crazy bark, little bite, but he may be stupid to go too far one of these times. He’s being told to GTFO out of Syria, and can’t attack the Kurds the way he wants to, so he is frustrated. Even his new allies, the Russians and Chinese both hate him, they just deal with him out of practicality.

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    • M. Mueller says:

      Not only that, we should get out of NATO before it drags us into things we don’t want to be part of.

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      • benifranlkin says:

        No. we r better in charge and keeping tabs on Turkey.

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        • Jimmy Jack says:

          Footing the bill and sending our soldiers to die for their interests is not the samosa being in charge.

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        • Jenny R. says:

          Keeping tabs, or helping Turkey achieve its goals?
          At this point if we are to stay in NATO, then we need to renegotiate the terms, or we will be stuck in an allegiance that serves very bad purpose, like helping to build Erdogan’s neo-Ottoman Empire and helping certain European countries in their quest to aid in this endeavor. So in that regard, out of NATO.
          I can understand the practicality of keeping tabs on what is quickly becoming a chaotic situation, trying to keep the lid on the pot as it were, but we need to extract ourselves from commitments that very well may bite us in the backside.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      They were reportedly removed from our base there, last year.
      This was during the Pro-ISIS ‘protests’ that were trying to do a blockade at the entrances to the base.

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  13. toriangirl says:

    Annnnnnnd, they’ve just elected Geert.

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  14. Greg says:

    Unfortunately, the coup failed last July and Sultan Recep Erdogan is snuffing out Ataturk’s secular legacy.

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    • Realist says:

      That wasn’t a ‘coup’ it was all planned by Erdogan to provide him with an EXCUSE to do what he is doing – establishing HIS DICTATORSHIP and CALIPHATE

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      • Maquis says:

        I never believed it was a coup.
        After all, he’s buddy-buddy with Obama, no?

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      • iswhatitis says:

        –> “That wasn’t a ‘coup’ it was all planned… ”

        I’ve believed the same thing since it occurred – that it was staged so that he could denounce and round up his political opponents (IIRC he ’rounded up’ lots of them). I assume many of them are now either in cells someplace and some are probably ‘gone’.

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  15. toriangirl says:

    It never ceases to amaze me that modern liberal Europeans and Americans have seemingly forgotten 1,000+ years of attempted Islamic takeover of Europe. Turk Ottoman Empire ring a bell, folks? Paging Charles “The Hammer”Martel, paging Vlad “The Impaler” Dracul” cleanup on Aisle 4 – no, make it all of the aisles.

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    • patrickhenrycensored says:

      islam has not contributed anything to the betterment of civilization since its inception.

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      • coldsnap says:

        100% right!

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      • toriangirl says:

        Other than early Renaissance mathematics and astronomy, I agree.

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        • patrickhenrycensored says:

          Stolen those from those they conquered.

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          • toriangirl says:

            Can’t agree on that. However, that does not negate they haven’t advanced since the Renaissance.

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            • A2 says:

              I thought they gave us Zero. 😀

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              • toriangirl says:

                I’m not sure that’s a contribution!

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              • Wavetheshales says:

                Yeah, and they also gave us Ø – Øbozo…..

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              • A2 says:

                I give up. Irony and humour do not translate.

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              • TheFightingMan says:

                No. That is an oft repeated canard. Zero as a concept was discovered by the Indian Hindus.

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              • Jenny R. says:

                It was likely an invention of the Indians. Many Islamic scholars of the “golden age” were either recent converts, people of other religions unlucky enough to be in occupied lands, or muslims taught by such people. What often gets overlooked is that at the very beginning, islam did not have the demographic hold on their conquered regions as they do now — so they kinda had to play nicer anyway. This made them appear far more liberal than many of their leaders and adherents wanted to be. Then the Mongolian invasions gave them another reversal (although it did open up some steppe tribes to conversion later on, but this took a while).
                At least back then they weren’t quite so gung ho about tearing everything up (although it has been a feature since the beginning, see above).

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            • Rudy Bowen says:

              Everything…I mean everything…that is attributed to Islam was stolen. The math and astronomy you mention were originally Persian developments, pre-Islam. Sometimes just previous to being conquered.

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              • toriangirl says:

                Again, dear LORD help me, I am not defending Islam or Muslims. If you use that logic, none all of our scientific breakthroughs would be considered stolen.

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                • toriangirl says:

                  Typo! All of our scientific breakthroughs would be considered stolen

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                • xyzlatin says:

                  Actually you were defending Islam and furthermore, now you are trying to deflect the topic on to the West’s scientific breakthroughs.

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                  • toriangirl says:

                    How was I defending Islam? You did get the part where I’ve said that they’ve made no advances from the time of Renaissance? Apparently you didn’t, or you interpreted what you wanted to see from what I said. Please show me where I spoke of anything remotely positive in modernity? That’s right, nothing. In fact, if you’d read further down the thread, you will notice my call for a modern day Charles The Hammer Martel and Vlad The Impaler Dracul to stop the Islamic invasion of Europe and how surprised that I am that so many people ignore the 1,000+ years of Islam’s attempt to conquer the rest. Again, it would be lovely if you were remotely familiar with my opinions and beliefs before you accuse me of being a Islam sympathizer. I am the furthest from what you say I am.

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                  • Wavetheshales says:

                    The Moslems also trashed the great library at Alexandria.

                    Like their master the Devil, they cannot create; they can only destroy…..

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        • sunnydaze says:

          The architecture’s beautiful, too.

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        • spaulj67 says:

          100% Grade A Hogwash;
          http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/08/how-muslims-did-not-invent-algebra/
          Astronomy? Seriously?
          Islam is the most retrograde culture on the Earth by any measure.

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          • toriangirl says:

            Perhaps you did not read my entire comments. Something tells me that you didn’t. Did I say that they invented Algebra? No, I didn’t. Did I say that they did anything beyond the Renaissance period? No, I did not. We were not speaking of the present. But, you didn’t bother to read that, did you? I can cite as many websites myself. However, my intention is not to glorify Muslim culture. In fact, it is one culture that hasn’t moved forward since the Renaissance. It’s always good to follow the entire thread before jumping ugly.

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            • Wend says:

              Oh God, I hope they did invent algebra which I flunked in High School. Not a “D”, a real “F”. I hate math.

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            • Maquis says:

              Um. Your “proof” that your assertions are correct is the fact, hammered relentlessly, that you have made no further assertions.

              Oh, acompanied with hounding people that recognized that there was no “there” there.

              I’m willing to consider your assertions, but not until evidence supporting, or even better, proving, your assertions is offered.

              Further rude treatment of folks that have been given no reason to accept your ideas will suffice for me to judge the matter closed, and I would not be alone in the matter.

              By the way, hello! I trust you ard having a fine day here on this madly spinning globe avec nous tous, des troglodytiques?

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              • toriangirl says:

                Your posting isn’t incomprehensible because English is not your first language, but because there isn’t a thread of rational thought to reply to. And, as you were not a part of the original conversation, I assume you switched user names. Auf Wiedersehen, ich hoffe du hast einen tollen Tag.

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                • Maquis says:

                  Wow. You are quite the hostile young lady now aren’t you?

                  Also quite rude and impolite.

                  The funny part is, you just, again, made inappropriate assertions without explaining yourself, or the rationale behind your perceptions. “There is no rational thought…”? Really? I’d ask if you always lead with harsh unpleasantries and insulting lies, but it’s clear that you surely display strong tendancies in that vein.

                  Et j’espere que vous passez une bonne jour aussi.

                  A Dieu, Fraulein.

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        • xyzlatin says:

          I understand that the speciality of invading islam generals was to burn all libraries and one priceless ancient one in India was among the carnage. I cannot equate this with yours and others statements about how they revered learning, mathematics and astronomy. Maybe one caliph did. We have only to see the destruction of ancient monuments by Isis to see what the attitude is as Isis is copying Mohammed. Please stop repeating this meme which new knowledge of discoveries in India and how advanced they were before the coming of islam is increasingly showing your statement to be wrong.

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          • toriangirl says:

            First, did you read my entire thread? Obviously, you didn’t. Let’s break down your reply, shall we? Did I say that they revered learning? No, I did not. If they did, they would have educated women as well. Did I speak of anything remotely in modernity? No, I did not. You are bring in arguments that I simply did not make. As far as Isis is concerned, I am horrified – horrified to see the destruction of ancient treasures. In fact, just this week, a new Ramses II colossal statue was found in Egypt, and I am worried they can’t get it out of the ground and safe before ISIS destroys it.

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          • toriangirl says:

            For your edification, here is the story of the new Ramses II statue that I’m afraid they will not be able to secure before someone destroys it.

            http://nypost.com/2017/03/09/archaeologists-uncover-massive-statue-of-pharaoh-ramses-ii/

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        • Beverly says:

          They stole algebra from the Hindus, after slaughtering an estimated 40 million of them over the years (see Hindu Kush).

          Astronomy? maybe, just enough to get their sorry butts across the desert. /spit

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          • toriangirl says:

            Let me preface my response with a disclaimer as there are many who believe sticking to a correct historical record is akin to being a Muslim supporter. Disclaimer: I believe Islam is a scourge upon the earth. I do not condone Islam in any way whatsoever. Moreover, I will die before I would put on a hijab or bend the knee. Now, here is my response to you. Cite your sources. Thank you. Again, I am not a Islamic apologist and they have made no advancements nor have they made cultural advances since the Renaissance.

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            • Jenny R. says:

              Is Bertrand Russell a worthy enough source? And, I might add: one that can hardly be accused of too much bias against islam, so if anything he treats it well.
              http://www.ntslibrary.com/PDF%20Books/History%20of%20Western%20Philosophy.pdf

              And even he says that the muslims, while some of their artwork was spectacular, contributed nothing to theoretical discovery, and were merely transmitters of information (though we do not know how much was lost thanks to them, so there’s that).
              This coming from someone who if anything shows consideration towards islam.

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              • toriangirl says:

                Bertrand Russell! How fun. Bertrand was a jack of many trades, wasn’t he? I must say that I learned more of him with regards to philosophy rather than mathematics. He is best known for his controversial tome: Why I Am Not a Christian.

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        • Marsha Hamel says:

          You moved the goalpost. That’s why the dogpile. No worries it’s how women try to argue.

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          • toriangirl says:

            Nice. Ad hominem to boot! Tell me, friend. How did I move the goalpost? Try to explain it in simple terms for me since I am a woman and might not understand the big words, much less be able to recognize an argument.

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            • mikeyboo says:

              Never mind history. The only important issue TODAY is: Is Islam the scourge of modern society. On that issue you are very clearly!!!!!! on the right side. Nothing else matters.

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    • CheshireCat says:

      Charles was that rarest of commodities in the Middle Ages: a brilliant strategic general, who also was a tactical commander par excellence, able in the heat of battle to adapt his plans to his foe’s forces and movement — and amazingly, to defeat them repeatedly, especially when, as at Tours, they were far superior in men and weaponry, and at Berre and Narbonne, when they were superior in numbers of fighting men. Charles had the last quality which defines genuine greatness in a military commander: he foresaw the dangers of his foes, and prepared for them with care; he used ground, time, place, and fierce loyalty of his troops to offset his foe’s superior weaponry and tactics; third, he adapted, again and again, to the enemy on the battlefield, shifting to compensate for the unforeseen and unforeseeable.
      – Edward Gibbon

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    • Highly recommend this when you have time. Honestly makes you think if the Knights Templar wasnt brought down just as our government is trying to take take us down & take God out of everything…well that is before we were blessed from God with President Donald Trump.

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      • toriangirl says:

        I will take a look, thank you! Coincidence that it was Pope Clement V that dissolved them and brought charges of heresy, etc. against them. There is nothing new under the sun.

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        • Jenny R. says:

          Actually, if you want to really get to the heart of the matter is was King Phillip of France, who was heavily indebted to the Templars who funded his wars with the English, who pressured Clement (based out of France and very much in need of Phillip’s support) into issuing the order of dissolution.
          It was King Phillip who made the charges of heresey and indecency to begin with.

          And this is why separation of church and state not only protects states, it protects churches as well.

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          • toriangirl says:

            No argument there. The papacy at the time – and other times was a weaponized (literally) arm of whatever current regime was in power.

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      • Beverly says:

        In the first three and a half minutes, they frame the entire Crusades as a “preemptive strike against the Arab world” — What the h.e. double ell???

        The moslems had swept across the northern tier of Africa, slaughtering and forcing “conversions,” and had invaded and brutalized the Christian East, the Byzantine Empire and Constantinople: the rape of Eastern Christendom led that emperor to BEG the Pope in Rome to send help to stave off the Moslem hordes: THAT was the genesis of the Crusades.

        This is a necessary historical backgrounder to the docu above. Please watch this first, then you’ll see what the leftwingers at the History [sic] Channel have done.

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        • Beverly says:

          To get the full impact, watch all of Dr. Warner, but to cut to the chase, start at the 11-minute point; then, go to the 27-minute point: I guarantee you will be stunned.

          Then do watch the Whole Thing. And please, pass it on.

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        • maggiemoowho says:

          Thanks for posting this video👍. Very educational and very, very interesting.

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      • Does that documentary mention that Queen Eleanor (wife of a French king, then of Henry II) went on both the First and the Second Crusade, with her own soldiers and women from the Aquitaine? She’s the Eleanor of “The Lion in Winter.” Fabulous woman. Had something like nine kids, four of whom were Kings of England.She is ignored by most, if not all male historians, best biography is by Amy Kelly.

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        • JoAnn Leichliter says:

          Thanks! I understood the labor shortage (loss of German males–even w4 and w5 year olds, late in the war), but do not have a great grasp of the Gastarbeitern history.

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    • Wend says:

      I had an amazing Vlad Tepes doll I got in Romania-lost in one of my many moves. So cool-guess I’ll have to watch “Bram Stoker’s Dracula” again.

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  16. georgiafl says:

    We should start a GoFundMe to buy tickets so that we can send all those poor unhappy Muslims back to their own wonderful Sharia homelands where they can be happy.

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  17. toriangirl says:

    Reading the Twitter feed of a Dutch fellow. Apparently, the Dutch are throwing things down from their apartment at the protesters. Bravo!

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  18. JustSomeInputFromAz says:

    Hmmm, a new E.O. is needed for extreme vetting of Visa applications from Western Europe.

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  19. Realist says:

    LEFTARDS and ISLAMISTS obviously have no concept of what IRONY means,They are just PROVING that Wilders is absolutely RIGHT that Holland there are too many NON INTEGRATING MUSLIMS and that TURKEY is not an ALLY its is an ENEMY of the West.

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  20. Anne says:

    Erdogan is campaigning in Europe for the April 16 referendum in Turkey that will grant him tyrannical powers.

    A pro-Erdogan former MP has declared that the referendum is a religious event:

    “Sevki Yilmaz, a contributor to the Akit Newspaper and ex-member of parliament, has made a scandalous declaration on Akit TV.

    The ex-member of parliament, Sevki Yilmaz, has claimed while crying on a TV program that “ it was predicted in a Hadith that a victory awaited them on the 16th of April,” referring to the constitutional change referendum.

    According to the news of Oda TV, Yilmaz also added “When Turkey advances, the Beytullah (the house of God) also advances. Saying yes on the 16th of April will make you a loved servitor of the Beytullah (the house of God)”

    http://washingtonhatti.com/2017/02/25/scandalous-declaration-on-akit-tv/

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  21. paulraven1 says:

    “… the Islamic Turks inability to assemble without violence in Rotterdam.”

    You could pretty much say the same about the Left in America. Curious, that.

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  22. free2313 says:

    EUROPE! Dammit take your countries back and send Muslims back to their God forsaken countries…

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  23. This is going to sound terrible, but we they were all warned by Andres Breivick of Norway. What Breivick did in 2012, killing 77 people was in excusable, horrific and evil. His message was spot on, in retrospect. He message was ignored and scoffed because of his actions.

    May we all learn that Violence is not the way to get the message of what the MB is planning for the west. IDK what will wake the Left up at this point, probably nothing. Hopefully America can withstand this ideology, educate the next generation and survive. The Islamist are fighting for their religion. What are we fighting for? Which army has the deeper loyalty? I fear for my country, my family, friends and prosperity. My God show us the way.

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    • xyzlatin says:

      The West may survive battle, but it will not survive the demographic bomb in the next 40 years. Unless European and American women are encouraged to breed again, 3 to 4 children, the muslims will conquer. The most numerous name in the UK and Europe of births is Mohammed.

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      • Correct. Except may be sooner than 40 years. Greece, Italy, and Spain are already at the fertility level that cannot be reversed because it would take 80-100 years and take zero muslims breeding during that time period.


        “In order for a culture to maintain itself for more than 25 years, there must be a fertility rate of 2.11 children per family. With anything less a culture will decline. Historically, no culture has ever reversed a 1.9 fertility rate; 1.3 impossible to reverse because it would take 80-100 years to correct itself and there is no economic model that can sustain itself during that time.”

        “Muslim birthrate is 8-10 children per family.”

        As of 2007 [10 years ago] the fertility rate for these European countries:
        FRANCE: 1.8
        ENGLAND: 1.6
        Greece: 1.3
        GERMANY: 1.3
        ITALY: 1.2
        Spain: 1.1
        USA: 1.8 + with Latin American immigrants = 3

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        • Jimmy Jack says:

          I have wondered for over a decade now if the high Latin American fertility rate isn’t one of the reasons we have looked the other way on illegal immigration from there for so long – it acts as a hedge against Muslim fertility rates.

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        • 7delta says:

          Gee, since low birth rate is a threat to culture and survival, wonder why the left has spent a century wailing about overpopulation and advancing women’s careers, which in and of itself, isn’t bad, but the pressure put on women to conform does pull women away from having children? And they sure have spent a lot of time on abortion on demand. The whole demonization of males is peculiar too, if you want to survive, not only as a country and culture, but as an individual. /s

          I’m sure it’s to combat white supremacy or something. They’ll never touch the fact that abortions among black Americans is astronomical, but then progressives have always loved a good eugenics program.

          While they wail, they arrange their own demise. Amazing lack of logic and understanding consequences.

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          • Tejas Rob says:

            >Gee, since low birth rate is a threat to culture and survival, wonder why the left has spent a century wailing about overpopulation and advancing women’s careers, which in and of itself, isn’t bad, but the pressure put on women to conform does pull women away from having children?

            It’s all part of the progressives plan to destroy the US. They have been doing this for a very long time and will continue with no stop. They have the viciousness of a rabid dog and there is only one way to deal with a rabid dog.

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            • 7delta says:

              Exactly, Tejas Rob. I would add all of the West to the progressives’ plan. Foolish, foolish people that don’t grasp that they can’t take away rights, culture and country from others without taking away their own.

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  24. Allowing your politicians to infest your country with alien third world savages is a:

    [ ] good idea
    [x] bad idea
    [ ] act of treason

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  25. Jimtom says:

    George W Bush: ‘Islam is a peaceful religion’

    Wrong on three counts:

    1. Islam is not a religion
    2. Whatever it is – it is NOT peaceful
    3. Islam cannot coexist in a Republic

    Convert or die no thanks

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  26. Watcher says:

    Bet they weren’t all Turks.

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  27. entagor says:

    Sandra-VA had posted links in another CTH thread which included:

    Geert Wilders ✔ @geertwilderspvv
    Go away and never come back @drbetulsayan and take all your Turkish fans from The Netherlands with you please. #byebye https://twitter.com/drbetulsayan/status/840693227242045440
    5:45 PM – 11 Mar 2017

    READ the replies to this! The turks are openly threatening.

    Man i wouldn’t let that lady into my country either. She and the Turks protesting are arguing that a consulate is part of their homeland. One commenter named mohammedalshour says “why did you occupy our land and kill our people for hundreds of years . you only understand the tongue of sord”

    Barbarians. Chilling

    in this: twitter.com/drbetulsayan
    she says
    Dr.Betül Sayan Kaya‏Verified account @drbetulsayan 5h5 hours ago
    1) Year 2017; Europe, so-called center of contemporary civilization! We are not allowed to step in Turkish Consulate General, our own land.
    214 replies 4,730 retweets 5,757 likes
    Reply 214 Retweet 4.7K
    Like 5.8K

    Look at how many likes she gets, 5.8K

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  28. Anne says:

    These Turks living in Eurpope are hypocrites. They support Erdogan’s proposed constitutional amendment granting Erdogan tyrannical powers. If the Netherlands elects Geert Wilders, they will likely protest with the leftists against a “tyrannical” leader.

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  29. seabrznsun says:

    Endogamy is a Muslim desiring to form the Ottoman Empire under his rule. He is someone to be watched closely and contained within his borders.
    I feel sure Flynn was gathering intel on the current situation there.

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  30. Anne says:

    The mayor of Rotterdam, Ahmed Aboutaleb, is anti-islamist Muslim. I read a few months ago that he is rumored to have converted to christianism.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      I pray for his soul that he did.

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    • Christianism??? Doesn’t -ism mean a political ideology? The usual English language construction is “Christianity.” A group organized around the Christian religion.

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      • Wavetheshales says:

        Depends on if English is that person’s first language. Living in Europe, I could see a German or nordic person say Christian(t)ism…..

        Don’t be so quick to judge. Ask first. Anne is a name in many, many, languages…..

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  31. In 1961 the French riot police killed several hundred Algerian pro-Islamist rioters. Dumped their corpses in the Seine.

    The idea that these 3rd World monsters should be *welcomed* into formerly beautiful European societies is maddening.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      They should be using bullets not water cannons.

      And now look at the French – literally the police are running away from the rioters, dragged and beaten from their police cars.

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  32. streetparade says:

    Erdogan also has his army in Syria ostensibly to fight ISIS but in actuality to fight the mostly Kurdish SDF / YPG forces. So now, we’re depending on a buffer zone created by the SYRIAN Army to keep our two allies from fighting! You can’t make this stuff up.

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  33. jamesmacalistair says:

    Obviously, Holland has failed to do effective vetting by asking their Muslims which of these they follow:

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  34. DebbieUK says:

    What I’ve never understood is why if you take up citizenship of another country you also retain the right to vote in elections of your birth country. It is anti integration and leads to a fifth column of Isamists . Europes gone collectively mad.

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    • Anonymous says:

      It’s that multiculturalist trans-national opens borders BS of which Europe if infatuated lately…

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    • Wavetheshales says:

      There are odd dual-citizenship laws here, but for people coming in without at least one German parent, it takes a MINIMUM of eight years before they can apply for citizenship.
      So I don’t think a lot of these Turks are actually German citizens…..

      We need to send them back. Now.

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    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      This is why the oath of allegiance taken by new U.S. citizens (legal immigrants who have gone through the process) specifically requires that person to renounce allegiance to any other entity. Lately, the oath seems to have been ignored by pretty much everyone, but it remains a requirement, and the U.S. historically did not recognize dual citizenship (regardless of claims by foreign governments).

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      • mikeyboo says:

        I though I read that Obama cancelled the requirement for oath of allegiance to the US for persons seeking citizenship.
        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/25/obama-invites-18-7-million-immigrants-avoid-oath-allegiance-pledge-defend-america/
        “It’s not only illegal aliens who are escaping enforcement of the nation’s immigration laws.
        Under the Obama administration’s expansive interpretation of executive authority, legal immigrants seeking citizenship through the nation’s Naturalization process are now exempt from a key part of the Oath of Allegiance. Immigrants seeking to become citizens no longer have to pledge to “bear arms on behalf of the United States.” They can opt out of that part of the Oath. Nor do they have to cite any specific religious belief that forbids them to perform military service.

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  35. TwoLaine says:

    Get ’em outta’ there! And take their coats!

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  36. US says:

    Erdogan is the Muslim Brotherhood. Turkey is to The Islamic State what Laos was to South Vietnam.

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  37. chojun says:

    Turkey needs to be booted from NATO. The situation is getting pretty ridiculous.

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    • Beverly says:

      The only reason NATO has put up with them, I believe, is that we need somewhere to land besides tiny Kuwait if we need to stage our forces into the ME again in any numbers; tho they usually refuse, the bustards. With the current lunatic dictator, we should just boot them out forthwith, and tell them we’ll bomb them back into the Stone Age if they try flooding our zone with their military-age males.

      But that’s just me.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        We could use Jordan or Said Arabia if we had to, maybe Qatar. We have options.

        This is about who is getting money behind the scenes.

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      • Jenny R. says:

        They also control the entry to the Bosphorus — or did. That was important during the Cold War. So, it’s a relic of that time.
        Perhaps we could see about trading Russia for Turkey, provided the Russians don’t get ideas (which sadly, some of them would, so moot conjecturing). Still…

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  38. sulli159 says:

    The world leaders need thousands of Geert Wilderz. May the protection of God surrround him. He and his family has to have body guards 24/7 since he made that film Fitna. And Theo Van Gogh was stabbed to death for making a film about the Muslim performing genital mutilaion on their female children.

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    • none says:

      Lets not forget the recent totally beyond the pail behaviour of a government funded helpline here in NL which told people distributing leaflets in Rotterdam calling for the deaths of all homosexuas and general death threats in person as ok as long as you were a muslim doing it on religous grounds, anyone denying it can see the debate on Dutch parliament TV regarding it , although they found it illegal nothing was done as follow up same as nothing done about them beign asked too spy on Dutch nationals and email all details of critics of Erdogan too the Turkish embassy here so they could be arrested when they go to visit turkey, as the female journalist was last year

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  39. sunnydaze says:

    Blunt message to Turkey from Geert Wilders:

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  40. none says:

    Living near Rotterdam I can tell you this is typical behaviour and should have been stopped as soon as they started gathering, a state of emergency was declared prior too the gathering, they broke huge swathes of road works, in case people are unaware here in NL paths and roads areoften made of bricks and tiles and easily uprooted for use as weapons, as it was lastnight, this was also the case of the night of the so called coup, and for 2 weeks after youths stomped through zandaam attacking people and property calling themselves erdogans warriors and filming themselves doing so, wilders and Theirry are right these people need removing from Holland , this on top of imams calling for jihad and daily “liquidations”, thats assassinations too you and me and last years emails too the turkish embassy from erdogan redistributed too all Turks requesting details of any and all people criticising Erdogan should have started the process in the first place, they have no loyalty too Holland and would not think twice about attacking Dutch people not that msmlets anyone know the truth

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  41. John Franco says:

    Purge these animals from YOUR country…problem solved!

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  42. Ip Siscr says:

    Once things get to a certain point, the traditional response is shoot the riot ringleaders, declare curfew, start arresting people. And no-go zones are an assault on sovereignty. They can not be tolerated. As the psalmist says, dash the little ones against the rocks, meaning stop evil while it is still small.

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  43. Paul Killinger says:

    No offense, but in modern history the Dutch people haven’t exactly been sterling examples of standing up for themselves. This is a welcome turn of events!

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  44. Lone Gunman says:

    If they shot enough of them…..maybe they’d get the message and LEAVE! It amazes me how NONE of the leaders of these countries seem to realize what it happening, ie, WORLD CONQUEST is the mooslim goal and since they can’t do that with an army, they’ll do it by immigration, which is the same thing in the end.

    I LEARNED EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT MOOSLIMS ON 9/11 AND NONE OF IT WAS GOOD!!!

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    • Tejas Rob says:

      >If they shot enough of them…..maybe they’d get the message and LEAVE!

      That reminds me of a story from early in the Iraq invasion. An Army officer was in charge of a scene where Iraqis were looting a building. He was trying to get them all to leave, with no success.

      His Iraqi translator told him “Shoot them!”. He told the translator he couldn’t do that. His Iraqi translator then said “Sadaam would have shot 100 of them, the rest would go home!”.

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    • In AZ says:

      The leaders of these countries KNOW exactly what is happening with the moslem invasion. The leaders of these countries helped orchestrate the invasion. The Communist Globalists are behind the whole mess. And the Globalists have been doing this for decades.

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  45. AnnS says:

    We should shut down our Air Force base at Icrilik out embassy and leave the country. Don’t think they have changed much since the Young Turks and the Armenian Genocide

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  46. EWSoCal says:

    Any chance we can convince the American Soros-funded snowflake rioters that Islamist rioters are the bad guys and get them to go after each other? Oh, wait, no that can’t happen because the snowflake rioters are fighting *in support of* the religion who throws gays off buildings, mutilates genitals, and stones girls for talking on the phone.

    Maybe Michelle Obama and Oprah Winfrey can come up with a strongly worded hashtag to quell the riots. #We’reSoSorryTurkeyPleaseForgiveUsAndYouAreWelcomeToActHoweverYouWishJustDon’tRiotPleaseWeStandWithRiotersSeeWeAreSoEnlightenedDon’tHurtUs
    \sarcasm\

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  47. Here's Your Sign says:

    “Hey, to appease them, why don’t we invite some more to come live here?”

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  48. Adam says:

    Do not like in Holland go back to your country

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  49. gary lacey says:

    Take a look at the photos, does it appear in any one of the photos that there is hundreds of protesters? I submit to you that the photos are a complete fraud,.

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