The Historic Facts About Illegal Alien Voters (Full Research pdf)…

Prior to the 2016 election President Obama used his parseltongue to encourage illegal aliens to break federal law and vote in the presidential election:

Today, Donald Trump pointed out the illegal alien voting issue:

According to a recent research study as many as 2.8 million illegal aliens voted in 2008 and 2012.  Full pdf below:

[excerpt] …”How many non-citizen votes were likely cast in 2008? Taking the most conservative estimate (those who both said they voted and cast a verified vote) yields a confidence interval based on sampling error between 0.2% and 2.8% for the portion of non-citizens participating in elections.

Taking the least conservative measure e at least one indicator showed that the respondent voted yields an estimate that between 7.9% and 14.7% percent of non-citizens voted in 2008.

Since the adult noncitizen population of the United States was roughly 19.4 million (CPS, 2011), the number of non-citizen voters (including both uncertainty based on normally distributed sampling error, and the various combinations of verified and reported voting) could range from just over 38,000 at the very minimum to nearly 2.8 million at the maximum”…

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371 Responses to The Historic Facts About Illegal Alien Voters (Full Research pdf)…

  1. 4bleu says:

    What a theatre – a person pretending to be an interviewer using a dictionary that doesn’t exist on this planet, with a person pretending to be POTUS agreeing.

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  2. angryduc says:

    There are far more illegals and migrants than the government has reported. Far far more. I’m in central Oklahoma and there are so many Asians and Arab Muslims and African Muslims imported in here that I am literally the only white guy at the grocery store. It is a sea of Asians. I’m convinced they are following the Kalergi plan. It looks like Singapore every time I go shopping. This has to stop. The import limits must be reinstated. http://www.disclose.tv/news/the_kalergi_plan_and_why_world_leaders_are_rattled_by_donald_trump/131637

    The Naturalization Act of 1790 set forth who may become citizens of this country. That remained essentially unchanged until the republicans allowed women, blacks and natives the right to vote. Only after these discriminated classes were given equal footing in this country did Democrats move to change the immigration law to start importing the new low cost labor. Chappaquiddick Ted Kennedy and his conspicuous fat head introduced the legislation to import the new slave class. Democrats and greedy republicans are continuing to sell our inheritance. ” … and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,” for corporate profit. It doesn’t say bequeath to the chinese and muslims for a reason.

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  3. deanna laurence says:

    all of the illegal voters need to be in the beginning groups of deportees

    Liked by 16 people

    • WSB says:

      Great idea! That says it all…voter fraud would be an excelllent way to start.

      Liked by 6 people

      • singingsoul says:

        I became a citizen five years ago. When I renewed my driver driver license I had to show my citizen paper and they took a copy. They would not accept my American passport.
        In OH we have to show our identification for voting our driver license.
        If one is a citizen it says so on the driver license. An illegal who has a driver license cannot vote because they will not have the driver license citizen do. When one votes they compare the signature also even though they know me.
        I am baffled why anyone who is not a citizen would vote. In NYC my husband said one only needs an envelope of a valid address to vote. In my wildest dreams I would have never voted before becoming a citizen but I come from a culture where rules are in forces and ingrained from childhood on.

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        • WSB says:

          Welcome!

          Yes, NYC seems to be rather lenient. I lived there for many years but never really thought about wide spread fraud until reading CTH. In the rest of NY, the poll workers north of the city do monitor signatures, but who knows if they have an agenda on the side.

          My first question is why anyone except a citizen or a person with a valid Visa who is visiting the country be able to have a driver’s license?

          To answer your question about non-citizens voting, I can only think that a payment of some kind may be motivation.

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      • Libertyvibe says:

        The expense TO US would be to great. The best way to get rid of these people is to cut off all of their benefits. EVERYTHING cut off. It’s called self deportation.

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  4. WSB says:

    lbmomblog posted this on the daily Presidential thread. This is well worth an entire read. Many notes about Wisconsin and the fact of multi-layered fraud.

    If you live in a college town and the students vote, you should be able to force your Board of Elections to review double voting by students. It seems brain washing has its advantages…if the kids like the candidate:

    http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/04/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-in-chicago

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  5. Lanna says:

    Congress passed the REAL ID Act and GWB signed it into law but its enforcement was postponed and states delayed implementing it. Now all states must be in compliance by the end of 2017.

    The Act sets stricter standards on driver’s licenses and ID cards. There are new requirements regarding documents that must be presented to obtain ID or license — ID with full legal name and birth date, valid birth certificate, SS card, proof of legal U.S. citizenship or proof of lawful admittance into or temporary residence within the U.S.

    Interesting that a SS card is specified, don’t think a Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) is acceptable and that’s what many illegals have been using to get around most SS card requirements. The thinking is that these new requirements will cause illegals to self-deport and should stop states from giving licences to illegals.

    A common barcode and security devices will be included in the cards and each state will also be required to share their database with all other states.

    It’s not a national voter ID and the states need to step up and require photo ID for voting. A more conservative SCOTUS will back up voter ID laws.

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    • FL_Guy says:

      Yes, this has been a fact in FL since 2010. After having a license here for 46 years, when it came up for renewal, I had to “prove” who I was. As long as it’s enforced, e.g. wink, wink, nod, nod to certain people, it’s a good thing in my opinion. The problem is that even in states with voter ID, there are voter districts that ignore the rules. It’s time to start prosecuting voting officials who violate the law. A series of random stings and prosecution would put a stop to it pretty fast. It’s also time to start prosecuting supervisors of election when ballots are “found” that should have been accounted for in the first place and they are conveniently 100% for the person demanding the recount, aka the Frankin scam. MAGA

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      • Wookiebush says:

        Or Supervisor having absentee ballot fixing parties ala Brenda Snipes in Broward County.

        Liked by 6 people

        • Lanna says:

          Unionizing public employees has been a proven error, wish we could eliminate them. Teachers were busted a few years ago having report card fixing parties at the principal’s house. I think it was in Atlanta.

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      • Lanna says:

        I think about a quarter of the states are already in compliance. I agree that prosecuting any who engage in any type of election fraud would be key to stopping it. There should be no possibility of any such thing as a ‘found’ ballot either. Maybe GPS on each and every ballot depository?

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      • JoAnn Leichliter says:

        I think Nebraska is in compliance, as I had the same experience, FL_guy. Unfortunately, we issue driver’s licenses to illegal alien “dreamers,” although they probably differ from those issued to citizens. If Trump ditches the unconstitutional dreamer crap, I think those licenses go bye-bye.

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    • psadie says:

      What happens to states like California and others who have been issuing driver’s licenses to illegals all this time? Will those licenses be revoked?

      Liked by 4 people

      • platypus says:

        California has a designation called ‘cancelled’ which it uses for licenses that need to be pulled for non-driving issues.

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        • Lanna says:

          The Act requires states to share their database that includes all information on the license and driving records including tickets and suspensions but excludes non-driving issues.

          I recall back in the day when drivers whose licenses were suspended could get one from another state — Texas, Wyoming or a few others that :O didn’t share information. Database reciprocity closed that loophole.

          I was never a proponent of a national ID card. I don’t like the idea of a central government accumulating information on everyone especially since they’ve proved so incompetent in keeping that information secure. Also, I believe that the greatest danger is from our own government. Census records were only to be used for a count of citizens but were used to round up Japanese U.S. citizens and place them in camps at the start of WWII. SS cards were to be used only for reporting income but now everyone wants that number — banks, credit card companies, credit reporting agencies, insurance companies . . . on and on. And the government is okay with that. At one time here in CO, SS numbers were actually on driver’s licenses and permission slips sent home with school kids had their name, address, birth date and SS number pre-printed on them.

          I realize that ship has sailed, we’re no longer in control of our own information and there’s no privacy anymore. Still, ever since the O.J. trial, I’ve refused to lick the glue strip on an envelope. My family calls it paranoia, I call it protecting my DNA profile. I never toss a used tissue, disposable cup or water bottle into a public trashcan either, so maybe it is paranoia!

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          • 7delta says:

            I’m not a proponent of a National ID either. First, because the federal government has no authority to issue one or to regulate driver’s licenses. It’s a State function. What the feds do need to do is get out of the way of States securing their elections and stop suing States for discrimination and bogus civil rights violations. The States have the authority to determine disabilities and voting mechanism. The Constitution merely prevents discrimination for race, gender or former servitude. As long as the law is administered equally, there’s no Constitutional violation.

            No one’s rights are violated by being required to prove citizenship or alien legal residence. The argument that it does is bogus. Legal aliens have no right to vote anyway. Illegal aliens have no right to be here or to vote. The poor and disenfranchised are further disenfranchised by people who shouldn’t be voting casting ballots. The few citizens with ID problems are easily remedied.

            Second, for the reasons you stated about records being accessible for political manipulation. Anytime the federal government acquires an overreach, it will steadily expand its usurped authority, until it consumes everything it touches to further its agenda.

            There’s a good reason the Constitution limits federal authority and we certainly have plenty of proof that the feds will misuse whatever it can, if it serves whoever is in power from either party. The feds’ job is to secure our borders, uphold the Rule of Law over which it does have authority and to protect our rights, resources, safety, sovereignty and national security.

            We have to push our States to do the right thing, while ignoring the whiny left that believes equality is giving special rights/privileges to anyone they can use to further their agenda, and keep the federal government out of it. It sounds easier to do it through Congress, but it would open a door to abuse we would soon regret. The fight is at the State level.

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            • annieoakley says:

              RE: 7delta. Like

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            • Orygun says:

              I agree and it will remain to be seen if Trump will take the Federal Government back to its roots or not. The ego of man is such that when confronted with power they always think they can wield it wisely not like their predecessors. The temptation is great.

              I am looking for federal intervention on the left coast as the states have been completely taken over by the left and I don’t think they will give them up no matter how the voters vote. If you analyze the vote totals per districts the numbers are highly suspicious of vote tampering. I am hoping that this new administration will insure that our votes count.

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      • Lanna says:

        I’m in CO, they’re also issuing licenses to illegals, sure hope they’d be revoked. I don’t think any state should issue a license to a non-citizen. There used to be an international driver’s license available, any legal non-citizen who wants to drive in the U.S. should be required to get one of those.

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        • singingsoul says:

          I had a green card for 42 years and a driver license. The driver license for green card holders differs from citizens. After I became a citizen I had to show my citizen paper and got a different drive license. This is in OH and I am sure the driver license for illegals differs.
          I do feel however if a person is here illegally they should not have a driver license..

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          • All true. But as I recently learned, at least in my state, Virginia, although photo ID is required, the election officer cannot challenge the voter as to whether they are citizen or not. That (should) have happened at the time of registration.
            For example, when someone comes to vote and so long as their name is on the voter roll, they only need to present a photo ID that has their name on it. It doesn’t have to have the same address as what is listed in the roll.
            Should someone present an ID with markings that they are not a citizen, they cannot be rejected. They are still given a chance to vote, although if the official is sharp, they will give them a provisional ballot, not let them go ahead and put it in the box.
            In California, judging from the way everything else happens out there, I can imagine anyone with a student ID with a photo or employee ID can vote, so long as they managed to get their name on the roll.

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            • dutzie60 says:

              siemp, no voter ID required to vote in California. Just register and show up to vote. The signs outside of polling places are in English and Spanish in my area. Driver license books are printed in many various languages and I think so are the voting ballots.

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        • Tom Paine says:

          Most states, mine included, do not have different DL’s for green card holders.

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  6. paper doll says:

    What I like about the recount nonsense is it got Mr.Trump out of his too nice guy mode! l Maybe he will go back to calling Hillary crooked. lol

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  7. sassymemphisbelle says:

    i’m to the point of all US citizens having to dip a finger in ink to mark their ballots as the newly freed Iraqis did. Those people valued their freedom to vote. Here too many citizens bitch and moan about the time off from work or the lines (this group excluded 😄). And dont get me started on the absurdity of mailing in votes. If you can go to the grocery store in rural areas, you can go to vote in person as well.

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  8. SpanglishKC says:

    Every illegal that votes cancels out an American citizen’s vote. Every politician that allows this directly or indirectly must be held into account. I think PEOTUS election was the start. Much work remains to be done. Never let up on the goals but continue to expand our America First base with our words. We want to keep on winning.

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    • andi lee says:

      That’s the problem – our problem – the uniparty politicians that are embedded in the gvmt, handing out entitlements to each other – passing laws with loopholes for self-gratification.

      Heck. One would think a criminal background check or drug testing would be critical evaluation of our politicians but don’t count on them to pass anything remotely to effect them unless it be a raise. (I mean, seriously, some have claimed they are impoverished by their meager salaries.)

      It chafes where the sun don’t shine!

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  9. EarlPHolt3rd says:

    Send illegal voters home…in a box.

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  10. KBB says:

    Cleaning up the voter rolls is only part of it. Trump needs to implement Federal voter ID requirements that are consistent all across the country, and he needs to do this before the 2018 election. To ensure all citizens can get a voter ID in order to register and to vote, the gov’t would provide free of charge a few “Mobile Voter ID Vans”. They would operate like the “mobile library vans”. Several voter ID vans would travel on a published schedule all over America 2 times per year and go into every nook and cranny of the country. People would go to one when it came to their town, and get a photo ID taken for voter registration and voting. To get a free photo ID, they would be required to present proof of residence in the area where they vote, such as an electric bill.
    Then they need to get rid of elec voting machines, and go back to paper ballots. They also need to get rid of “early” voting. Everyone across the country votes on the same day. Mail ballots available upon proof of need.

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    • PreNanny says:

      While I like your creativity, it is an individuals responsibility to register to vote it is not mandatory nor should anyone be taxed in order to pay for “mobile voter ID vans” .

      100% agree on dialing back the use of absentee ballots as well as voting on same day.
      I would go further and make it a Federal “Holiday” once possibly two days a year one for a primary and one for general election. Willing to negotiate the need for annual and primaries.

      As far as what kind of machines or paper ballots whatever ensures an accurate account of how people voted is good for me. with the thought in mind just because it can be done on a computer does not mean it has to be. Yes on every State should have same method.
      Keep thinking of ways to MAGA KBB. TRUMP is OUR voice we fail him if we just sit back and say I voted for you now you do the work.

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      • Daniel says:

        Indeed. Voting is a right but not “free.” If people believe it is important to do, then they will ensure they do it on their own. No one has handed anything like that to me for free. Local groups will support the mass voter registrations as always… by the bus load. Just can’t wait to see how many people get busted in advance for registering under many different names using facial recognition.

        I am so sick of fraud in voting. It’s absolutely disgusting and the resulting damage to this country and the culture is intolerable.

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    • 7delta says:

      Trump needs to implement Federal voter ID requirements that are consistent all across the country, and he needs to do this before the 2018 election.

      Neither the executive or Congress has the Constitutional authority to implement federal voter ID or require States to implement federal regulations over them. States rebelling against the current National ID law is why it’s never been implemented. The Constitution is on their side, even though obiwon has pushed ahead with trying to get it done.

      I understand the concern everyone has, but this a State authority and I, for one, have had enough of renegade presidents with a phone and a pen (and bad Congresses) that go back further than obiwon. The more power the feds accumulate, usurp from the States, the further we drift into a real tyranny. Power will be abused. Giving them our power to fix what they’ve fostered is a trap. Power is already abused. We know that. At some point, Congress or a president will simply change the rules to allow whomever they want to be included, citizen or not.

      States must be pressured into cleaning up and securing the ballot box. The closer legislation is to the people, the better it will serve them and the State. That’s why the feds don’t have this authority Constitutionally.

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  11. mari says:

    List of possible illegal donations from foreign donors for Jill Stein.

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  12. LP says:

    I am going to say this once, and I’m sure there will be objections from many quarters, however now that the US illegal alien and voting has been raised, Let me digress.

    Hong Kong established an Identity card after 1949. Why? Because of the flood of refugees from the mainland (many displaced Hong Kong people returning but many Mainlanders). It was a crisis situation.

    All Hong Kong legal residents must carry a government ID card at all times. The police may stop anyone and demand to see it and have it verified. The ID requires fingerprints and other data.

    This, of course, was ancillary to claims on government services, but also for tax reasons (cannot flee HK without paying your taxes). A benefit was to root out identity fraud. Many Chinese names are more common than the West’s Smiths, Browns, or Jones, so it was helpful for banks and other institutions to be able to verify personal identity.

    When elections were introduced to the Legislative Council, this made legitimate voter identity easy to verify.

    Folks in the US may find this uncongenial, however if the US wishes to end voter fraud than an ID card is the way to go. However, it must be at the federal level to stop double state residencies, such as the case of students double voting.

    Many US citizens do not have passports, for example. Thus a verified data-based ID card would eliminate fraudulent voting (and much else).

    As for concerns about privacy data, I share them, but in the age of the internet I think this is a moot point.

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    • PreNanny says:

      To me that would be the last resort, perhaps we have come to that point I sure hope not.
      The VAST majority of people voted legally I am loathe to put new requirements on them to do what they have always done: obeyed the laws. People that double voted there is existing law to deal with them and it should be enforced if that involves States sending their election results to a Fed database to expose lets do it, flag the votes and send list to both States and follow up on. I think we need new or more severe laws that address groups and or individuals that advocate or participate in election tampering. States that do not maintain proper voting rolls or worse advocate for non citizens to vote should have their election process taken over by Fed government AND their congressional representatives stripped of a seat in congress until such time the integrity of election is returned.

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      • 7delta says:

        States that do not maintain proper voting rolls or worse advocate for non citizens to vote should have their election process taken over by Fed government AND their congressional representatives stripped of a seat in congress until such time the integrity of election is returned.

        That sounds like a good remedy, but once the feds intervene, getting sovereign authority back to the State is nearly impossible or takes decades and decades. There’s plenty of precedent to logically expect the feds’ reluctance to return authority. The only cause for federal intervention is civil rights violations, as outlined in the Constitution, based on race, gender or former servitude.

        IMO, if State reps refuse to clean up their voting, then file a civil rights suit, a class action suit would be even better, against the State, in State court, for violating your rights, as a citizen, to a fair election. This is not under the feds authority to remedy. I’m sure there are plenty of election lawyers who share your concerns and will know how to bring a solid suit. Legally, States violating their own election laws/Constitution don’t have a leg to stand on. Loudly work to vote out bad reps. This has to be remedied on a State level, or we, the citizens, will lose our authority within our own States and over voting.

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        • PreNanny says:

          I do not know how we are going to make America great again if there are no consequences to intentionally unlawful States at the Federal level. They simply can not be allowed to harm the rest of us. If there is no constitutional authority to smack the hell out of a State that ignores election laws there needs to be. The details can be worked out.

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    • Tom Paine says:

      There is little to no citizenship verification at present in US vote registration. My foreign spouse, who has a driver’s license and social security card, could easily register to vote (she would have to lie and “attest to citizenship”). No normal country has a system like this.

      A passport is a defacto federal ID and proof of citizenship. Instead of creating a new document, issue a passport free to anyone that wants one at age 18.

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  13. Kalena says:

    Let’s go one better. In 2020, if you are here illegally, you don’t get counted in the census for redistricting. That would cause CA to lose several House seats and electoral votes.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Absolutamente’ !!!!!

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      • / says:

        At this point I would be a little careful to make to much noise about voter irregularities until Trump is officially installed as President.
        I am cautious that the next step is taking election to court and saying the election was false because illegals voted. Maybe I am wrong but why open more doors at this point..?
        I do not want another election because this is thrown out as invalid.?
        Lets get through Wisconsin and hope that Stein and Clinton do not make a mess out of it.
        I really do not know much about American voting regulations and recall and recount.

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  14. Time for national biometric ID. I’m sorry to all those people who don’t like big brother. But using state driver’s licenses as a default ID creates more problems than it solves.

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    • Tom Paine says:

      I’ve come to the same conclusion. A passport is a defacto national ID. Issue one to every adult free of charge. Require it to register to vote. Make sure each citizen’s passport number only votes once (that would require a massive upgrade of our election system, which is very local and piecemeal now, allowing lots of fraud).

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  15. wodiej says:

    Keep flippin’ those middle fingers but soon the law will be enforced.

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  16. cactusclyde says:

    Amendment to Constitution: must prove citizenship to register and i.d. to vote.

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    • Daniel says:

      That would be about the only way we could get that to stick — minimum requirements to register to vote. Any law would be challenged and killed in the Supreme Court. Sad that we would have to do a constitutional amendment just to enforce common sense. It’s already in the US Constitution that voters should be citizens.

      The US Constitution stated in Amendment XV, which was ratified by the states in 1870: “Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.”

      That states are ignoring that requirement should be actionable. The electoral votes should be rejected in all states which do not faithfully comply with that requirement.

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  17. Chgonana539 says:

    A few years ago I learned from a co-worker (who related this as though it was a good thing) that when her relatives arrived from Mexico they would go to our Little Village neighborhood and purchase a SS card for $25. So when we hear about the hardworking illegals who don’t cause any trouble think of ID theft and the shaky status of our SS system. Where did these SS numbers come from? We are being scammed at unbelievable levels and no one enforces the laws. Thank God for DJ Trump.

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  18. trapper says:

    Don’t have time to check all the replies to see if this has been posted already. Apologies if it has.
    The authors’ response to their critics:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/11/02/do-non-citizens-vote-in-u-s-elections-a-reply-to-our-critics/

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  19. Tom Paine says:

    HERE’S THE PROBLEM (sorry for all caps):

    We don’t verify citizenship as part of the vast majority of voter registration in the US.

    We’ve got at least 20 million foreign residents in the US (legal and illegal). All it really takes to register to vote in most of the US is a photo ID and some secondary ID like a paycheck stub, a utility bill, etc plus “attesting” to being a citizen. The 13+ million legal foreign residents definitely have the documents, the 10+ (?) million illegals often have them. So, it’s just a matter of lying.

    We really REALLY need to get our voter registration system done properly. The only national proof of citizenship document I am aware of is a passport and most people don’t have one.

    Trump is correct, obviously, and the fact that we have no means of providing he’s right or wrong is exactly the problem. Our voting system is very halfassed!

    http://www.ajc.com/news/state–regional-govt–politics/appeals-court-nixes-proof-citizenship-for-voting-georgia/wq0WTs7FtiqWeQQNHldaPP/

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  20. Christine says:

    RECOUNT CA, NEV, VIR = VOTER ID FOR ALL PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS
    Trump should ask for a recount in California, Nevada and Virginia; show the world the corruption of dead people voting and Illegal Immigrants. Show the video of Obama encouraging illegal people to vote.

    Than give a National News Conference stating the Constitution States only citizens are allowed to vote and therefore to protect our Country, Constitution and the Men/Woman who gave their life to protect our freedoms; I will now require Voter ID for all Presidential Elections.

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  21. EVERYTIME I watch this clip, I am amazed at the words/phrasing he uses; then with the look on her face, I can’t decide if she is gratified that he is humoring her or confused by his words as well.

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  22. Iveyredneck says:

    The report says there are 20 million noncitizen adults and that about 20% told a pollster they are registered to vote. So 4 million admit they are registered voters. The academics who authored the study played games by reducing the 4 million based on whether the researchers were able to verify registration on voter rolls, and then called the latter the “conservative” figure. Actually, the real “conservative” figure is the 4 million who actually admitted to the pollster that they are registered to vote.

    Far from shedding light, this study is cleverly designed to conceal the real magnitude of the problem. Unfortunately, that does not come out adequately in the post or in the comments.

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    • The Richman study has been discredited as unreliable by scientists since it was published in 2014, for two obvious flaws in methodology:
      1. Far too small a sample. (The authors admit their sample is “modest”.)
      2. It’s “self-reported” data, i.e. just an opinion poll.

      For a study to be regarded as valid, others have to be able to replicate the data, and the numbers have to be based on objective measurement. You can’t rely on a single study for anything, no matter what it says. Like a single poll with numbers no one else’s matches, it’s an outlier. You might remember that single study “proving” a link between the MMR vaccine and autism.

      Maybe there are lots of non-citizen voters, maybe not. It remains an open question, scientifically. It’s irresponsible to rely on this study as evidence either for or against.

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      • You clearly have no understanding of the scientific method. A study’s not having been replicated does not invalidate the results of that study. Replication is simply a path to reaching scientific consensus surrounding an issue. Furthermore, neither sample size, nor less than ideal methodology invalidate a study. Sample size and methodology can be used to gauge the reliability / strength of studies, but not to invalidate them

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  23. Abster says:

    Each time I see that picture of those filthy pigs flipping us all off I want to throw up. Don’t forget they have kids, too. Can’t imagine how many more we want to welcome. What insanity..

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