Why Did The IRS Give The Dept. of Justice Twenty One CD-ROM’s?….

In October 2015 the DOJ announced it was dropping the investigation into the IRS, Lois Lerner, and the unlawful sharing of taxpayer data in the IRS targeting investigation surrounding True The Vote et al.

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As a direct consequence of the DOJ decision, congressional inquiry into the IRS targeting matter seemingly dropped from the radar.

However, if you draw a line from the original intent of the entire enterprise, the post-2010 mid-term “shellacking”/”secret research project“, forward to the 2016 election cycle an interested observer might still be left asking:

“why did the IRS, through Lois Lerner, deliver the 1+ million pages of tax filings, to include the entire donor list of Tea Party and patriot groups, through 21 CD-ROMs and not by electronic data transfer.  Information that was specifically sent to Eric Holder and the U.S. Department of Justice”?

This is an obvious question which, despite the numerous congressional hearings on the matter, was never asked – nor answered.

The entire scheme is riddled with complexity; almost too complex for the average person to understand, and seriously difficult to summarize.  However, when you boil it down here’s the essential components that are no longer suspicion or supposition, but factually provable:

As a result of a trillion dollar stimulus filled with scheme and graft; and as a result of Obamacare being similarly schemed in backroom deals and late night votes;  President Obama was “shellacked” in the November 2010 election.

The White House didn’t see the defeat a flawed policy issue; rather as the entrenched ideologues they are, they saw the SCOTUS case “citizens united” as the principle tool used by the White House opponents to organize and fund political movements, ie. the tea party.

The Obama Team response to the 2010 Shellacking was to use the Dept. of Justice (AG Eric Holder) to weaponize the IRS and go after groups -like Tea Party Groups- organized under the financial umbrella of 501(c)(4) donation structuring.

Years later, when the scheme was discovered – the White House denied knowledge (“not even a smidgen of corruption”), the DOJ feigned ignorance, and the IRS began working overtime trying to hide the construct of the prior communication, planning and strategy.

  • The head of IRS tax exempt division, Louis Lerner, pled the Fifth.
  • Obama’s Chief of Staff Jack Lew was made Treasury Secretary (IRS is sub division of Treasury Dept.) where he was/is able to continue hiding information.
  • And Eric Holder constructed a team of DOJ lawyers to isolate, hide and manipulate the trail of evidence within the DOJ.

Just before the IRS targeting scheme was fully discovered/comprehended, and seemingly overlooked by any curious media enterprise, in February 2013 representative Maxine Waters said:

“The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life. That’s going to be very, very powerful. That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get  around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place.” (link)

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Against, the backdrop of new information which proves the UniParty, both dems and republicans, benefitted from the targeting of the Tea Party and oppositional forces; and with the full comprehension that Mitch McConnell and the republican leadership organized a post Citizens United strategy to work around their financial dependency on the electorate via Super-PACs; aren’t you just a little bit curious what the purpose was to assemble a data-base or “Secret Research Project“?

Lois Lerner’s and other IRS officials’ concerns about how to handle these donor lists came on the heels of an advisory from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) to her and other IRS officials in late March 2012 of “an audit we plan to conduct of the IRS’s process for reviewing applications for tax exemption by potential section 501(c)(4), 501(c)(5), and 501(c)(6) organizations.”

March 2012 “audit we plan to conduct” was the IG notification for a pending investigation of IRS.  Specifically of their handling of Conservative Groups filing applications and status.

We all know the result of that investigation was a finding the IRS was indeed targeting conservative groups – hence the IRS scandal erupted in the headlines.

However, far more troubling were later discoveries into the internal communications which suggested much more nefarious activity regarding the assembly of secret lists, the “Secret Research Project”.

An undertaking by both the Obama Administration and the DOJ together with the IRS began to surface.

The American Center for Law and Justice put it thusly:   We know the IRS unconstitutionally targeted conservative groups.  We know they illegally demanded, obtained, and held the donor lists of these conservative organizations.  Now we learn that in 2012, the height of the targeting, the IRS was involved in a “secret research project” with this confidential, illegally obtained donor information.

That’s more than a big deal.  It’s potentially criminal.

The very fact that the IRS was using the phrase “secret research project” should give every American pause.  But the fact that this project was conducted as part of a well-orchestrated effort to target and silence conservative Americans is utterly disturbing.

Now, again, ask yourself:  Why would Lois Lerner be delivering 21 CD-ROMs of data, lists of every American who joined arms with the Tea Party, to Eric Holder in the DOJ instead of just transferring that data over their internal computer systems?

WASHINGTON […] “After the Justice Department turned over the database to the Oversight Committee this month in response to a subpoena, the Justice Department says it was informed by IRS officials that it contains legally protected taxpayer information that should not have ever been sent to the FBI and it now plans to return the full database to the IRS,” a statement from the oversight committee said.

According to material obtained by the committee, the IRS sent the FBI “21 disks constituting a 1.1 million page database of information from 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.”

The transaction occurred in October 2010.  (link)

If you wonder why the entire corrupt DC political class is openly in opposition to candidate Donald J Trump…. well,…

ask the right questions

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105 Responses to Why Did The IRS Give The Dept. of Justice Twenty One CD-ROM’s?….

  1. Coast says:

    I believe that the illegal use of federal agencies to unlawfully target and stifle conservative groups is and will be the largest scandal of any President. Sadly our system totally failed due to overwhelming corruption.

    Liked by 30 people

    • The Boss says:

      The Obama legacy is monumental scandal and corruption.

      Liked by 14 people

      • jackphatz says:

        All we can hope for is this be a fact for the rest of times: “The Obama legacy is all monumental scandal and corruption, morally bankrupt.”

        Someday when history books are printing facts again this should be required National History reading.

        Liked by 8 people

      • Daniel says:

        Obama is a symptom of the problem. Many have rightfully pointed out the sins of both democrats and republicans acting alike and in service of one another. Hence “uniparty.”

        Again, the whigs and the democrats were a uniparty which resulted in the creation of the republican party. It’s like like we haven’t seen this before.

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      • Mark Matis says:

        The “Weepy” legacy and the Post Turtle legacy and the Lyin’ Ryan legacy is the other end of that same steaming turd of scandal and corruption.

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    • joebal says:

      the truly incredible thing is there is not any actual interest in this from the GOP establishment, but then you realize the words of people like McCain and McConnell, “we are going to squash them(the tea party)” and you realize the uniparty is all we are really talking about here.

      Liked by 26 people

      • Joe Collins says:

        It would be fun to knock McCain out in the primary so it may be worth a few bucks as a campaign contribution to his Repub opponents.

        Liked by 7 people

      • mimbler says:

        Yep, that’s when the veil dropped from my eyes. Before then, I couldn’t understand why the Repubs couldn’t see what was going on. In actuality, I’m now convinced they were accomplices,
        Mike

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      • Rurik says:

        Remember Marshal Philippe Petain was one of France’s greatest heroes in 1918. Only 28 year later he was a traitor sentenced to death by France for Treason. The time lag since heroism has been longer.for McCain.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Kroesus says:

          John McCain was never a hero…..getting captured by being shot down doing your job is in no way heroic…..rumors are he sang like a canary while in the Hanoi Hilton and only his Admiral daddy saved him from an aiding and abetting charge

          Liked by 2 people

          • Rurik says:

            I was yielding that term for the sake of discussion. Fact is those of us on the ground down south faced even worse if captured – death and mutilation, hopefully in that order. And I’ve met POWs, such as Mike Benge, who never broke.

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      • pawatcher says:

        Isn’t it remarkable how Cruz has latched onto TEA patriots and is handing them over to the GOPe to be crushed.
        Did Cruz’ grassroots TEA patriots see this coming, were they complicit uniparty participants already?
        I’m in awe when I see the absolute hate Cruz supporters have for fellow TEA patriots that support Trump- they not only hate Trump they hate US. The GOPe has been very successful in dismantling the TEA movement through division. Cruz is delivering a once great group of patriots to the uniparty globalists.

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    • patrickhenryrevisited says:

      Term limits stifle corruption.
      How many of the overwhelming number of lawyers {in every branch of government} have you heard support term limits?

      Liked by 12 people

      • Sanj says:

        Ive never been sure about that. Sometimes I wonder officials are term limited, it makes the puppet masters even more powerful since they are the permanent class.

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        • patrickhenryrevisited says:

          The puppet masters become less powerful and influential when the lawmakers {who protect them and their schemes} are held more accountable by the attrition that term limits provide.
          Voting an incumbent out of office {that has no term limits} is no small task.

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          • aparition42 says:

            I concur. In congress alone there are about 70 politicians that have had the seat they’re currently in for more than twenty years. There are 12 members of congress that have been in congress one way or another for longer than I’ve been alive. There will be more than 400 congressional elections this November, but only a handful are even considered “in play”. That’s why I prefer the term “entrenched” to “establishment”. These people have no fear of a lost presidential election. Presidents come and go, but the entrenched D.C. elite are there for life.

            I once had a Commanding Officer tell me during a “welcome aboard” briefing, “For the first six months, you’re part of the solution. After that, you’re part of the problem.” His point being that if you haven’t spoken up and done something to instigate change during that time frame, you’ve become complicit in allowing things to continue. Any congressperson who’s been in office for more than eight years is clearly part of the problem.

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        • Rurik says:

          Particularly their staff assistants, generally political science grads, with Masters degrees.
          Consider the Britcom “Yes Minister”, portraying the relationship between the cabinet minister and his permanent civil service secretary.

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        • Rather than just limiting the time someone can be an elected federal servant of the people, I would suggest that federal laws, and federal agencies, also be time-limited.

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      • AMD_Afficionado says:

        Term limits don’t stifle corruption. The uniparty has no shortage of new faces to implement the same policies, just look at all the “tea party” challengers who won and then went RINO in DC (it’s almost all of them).

        Or, look at the Presidency, which is term limited. Different names, same corruption, for decades now.

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    • the irs is not even a federal agency. the 16th amendment gave congress NO new powers of taxation. it’s all connected to the “fed” which is neither federal nor a reserve. there is a lot of work to do, and it must be minds that are first “locked and loaded”.

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      • Patriot1 says:

        You are correct. In order for Central Bank (private entity) to lend money they needed collateral. Hence taxing everyone. England’s Central Bank did it first.

        Liked by 9 people

        • Kroesus says:

          the power of taxation is not the collateral….the PEOPLE are….this is one of the theory about why they allow unfettered immigration (legal and illegal)….. a larger population base means more collateral meaning a larger loan amount

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    • Rurik says:

      If an Other Than Democrat administration takes office in 2017, what will happen to this information? Will copies be made and retained? And by whom? For what likely, and even possible purposes? Enemies lists? target lists? Remember Hillary and Filegate.

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      • Dixie says:

        They certainly had plenty of time to make as many copies of the full database as they wanted between 2010 and now when supposedly it is being returned to the irs. Right.

        WTH is the point when the damage has already been done. China or Russia probably has obama’s database by now since the government is so lax, they can’t keep any information secured. A bunch of dangerous traitorous teeny boppers are running this country.

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    • Ray says:

      And even more sadly, there is little chance it will ever be fixed or anyone held accountable for all that has gone on.

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  2. RangerDoc says:

    This administration is basically an “ongoing criminal enterprise.” Woe be unto us if clinton assumes the helm.

    Liked by 15 people

  3. BobW462 says:

    IRS, DOJ, etc… There are so many dead leaves on the tree. But, rather than wait for them to fall one at a time, and rake them up pile by pile, Trump will just cut the whole tree down and plant another.

    Liked by 17 people

  4. I have chills. This is absolutely the most exciting time in American history. Like Trump, we are all going to be asked to take a stand.

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  5. TheLastDemocrat says:

    I followed the IRS scandal a bit, but I do not know it well.

    I don’t know if this post gives a rhetorical question but I, myself, do not know why Lerner sent these 22 cds. First, if you send physical media, there is no electronic trail.

    So, why? What good is it for a Dem president to know who donates to Tea Party groups?

    Possibly, to share the info with Repubs as part of the effort to have a well-defined Republican Party that plays well with others – TPP, immigration, etc. –The Dems were helping get the Tea Party out of the way of the Old Guard GOP.

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  6. Hannibal Toissant Beauregard IV says:

    The CDs also prevent the information from being lost or compromised via virus or other hacking.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Hannibal Toissant Beauregard IV says:

      add: It does provides limitations to the information by updates.

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    • JAS says:

      Don’t believe for a second that those CD’s were not copied and are now in multiple hard drives. And by the way CD’s don’t hold a lot of information and are obsolete. A CD holds anywhere from 650 to 900 Megabytes. 21 CD’s easily fit on a single memory stick, even on any 32GB cell phone.

      That horse (data) left the barn a long time ago.

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      • Hannibal Toissant Beauregard IV says:

        That was my point. Copied and disseminated under the radar. No little electron trail.

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        • Malatrope says:

          We who do software for a living refer to this method as the SneakerNet. Originally meaning that you wear our your sneakers walking it around, it has the dual meaning that it’s stealthy (“sneaky”) and highly secure.

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    • Dixie says:

      The stupid imbeciles probably put the information on computers so it’s fair game for anybody who wants it.

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  7. Libertati Aut Ad Mortem says:

    The Federal Government is corrupt beyond even the wildest Politburo manipulation. If Trump cannot restore some semblance of morality and adherence to the rule of law, then a Jacobin revolution shall be necessary and every IRS official shall have his judgement in front of a reincarnated Maximilien Robespierre.

    Liked by 6 people

  8. Shadrach says:

    Regarding specifically the CD-Roms vs electronic databases, it could be that they had no method of encryption (see OPM data breach) for sharing electronically such a large amount of personally identifying information.

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  9. PATrumpsupporter says:

    Scary. Depressing. Trump will have his hands full. I think massive civil unrest is more likely every day.

    Liked by 4 people

    • Malatrope says:

      And as confused and argumentative as the endless factions are, on “our side” and “their side”, that is anything but a comforting thought. There is no guarantee whatever that a government satisfying to free men everywhere would result from a civil war. It could as easily resemble Stalin steeped in Orwell.

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    • NC Patriot says:

      The “something big” is a headline teaser–because there is no comment from the Trump people.

      Liked by 1 person

    • runthetable says:

      Nothing like a sensational word salad link.

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    • PATrumpsupporter says:

      Sounds good to me! Carson may be politically naive, but certainly is not part of the GOPe. Would be fun to flip the race card back at the dems. My main beef with Carson was that he didn’t have the fire in the belly to win in November. Trump can hire all the talent he needs to get things done once in office.

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  10. saywhat64 says:

    And the coverup by the Uni-Party of 8 concerning gun running in Benghazi is another example of the party of one who think they are all above the law and only in the game for themselves.tack..

    The more vicious they become in their attacks against the Donald, the more likely that President Trump will expose all the criminals and will allow an honest DOJ to do it’s job.

    At this point, the fear within the criminal political elites is becoming desperately delicious…

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  11. SkarnkaiLW says:

    This story made me recall one of the papers that was discussed in Development Economics class. http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/chang-tai.hsieh/research/maisanta_april%202009_final.pdf

    For those who don’t want to read an econ paper, in short there was an attempt to recall Hugo Chavez in 2004. The voters who voted for the recall against Chavez had their information recorded in a database which was distributed on CDs for political payback purposes. I guess the White House decided to take the lessons to heart.

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  12. angryduc says:

    Creepy….. like Ted Cruz creepy on roids … even evil

    Liked by 1 person

  13. peachteachr says:

    Our President ‘weaponized’ one of government’s most powerful agencies and used it against their political opponents. That is the dangerous world we live in today.

    Liked by 1 person

  14. Sam says:

    There is an off-site database somewhere run by Uniparty operatives to mine that data on the CDs. Data by itself on CDs cannot be effectively mined. I don’t know who is running it but it exists and Democrats have access to it. Maybe some of the GOPe have access too or can request lists and reports from it. No way something that valuable is just sitting on CDs on a shelf somewhere in th e FBI.

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  15. JTR says:

    I just signed up to volunteer for the Trump campaign knowing full well I’ll end up on a list somewhere and probably get audited again. That’s ok, he’s risking his life for this so the least I can do is try to help in any small way that I can.

    Liked by 8 people

  16. jeans2nd says:

    Happily, True the Vote seems to be continuing asking questions, despite all the goings-on of this administration, at least in Ohio. They settled one lawsuit in 2014 “Judicial Watch, True the Vote Reach Historic Settlement with State of Ohio in Lawsuit over Clean Voter Rolls” https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/ohiovotersettlement/
    and is still going strong in 2016 “Phony ACORN voter registrations discovered in Ohio”
    “11th of March 2016…confirming that nearly a third of all records in question were furnished by ACORN or Organizing for America…” https://truethevote.org/true-vote-week-31116
    You must give these folks credit, they are fearless.

    Liked by 7 people

  17. KBR says:

    I find this part of the Maxine Waters comment intriguing: “President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database…”

    They’re going down?

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    • WSB says:

      I think she was referring to the info being exposed and that the originators were from the Democratic WH.

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      • KBR says:

        She may not have meant it the way I (intentionally) took it, but I think she was prophetic without realizing it. They are going down.
        Wonder just who might have a copy of those CD’s?

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  18. Information on CD’s just sounds so odd.
    But then I looked on the interwebs and low and behold CD’s are immune to EMP’s.

    So is this a message to someone; we’ve got your info, and we’ve removed the EMP option?

    Note to self; “Come on Sunshine, hold it together. Resist the urge to click over to madness.”

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    • JeremyR says:

      CDs are also harder to detect. Memory sticks and SD cards produce a signature and also show up on x-ray equipment.

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      • Gabriel says:

        Has nothing to do with that.

        This is actually a common practice used by some govt. agencies. Some of the systems that they develop, are very specialized and contain such sensitive information that the networks involved, are not connected to a subnet, they are totally off the grid so that the information can not be hacked by anyone, foreign or domestic. There is no internet connectivity and no connection to the outside world on these specialized networks making them 100% secure.

        Since there is no connectivity to the outside world, the data that the system uses, ( usually contained on the CD’s ), has to be brought in by a courier, dropped off, decompressed and decrypted, and loaded into the database that way. As opposed to having a direct IP connection to the data source, and then having it “pulled” into the system. By eliminating the IP “pull” it eliminates any chance of anyone intercepting the data between the source and the target.

        The systems that utilize this way of data transfer, the data is so highly sensitive, ( with a Top Secret classification ), that while development is being done, if the cleaning lady comes around to empty trash cans at everyone’s workstation, everyone has to shut their monitors off and wait, until she leaves the room.

        The development is done by contractors, ( cleared with Top Secret clearances ), project is always managed by the government. At the work sight, the contractors have to wait for government to arrive before they can go in, badges do not give them access to go inside.

        The work sites themselves are highly classified and secured, you sometimes even have to go through a set of “blast” doors to get inside.

        If you saw the data that was being processed, your jaw would hit the floor, and I’m not even talking about the IRS related data.

        Don’t ask me how I know.

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        • chrystalia99 says:

          I won’t ask how you know, but I will say you are correct😉

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        • yakmaster2 says:

          Gabriel, thanks for your comment.
          Most people don’t consider that NSA and possibly other agencies have their own servers, routers and satellite resulting in a closed system not connected to the Internet. Obviously, this is to make them Genius Hacker proof—no remote way of breaking inside. For those agencies whose files are not within such a closed system, CD Roms make sense for storing and sharing databases without leaving a trail.
          (PS. I learned this from my recent reading of the book “The Girl In The Spider Web,” 4th book in the famous Millenium series ☺)

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          • Gabriel says:

            By doing data transfers by way of the “Nike Network”, ( data is delivered by person ), it eliminates those pesky logs that get generated by FTP and SFTP, indicating the IP’s of who sent what when, and who received what when.

            Even those that use these systems, the USB ports are disabled, or read only, and there are no optical drives that write, just read.

            Very secure. Not saying there’s anything fishy going on, the overwhelming majority of govt. workers in these agencies are good and honest people, just explaining why CD’s or DVD’s are used in cases like this.

            DOJ could have been investing tax fraud for all I know, which is perfectly legit, and if they were investigating me, I would not want my information available to anyone.

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          • Esperanza says:

            Or you could have watched Battlestar Galactica🙂

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        • JeremyR says:

          I built and maintained computers for several law firms. They were the same way. Since there was critical client data contained on them, they could not risk a hack.If the office had an internet connection, It was one computer, and it was separate from all others. They had concerns about the security scanners at the court house as well. magnetic media such as memory sticks and even the old floppy discs could be damaged by the scanners at the court house.. CDs are optical, not magnetic read though and that means visual contact to scan them.
          They were pretty serious about security for their clients. When I replaced a hard drive, the old one went into a storage closet.

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          • Gabriel says:

            You are correct, magnetic media can tend to be “fragile” in certain situations. You ever want to give payback to someone, ( that deserves it of course, say Hillary ), take their smartphone, or in her case a Blackberry, and set it on top of a speaker magnet for a few seconds.

            By the way, there are times working in a closet doesn’t sound too bad, isolated, no distractions, easy to get your work done. Just need to make sure to have enough room for your personal coffee maker !

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  19. Joe says:

    Here’s the problem: our fellow Americans, political enemies, do not care.

    They openly support the undermining of the constitution.

    Now what do we do?

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  20. Robert Pilchman says:

    “You Can’t Live Here If You Are Voting For Donald Trump” — http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/03/20/grand-junction-apartment-donald-trump/ THEY ARE VICIOUS FIGHTERS

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  21. Joe's Dad says:

    Just more proof that EVERY action Obama & Co. makes/made is for the destruction of the sovereign U.S. and it’s transformation into a socialist country, thus becoming the most critical component in the creation/execution of a globalist NWO.

    Important to remember, however, is that Obama & the Uniparty are still just puppets in this grand diabolical scheme; it’s scum the likes of Soros etc. that use their money & power to inflict these maneuvers.

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  22. Frank O'Pinion says:

    Republicans are in lockstep and have colluded with the Democrats in all criminal matters against the citizens of the U.S.A., including the usurpation of the office of the POTUS by Barack HUSSEIN Obama on January 20, 2009.

    Donald J. Trump’s nemisis, Rafael E. Cruz is also attempting to usurp this Executive Branch. Stop Cruz. He is not U.S. Constitution, Article II eligible.

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  23. Somebody still has that info…..CD’s are sooooo easy to copy and with no paper trail.

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  24. gonzotx says:

    Pretty terrifying

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  25. No thanks says:

    This site has been chronicling the IRS scandal since day one: taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2016/03/the-irs-scandal-day-1047.html

    Thought it might be of some use to someone w time to research

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  26. tammy says:

    The corruption of our goverment goes clear down to the bone! Religion is the bone I guess! TRUMP/USA/LAST HOPE!

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  27. angryduc says:

    I wonder if this was the magical data base that Hillary and Sanders were fighting over.

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