UPDATED – Benghazi Follow-Up: Who Told Ben Rhodes To Lie About U-Tube Video ? Our Research Provides The Answer…

update-1The latest discovery of the Ben Rhodes email structuring the Benghazi Talking Points for U.N Ambassador Susan Rice to use on the post Benghazi attack Sunday Talk Shows confirms even more evidence into the White House cover up.

However, with that ‘Rhodes’ smoking gun email, people are asking who directed Ben Rhodes to deliver the false narrative about the Benghazi Attack and the lies about the U-Tube video.

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For over a year-and-a-half we have researched both the attack itself, and the surrounding story coordinated by the various players in and out of the White House.

Within our research we can answer the question:

“Who above Ben Rhodes told him to create the lie”?

If you want to know the answer you must absorb the entire construct, as it developed, because as you are well aware it’s fraught with various degrees of separation and ass covering.

So we’ll walk you through the process to the exact moment when the U-Tube video narrative was first announced, and who announced it.   We’ll also prove not only who inside the White House created it, but provide the evidence to rebuke any indication it could have been created outside of the White House.

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Back in January 2013 we posted a discussion around a newly released photo from the White House. The picture was taken in the oval office on Sept 11th 2012, the date of the Benghazi attack – but the picture was NOT released until after the election and was dumped in a random White House “year in review” pictorial.

At the time we thought the picture was worth a thousand words. After research, and with the hindsight of the latest revelations, it appears we were correct. Yet again, it provides more sunlight into the events surrounding the Benghazi, Libya events and who made the critical decisions in those moments of crisis.   But more importantly for the sake of U-tube lies you can see the origin unfold.

At 5pm-5:30pm, according to the White House and President Obama himself, President Obama was set for a prior scheduled meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Chairman of Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey.

It was just prior to this meeting that White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon tells President Obama of the attack and the fire at the main villa.   The meeting with Panetta and Dempsey lasted about an hour.

Following the meeting with Panetta, Dempsey and Donilon, at  6:30pm President Obama and Joe Biden took a previously scheduled phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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(Sept. 11, 2012)”Denis McDonough, Deputy National Security Advisor, left, updates the President and Vice President on the situation in the Middle East and North Africa. National Security Advisor Tom Donilon and Chief of Staff Jack Lew are at right.” (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

The picture above was taken at exactly 7:28:16pm DC time. It was dusk outside, and President Obama had just completed a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Why is this important?

Because we know the conversation with Obama, Biden and Netanyahu lasted an hour.

Sept 11, 2012 President Obama spoke with Prime Minister Netanyahu for an hour tonight as a part of their ongoing consultations. The two leaders discussed the threat posed by Iran’s nuclear program, and our close cooperation on Iran and other security issues. (link)

So we know the phone call began around 6:30pm and ended just before 7:28pm.

What is equally important is what was taking place in Libya (Benghazi) during the time the Netanyahu phone call took place.

The attack against the CIA/State Dept. Consulate began at 3:40pm D.C. time. So this phone call between Benjamin Netanyahu and President Obama started three hours after the attack began.

What is also revealing about this photograph is who was where, why, and what decisions were being made.

It might seem odd that both President Obama and Vice-President Biden would simultaneously be tied up, especially given the information about the Benghazi attack which took place just prior to the call itself.

Indeed, in our research, the decision not to postpone the call may be identified as the exact moment when the Benghazi attack, as a ‘Political Bomb’, actually ignited.

Arguably, it is a breach of previously established security protocols for this exact “crisis” and “leadership need” reason.

But, they are used to doing it all the time – and besides, what are the odds of something actually being *THAT* urgent while they are both engaged, and needing one of them immediately.

A massive political reason not to postpone the call is because the political media were beginning to pose the question about Netanyahu and Obama’s relationship.

Indeed the odds are generally slim that one of them would be immediately needed for a crisis decision.   Slim, however, in hindsight this was one of those moments when it actually existed; and had massive consequences.

You can see the phone notes in the hands of Joe Biden.    If you enhance the picture and zoom in on the notes you can see they are notes, in Biden’s handwriting, of the phone call discussion contents between Netanyahu and Obama.

Whether or not BiBi knew Biden was also on the call is unknown, but he was indeed taking copious notes.

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(on the left you see the notes from Biden 9/11/12 – on the right you see notes from Biden taken during the Vice-Presidential debate)

Context of Netanyahu Phone Call: It is important to remember how much flack President/Candidate Obama was getting from the opposition about his previously ignoring Netanyahu around the BiBi United Nations speech.

This call was perceived as important by both the Obama Campaign and White House advisors to a defensive pro-Israel narrative. It could not be skipped by a candidate needing to assure the Jewish electorate of his Israel-Cred. So from 6:30pm to 7:28 pm both Vice-President, Joe Biden, and President Obama, were “indisposed”.

This phone call took place between 12:30pm and 1:28am Benghazi time. Again, three hours after the attack began at 9:40pm. By the time the picture was taken at 7:28pm (DC) Ambassador Stevens was widely known to be missing – perhaps killed.

According to numerous reports, in Benghazi, around the same time, CIA operatives and former SEAL’s Tyrone Woods and Glenn Doherty were returning from the Consulate complex to the CIA annex with the body of State Dept. Aide to Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith. Ambassador Stevens was missing.

Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith

Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith

In Libya, during this Oval Office Netanyahu call, U.S. Security and contracted CIA security were setting up defensive positions on the roof of the CIA annex building and maintaining a defensive perimeter while calling for more support.

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So we know POTUS and VPOTUS were out-of-the-decision-loop. Who was making the decisions on behalf of the Commander In Chief?

Back to the timeline – and remember, this is the TIMED VERSION initially released to the media:

(5 p.m. D.C.): Just ahead of the weekly meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Chairman of Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey, White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon tells President Obama of the attack and the fire at the main villa….

(6:07 p.m. D.C): An alert from the State Dept. Operations Center states that the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli reports the Islamic military group “Ansar al-Sharia Claims responsibility for Benghazi Attack”… “on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli.”

(6:30 p.m. D.C.) : The Pentagon issues an order to a special operations team in Europe to move to Sigonella, Sicily – less than one hour’s flight away from Benghazi…. [Obama and Biden are now on the phone with Netanyahu] Who is in charge?

(7 p.m. D.C.): The first of two unmanned U.S. Predator drones, which already had been flying over eastern Libya, is diverted to Benghazi, as reported by CBS News’ Sharyl Attkisson and David Martin on Oct. 15. [Obama and Biden are still on the phone with Netanyahu] Who is in charge?

(7:30 p.m. D.C.): A U.S. security team from Embassy Tripoli lands in Benghazi and learn that the ambassador is missing. They try to arrange for transportation into town, with the goal of locating Stevens. [Phone call over – Obama and Biden are being updated by Denis McDonough as per the picture]

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But who was representing the Commander In Chief ? During that critical hour?

This is where you begin to find the origin of the U-Tube Narrative.

(From 2011) With little to no experience guiding them, everything becomes a first-impression type situation to Obama’s inner crew. To the point, Henry Kissinger reportedly, refers to Obama’s group of advisers as, “kids.” […]

One of Obama’s closest advisers is his Deputy National Security Adviser. The person acting the part of Deputy National Security Adviser is one Denis McDonough. While McDonough enjoys the credentials of a well-educated 41-year-old, he has sparse work experience. Working on the hill as a legislative aide before transferring to a liberal think tank before campaigning for Obama before becoming Deputy National Security Adviser, is good for McDonough but embarrassing to the position which he holds. […]

McDonough has a reputation around D.C. – as a rabid mind-fixer in his mission to ‘set the record straight’ with democratic politicians and mainstream media types, who dare veer off the political reservation. It’s rather humorous in a way to see a glorified political functionary like McDonough act the part of a seasoned and experienced political heavyweight. McDonough was promoted out of ideological loyalty over convention. Try telling McDonough that and he’ll likely piss ideological vinegar all over you. But the thing with McDonough’s verbal piss, it doesn’t stain things, it can’t… it’s too inexperienced.

Above said, guess who is guiding Obama on the crisis in Egypt and the pending melt-down in the Middle East? If you guessed the low cal aperitivo named Denis McDonough, you would be correct. The United States’ official response to the crisis in Egypt has so far been one big massive embarrassment. President Obama is getting bad advice; advice that is fueling his ideological ego; advice that is clearly immature in nature and devoid of geopolitical experience. (link)

Perhaps this insight from Newt Gingrich , after he spoke to a “key senator” provides some clarity to the “fog”. Gingrich shared this information during an unrelated interview:

“There is a rumor — I want to be clear, it’s a rumor — that at least two networks have emails from the National Security Adviser’s office [Denis McDonough? or Tom Donilon?] telling a counterterrorism group to stand down,” [Newt] Gingrich said.” (link)

Newt Gingrich was specifically talking about his knowledge of a communication known by at least one Senator, and given to two media outlets – who did not use it. It makes sense:

Did Denis McDonough and Tom Donilon tell Pentagon people to “stand down or wait” while POTUS and VPOTUS were on the phone with BiBi and unable to be interrupted ?

At 7:28pm (DC) 1:30am (Benghazi)  Denis McDonough was bringing POTUS and VPOTUS up to speed.  At that exact moment, events in Benghazi had spiraled. What took place next, and why they did nothing is unknown.

Perhaps, as they later espoused ad infinitum, they considered it too late, after all, this 7:28pm update probably revealed the status of Ambassador Stevens as “Missing presumed Dead”.

Damage control time….. Here comes the first origin of the talking points everyone is now attaching to Communications Director Ben Rhodes…..

Denis McDonough, “the fixer” provided the cover story.

[Pictured:  Ben Rhodes, President Obama, Denis McDonough]

The cover story already existed because earlier in the same day the State Dept was getting questioned about the attack in Cairo, Egypt. Again, at another embassy – and a story had already begun about a U-Tube video.

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The al-Qaeda flag was raised over the U.S. Embassy in Cairo during a protest for the release of the Blind Sheik, a terrorist held in Gitmo.  The State Dept had been sending tweets apologizing for the U.S.   Candidate Mitt Romney blasted the State Dept apologetic response:

I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.  – Mitt Romney

In response to Mitt Romney calling them out – the White House condemned the response from the State Dept and disavowed the State Dept. apology:

“The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government,” a senior administration official told POLITICO

Team Hillary was under fire from both sides of the political aisle.  From the right for expressing regional weakness as the embassy was compromised, and from the White House for apologizing and seeming inept.

Hillary reacted to the Cairo Crisis -and the attacks from both sides- by trying to deflect the substantive policy failure, ignore the origin of the protest (Blind Sheik), and cast blame for the islamists outrage on a disingenuous U-Tube video they found out about two days prior:

 “Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said.

Denis “The Fixer” McDonough just needed to continue, and later emphasize, the same narrative story originally outlined by Hillary Clinton.

Which he did, effectively, the following day: [McDonough on Sept 12th]

“This work takes on added urgency given the truly abhorrent video that has offended so many people–Muslims, and non-Muslims alike—in our country and around the world.” (link)

THIS date and McDonough speech IS CRITICAL to understanding how the State Dept position jumped, and became useful to, the White House:

RIGHT THERE you have Denis McDonough, the very next morning,  September 12th, attaching the little known U-Tube video from the Cairo Embassy explanation, directly to the Benghazi, Libya attack.

Why this McDonough speech is so critical is because what the White House was being told at the exact same moment McDonough was talking.

John Brennan the CIA Director, James Clapper the Director of Intelligence, and Leon Panetta who was Secretary of Defense at the time, all three of them the day it happened, actually it was the morning of the 12th, said that it was an organized terrorist attack and they told the President that.  […]  all three testified under oath about that day (link)

Remember, Brennan, Clapper and Panetta told Obama this BEFORE he walked into the Rose Garden and delivered his now famous, and well debated, line about the attack being an “act of terror” caused by a U-Tube video.

Brennan, Clapper and Panetta told Obama that Ansar al-Sharia (al-Qaeda in Libya) were to blame for a “terrorist attack on our Benghazi compound”.  Meanwhile Denis McDonough was saying it was a “protest” as a result of a “U-Tube video“.

We all know which of those narratives President/Candidate Obama chose.

Denis ‘the fixer’ McDonough was specifically blaming the U-Tube video.   AND McDonough’s job was/is to protect POTUS.

Mike Morell, acting CIA Director, testified to congress he never told anyone the Benghazi incident was the result of a U-Tube video, and was “surprised” as he watched TV that Susan Rice was attributing the video to the cause of the Benghazi attack.    AND Morell’s job was/is to protect HILLARY CLINTON.

The impetus of the instructions to Communications Director, Ben Rhodes, came from the man who is not only close to Obama, but was with him in the Oval Office as the crisis unfolded and who is now his Chief of Staff, Denis McDonough.

Ben Rhodes’s brother, David Rhodes, is the President of CBS News.

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The same CBS News that would not allow their own investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson to follow up on the Benghazi story; eventually resulting in Attkisson quitting the network.     The same Sharyl Attkisson who had her phones tapped and her computer hacked both at home and at work while she was initially following the Benghazi story.

What followed in the days, weeks, and even months after the September 12th U-Tube talking points, was just a continuance of the same manufactured explanation during the “peak” of the 2012 election cycle.

After all, it was this same 41-year-old “kid”, McDonough, who was the key deflector between POTUS and the crisis that was “Fast and Furious“:

“Investigative journalists have provided details on McDonough’s background and work history in politics, but the information that makes McDonough relevant to the continually breaking news on the Fast and Furious scandal is his role in silencing complaints from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)…” (link)

If the media would set their mind to it they might find this picture is worth “A Thousand Words” indeed:

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156 Responses to UPDATED – Benghazi Follow-Up: Who Told Ben Rhodes To Lie About U-Tube Video ? Our Research Provides The Answer…

  1. Tuduri says:

    If he were not so sinister, I would think of this fool as Ronald McDonough with a bright red clown’s nose. But McDonough is more like the evil clowns that would not let my daughter sleep when she was nine and ten years of age. The really sinister clown is his boss.

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  2. sundance says:

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  3. James F says:

    Very interesting. I wonder if David Rhodes ever spent any time at the CIA in his earlier life like CNN’s Anderson Cooper and dailkos Markos Moulitsas have admitted to. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I think it is very likely that the media has been infiltrated by undercover CIA and NSA assets at every level.

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    • Beau Toxx says:

      The media has been infiltrated by Progressive/Marxists and they have also infiltrated the CIA and NSA. You must view the video “AGENDA: The Grinding Down of America” featuring Idaho Legislator Chris Bowers. Go on line, it’s free. http://vimeo.com/63749370

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  4. P.Spinach says:

    Sun Dance, what you have outlined in describing the actions of McDonough to protect the S.O.B in Chief and his Vice Stenographer using a YouTube by a lowly nobody and no name, is in essence — the failure and complete utter dereliction of duty by Barack Obama, the 44th US President (albeit fraudulently so, especially in the second term), soon to be deposed hopefully, of US protectorates and consulate personnel under proven and known to him, terrorist attack. Benghazi was not a terrorist act, it was outright, definitive terrorism, replete with forewarning by a violent faction of Al Quaida. Ironically, Barack Obama was on the phone, lying to Bibi, PM of Israel, the most hatest country by Islamists, about peace talks. Obama was nothing but a distraction, the kind criminals send in to distract a victim while the other criminal does the pick pocket. Something sinister and slimey about it.

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    • P.Spinach says:

      Meanwhile, man pads and weapons being stolen from US to arm Syrian rebels. Treachery at its best. Obama is a dead man inside.

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        Or given from US to arm rebels. (which btw included Al Qaeda , MB, and other assorted Islamists.

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        • west1890 says:

          Yes. GIVEN. thru a 3rd party to hide the US origin. Stevens was eliminated because of what he knew as the ‘arranger’.

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          • P.Spinach says:

            BINGO. Obama was self-scheduled to be distracted by a phone conversation with Netanyahu at exactly Bengazi attack. idiot that he is, he doesn’t realize the fact that he took the phone call and spent an hour while blocking the unpredictable panic-stricken Biden (just look at Biden’s wild eyes in the photo) from acting too is a dereliction of duty. This cannot be repeated often enough. He is a murderer of US human asset. We don’t need no further stinkin’ evidence if we can’t get it due to political interference.

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      Anybody know where ValJar was at during this time? I have a library of articles and posts from all over the world, written since before the famous statement by the Hilldabeast of We came, we saw, he died, and that monstrous laugh. I need to spend a weekend reading!

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I believe a more proper way to describe the Benghazi attack as a precision attack designed with distinct objectives, of which the “terror” factor was secondary. The only question is whether the main objective was to kidnap Chris Stevens to arrange a “prisoner swap” for the Blind Sheik, (a political objective) or to capture weapons that were being stored (or distributed from) there (a military objective). The resulting uncertainty and apprehension that followed was just an inevitable result. Take a look at the amount of assets that were involved, which seem to exceed what is normally brought to bear in simple acts of terror. This was well coordinated and planned.

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      • doodahdazee says:

        Don’t forget the $$$$. There was a lot of cash stolen too.

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        lJP, I’m going to post this statement without a confirmation link until I get some sleep. Gen. Carter Hamm testified that he did not know about the “facility” in Benghazi. This was a STATE/CIA/Administration enterprise. Also remember that they did not have any military security either.

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        • doodahdazee says:

          The only thing saving Obama is John Boehner stopping the select committee from being formed. 189 Republicans have signed up for it. Boner and his RINO’S are preventing it.

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          • obeline says:

            They’re protecting Mike Rogers and his wife – whose company had a $10 billion security contract with State.

            Shameful collusion across the board.

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      • The Tundra PA says:

        Ann Barnhardt had an interesting post up yesterday. I find her stance to be a bit extreme on some things, especially gay men, but her analysis often gets me thinking…

        http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/04/30/repost-and-update-on-benghazi-and-expendable-faggots/

        FTA:

        Next is the whole “kidnapping plot gone wrong” argument. Sorry. It doesn’t hold water. First, the theory that Obama wanted to do a prisoner exchange of Ambassador Stevens for the Blind Sheik right before the election in order to look like some sort of hero is simply ludicrous. Americans would have been repulsed and disgusted by such a move. Americans don’t cotton to capitulation to kidnappers. And releasing the Blind Sheik? No, this would have worked against Obama in public opinion. The fact of one of our Ambassadors being kidnapped at all would have come off as a sign of profound weakness, and releasing the Blind Sheik would have pegged the needle on the ol’ wimp-o-meter.

        Next, this kidnapping scenario assumes that the Obama regime was relying on fairly contested elections, had no election fraud teams in place in the major metro areas of the swing states, and/or was truly Nixonian in its desire for a unanimous victory. Again, nope. They clearly weren’t going for a unanimous or near-unanimous electoral college sweep as Nixon was trying to do. They were all about targeted fraud in the swing states. They had no care or concern about winning Kansas, Wyoming or Oklahoma. The motives simply don’t match up.

        Also, on Benghazi, has anyone seen last night’s episode of For The Record on TheBlazeTV? I haven’t had time to watch it yet but will try to get to it today. Beck interviewed Sheryl Atkisson on his radio program yesterday but I missed that too.

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        • Anton says:

          Yes…it appears Stevens had spoken to the house Intel Committee SECRETLY …as Mike Rogers confirmed to Megyn Kelly…
          the Stinger Missiles were being run out of Benghazi and Jordan and being turned over to AlQaeda in a plot to take down Assad and get the USA into a war in Syria..
          .Stevens thought that would bring on WWIII and expressed his dismay and was not on board..

          .After talking to the Intel Committee and some say Sen Inhoeff…they decided to discard Stevens,,,and that was helped along by Erdogan and Mursi, …Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood buddies…his Arab Spring cohorts …who wanted control of Syria, wanted Assad the moderate out, who tolerated other religions particularly Chriatians…OUT…..and wanted Syria as another Muslim Brotherhood controlled country….which is why their rebels, armed by Obama are in the process of the massacre of Christians in Syria

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    • Anton says:

      That Obama had not spoken to Bibi since 12/09…yet had scheduled this call to Bibi, at this odd hour for Netanyahu 1:30 -2:30 in the morning …suggests Obama knew in advance that the Benghazi attack would take place ….and used Netanyahu for a campaign moment to showcase a relationship that did not exist to try and stop the hemmorhaging of the Jewish vote

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  5. BigMamaTEA says:

    Anybody who’s interested in the entire batch of JW emails, (112 pgs, haven’t read them yet)
    I have them at : http://www.scribd.com/doc/221336840/BENGHAZI-Judicial-Watch-Emails-4-2014

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  7. One of the complaints I heard mentioned about Obama during the 2008 campaign was his near total lack of executive experience.
    Well, I think that question has answered itself.
    It would also appear that Obama, through his flunkies in his campaign team, has staffed his Cabinet with people just like himself: Inexperienced political hacks with extensive academic and party backgrounds who filter everything through their ideological mental filters, and act accordingly.
    Someone is going to make a fortune off of a tell all book from this administration.
    Truly, the idiots are in charge. What the Secret Service Protective Detail must talk about in their lounges when off duty, oh boy, if I could be a fly on the wall then…

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      “Inexperienced political hacks” Yes, that.

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      • doodahdazee says:

        Clue….Why is Pannetta no longer head of the CIA? Why has no one who survived been identified? Think back to the Zimmerman fiasco. Some people could not testify or they would have to take the 5th….remember? They were working in the background out of sight. This is why Benghazi will never come to light. It was a fiasco by a bunch of dope’s running a stupid operation. The military hates this crapola but are stuck in it like the General today. They like to break things and kill enemy. The political dope’s in State and intel like to play games.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Obama went into office with a scripted plan to make fundamental socialist changes in America, and fundamental changes to the amount of power wielded (and the manner in which that power can be wielded) by the office of the President. What he needed to accomplish this was an infrastructure that would be loyal to him and his capos. experience wasn’t needed. Just people who were of similar ideology and who were ambitious enough to ride his coattails, but not so ambitious as to “break ranks” by revealing much about the inner workings of his administration. That is one reason why there is limited access to the POTUS himself: Compartmentalization. They are assembled like a terror organization or crime syndicate with layers of protection (and plausible deniability) between the POTUS and each successive layer right down the line. The only difference is that the players are all known, and the flow of information is strictly controlled.

      How many top level people who should have been involved in the consultations and decision making process have complained that they were excluded, and had policy dictated to them by 2nd or 3rd layer functionaries in Obama’s “krewe”? How many military leaders have been “purged” when they didn’t fit neatly into Obama’s “vision for America” or who questioned him or his decisions?

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  8. elvischupacabra says:

    Wow…. if you were writing for a fishwrap, this would be Pulitzer material.

    Write a book about this.

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  9. rashomon says:

    Yes, this is YOUR BOOK.

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  10. LHLaredo says:

    And I ask, what does anybody do or yet happens to any of this people?
    Is there really no honest person(s) in our government anymore?
    It has been a sad day for the past countless years, that all we here is corruption and disgrace as the norm, from the smallest local governments/agencies all the way to our national prestigous offices.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I would guess that there are large numbers of honest people within the civil service bureaucracy and/or elected government. Problem is, those who are aren’t already seduced by their own dreams of making some change which they (rightfully) perceive as worthwhile and significant (but who have already made questionable alliances and compromises to reach their goals) are frozen in place, either out of fear of being targeted by the inside power brokers, or as a result of the “Bystander Effect” which says that the larger the numbers of “bystanders” present, the lower the likelihood that any single bystander will take action. The process of rationalization is so complex that they often just don’t act until it is too late. They either wait for “Someone Else” to act, or wait until some invisible (and personally determined) moral threshold is crossed.

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      • nyetneetot says:

        I realize this isn’t the main point of the thread, but I think you’re describing a result of the indoctrination(s) the American public has received for generations. The “Bystander Effect” does not occur in the same way or to the same degree (if at all) in other societies and cultures.

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    • Stormy says:

      NSA knows everyones secrets… I’m sure many are being blackmailed… Those who don’t have secrets are being persecuted by the IRS and every other fed agency they can throw at them… and then there are the random heart attacks.

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  11. Thomas J. Stratford says:

    The same person who directed the IRS to attack Tea Party groups, the same person who directed the false narrative about F & F weapons in the hands of Mexican drug cartels, being due to right wing gun lovers in the USA, the same person who said “they bring a knife, we’ll bring a gun”.

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  12. Coast says:

    This phone call took place between 12:30pm and 1:28am Benghazi time
    12:30 am?

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  13. Betty says:

    And who gave the order to STAND DOWN? Who ordered soldiers to abandon fellow soldiers under fire?

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    • doodahdazee says:

      Mortar fire. This stuff does not come from a demonstration about a video.

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      • elvischupacabra says:

        Yes! A rifle, shotgun or pistol in the hands of a mob, even if they are novices, can be used with some effect; put enough rounds down range and you will at least cause someone to seek cover. However, a mortar requires training and skill to use, effectively. In Benghazi, the mortars eventually decided the issue and proved lethal. No one is handed a mortar and told, “Put some rounds over there,” and achieves what can be described as anything akin to accuracy. No one brings suppressive, light artillery to a demonstration, spontaneous or not.

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        • doodahdazee says:

          Ya ya got it. Plus our guys on the roof lased them and were waiting for the drone to take them out. But Noooo! Who operated the drone? Was it hot? if not why not it was a Predator? WTF is going on here. Who was watching the live telemetry. The Gen. today started to talk but was cut off by the Chafee guy.

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        • partyzantski says:

          Mortars….
          As a means of a brief discussion on the topic, mortars are an indirect fire asset. The mortar crew does not need to be able to see the target, they just need to know exacyly where they are in relation to the target and to have the target within the range of the mortar.
          Mortars are of varying sizes. At the Company level in the U.S. (about 130 men) in an Infantry Company, you will find 60mm mortars. At the Battalion level, there is a 81mm system. Bigger mortars are 120mm and up.
          A 120mm mortar shell will explode with the force of a 155mm artillery round, as its walls are thinner (less pressure & stress to deal with) and it carries more explosive fill.
          For a mortar crew to effectively use the weapon system. they need to have the firing point they are using pre-surveyed to answer the “where am I”. They would need to know as well the location of the target. These locations are given in a format that would look like this:
          38 S LB 1234 5678. That is an 8 digit grid coordinate that is pretty spot on. It is a made up location pulled out of my litterbox.
          The mortar crew would then make ready some mortar rounds, by adjusting the propellant increments on the mortar round itself. Old style U.S. rounds had 9 clothh bags of propellant (81mm system), newer ones had 4 composite horse shoe looking things on them. By adjusting the propellant charge and angling the tube, you could get varying ranges and times of flight on the rounds. A simple, analog plastic circular protractor would provide the data for time of flight, max ordinate (how high) and range for any given configuration of round.
          The fuzing of the rounds is complex. Russian rounds are quite primitive and are not as safe as NATO compliant ones. The Russian 82mm round for instance just has a hard bit of felt to prevent the firing pin from going home. American VT (variable time) fuzes are bits of technical wonder, no space to get into that, but you can easily find it if you look.
          Russian mortars tend to be larger than American mortars (82mm v. 81mm). They also have a lot more smooth-bore tubes. American mortar systems are rifled, for better performance. Russian systems are simpler and a lot cheaper to produce (by a factor of 3 or more cheaper), with smooth bores. You can also use 81mm rounds in an 82mm tube, but not the other way around.
          At any rate, once the mortar crew had the firing data calculated and dropped a round or 2 downrange to get the range right, it would be a simple matter to make it rain mortar shells on the hapless defenders. This sort of effort requires forward observers, who can send radio calls back on how to adjust the fall of the shells for best effect.
          My point after all this is simple… that level of sophistication requires planning ahead of time (assemble a trained crew, logistically supply a stack of ammo where you will need it as they are heavy to move and make sure that you have positive 2 way communications with a trained observer).
          There is no way in HADES that this was “spontaneous”.

          http://sill-www.army.mil/firesbulletin/2010/Mar_Apr_2010/Pages5_10.pdf
          Indirect fires are one of the more technically exacting of the combat arms.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/82-BM-37 provides an example of the capabilities of an 82mm mortar from the Soviets.
          https://rdl.train.army.mil/catalog/view/100.ATSC/04183AF4-34EB-47F0-BCEE-29C93432DA49-1274564010088/3-21.8/chap2.htm is more background, should you want it.

          NOT. A. SPONTANEOUS. PROTEST!

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          • partyzantski says:

            Enough from me… if you want to know all about it, read how it is dome from the FM(field manual):
            http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/FM%2023-91.pdf
            Now, after looking at that and giving allowance for the different organizational abilities, can it reasonably be stated that the attack was the equivalent of a neighborhood pick-up basketball game?
            I submit to you, gentle readers, that the mere use of a mortar implies intent, it implies planning and a certain level of command & control. You would not just start raining mortar rounds on a place if you wanted to ensure that your own guys did not get sent to their eternal reward. It implies that the planning extended to designing phases, such as, until we finish plastering the place, keep your guys back and under hard cover while the infidel interlopers are dealt with. This phase was needed since the heroes from the CIA showed up and caused significant problems with the execution of the plan.
            So…. inital plan fails, bring in mortar crew, then re-attack and finish the job. If the initial attack worked, they would likely have been able to sell the ‘spontaneous protest” meme a lot more easily.
            Again, I hammer it home: MORTAR FIRE=PLANNED ACTION

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  14. doodahdazee says:

    So. My question is this. Right after this photo. Where did Obama go? Could he have gone to look at the live images via a drone or aircraft?

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Nah. He just left things in other hands and went to smoke a joint and rest up for the important campaigning the next day.

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      • doodahdazee says:

        Who knows. But it was an attack on an Ambassador. Were communications established in the White Shed that had direct links to the action? Fishy. What did Obama know? When did he know it? What did Obama do after this meeting when he was informed? What did Obama and Hillary know when they spoke over the coffins at Andrews AFB?

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          “Fishy” Yep. Whatever he did that night was fishy. I think they were waiting to hear that Ambassador Stephens had been successfully kidnapped. They forgot what vile, dispicable, violent, crude, hateful, people from the stoneage they were dealing with and those people tortured and killed the Ambassador instead of just kidnapping him. You know, kind of an “oopsie” moment on their part.

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          • doodahdazee says:

            Lieabi’s…The NYT will come up with one to print so the rest of the Obama Media can use it to lie. A lieabi for any democrat is their job.

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          • rutesperanza says:

            I agree . The plan was kidnapping, thats why they told to stand down. Thats why Obama wasn’t available so that he would not be directly responsible. They knew it was going to happen. He figured he could just place a call to Bibi, and that would clear him of any responsibility to have been available to command military. Sickening. Our guys started shooting back (not expected by kidnappers who had been told we would stand down) so then a fire fight broke out. Don’t forget the Seals who disobeyed orders to Stand Down, their families will not get one dime because they defied orders therefore no pensions no death benefits to their families. What a pathetic disgusting Administration we have….its infuriating. And for them to know who did this and to tell us they are just waiting to do anything because they don’t want to upset any government etc…can you imagine? Reagan or Bush would have taken out the killers the next week.

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            • auscitizenmom says:

              Wait………….wait. If there was no order to stand down (that is what the WH said) then they can’t withhold the benefits. Right? So, proof that the benefits are being withheld will prove that there was an order to stand down. Right?

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            • doodahdazee says:

              Obama and Hillary appear to have been in bed with Al Qaida while at the same time claiming they were big hero types against. Now there were 2 wings of Al Qaida. Osama who only wanted to attack Infidels and Zawa who wanted to go after other Muzz in the ME. They can’t afford this to get out. Prolly will throw the Hildabeast under the Obama Bus. The MSM can then still claim Dear Leader is pure. Da beast is expendable. Just a hunch.

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        • Anton says:

          Yes…it appears Stevens had spoken to the house Intel Committee SECRETLY …as Mike Rogers confirmed to Megyn Kelly…
          the Stinger Missiles were being run out of Benghazi and Jordan and being turned over to AlQaeda in a plot to take down Assad and get the USA into a war in Syria..
          .Stevens thought that would bring on WWIII and expressed his dismay and was not on board..

          .After talking to the Intel Committee and some say Sen Inhoeff…they decided to discard Stevens,,,and that was helped along by Erdogan and Mursi, …Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood buddies…his Arab Spring cohorts …who wanted control of Syria, wanted Assad the moderate out, who tolerated other religions particularly Chriatians…OUT…..and wanted Syria as another Muslim Brotherhood controlled country….which is why their rebels, armed by Obama are in the process of the massacre of Christians in Syria
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          Anton says:
          May 4, 2014 at 5:09 am
          That Obama had not spoken to Bibi since 12/09…yet had scheduled this call to Bibi, at this odd hour for Netanyahu 1:30 -2:30 in the morning …suggests Obama knew in advance that the Benghazi attack would take place ….and used Netanyahu for a campaign moment to showcase a relationship that did not exist to try and stop the hemmorhaging of the Jewish vote

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          • Anton says:

            Answer these questions and explain them away.

            I believe it was a hit on Stevens after his secret meeting with Mike Rogers (supposedly Inhoef too) and the House Intel Committee. The WH and Hillary wanted no one to testify against them for their arms dealing. If true WMD (Sarin) and 6 dirty bombs left Benghazi as well as 20,000 Stinger Missiles and Manpads. Weapons were disappearing from Jordan and Egypt into AlQaeda’s hands as well. Stevens met secretly with the House Intel Committee as he,was no longer on board and reporting back because he understood Obama wanted this to be a war in Syria…

            Stevens thought this was taking us to WWIII…And wasn’t worth the death and destruction to continue the Arab Spring to turn Syria over to the Muslim Brotherhood.

            The ONLY call Obama made that night after meeting with Panetta …was after he received word that Stevens was dead …that call was to Hillary. Mission accomplished?

            Why was Chuck Schumer, Soros’ Indy Mac buddy at the WH from 5-Midnight that day?

            The day before the attack it was leaked in the WaPo, paper of record for CIA leaks, that Obama didn’t attend his daily security briefings but 38% .(reported by Marc Thiessen, ask who leaked that info to him) giving him plausible deniability for the lack of security in the aftermath of the dead and the investigation of some sort he expected. His usual excuse, “he didn’t know, he read it in the paper”.

            …..this to distance Obama from the knowledge of no security in Benghazi. They refused that security because a planned hit was coming. I believe they wanted everyone in that complex dead….no one left to testify. That the 15 in Libya who talked to investigators have been killed should give pause. That Benghazi was the only post to receive Blue Mountain Security…subpar security should interest. Who set that trap up?

            Obama and Erdogon have always been close. Erdogon was the first head of state Obama called upon his election.
            Erdogon is Muslim Brotherhood like Morsi…it begins to look as if Obama is too. Morsi’s wife has been pouting off she ha recordings of Hillary and Obama as well as other communications.

            The call scheduled to Netanyahu looks suspect. Scheduled at 3AM Netanyahu time?? …That particular day at that particular time (again they knew the hit was coming) when the last time Obama called Netanyahu on record was 12/09??

            Obama wanted face time in the press as in contact with Netanyahu to shore up his loss of Jewish votes that he was suffering before the election. That loss in percentage of Jewish votes would have cost Obama the election. To make the call look less suspicious Obama then calls Netanyahu again 2 weeks after Benghazi, and the next call ….over a year later.

            If the Seal book explanation of Benghazi was truth. Perhaps Brennan was working at cross purposes of those collecting weapons, with his team dispersing weapons and arming AlQaeda.

            Convenient: Lockheed President who had tripled ams sales resigns same day as Petraeus…for the same reason. An affair. I find It hard to believe someone in the private sector resigns for an affair.

            As our FBI used to say, “there are no coincidences”..certainly in resigning, he wouldn’t be called to answer any questions before Congress.
            Moving forth and coming from Lochkeed is our new FBI director Comey. Both men worked closely together at Lochkeed. Covering their bases.
            http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/01/19/watch-the-great-white-house-benghazi-cover-up-in-3-minutes-flat

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            • auscitizenmom says:

              {shudder} There are things you said, if true, are much, much worse than simply ignoring what was happening.

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            • doodahdazee says:

              Answer. Stephens brought the CASH!!!! This was a raid and robbery. The warehouse had the stash of arms and the Ambassador had the CASH! Lots of CASH!. They have thrown billions around Ganistan. How much here? Guns and CASH!

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            • doodahdazee says:

              PS McDill was penetrated.

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  15. Susan M. says:

    When they Lied over the Coffins of American Heroes, they were busy formulating the plan against EACH OTHER so EACH of these Cowards could get away with his/her Life. Such a Shame.

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  16. Sentient says:

    The brother of Obama’s fixer/deflector Denis McDonough is Father Kevin McDonough, the point man on child sexual abuse by priests in the Archdiocese of St Paul/Minneapolis. Politicians. Spinning words and trying to avoid blame.

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  17. doodahdazee says:

    The hearing on Benghazigate is on TV. So funny to watch the Obamacrats squirm as they try to hide the truth.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Yeah, and when one of the Dems has a turn to question, they just start an oration and take the discussion back to Bush and Iraq to distract.

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      • doodahdazee says:

        Funny. BOLO for any that say we have to make sure this never happens again. A trick to pretend who caused it to happen or what happened no longer matters. They have some egghead shills to help out the democrats.

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  18. John Galt says:

    When Zero said “transparency” he meant “transparent lies”.

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  19. While McDonough may have been the original source of the fabricated reasoning for the attack on our consulate, that being the u-tube video, the speech McDonough gave on Sept. 12th is not proof that he was the original source, because McDonough was not the first person to publicly condemn the video for the attack.

    Hillary Clinton, through her spokesperson, was the first person to condemn the video. On the night of Sept 11th, Clinton’s spokesperson released a statement in which the following statement was included:

    “Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.”

    It is clear that Ben Rhodes is not where the genesis of this fabricated story came from. It is clear that the State Department, more specifically Hillary Clinton, was also fully involved in blatantly lying about the cause of the attack. Is McDonough the link between the State Department and the White House or is it Hillary Clinton or was it someone else?

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    • woohoowee says:

      Do you have a link for Hillary’s spokesperson releasing that statement on the night of the 11th?

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    • doodahdazee says:

      The people on the roof of the annex were under attack. By small arms and Mortar. There was a drone overhead. They lased the Mortar and expected a drone attack that never came. The drones saw it all. Heck if it was unarmed it could have at least dove in on the Mortar Kamikazi style. The drone operator saw it all as well as anyone else who had the telemertry. Maybe the White House too. Where was Dear Leader?

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    • sundance says:

      justincaselawgic, once again, again, YES AGAIN, you obfuscate….

      It’s what you PROGS do (and yes, with your track history I’m calling you a prog – and you might not even know it, most don’t).

      If you didn’t have such an absolutely abhorrent CTH track record of being arbitrary and capricious, disingenuous in the extreme and rabidly obtuse, just for the sake of being arbitrary and capricious I might not give a damn.

      Alas “your type” love to bog down in semantics (think Clinton’s what “is” is) to insure that no-one actually sees the guy with the explosives taped to his chest.

      …..”While McDonough may have been the original source of the fabricated reasoning for the attack on our consulate, that being the u-tube video, the speech McDonough gave on Sept. 12th is not proof that he was the original source”…..

      No-one is claiming he’s the source for the u-tube video overall – that would obviously be the State Dept who were ingaged a twitter conversation with the Islamists in/around cairo.

      The point is McDonough’s the person directly responsible for Ben Rhodes using the U-Tube narrative…. you know, the entire reason for the post from title to subscript.

      In your insufferable need to always, YES ALWAYS, be the contrarian (which is how you obviously see yourself and your role in the world) you seem to miss the proverbial point, overlook the key ingredient, drive-by the destination and generally skip the obvious.

      Have you always been this OBTUSE ? or do you save it up just for your visits here ?

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Sundance, do you think it is fishy that Hillary put out that statment in the middle of the attack? Or, at least what seems like the middle of the attack. Especially since she had no contact (supposedly) with our illustrious fauxcommanderinchief?

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        • sundance says:

          Heck no, it’s not fishy at all.

          On September 11th 2012 – The Cairo Embassy was surrounded by Mohammed al Zawahiri led Islamists, as they protested for release of the Blind Sheik, an Egyptian terrorist being held in Gitmo.

          During this, the al-Qaeda flag was hoisted upon the embassy as the Islamist faction climbed the wall and took control. The media were everywhere documenting this – (there are a bazillion pics on the innertubes).

          [ In the two days just before this event the state dept was twittering with Egyptian media, (* and it’s important to remember this is AFTER Morsi took power so the egyptian state TV and media were expressing full frontal sharia !!) . The State dept was doing stupid stuff like apologizing for being America and all our past transgressions in the region. This emboldened the protesters to actually scale the walls ].

          http://twitchy.com/2012/09/11/us-embassy-in-cairo-quietly-deletes-its-we-stand-by-our-apology-tweet/

          The U.S. Media began broadcasting the pictures of the al-Qaeda flag over the Cairo Embassy.

          Hillary spoke about it, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL DAMAGE such an optic was creating at the time. (Obviously al-Qaeda was not “dead, and GM alive”)… The State Dept looked like idiots.

          The U-Tube video was used -By the folks in the State Dept back home- as an excuse to try and get the media to overlook the past two days of twitter diplomacy fails around the Cairo Embassy. Which had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VIDEO, and were directly because of failed Obama/Clinton policy in the region, and Egypt specifically, reflecting weakness.

          Hence, as a consequence non-islamist Egyptians took to the streets and put billboards out showing their disapproval of Hillary Inc. They even pelted her car with tomatoes when she came for the next visit.

          THAT’s WHY

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          • doodahdazee says:

            No doubt. Then the raid. This is the result of a bungled Obama/Clinton policy and ordered covert operation.. Now Egypt is executing the Obama/Clinton favored faction. I do not blame them. Remember the Arab Spring? Good Grief. Now the line to look for is this. “We must make sure this never happens again.” It is the talking point. They all say it. Hillaryous. Well, the way to do that is throw them out on the street. I agree.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            Ahhhh.

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        • yankeeintx says:

          The embassy in Cairo was asked about the video on 9/9. Their response was “what video”, I think that is when the State Dept took a look and decided they would use it as the excuse should the protests get out of control(or they had know about it all along and kept it in their back pocket to use when needed.) IIRC, that video was posted to utube in April, and nobody had heard of it. I also found it suspicious how many times Hillary pointed out “that horrible video THAT WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH”.

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          • P.Spinach says:

            I distinctly heard Hildebeest say in a mocking manner something like, “so a coupl’a guys went out at night, had a coupl’a rums and decided to revenge a video in the streets”. Dude, you’re senile…..and I do mean, dude!

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        • Anton says:

          Keep in mind Chuck Schumer was there in the WH from 5- midnight…Why

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      • doodahdazee says:

        And now….dollar to a dime this is part of the whole Libya fiasco….yes we have to look at Mr. McClame too. Now….my hunch is the UN is in the food chain someplace too. This might be a botched Obama/UN/MB black op. We can’t trust them and they can’t trust us type of deal. Some get to play without risk. Others sign the line and take the risk. Some are dead now. This is why all the beating around the bush.

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      • woohoowee says:

        THANK YOU for unconfuzzing me and getting me back on track! Sometimes it really is hard to see the forest for the trees.

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      • Sundance,

        When I first read your reply, I was pretty shocked. Shocked at the tone, the accusations, pretty much everything.

        Then, I read my post again and I think I’m seeing what made you reply the way you did. I’m not being a contrarian, but I think my post could come off as an attempt to undermine your OP. It was not meant that way and I offer my sincerest apologies for that.

        It was intended to further the conversation and bring Hillary into the fray. We will likely be facing Hillary in 2016. The more that understand that she is just as culpable the better.

        Again, my apologies.

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    • woohoowee says:

      The link between WH and State? A possibility:

      “We have heard almost nothing about what Obama was doing that night. Back in February, though, CNS News did manage to pry one grudging disclosure out of White House mendacity mogul Jay Carney: “At about 10 p.m., the president called Secretary Clinton to get an update on the situation.”

      Obviously, it is not a detail Carney was anxious to share. Indeed, it contradicted an earlier White House account that claimed the president had not spoken with Clinton or other top administration officials that night.”

      http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348677/10-pm-phone-call-andrew-c-mccarthy

      Both McDonough and Clinton mentioned the video in speeches on the 12th. And, as Sundance pointed out, Obama did the same thing in the Rose Garden AFTER Brennan, Clapper and Panetta Briefed him on the morning of the 12th. If McDonough isn’t the link, how would he have known to repeat the video excuse on the 12th? Clinton sent him an email? Obama told him? Surely they don’t think we’ll buy the line that he just read Clinton’s press release before he gave his speech?

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  20. doodahdazee says:

    Get rid of Boner and make Gowdy Speaker.

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  21. P.Spinach says:

    Obama is under the false pretense that handing off a serious crises to an underling is not dereliction of duty. But of course, it very much is a dereliction of duty. He offers as explanation that he had to be on the phone with Netayanhu and took VP Biden with him to act as stenographer on purpose because Big Hero Biden would have sent in the U.S. Drones and then some, to save the day at Benghazi. Biden, a scaredy cat, acquiesces and does not argue that he should be at the helm over Benghazi during Sinister-in-Chief’s absence. Bibi, knowing that a terrorist event by Al Queda was occurring in Libya would have gladly re-scheduled.

    Obama also offers that he told next in line after VP, to do everything possible, and then literally leaves it in their hands. More than likely, he repeated what he tells the Afghan corps, do everything but shoot to harm the terrorists. 10 to 1.

    Neither of the two explanations offered absolves him of his duty of Commander-in-Chief to be present as the crises unfolds minute to minute, and offer up intelligence, after all that is the role of a commander. Can you imagine commanders at the battlefield, when their charges are in the line of fire, leaving the scene for an hour to have a chat with another VIP over non-urgent issues that can be addressed later, and then going AWOL completely later until showing up for a fun breakfast or fund raiser the next day. Total dereliction of duty any way you look at it. Time to remove him from office. I pray to God this happens. Please join me in the prayers across the nation, Americans and other nationalities. Obama is a pox on humans everywhere extending to the middle-east, Africa, Europe, Ukraine, China, Russia……..not to mention black Americans too.

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  22. rightie says:

    So there was a phonecall between Bibi and Obama/Biden at 6:28 pm ET on Sept. 11. There is a seven hour time difference between Washington and Jerusalem. Bibi was on the phone with these two characters at 1:30 am Israel time on Sept. 12, assuming he was indeed in Israel that day. I guess it is normal in these circles to have a regular, non-emergency phone call at that time at night?

    Maybe that phone call didn’t happen at all but something was put on the White House website just to make it look like this “important” call took place and our president was busy minding the business of Jewish constituents?

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    • doodahdazee says:

      Fishy ain’t it. Crowdsourcing Benghazi is fun. Especially with Clowney on the stage. Get the Gong.

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    • sundance says:

      No, the phone call took place because the U.S. media were poking at the relationship between Netanyahu and Obama.

      When Netanyahu came to the U.S. to do his Iranian red line speech at the U.N. (Acme bomb picture) Obama did not invite him to the White House during his visit.

      The media picked up on the disparity between Obama’s Iranian talk (open hand), and Netanyahu’s Iranian speech (closed fist). Pundits were full of talk about a wedge between the Obama and Netanyahu administrations.

      That’s why this conversation was so important. Obama needed the electoral impression that him and Bibi were on the same page – lest Obama suffer in the upcoming election.

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      • “That’s why this conversation was so important. Obama needed the electoral impression that him and Bibi were on the same page – lest Obama suffer in the upcoming election.”

        Exactly! Given his prior treatment of Netanyahu, as noted above and when Obama left him sitting in a meeting room at the White House while having dinner with Michelle, damage control in the name of political expediency was mandatory.

        It is amazing, in light of Obama’s overt disdain for Netanyahu and Israel, that any Jewish citizens voted for him. I realize that many Jews tend to also be liberals, I would think the fact that Obama was/is willing to throw Israel under the proverbial Muslim bus would have lost their votes.

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  23. doodahdazee says:

    Is our POTUS compromised? Do enemy powers have the goods on him?

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  24. The entire Benghazi debacle could be scripted as “The Amateurs” and produced by Hollywood. The problem with lies is that it is hard, over a period of time, to keep up with them. However, when the person lying is also psychotic this becomes much easier as that person is able to believe that his lies are based in reality. This should tell us something about the people in power in this administration.

    Another serious issue that resulted from the cover-up is that a man was arrested and imprisoned on trumped up charges of a “parole violation” (for prior drug and fraud charges for which is was on probation) for using an alias in making the short U-Tube film. This was necessary to continue the “optic” the administration was trying to sell. Maybe I’m confused, but I was of the belief that in America we frown upon imprisoning people for political reasons. This entire administration needs to be indicted and impeached.

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  25. doodahdazee says:

    Reminder: Look for Obama Shills saying “we must be sure this never happens again.”

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  26. doodahdazee says:

    The White House Lieabi is “the only thing that matters is to make sure this never happens again.” Now. Are the Americans so stupid they buy this pap? How come no MSM (including FOX) asks…well what happened? Is this proof the Americans have been dumbed down enough?

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  27. sundance says:

    This just happened:

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  28. John Denney says:

    Obama says he gave the order to do whatever it takes to protect our people.
    Yet, someone gave a stand-down order, in direct violation of his orders.
    If the president was on the up-and-up, he could know within an hour who did so and have them court martialed or relieved of duty.
    Wouldn’t that make the news? Wouldn’t that put to rest a lot of the Benghazi affair with which his opponents are hammering him, Hillary, and the Democrats?
    Fishy? I think it’s beyond fishy.

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    • P.Spinach says:

      Good observation. Obama never voices disdain that orders were not given to save the lives of the US personnel in his absence, when apparently he claims he gave utmost instructions. He would have the ‘stand downers’ found immediately and absolve himself of the continuous blame. What occurred was he gave orders to do everything possible except fire on the terrorists. He is king of half-truths and partial truths.

      What is glaringly obvious, is Obama’s complete absence and the crises’ staff’s lack of knowledge on his whereabouts during every minute following the terrorist event. It’s the elephant in the room, Obama’s UTTER VACUUM and ABSENTIA until he reappeared in Las Vegas.

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    • That’s exactly it, isn’t it. I heard Carney keep referring to the existence of a stand down order as another conspiracy theory that’s been debunked. I’m not sure if it has been debunked, but the important thing to note is that the reason anyone thought there was a stand down order given was because Obama said he gave an order to do everything possible to help our people. If a stand down order doesn’t exist, then Obama lied or someone disobeyed his order. I think we all know the real story, but even Fox isn’t posing the question to Carney that way.

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      • doodahdazee says:

        No order at all is the same as a stand down. The military gets ready to go at the sign of trouble and awaits an order. None came.

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        • Kind of. They have almost the same effect and that is how this regime is getting by: by mincing words. The whole stand down order was supposedly never given, but it is agreed that some response teams were told to wait at their staging areas. So, Obama and his crew can say that they never issued a stand down order, even though the “orders” that were given provided the same result.

          I’m sure we’re all getting tired of this bs. Hope the masses are as well and show it in November.

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          • doodahdazee says:

            They are in trouble with the new Select Committee. So far there have been no orders from collective central with talking points for the National Apparratchik Network. Without direct central control the collective is lost for words. They need to come up with a better mantra than making sure this never happens again.

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  29. Sam says:

    If anyone besides Sundance is asking who told Ben Rhodes to lie, I haven’t heard it. I don’t have cable though. Sundance deserves our thanks for relentlessly keeping up with this … stinking pile of … I don’t even know what to call it. It’s Fast and Furious and Iran-Contra mixed together with a special toxic sauce all Obama’s own.

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    • doodahdazee says:

      I think they are caught like Rat’s in a trap. Gowdy will obliterate them. The attempt will be to try and kick it past November. Maybe an ongoing investigation to hide the goods. It appears they are now trying to deflect en masse to 2016 and Hillary to take the heat off the November timeframe and Obama. There is impeachable goodies in the mix. They will throw her under the Obamabus.

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  30. BigMamaTEA says:

    For anyone interested, I’ve uploaded the transcript of BlazeTV- For the Record-Special Report broadcast 4-30-2014: http://www.scribd.com/doc/221773138/BENGHAZI-Transcript-of-One-the-Record-Special-Report-Operation-Zero-Footprint

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    • doodahdazee says:

      The Gold For Oil Plan. Quacky wanted to get straight Gold as payment not aiir money that he would have to go out and trade for Gold? He prolly lose 25% off the top if he could find any. Arab Spring Broke.

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    • Anton says:

      Quite stunning …thank you..part 2 Wednesday

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  31. BigMamaTEA says:

    ps: Bold lettering/underlining etc. are my own.

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  32. crazy says:

    Don’t forget the memo was written in response to a request by the House Intel committee chairman’s (?) request for an unclassified summary of “what can we say” about events involving a previously unacknowledged CIA facility and personnel. Legitimate efforts to protect ongoing black ops got all mixed up with bureaucratic and political blame-shifting and butt-covering. For better or worse the republican leadership that was read-in on whatever those codeword activities were haven’t been any more interested in exposing their knowledge and support than democrat leaders were of their knowledge and support of enhanced interrogation methods until it was politically advantageous to do so. State and WH would rather fight about memos and videos than about what really happened and why.

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  33. doodahdazee says:

    Uh Oh. Appears that some people with inside baseball are trying to get the facts out. Rather than rely on our imagination. My theory has no credibility. Only my imagination.

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