When we were following the Volkswagen/BMW auto contraction story, CTH noted the issue was likely to expand to Mercedes, that has now happened.
As Mercedes enters negotiations with German labor unions, the union leaders have balked at a request by the company to expand the work week from 35 to 38 hours. Against a stagnant economy and poor financial returns, Mercedes is now saying all future investment in Germany will be suspended and the possibility of plant closures and layoffs loom large.
The primary reason Mercedes cites for their financial struggle is declining sales in the Chinese market as consumers switch to less expensive brands of similar quality. Again, this doesn’t come as a surprise since Geely, a Chinese auto company purchased a 10% stake in Mercedes ultimately to gain access to Mercedes engineering and supply chains.
The result is what happens with almost all companies who allow China to take a significant interest in their production line. China figures out a way to make the same or similar product at a less expensive cost. This is the same outcome suffered by Volkswagen, and now China is positioned to sell Geely autos into the German market.
(Telegraph) – Mercedes-Benz has suspended all future investment in Germany, warning it may need to shut plants and relocate jobs.
The carmaker has suffered from shrinking sales and profits in recent years, triggering a wave of cost-cutting which has culminated in a decision to stop investing in its domestic plants entirely.
Michael Schiebe, the production director, told employees: “The executive board has jointly decided to halt all further investments in German sites.”
Britta Seeger, the company’s workforce chief, said bosses would now “examine specifically and in detail which locations we can still afford in Germany”.
It comes amid a showdown between management and unions over the company’s cost-cutting plans.
The car giant, which is based in Stuttgart, has for months been pushing a plan under which its staff would work longer hours for the same pay. (read more)
Again, this is an outcome of German manufacturing policy in combination with EU energy policy. Europe went all-in for the net-zero carbon emissions and the push for electric vehicles. European mandates on EV production mean if EU automakers do not hit EV quotas they pay fines to Brussels.
To avoid the self-imposed fines, European auto companies purchase carbon credit certificates from Chinese EV companies. Beijing then uses the funds from the carbon credit sales to subsidize lower prices on their EV exports to Europe.
The result, European automakers (Volkswagen, Mercedes) are financing the discount price of Chinese automakers (BYD, Geely) in Europe.
Yes Alice, that’s about the most European thing you can imagine. Madness, all of it.
Allowing the Chicoms into
a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g
is absolute insanity, similar to plunging a knife into your belly to relieve gas!
Although I don’t care for the Chinese, they’re just playing by the oligarchs of the western nations rules.
It’s not the Chinese destroying the west, it’s the west themselves.
I Tim. 6: 9-10
9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
The love of money is destroying many lives.
That is a great observation. Leftists often have to experience why something is a bad idea before they accept it as a bad idea.
The Chinese are letting them have that experience and I think it is great. They’re just doing their job.
Britain is lost and still cannot utter why out loud. France is lost is lost and cannot utter why. Germany is in the same position for the same reasons and has realized it. It will be interesting if they can save themselves or not. Angela Merkel should be held accountable.
Once Germany collapses, kiss the EU goodbye. Or more appropriately, good riddance.
The Plan being executed does not include collapsing Germany or any other nation.
It merely aims to diminish Germany’s power along with the rest of the EU and the West including the US.
As part of the global shift raising China and aligned nations including Russia and now Iran.
Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”.
A collapsed West does not serve the rising hegemon in the East. A diminished West does.
Pay attention to the longer-term trends, don’t get distracted by propaganda.
My only concern is what happens to our involvement in NATO?
Will we be defending the caliphate of Europe?
Merkel is still solidly behind her push for immigration even as she watches Germany fade into third world oblivion.
No the leftists never acknowledge their bad ideas they just blame other people for their own failures
Yup, just like a snake eating it’s own tail. They are so dumb for such smart people, LOL.
Good characterization, Spryte; what the EU has created is a circular firing squad.
Shhh….. there are lots of people who are hell bent on hating anyone and everyone, except our actual enemies.
Because it’s familiar and comfortable.
Our only enemies are our own political establishment, the political establishment of all the “good guy” countries (who we’re told are our natural allies), and the extended family from Saxony who control them both, and never gave up their power…..
In other words, all the people in high places who tell us that “feminism and gay rights are what makes the West better”…..and environmentalism too!
My take on the adage “hate the sin, love the sinner” is “hate all the mass immigration, love all the old school male chauvinism of the immigrants”.
If the homeowner leaves the door unlocked, invites the robber in, serves the robber tea and crumpets, and helps the robber carry the loot out of the house…is it still called robbery?
The West is sinking the West by design.
Steered from behind the veil by opaque US “National Security” agents that became supra-powerful because of 9/11.
As part of covertly aiding the global shift effected by rising China, which cannot be stopped. (“If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em”, as the old saying goes.)
The climate canard is blamed on grifters and greed, but that is a Limited Hangout. The deeper purpose is revealed by it’s follow-on effects now, including the sinking of Germany which had stood as an obstacle to the China Juggernaut.
The German automakers’ are falling on multiple swords – first coerced to misguided focus on EVs (climate canard), exchanging their DNA with China automotive entities (as China dominates EV strategic supply chain), now being undercut by China autos of similar high quality at a fraction of the price.
But we are addicted to all the cheap China products, aren’t we? And look – Christmas shopping season is about to start. The container ships and trucks are hauling the massive wave of material, ready to fill our lives with mostly unnecessary new stuff that will be filling the landfills in a few years. The cycle continues, filling the hollow American zeitgeist. Black Friday is almost here. Happy Thanksgiving – don’t forget the vanity products.
I feel better now!
I do not blame the Chinese.
When we in Eurostan adopt a taxing system to control the weather, this is the result.
Our roads are half full of Chinese made milk floats, driven by brainless morons like turkeys voting for Christmas.
Just now our “betters” are over in Turkey doing just that at a thing called COP where they arrived in 97 private jets.
Their brethren just got elected in America last week.
Westphalia… the decisions of a sovereign at breakfast… my peasants… are they ammo for skeet or loan collateral today. Skull bashers got a great deal in 1648. A royal birthday with gifts… ammo and the great great children’s labor sold to the banks.
No worries, Muslims ride camels. Like the blacks and Jews in the sewer rat states in America, they are going to find out that the camel jockeys will crush them like flies. What you voted for is what you get.
Getting what you voted for–sounds intriguing!
I think we should try it sometime.
Christians can get Cane Corso’s and robot dogs to deal with the muslims.
I’ll keep my Malinois thanks!
Will the people of Germany wake up to this hostile manipulation?!! Watch out Ford and Chevy. Hate to say it but there it is especially based on how our midterms went. Fraud, media control and low-information people. Interesting times these.
That ship sailed long ago. Ford and Changan Motors have been together for years. Any Ford on this side of the pond is from China.
GM has a similar deal with SAIC.
Not wrong, but overstating it a bit.
https://kevinsautos.com/services.html
What percentage of car parts come from China?
Top countries for automotive parts imports 2021:
Mexico US$60,147,245,585 (38% of all imports of automotive parts into the US) Canada US$16,461,364,564 (10% of all imports) China US$15,160,877,927 (9.5%)
Does China own part of Ford Motor Company?
Ford owns many subsidiaries, with some of the most important focused on finance, smart technology, and joint ventures. Some of Ford’s most important international operations include a 50/50 joint venture in China and a 50/50 joint venture in Thailand.
Does Ford use parts from China?
Although it remains an American car brand, many parts are not exclusively manufactured in the country. The automaker also produces and markets vehicles overseas. Some plants manufacture Ford parts in countries like Mexico, Canada, and China.
Are Chevy parts made in China?
Most Chevy parts are made in the U.S., especially in the Flint, Michigan area.
The numbers depend on which side of the pond you are on.
Tesla started in China in case people didn’t know.
No, Tesla was not started in China, nor was it founded by Elon Musk. [1]
The President’s tariffs are the reason they ain’t getting in here. After him, who knows. I actually do think the Congress is behind the tariffs on this issue.
This is nothing new. China has been stealing our technology for a long time. And we have gladly been letting them do it.
Our political class has been selling us out to China for a long time. Bill Clinton authorized a satellite to be sent up by a China source, funny thing happened that the rocket blew up, but the satellite was found not to be there. Funny stuff when a Clinton sells technology to an enemy, sorta like treason.
China is as sold out as we are. They are in demographic collapse. One child has left them youthless. All of Asia that is developed has this problem. Japan is 40% below replacement. China is 55% below. Taiwan is 67% below replacement. Even Vietnam is 10% below replacement. Think about how badly you have to treat a mammal to have it choose not to reproduce.
The US has the same carbon credit b.s. It has produced a significant portion of Tesla’s revenue, but with President Trump reducing the CAFE requirements carbon credit revenue has been curtailed significantly. The problem is that carbon credits have not been eliminated entirely so a future tyrannical government can re-energize them. An example of a government created tool that benefits companies ignoring consumer choice.
Imagine refusing to increase your work week from 35 to 38 hours and then watch your job disappear. You really stuck it to your employer. That’ll show ’em.
I was in school before the “new math” stupidity really caught on so the education system could hire more dues payer….er, teachers, but I still think 38 hours is better than no job at all.
It seems like it. Maybe the soon to be eliminated employees think the generous social welfare program will take care of them (too, along with all the “migrants”). Might be a losing bet.
I’m sure in those European countries they have generous welfare benefits, paid for since WWII by the US providing a tariff free environment on which the Europeans enriched themselves.
BINGO! Justin Trudeau is so stupid he told the truth. Trump told him he was going to charge tariffs to all countries accessing our economy. Trudeau said that if we do that, Canada cannot afford their free health care and free benefits,, without the current arrangement.(ripping off America for 70 BILLION PER YEAR) England, France, and Germany are all in the same boat. Their out going checks bounce without American taxpayers money, to balance their checkbook.
I would probably still be working if I had a 35 hour work week.
My typical work week was usually 50-60 hours. I never had the privilege of “working” 35 hours a week so I’m having a hard time having any sympathy for these ungrateful turds.
Idiotic!!! Only 3 hours more.
China is probably behind the union strategy.
Europe is upside down and the people of Europe can’t even see it. It’s a shame we aren’t doing everything we can to prevent that from happening here as well.
Yep, since too many don’t see it here, it’s already here.
Our President is saving our economy, safety…but for how long.
Until he leaves office in January 2029. After that it’s anybody’s guess!
2 years maybe then doomsday again.
How about a Trump card called a tariff on Chinese auto imports to save their jobs and industry. 😂😂
Wait, you mean the same M-B who charges $100k for their version of a Toyota Camry? And you have to pay a subscription fee for heated seats? THOSE guys are having trouble selling cars? No!
have driven both and Mercedes was always a poser car, IMO.
“4 Matic” – an auto transmission that let you pretend it was a manual. 😂
and the Camry’s reliability, engineering, handling, and heated seats have the edge on the Benz –
with no subscriptions.🤣
the only difference being Toyo didn’t skin a calf for their seat coverings.
Same here. I’m not paying double or triple for a car that is objectively inferior to the competition. Also, leather seats are a liability where I live in the deep south. With leather, you hop in the car on an August afternoon and instantly feel like a pork chop who just hit the skillet.
Geely ffs??!!
That manure, right there, is exactly connected in one straight line to UniParty Elite and the extended crime family.
There is no soul in the chyneeze; they have been cleansed of one for generations and social engineering protects the CCP from individual liberty, channeling that energy to the state-run every damned thing. Every thing they make and sell is stolen from someone else, and every teensy bit of money they make goes in to the machine that will eat you alive.
So much for Loosertarian “free trade at all costs” huh?
And.
If you smarty-pants academics think the US is safe from becoming an Asian Borg you are more empty-headed than even I imagined.
The moslems working toward your destruction are in resonance with the communist pukes elsewhere earnestly working toward your destruction. They are politically active, immersed in every aspect of American life, and succeeding despite our imaginary-black-helicopter-super-secret-hopium plans.
Someone call Meathead Hannity and have him bumble through an explanation of how we vote our way out of this, along with his clear proof that “99.99999 per-cent of the FBI” are good, honorable, herr-oohss that deserve our undying respect.
The Germans cooked themselves and the moslems will feast on the carcass.
We’re in big trouble I’m afraid. Dems gonna crush AI, and Chinas gonna win it all with worldwide domination of the tech we developed. Huang has helped that along. Why we EVER let them have ANY chips is beyond me.
Lord, these people are stupid.
So are our voters.
Not enough voters were voting that way to speed things along to the liking of some without importing millions more looters & moochers and then running the steal as insurance.
Not everyone is stupid or ignorant.
Not everyone, but more than enough. See my comment above.
Our voters are lazy, which is why they are stupid.
SEE ABOVE.
As I have said in other threads, and will continue to post until it gets through:, “It’s a Republic, if you can keep it” is because, even before it was defined, the Founders understood, KNEW, that ONE HALF OF THE POPULATION HAS A 2 DIGIT IQ!!!!. Like LESS THAN 100!! And One Third are less than 80!!!! But they vote, Oh yes, they vote. That is what “One man, One Vote” is about. And NO, that is NOT what the founders intended.
IQ isn’t the issue, wisdom is.
Big difference between knowing about something, and whether or not a thing should be done.
Geely from China, due to carbon credits from Germany, while shutting down the Mercedes factory putting Germans out of a job. Then they expect the same out-of-a-job Germans to somehow buy a Geely?
They’re going to be forced to do as Klaus said and “eat zee bugs.” All thanks to their own government.
That’s the plan.
All the auto companies wanted access to the biggest automotive market on the planet but in order to do that they had to sign agreements with Chinese automakers to either use their assembly plants or build new ones in a joint venture. Ford and GM have their deals in China.
Mercedes is banking on name recognition to sell cars but their quality has gone down the drain in recent years. I seem to remember Amazon buying a ton of Mercedes vans for delivery but regretting it later as problems arose. They switched to Nissan.
YES they did. Those same companies that signed away their rights to sell cars in China are bitching and complaining and carrying on about our tariffs. Truth is stranger than fiction.
‘Giant sucking sound’ now being heard in Germany.
Stupid Angela Merkle led them to destruction importing savages too.
This is all gonna be fully robotic shortly. I don’t get it.
It already is for many automakers. There are some tasks that automation cannot do.
WEF and UN Sustainable Development Goals are to have 96% of privately owned vehicles off the road by 2040. Transitioning to public transport, and reducing the size of the middle class (equity goal).
I would rather see a couple million less of the international parasite class and uplift a billion plus into the middle class along the way.
Well, they want to eliminate 95% of world population too so that fits.
WEF and UN are the European monarchs…..the ones who we’ve been taught to believe ( with a religious fervor) are merely just “figureheads”.
The word environment is a very broad term. This genesis is necesary to realize this in 1928 is totally related today. – 1928 – Origin of Environmental agitprop as genesis of the Totalitarian New World Order. This through Environmental mental fear application. At the Sixth Party Congress held in Moscow in 1928, Communists wrote and approved “The Program” to bring in the New World Order. What most Americans cannot comprehend is the real nature of this diabolical criminal scheme. The Program of the Third International called for a global environmental program for transformation of all human beings on earth to accept the New World Order. These and other facts are brought to light by General Benton Partin in his videotape, Globalism: The Program. This through the above 1923-6 continuing Rockefeller Psychopolitics education program from the sending of students to the “Lenin University” now connect – 1913,1923,1926,1929 through 1934,1935 LID, 1945 and on. see: The Communitarian Hoax – Author: Jeri Lynn Ball — The Great Deceit – Author: Dobbs — Color Communism & Common Sense – Author: James Manning – Lighthouse Trails publishing – ISBN # 9780-1-942423-55-3
To think that Ford also has a “partnership” with Geely spells the doom for the once great American Auto Company.
Fun Fact: Henry Ford brought Muslim Syrians and their mosque to Dearborn a century ago. They worked for less.
And they bred and inbred and inbred and brought their families. So now we have Dearbornistan
Remember the Ranger Pickup of the 90’s? They were built on the MAZDA line – IN DETROIT!!! Right along with the Mazda B2000 which was mechanically identical. The 2.3L engine was the same one as the MIATA, Just de-tuned, and with the same 5 speed transmission. The MAZDA pickups were then loaded on ships and sent to Japan.
This has been going on ever since Clinton allowed the Chinese to build sub-assemblies (Wings) for Boeing, which required that they be given the Airfoil library that Boeing had maintained since before WWII, which had to be de-classified, of course.
I was working there when that happened.
Yep. Another example was the Chrysler Plymouth Dodge minivans during the Iococca era. Made in America but the engines were built by Mitsubishi.
When looking at an automobile, for instance; Car Fax, and you would like to know what country it was manufactured in, look at the first character of the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number):
1 is United States
2 is Mexico
3 is Canada
Some countries use an letter, for example, if I remember correctly, Korea is K.
I have thanked the Lord that both of our vehicles were built in the United States.
Check the percentage numbers on the Mulroney sticker for your vehicle. Assembled in the USA has a different meaning when parts come from various sources.
They can learn to code or pick vegetables.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.axsaZDuPJ5XkAps-GqfpLwHaD4%3Fr%3D0%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=87cc1aeb85829ade7ffd646005126581ca953cfe9e8751b057678846b020371a&ipo=images
Sorry..clip of sawing off the branch of a tree you’re sitting on
😁👍
I knew there had to be some carbon credit fines involved in this mess. The carbon credit trading scam and the climate change hoax invented by our old pal, Ex V.P. Al Gore. Al Gore now a multi billionaire thanks to his Wall street firm “Generation Investment Management” which trades and barters carbon credits in every country on earth. Big Al hangs out with the Rothchild bankers and George Soros and is beyond evil.
Invented by the British Crown.
The Rothschilds were just “made men”. Plucked from obscurity by an Austrian prince.
Soros is just a more modern version.
The Saxe Coburg Gothas have a very limited playbook.
It’s easy to spot the same plays being run over and over again…..as long as you can see past all the distractions.
Toto the dog figured it out. The munchkins, not so much.
When I remember what an industrial powerhouse Germany was…and I do..and then remember that German automotive engineering produced top marques which were much sought after (Mercedes, Audi, even Volkswagen)…………
Pretty sure, Alice, that all the chairs at the table set for teatime by the Mad Hatter are now taken.
It’s that fine German engineering. Even the simplest task requires disassembly.
Note the new Audi Q9
https://youtube.com/shorts/gaFXHEVfpqQ?is=29Wmjn1TMZw_Duyh
Yes…
That.
…how the mighty have fallen.
Audi also has a sordid wicked nazi past
Audi discovers deep Nazi past including concentration camp workers, 4500 deaths
An investigation into Audi’s past has found that one of the company’s founders had deep Nazi connections and the company had used workers housed in Nazi Germany’s concentration camps.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/audi-discovers-deep-nazi-past-including-concentration-camp-workers-4500-deaths/
My father would only buy Ford cars
https://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ford-motor-company-nbsp-and-the-third-reich
All the German cars mnfrs were Nazi sympathisers and collabrators. Even BMW–the Qandt family
BMW’s Quandt Family to Investigate Wealth Amassed in Third Reich
Germany’s wealthy and reclusive Quandt family, a major BMW shareholder, has gone on the defensive. For decades the family repressed its Nazi past, but a new documentary film provides new photos of old revelations that have prompted the Quandts to confront their own history of using slave laborers in factories during World War II.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/breaking-the-silence-bmw-s-quandt-family-to-investigate-wealth-amassed-in-third-reich-a-511193.html
How Hitler’s Favorite Family (the Qandts) Still Controls Germany
Mercedes and Volkswagen made cars and tanks for the Nazis So IMO this is karma
During World War II, Daimler-Benz (the maker of Mercedes-Benz) heavily collaborated with the Nazi regime, converting its production for the German military and relying extensively on forced and slave labor
‘Daimler-Benz in the Third Reich’: An Industrial Stop Before Auschwitz:
Here the interests of Daimler-Benz and the SS both merged and clashed. The auto maker-turned-armament-maker needed replacements for skilled and unskilled workers to keep their factories running and profitable; the SS needed more bodies to fulfill the quotas for the ovens at Auschwitz and the other concentration camps.
A Nazi racial hierarchy developed inside the Daimler-Benz factories, with thousands of Jewish slave laborers being treated even worse than Polish workers. The author writes: “In other words, as soon as the company had trained their replacements, it was ready to release the Jews for deportation — in the full knowledge of what this meant for the Jews concerned. For Daimler-Benz, only the securing of a steady production was important.”
https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/06/21/daily/daimler-book-review.html
Volkswagen/Porsche
Slave Labor: Volkswagen heavily relied on forced labor. At peak wartime operations, a massive portion of its workforce—up to 70–80%—consisted of conscripted forced laborers, concentration camp prisoners, and slave labor from across Europe working under brutal conditions
Volkswagen’s Nazi-Era Blood Crimes
Its executives—not Nazi officials—oversaw the murder of hundreds of infants of slave laborers.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/volkswagens-nazi-era-blood-crimes/
So no-I DONT CARE. Let Germany fall.
Karma
The same thing occurred with American companies minus the Nazi heritage of course.
I knew this, Charlotte, but there are probably those who didn’t.
Worth remembering the Allies exfiltrated many Nazis at the top of their hierarchy.
So does this mean that Carney has managed to secure all the MB car manufacturing will now move to Canada as part of the welcome to “Partial” Eu membership he so cleverly got for us here in Canada? What a man!!?? /sarc
And it is all 100% intentional. They know what China will do. The knowingly enrich China while pushing for war against Russia. I hope you all know why because I sure do.
Satan worshipping bolshevicks want all White Christian countries destroyed. Period
Well there are Satan worshipping leftists, mooslimes and DemonRats right here in this country that want all white Christians dead (destroyed).
The kings and queens of Europe want to rule over nothing but powerless peasants once again.
And they don’t care what color their skin is.
If Whites are more difficult to oppress, then yes, they want to get of Whites to achieve a neo-feudalist global future.
It’s got nothing to do with Bolsheviks, who are just a Spirit Halloween creation of the monarchs.
I am sure that your authentic German citizens can find employment at the Russian front.
Things are seriously getting crazier and crazier. The whole world is reaching an inflection point of no return. Even here the next 2 years will be a nightmare trying to get anything done, and if trends stay true, theres a chance that Dems will win the White House next time around. Video call of Chicago teachers Union got leaked of them conspriing with leftist French Teacher activists to plan for mass disruption, at scale, May 2028. The ride is about to get real bumpy. Buckle up. God save America.
Q: Who invented these “Carbon Credits” out of thin air, so to speak, and handed them to the Chinee to sell back to the West in the first place? Albert Armand
HammerGore, Jr.?It has zero to do with Net Zero and the temperature a century from now.
It is ALL a Rich Man’s Trick to transfer Wealth and Sovereignty from working people in the Middle Class to our Parasite Traitor
ElitesScumbags.You may quote me.
YES! Daimler Dumkopfs!
Is Canada paying attention?
The EU really needs that war with Russia; that military economy is what they need, and conscription is being planned.
They think that if they got people to submit to COVID rules, they will submit to conscription.
They can always mobilize the muslim illegal immigrants to kidnap Germans off the street, like in Ukraine.
The illegals, acting as thugs, will be allowed unlimited access to the women and children, consent not required.
“China figures out a way to make the same or similar product at a less expensive cost.”
Start with ‘Typical annual Mercedes employee pay ~€45,000–€55,000 vs Chinese employee ~€8,000–€12,000. Then add in no R&D (they just steal it), add in cheap steel, and voila!
The climate change HOAX from the beginning was absurd but China used it to their advantage. Germans should have known better!
Beyond Alice in Wonderland thinking .
EV mandates, can’t meet them because customers want v8’s and power so they buy the carbon credit from China so China can put them out of business
by selling the EV’s that do meet the mandate from the governmental agency no one voted for.
Is that about right?
“China figures out a way to make the same or similar product at a less expensive cost. This is the same outcome suffered by Volkswagen, and now China is positioned to sell Geely autos into the German market.”
I do not want to sound rude but they do not even need to figure out.
If they are able to produce the same quality(copy the process) in China, then it is already cheaper, by a substantial amount.
China’s factory workers earn less by a noticeable margin compared to their german counterparts.
China has access to cheaper russian gas, oil and all kinds of natural resources. Germany pays multitudes of the price for these same resources.
If the price for energy is 4 times as costly in Germany than in China, even if you payed the same amount of money to your factory workers you would be able to produce it cheaper. (Not at 25% cost though:P Since the cost of these resources is only partially present in the full cost.)
If on the other hand they are even able to innovate in regards to the manufacturing process to add something further to it:
Then it will be three advantages over the germans.
Let us say they pay 2/3rd of the wages of a german factory worker over in China.
They pay only 25% of the energy resource cost than germans.
Finally they also have most of the required material locally produced.
If they can copy the product in China, then a copy made in china is generally at least 25% cheaper to produce. (And i am probably VERY CONSERVATIVE with the 25% estimate.)
Previously the increased price was mostly due to the difference in factory worker salaries. (Which also many regarded as a difference in quality between the cars. The one produced in china and the one produced in germany.) Now it is not so.
It becomes every expensive to produce a single car in germany because of the energy prices and other restrictions on certain materials which usually also require energy to be produced. So what we see is a domino effect appearing on most of the german supply chain in relation to car production. (And other products as well.)
A very simple example: If it takes 4 times as much energy to produce say 10 kilograms of certain metals, then in order to thereafter to process into something also takes 4 times as much energy and finally to install it into some product also requires four times as much energy, these prices soar through all the supply chain. Increasing the price range of each product by a substantial amount. (Not by x64 though. But by their respective cost ratios. If previously 15% of the was energy, now if it costs 4 times as much it increased the cost of energy to 60%. So if previously 15 cents were spent on energy from 1 dollar, now 60 cents are spent from 1.45 dollars to produce the same value. Just consider it, this is very similar to inflation cost!)
To make things worse, if your energy prices are already high, then allowing unrestricted immigration to your country is an even stupider decision since all it will do is increase the demand on energy resources. (And all other resources and services, since they also require energy.)
So this is a sure way to fall in to a debt trap, debt spiral and increasing inflation path.
Expounding on your first point, this applies to everything made in China for the most part. I use a Chinese blood glucose meter for my daily testing. The strips are cheaper compared to the Ascensia unit I had previously. I also wear Chinese hearing aids. Far far cheaper than the major brands.
I am aware.
I just stayed relevant this time to the topic, and did not want to go into a full on economic presentation or lecture.
Benz is investing 7 billion into the U.S. and looks like maybe more coming. Mercedes my become an U.S. company, good by Germany. The Germans know U.S. workers will work as many hours as they can get, 40 hours is nothing. Treat them fair and production goes up!
The ones left out in the cold will be China. They are having a hard time selling that junk to their own people. I’ve seen videos of people bring their vehicles in for driving problems and finding out rust is eating the undercarriage out, weaking the frames.
TODAY : TRUMP TERRIFIES THEM
MESSAGE from MERZ to TRUMP – Merz wants no Trump surprises
BERLIN, Nov 13 (Reuters) – German Chancellor Friedrich Merz on Friday urged US President Donald Trump not to spring any surprises during expected talks on Ukraine with Russian President Vladimir Putin in China next week.
“Some here in Dublin fear this could turn into a ‘second Anchorage moment’,” said Merz, referring to the Trump-Putin summit in Anchorage, Alaska, that European leaders had viewed as a potentially pivotal moment in efforts to end the war in Ukraine.
“I therefore want to state our message to the United States very clearly: please, no surprises. Continue to play as part of ‘Team Europe’ and ‘Team Ukraine’.”
More… https://www.reuters.com/world/china/germanys-merz-asks-trump-no-surprises-putin-talks-2026-11-13/
Merz can get stuffed
Canada’s PM Carney believes EU auto companies will take over American car factories in Canada. But that makes no sense to an EU car company. Europe and Canada are now being flooded with Chinese cars and can’t compete. Only the US has banned them, and so the US is their biggest market. When tariffs go up, the cars made in Canada will be unaffordable. So Europe’s only move is to put them here.
“Smarts of the Deal? “
At least the Europeans are consistent with their suicidal policies:
Borders – suicidal
(Western) Civilization – suicidal
Economy – suicidal
Energy – suicidal
Manufacturing – suicidal
(Christian) Philosophy – suicidal
Self Defense – suicidal
They hate themselves and they have a death wish. After 1000 years of struggle, Islam (as well as China) will wipe out even the memory of them. After the Caliphate is established, European history and accomplishments will be nothing but a footnote in future history books (right next to the Celts, Vandals and Visigoths), which will only be read by Islamic history scholars living in the area which birthed the Age of Enlightenment. These scholars will wonder to themselves, how could such a smart, talented and innovative civilization destroy themselves, leaving virtually no trace.
Santos Malderone is chuckling heartily into his glass of wine.
Perhaps they can locate in a third location, bringing even more US jobs.
I have a chinese Briggs and Stratton in my pressure washer. It works better that the Honda it replaced. I live 40 miles from the the B&S foundry. A B&S 6 hp cost $400 and the Chicom cost $125.
Currency exchange manipulation.
Nah, compared to their formerly American made product they are now just “Briggs and Scrap’em.” My 10-year-old Honda lawn mower still runs great.
More green energy….that will solve the Germany issue….for someone.
couldn’t have happened to a better bunch of n a h t z e e s
some of us don’t forget
The German Governmemt had wrecked the German Automobile industry and compromised the premium brands !
Cheap amg convertible is what’s on my mind. V8 or V12. Def turbo.
Come on Mercedes we have a nice spot for you over by the town of awesome workers. Right next to the cheap energy lake with the awesome views.
STUPID Americans, never fear, the COMMIEcrats are going to bring the Chinese model to America soon.
Not under this President they ain’t……..
Can you imagine how stupid the German employees are to accept this BS. I mean, at what point do the people say enough is enough. Berman people are probably the most productive people in the world and they have let themselves be destroyed by EU Elites.
Europe is it own worst enemy. Fines for not meeting electric quotas, 35 hour work week, buying carbon credits….. circular firing squad.
Unbelievable
It’s all by design, Germans, and the EU for that matter, are not ignorant, just psychotic
A nice big war will be required to straighten things out, get stuff back on track…get rid of the millions of people not required to sustain them now that robotics can meet our production needs
Mohameds driving Chynese vehicles, the new face of Europe
Who knows what the end game will play out to be but it’s migrating to a neighborhood near you
The midterms expose a very large chink in OUR armor:
https://alfrancis.substack.com/p/at-the-crossroads?r=1nbcvc&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
Learn or burn!