Judicial Watch presents an investigative review of TWA flight 800 thirty years later. Many of us likely remember the horrific news of the 747 explosion, crash and subsequent investigation that never made sense.
Within the new documentary, Judicial Watch emphasizes the focus of the ¹FBI in taking control of the investigation which never made sense. Friend of the Treehouse Jack Cashill is one of the experts who gives testimony within the documentary. The 45-minute video is very well worth watching.
¹Knowing what we know now about the activity of the FBI, the investigation and cover-up look even worse.
Posted in Big Government, Conspiracy ?, Death Threats, Deep State, Domestic Terrorism, FBI, media bias, Notorious Liars, propaganda
The Clinton’s
“The Clintons” what? Explain please.
The Clintons covered it up? If so, why?
Did they cover up SwissAir 111, Egypt Air 990, and Alaska Air 261? Do you think all these are connected?
Does it seem more plausible considering how the 9-11 attacks happened soon after Bush took power, and there was no way to cover that one up as an ‘accident’.
If you watch the video you will understand your Clinton question
Those are all very different situations and none bear any resemblance to TWA 800…
The Alaska Air crash was clear mechanical failure and there had been whistleblowers prior to the crash warning about the fact that the jackscrew maintenance was not being done correctly nor on schedule!
Swiss Air was a cabin fire due to the recent installation of a new electrical system, and a significant amount of flammable material in the area where it had been installed.
Egypt Air, similar to the events of 9/11, was caused by a Muslim extremist who should never have been allowed to fly anything, let alone a large passenger jet!
Watch the video and you will understand why the TWA flight was a completely different situation AND why the Clintons and the Fibbies have been blamed for 30 for covering up what really happened that day!
An aside concerning the Alaska Airlines crash– I seem to recall something about the jackscrews being of substandard quality. Made in China.
Boeing was one of the main companies that got sucked into the whole NAFTA debacle early on – forced to source inferior parts from China in order to continue getting big defense contracts…
Why am I not surprised? SPIT!!!
In the Alaska Airlines case, the cause was due to extended maintenance intervals, and insufficient lubrication.
The “China” rumor was just that, supposedly the horizontal stabilizer, but was not true in that case.
Did you watch the dang video?
Short version, bad press for Clinton if this was terrorism, or caused by our military.
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When the FBI says it will never stop investigating………..(insert crime) it’s a euphemism for the FBI stopping investigating and just running out the clock until time covers up public interest and new evidence! JMO
Put simply one cannot trust anything the feds say.
The one thing that the Feds were adamant about was convincing eyewitnesses that they did not see a missile closing in on TWA Flight 800 before the explosion and subsequent crash..
Where the missile would have come from only gets more interesting.
I remember that.
Amazingly, Americans are told we are not to believe what we see with our own eyes.
Did anyone catch Jet fuel A ?
How often were we told it was the jet fuel that brought down the Twin Towers!!
Building 7 is still the odd one out. Considering that were a bunch of records stored from several agencies in the offices within only leads to more questions.
LOTS more questions!
The more answers you get the more questions arise; the Intelligence Industrial Complex knows all the mind games to play you.
The more you dig the closer you get to outer space; it’s sl’e’ight of hand CIA style! See how that ‘e’ is thrown in, that’s how the Intelligence Industrial Complex maneuvers our minds.
Look up sleight vs slight…….spelling is my downfall, so I look up stuff when I can’t get my sister, this went back to my school days….
God Help US
The words below are from our CREATOR.
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. (Genesis 1:6, KJV)
Of course Jet A burns. If not, your plane would sit at the gate.
Twin Towers and Building 7 were part of a Red Flag incident so they could pass the pre-prepared Patriot Act. The Fibbies knew of the Muslims flight training, they even knew of a planned attack, but never discovered the when and where. They could have arrested on grounds of planning an attack. They did not!
Those who claim to be protecting us, murdered over 2,000 souls for the opportunity to spy on us more effectively with fewer hurdles.
IIRC…one eye witness was a Naval Officer on vacation ….standing on the beach. He said he saw a ship to air missile hit the airplane.
Seems to me a Naval Officer would be more than qualified to identify a ship-to-air missle?
The gas lighting began and his testimony was buried by NYTimes ASAP.
I recall hearing of this one somewhere but not a lot of the details aside from the lead going dark pretty quick.
‘Truth’ is not what matters to the Intellectual Industry Complex; subterfuge is their middle name and their motto. AND they are masters of the game.
Trump and a few others in history actually had a good enough handle on their tactics to upset their applecart full of lies.
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Sleight of Hand is easy to spot once you know why they put the ‘e’ in. Don’t look for the ‘easy’ answer look for the extrordinary……..oops extraordinary.
Ah. now you get where UFO’s come from; the Intelligence Industrial Complex are masters at making things complex and where else do they have to go but ‘outer space’………the rabbit hole of all the nefarious things they do. The farther you dig the closer you get to outer space; get it??
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Deception is their game! Literally.
Ah, but what replaced Project Bluebeam when that was declassified?
I met some air traffic controllers one evening. They were in town for a convention. It was a few months after this happened. One I spoke with said he was in the tower that night in NY. He would not go into details but adamantly swore it was shot down. Who knows?
Watch the video.
Radar traces would support the missile theory.
Rush Limbaugh put a lot of stock into the credibility of James Kallstrom’s FBI investigation of this event, just saying.
Back when the FBI still had a modicum of credibility.
The PR campaigns (propaganda) were still effective then.
Exactly they monopolized it then.
But the diminishment of their efficacy began there for many people.
People in the industry knew there was a cover up. Enough knowledge enables one to see the fabrication occuring even if you don’t know all the facts.
Everybody can be conned. Even Rush.
Little detail in that presentation. Almost all commercial aviation has equipment that maintains a vacuum in those tanks. All fumes get swept away!
Nothing was there to be ignited!
Which is the perfect reason why we don’t have plains blowing up willy nilly all over the world.
Simply put. Kalstrom is an idiot.
A liar is more like it, IMO …
You’re both right! Kallstrom was a lying idiot!
Kalstrom died in 2021. We cannot bring him in for questioning.
Perhaps there are those who worked under him still living who can be questioned.
A better question is why the NTSB, which has jurisdiction and expertise for the investigation, get replaced by the FBI?
Invoking matters of National Security is a pathway to many coverups some consider to be unjust.
^^^^^THIS^^^^^
All aircraft incidents and accidents are handled by the FAA. If there is a fatality involved, then the NTSB steps in and takes over.
A death is not required for the NTSB to get involved.
The Fan Belt Inspectors are better at covering up and hiding things. I would think most of us know that by now.
They thought it was a terrorist attack, so the FBI had jurisdiction until proven otherwise.
The question remains why did the think that it was terrorism? An investigation must be predicated on something.
Obviously, The feds knew what caused the explosion. No need for NTSB to find that . The FBI was sent in to cover up the truth.
Further, the CIA later created an animation showing a ridiculous animation defying all laws of physics.
What the hell is the CIA doing being involved in an aircraft crash?
All of this cover-up in late July 1996 was to save Bill Clinton’s re-election that fall. The White House situation room was monitoring the secret missile test when it went catastrophically wrong. There were air traffic control radar tapes that disappeared because they recorded the missile rising and intercepting the airliner.
Nobody ever explained why U.S. Navy ships present below quickly steamed away from their positions in the sea where the airliner debris fell.
I recall reading about that CIA animation somewhere and in some detail. I don’t recall which entity was investigating their involvement…possibly some Senator, but I recall the CIA refusing to provide the full names of two of the briefers sent to answer questions about it. I believe they also refused to provide any details about how they concluded the animation was possible.
Many at the time voiced their belief that the animation was complete bull squeeze, but eventually that interest went quiet.
The CIA essentially did the same thing after the first Gulf War when the government was forced to admit US soldiers were exposed to chemical fall-out when bunkers were bombed. Their “timeline” and mapping of the fall-out for the exposure was essentially 3 days, and did not account for any troop movement during that 3 days. If your unit was on one side of a road, you were considered exposed. If your unit was on the other side, you were not exposed. It didn’t matter if soldiers left their unit at any point or any time in those 3 days.
What did Sandy Berger steal from the National Archives? Still waiting for an answer. Was it possibly;
The Criminals In Action likely funded the “terrorists” through a USAID cutout in Cairo.
And the CIA with the zoom climb cartoon says much the same.
Yes, FBI immediately inserted themselves citing “terrorism”. What did they know and when did they know it?
In those days, Rush had no problem stumping for the new world order crowd.
He redeemed himself in later years.
Oh, the good old days of Dog and Pony shows taking up Our election cycles; until the Tea Party started and We learned to recognize their ‘handling’ of US We were pedaling uphill.
Don’t let the ‘shows’ get Us off track ever again. We’re on level ground at the top of the hill.
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They Intelligence Industrial Complex are the masters of ‘sweeping under the carpet’ any and all nefarious acts of ‘destruction’ carried out on their orders.
EVERY war, assassination, mass murder, mass destruction, from leaders to collateral damage is at their behest!! Getting to the bottom of ‘any’ world disaster is never gonna happen…….their ‘cover’ has been painted over so often it’s layers can never be completely removed. They always have ‘cover’. Don’t ya know.
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I remember clearly when this happened. Katie Couric was interviewing the husband and father of three victims, his wife and two daughters were taking a trip to Paris together. The girls were only 10 or 11 years old and they were on the flight.
“The girls can swim” he said. He mentioned their names and said “I won’t stop looking for you.” I have never forgotten that man’s words and his hope against hope that they would be found.
Were I in his shoes, I’d rather be crazy than accept reality.
Let them be there swimming as long as is needed.
yes.
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He was from Houston. I recall that also. very touching.
I was transiting NYC via JFK that day and it was very surreal
That tree has been baring rotten fruit since j.edger Hoover.
Time to chop it down.
As well as the SeaEyeA
When over 22.000 people visually seen multiple objects going from sea level up to the plane and then being told by the Clowns In Action it was fuel burning up to the plane never sat well.
When a plane has never before or since had “Wiring short out in the fuel tanks” that was another strike against their official narrative.
Someone was on that plane that had to be removed no matter how many innocent lives were taken.
The Clowns In Action did the garbage shoved down our throats.
So who was that person the removal of whom was so important?
I’d expect there was an individual important in investigating the Lorel rocket failure in China and related technology transfer.
Loral Space, the firm that illegally sold China the technology to finally launch and transition beyond the atmosphere. The received a minimal fine just like the company that sold the 5 Axis machining technology to produce “silent” screws on our nuclear sub fleet.
Yup San, the burning fuel theory made me laugh. As an old aircraft mechanic, Jet-A (nor JP’s 4, 5 or 8) doesn’t just light up. It needs pressure and heat to burn well. A spark? Maybe plausible to the public that may think gasoline is the fuel that jets use but not to industry blue collars. (As a side note, in a pinch, older jet engines can use gasoline after making a fuel control setting change.) I always figured it was the government killing a bunch of innocents to get one person. Sorta like, who was it, Ron Brown? Plane crash in the side of a mountain. Bosnia? Herzigova? Croatia? Somewhere in that neck of the woods. Tied to the Kilintins. Altimeter issue…sure.
Now do 9/11
Put Las Vegas on that list…
Absolutely.
It’s like that never happened.
We on the conservative side don’t mention it very often as far as I can tell.
Never bought the explanation of that being done by one guy with a bunch of weapons equipped with bump stocks.
I listened to the audio, and I know what I heard sounded distinctly like belt-felt weaponry. Much like a M249 or M240B.
Everything about it is bogus.
The wife (I think it was a wife) story doesn’t ring true a bit.
A fall guy, and contrivances to crack down on bump stocks.
Even though I think using a bump stock would be a bit silly and contrary to practicing good marksmanship, trying to ban them is a fundamental transgression.
Butler PA
A complete inside job, even with a high speed camera to record the bullets hitting!
No one ever mentions Vegas. Weird huh?
The wife does.
A guy did a great breakdown on that. All about the Saudi Royal Family power struggle. MBS was at the 4 seasons. His cousins wanted him dead before he could modernize Saudi into the 21st century. Prince Bin Talal and all the cousins went to house arrest for that caper. If you are going to kill the king in waiting, better not miss.
There is a great breakdown about it, what “the line” and other MBS projects were about. Moving time forward with the right, while distracting the country with shiny objects on the left.
Would like to read/watch the break down you’re referring to. Will you post a link or a name, please?
The guy you’re referencing is John Cullen. His video breakdown of Vegas shooting can be found on Youtube and Rumble.
Don’t forget Waco and Ruby Ridge!!
Do Nixon next. Deep Throat was the #2 man in the FBI.
I remember the constant discrediting of a bomb or missile strike by the authorities. Something just didn’t add up.
Then they discovered traces of nitroglycerin and other chemicals which fueled the bomb theory but later on the authorities said this came from glue. Now I’m no scientist but I wasn’t born yesterday either.
I also know that while kerosene is considered flammable it doesn’t really burn all that well.
Nothing added up in my opinion .
Shakespeare and “doth protesteth too much”
Tell elon musk that.👀
Making matters worse is that the government came up with an explanation for why explosive residue was found. Bomb sniffing dog test. Case closed. Until it was later learned that the aircraft aboard which the test was run could not have been N93119. So they came up with another story about transporting troops home from Kuwait.
“the focus of the ¹FBI in taking control of the investigation which never made sense.”
I distinctly remember where I was that weekend, because I was out of town and and due to circumstances beyond my control, I had to spend the night in house with two heavy smokers in a house that also smelled from 4 large dogs.
I thought that was really suspect when the FBI took over the
investigationshow.Good times!
Show is right.
Seems the NTSB was a party to an FBI investigation.
I dare venture to say that the NTSB was an unwilling participant in the cover up.
I wonder how many people from how many Departments where threatened into silence and going along with the lies?
Judicial Watch is a great organization!
Agree. Respect their tenacity in so many matters. However hope all persons putting background noise in videos have hearing loss themselves eventually.
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30 years ago, I was an avid listener to the Art Bell program (Coast to Coast AM) and the subject of TWA flight 800 was hashed over time and time again by Mr. Bell and Mr. Cashill. None of it made any sense, especially when there were so many eyewitness accounts of missiles streaking toward the jet. I’ve been following this topic closely ever since!
What stands out for me was that there no corrective action taken by the airplane manufactures to avoid another accidental failure of what they blamed it on.
No faulty wiring inspections
No AAR at all. Just happened, move on.
NTSB was created around 1967. BATF was created in the late 1700’s…moved to the treasury dept around 1972 and then to DOJ around 2003, following the Homeland Security Act of 2002….haha, any questions?
Yes, usually all aircraft of that type (747s) would be grounded; at least for a short period of time while details could be examined. I don’t recall that happening.
You are correct. It did not happen, and if that fuel tank theory was correct, it would have happened.
Is there anything that stands out over everything else after 30 years of following?
See my response to Bombero.
I used to listen to Art regularly as I worked the swing shift so he kept me alert on my 45 minute drive home st night. That show was fascinating.
Long drives from parents in the Bay Area to home for me – Bell kept me up in eager and incredulous anticipation .Onlt time I listened to him – too fringy for me, but great for late night driving when one needed to stay awake. Where did he fit into the current state of affairs and what was his real mission and connections to the tales he wove? He certainly was not mainstream radio at the time.
Judicial Watch is a gem!
Funny thing that Fuel Tank Explosion has Never been Recreated by anyone. That is actually astonishing if you know anything about Aircraft. And I do.
Or submarine capabilities.
Reminding myself for an 8 X 12 reason, nice bright colors blues, whites ,greys, oranges, yellows….from around ’81…
Brakes work, not suicidal…
The atmosphere in the tank would have to be between the LEL and UEL an extremely unlikely event.
Heck almost every car in America has an electric motor in the fuel tank cooled by the gasoline.
any 1st year physics student said the same thing. Also 1st year physics students could see thru the explanation of the OKC bombing. I will not “worship” at their OKC memorial until they tell the truth.
In 1989, a Boeing KC-135 tanker blew up in flight, when an exposed, overheated fuel pump threw a spark into its largely empty main fuel tank; traced to a spark arrestor shroud omitted in previous depot MX. Never heard a peep about that one, by way of comparison. Likewise, no collateral grounding of 747s, to check for unsafe conditions in their fuel systems; which told me the TWA800 investigators were never serious about their internal explosion theory. This whole ‘800 “investigation” stank to high-Heaven from the start.
And how about all the other flights that took of from the East and West coast and crashed?
TWA 800 – July 17, 1996 – 12 minutes after takeoff from JFK – exploded over Atlantic Ocean – (electrical short igniting fuel vapors resulting in explosion. Plane ascended after the nose being blown off…)
Swissair 111 – September 2, 1998 – 53 minutes after takeoff from JFK- crashed into Atlantic Ocean – (entertainment system caught fire)
Egypt Air 990 – October 31, 1999 – 33 minutes after takeoff from JFK – crashed into Atlantic Ocean (pilot ‘suicidal’ and intentionally crashed the plane)
Alaska Airlines 261 – January 31, 2000 – crashed into Pacific Ocean – (Bolt broke in horizontal stabilizer. They somenow found it at the bottom of the ocean)
9-11- September 11, 2001 – Four planes hijacked. They said “oh, we never imagined people would use planes like that. Oops, sorry 2,997 American citizens who were killed, needlessly. Sorry good, hard-working American people who were forced to jump to their deaths from the top of the World Trade Center.” They had all kinds of warnings and already had been tracking many of the hijackers. They had ample opportunity to intervene, investigate and roll up the operation. They even had ample opportunity to shoot down the planes before they hit the towers, but they didn’t.
I worked in air freight forwarding during this time. They suddenly started telling us to check packages for wires, powder, etc, and to get IDs and separate shipments by ‘known’ and ‘unknown’ shippers. Something was going on. My theory is some entity was taking out passenger planes to push the US into a war. Clinton kept covering it up. Nine months after Bush is elected, 9-11 happens. Try to explain away that one as an ‘accident’. They got what they wanted. When will this ever be investigated?
Swiss Air 111 – who would put flammable thermal acoustic insulation on a plane? Very bad engineering decision.
Egypt Air 990 – If it showed the flight controls were changed by the pilot to crash the plane – I have to agree with the NTSB. Difficult to know the pilots motive for such an evil act. No signs or evidence of any other issues.
Alaska Air 261 – Considering the changes to the maintenance protocol (very significant changes), it would be considered an accident. Again, bad engineering when not understanding the load and necessary maintenance. Pilots tried to gain control, also no sign of foul play. For it to be foul play someone would have had to rig the failure.
9-11 – Opinions are great, we all have one. I see this as another government problem of letting it happen. There have been other shootings were the FBI let things happen. It is either gross incompetence or evil malfeasance to allow things to happen. Of course we don’t know who else in government played a role.
ValuJet 592, May 11, 1996 – Crashed in Florida Everglades. This was due to improperly stored/handled chemical oxygen generators by subcontractor SabreTech. We used the same when I served in the Navy aboard submarines. It does not take much to ignite them and they burn very hot. I would never allow them on a plane. The question I have about this is, was it careless handling or deliberate mishandling.
In the late 80’s to mid 90’s I worked in Logistics, so I am familiar with the request to separate out known shippers from unknown and the extra screening. I even had a personal shipment where I went into FedEx office to ship; they wanted to know who I was, check my ID, etc., never had that kind of experience before or after. Clearly there had to be some intelligence to trigger the precautions.
If you want crazy stuff check out Federal Express Flight 705, April 7, 1994. FedEx employee was a deadhead passenger and tried to crash the plane after fearing he would be fired. He wanted the insurance money for his wife. This employee brought on board hammers and a speargun. The subsequent fight in the cockpit caused the plane to do maneuvers that it should have fell apart. Luckily the employee was subdued, the plane landed and now he is spending the rest of his life in prison without parole.
Started watching a show called ‘Mayday:Air Disaster’ and was surprised to see them describe what took place on two plane crashes; TWA 800 and the Pentagon on 9/11.
Don’t know if the show was paid off or forced to say what they said, but for both mysterious/murderous/manipulative events they wrapped what happened up in big lies and told us there was nothing to see.
Here’s the link to see how they wrapped up TWA 800.
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200196960/s17-e04-explosive-proof
I know that’s an old picture, but does anyone know if that fuselage is still patched together in a warehouse somewhere or did they eventually take it all apart again?
They took it apart and either recycled or destroyed it. It was obsolete for any investigation training which was its purpose
Thanks
Every piece was laser scanned before this occurred.
At the request of the victims’ families, it was also agreed no parts be disposed of in the ocean.
The FIB, Covering Up for the Deep State, USSA for a long time. A Long List.
Jack Cashill has been steadfast in covering this tragedy. I lived and worked not far from the site. Shortly after the plane went down I spoke with a couple that were on the beach that day. They were certain something came from the horizon. The fuel tank story makes no sense. As many have noted, planes would have been falling out of the sky if this were possible.
As those on this site know full well, we are long past the point where we can give much credibility to what our government, much less the media, tells us.
Most definitely per your screen name saying it all.
Navy sub missile launch took down TWA 800. No rant intended.
Yes – Jack Cashill has the definitive account of this incident. Many, many witnesses saw a missile fly up from the horizon and hit the jet. His theory is that it was an accident by the navy, but since it was so close to the 1996 election, the Clinton crime family had it covered it up. The CIA took over the investigation (remember – the CIA is not supposed to have any domestic involvement) and lied about all of it. The Clintons and their handlers in the IC were responsible for the phony “investigation.”
Thx. That’s the answer in a nutshell. Sad that our intelligence community & govt officials are such bonafide liars. Reminds one of the liar in Eden that started all this chaos. (Father of lies)
Netflix had a TWA 800 documentary, now pulled, which i found very interesting. The now retired NTSB investigators for flight 800 give their opinions. You can find the documentary on youtube. worth the watch
I remember that. Nobody I know believed it. I certainly didn’t.
Wonder who, exactly, was on that flight?
My thoughts, too.
It was The Freeest and Fairest, most safe and secure, Fuel leak ever.
I remember Pierre Salinger, JFK/s former press secretary, being interviewed saying he had photographic evidence of a rocket being fired at TWA 800, and showed the pictures. When asked where he got them, he replied off the internet. He was immediately dismissed as a kooky conspiracy theorist.
I wonder where those pictures are today and who it was that posted them.
See my post about submarines, up thread…granted, from AI and old info, but it makes one wonder….
We need input from our ‘sub vet’ Treeper….
OPEN SOURCE Aggiegirl, IF THEY’re Talking about it in TRADE Magazines – IT’s BEEN DONE for AWHILE
https://www.twz.com/6894/have-submarine-launched-anti-aircraft-missiles-finally-come-of-age
( and NO i AM NOT a BUBBLEHEAD )
The Clinton FBI under Janet Reno were nothing but murderous lying leftist thugs. The US dodged a fatal bullet when President Trump won. The people who conspired behind Covid, the vaxx and election fraud. MUST be held accountable!
I watched the 747 pilot Al Frank do an in depth about this. He is a flying Sundance. Horrific, like so many other things that do not pass the smell test.
I would rather be behind a drunk foreign trucker than fly or sail on a ship.
Agree!!!! If I can’t drive there I don’t go!
Tom Stalcup’s documentary on this is really good. As is Cashill’s book. You simply cannot read through all the evidence and eyewitness accounts, and all the absurdities in the government’s story (eg a powerless, noseless 747 climbing nearly half a mile into the air with no thrust and no aerodynamic effciency) and think this was a random centerline fuel tank that exploded because warm fuel vapors were ignited by wiring bundles that don’t carry anywhere near the voltage to actually ignite jet A.
Bring this up in a discussion of self-appointed experts and they get personally vicious to a point of bizarre. It’s a really strange case to discuss online in aviation forums. The people who question the official version, and who generally believe that this was a training accident gone wrong and covered up are all calm, levelheaded people. It’s the pro spontaneous-combustion set that gets really nasty. Odd.
Side note…and US Airways 1549 landed without loss of life…granted different situation, but sure messed up the impending narrative esp when they found the other engine.
Add this to the list of things Bongino didn’t do while at the FBI.
There is a lllonngg list of obfuscators ( politicians, military, investigators, media ) in dc that did not do the right thing …for 30 years.
[ but, instead of truth … someone’s public reputation was protected, and someone’s obeyed orders…
for a lllonngg time – again ]
p.s. it took about. 20 years for dc to provide an investigative ( obfuscated) report – and eye witness reports were methodically, largely disregarded in the report ).
…and another 10 years ( with a large turnover in employment in dc – a lot have retired over the course of time and moved on…) someone okays old information to released to the public….30 years…
Someone was running for president in ’96…
( and it is important that the media helps someone’s favorite ‘look good’ ) / sarc
( later on, someone found a way to alter, ‘fix’, the counting of ballots…
so then, ‘looking good’ was not as important for appealing to public opinion …
one can almost do it from a basement… / sarc )
Imho
Pass the SAVE America act for election integrity.
The House passed it over a year ago.
It’s the Senates’ turn…
Love thy neighbors
Thank you, Sundance, for posting this video.
Fuel leak.
Yeah, that’s the ticket!!
Well … here we go again:
I’ve been “preaching the truth” — at least as much as I or any of us know it — but the “official story” behind TWA 800 is COMPETE B.S, … and the Feds and the gov’t lied to us.
I have > 24K hours in the B-747 and the “official center fuel tank and pumps” explanation is just not true.
And I am aware of — let’s just say I have “some knowledge” or opinion of some of the details present and visible on the hangar floor in Calverton, post incident, etc., etc. … one of my friends was on the FAA.”Go Team”/investigation team and we talked about it in some length in Tokyo …
Captain, did you ever take ‘flight safety’ from Capt. Paul Cousineau? A friend and customer for fine guns.
God bless.
No … sorry, I don’t know the Gent …
The 180 degree concave dent in the fusilage that was hammered out to fit in with the other pieces seemed very damning to me. Why would that kind of thing be done in a reconstruction of the fusilage? That dent didn’t fit their chosen narrative! Something from outside the plane had entered the plane like a Missile shot from a submarine.
Hard to believe it’s been 30 years for TWA-800. Yikes. I could be wrong, but it seems when the FBI gets involved evidence disappears.
Remember the Las Vegas Mandalay Bay shootings where a guy was shooting into the crowd at an outdoor concert? FBI arrived on scene and confiscated all cell phones and security cameras…never to be seen again.
At the same time Attorney General Eric Holder was involved with “Fast and Furious.”..running guns to the drug cartels in Mexico. Some of those same guns were used to shoot innocent concert goers in Vegas.
It’s all too strange to believe….
Off topic. Breaking news:
A dead body has been found at the home of the husband of Congress woman Ayanna Presley.
She’s the “baldylocks” Congresswoman from Mass IIRC.
Let’s do OKC too.
Years ago a friend from a Tea Party next country over was looking for attendees to go hear a guest speaker, I went to be supportive, and turns out Chris Farrell was the speaker. He was fantastic, a nice but small crowd of folks in the VFW, he engaged and talked for hours w/us post his planned talk. We all had a great time. He works hard to find the truth!
Here nor there, yeah, this plane was brought down for a purpose and innocents were killed. I feel for the families waiting 30 years, I will be dead if they ever get around to exposing Butler PA.
Two Nassau County Police Officers in the vicinity of Jones Beach reported that they saw a missile strike the aircraft and it blew-up.
That was immediately after the aircraft blew-up.
After watching the video…and memories of the initial investigations, way back…
And all the super qualified witnesses, the two above, or the Navy officer mentioned, experienced pilots, engineers, the scientists etc…
Is kind of reminiscent of how pilots were treated if they filed a report related to UFO sightings while in the cockpit…they kept quiet, due to the potential of being ostracized or grounded.
I give these guys a lot of credit for doing what they are doing.
I recall watching a clip of this same visual description from an ANG fighter pilot veteran of Desert Storm.
Center tank my bum.
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Hell, the Captain of the ship that fired the missile said they often practiced on civilian aircraft, aiming and tracking ‘electronic’ missiles. He admitted to actually firing a real missile in testimony…….. and it went nowhere.
Huh?
Can you please post a link to that statment?
I am aware of both the Navy ship theory, and the terrorist theory.
Based on the video, I would lean towards the terrorist due to the rental boat info.
It would seem to be nearly impossible that all of the sailors on the ship could keep this under wraps for 30 years.
Did multiple online searches:
The Specific “Captain” Claim,
—a ship captain or crew member admitting to routine practice on civilian aircraft with “electronic missiles” and firing a real one—appears in online forums, comment sections, and conspiracy discussions (e.g., a 2017 comment on a Boston University article and recent posts on sites like The Conservative Treehouse).
bu.edu
Again, if you have something to dispute that, please post.
The Navy missile theory should also always include a citation of whether any NOTAMS were in effect for the area. I say terrorists.
Certainly the 280 credible witnesses and suspect fishing boat are convincing. Who has ever heard of a pleasure (fishing) boat being wiped clean of a single fingerprint?
Was it random or was it targeted? Who would a terrorist have wanted to be killed specifically? For a targeted downing, One would have to examine each passenger’s known connections and acquaintances as well as what might have been going on politically before the downing.
A random attack fits the MO of terrorist attacks we have seen since, in our own country as well as others.
In addition to the list of similar airline losses posted above, recall that this one was also not long after the abortive, 1993 terrorist bombing of the WTC. Meanwhile, the Clinton administration is urgently divesting our entire Cold War, national security apparatus and posture as a “peace dividend.”
I remember this “crash” and how many I knew who did not believe the “official” story, but their seeing of a projectile coming from the ground.
I’m still haunted by the Hopewell, PA crash and then the 9/11/01 “crash” in Shanksville, PA. as well as the “plane” that hit the Pentagon right where the auditor’s were sittting the day after Rumsfeld announced there were trillions(?) missing on the Pentagon balance sheet. A plane did not fly into the Pentagon – camera’s captured a missile that just “happened to be flying by”.
One thing I resent more than anything is when humans who question “what really happened” are expected to believe the ” official explanation, ” almost as if when you stop grieving the ones lost “you’ll get over it.”
I used to work and play softball with people on the Hopewell plane. The explanation for that one was the weight of boxes of records they were bringing back from the conference caused the weight and balance to go screwy. Oh sure. There are actual job/positions in the airlines re “weight and balance.”
This documentary was “good” for me to watch, if only for how it distracted me from the “Carney-ville” BS re the wildfires.
My God has not forsaken me but expects that I use discernment. Today was an overdose of doing so.
No recreation of the shanksville plane either. 8000 pounds of titanium in the engines.
The number 1 enemy of every American Patriot is… the US Government! The money controls everything. The elites are to blame.
the history of the clintons precedes them… interesting that the cia/fblie/saudis were used in the attack and cover up. much like opinko, and braindead biden…
One of Jack Cashill’s old documentaries…
Silenced: TWA Flight 800 & The Subversion of Justice
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lc3SbsW3ORCc
Or get Jack’s audiobook… TWA 800The Crash, the Cover-Up, and the Conspiracy
My neighbors died on that flight. Jay and Patty Anderson.
I always thought what “teally” happened was covered up.
Has anyone ever explained how and why the CIA became involved in developing an animated video of the breakup sequence?
Why was the CIA participating in the investigation of a domestic aviation incident in the first place? And if the incident was determined to be a tragic accident, then why did the CIA continue to participate in that investigation until its conclusion?
All of this is way outside the CIA’s responsibilities.
Clintons.
I may not be recalling accurately here, but I believe the excuse back then was that only the CIA had the software capable of creating such an animation.
Of course, I also recall many people calling that excuse BS.
You’d think the CIA could at least have made their video comport with the radar data.
They had access to Disney studios as they created DS.
Having read Jack’s book when it came out and having read comments by veterans who were in a position to know, and knowing the Clintons, I do believe it was a missile that brought the plane down.
I’m just shocked at how they managed to clamp down on every eyewitness. It was more than a few that saw what happened. But then, I believe there were one or two that went to jail or prosecution was attempted for trying to get at the truth. That put the fear of Big Government in anyone else thinking they might tell what they knew.
It certainly was a prelude to other cover-ups.
I can’t imagine them getting away with the same nonsense today with the number of home security cameras, ring doorbell cameras, government surveillance cameras, or just somebody filming another Tik-Tok dance video.
You don’t have to “imagine” it. Watch the preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson. Don’t miss the part where the judge directly asks the prosecution if they have video of the shooting. Prosecutor answers, “No.” Then watch all the MAGA influencers filming themselves, telling the world about the 100% conclusive evidence on video, shown in court, proving that Tyler Robinson is the killer.
Just thought I’d take a look….. passenger list on TWA 800……. the LA Times has it here.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-07-20-mn-25987-story.html
Okay Mike, I got curious, so I took a look at the passenger list. The saddest thing was how all these regular people from all over the nation, many from the same family, had to go through this nightmare together. The “lucky” ones, for want of a better word, were spared the seconds of unspeakable terror before their deaths, by being killed instantly. I know that’s what I’d want if given a choice. But, to those looking to find someone who might have been the “reason” for this tragedy, we’ll never know the truth. I believe it was an accident by someone on or under the ocean’s surface, and it was covered up by someone’ order from the top. I did see something out of left field on that list that interested me: The flight’s pilot was a Kevorkian!
It is a movie but I don’t know how many times I’ve watched “Fearless” with Jeff Bridges. Worth watching if like me, you have fear and dread about using a air travel. Or it could make itworse.
After a flight went down somewhere near Malaysia (I think) which has not yet been found or recovered that I know of, a coworker refused to fly anywhere for anything that was required for work.
Imagine this, if you will (Twilight Zon) , the US govmint permitted him to NOT FLY but drive to wherever he had to go.
Twilight Zone.
When the FAA and NTSB investigate aircraft accidents they are looking for answers to two questions. 1) They need to know what happened. 2) They need to know why it happened.
Determining exactly why something happened is crucial in making changes to insure that the scenario never happens again. In the case of a mechanical failure, such as a design flaw in a fuel tank, corrective measures are taken in the form of service bulletins and Airworthiness Directives. These instructions are aimed at the owners of similar aircraft advising and sometimes mandating corrective measures that need to be taken and how to go about performing the corrective actions. I don’t recall hearing anything about mandating all 747 owners being required to make fuel tank changes on their aircraft to prevent the possibility of a catastrophic explosion.
And speaking of explosions, has anyone ever heard of a can of kerosene suddenly exploding because of a single spark? I haven’t. Kerosene is flammable, but it is very stable. The jet fuel that power our airlines is basically kerosene that has a paper trail of strict quality control measures applied to it.
Not to diminish what happened with TWA 800 but a good part of the reason everyone was so skeptical about the investigation was that the 90’s were full of events that made us all wonder. Waco, Ruby Ridge, the countless suicides, Ron Brown’s death, and so on. That decade changed us all.
I’m bothered by the death of Vincent Foster to this day. The Clintons lied about everything. They lied even when the truth wasn’t a big deal. When Hillary blamed Benghazi on a video and then later “what does it even matter at this point?” It was like reliving the 90’s all over. Clinton was the luckiest president in US history. Great a decade as it was, he was a terrible person to have in the WH. The only good thing I can say is his political instincts were sharp enough to keep us out of another Vietnam, and he was smart enough to cooperate with Gingrich after getting his ass handed to him in the ‘94 mid-terms.
I remember this event and thought then something was fishy. Kudos to Farrell and all those who have kept their promise and continue to bring light to the downing of the aircraft. I hope Farrell is successful in his lawsuit.