The Clinton’s

Put simply one cannot trust anything the feds say.

I remember clearly when this happened. Katie Couric was interviewing the husband and father of three victims, his wife and two daughters were taking a trip to Paris together. The girls were only 10 or 11 years old and they were on the flight.

“The girls can swim” he said. He mentioned their names and said “I won’t stop looking for you.” I have never forgotten that man’s words and his hope against hope that they would be found.

I was transiting NYC via JFK that day and it was very surreal

That tree has been baring rotten fruit since j.edger Hoover.
Time to chop it down.

When over 22.000 people visually seen multiple objects going from sea level up to the plane and then being told by the Clowns In Action it was fuel burning up to the plane never sat well.
When a plane has never before or since had “Wiring short out in the fuel tanks” that was another strike against their official narrative.
Someone was on that plane that had to be removed no matter how many innocent lives were taken.
The Clowns In Action did the garbage shoved down our throats.

Now do 9/11

I remember the constant discrediting of a bomb or missile strike by the authorities. Something just didn’t add up.

Then they discovered traces of nitroglycerin and other chemicals which fueled the bomb theory but later on the authorities said this came from glue. Now I’m no scientist but I wasn’t born yesterday either.

I also know that while kerosene is considered flammable it doesn’t really burn all that well.

Nothing added up in my opinion .

“the focus of the ¹FBI in taking control of the investigation which never made sense.”

I distinctly remember where I was that weekend, because I was out of town and and due to circumstances beyond my control, I had to spend the night in house with two heavy smokers in a house that also smelled from 4 large dogs.

I thought that was really suspect when the FBI took over the investigation show.

Judicial Watch is a great organization!

30 years ago, I was an avid listener to the Art Bell program (Coast to Coast AM) and the subject of TWA flight 800 was hashed over time and time again by Mr. Bell and Mr. Cashill. None of it made any sense, especially when there were so many eyewitness accounts of missiles streaking toward the jet. I’ve been following this topic closely ever since!

Judicial Watch is a gem!

Monday, July 28, 2014USS Seawolf missile shot down TWA 800 – Wane Madsen Report

USS Seawolf missile shot down TWA 800

According to a senior member of the staff of then-Secretary of the Navy John Dalton, the test firing of a new generation Navy missile from the submarine USS Seawolf accidentally struck TWA flight 800 en route from New York to Paris on July 17, 1996. According to the former Navy official, the missile test was so important for the Clinton administration, it was being shown live on a Navy closed-circuit television feed at the White House. The Seawolf’s missile was to have struck a drone reportedly being towed by a Navy P-3 Orion maritime surveillance aircraft. However, to the horror of the Navy personnel involved with the test and senior White House staff gathered to witness the missile’s successful launching, it veered off course and intercepted the TWA 800 Boeing 747, killing the 230 passengers and crew on board the aircraft.

ABC News Paris correspondent and former John F. Kennedy Press Secretary and U.S. Senator Pierre Salinger reported that a U.S. Navy missile, according to his sources, had downed TWA 800. A vicious smear campaign was launched against Salinger and he was eventually fired by ABC. This editor subsequently spoke at length with Salinger about both TWA 800 and Pan Am 103. We agreed that the investigations of both involved U.S. government cover-ups.

The Seawolf, which had recently completed sea trials but had not yet been fully commissioned into service, was participating in a major Navy exercise off Long Island in exercise area W-105. The exercise was dubbed GLOBAL YANKEE ’96. Ironically, the Seawolf was to be commissioned in Groton, Connecticut on July 17, 1997, the anniversary of the shooting down of TWA 800, but the Navy, sensitive to the date, altered the commissioning to July 19, two days later. Margaret Dalton, the wife of Navy Secretary John Dalton, carried out the submarine’s “christening” in Groton.

The FBI initially believed that terrorism was the cause of the crash of TWA 800 and it ran a criminal investigation parallel to that of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). However, as the need to cover-up the missile angle became paramount, the FBI changed modes and began harassing witnesses who clearly saw a bright streak or arc in the sky moments before the massive explosion tore apart the Boeing 747 sending bodies and debris into the Atlantic Ocean. Two Air National Guard Blackhawk helicopter pilots saw an orange-red streak prior to the fireball while conducting helicopter training approaches at nearby Gabreski Field.

But the missile theory never could be put to rest. Senator Alphonse d’Amato (R-NY) said he believed a missile struck TWA 800, as did a number of individuals with military and flight experience. D’Amato served on the President’s Commission on Aviation Security and Terrorism (PCAST), which was set up in September 1989 to make aviation security recommendations after the bombing of Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. In 1993, D’Amato opposed funding any more Seawolfsubmarines, however, as they were built by the Groton, Connecticut-based Electric Boat Division of General Dynamics, the two Connecticut senators, Joseph Lieberman and Christopher Dodd, were strong proponents of the submarines the Navy said they did not even need in the post-Cold War era.

The unfolding events surrounding the Seawolf’s missile impact on TWA 800 was witnessed in real-time in the White House Situation Room by startled officials who were viewing what was suppose have been a successful intercept of a drone. However, according to our Secretary of the Navy senior staff source, as the impact of what transpired dawned on White House officials, the director of the White House Situation Room, Vice Admiral Kevin Cosgriff, immediately ordered the mobilization of Navy and other military assets to cover up the Navy’s role in the disaster. As the National Security Council’s director of Systems and Planning, Cosgriff was partly responsible for obtaining the White House Situation Room to show-off the Navy’s latest missile capabilities to gathered civilian and military officials.

The crew of the P-3 that was towing the drone was immediately transferred to new assignments. The P-3’s number 3 engine showed signs of damage from the explosion of TWA 800 and maintenance records on the engine were suppressed by the Navy. Three other submarines participating in GLOBAL YANKEE ’96 were also ordered out of the area. They were the USS Albuquerque, the USS Augusta, and the USS Trepang. The FBI accounted for all missiles aboard the three submarines but not those on board the Seawolf, which was not yet officially commissioned into service and which had just completed it sea trials a little over a week earlier.

Our source confirmed that US Navy SEAL team members were dispatched to recover TWA 800 wreckage with the sole intent being the alteration of the debris to fit the story of a defective fuel tank explosion. Two U.S. Navy salvage ships, the USS Grasp and USS Grapple, were sent to Long Island waters to recover TWA wreckage.

In 2000, conservative pundit Reed Irvine confirmed what Salinger had reported four years earlier. Irvine reported that he recorded an interview with a Navy petty officer who was on the deck of a submarine near where TWA 800 was hit by the missile. The petty officer told Irvine that he was “underneath TWA 800 when he saw a missile hit it and the 747 explode overhead.”

Irvine also wrote, “There are hundreds of Navy and Coast Guard personnel, as well as some FBI, CIA, FAA, NTSB and former White House employees who know that the real cause of the crash of TWA 800 was papered over with a tissue of lies. Two of them, James Kallstrom and George Stephanopoulos, have made statements that indicate an official cover-up. Stephanopoulos, a Clinton adviser who is now an ABC News correspondent, mentioned on the air a secret meeting in the White House situation room ‘in the aftermath of the TWA 800 bombing.’ Kallstrom, who headed the FBI’s TWA 800 investigation, told me – and I have this on tape – that three radar targets close to the crash site were Navy vessels on a classified maneuver. We know they were submarines because the radar tracks disappeared when TWA 800 crashed.”

One of the submarine’s that was ordered to immediately leave the area of the TWA crash was the Seawolf. The Seawolf was testing a missile that could be fired on an enemy aircraft while the submarine was fully submerged. The Navy ordered all radar data of the incident seized. The Navy and other U.S. agencies subsequently altered data tapes to be consistent with the NTSB’s contrived conclusion that TWA 800 was brought down by a spontaneous explosion in the center wing fuel tank. Radar tapes showing the P-3 at 20,000 feet and a towed drone at 17,600 feet at about a mile behind the P-3 were erased.

The Seawolf’s Cooperative Engagement Capability, which linked its weapon systems with the Aegis radar systems installed on other Navy ships participating in the exercise, also saw its data purged. Once the subsurface missile was launched, the Seawolf’s combat software no longer had control over the missile.

The Navy’s Aegis training platform, the Combat System Engineering Development Site (CSEDS), located in the middle of a cornfield in Moorestown, New Jersey, off of the New Jersey Turnpike, which had a AEGIS SPY-1 radar window off Long Island, also saw its data tapes confiscated as did the Federal Aviation Administration control center in Islip, Long Island and the FAA technical center in Atlantic City, New Jersey. A Lockheed-Martin engineer who worked at CSEDS in Moorestown said the SPY-1 radar was reported to be “down for maintenance” during the exercise, an exercise in which it was to have been a participant.

The NTSB falsified data in their cover-up, billed as an investigation. The Flight Data Recorder’s indication that something struck the Boeing 747 was brushed aside.
Hank Hughes, a former senior NTSB accident investigator, revealed in 2013 that evidence that a “high-velocity debris exiting the right side of the aircraft.” Hughes said evidence was tampered with. Other NTSB investigators joined Hughes in criticizing the NTSB’s “accident” report. Testing done by the Brookhaven and Sandia National Laboratories could yield no evidence that TWA 800 was brought down as the result of a mechanical failure.

Researchers were able to piece together the following timeline of events from open source information:
20:31:11 Intact and climbing 747 approaches 13,800 feet.
20:31:12 U.S. Navy subsurface-launched missile impacts TWA 800 at 13,800 feet. Beginning of decapitation process.
20:31:47 Massive fireball explodes in the falling wreckage at 7500 feet.
20:31:43 Wreckage begins hitting the water’s surface.
20:31:55-20:31:57 splashdown of the massive fireball flames.

A number of observers witnessed a subsurface wake after the explosion of TWA 800. The Seawolf, if ordered out of the area at maximum speed, is capable of doing over 35 knots submerged. At such a speed, a visible surface wake is very possible. The pilot of a Cessna reported seeing a distinct subsurface wake in addition to a passenger on board US Air flight 277.

The Navy continues to classify a “design deficiency” discovered during theSeawolf’s Weapons Systems Accuracy Trials (WSAT) conducted in 1998. In addition, the November 1999 Operational Assessment report cited six critical operational issues as high risk for Seawolf. The second issue on the Navy’s list was the submarine’s “weapon launch, handling, and stowage.”

President and Mrs. Clinton were attending a Democratic National Committee function at the Sheraton Washington Hotel, just a few blocks from the White House, as the Seawolf’s missile impacted with TWA 800. Rather than deal with the event in the White House Situation Room, the president and the first lady decided to retire to the private quarters of the White House and not issue any immediate comment on the tragedy. Hillary Clinton has all but announced her desire to run for president in 2016. The families of those who lost loved ones on TWA 800 may not be all that enthused about Mrs. Clinton’s ever-expanding diary of secrets.

Posted by Macu at 7/28/2014 08:07:00 PM http://milfuegos.blogspot.com/2014/07/uss-seawolf-missile-shot-down-twa-800.html

Funny thing that Fuel Tank Explosion has Never been Recreated by anyone. That is actually astonishing if you know anything about Aircraft. And I do.

And how about all the other flights that took of from the East and West coast and crashed?
TWA 800 – July 17, 1996 – 12 minutes after takeoff from JFK – exploded over Atlantic Ocean – (electrical short igniting fuel vapors resulting in explosion. Plane ascended after the nose being blown off…)
Swissair 111 – September 2, 1998 – 53 minutes after takeoff from JFK- crashed into Atlantic Ocean – (entertainment system caught fire)
Egypt Air 990 – October 31, 1999 – 33 minutes after takeoff from JFK – crashed into Atlantic Ocean (pilot ‘suicidal’ and intentionally crashed the plane)
Alaska Airlines 261 – January 31, 2000 – crashed into Pacific Ocean – (Bolt broke in horizontal stabilizer. They somenow found it at the bottom of the ocean)
9-11- September 11, 2001 – Four planes hijacked. They said “oh, we never imagined people would use planes like that. Oops, sorry 2,997 American citizens who were killed, needlessly. Sorry good, hard-working American people who were forced to jump to their deaths from the top of the World Trade Center.” They had all kinds of warnings and already had been tracking many of the hijackers. They had ample opportunity to intervene, investigate and roll up the operation. They even had ample opportunity to shoot down the planes before they hit the towers, but they didn’t.

I worked in air freight forwarding during this time. They suddenly started telling us to check packages for wires, powder, etc, and to get IDs and separate shipments by ‘known’ and ‘unknown’ shippers. Something was going on. My theory is some entity was taking out passenger planes to push the US into a war. Clinton kept covering it up. Nine months after Bush is elected, 9-11 happens. Try to explain away that one as an ‘accident’. They got what they wanted. When will this ever be investigated?

I know that’s an old picture, but does anyone know if that fuselage is still patched together in a warehouse somewhere or did they eventually take it all apart again?

The FIB, Covering Up for the Deep State, USSA for a long time. A Long List.

Jack Cashill has been steadfast in covering this tragedy. I lived and worked not far from the site. Shortly after the plane went down I spoke with a couple that were on the beach that day. They were certain something came from the horizon. The fuel tank story makes no sense. As many have noted, planes would have been falling out of the sky if this were possible.

As those on this site know full well, we are long past the point where we can give much credibility to what our government, much less the media, tells us.

Netflix had a TWA 800 documentary, now pulled, which i found very interesting. The now retired NTSB investigators for flight 800 give their opinions. You can find the documentary on youtube. worth the watch

I remember that. Nobody I know believed it. I certainly didn’t.

Wonder who, exactly, was on that flight?

It was The Freeest and Fairest, most safe and secure, Fuel leak ever.

I remember Pierre Salinger, JFK/s former press secretary, being interviewed saying he had photographic evidence of a rocket being fired at TWA 800, and showed the pictures. When asked where he got them, he replied off the internet. He was immediately dismissed as a kooky conspiracy theorist.
I wonder where those pictures are today and who it was that posted them.

The Clinton FBI under Janet Reno were nothing but murderous lying leftist thugs. The US dodged a fatal bullet when President Trump won. The people who conspired behind Covid, the vaxx and election fraud. MUST be held accountable!

I watched the 747 pilot Al Frank do an in depth about this. He is a flying Sundance. Horrific, like so many other things that do not pass the smell test.

Tom Stalcup’s documentary on this is really good. As is Cashill’s book. You simply cannot read through all the evidence and eyewitness accounts, and all the absurdities in the government’s story (eg a powerless, noseless 747 climbing nearly half a mile into the air with no thrust and no aerodynamic effciency) and think this was a random centerline fuel tank that exploded because warm fuel vapors were ignited by wiring bundles that don’t carry anywhere near the voltage to actually ignite jet A.

Bring this up in a discussion of self-appointed experts and they get personally vicious to a point of bizarre. It’s a really strange case to discuss online in aviation forums. The people who question the official version, and who generally believe that this was a training accident gone wrong and covered up are all calm, levelheaded people. It’s the pro spontaneous-combustion set that gets really nasty. Odd.

Add this to the list of things Bongino didn’t do while at the FBI.

Thank you, Sundance, for posting this video.

Fuel leak.
Yeah, that’s the ticket!!

Well … here we go again:

I’ve been “preaching the truth” — at least as much as I or any of us know it — but the “official story” behind TWA 800 is COMPETE B.S, … and the Feds and the gov’t lied to us.

I have > 24K hours in the B-747 and the “official center fuel tank and pumps” explanation is just not true.

And I am aware of — let’s just say I have “some knowledge” or opinion of some of the details present and visible on the hangar floor in Calverton, post incident, etc., etc. … one of my friends was on the FAA.”Go Team”/investigation team and we talked about it in some length in Tokyo …

Hard to believe it’s been 30 years for TWA-800. Yikes. I could be wrong, but it seems when the FBI gets involved evidence disappears.

Remember the Las Vegas Mandalay Bay shootings where a guy was shooting into the crowd at an outdoor concert? FBI arrived on scene and confiscated all cell phones and security cameras…never to be seen again.

At the same time Attorney General Eric Holder was involved with “Fast and Furious.”..running guns to the drug cartels in Mexico. Some of those same guns were used to shoot innocent concert goers in Vegas.

It’s all too strange to believe….

Off topic. Breaking news:

A dead body has been found at the home of the husband of Congress woman Ayanna Presley.

Let’s do OKC too.

Years ago a friend from a Tea Party next country over was looking for attendees to go hear a guest speaker, I went to be supportive, and turns out Chris Farrell was the speaker. He was fantastic, a nice but small crowd of folks in the VFW, he engaged and talked for hours w/us post his planned talk. We all had a great time. He works hard to find the truth!

Here nor there, yeah, this plane was brought down for a purpose and innocents were killed. I feel for the families waiting 30 years, I will be dead if they ever get around to exposing Butler PA.

Two Nassau County Police Officers in the vicinity of Jones Beach reported that they saw a missile strike the aircraft and it blew-up.

That was immediately after the aircraft blew-up.

Center tank my bum.

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Hell, the Captain of the ship that fired the missile said they often practiced on civilian aircraft, aiming and tracking ‘electronic’ missiles. He admitted to actually firing a real missile in testimony…….. and it went nowhere.

Certainly the 280 credible witnesses and suspect fishing boat are convincing. Who has ever heard of a pleasure (fishing) boat being wiped clean of a single fingerprint?

Was it random or was it targeted? Who would a terrorist have wanted to be killed specifically? For a targeted downing, One would have to examine each passenger’s known connections and acquaintances as well as what might have been going on politically before the downing.

A random attack fits the MO of terrorist attacks we have seen since, in our own country as well as others.

I remember this “crash” and how many I knew who did not believe the “official” story, but their seeing of a projectile coming from the ground.

I’m still haunted by the Hopewell, PA crash and then the 9/11/01 “crash” in Shanksville, PA. as well as the “plane” that hit the Pentagon right where the auditor’s were sittting the day after Rumsfeld announced there were trillions(?) missing on the Pentagon balance sheet. A plane did not fly into the Pentagon – camera’s captured a missile that just “happened to be flying by”.

One thing I resent more than anything is when humans who question “what really happened” are expected to believe the ” official explanation, ” almost as if when you stop grieving the ones lost “you’ll get over it.”

I used to work and play softball with people on the Hopewell plane. The explanation for that one was the weight of boxes of records they were bringing back from the conference caused the weight and balance to go screwy. Oh sure. There are actual job/positions in the airlines re “weight and balance.”

This documentary was “good” for me to watch, if only for how it distracted me from the “Carney-ville” BS re the wildfires.

My God has not forsaken me but expects that I use discernment. Today was an overdose of doing so.

The number 1 enemy of every American Patriot is… the US Government! The money controls everything. The elites are to blame.

the history of the clintons precedes them… interesting that the cia/fblie/saudis were used in the attack and cover up. much like opinko, and braindead biden…

One of Jack Cashill’s old documentaries…
Silenced: TWA Flight 800 & The Subversion of Justice

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lc3SbsW3ORCc

Or get Jack’s audiobook… TWA 800The Crash, the Cover-Up, and the Conspiracy

My neighbors died on that flight. Jay and Patty Anderson.

Has anyone ever explained how and why the CIA became involved in developing an animated video of the breakup sequence?

Why was the CIA participating in the investigation of a domestic aviation incident in the first place? And if the incident was determined to be a tragic accident, then why did the CIA continue to participate in that investigation until its conclusion?

All of this is way outside the CIA’s responsibilities.

Having read Jack’s book when it came out and having read comments by veterans who were in a position to know, and knowing the Clintons, I do believe it was a missile that brought the plane down.

I’m just shocked at how they managed to clamp down on every eyewitness. It was more than a few that saw what happened. But then, I believe there were one or two that went to jail or prosecution was attempted for trying to get at the truth. That put the fear of Big Government in anyone else thinking they might tell what they knew.

It certainly was a prelude to other cover-ups.

I can’t imagine them getting away with the same nonsense today with the number of home security cameras, ring doorbell cameras, government surveillance cameras, or just somebody filming another Tik-Tok dance video.

Just thought I’d take a look….. passenger list on TWA 800……. the LA Times has it here.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-07-20-mn-25987-story.html

It is a movie but I don’t know how many times I’ve watched “Fearless” with Jeff Bridges. Worth watching if like me, you have fear and dread about using a air travel. Or it could make itworse.

After a flight went down somewhere near Malaysia (I think) which has not yet been found or recovered that I know of, a coworker refused to fly anywhere for anything that was required for work.

Imagine this, if you will (Twilight Zon) , the US govmint permitted him to NOT FLY but drive to wherever he had to go.

When the FAA and NTSB investigate aircraft accidents they are looking for answers to two questions. 1) They need to know what happened. 2) They need to know why it happened.

Determining exactly why something happened is crucial in making changes to insure that the scenario never happens again. In the case of a mechanical failure, such as a design flaw in a fuel tank, corrective measures are taken in the form of service bulletins and Airworthiness Directives. These instructions are aimed at the owners of similar aircraft advising and sometimes mandating corrective measures that need to be taken and how to go about performing the corrective actions. I don’t recall hearing anything about mandating all 747 owners being required to make fuel tank changes on their aircraft to prevent the possibility of a catastrophic explosion.

And speaking of explosions, has anyone ever heard of a can of kerosene suddenly exploding because of a single spark? I haven’t. Kerosene is flammable, but it is very stable. The jet fuel that power our airlines is basically kerosene that has a paper trail of strict quality control measures applied to it.

Not to diminish what happened with TWA 800 but a good part of the reason everyone was so skeptical about the investigation was that the 90’s were full of events that made us all wonder. Waco, Ruby Ridge, the countless suicides, Ron Brown’s death, and so on. That decade changed us all.