I find this statement by Andrew Wilson to be generally accurate: “The Epstein files create so much emotional charge that having rational discourse about them is basically impossible. People want arrests but don’t know who they want arrested. They want justice but don’t know who they want justice for. Totally Incoherent outrage. Mob panic.”
A mass formation psychosis has fallen upon the Epstein matters and clouded the judgement of reasonable people.
It’s the “reasonable people” facet that became the challenge that Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna needed to control.
Led by financing from the anti-Trump administrative state allies, they created a controversy. Thomas Massie needed to create a political crisis he could manufacture, exploit and manage. Something his political paymasters could benefit from and simultaneously use as a pivot issue maximize his income capacity. His wife is dead; this is the payday opportunity to relaunch his mid-life masculinity and gain Instagram celebrity status to align with his physical makeover.
Together with Ro Khanna, Massie thirsts for the viral dopamine hit of “fighting the deep state.” They mounted a full-court press: public letters, hearing grandstanding, coordinated X and TikTok outrage campaigns, the whole performative circus. Algorithmically boosted appearances via social media allies, then promoted by content creators and influencers who adhere to the financial control dials within the algorithm.
Visibility looks organic, but it’s not. The consuming public, the mob, are mice with their head in a vice, gaze affixed to the content of a screen with images on a repeat pattern they do not control. Swipe – swipe, there it is again. Why, this must be trending or something.
“Release EVERYTHING immediately!” the mob shrieked. Implying that any delay, any careful review, was proof of a cover-up protecting whichever boogeyman the algorithmic boosters hated that week. Trump, Clinton, Gates, Trump, Musk, Bannon, Trump, Lutnick, take your pick. Psychologically, the screenplay is textbook narcissistic projection fused with political opportunism.
Institutional caution must be defined as corrupt, because institutional credibility has been shattered. Like classic narcissists they weaponized a crisis they created because their motives are impure: sway, clout, money – influence and affluence – and the delicious thrill of wielding moral superiority over faceless bureaucrats. Even Ted Cruz and Casey DeSantis blush at the scale they never attempted.
Yes, they whipped the social media mob into a frothing “transparency or treason” frenzy, leaving the DOJ with two choices: take the time to do it right and be accused of obstruction, or just dump it all and tell Massie to FU.
Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche just gave Thomas Massie the middle finger.
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Grey4626 – “Enjoy the flood. – Real disclosures about actual powerful figures get drowned in algorithmic noise.
Victims’ advocates watch in horror as legitimate evidence is contaminated by deliberate chaos. This isn’t transparency. This is sabotage disguised as principle.
Massie and Khanna didn’t expose the guilty; they deliberately violated established privacy protections, poisoned the evidentiary well, and handed disinformation merchants a gift-wrapped distraction.
They own every bit of this circus…the confusion, the defamation of the innocent, the dilution of actual accountability. You demanded unfiltered truth without the patience or intelligence to handle it.
Congratulations.
You got exactly what you begged for”
Like a classic projection. Massie made it on the list. How many times did he travelled on Lolita Express? It is time to release all Massie’s correspondence with pedo epstein.
Alinsky says to accuse “the enemy”–in this case, the American people–of the crimes the deep state Democrats and RINOs commit every day, in every way.
Hillary was/is a disciple of Alinsky and faithful practitioner of Arkancide.
Too bad she is now hanging out with Satan.
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I don’t see Rush Limbaugh name.
I still miss Rush!
Every day at 10 AM.
Rush was on from Noon to 3pm where I live.
Wasn’t expecting to see him, but surprised not to see John Roberts…
I am disappointed and offended that my name is not on the list. Seems like everybody else is there.
There is a voice actor named John Roberts. That John Roberts co-stars in Bob’s Burgers on FOX.
He flew incognito.
truth goes thru three phases. first, it’s ignored. then it is violently opposed. lastly it is accepted as self evident. rush limbaugh. heard this while running caterpillar excavator with a radio. 20 plus year education.
An intrepid journalist should ask Ro Khana and Massie why are they on the list. If they say they are innocent, journalists should demand for proofs and unredact their correspondences.
You want it, you got it.
Now let rational cooler heads prevail.
Every person mentioned can sort through the muck and provide context.
If questions arise let them be asked and answered.
The four innocent men mentioned on the House floor by Massie and Khanna were able to clear themselves of the mud being slung by having their innocuous stories of their photos being randomly used as part of an identification process for victims, who no doubt did not point to any of them as perpetrators.
“their photos being randomly used as part of an identification process for victims”.
On that thought, what gives anyone in the IC to randomly pull a passport photo and use it for such purposes. That should scare the h3ll out of any liberty loving person.
What if you are identified as the perp?
That’s how photo line ups are usually done. (From what I’ve read)
Does that make it right?
The grand jury secrecy rules are maintained to protect such people. Massie and Khanna don’t seem to grasp that.
Did not know that.
How awesome that Congressman Dan Goldman who pulled the “stand up Epstein survivors and shame Pam Bondi” stunt the other day is officially a name in the Epstein files. He should be reminded of this wherever he goes.
Khanna stated that he and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) had viewed unredacted files at the DOJ and discovered the redactions were unjustified, prompting them to demand the names be revealed. He framed the act as a bold move toward accountability, asserting that the public had a right to know who visited Epstein’s island or engaged in business with him after his conviction.
Chest-pounding speech of Ro Khanna on the House floor in which he took credit for outing six “wealthy, powerful men” who he suggested were actively shielded by the DOJ from public exposure. After the DOJ unredacted the names at his request, he read them on the floor. It turns out that four have nothing to do with Epstein.
DOJ and legal experts later challenged Khanna’s claims. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche stated that four of the six men were random individuals used in an FBI photo lineup and had no connection to Epstein’s criminal activities. Only Wexner and Bin Sulayem were found in other documents, with Wexner mentioned nearly 200 times and Bin Sulayem over 4,700 times. Despite this, Khanna maintained that the DOJ failed to provide context for the redactions and blamed the department for creating confusion.
Despite the backlash, Khanna maintained that the DOJ failed to provide context for the redactions and called for a special master to oversee future disclosures.
His remarks were protected under the Speech and Debate Clause, which grants members of Congress immunity from defamation lawsuits for statements made on the House floor.
The whole demand for release was to create confusion, endless shiny quarters, and tv talking points. The chain of custody was destroyed a long time ago.
where’s that Ro Khanna from?
he don’t look very American
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ro_Khanna
This is where you can look up whoever you are wanting to find their assets worth.
His assets 2017
https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/ro-khanna/assets?
It’s time to overhaul that “clause.” This is neither “speech” nor “debate.” Four people chosen at random to fill out a police lineup have been baselessly and recklessly accused of extremely severe crimes. The Constitution does not protect that!
“His remarks were protected under the Speech and Debate Clause, which grants members of Congress immunity from defamation lawsuits for statements made on the House floor.”
That’s fine if they are okay lying about each other. But is a breach of the constitution if civilians are lied about.
They are not immune for committing felonies. Violating grand jury secrecy to this extent carries punishments in the order of punishment for felonies. If it was up to me, I would make out a criminal referral and see if prosecution is in order. No one told Khanna to call those men pedos. He volunteered.
With all those scumbag dems on the list it is no wonder Epstien was so bad.
Exactly. Notice that the liar Ted Lieu who accused Trump of being a pedophile among other crimes has his name in the list. Since he made stuff up and called for Bondi to resign last week in hearing, because she lied, I’m going to make up something for him.
Because Ted lieu’s name appears in the Epstein files, I am going to lie about his Chinese heritage being tied to communist party. His family must be responsible for persecution of the Uyghurs and he was also driving the tank that ran over the protesters in Tiananmen square.. He should resign because he is also obviously an Opium addict because he has no normal brain function and isn’t that what all Chinese do?
woman’s face looks like it’s pasted on there
amirite or amirite?
Is Ed Buck feeling him up? And what is with the bow ties?
A rainbow-type celebration?
Janice Joplin??? Epstein wasn’t even born yet! I DO remember a pic I saw of Chuck U Schumer, shirtless, with a little boy. So who knows now. I DIDNT see my name or any of my friends tho. lol!! Let the feeding frenzy begin!
I was starting to wonder if I was on it.
LOL..!! I was thinking the same thing, and then I saw Marylyn Monroe…so where’s John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Nancy and Frank Sinatra, and the rest of the crew and of course WHOOPIE..!! I wonder when the AI version will rear it’s ugly head…
Jeff was a teenager when Janis died.
Thanks!
If it’s all public personae MENTIONED anywhere in the files, then maybe it was some surveilled people’s text or email discussion ABOUT that person?
That would explain Joplin and Monroe.
It also definitely points out the dangers of the surveillance state, as sundance always wisely reminds us.
“People want arrests but don’t know who they want arrested. They want justice but don’t know who they want justice for. Totally Incoherent outrage. Mob panic.”
This is exactly what Deep State wanted.
It’s obvious even to the least astute the government is hiding the truth from the American people in the name of “National Security”.
Even the gullible masses would care enough to tear down the entrenched and corrupt powers that hold our country hostage if the truth was revealed.
That truth is that our government actively sponsored pedophilia, rape of children and women, human trafficking for the express purpose of using the captured video and audio as blackmail and extortion.
This is the reason the rich and powerful were the targets.
It has been shown in the files that Epstein was employed as a “financial bounty hunter.” Nice code word for “Government sponsored blackmailer”.
Pretty convenient they are still hiding names under the guise of “ongoing investigations”.
At this point it’s obvious they’re only going to release the bare minimum and hide the rest.
What I don’t like is them pissing on us and telling us it’s raining.
But then again, how could we expect anything different from government the last 60 years?
Go back 100 years and the same filth existed.
“captured video and audio”
Where is this? I remember the FBI taking all this from the island. This is far more important than random names.
Circa 1897 – Nikola Tesla used to hang out in the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, which was then located where the Empire State Building now stands. For someone to be admitted as a member of the “Waldorf Crowd” was a patent of success. The splendid lounges and dining rooms served as showcases in which to observe the preening of the winners as well as the dismay of the losers. Fear was often a palpable presence.
According to the irreverent [Mark] Twain, the gospel as preached by the robber barons during this galloping phase of the industrial revolution was, “Get money. Get it quickly. Get it in abundance. Get it dishonestly, if you can, honestly, if you must.” (Tesla – Man Out Of Time by Margaret Cheney 1973)
This is where it all started…
I agree with you on many points, but I’m not sure I would call millions of pages “the bare minimum.”
I also get tired of the criticism of the administration that finally does something. It may not be everything you want when you want it, but Khanna and Massie had the same gripe.
Look where that got them. Looking like idiots.
There are other important events going on now that deserve a spotlight, but this and Nancy Guthries’ kidnapping are sucking up all the air.
What Epstein and his ilk did and do is pure evil. I’m tired of all the pointless talking, investigations and virtue signalling by politicians like MTG, Massie and Khanna. I want consequences for this evil. Can Massie, MTG and Khanna, this bipartisan cackle group, deliver on that??
By the way, I know who I want arrested and prosecuted. I know who I want justice for.
Massie is a self-centered idiot, but Bondi made all this mess come front and center when she exclaimed that she had the Epstein file on her desk.
What in the wide, wide world of sports did she do that for? Acting like I’m a boss girl in charge? Say little and do a lot. Instead she says a lot and does little.
bait?
Epstein was a CIA operative running a honey pot trap. Now that they have eliminated him the same folks who ran Jeff are fueling the non-stop outrage machine first over not releasing the “files” and then releasing the “files” too slow, then not redacted enough, then too redacted. Anything to keep the nitwit drive by media screaming about something and the useful idiots employed. Distraction. Distraction. Distraction. Talk about wag the dog….
This is why the deep state intelligence deros must be gutted
“and furthermore, the derp state must be destroyed”–by a vanished Treeper ‘Maquis’. A number one MAGA man here.
I guess no one knows what happened to hm or to Dutchman?
congress is just one big honeypot wagon.
There’s little evidence suggesting he’s cia, there’s proof showing he’s Mossad. Get it right.
Meh, same difference at this point.
I’m going to post this again, because I firmly believe it stands on its own.
You can “wonder” ALL YOU WANT. What you should not do is be willing to burn down the houses of the innocent-til-proven-guilty in order to get inside the palace.
Your willingness to do so marks you as unethical, and that’s putting it nicely. I could say more about people like you, but I’ll hold my tongue.
Trump is bleeding support over this, and you can blather on all you want about machinations from this or that group, but ultimately the responsibility for this is all on him. He set the stage for this during the 2024 campaign, and he is reaping the rewards for his failure to act.
How/why is he bleeding support?
Act what?
Tell us please with your vast knowledge of the universe what he could do?
You can always email the white house website and give him some pointers.
Nobody cares. Everyone knows no one will be prosecuted, and no one expected that anyone would. Its just more stories of the rich and famous. Trump’s approval rating from those who voted for him is sky high- even CNN admits as much. Epstein is not in anyone’s present or future- why should they care?
Uhhh… No.
Pope John Paul II is on the list. I wish they would just make a deal with Maxwell so we can hear some truth.
You would believe her?
So is Thomas Monson
Can you imagine how many more people Epstein came into contact with or mentioned their names in some form or fashion in his adult life, all of those listed names have been talked about on the internet for as long as the net has been around.
Epstein was an opportunist that used blackmail and sold that info to the Intelligent Community to make money and sell that info to the highest bidder. He got Andrew Windsor/Billy Clinton but with Billy it was not that hard to do!
One thing they teach you at basic training is about Rumors and Propaganda, its a fair size book. How to spot it when you see it. All of this is based on rumors propaganda and gossip. That sounds like a neighbor of mine.
‘About the Windsor lad’…he did not get the nickname “Randy Andy” out of the blue. He earned it.
Not once did PDJT say give the FBI and DOJ time to sort out the real criminals. All he ever said is we should forget about it because some innocent people might be hurt. What about the guilty people? What was the plan for them? PDJT says “Forgetaboutit.” Meanwhile MAGA struggles to believe in our Justice system; “Surely a system that made up charges against DTJ and associates can still punish guilty elites! “Surely.” Sundance says it all a mess now and Massie was just carrying water for a donor. He’s right. It’s all a mess but I don’t believe PDJT ever intended to allow the FBI or DOJ to prosecute the child molesters, murderers, and extortionists.
Or, Trump, the master of the stage, is getting everyone frothing angry about these files with his deflections so that when the time comes to arrest people, everyone will want it (or at least said out loud that they did want it before they knew who was to be arrested – i.e. Democrats).
That being said, arresting lower class people is done routinely (just watch COPS), but arresting an Elite is never done.
And, THAT is the problem.
It insults the intelligence to believe that there isn’t enough evidence to even go and get a search warrant to begin building just ONE stinking case? Really?! As senile old Joe used to say, “Come on man!”
The problem with black holes is they vacuum everything around in, the guilty and the innocent. Avoid black holes and their orbits.
Main stream and politicians just parade these Epstein victims” to shame Republicans as opposed to having the victims actually name the pedophiles. I know they have some kind of NDA that they supposedly keeps them from naming in public but surely there is a way around that?
There are no NDAs. Victims have stated that they have been intimidated and threatened into silence. Even if they came up with a list, what evidence would they be able to provide, other than just their word. The rich and powerful abusers would easily shut them down, countersue, or even make them disappear.
The doj is obviously unable and unwilling to protect them.
Many of the victims have committed crimes themselves, and they know that their testimony is tainted.
This is the reason. They intentionally had the victims recruit others to silence them. Guthrie was as bad as Maxwell.
There is also a lot of people on here screaming for Trump to knock heads together and start arresting people.
It’s full steam ahead for everyone lately.
I don’t see my name…
All distractions from MAGA. I do not care about it one whit.
What about the fraud in DEM run states?
Old news I suppose.
I don’t know the other guy (Khanna), but Massie reminds me too much of Rand Paul. Both are outrageous so much that when they do say something that should be taken serious, it’s drowned out by all the other baggage. They remind me of the other right wing ankle biters who stop all forward momentum by starting so many fights with the right wing. As a conservative, I can’t take any of them seriously.
Elvis Presley’s and Marilyn Monroe’s names are in these documents. So now it appears that Epstein was in contact with the hunk of burning love and the blonde bombshell through seances?
“while other individuals are mentioned only in a portion of a document (including press reporting) that on its face is unrelated to the Epstein and Maxwell matters.”
In other words, they might be included because some NY Post reporter had a deadline to meet and whipped out an article about conspiracy theories.
The deaths of Esptein, Monroe, and Presley have all been subject to scrutiny.
This would also explain why Janis Joplin name appears.
Thanks! I was imagining they have tapes of Epstein talking with someone or other about how sexy Marilyn was, meaning her name would be in a transcript.
Your take seems more likely.
Janis Joplin…..
Maybe those who advocated for, supported, or performed child sexual abuse via “transitioning” measures, medications, surgeries, etc. ought to be pursued and exposed with equal vigor rather than waiting 20 years as in the Epstein abuse.
“Mob panic.”
It is remarkable how the Official Position has changed in the last decade.
In 2016, believing a group of elitists were involved in a global CSA ring (Pizza Gate, more accurately known as the Podesta Files) led to people being labelled and ridiculed as a right-wing conspiracy theorist.
In 2026 not only is idea that a group of elitists are involved in global CSA ring (Epstein Files) accepted as fact, but refusing to support a witch hunt leads to accusations of being complicit in a coverup.
The truth lies in the middle of these two extremes, but because of how those extremes have framed the public discourse it now lies forever inaccessible.
The only people who benefit from a panic are those who keep their emotions under control and are able to maintain the ability to rationally respond to events.
And with that in mind, perhaps we should consider if the much-mocked “Epstein Binder” debacle last year was not a debacle at all, but a very clever psy-op.
I encourage all to dive into the Epstein timeline. I goes back to 1974 when he was hired to teach at the Dalton School. He was involved in financial scandals in the 80s, he skated his partner went to jail. The initial Palm Beach case opened in 2005 over 20 years ago. 2020 100 million lawsuit with the Virgin Islands settled (no discovery).
Point being this mess didn’t start 10 minutes ago under the current administration, but is being used to derail and slander Trump. I recommend resisting the urge, let’s see how it plays out. As a side note, who took his place?
Thomas Massie, selfish, deluded political opportunist and RINO.
Of course, it will never be enough because people like Massie are not really interested in “transparency,” they are interested in getting attention for themselves.
My guess is that First Lady Melania Trump was used as an entry into Jeffery Epstein’s world. it is likely possible that the future President rescued the future First Lady from that underworld.
Absolutely not.
“while other individuals are mentioned only in a portion of a document (including press reporting) that on its face is unrelated to the Epstein and Maxwell matters.”
It is entirely possible Melania appears because of reporting on Trump. That reporting could be as rotten as someone on MSNBC once claiming, without evidence, that Melania met Trump through Epstein.
Several people have missed a salient point in both this release and the post here on CTH: appearing in this list means almost nothing, because the media has associated “everyone” with Epstein through innuendo, rumors, and extremely speculative reporting including outright attempts at defamation.
It is the context of their appearance, such as repeatedly visiting Little St James, extensive and long-term business or social association, etc which is important. All of that is being being overlooked and lost, with important people such as Kathryn Reummler largely escaping public scrutiny because of antics from the likes of Massie.
But Kathy didn’t escape.
Instead, she seems to be the first to suffer some actual consequence, though it’s one entirely inadequate to the body of crimes she committed as the Obammunist’s Fixer.
Bondi should come out and say the Epstein files are done and I wash my hands of everything Epstein! Done
Enjoy the flood is right.
Impatience is never virtuous; the screamers wanted blood, and they wanted it now.
Now all they have is blood mixed with mud, and the river is still rising.
There was no way to do this right in the first place. It was never intended to nab any bad guys, it’s a shit show distraction from the fact that America bent over for Israel and covertly gave Epstein back to them like they do all Israeli pdf’s that get busted in America.
Of course they couldn’t just hand him over like all the other PDFs, so they concocted this bogus body switcheroo that pushes the suicide narrative, albeit under highly suspicious and frankly unbelievable circumstances.
The files themselves say nothing and have nothing worth prosecuting in them. Kash admits it himself several times stating “the files WE have” don’t show wrongdoing, implying that there may be other files that another agency has in their possession.
We just keep getting fed one lollipop after another.
Terrific commentary, one of your best perspectives yet.
It’s getting exhausting to be cycling and tumbling every day in these manufactured PSYC-Opps. It’s getting more intense now.
Nothing is real; it’s all a distraction. A distraction from what? The looting of our treasury and country. WTF is going on?
Scorched earth! FaFO!
Interesting that Massie and Khanna’s names are on the Epstein list. Wonder why they haven’t condemned themselves.
“Totally Incoherent outrage. Mob panic.”
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
Maddie should resign from Congress immediately for his association with Epstein! Isn’t that what he has been advocating for others on the list???