Bye bye NATO.

President Trump should call “Greenland” ‘White Island’.

Denmark and the EU wouldn’t know where it is!

Fascinating that it seemed important to take a few questions but Denmark, Lars Løkke Rasmussen asked for BBC to go first.
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My gut tells me that these “Royal” realms of Denmark and UK are not friends of the USA and perhaps never were.

“Denmark, a NATO member, is apoplectic at the possibility of the U.S. taking control of Greenland and has repeatedly said that Denmark would defend Greenland if any threat materialized. However, the only way for Denmark to defend Greenland would be to rely on the U.S. military, thus the Trump administration underlines this point in the discussions of Greenland security.”

The more I reread that paragraph the more I realize that with the possible exceptions of England and Germany you could substitute pretty much any European country that has an interest in a location outside of their homeland and draw the same conclusion. All of Europe rests comfortably at night because US solders are standing watch for them.

F__k Europe

The UK, France, Germany, Italy and etc. were forced to give up their colonies at the conclusion of WWII. In other words, regardless of whether they were on the winning side, or the loosing side, their colonies had to go. One wonders what makes Denmark so special. Obviously, I am exposing my ignorance here. Does Greenland have an autonomous relationship with Denmark, much like Canada and Australia do with the UK, or is Greenland micromanaged by Denmark, like a colony?

The fact remains that both Greenland and Iceland have been critical North Atlantic strategic locations since the introduction of the submarine and later, the introduction of the ICBM. Whomever “owns” them must be prepared to defend them and neither Greenland’s native inhabitants, nor Denmark are up to the task. In fact, Denmark isn’t even capable of defending itself which underscores the insanity of the EU’s constant poking the proverbial stick at the Russian bear.

Mismanaging your country and your economy (or a bloc of countries via the EU) is no excuse to start a world war every few decades and if this “strategy” continues, NATO needs to be disbanded so that the US is not sucked into this delusional European mindset.

Ah Europe, forgetting yet again, who holds the umbrella, protecting them from the downpour of their own stupidity. In this case, Pappa Trump has decided to wield the Clue Bat, eviscerating said cover, to the empty chagrin of the spoiled children of the Marshall Plan. And now they have zero clue of what to do next, other than whining press conferences and Call of Duty level posturing.

Dear Denmark, sit down and shut up. You wouldn’t last a day against the twin paper tigers of Russia and China. Be happy that you have strategic value to the most powerful nation on Earth. Stop working against our interests, and we might stop working against yours.

Signed, the average American.

Uppity parasites.

Trump is NOT working with Putin. Trump is working to protect Americans. If you know anything about the “Status of Forces Agreement” that America has with our so called European allies you would know that they are basically agreements that give everything to the host country and America gets nothing. We build it, work it and pay for it at exorbitant rates. I lived it for nine years. The problem is America does not have much control of it.

The European politicians are losing their minds because they need to money from America to enable them to continue their socialist and monarchist social experiments.

This is a case of the tail demanding to keep wagging the dog.

The other thing you should understand is that Trump is a negotiator. Read his book! You people need to get some education outside whatever news media you follow.

The entire island has a population the size of State College, PA. You can guess how important it is to the revenues of Denmark.

So they don’t want our ounce of prevention but will eagerly call upon our pound of cure. How little life means to those in power, exception President Trump, that they’d prefer to keep a land and gamble life away.

Bit of US – Greenland history

Washington, D.C., October 15, 2025 – The 1968 crash of a nuclear-armed B-52 bomber near the U.S. Air Force Base in Thule, Greenland, that scattered radioactive plutonium across miles of icefields created an environmental catastrophe that demanded a quick response and a political crisis for the Danish government that exposed contradictions in its no-nuclear policy. Declassified documents published today in the second part of the National Security Archive’s publication on the Thule episode describe the frantic effort to clean up and contain the dangerous debris and the negotiation of a secret agreement between the two countries that confirmed Denmark’s no-nuclear approach but preserved the U.S. ability to resume nuclear-armed overflights in a national security emergency.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2025-10-15/united-states-and-greenland-episodes-nuclear-history-1957

Of course the President is willing to work with Denmark. But let’s face it, in the grand scheme of things, Denmark is like the greeter at Walmart. We’ll listen to him for a minute or two, but we’ll also walk away, and go shopping.

Mertz has announced he is sending troops to Greenland.

The US has had troops in Greenland since Germany started the last two world wars for the purpose of keeping Germany from invading Greenland.

These people are so stupid it is unbelievable.

Pull out of NATO. Let them eat their yellow snow.

I found this at ZeroHedge: Some history on Greenland

Trump is right about Greenland. The United States defended the island during World War II, and it was forcibly annexed by the Kingdom of Denmark in 1951 without UN approval and without the consent of the island’s population. Today, Greenlanders would likely agree to a compact of free association with the United States, which would give them greater autonomy and independence from Denmark.

President Trump has expressed interest in Greenland for national security reasons, as Russia and China are increasingly sending naval vessels through Arctic waters north of Alaska. Positioned between North America and Europe, Greenland controls emerging Arctic sea lanes that are becoming more accessible as ice retreats.

The United States operates Pituffik Space Base, formerly Thule Air Base, on the island, which plays a critical role in missile warning and space surveillance. In 2019, Walter Berbrick of the Naval War College stated that whoever controls Greenland will control the Arctic, calling it the most important strategic location in the region and possibly the world.

Greenland is also rich in natural gas, oil, and minerals used in advanced technology and military applications, resources that sit at the center of the U.S.-China trade war. The United States has classified 50 minerals as critical to national security, and Greenland holds known reserves of 43 of them, including rare earth elements essential for modern weapons systems and advanced technologies.

Trump has repeatedly emphasized that the United States must secure Greenland to prevent Russia or China from gaining influence there. China currently dominates global rare earth processing, making access to alternative sources strategically urgent. These materials are indispensable for defense systems, electronics, and electric vehicles, and the ongoing retreat of Arctic ice is making large-scale extraction increasingly feasible.

The House China Committee asked the Secretaries of Defense and State to evaluate Chinese dual-purpose research and surveillance activities at research stations in Iceland and Norway’s Svalbard, demonstrating concerns about Chinese Arctic presence. Russia and China have both increased Arctic activity.

Trump administration officials are expected to meet privately with Danish officials on Wednesday to discuss Greenland, following statements from Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirming President Trump’s interest in acquiring the territory. The White House has said it is considering a range of options, including military force, though Rubio has attempted to downplay that possibility.

Senator Tim Kaine said Democrats and Republicans would unite to block any U.S. military action against Greenland, stressing that Denmark is a NATO ally and should not be treated as an adversary. Trump has also raised doubts about NATO’s reliability, questioning whether the alliance would defend the United States if needed and suggesting that withdrawing could save money.

European diplomats told CBS News that Trump’s rhetoric has further strained relations with European allies, some of whom now question the durability of America’s commitment to NATO. One diplomat described the Greenland issue as a potential breaking point, particularly after Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen warned that a U.S. military seizure of Greenland would effectively end NATO. Under Article 5 of the alliance, an armed attack on Denmark would obligate all members to respond.

It seems extremely unlikely that President Trump would invade and capture Greenland. However, this entire line of reasoning by Europeans is preposterous. The United States represents about 80 percent of NATO’s firepower. The reason NATO depends on the U.S. is that the alliance is incapable of defending itself from Russia. NATO is certainly in no position to launch a war against the United States to defend Greenland.

It is almost as if, when doing firepower calculations, Europeans assume the U.S. would provide troops to NATO to help them fight the U.S. President Trump would never do that. Such a foolish course of action would, in addition to costing countless European lives, distract resources from Ukraine and likely result in the U.S. withdrawing not only from NATO but also from defending Ukraine, something Europe cannot do on its own.

Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry, appointed by President Trump as special envoy to Greenland, criticized Denmark’s postwar annexation of the island nation.

The United States defended Greenland during World War II while Denmark was under Nazi occupation and unable to do so. On April 9, 1940, Germany invaded and occupied Denmark. One year later, on April 9, 1941, Danish Ambassador Henrik Kauffmann, acting independently because Denmark was under Nazi control, signed an agreement with the United States authorizing the U.S. to defend Greenland.

From 1941 to 1945, the United States established an extensive military presence on the island. This included facilities for air and sea traffic, radio beacons and stations, weather stations, ports and depots, artillery posts, and search-and-rescue stations. The U.S. Coast Guard also provided civilian resupply along both coasts. The strategic purpose of this presence was to prevent German use of Greenland, protect critical North Atlantic shipping routes, maintain weather stations essential for Atlantic operations, and preserve Greenland as an air transit route between North America and Europe. The legal basis for U.S. involvement rested on the Monroe Doctrine, which was invoked to prevent a European power, in this case Nazi Germany, from controlling territory in the Western Hemisphere.

When Denmark was liberated from Nazi occupation in 1945, it immediately reasserted control over Greenland. The Greenland Administration surrendered its wartime emergency self-governing powers and returned authority to Copenhagen. The 1941 Kauffmann–U.S. agreement stated that it would remain in force “until agreement has been reached that current threats to the peace and security of the American continent have ended.”

Denmark later argued that those threats ended with World War II in 1945, while the U.S. position implied that threats continued into the Cold War with the Soviet Union. As a result, the U.S. military remained in Greenland, and by 1948 Denmark abandoned efforts to force a complete U.S. withdrawal. In 1951, the United States and Denmark signed a defense agreement formalizing the continued U.S. military presence, which continues today.

In 1953, Denmark removed Greenland from the United Nations list of non-self-governing territories by declaring it an integral part of the Kingdom of Denmark and granting Greenland representation in the Danish parliament.

Criticism of Denmark’s postwar actions centers on the lack of a referendum. Denmark integrated Greenland into the kingdom in 1953 without a vote by Greenlanders, despite United Nations Resolution 850 (IX), which emphasized that integration with a colonial power should be validated through an expression of the will of the people. After declaring Greenland fully integrated, Denmark removed it from the UN decolonization list.

Denmark’s ambassador to the United States countered that Greenland has been part of the Kingdom of Denmark for centuries and noted that all five parties in Greenland’s parliament oppose becoming part of the United States. The Danish ambassador is incorrect, however, and repeats the same error Denmark made when it annexed Greenland after World War II: he never asked Greenlanders what they want. According to Greenland’s prime minister and party leaders, they want to remain Greenlanders, not Americans or Danes.

A poll released by Patriot Polling found that 57.3 percent of surveyed respondents in Greenland support joining the United States, while 37.4 percent oppose the idea and 5.3 percent remain undecided. The survey questioned 416 people and was conducted during a visit by Donald Trump Jr.. The results of the poll are questionable because of the small sample size.
However, other research has found that Greenlanders desire greater autonomy and independence from Denmark but overwhelmingly reject becoming part of the United States.

Some are open to a Compact of Free Association with Washington for economic and defense benefits, a model similar to arrangements used by Pacific island nations. Rasmus Leander Nielsen of the University of Greenland has said that Greenlanders have discussed since the 1980s the idea of creating a compact of free association with Denmark after independence, and that some have suggested a similar arrangement with the United States instead.

The winning Democrats party in the March 2025 election stated that a free association model with another country could be suitable for a sovereign Greenland, citing Denmark and the United States as the only two realistic options. Pele Broberg, leader of runner-up Naleraq party, suggested that Greenland could gain free association status similar to Micronesia or Palau’s association with the United States to deal with the lack of military protection from Denmark after independence.

The 2023 draft constitution made room for a potential new relationship between an independent Greenland and Denmark through free association, under which Greenland could request support in areas such as defense, health, monetary matters, and embassies. This arrangement could instead be with the United States, which would provide Greenland with even greater autonomy than Denmark would.

She sounds like Mars Attacks in the clip. Ak kak ak ak kak whak Ak kak Play a little Slim Whitman!

at every opportunity we need to remind that Denmark sterilized Intuits as young as 12 yrs old unit 191, in order to reduce their population. Barbaric.

Trump won’t get to the 2/3 vote in the Senate required to exit NATO, but how he fulfills our “obligations” to NATO is entirely at his discretion.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-nato-exit-us-army-europe-2044325

If these limp Eurocrats were to be apprised of our slow (very slow) walk of Article 5, this would be a very different discussion.
Greenland would be begging us to purchase it. And Denmark would heave a sigh of relief.

The arrogance of “required” defense possibly resulting in death, but denial of authority is disgusting…

Denmark should take the money and run

If Greenland is critical to our security from a missile attack by Russia, and Denmark will not let us use it to defend ourselves, the remaining option is to improve our relationship with Russia.

You and what army Denmark? Please…sit down and stop embarrassing yourself. Give us Greenland or else we will take Greenland. Period.

They know they have already lost the land. Trump wants it, he will get it.

Getting close to the time President Trump will dump NATO.

Is it true that a northern drug hub has been discovered and dismantled in Greenland that uncovered officials in the
Greenland Security force as well as officials in the Danish government who are on their way to making the shift to cartel involvement in the governments of Denmark and Greenland with economic support for both countries based on massive drug and cash transfer through the hub on Greenland? The US invaded the whole system similar to the events in Venezuela only no leaders have been arrested by name.

My guess is that Trump wants to put Greenland into the sovereign wealth fund and pay off Denmark that way

Trump wants the USA to own Greenland so the globalist can’t flood it with Migrants and then have it collapse into the hands of advisories.

At 10 years old, an Aunt gave me a subscription to National Geographic.

One of the first issues I received included a detailed fold-out map of The World.

In looking at it, I wondered why Greenland was part of Denmark.

I thought, “wouldn’t it be great if Greenland was part of the USA?”

I wonder if Our President thought the same way, when he was a boy.

Having a cig after they just got screwed.

https://x.com/thelastrefuge2/status/2011886322534019499?s=61

Conquering them is harsh EU speak, bringing them into the fold is better. What might Greenlanders think?

It was a pleasure to listen to Vivian Motzfeldt, Greenlands’ Foreign Minister speak in Kalaallisut. As an Iñupiat speaker this related language of distant cousins is intelligible. It is important to understand the position of local people of the land in question.

Greenland is a self governing autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark. With its’ own Prime Minister and Inatsisartut or
Parliment. Greenlanders are Danish citizens who also vote in Danish mainland elections with 2 seats in the Folketing (Parliment).

The Greenlanders seek full independence, until they achieve a sufficient economic base, they choose to remain self governing citizens within Denmark. They are not willing to be annexed by Washington.

They share familiar experiences with Alaska Natives from the manner Danes there and outside Americans here colonized their lands and cultures.

The forced abandonment of language, including using shame and physical beatings at school. The mass rape of both girls and boys by teachers and administrators at parochial and government boarding schools. The bottom line is outsiders moved in with an attitude of superiority, authority without wisdom or competence, and targeted our shared cultures.

Despite this Greenlanders are loyal Danish citizens as we are loyal American citizens in Alaska. It is non sensical for Washington to annex Greenland as a colony, contrary to the will of the people. Denmark doesn’t “own” Greenland to sell it. And Greenlanders are not interested in selling their lands to anyone.

The US already has a treaty for military bases. There were up to 17 bases, with one operating now, Pituffik Space Base (Thule). Any strategic US defense needs could be accommodated with leased bases wherever needed. With the current treaty or with an amended treaty when Greenland achieves its’ full independence.

In customary US military fashion, the 16 abandoned bases were left as toxic trash heaps. There are many of these sites in Alaska also. The attitude was that just Natives live here, screw them. The worst is Camp Century for project Iceworm. They left 47,000 gallons of nuclear waste with a bulk radioactivity of 1.2 billion Becquerels poured into unlined sumps, tons of Polychlorinated Biphenyls, which never degrade, 53,000 gallons of diesel and 6.3 million gallons of untreated sewage. The US refuses to address this liability.

Russia and China are not in the business of adding colonies. The Arctic sea lanes are kept open by a fleet of Russian nuclear ice breakers year around. For their maritime commerce. If we escalate our war against them they will simply interdict supply transport for our garrison on Greenland or take it out with Oreshniks.

The only logical reason Trump is obsessed with annexing Greenland is to exploit minerals. For the benefit of his donors. The massive rare earths deposit within Kuannersuit, that is feasible to mine is already under licensed contract to Energy Transition Minerals. Due to the ban of exploitation of ore with more than 100 ppm uranium it cannot be mined.

“European troops” arrive in Greenland.

• 13 German soldiers
• 15 French soldiers
• They will be on the ground for four days

Yeah, that’s a real show of force all right. I’m sure the Russians and Chinese are quaking in their boots <chuckle, chuckle>

What an absolute joke.